How to Keep Your Team Focused | Discover Powerful Tactics

Alright everybody, welcome to another business Q&A while we play League of Legends, helping answer some questions for entrepreneurs. We missed yesterday, I was dealing with— I had a meeting so I had to deal with that. And today we've had some fire alarm issues, so we'll see if that continues or not. Hopefully not. But I am back with my usual co-host Rishi Cupp TV. Welcome aboard.

Thank you, Evan. So appreciative to be here today. Cup of love.

I love it. Okay, ready? I also have J-Rise in the house. He's gonna be, uh, I think setting up a game. He wants to try something new. He's trying an experiment with a new champion, so that'll be, that'll be interesting.

Oh nice.

Oh, the fire alarm is back. So they are testing. We'll see. We'll see how long it lasts. They are testing fire alarm drills at my place. Alex has been gracious enough to come in and mute it when it comes in. What is in the cup today, Rishi? You said cup of love.

It's always a cup of love, Evan. And yeah, that's it. That's my cup today. Cup of love.

I love it. Well, I've got my cup of vitamin water that Alex says inspires me daily. So I'm excited to drink that down. All right. We got some people in the live chat. Jen So Much. She wants to know what that food channel is. From the gratitude journal. So you'll have to share that, Rishi. People are— Jen wants to know. Oh, you already did. You put it in the chat. Okay, awesome.

Yeah.

Well, let's get to some questions. What do we have up first while we wait for a game to get set up?

First, sir, everybody wants to know if you're feeling okay. We're hearing in your voice a little bit of sickness, maybe.

I'm okay. I had a rough night 2 nights ago, not last night, 2 nights ago. And, uh, I usually go through my morning of having lots of, uh, liquids that I am just starting. So I gotta, I gotta down my Vitamin Water. That inspires me daily.

Nice. Well, we want, we want to make sure you're doing okay.

So I love it, feeling the love, guys.

Okay, so are you ready for the first question?

Yep, let's do it.

All right, first question comes from Ognish, and Ognish is asking, how do you manage a team successfully? How do you keep them motivated? He has a team that's constantly losing its focus on their work. And so, yeah, he just wants to kind of get some, I guess, leadership team feedback for an unfocused team. Yeah, well, first of all, just say, you know, I know I'm not leading on any kind of level as you, Evan, but I have held leadership positions, and I know that even when you're doing a good job, it can be incredibly difficult. Difficult. So anyone who just steps out and is being an entrepreneur and wants— and you're at the place where you have a team, you know, you should definitely take some time, just in terms of our gratitude stream that we just came out of, you know, take some time to be grateful for what you're doing well and try to make sure you're paying attention to the things that you are doing well, because I think you can get caught up in what you're not doing well. Aside from that, though, I know that kind of part of the harder truth to all of this is that your team is always a reflection of you. So, you know, sometimes we don't like what it is that we see in our team, but it really does come down to a reflection of us in some way. So, the more self-aware you can become about your leadership style and maybe some of your weaknesses, you know, the better. You asked about motivating your team. I think motivation comes— I mean, just take Evan, for example. Like, we're all excited to hang out with Evan because Evan's a passionate guy, and he's on fire, and he has huge vision, and so that's inspiring. And also, I noticed, too, Evan, in your leadership, you're very clear on your values. To leave. So I think the more clear you are on your values and what it is that you're passionate about, the more it'll be easier for people to be motivated to work for you. There's so many aspects to, to this, but I guess, you know, I think without going into too many details, again, coming back to the self-awareness, Can you ask your team for feedback even? You know, what are some areas that they might feel more motivated by you, or what causes them to feel like they're losing their focus? I think getting feedback is really important when you're a leader from your team. All right, that's all I got for now.

I want to see if I can grab Alex. I'm curious to hear his thoughts. I like this question.

I'm gonna say—

Hey Alex, Alex, you want to answer a question? Okay, he's coming. So, uh, you gotta, you gotta come in tight on this one. It's just— there you go. This is Alex. Hey guys, he helps me run Toronto Dance Salsa. Uh, TDS, we have how many people on the team?

Uh, from instructors or everyone?

Well, if you look at the instructors and assistants and like people at the front, like 10?

Oh, oh, people at the front and instructors, yeah, about 10 to 12.

And then helpers, we have 52. 52 assets, I think 40 in the grinding. Okay, so 52. So we've got, we've got, this is the team that, that Alex and I have to manage. The question, Rishi, let me know if I, if I got it wrong, let me know. But the question is about, there's a guy who has a business. He's having a hard time keeping his team focused and motivated. So the question is, how do I keep my team focused and motivated? Is that right, Rishi? Did I get it right?

Yeah, exactly. His— yep.

So how do we keep our team focused and motivated?

I think two things are important. One, I think the team needs to know what your big picture is for the business. And how you're trying to make an impact. So for people, it's easier for people to stand behind something that's bigger than them, that has a bigger impact, and that they can be part of. So, you know, I would never go to any of the volunteers or helpers and be like, "Let's make more money!" kind of thing, right? I'd be like, "I want to make people's lives better, and I think you can do it too." So one aspect is for your team to know what your vision is and how they can help. And that's the second part of it. Or sorry, the second part of it is understanding why they're there and trying to make it personalized for them, the experience, right? So, you know, people work for money, people work for this, people work for that, but deep down they all look for something internal. For me, it was I wanted to find a place where I belong, and so I found that at TDS. And some helpers, they wanted to, you know, get past certain fears and certain and this and that. So being able to speak to each of your teammates, right? Employees, however you refer to them, and try to understand them, why they're there, and you know, what they're trying to get out of life. It not only builds a better relationship between you and your coworkers or your teammates, but it also makes them feel fulfilled and to be more involved in your vision.

I don't know.

It's a lot.

I like it.

Awesome.

That was good. Yes, man. Good work. All right.

Thank you.

Okay, back to work, Alex.

Come on.

Um, actually, I go a lot of what Alex said. I love it. Uh, I agree with— I agree with it all. Um, well, what would I add to that? He stole a lot of what I would say. I guess you hang around too much. Um, uh, I would say A big part of it is also recruitment, making sure you get the right people instead of trying to fix the wrong people. The biggest part of building a team is getting the right people on the bus first. So a great way to do that, to Alex's point and Rishi's point about knowing what you stand for, that can attract people. If people know why you're doing something, then it'll attract people who love the mission that you're on. If you have an unclear mission and you're just hiring a web developer, then it's just going to be around, okay, how much money can I make? And once you get into working together, you may find you have a lot of values that don't work well with each other. So Making sure that you bring the right people on is extremely important. What I would then add is everybody needs to be treated differently, and that's, that's a one of the biggest challenges of leadership is you, you want to treat everybody like you would want to be treated. And, and yes is like the golden rule, and you want to On a high level, you want to be good to people like you would want them to be good to you. But when you get into the execution of it, some people need a lot of praise. Some people need a lot of recognition. Some people need a lot of opportunities. Some people need a lot of expression and creative freedom. Some people want to work inside a box and like, I need rules, give me rules to operate. And some people hate a box. And they need creative freedom and expression. Some people have low self-confidence and they need more of that from you to say that they're doing a good job. And some people are like, don't give me compliments, tell me what I need to fix. And so the default for most people is, this is how I was treated, or this is how my parents treated me, or this is how I like to be treated. And assuming that that's the default for everybody, and it's not. And for most teams, for most entrepreneurs, for most— most first hires don't work out. If you look at companies and how many, like, who their first hire was, they're very rarely still with the company. And it's the entrepreneur's fault. Like, you hired the wrong person, you had no idea how to manage somebody and you didn't know how to treat them. And so that's not a recipe for success. And hopefully somewhere along the lines you figure some of that stuff out. So I definitely feel for you having this team that's not motivated. You know, do they like the work that they're doing? Are they feeling growth opportunities? Are they feeling listened to? Do they feel important? Do they feel like the work they're doing is challenging them? Do they feel attached to the mission? Is there a mission? All of those things are super important to think about as you build a team. And, you know, my gratitude journal just before this, in the livestream, the first thing I was grateful for was my team. So this is a timely question because you can't do it alone. And what happens to a lot of entrepreneurs is they start off alone and they say, okay, I need help, and they go in to hire somebody, and then that person doesn't work out and you spend so much time training that person and then it doesn't work out, you get so frustrated like, okay, you know, forget this, I'm not building a team, I'm just gonna go back to doing everything myself because I know that I can at least get it done. And that's not the right attitude because you need to be able to— if you want to go out and accomplish something big, you can't do it all by yourself. So I feel ya, stay strong.

Yeah, and I loved what you guys talked about on Thursday, you and Stephen Kelly, CEO of Sage. I mean, you know, you can, you can be very serious about what you do, but it's got to still have heart. And you guys were talking about how, you know, The most productive businesses, the ones that recruit the best, are the ones who have heart, you know. And I think sometimes people just forget to also pursue meaningful work, not just, you know, serious, boring, you know. So I think people want to work for a place that's fun. And, well, I know I want to work for a place that's fun, but maybe not fun is what everybody wants, but at least meaningful.

Yep.

You know, and you guys touched on that. I like that a lot.

Yeah, and Sage is in a boring industry. Like, I know, accounting, it's like the most boring thing of all time for most people. Now I get that some people love numbers and some people, you know, they're big accounting fans. That's great. But it's also a big company. You've got like 15,000 employees or something there. So you're going to have human resources people, and marketing people, and all kinds of non-accountants. Why would they ever pick to work— go work in an accounting software company? It sounds like the most boring thing in the world. But it's because the mission isn't about accounting, it's about helping entrepreneurs do big things to change the world. So it's a lot easier to get on board with that mission than just accounting. So it's a great example. I love it. It's easy to want to be involved in, in a, you know, video game company or some new, you know, technology or, you know, biotech startup or something fun and innovative. It's hard when it's accounting software. You can apply it to any industry if you're doing something meaningful. So, I love it. Thanks for sharing that example.

Well, thank you for your collabs on Thursdays with SEO or with Stephen Kelly, SEO. All right. Next question comes from— and we've started the game by the way.

Yes, sorry. We are in game. I am Timo Jungle. J-Rise is trying a new experiment of Pantheon Top, which I think he's been practicing, but we've never done it together.

Together.

So this should be fun to see what happens.

Alrighty, nice. Yep. So next question comes from Ian, and Ian says, I love music. Where do I start? Sounds like Ian is a singer-songwriter-producer, or actually I think he doesn't really quite know, but he just loves music and he wants to kind of get some guidance on where to start. So yeah, I think that's kind of the first thing that you got to start— you have to decide. I mean, you love music. What about the music do you specifically love? Do you want to be on stage? Do you want to be behind the scenes? Do you want to be writing songs for other singers? Do you want to be producing? I think that you just have to be in touch with what it is that you want. And yeah, if you don't know, look at your gifts, look at your talents and skills, and who are people that you really admire that you would aspire to, to be. But once you figure that out, you just start, you know. I mean, if you've never played music before, you just got to start and, you know, you just got to practice and practice and grow and grow. I would also just add that as you are learning your craft, whatever you decide to pursue, that I would say value the business side of music just as much as you value the learning side because Many musicians have exceedingly amazing talent, but you'll never hear from them or know about them because of what they don't know about the business side. So I would also make sure that you respect the business of music as well.

I love it. We have a series, a new series on the channel called Making It. And the first one that we did was making it as a musician. And so I would highly recommend you checking that out. There's advice from 10 different people who are famous musicians about how to make it in the music industry. And pretty much guarantee you there's something in there for you. It's a new series that we're putting on that we're testing and starting to bring it to other fields besides musicians next. I think we're doing acting next.

Love it.

But anyway, it's a new series. I'm pretty pumped up about it, but we'll see. We'll see. Not all the new series stick, so we'll see what happens. But I definitely recommend checking that out. You're fortunate that that was the first one that we put together. I think for being a musician, you need to start getting really good at your craft. You need to practice. Practice. You need to get on— you need to get as many opportunities as you can to get on stage and win over an audience. You need to start a YouTube channel. I don't know, Rishi's usually all over the YouTube channel advice, but you need to start a YouTube channel. Let your music spread. You know, it's never been easier to get a message out there. Oh, J-Rise just got a double kill. Good job, J-Rise. Nice. His team is doing well. It's never been easier to get exposure, to make it, to get people listening to your songs, but you need to do the work to get good, to practice. You need to start winning over some fans, figuring out what your style is. Maybe you don't know, maybe you still need to learn, maybe you still need to get better at singing, get better at the guitar, get better at the keyboard or whatever. Your instrument is. But that's gonna be the key for anybody who's trying to make it and build up a fan base. You start and you just keep on, keep on going, keep on improving. Just like somebody wants to start a YouTube channel, where do I start? Well, you start, you get a camera and you just start and make your first video and expect it to suck, and then start another one, and every time along the way, your goal is to win a couple fans. So, you know, with every new song that you create and every new album, you know, you put out, or every new video that you launch, or every new concert that you go out and sing, you know, you're not filling stadiums, you might just be at some bar and you're the local band, or you're playing at a street festival or something, your, your goal is to win over a couple of new fans. Just like this, like this live chat here, this stream that we're doing. When we started, there was zero activity in the, in the chat. Zero, right? Nobody was paying attention. I didn't heavily promote it, right? I wasn't— I could have, I could have built it up and said, hey, everybody on my newsletter list, go check out this new thing that we started. It wasn't heavily promoted on my side. I wanted to just start an experiment, and we've been building up audience members, right? They come back and they want to check it out and see what the next thing is. Um, so I think it's, uh, oh, I'm under attack here. I think it's super important. Uh, and now we've got, we've got a live stream. I haven't seen what's happening in the chat, but I see it kind of filling up. Jen and Rishi and Optisaurus and Damastan. The key thing is that people come back. People are coming back, maybe not every single episode, but they're coming back. And that's how you start to build your audience and a fan base. So are you good enough yet to be able to have people listen to your music and have them come back? And if you're not, then you keep practicing until you get there.

Great.

That's what I got.

I think I'll just add one little thing, but this is just beyond even music. You know, you think that so much of this has to do with your talent and abilities, and there obviously is a level of truth to that, but I love a quote that Julia Cameron says that often it's not talent but audacity that brings the artist to center stage. And so, I mean, so many people have been successful in music or any other industry not because they were the most talented, but just because they had the audacity to just start and put themselves out there. And like you said, Evan, have momentum, keep plugging away at it, and keep doing it. They found success.

So I love it. That's a good quote.

Love Julia. All right, next question. Oh, we've got a question in the live chat from OptiSource, and she asks— I was going to ask a doctor that was a partner of the founder of my business to be my mentor. I was very close to him as well. He is very high up in the community. How do I approach him? So, doctor partner and the founder of a business wanted to ask about mentorship and how do I approach him. So this is, I think, a question that's very common. Relevant to anyone who is looking for mentorship, and we have talked about that a lot on different streams. My stance, I think, on mentorship always is like to start by creating or by providing value to that, that person. You know, sometimes people approach relationship with what can I get from this relationship, and I know that's probably— that may not be Optisource, who's— that may not be her approach, but a lot of people are pursuing mentoring relationships with just, "How can I get?" instead of starting with, "What can I give?" And so finding out what the potential mentor may need, a service you could provide, how you can volunteer, make their lives easier, and a great benefit that usually happens in return is that you can learn from them. In the process. So that's my kind of quick feedback about mentoring is add value to them, and that usually creates opportunity.

Awesome. Here's the interesting thing about mentorship. Everybody wants to— there's a lot of value in giving back. People like to give back. People like to feel appreciated. People like to feel feel like they can mentor and coach and train the next generation. The challenge with it is that most people are either not ready for the feedback or they just don't work hard enough to actually take the advice. And that sucks as a mentor. You know, even thinking about these, how many people who are listening and asking questions, how many people actually take action on the advice? That we give. Hopefully it's a good amount, but the sad truth is it may not be that much. The hope though is that by sharing it, other people who have the same problem, same questions, do realize that, you know, they want to make a change and they get inspired and moved by it. I can't tell you how many people— and I used this example before— I think it was on the livestream, maybe not, maybe it was a video. You know, I went to an event where I was talking about mentorship and people came up to me afterwards and said, hey, can you be my mentor? Which you never want to do, which we've talked about before as well, because mentorship implies a relationship. It's like walking up to somebody and saying, will you marry me? You know, will you be my business partner? Like, that's not gonna happen. That's not how it works. So like you'd be creeped out if somebody said, "Will you marry me?" So that's, you know, just keep that in mind. But most people don't follow up. Most people don't do the work. And that sucks. Like that, as a mentor, makes me feel like I've wasted my time. And time is the most important, most precious thing that we have. So don't make me feel like I wasted my time. So that's the— and the frustrating part is, you know, you may be the person who won't waste their time. You will follow up, you will do the work, you really appreciate it, but you're lumped in with everybody else. Just like the business plan for a venture capitalist, you're lumped in with everybody else. And so it's up to you to stand out. It's up to you to be the one person that I can see that, you know what, I think this person is actually gonna follow through. Because if I get that impression, then I'm happy to meet with you and learn about what your problems are and how I can contribute. So that's your first step. Then in terms of reaching out, if you already have some kind of personal connection, if he knows your name, that already puts you ahead of most people. Your next step is just to ask for a coffee. Don't go in and ask, will you be my mentor? Because again, it implies too big of a relationship. But go in and say, I would, I mean, I really appreciate your wisdom, and I was wondering if I could quickly pick your brain for 20 minutes over a cup of coffee. Or lunch or whatever, you know, this guy likes to do. And doing that, I would come in with a clear goal. Like, what's the one question that you want this guy to answer that can help you, that could make the difference in your life, in your business? What's the one thing that you would just love to get an answer to? And focus in on that. And anything else you get on top of it is bonus and great. He'll see your energy, your enthusiasm. That's awesome. But then the next step, if you really want to get a mentorship relationship going, is you have to go out and do work. So whatever he told you to do, you say you're going to do it, actually go do it. Don't come back to him again until you've done it. Because the last thing that a mentor wants to see is having to solve the same problem again. Right? You asked me this question, I gave you an answer, I told you what to do, you didn't go out and do it, so why are you back again?

Yeah.

Right?

Why do you— can I ask a question? Because why— because that's happened to me where I tell someone, they don't do it, but they want to keep coming back for more. Like, what's that all about?

People just want the emotional support. People have an environment that sucks. People aren't willing to push themselves hard enough. You know, like, the people have— why do people stay in, you know, abusive relationships? Like, people's environment just sucks. You might be the one positive thing, the one positive conversation that they've had, and they love it, and then they go back to their regular life where people aren't supporting them. And then, you know, the next I mean, I'm sure you've experienced it where you have an idea, you're all motivated and confident, and then the next day you wake up and it's gone. You don't have the courage anymore and you doubt yourself and say, "Oh, I can't do that. Who was I to have that crazy goal?" That's what happens. You meet somebody who's done a lot more than you and they're on a higher trajectory and a greater path and they think a different way and they have less limiting mindsets and beliefs. And so you get to hang around them a little bit, and a little bit of that rubs off on you, and you get a little bit more of that audacity. And then you fall back, you look at the rest of your life, and you wake up the next day, you fall back into it, and the audacity is gone. So that's why I think people's environments just suck. But that's the challenge. Like, if you want to be stretched and you want to grow, then you have to push yourself. You have to go beyond what's comfortable for you and do the painful thing. Take the advice and take some action on it, because if you don't, then you can't go back and you're disrespecting your mentor. Like, they're not a mentor for you if you're not following through and actually taking action and listening to them. So You know, step 1 is just go out and show your passion and enthusiasm and be remembered. Now here, if he already knows you, that's easy. You don't have to make that first impression. Step 2 is then just ask for coffee. Have a set, set of criteria that you're looking for of a problem that you want to solve. Ask for coffee, make it super low risk. Don't say you want him to mentor you, just a small initial engagement, and then take action on the thing that he said to do. And then you can go back. Like, if I give— it's the effort. Like, if I give advice to somebody and they don't take it and they come back and ask another question, I don't want to answer it. I don't want to spend time. Like, I feel like I'm wasting I'm not going to waste my time. If they're not able to execute it, like they tried or it didn't work quite well, or, you know, the most important part is not the result. It's not that you went out and achieved it. It's that you tried. If you came back and said, I really tried, I tried hard. You said post a video every day. I posted 12 videos over 12 days and I still feel like I'm not making it. Then come back. Let's talk about it because you're putting in the work. Most people just don't put in the work. So that's what you need to do to show your mentor, win them over, and then that could become a bigger relationship.

Wow, I heard some new gold come out of that answer today, Evan.

All right.

I pulled some good information out of you.

Yeah, new gold. I aim to provide new gold. I'll change my Twitter bio.

Interesting. Cool. All right, well, I know there's a little bit of a delay on my end, but where are you at with the game? You look like you're 21 and— 21, is that what it says?

21? Well, we're 22 to 12, so our team is crushing. I've done almost nothing though. Uh, my team is carrying me hard. I have 0 kills, 0 deaths, and 1 assist. So, okay. Yeah, but we're winning, so it's good.

It's a good thing. All right, next question is coming from Woodrow.

Woodrow.

And yeah, Woodrow. And he, uh, He basically invented a board game, and he says, "The board game will change the world. It's very unique and easy to learn, but it takes a lifetime to master it. I've had a complete patent search, domestic and international. My research team's final result is it's complete and ready for fabrication. I have a prototype, and it can be played from ages 8 to 88. At my age, I'm looking for a quick buyout." "If I need to sign a disclosure form, no problem. I have transparent blueprints and all measurements." All right, Woodrow, I'm not sure specifically what your question is, but sounds like it's a really cool idea, a board game. Could play from age 8 to 88. I'd love to hear more about the board game, how it works. But yeah, looks like he basically did everything on his end. He's ready to to put it out there and wants a quick buyout. Do you have any quick tips for, for someone in that position, Evan?

Yeah, I do. Wait, do you have— are you, are you not going? Are you just deferring to me on this one?

Well, I'm not sure what the question is, and I'm wondering, is he trying to actually— is he proposing to you? I'm trying to figure out, is he proposing you as a potential buyer? But I don't know because I can't really see what the specific question is. Okay, cool.

Well, my take on it is—

I think it's a great idea.

Yeah, I mean, I think he's trying to— he's a guy, 80 years old, trying to sell the game. He's worked hard on this concept and wants somebody to now capitalize on it, market it for him, buy him out. He doesn't want to do the work. Anymore. He built it and just wants somebody to run with it. At least that's my understanding of the question.

I'm just not sure if he's 80 years old, but he might be.

Oh, I thought he said he was 80 years old.

Yeah, I think it's only because he said the game is— you can play it from age 8 to 88.

But what— he said something at my age.

He did say at my age, so I'm assuming he's old. I just don't know how old.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. I thought he was 80. Okay, well, whatever. Listen, it doesn't matter anyway. Like, it's not gonna happen. Nobody wants to buy a concept of a board game. That's the harsh truth. You need to know, like, you need to go out and you need to get traction. It's not enough. Yeah, nobody wants to go out and buy a concept of a board game. You need to, you need to get some traction. You need to you need to get momentum, you need to build it, whether you're just doing it as a Kickstarter campaign to build some marketing up or whatever it is. Nobody's going to say, "Here Woodrow, is this check. Thank you for making this amazing board game. I'm going to take it over and now sell it." Like that is not a fantastic strategy. And you don't want to hear the answer. Like, you got to do the work to market it or find somebody who can partner with you on it looking for an opportunity. But nobody's gonna want to just buy a concept board game. Like, you know, it's never say never. There might be some person in the world, but it's a super— like, if that's what you're basing your entire strategy on, it's super risky. And so I'd be looking at, do I want to put in the work to build this game out or not? And that's a— that's a— it's a sucky position to be in. And it happens with a lot of people, not, not just board game people, but people in general who have ideas and realize they don't have— they don't have the capabilities to to monetize the idea, and then they get frustrated. It's building out the team to make sure that you can, like, take it as far as you can and build the team to help you get there further. But it's, it's unlikely that a big company is going to want to just buy that up, especially with a, like, a board game where there's no, there's no problem there's no immediate problem that like a company has to solve through this new patented idea that you have.

Right.

So it's, it's the crappy answer of more work.

Mm-hmm. And just start executing because he has all this research and, and theory about how it's going to do, but you, at the end of the day, like You do have to just go out and see how it does.

So, well, and there's still work to, to, like, I don't know, he's built a prototype, but you've got to actually go and test it and see if people want to buy it. And you could do it through a Kickstarter campaign where, um, where, you know, you're trying it out and you're seeing, do people like it? Are people using it? Do people want to preorder it? Do people want to buy it? There's a lot you can do, but you have to be willing to do the work. Like, it sounds like he doesn't want to do the work, he just wants to sell it.

Gotcha.

So until you get your mindset around doing the work or partnering up with somebody who wants to take an opportunity and do the work, it's not gonna— it's not gonna be—

it's not gonna be for you.

Get into some fights. I just got 2 kills, so I'm happy about that. I've contributed, and, uh, we're on our way to a victory so far. Unless we do a big throw here, we're on our way to winning.

Nice. Trainer 6 is not with you guys today, right?

Trainer 6 is not with us, uh, no, just me and J-Rise. J is doing his Pantheon experiment. Let's see how he's doing. Pantheon 4 kills and 2 deaths. So Pantheon Experiment is going decently so far.

Yeah. Cool. All right. Next question is from Jarrett and Jarrett asks, I'm actually trying to break a cycle from a 9 to 5 job to an entrepreneur lifestyle. Love it. And yeah, he's an artist. But that's kind of it. I guess he wants some feedback about how to break out of that 9-to-5 job mentality into the entrepreneur lifestyle. So I think my— the question that came to my mind is kind of more deeper about, you know, your why, just making sure that you're When you said entrepreneur lifestyle, I think of people who think that it's super cool to be an entrepreneur, which it is. But like, obviously entrepreneurship really at its heart is coming out of a place of having like a passion to bring change or solve a problem or add value in a specific way. So just making sure that you are not wanting to pursue entrepreneurship just because It's a different lifestyle, but what is the value that you want to add through your business? Once, once you've kind of settled that, I think the cool thing about entrepreneurship is that you can create it to be what you want it to be, even your, you know, your schedule and the way you think about Everything is up to you. So you're already an artist, which I'm assuming means you already have that ability to kind of think outside of conventional boxes. Um, but yeah, and then I just say hang around with other entrepreneurs, see how they do it. Watch Evan's channel, so much wisdom there. Um, Yeah.

Oh, I think we get into a fight. We're gonna get into a fight. What's happening here? For me, I love it. I love the intent. Obviously loving entrepreneurs, I feel like I want to support. What I would say is first you have to start with figure out what you're gonna do, right? Like, I agree with Rishi on why you're doing it, but figure out what's your idea. Everybody needs an idea. You know, are you gonna sell— you said he was an artist. Did he say what kind of artist?

No, he just is an artist, and I'm not sure if his entrepreneur goals will be artistic either. He just is an artist.

So what are you gonna do? What's your big idea? What's the problem you're gonna solve? Right? Start there and then find a way to start part-time. It just does not have to be something that you go all in on. I'm not— I hate giving that advice. I know some people do, and sometimes it's actually the best advice for somebody, but for me, I hate having to go all in on something and burn the boats. And I would not be the guy to say quit your job and go do this thing full-time and just take the leap. I would be the guy who says start part-time, start in the evening, start on the weekends, get your side hustle on, see if you can make this into something that can support yourself and your dreams and your goals. That's, that's where I would come from. And if you can make that happen, then you basically want to build it up to the point where you're making enough money to be able to quit your job. I think Dedicating the time to make sure that you're spending half an hour every day is going to be the hard part. A lot of people can't find the time, or maybe, maybe I'll say don't make the time. Like, you have busy lives, you've got a lot of stuff happening, it's understandable, but you have to, you have to find, you have to find a way to make the time and for your business. It's important every single day. And then in terms of the mindset that he was asking about, it's also now creating that environment that helps support you on your new path. So if, you know, being around entrepreneurs helps, or watching— for me, it's the videos. Watching the videos help every day put me in the right mindset. That helps me think bigger on accomplishing what my goals are, and doing that consistently helps me, helps me continue to win. And so figuring out what that is for you can make a really, really big difference. All right, and we win!

And you win, nice!

Yeah, I killed the base by myself. That was fun. I did something. I contributed. So let's see, final stats. I got an S. I love it. I, I finished 3 kills, no deaths, and 4 assists. J-Rise was 4 kills, 3 deaths, 4 assists. So it ended up working out pretty clean. Pretty easy win. Pretty exciting. We're on a streak.

We are on a streak. I was going to say, I hope we're on our streak.

We'll see how JRise like the new experiment with the new champion. I'll ask them after how that went, see if it continues.

Cool.

Well, final message, Rishi, for the audience?

Final message. Yeah, just keep being willing to learn. And if you want mentorship, you know, be humble and let them, you know, when they give you something, go out and do that and then show that you actually respect that mentor's time.

Yeah.

And don't ask them to be your mentor in the first conversation.

I feel like a lot of the answers came down to just work. Mm-hmm. So you want to get a mentor? Okay, we'll work on what the advice is from the mentor and show that you're putting in the work. Or if you're trying to sell an invention or a board game, the idea alone is not enough. You got to work to actually build it into a business. If you want to start a business but you're in the mindset of a 9-to-5, or Every day working, right? Half an hour every day. So I feel like work has been a consistent theme today. So, so work, work, pour your heart into it. Whatever you're doing, make something that you are gonna be proud of.

Mm-hmm.

So that's my message for the day. Thank you guys for watching. It's great to be back. Thank you, Rishi, for your awesome co-hosting as usual. Thank you, J-Rise. For playing with me, and all of you all, all y'all— can I do that? All y'all?

Yes, you can.

All y'all in the chat for, uh, for cheering us on. Continue to believe, or whatever your one word is, and we'll see you soon.