The BIGGEST Mistake You're Making in Finding Joy | Dr. Wayne Dyer's Powerful Lesson

What if joy was not something you had to search for, but something you carried into every part of your life? Dr. Wayne Dyer teaches us that fulfillment is not about waiting for outside changes. It begins with the way you choose to see each moment. When you shift your perspective, even the most ordinary tasks become filled with meaning. In this video, you will discover how to live each day with purpose, peace, and joy. And a special thanks to Hay House for partnering with us to release this video exclusively here on my YouTube channel. If you've been here before, drop a hashtag #believe in the comments below so I can feature you see you here in a future video. And if you're new, welcome to Believe Nation, the only channel that helps you believe in yourself daily, one video at a time.

Dr. Dyer is joining us in Maui after Austin. So how are you doing? How was Austin?

Oh, Austin was great.

It was a wonderful— so was San Jose. They were terrific. But, um, you know, that's a 6-hour time difference between, uh, where I am now and where I was then, so I was up at 2 o'clock this morning. My body said, it's not 2 o'clock, it's 8 o'clock, get up.

And I did. And I went for a swim and, you know, it's just, it's great to be back.

It's great to be back on Maui where I do my writing. I was home at my home in Florida for a period of time as well.

So it's been another travel time, but I'm back.

Now you're back.

Around the world.

Ready to go.

Exactly, right.

So what did you like best about Austin? Did you get out and see anything?

The thing I like about Austin is like it's an island in the middle of Texas. That's true.

I've been there.

I spent a little time there, so I agree 100%.

It's the only place in Texas that's not like Texas, and it's a very, very nice place. Very, very high consciousness people. It was a wonderful event. There was several thousand people there. I've been to Austin many, many times.

There was a period of time when I spoke there every year for about 7 years in a row. We had people there, of course, from all over the country and all over the world. it was a wonderful time.

Well, it's good to have you back live on the show. The phone lines are filling up. So you're going to rest up a little bit, then you're going to Vancouver. That's the next one, April 20th and 21st, and then Atlanta.

No, then Denver.

Oh, Denver.

I have a writer's workshop. I think it's just very close to sold out. I'm going to do a 2-day event called Writing from Your Soul, Writing from Your Heart, Your Spirit. Those who want to learn about writing, I would, uh, or how I do it anyway.

But that's, as I said, that's getting very, very close to the sellout point.

Yeah, people should check that out.

Yeah, April 27th, I think, and 28th in Denver. And then, uh, and then we're going to, uh, Atlanta, and then, and then a few in Canada in June, and then off to, uh, Australia in August.

Busy around the world these days.

It is. Yeah, very, very busy.

Very intriguing thing happened though while I was gone. It was, um, we have a new pope now. I don't know if we talked about this on the last show.

I don't know if it has been that—

no, because you weren't here last week, so you didn't have a chance to talk about that.

Yeah, I just found it very fascinating that the, uh, you know, he was not on the list. The person who they picked, the cardinal from Buenos Aires, was not even on anybody's list.

They had put out who they thought the most likely people were to be selected by the entire College of Cardinals, and this man's name wasn't even on there.

But it turns out he's probably the holiest of all of those cardinals, the one who really lives, uh, you know, Christ consciousness, serves the poor.

And he turned down living in a palace in, uh, when he became Cardinal of Buenos Aires, and lived in his flat and took the train to work and back every day, and the buses and not into all of the, uh, you know, the formalized part of, uh, of so much of religion, but just living, uh, as Jesus, uh, instructed us to live through his own example.

And then he took the name Francis.

Now this is— I always find— I think, you know, I thought— you know that I just believe that everything in the universe is happening because there's an organizing intelligence supporting it all.

And, um, this is the first time a pope has resigned since the time of Christopher Columbus.

Okay, so I mean, that goes back 600 years. Yes, I mean, for him to just resign— and popes just don't do that. They stayed in, and they were considered to be the, you know, the closest connection to God for amongst all the Catholic religion. And the Catholic religion represents about 1.2 billion people on the planet, like one out of every 5 or 6 people.

So this—

the Holy Father is a very revered being on Earth.

And for him to resign was just unheard of.

And then for this new Pope to come in and to take the name Francis, I honestly, I just feel like I'm a part of all of this.

You know, St.

Francis has been such a huge force in my life.

And I was not raised Catholic in any way, although I taught at a Catholic university and I worked at a Catholic high school for 4 years as well.

But Francesco, I've been to Assisi on many occasions. I've written a book there.

Called The Spiritual Solution to Every Problem. I had an incredible miracle take place there. I had a healing, saw St.

Francis when I had my right knee was just bone on bone and was supposed to be replaced about 10 years ago.

And I was carrying a man. I talk—

this is in the movie The Shift.

And I was carrying a man on my back who had muscular dystrophy. And I was collapsing because I didn't have my brace on that day. And I just saw a vision of St. Francis putting his two hands out. And I carried John all the way up to the third floor, John Graybill III, and my wife was waiting at the top and at this castle that we were at in San Damiano. And there I was running with this man on my back and everybody else was huffing and puffing.

And my wife said, you don't even have your brace on, what are you doing?

And I said, it's just been a miracle. And that was 13 years ago and I've had no problem with that knee ever since that moment. And I went out to give thanks, and the COVID of Spiritual Solution to Every Problem is a picture of me giving thanks to whatever forces were that allowed that healing to take place. And when we did Experiencing the Miraculous last year, we went back to Assisi, and if you watch the 4 videos from that, the lecture that I gave in Assisi, uh, it felt as if Saint Francis entered my body at the very end of that.

I lost it completely. I just stood there sobbing and the whole audience stood up and it was just one of those amazing, amazing moments. I wrote about this in I Can See Clearly Now, the new book that will be out next year. The look at the forces that take place in our life to create the tapestry that is our life and all of the invisible things that are happening that are moving the checkers around, as I always say, in our life. So Francesco has been just like this hugely important person, but he was the man who in the 13th century the Catholic Church, did not think very much of. He was told by Jesus, as legend tells us— not so much legend, I mean, there's facts to say this— that, that he was told that his mission was to clean up his church. And he was a, uh, the son of a haberdasher, a tailor in Assisi, and he gave up everything and devoted his life to healing the church. Went to Rome, walked to Rome, and offered the Pope—

I think it was Pope Innocent III, if I'm not mistaken—

said that he would walk through the fire and not be burned if the Pope would follow him as well.

Because his faith was such that—

and the Pope declined—

and Francisco was performing these miracles and just lived this life of just serving the poor, this life of poverty and caring for others.

And one of the great movies made about his life was Franco Zeffirelli's, uh, Brother Sun, Sister Moon, just one of my all-time favorite movies.

And every time you watch that movie, you almost feel as if Saint Francis is right there with you. And the music with it and so on.

I know that prayer is, uh, very, uh, important to you as well, isn't it?

Right.

It was. Well, that each line from the prayer— make me an instrument of thy peace, where there is hatred let me bring love—

and so on. Each one of these, um, became a chapter in A Spiritual Solution to Every Problem.

But the fact that, uh, you know, this was a man who was the established church in the 13th century when Francesco was traveling around the world, traveling around Europe and Asia.

Attempting to convert people to live from a place of Christ consciousness. The church really just sort of rejected him, and there's never been a pope named Francis before. And here's this man, first pope from South America, of Latin origin, first time a pope has been elected when another pope was still alive, and taking the name Francis.

I think it signifies an incredible shift for like one out of every five human beings on this planet. If we can get that, that this was a man who was selected on the second ballot to become Pope by all of the cardinals who somehow realized that this was the man who was really living from a place of Christ consciousness and not just talking about it, and wasn't into all of the ostentatious parts of the Catholic Church, you know, the gold columns and the fancy this and that.

He's just a very plain, simple man who just devoted his life to serving.

Well, you know what I liked about that when I was watching the news about the Pope, when he was giving his big address at the end, he said, "Well, now we can all have lunch." You know, it seemed funny, like, "Okay, now we can eat." I just like that. It seemed very down to earth.

I think he's going to be that, and I think he's going to be a Pope of the people.

I think he's going to have the same kind of impact that Pope John Paul II did.

But more important, I think it signifies a very radical kind of shift that is taking place, that needs to take place on our planet right now, not just in our country but in the world.

We've got to get to a place where we stop resolving our disputes with violence and with ignoring the poor and so on, and reaching out and recognizing that, you know, everybody on this planet, they're all our brothers. These are all our brothers and all our sisters. And we need to reach out and love everyone regardless of where they live.

And I had that sort of insight when I spoke a few weeks ago about just returning from the Middle East when I spoke in Abu Dhabi and Dubai.

There's a coming together in the world.

I mean, the internet is bringing us—

this world is shrinking and shrinking and shrinking, getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And the way that we're going to survive is You know, in the Course in Miracles, there's a line that says, um, every thought of love is true and everything else is a plea for healing. So, uh, any thoughts that you have, they're not— that are not of love is a plea for some kind of a healing. And I just see this as a—

and the idea that it was Saint Francis, because if you read Wishes Fulfilled, you can see the incredible impact that Francesco has had on my life.

And I have been talking about him so dramatically, and I just almost feel like Like somehow I'm a part of all of this, the new Pope called Pope Francis I. Part of the change and transition that's happening, you are definitely right, especially with Francesco, because I was called to Assisi on 3 different occasions, and each time I went there, absolute miracles took place.

And I feel him. If you read the opening, if you read the introduction to Wishes Fulfilled, there's a story in there. Of a woman up in Canada who wrote about watching me on stage talk about Saint Francis and seeing, you know, actually seeing me convert into Saint Francis on that stage just for a few seconds. Saw me shift out of the Wayne Dyer mode and look like I was up there in a brown robe and so on. And those—

I really believe that when we really align ourselves with these higher spiritual awarenesses that they become a part of us, especially when we're not doing it for any ego purposes. We're just doing it to serve.

So we do have time in this segment to grab a couple callers, so let's do that.

Absolutely.

A chance to chat with you. So let's go to Jackie on line 6, and she's calling from Albuquerque, New Mexico. And Jackie, welcome to the show. You're our first caller today.

Thank you, Diane. I'm so happy to be able to talk with you again. I'm just going to jump right in and something that I've written, okay? And it's, standing there with my mother's image at my side, staring back at me in the mirror, I began to revisit the events that brought about her death. Poking around in a whole boatload of garbage, I found I had not forgiven her and kept alive all the anger and resentment I had by marrying any thoughts of my mother to her failed suicide attempt.

And did you write this yourself? Hello?

Is she there?

I don't know.

No, I think we lost the call, but she was asking for forgiving her mother for her suicide.

Oh, I'm, I'm sorry.

Oh, there she is.

I accidentally muted my button. Okay, I'm going to start over again.

And well, no, don't read. Okay, please don't read. I'd rather talk to you. We can't use the radio for a place to read, so just tell me what motivated you to pick up the phone and call today.

Honestly, I really want to come to that workshop, that writer's workshop, and I've been told there's, um, no scholarships and that volunteering only covers half the cost. And so I wrote a little piece as a sample of my writing, but mostly I wanted to thank you, thank you, thank you for encouraging me to forgive my mother, because what I hadn't forgiven her for was not falling and, you know, causing me to be born deaf in one ear.

The biggest part was that she failed in her suicide attempt.

Against my advice, she took massive quantities of Tylenol, lay on her bedroom floor while the drug ate away her organs, and then when they found her, she was still alive, and they put her on life support, and I had to make the call from 1,000 miles away to make her comfortable and let her go. And I'd been hanging on to so much anger and resentment for 16 years, and it wasn't until I talked to you in February when you asked if I'd forgiven my mother that I finally said, Mom, I forgave you for, for falling, didn't I? And She appeared to me, and then I went into, but Mom, I can't forgive you for attempting suicide. And her— she responded with, I am sorry my suffering has caused you so much pain, but my suffering is over while yours continues.

Yes, and yours doesn't have to continue because, because she had the absolute right to leave her body whenever it was that she wanted to. And there's nothing in there for— you know, all she wanted to do was to remove that what she thought was her suffering. And she's now in a place of divine peace, divine goodness. I look forward to seeing you in Denver. I think if you put your— it's still a month away. I think if you put your attention on being able to manifest the means to be able to be there, you're going to watch. You watch. Ask your mom. Ask your mom if she can help you with that. I could do it for you. But, but rather than my doing it for you, which is usually my inclination, but in this case, my inclination is to have you just ask, just ask about, Mom, what is it that I need to do in order to get myself to this place and be able to handle it? And you watch and see, it's going to show up. It's going to show up in a very mysterious way for you, a way that you won't be able to explain away, you know, with your mind.

But it'll be there for you.

It'll be taken care of. And I'll see you there in Denver.

Thank you.

And thanks.

Thank you.

God bless you, Jackie.

Mm-hmm.

And we have about 5 minutes in this segment, so time to go to Megan on line 1. She's calling from Annapolis, Maryland. Megan, welcome to the show.

Hi, Diane. Thank you for taking my call. Hi, Dr. Dyer.

Hello.

How are you today?

I'm good.

Good.

Calling because I am wondering, how do I know which path my higher self would have me take in my marriage? I've been married for a few years and things do not seem to be working out, but I do love my husband. I have met another person who I feel allows me to better connect with my higher self than, um, that— than my husband does. And I don't know what the right thing is to do because I do love my husband. I just— I don't know how to—

how to know what my higher self would have me Are you having an affair with this other man?

I had, yes.

Yes.

So are you loaded with guilt about that?

I am, yeah.

And it's the guilt that's, uh, see, you'll be guided in the right way when you can get past the guilt. The guilt is, uh, the thing that will tear you up inside.

That's what's tearing you up now, not the fact that you've, you know, made these other kinds of decisions in your life as you've evolved in your marriage.

And the answer to this really, uh, needs to be for you to just surrender It's surrendering, it's letting go and allowing yourself to be guided, you know, in this kind of a conflict. Because if you're still not at peace within yourself, then you're going to still create the same need, you know, to have someone else fulfill what you call your connection to your higher self. Your higher self is God. And staying in that place, staying in a place of love where you have, first of all, you have to forgive yourself. You have to let go of all of this guilt that you are carrying around. And the truth will set you free on this whole thing, you know. So it's one of those things that I can't give you the answer.

I can't tell you what you should do or you should not do in terms of whether you should end your marriage and take up another one. But generally, if you're doing it because you think that someone else is going to bring you the happiness and the fulfillment that you desire, you're still living in an illusion because it's you. It's your connection to God that is This is where you have to go. You haven't done anything that you need to be beating yourself up for or feeling guilty about or whatever. What you need to understand is that your connection to your higher self is done, done through you.

No one else can do this for you.

And when you get to that place, then the right people will come along. And this other person that you find yourself loving and as you feel is connected to you in a, in a higher way, you can have that person in your life without having to be going through, uh, you know, the turmoil that you're creating for yourself by feeling like you're, uh, you're being dishonest or you're cheating or whatever. You can have that regardless. I mean, it's an awareness that I've had to come to many times in my own life.

Go within, get quiet, be in a state of peace, and just ask for the guidance.

And I, I think I would sit down and talk to my husband about it if I were you. I think having a conversation with him about, uh What you feel is missing in this, um, you know, relationship that you are calling your marriage that, um, makes you want to be someplace else, you know?

Right.

Have you talked to him about it? Does he, um—

I have many times, um, and the conclusion is that he tries to work on the things that I feel are missing, and it never lasts for more than a week or so, and then we're kind of back where we began.

Yeah.

So it's like, how at peace are you, Megan, in your life with yourself? You know, how close to God do you feel, independent of your husband, independent of this other person that is in your life? How close do you feel when I'm—

when I quiet my mind?

I feel very at peace and close, right?

Stay in that place. We only have just a few seconds left. The solution to this for you is to understand that, you know, it says in the Course in Miracles, I can choose peace rather than this. Choose to be in a place of peace.

Okay, thank you, Dr. Dabney.

You're very welcome, Megan. God bless you today.

And, uh, let's go right back to the call.

Let me just take one second. Uh, I just want to, uh, follow up one moment on that, on the last call we had.

I think it was from Megan.

Yes.

Is that so often when we're trying to make decisions about what we should do in our life and where we should go and who we should be with and so on, we're coming from a place of belief that if only this person will change, if only this person will, or I can do it better with that person, and we get into this sort of serial moving around from one person to another to another, always looking for our connection to God or to our source or to our feelings of happiness and joy and so on, thinking that it's going to come finally when this one— and it's only when you go within and get quiet and connect yourself to your source and realize that you are always connected to God and live from that place, recognizing that your happiness, your joy, your fulfillment, your connection to whatever it is you would want to be is totally dependent upon you and your I Am Presence connection. You know, so just begin to say, I am content.

I am fulfilled.

I am happy. And just let the universe take care of the details and get out of the illusion that if I leave here and I go there or whatever, that that's finally going to bring me the peace that has been so elusive in my life. It has to come from within. And then who you're supposed to be with and how it all works out, that'll all get taken care of by something much bigger than all of us. Anyway, I just wanted to add that.

No, that's great advice.

Yeah.

Okay.

So let's go to Karen, uh, holding on in Reddington, New Jersey. And thanks for being patient, Karen. You're on with Dr. Wayne Dyer today.

Oh, wonderful.

Hi, Diane. Hi, Dr. Dyer.

Hi, Karen. How are you today?

I'm wonderful. I'm so grateful to have the chance to talk to you. This is so exciting.

Me too.

Good, good, good, good. My question is, several months ago you talked about, you know, the concept of this, the self-actualized person. And you were talking about, you know, being, you know, of the world. And I know it's funny because I feel like, I feel a little like almost conceited saying this out loud, but I know I'm a self-actualized person. And I know that there's so much bigger things that I am, am priming myself to do, but I still have to do my job. You know, I have a full-time job. I have, um, you know, I have to clean my house, and sometimes I just get, you know, I don't want to do the things that are almost like— they almost, they feel mundane to me now. So I'm just looking for some advice because I think what happens with me is I get out of that good place, and then like nothing happens. So I just— I, I've been wanting to talk to you about this for a while, and then today I got through. I was so excited. And it's funny, I have to tell you though, it's a little bit of your fault today that I don't feel like doing my work work, because it is— it's your fault, because I got in the mail today my credentials to— for the Denver event. So I'll be with you in Denver.

Oh good!

Oh, that's wonderful.

I'm very excited.

Yeah.

So then that's what I'm like. When I got that, I got totally out of doing my job.

Yeah, but you know, sometimes it's in the most mundane of things that we do that we find the greatest teachings come to us.

I don't know if you've ever read any of Thich Nhat Hanh's mindfulness, you know, that they would teach the Buddhists who were in the kitchen, you know, to be able to take a plate and to just, in the washing of the plate and in the drying of the plate and putting it down, you know, working in the kitchen, that if you're in a state of mindfulness, that you can find your connection to God, you can find enlightenment, you can find complete peace, you know, just total serenity in just this simple act of washing a dish and so on. So that they're, you know, it's the line from The Way of the Peaceful Warrior. I don't know if you've read Dan Millman's wonderful book. Um, oh, you must read that. Yeah, try to find it. That's a good thing to get a hold of, The Way of the Peaceful Warrior. And there's a teacher in there, and I'll just very briefly sketch it. There's a man who's a teacher's name, and he's called Socrates. And, um, Socrates, uh, is teaching Dan, who is, uh, actually was a gymnast, like an Olympic-level gymnast. And was trying to teach him. He said, you have to go out and sit on a rock and don't come back and come off of that rock, no matter how long you stay there, until you have—

I think until you can say something that's really significant, really relevant.

It has to be really important. And he would go away and he'd come back and he'd say something, say, no, that's not it. And he'd come back and he'd sit there for hours and hours.

He'd come back and he would say something to Socrates.

Socrates says, no, that's not relative. No consequence what you're saying whatsoever. And then after like 24 hours of doing this, finally what came to him, and he came to Socrates and he said to him, I think I've found something that is truly significant. I've really reached truth.

And he said, what is it? And he said, there are no ordinary moments. There are no ordinary moments. Like this whole concept of ordinary, it's like, and to recognize that extraordinariness is in every single thing that you do.

I have been struggling with a back issue. I've talked about it on the air here a few times.

And, you know, and just, you know, I was out swimming with the whales just recently, and I could hear the whales. They were so strong here on Maui, you know, at this time of the year.

I'd go under the water and you can just hear them screaming, screaming. And I was swimming above a turtle, big sea turtle, which are out there all the time. And I asked the whales, I said, this back thing of mine, it's just a pain in her ass because it's right there, okay?

And, uh, I said, what is it? What do I do?

And I just like just listening. It's like, this is just like what you would think of.

This is an ordinary moment.

I'm just out there swimming, and, uh, you know, it's something I do every single day. I'll do it every day of my life.

And I had a message come to me, and it said, swim like the turtles. Swim like the turtles.

That is, stop. And I was looking at a turtle at that moment. And rather than doing freestyle and then kicking my legs up and down and all of that, The turtles move their legs way out, you know, their, their back legs and the front legs. Well, my legs are the back legs of the turtle.

And I shifted in that moment. That was a few weeks ago.

I may have even mentioned this on the show since then.

I made a conscious decision that I was no longer going to swim using the stroke that I've been swimming with for 50 years, you know, which is a freestyle stroke. And I went to the breaststroke and I began to really put my legs out there. And it's like it's been one of the most amazing healing kinds of things. And it happened in such a simple mundane moment. You know, that's my first thought about it, that self-actualizing people, according to Maslow, said— he said that they see— he said he sees the unfolding— they see the unfolding of God in everything and everyone that they encounter, whatever it may be. Walking in an airport and just, just, you know, the person, uh, you know, standing in line ahead of you, that can be like one of the truly insightful moments in your life. In the book that I just finished writing, that I spent like 3 months writing every single day, I Can See Clearly Now, I realized that some of the most significant turning points in my life occurred in what I would have called ordinary moments, you know, before. And now I realize that there's absolutely no ordinary moments, that God is in everything. There's no place that God is not. And it's being able to be in that place and then you get guided. And I simply was guided that if you really want to heal yourself, here's a little piece of advice for you.

I don't know if that helps or not, but, uh, oh no, it helps a ton because I, I can see, even though I'm grateful, because I'm grateful to have a job because I make a great income, and then I make a great income, I can come see you without even having to really, you know, think about it, right? Right. But, but because I'm I'm so inspired by what I want to do that what I have to do or what I'm doing in the moment, I kind of— I'm not saying that this moment is a miraculous moment. I'm saying when I get over here to do what I want to do, then that will be the miraculous moment. So, yes, I'm missing these moments of right now.

Yeah, absolutely.

And mindfulness is a wonderful thing. I have a friend who's in Congress. His name's Tim Ryan.

He's—

I was just with him in Austin. He's been in the U.S. Congress and the House of Representatives, which is one of the places that needs healing, I think, probably more than any other collection of people in the country right now.

There's so much division and silliness going on in there. And he's written a book.

It's called The Mindful— what's it called, Diane? Mindful.

A Mindful Nation.

A Mindful Nation.

It's about being able to get to a place where you can practice this mindfulness because I studied the life of Saint Francis. You heard me talking earlier in the show about Saint Francis.

Oh yeah, you know, Saint Francis. I mean, when you read the stories of Saint Francis and who he was, and you read the stories of Jesus, and you read the stories of Mother Teresa, who I was blessed to, you know, be in the same room with, you see that these are her people who were, you know, Mother Teresa said it every day, I see Jesus Christ in all of his distressing disguises. And I would think about that when you think about, uh, you know, the things like even doing this radio show. For me, I mean, I've been doing this show now for 7 or 8 years every Monday.

And you know, you would think, well, this is like, this is just another one of those, quote, mundane chores that I have to do. I have to set aside this hour every Monday, and I got to go in and I have to sit in the room, and I have to clear the house so that none of my kids are around and there's no noise. I have to make sure that You know, and there's so many other things that would be easier for me to do, you know, just to be outside. My family's here now and so on.

But it's probably the most inspiring hour I have every single week, just talking to people like yourself, you know, from all over the world. And sometimes I put the phone down at the end of the hour and I have tears going down my throat. And I thought, this is just like, what's this little radio show? You're just doing call-in radio show.

That means you've been doing this forever, this kind of thing.

And yet, some of the greatest insights that I've had and feelings of, you know, it's like, because self-actualization really boils down to surrender. Truly, it's surrender, which means just like letting— what they say in the recovery movement, it's like just letting go, just letting go and letting God direct your life. And it's about service. And it's about the other thing that Dan Millman wrote about in The Way of the Peaceful Warrior. It's about recognizing that there are no ordinary moments. There is no such thing. It's like when my kids say, I'm bored, and all of this. It's not possible. There's no such thing as boredom for a self-actualized person, you know. There's no such thing as mundane. There's no— these things that you are doing, begin to be so conscious of what it is that you're doing each and every day, whatever it is. If you're sitting at your desk and just writing, instead of just making that a routine, You know, finding the spirit and finding a way to just surrender and to finding a way to be of service, Karen. It's about being of service, you know, and it's available to you at all times within one block of where everybody who's listening to me right now, wherever you are in the world, within a block or two of where you are living, there is somebody who could use your help. You know, there's somebody there who you could go read to or that you could take a gift to, or you could just smile towards, or you could help clean up their house, or I mean, there's somebody that's worse off than you. And I was blessed on the way home. I stopped at the airport. I don't know if you've known this book, Diane. I was in Austin and I thought, you know, I've got this 9-hour flight from Dallas to Maui. And I want to— something, I just— something that just directed me and I want to read something, you know. And I've got a lot of other stuff to do, but I thought, I think I need to read something. And I was going through and I picked up this book. It was called I think it was called 90 Minutes in Heaven, and it was the story of a man who was absolutely pronounced dead. They put a tarp over him. He was in an automobile accident back in 1989. He was a Baptist minister, and, you know, they were getting ready to put him into the— and this man came who was another minister and started to pray over him while over his body, and then he began to sing these songs. Now, this is a man who'd been pronounced dead twice, had no pulse. They couldn't find the— it was a terrible, terrible accident. And out of this, I mean, he was a mangled one. His leg had almost been separated from his body.

I mean, he was just, it was really a mess.

And, um, when this minister was praying over him, he suddenly started singing. He came back to life. I mean, it was like, he describes, he was unconscious for these 90, and he describes what those 90 minutes were like. And I thought it was going to be some, you know, just another appeal to like this far-right kind of, uh, you know, it's all about Jesus. So it wasn't about that at all. It was Really one of the most touching books I've ever read. I read the entire thing on the flight yesterday, 200 pages. And I was thinking about the moment, the momentousness of somebody just standing there and praying over a corpse, and the power that is in a moment like that. You know, that's this moment, this moment when the semi-truck crashed into him and caused his whole life was turned upside down. And he speaks in there about all of the incredible lessons that came out of that. That one instant and what his 90 minutes in heaven were like. It was a very interesting time. Yeah.

Wow.

Anyway, amazing. Yeah, it really is. I don't know if you've ever heard of that book. The man's name was Don Piper, P-I-P-E-R, a minister from in Texas.

Yeah, I have to look that up.

Yeah. Well, thank you, Karen. God bless you, my love.

I'll see you in Denver.

You sure will.

Just come up and say to me— here's what you say to me when you see me there at the Brown Hotel in Denver.

There are no ordinary moments.

Okay, I will.

All right, see you.

Take care.

God bless you.

Bye-bye.

Bye.

And let's head over to Chicago, see what's going on there.

My kind of town.

And check in with Steve. I think it still might be cold there. Steve, you're on the line with Dr. Dyer.

Hi, how you doing?

Hey, Steve.

Yeah, it's pretty cold here still.

Is it?

Yeah.

What's on your mind, my friend?

Well, I've been listening.

I can identify with some of the other callers. I, I feel what they're saying. I'm, I'm kind of not as inspired as I used to be doing my daily day-to-day business, and I'm trying to transition into more spiritual filmmaking and more like creative filmmaking, and I'm just I don't know, I can't get passionate. I went through some kind of healing, but it's still slow going, you know.

Mm-hmm.

So you're looking for your excitement?

Yeah, I don't know what happened to me. I mean, I've listened to you for years, and before I was in a sales job, I quit my job and then I just manifested my video production company just following your advice. And I don't know why I can't do that right now. I just don't feel it yet.

It sounds to me, and I'm just guessing here, that you're evaluating whether you're doing well or happy or content or fulfilled on the basis of some external kind of indicator, indice, like, you know, how well you're doing. Is it inspiring you?

Are you making enough money? Are you— whatever it might be. And so often we have a tendency to evaluate or determine how well we are doing or whether we're on purpose or whether we're following our bliss or our excitement. On the basis of external things rather than internal things. And this is really one of the big shifts that I've been able to make in my life, that to be honest, again, it's in alignment with what we were talking about with Karen just a few minutes ago, being able to find bliss.

And, uh, you know, I was, I was, um, I was at an AA meeting, oh, 15, 20 years ago, and I, I saw that there was a, uh There was a sign on the wall in the back of this room, and I had never seen it before.

And it became— I called it one of the 10 Secrets for Success and Inner Peace, a book that I wrote for my teenage kids a few years ago.

And on the back of the wall in this room, it was a sign, and it said, "There are no justified resentments." And I thought, "Wait a minute, what does that mean?" And it's like, you know, there's some things—

like, I resent a lot of the stuff that's going on. You know, I resent our Congress, the way that they're acting about You know, guns and so on in our society, city of Chicago, all these young kids getting shot. I mean, I've come up with a lot of things that I have said there are no justified resentments.

And this is one of the great lessons of Alcoholics Anonymous, is that you've got to go into your mind and look back at everything that's ever happened to you or whatever. And instead of looking back at it, or even what's going on around you, instead of looking at it from the perspective of these are things that really piss me off, you know, these are things that really get me upset. Instead, beginning to see that there's something for us in every single moment, in every single place, in every single event, circumstance, and people, and all of that. That there's something there for us in all of this, and that to not fill our hearts with resentment. And I look back now as having written out these 60 circumstances and so on that have happened to me over a period of my life since I was a little boy. And I can see that there's something to be gained in all of it. And when you're in a state of what you're calling maybe boredom or ennui or an absence of motivation or inspiration, that that's not a time to be saying, what am I doing wrong? And why isn't my life working the way I would like it to be working right now? And why aren't things going this way? And how come I've lost my passion? And so on. But instead to be saying, this state that I'm feeling right now has something very important and very powerful to teach me. And to get down on your knees and be in a state of gratitude for it. And then you'll find that if you shift your consciousness, your thinking, out of, uh, I can't find my passion or my excitement or whatever it is in doing this, that, or the other thing, and instead of saying, I bring my excitement to everything that I do in my life. You know, it's like, uh, I used to talk to somebody who really, really loved gardening, and they'd say, you know, it's like, uh, you can't go out and garden and hope that that by being out there in the garden that that's going to bring you some happiness, because there is no way to happiness. You know, happiness is the way. What you have to do is bring your happiness or your joy or your fulfillment or your gratitude or your awe or your bewilderment. Bring that.

You know, as Rumi said, sell your cleverness and purchase bewilderment.

Bring that with you to the garden.

And then this is what I guess we'll call this show about mindfulness, Diane, because it's really about You know, coming, you know, going to the garden and being able to bring joy to the pulling of the weeds instead of saying, oh, if I didn't have to do these weeds and so on, and bringing it to virtually everything.

And when you fill yourself with this kind of excitement and this kind of passion, you bring it to everything and everyone you encounter.

Then you never have to ask the question, why have I lost my passion? Because you bring your passion to everything.

And even what, that which is passionless to you, allows you to be passionate even about that.

Gotta go, my friend. God bless you today and everyone out there who's calling.

That's great. What a great show. We had really good callers and just lots of amazing points to cover. Yeah, so many interesting things. Well, you'll be back live next week, right?

I hope so.

Yeah, if not, but I'm only in this moment. I'm just gonna go to this moment. I have no, no anticipation. Well, we'll talk to you next week.

God bless you, dear. Bye.

And congratulations, you're one video closer to who you're meant to be.

Believe.

For another amazing Wayne Dyer video, check it out right there next to me. I think you'll love it. Continue to believe, and I'll see you there.

Well, the loving thing to do is exactly what you did do, which is to not take sides and to just be an instrument of peace and to try to have your daughter understand that, um, you know, that she doesn't need to