Anitta: Endometriosis, Mental Health, & Things Men Should Stop Doing In Bed | TUH #048

Welcome to the podcast, Anita. It's like a freaking Oprah Winfrey episode up in here.

Here is the global superstar from Brazil.

Grammy award winning superst.

Kidnapped your daughter.

Yeah, you kidnapped my daughter. Jumped on a private plane.

You know, there's no way you're gonna keep there on the top every time, forever. Healthy.

Yeah.

Alive, asking myself, where's my next hit? Where's my next hit? Where's my success? Oh my God.

The more my message gets out there, the more hate and vitriol that I get.

I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. I was like desperated, I think, to be an ultimate human. Ultimate human.

Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human podcast where we dive deep into the stories that shape us, the passions that drive us, and the health journeys that transform us today. We're thrilled to welcome a phenomenal force in music and a beacon of resilience and health advocacy, Anita. She was born Larissa de Macedo Machado in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Anita's journey from a YouTube discovery to. To a global superstar, Grammy award winning superstar has been nothing short of inspirational. With hits like Involver capturing her or catapulting her to the top of the Spotify global top 50 chart. She's not only put Brazilian music on the world map, but has also become a vocal advocate for body positivity, women's health, and particularly in her battle with endometriosis, which we are going to dive into today. She's an entrepreneur, an open artist, a warrior on her health journey. And Anita's story is a powerful testament to the spirit of overcoming the importance of wellness in achieving peak performance. Join us as we explore Anita's multifaceted career, her approach to wellness and self care, and how she balances the pressure of fame with her unwavering commitment to her own health regimen and Brazilian heritage. Hey guys, welcome back to the ultimate human podcast where we go down the road everything anti aging, biohacking, longevity and everything in between. And today's podcast is going to be a big part of the everything in between. I, I couldn't be happier to have this guest on. You've seen her intro. She is absolutely an icon who took the music scene by storm. But her story is absolutely phenomenal. Her health journey is even more compelling. So we're going to dissect it all today. I'm going to warn you, maybe midway through the podcast, you might want to get the kids out of the room because we're going to talk about the stuff that everybody wants to talk about, but Nobody does all this stuff that the wives want their husbands to hear, and husbands want their wives to hear, but nobody has the balls to do it. So we're going to go down that road today. My guest, I am proud to call a close friend. She's very close with my daughter and my family. Welcome to the podcast, Larissa, AKA Anita. It's like a. An Oprah Winfrey episode up in here.

Thank you.

Literally, like an Oprah Winfrey episode.

I am super happy to be here.

I'm so happy to be here, too, because you and I have had an amazing journey, right?

Yes.

Aside from the fact you go dancing with my wife and travel the world with my daughter, and. And our families have become so close. But when we first met, you know, we. We were introduced by Dave Grutman, the hospitality king of. Of the world. And I. You know, they talk about six degrees of separation. When you put Dave Grutman's name in there, it becomes one degree of separation. I'm like, how does one person know so many?

Everybody.

But when. When he first called me to have a conversation with you, it was not a particularly good time in your life. And I remember he told me all about you. And, you know, at that time, you were on this meteoric rise, and the media had discovered you, the music industry had discovered you, and you were just on this meteoric rise, but you were really suffering.

Yeah, I was struggling.

Yeah.

I was thinking I was gonna die for real.

You know, very first FaceTime, you were laying on a couch, and you didn't even take your head off the pillow. I remember somebody put the FaceTime down on the. On the couch, and you were laying there, and we started having this. This conversation, and you were actually deep in the struggle of endometriosis.

And not only that. Right?

Yeah.

Remember, it was not only that.

Well, I mean, it also affected your, you know, mood, your emotional state. You know, you cried a little on the phone. To me, I just remember feeling this deep sense of this woman's trapped.

My hormones. Remember my hormones.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

That's crazy.

Hormone panel.

Yes.

You're having a lot of pain. You're up. And for those. For people that don't know what endometriosis is, and most women are familiar, at least with what the condition is, but it's where tissue from the uterus grows outside of the uterus, the ovaries. And. And it can be very, very painful. And I remember we got blood labs on you, and I was talking to Dr. Sarda, and she was like, oh, my God, this poor woman's tortured. And, and you know, we've got to get this, this birth control out of her body. I remember you were going back to Brazil to have the procedure done. I mean, look at you now. Things have obviously changed. But, but let's, let's talk about a little bit about that journey.

Yeah. And I don't, I don't point the surgery as the solution for anything.

Right.

For me, the solution was when I met you and I started to actually take care of the 360 of light of my life. Not only like, oh, because I think before meeting you and everything and getting into the nutrition and understanding how to eat healthy and the behaviors we can do, we can have in our day to day before that. I, and I think most of the people are like that too, is like they wait to feel pain somewhere, to take something, some medicine to, to cure that or to do a surgery to fix that. And I think if you just live a life worrying about staying well, you don't get to the point of needing to take the medicines and surgeries and etc. Etc.

Yeah. I mean, that's so well said. And I remember that our, you know, our journey, like, you know, of course you had that, you know, you had that birth control removed.

Yeah.

And that was a big part of it. I remember we said, look, let's wait two weeks after you remember, they put.

A IUD that was of hormones that didn't. That made me very sad. Remember, I was like depressed. And then they changed to a ship kind of a ship.

Yeah. The one that we can't even do here in the United States.

In Brazil they do a lot. And I was like, this ended my life. It was like I was like so frustrated and traumatized by going from doctor to doctor. And then when I met you and you said, listen, let's do all natural things.

Yeah.

And you're gonna get better. Also, I was always tired.

I remember that.

And this is also something that when I'm working too much and like, for example, I had Carnival in Brazil right now and I was the whole January and February working non stop. And did you see that video that I saw?

Like 3am to 3am like, no, even.

More 3am to 7am I was like more than 30 hours working and I was feeling like sleeping all day every time. And then people are like, oh no, that's okay. It's because you were so tired that you need to sleep for days. And I'm like, but this is weird. I'm just feeling tired all Day, every day. And I feel like it's because when you don't have, like, the discipline to remember, oh, listen, I'm gonna eat. Right. I gotta take the vitamins. Right. I gotta do this and this and that. Remember to take care. Then you start falling again.

Yeah.

And for me, if you. It's very clear to me, because then I came here right after.

Right.

Last week.

Yeah.

And one day of biohacking.

Yeah.

One day of that, and I was like, wow, I'm ready again.

I remember your first face changed, like, just in the few hours that you were here. And we should talk about, like, you know, what. What do we do? You know, basically, we just tapped into mother nature. We just did it indoors with magnetism, oxygen and light. Because one of my big things is the further that we get away from Mother Nature, the sicker we become.

That's it.

Yeah. And. And I introduced you to something called the PEMF mat, the Pulse Electromagnetic Field mat. And it looks like a yoga mat. And you just lay on it and. And I know you love this thing.

Love. It's my. I take it everywhere I go.

Yeah.

I can't. I take everywhere.

You see, she told me a funny story, and I'm just going to lay our crazy out there. So here. So here we go. We cut this out if you want, but.

But I don't get. It's fine.

But she was like, I was with my boyfriend and he wanted to have some fun. And I was like, I don't feel like having sex. And then she said she laid down on the bmf. Matt.

No, but it was even harder than that because we went partying. It was my. My birthday trip, right. So we went partying. We were like drinking, drinking, drinking. And it might hit you in different ways. You might just feel like, super excited or kind of like crying and this and that. And that's how I was feeling. I got to the hotel and I was like, crying for no reason. Crying for nothing. And he was like, okay. And it's.

Men love that too. We love that part.

I'm going to go to sleep. And I went to sleep. Cry. I. I turned on the mattress and I went to sleep crying. 10 minutes. 10 minutes after I did. I want to have sex. All of a sudden. All of a sudden I was like on a very bad mood. Cry over nothing. Nothing happened. And then I turned on the mattress and I was like, oh, I just woke up. I want to have sex.

You got alkaline.

And he was like, so confused.

Dude, PEMF mats are now sold out on Amazon and sold out worldwide.

It's so good. My dad also. Then we went on a trip. Meet this. This guy, my dad. And my dad was feeling very sick because he had a beginning of diabetes going on like a very early almost.

We're gonna fix it too.

So he was like, getting these shots to get better. And he was like, having diarrhea, throwing up. He was like, oh, I'm so sick. And we were like, on a vacation trip. I said, please lay down on a mat. This mattress. I don't even know if. I didn't even know if it was gonna work or not, but I said, this is the miracle mat that is good for everything.

Yeah.

And then I laid down him for 30 minutes, and he came back like, let's go, let's drink a beer. Let's have some fun. I was like, wow, it's amazing what.

Happens when you make the body alkaline. And for those of you that don't know what a PMF is, it's pulse electromagnetic field, low gauss current. It's just mimicking the magnetism that we get from mother Earth. People are, you know, they go to the beach and, like, I feel amazing. It's because you've been touching the surface of the earth, you've been grounding, you've been getting all of those ions. It's not that difficult. You know, in our journey, I love what you said about we're going to do things naturally, right? Because I. I remember just. I had this conversation with Dr. Sarda. She's our. Our OB GYN and she's like, I know exactly where this girl is, and she's being tortured, and we've got to get her hormones into the same phase. And, you know, this is a biohacking podcast, so I want to talk a little bit about how we biohacked our way out of the situation you were in, man. Your hormones were what she called aphasic, Meaning one was in one phase, one was in another phase. You know, one was ovulating, one was in luteal, one was in the foll phase. And when this happens to women when their. Their hormones get out of ratio, not when their levels are too high or too low, but when the ratios are off.

Remember, there was one thing happening every time I would go to the gym for like three days. The fourth day, I was full of pimples.

Yes. Breaking out like crazy. We realized she had massively estrogen dominant. And so instead of going to hormones, progesterone, pregnenolone, you Know the estradiols. Instead of hitting you at your age with hormones, we brought in something very simple called dim di andolo. Methane. Right. It's a. It's a cruciferous vegetable extract. It sort of sops up some of the phytoestrogens. We brought the estrogen back down into the normal range very naturopathically. Got you on some vitamin D3, put you on a really good methylated multivitamin based on your gene test. And I'm telling you, three weeks later, I saw a completely different, different, Completely different human. I remember your face changed shape like you, you were, you were like a little puffy and bloated. The eyelids are full.

And also my hair.

Yeah, your hair was super brittle. It was almost falling out.

Yeah, it was.

Yeah. And your skin was dry. And you were like, this should be the greatest time in my life. Like, my career is taking off. I'm in.

And I was. I couldn't take advantage. I had a number one song in the world and I couldn't take advantage of that because I got sick. Yeah, I couldn't take advantage. My career was like, oh, boom. Yeah.

You know what I find, too? I talk about this all the time. You know, if you ask any entertainer, entrepreneur, athlete, celebrity, or any average person, you know, any, any, any just middle class America, and you said, what's more important, your. Your career or your health? What's more important, your business or your health? What's more important, money or your health? They'll always say, my health. But then we need to take it a step further. And you're like, okay, you own a business. See, I own a business. How much did your business make last month? $628,000. How much did it net last month? $142,000. How many employees do you have? 17. What's your testosterone level? Blank. Right. What's your hemoglobin? A1C blank. And you, you sort of prove to them that while, you know, we say that our health is the most important thing, number one, we don't have any data on our temple. And number two, we're really not prioritizing our health.

We're not.

And when you made that shift, how did it impact your career, your relationships? Like, how did that shift just change the trajectory of your life?

I think it was a journey of, first, my mental health, because, remember, you also told me about the lack of some vitamins that would make me overthink at night when I wasn't taking it, methylfolate. And that was happening a lot yeah. And then when I started taking the vitamins, it was like gone. I could sleep without being like. I would think about the most random things.

There's so many people listening right now. They're like, oh my God, that's my life. I lay down to go to sleep. I'm exhausted, I'm body tired. But I'm mind awake.

My mind was like.

And the you think about is the most innocent nonsense.

It doesn't make. Yeah.

Everything on my grocery list, like, you know, should I have returned that phone call?

It's idiot stuff that you think about. It's crazy. And then when I started taking the vitamins that went goodbye to that. I started it be relaxed. And then I, I got better in a sense of like I could meditate and have more time because I think I was too like addicted to screen. And I think a lot of people are like that too addicted to be like rolling, rolling, rolling the phone and that when, when out it was over. And then it got so much better for my mental health. I was so. I was feeling so much happier with myself that I wasn't hungry for winning, hungry for more, more money, more this, more that. Because I feel like our social. We are so cringy, like so clingly. It's clearly a crink.

Cringy.

Like no, say it in Portuguese and we'll trench it. It's like, yeah. When you need other people's like approval or like the social con every time talking to people and say, oh yeah. Because I was telling Maddie, his daughter. I was telling your daughter the other day.

Yeah.

People feel nowadays people come to congratulate. Congratulate you for the things that you accomplished at work. Always if you get more money, if you change the house, people will always say congratulation, oh my God. And if the person is not hot anymore, there is this, this saying here. Oh, this person not hot anymore. And it's even more in my industry, it's like, oh, now this thing. Oh, it's hot now. And then next year, oh, it's not hot anymore. And I hate this. And that's why people are always like having this anxiety to do more, produce more, keep hot. And this is so much effort because you're competing with the whole world. We are competing with robots because now the algorithms and the AI. The AI. You're competing with people that don't even need a health. Not even people. You're competing with things that don't even need a health life.

So true.

And when my mentality got better, my, my mind got like More clear. I was able to stop thinking about it if I'm gonna be hot or not next year, if I'll be popping or not, if my music is going to be big or not, if people are gonna like it or not. I stopped thinking about that.

Wow.

So I was able to work less and work only when I felt. Felt pleasure, you know, because I knew.

When I started working only when I felt pleasure. That's a. I want to just point that out.

I want to work on this. This. Oh, I'm not gonna enjoy that. I don't want to do it. Because a lot of things in work, in the beginning of my career was like this. I was only doing things that I liked. And then things started to go big, you know, or if I did something that I didn't enjoy, I would always put my mindset to like, no, there is a good thing. Good point on this, you know? And at some point when you start doing things just to get people's approval or just to maintain the. The success. Success that you had, once you stop feeling this pleasure, instead of feeling pleasure, you'll feel pressure. You know, you feel like, no, I gotta achieve this, because otherwise everybody's gonna say I failed and I'm not hot anymore, you know?

Yeah. The Grammy you won was last year, not this year.

Yeah. That I was nominated. Yeah, I was nominated to the Grammy last year. All this year. Not anymore. She's not hot anymore.

Like, yeah.

Who gives? Because when you die, nobody will even remember these people.

Yeah.

The only people who will remember other people. That you are not giving as much attention right now because you're too busy trying to please the people who worry about this.

Yeah.

Who care about how hot you are in the moment.

So true.

And when I stopped, when I got healthier. And that's what I think. When you're eating healthier, when you're having healthier behaviors in your life, when you're breathing, when you. Yeah. This. When you're doing that, you kind of don't get connected to this pressure and you stop worrying about it.

Wow.

So first for me was like that to get it in a mental state. And I understand 100 that this is like the healthy. The discipline of health to your body makes your mind also don't go to these. This other side. So when I stopped worry, when I started taking care of my mentality and my body, I stopped connecting with this pressure. Wow. So even though my career and then it was super funny because I wasn't having a big, super, super hit in a while because Remember, I've stopped working for like five, six months. I wasn't working. I wasn't having like a big success in like a good one year maybe or something like that. And that was like feeling pressured about that. But then I started taking care of myself. And one day I was like, at this place, at this concert, and I started, like, taking care and I. And I actually, I came here one day. I did a lot of the protocols here with Madison. I did a lot of them. And we went to a concert in Brazil. I remember I kidnapped your daughter.

Yeah, you kidnapped my daughter. Jumped on a private plane. Yeah. Went to Brazil.

And then she did also another treatment with a year with the phone vital scan, the bioscan. And she said, oh, your mind, you're thinking too much. And this and that. Let's take care of that. And she did that twice on me. The next day we went to. We landed in Arizona, she came back home, and I went to do this concert. When I woke up this day after she did this thing, I was like, I'm living wrong. I'm too pressured. I'm like, why am I thinking if I have a hit, if I don't have a hit, I had a number one. It's like, it's like. And I went to. Remember I found out I was super sick when I went to Everest.

Yes.

I wanted to go to Everest. And then I. I couldn't even walk the Himalayas because I was so tired. Like in four hours, I was like. And I needed a rescue people. And I wasn't even in the ice. I was. Because for those who've never been to the Everest.

Yeah.

It's like this. You start walking and walking in the cute forest in the Himalayas, and it becomes like more like a desert vibe. Rocks. And then it goes to the ice and then the Everest. It's the whole path. I was still in the cute trees.

This is such a metaphor for life just walking. Yeah.

And they killed trees. And I got so you're looking at the mountain and you're going, the mountain wasn't even. I couldn't even. Oh, you couldn't even see the mountain. It was still nine days for me to get to the mountains. Nine days walking.

Oh, wow.

And I was like, oh, this nine days walk is gonna be great. And I couldn't even stand like four hours. And I was like, wow, I am so sick. And like, nowadays I'm doing concerts of seven hours nonstop.

Right.

You know, and then for me. And then when I was there, I was thinking a lot about that, like, if you climb the Everest and you get there to the top, the highest place in the world, you cannot, first of all, you cannot get there without oxygen. Like naturally, you cannot get there. You need other equipments, other stuff. So it's not humanly alone, like, possible. You need stuff. When you get there, you cannot stay more than 40 minutes. That's it.

That's it.

You gotta get down. And depending on the weather, you stay there seven minutes. You gotta get down, right? Gotta go down. You gotta get to the top and be ready to go down. Because people die when they're going down. They get to the top and then when it's time to go down, that's where they die sometimes.

Wow.

So you got to be ready for the whole journey. You gotta get ready to go up. If you stop to help others. Done. You're not going to be able to make it this time. You gotta come back, wait for the next time. Because if you stop to help someone, you're wasting your oxygen and your time to do it. So you're not gonna reach the top if you help others. If you don't save energy and oxygen to go down. You're gonna get, go, go up. People are gonna know you went up, but you're gonna be dead. So you gotta get ready for all these, for all the parts of the process. So if you put this as beside the success in life, in your career, it's the same. Yeah, you can go up, but you gotta go down sometimes to, you know, there's no way you're gonna keep that on the top every time. Forever healthy, alive, happy, you know, Top of the world.

Exactly.

And maintaining this feeling of being happy because what, what are you gonna do there for the rest of your life there on the top?

Exactly. You know, and, and by the way, that the higher you are and the more, the closer to the peak or at the peak you are, the more isolated you are. Right.

I mean, it doesn't work that well.

Yeah.

Because of the lack of oxygen, you.

Know, and that's, that's sort of one thing that I've really gotten to admire about you, is that I feel like there's almost this split personality because you have this very calm, very like, almost like a homebody like you who. A shy girl that really doesn't crave the fame or the fortune or the limelight or the stage or the presence or, you know, all of the public eye. Like your preference is actually not that.

Yeah.

You know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're Almost like the anti Anita behind the scenes. Like, you know, and it's. It's. I'm so appreciative. Like, I've seen you and Madison just lay around on the floor and talk about spirituality and. And, you know, and your astrological charts and, you know, you got my daughter taking all these weird trips all over. She's like, dad, I got to go to Chicago on my birthday. I'm like, like, what's that about? Like, is there any scientific evidence behind this theory that because these nine planets said you need to be in Chicago on your birthday? She's like, no, that's what Anita said to her.

No, but I mean, it's because, listen. And then. So when I was there in Everest, I was like, thinking about all of these things, and if you try to reach the top again, it's not going to be the same. Same pleasure that you had when you reached the first time.

So true.

Because you've already had this feeling of, oh, I went up. Wow. When you go again, it's like, oh, cool. I went twice. Then it's to tell people. I went twice. I went three times, four times, five times. But it's to tell the others because the feeling, the sensation, it's. It's not that amazing as when you were there for the first time. You got to go back and have a. Have your life. And then if you miss going there, then you're gonna have this pleasure. But if you don't miss, if you just keep going to tell people, oh, yeah, I went to the top. I'm at the top. I'm at the top. So if you think about your career like that, it's the same. Are you keep. You. Do you keep working that hard because you want to feel this pleasure or because of the others, are they gonna say, I'm not. Not hot anymore? So after she did this. This bio on me, I woke up the other day, I was like, I'm living wrong. I'm here asking myself, where's my next hit? Where's my next hit? Where's my success? Oh, my God. And actually, I've had all of that. I'm here just to enjoy all the consequences and the things that I got from the success that I already had. So I'm fine. I don't need more success. And then I had a concert to do that day, and I was like, I'm going to have fun in this concert. I don't care. But I got there very, like, feeling pressured. But when I woke up, I was like, actually, I'm going to have a good time. I'm in Arizona. Who. Who other. Who's the other Brazilian singer who has the, the, the possibility, the opportunity to be in Arizona doing a concert for a non Brazilian audience? Like most international. I'm the only one. Like, look how hard I worked. And I was like, oh, my God, yes. And then I went to the concert and I did this concert. Like, whoa. I was so happy.

Yeah.

I was so happy that the song that I performed there went viral. And then the song was in the global charts again.

Wow.

The top 20 again in the world.

You know, it's such a great metaphor for life.

It was top 10 again. And then I. The song it launched for Brazil was top five. I was like, wow, what am I? You see? And then everything changed. And all. Every time I come here and I do the, all the protocols, because this was right after I did it and I was. I wasn't being here for a minute.

Yeah.

And every time I do it, it's a different thing. Like, I came here last week, I went to a concert in Chile. Wow. That went. Everything went perfectly.

Yeah.

And I think it's. Everything aligned. When you take care of the body and you have, like, healthy behaviors, everything goes well around.

And some of what you're doing is, you know, I don't want people to think that it's like crazy fancy stuff. I mean, you're doing PMF mats, you're doing red light therapy. You love the red light therapy.

Love.

She loves the hydrogen bath.

Amazing.

She got out of that thing and she was like, oh, my God, look at my skin.

And also the, the new one that I tried that. Okay. So many heavy metals from me.

Yeah. That was pretty wild. Sometimes when you get out of that, you actually see the heavy metals on. On the, on the towel. And I know people are like, complete. It's complete nonsense. But you're. I mean, you feel clean at a cellular level. Right? I mean, and. And it's. It's a gas called ozone. O3 gas. And when it gets into the body, that, that third oxygen molecule just goes after free radicals and oxidation. And it's. It's amazing how good we can feel when we tap into the natural state of the body. Right. The natural state of the human body. And I. I've met so many, you know, famous entertainers that have been on a similar journey. You know, I actually had Cedric Gervais on my podcast and I remember him telling me about. He. He won a Grammy the same day. Been chain smokers. But his childhood mentors that he was like, oh, my God, I want to be them. I want to be them. I want to be them. And then he got into the music scene and won a Grammy the same day. And he talks about how he fell into almost this. This depression, like what you were talking about. He made it to the top of the mountain, he got to the top of Everest, and then he got back down, and he was like, okay, well, what now? There's not a higher peak in smokers, but his childhood mentors that he was like, oh, my God, I want to be them. I want to be them. I want to be them. And then he got into the music scene and won a Grammy the same day. And he talks about how he fell into almost this. This depression, like, what you were talking about. He made it to the top of the mountain, he got to the top of Everest, and then he got back down, and he was like, okay, well, what now? There's not a higher peak? And. And a friend of his called him and said because none of his music was really catching on, a friend of his called him and said, hey, what did you do to make. And I might be bastardizing this story a little bit. So, Cedric, I'm sorry, but his friend of his called him and said, hey, what did you do to win the Grammy? How did you make that music? He said, I just wanted to make music for my friends. And he goes, why don't you go back to just making music for your friends? You know, music that your friends want to play? And he did bang. Same thing. Right back to the top of the charts. And I think for people that are not entertainers or celebrities or athletes, it's such a metaphor for life. Right? Because who are we living for?

Yeah. And I think with Internet, with the cell phone, we are kind of, like, polluting our minds, believing in a fake life, you know, because in social media, we only show what we want, and we are looking too much of the others, and we are like, oh, I want to do this. Oh, no, I want to be that. Now I want to be. And you kind of don't even know what you alone want to do. So. Yeah. And it's crazy, because every time I come here and I do all of these things and I take care of myself, I forget to be looking at the screen. I forget to be looking at these things, and I have a great time with. With me. And then I eat healthier. I don't feel like eating a bunch of, like, unhealthy things. It's so different because one thing that you do and changes all the. The rest of. Of your mentality, your body, your health. And I feel that the more unhealthy I eat, the. The more unhealthy behaviors I. I have. My. My mental health goes bad together.

Yes.

You know, goals.

And. And it's crazy how modern medicine thinks about the human body because we think about this being completely separate from this. Right. So we don't think that things that are going on in our body, poor diet, lack of nutrients, which I talk about all the time. I think that most people are nutrient deficient, which is what you were. You were not sick. There was no disease or pathology aside from when you got the endometriosis fixed. But there wasn't disease, there wasn't pathology. There was nothing happening to you. There was something happening within you. And when we addressed those deficiencies, boom, it's like the Larissa became Anita. You know what I mean? It's like, boom, this whole woman emerged and you looked better. Your energy. You know what I mean? It's like, boom, this whole woman emerged and you looked better, your energy changed.

Because also, like, is that true? I have heard this, but that the stomach, it's like our second brain, no doubt, because what we eat is going to interfere. And how our brain is working changed. Because also, like, is that true? I have heard this, but that the stomach.

Dr. Perlmutter's book, the Gut Brain Connection and. Or the grain Brain and, you know, the majority of our neurotransmitters and neurotransmitters form the basis of all mood are made in our gut. Think about serotonin, the main driver of mood and emotion. Dopamine, the main driver of behavior. These are manufactured in our gut. There's no dopamine tablet that you can take. There's no serotonin capsule that you can take. But 90% of the serotonin in our bodies is right here. If you don't have it here, you can't have it here. So a lot of times our depression, our anxiety, our fears, and. And our mood is not. Doesn't come from the cluster of symptoms outside the body. It comes from right here. I mean, you are on relatively little intervention right now. Peptide for muscle and skin. Can I talk about that?

Yeah.

Okay. Okay, good. I'm like, I'm just throwing her medical record out there, but, you know, a multivitamin.

I'm taking a bit of test still, because, remember, I had 0.2, so a.

Little testosterone cream, 0.2.

When I was like.

I was like, look, Out. Somebody's gonna need a safe word when you start using this.

No. And I was doing concerts and that's what I feel like. I had no testo, but my mental was so well that I was being able to hold.

Yeah.

Just by my mind state of like. No, let me keep going, I gotta finish this.

You're in a great mood but you were exhausted and so you were deficient. Yeah. And so Dr. Sarda put you on some testosterone cream and bo boom. It came right back to, to two of those clicks in the morning. And, and, and this is what I mean. Relatively subtle changes to support the body having these dramatic shifts. You know, I, I, I want to go back to something because I got a text message from, from Damon John from Shark Tank the other day and actually just two days ago and I think it's very in line with what we're talking about and we had this discussion because I was like, wow, man. It seems like the more my message gets out there, the more hate and vitriol that I get. And I try to be so sincere and authentic about the message and like you try to be sincere and authentic about your music. And he wrote me this and I just want to get your thoughts on it. He said, and thank you, Damon. I didn't ask your permission to share this text message, but he said, you know Gary, only a person who's been there can understand this, but I'm here if you ever need advice, if you haven't already gotten it. You're about six months away from strong vocal resentment from your friends, your family and your staff. There's going to be theft by a trusted person and everyone with a two thousand dollar problem is going to want it to be your problem. You're going to get hit with fake lawsuits and a stressed relationship with your wife and get ready for the full media attack against you. It's all part of the rise, my friend. And I've felt all of those things. You know, I've had close friends of mine turn and kind of see this meteoric rise and not, not be excited for it, but actually be angry or, you know, maybe it's jealousy that it happened. I've seen the media attacks and, and the character assass to the extent that you've experienced that. Because one of the things I really, really love about you is you always talk about your family, your brothers, your mom, your cousins. Right before the podcast started, if we asked each other what would you do if you won the lottery? And I said, well, I probably call a few people and tell Them to fuck off. But. And you said I'd put all my family, my brothers, my cousins and everybody on a plane and we'd travel the world. And I take the people that I love the most and I go have all these great experiences. And it says, it says a lot.

About with a shaman inside doing spirit.

The Austin Powers plane with the rotating bed and all the funky colors. You'd have your shaman inside. Right. And for. For those people that don't know what a shaman is, what's a shaman?

It's like, like a little prayer temple person who believes, who follows the indigenous spiritual journeys. They. They live their lives based on the indigenous thoughts and, and. And lessons and everything. And they can do like spiritual healings, the equilibrium of the chakras. It's a lot of different spiritual things.

That I like to keep you grounded at 39, 000ft. But to the extent that you've experienced anything that Damon was talking about in there, like talk a little bit about that side of whether family, friends, the media, you know, is it hard for you to see some of the criticisms and not have it slow you down? Like how do you deal with it?

Yes. So I believe there's no good and bad people. I believe there is a frequence and we can go to the low frequency and start doing like some heavy dark things, but at the same time we can breathe and take. Take light in and go to the higher frequency and start having behaviors and thoughts that are like lighter and higher. And I don't believe there is like the evil man, the good man. I think we all have the two sides inside of us. So I think sometimes a lot of things connect us to this low frequency. And some people when they get down there, they're too concerned about what people think about us, what the other have and we don't have. Oh, this person was in the same environment as me and this person got more and I didn't. It's not fair. I want this person to fail. You know, and sometimes when the person sees you as something that she could be or he could be, but he couldn't, then this person start feeling frustrated and it's kind of like your. Your fault, you know, because you made it the person didn't. You guys had the same opportunities. I don't believe in same opportunities because I think every person come with comes with a different karma in their family, raised differently. And the racial thing also is a big problem. So I don't believe in same opportunities. But for a person who is in the low Frequency. This person thinks that you guys had the same opportunities and you made it, and I didn't.

Right.

Why? Why is he so good? Because for this person to accept that you are just good, it's hard for this person. It's gonna. This person's gonna feel down about it. It's like, oh, no. So he made it because he was this. This. He was this. He was that. Not because he's good. I am good.

He must have done something wrong. She must have done something wrong, I think.

And also, when you get to a point that more people are seeing you, more people have opinions. Not only the bubble that you are used to, not all. Not only the people that have the same knowledge on the subject that you have knowledge. So you're going to have opinions from the most different people in this world that have different, like, experience ways of thinking of cultures. And you gotta understand that it's part of their journey, you know? And also, talking about you makes. Because you're big, make them a little bigger. Sometimes in Brazil, there are person that they. They people that they want to have something to tell, to say about me, because if they say my name, they're going to become new somehow. They're gonna be in every site of news and Instagrams and this. These things. So it's important for them to have something to say. Or if there is something happening in this person's life and this person don't want people to talk about that, they're gonna try to find something to talk about me so they can get the attention to that subject and not the subject that people were starting to talk about. You know what I'm saying?

Right.

So people use these strategies a lot. And at some point in my life, in the beginning, I was a little bit not doing exactly this because I would never, like, pointed people down that in that way, in that sense. But maybe behind the scenes I would, like be pointing and thinking like this. And at some point I was like, no, no, wait, wait, wait. I'm too immersed in this competition thing, in this thing that for me to have, she cannot have, you know?

Right.

And then when I stopped, it doesn't kind of doesn't matter who has more success because you're feeling good, you know?

Yeah.

And I know that the amount of things that you need to do to be at the top are not pleasing for me anymore.

Right.

So I don't want to do it. So of course, for somebody that is new and fresh to this industry and they are. They are up to do it, they are in the mood to be dealing with these things. Like, for example, you asked me, oh, there are not people that you would say, fuck you. And I'm like, thinking, actually, no, because when you stop. Because I think that's it. When you're new and beginning, you're fresh, you're hungry, you have the. The energy to be spent paying attention to those. Slowing some people down and be like, okay, I'm gonna. You know. But when you're not. Not willing to deal with it anymore, because what is more important for you? Deal with all of this bullshit and be at the top, or not dealing with the bullshit, but maybe not be at the top. Oh, definitely maybe not be at the top.

Yeah. Yeah, I feel the same way. You know, one of the greatest pieces of advice, I was on a Jay Shetty podcast the other day, and he. He asked you these five questions at the end, and one of them is, what's the greatest piece of advice you were ever given? And you can only answer in one word or one sentence? And I sat there for a long time, and I said, I think the greatest piece of advice I was ever given was that if you want to shrink, your problems grow your purpose. Because when the purpose is bigger than the problem, your problems shrink. And I was. I think you're saying basically the same thing, right? My purpose is not to please everybody. And my. My reason for being on this world and what drives me and brings me happiness and my. My core competencies are not making everybody happy. You know, it's doing what brings me joy. And to the people that it brings joy to. I have this amazing connection to the people that it doesn't. That's their journey. Right.

And I agree.

And I think that's. I. I mean, it's. It took me 53 years. I'm 53 years old. To get to that point where I could actually commit to a purpose and not worry about the problems. And I love how you're oriented not towards the peak of the mountain anymore, but towards the peak of the mountain.

I think it's because I've been to the peak of the mountain and in my country.

Well, not really. You got stuck in the trees. You didn't even actually make it to the bottom of the mountain. But whatever. For the purposes of this analogy.

I think it's because I've been there. And yeah, maybe. I mean, not here in America, but if. If Maddie can tell you how was the experience when she went to Brazil, she could see how wizard for me and my country. It's like. It's A big thing. It's a big deal.

Yeah.

And I've been there.

You're like the Taylor Swift of Brazil. No doubt.

It's a big thing.

She's being very humble, guys, like. Like, this woman is a monster all over the world. But in Brazil, but in my country.

It'S like, yeah, you know, I don't even leave my house. And it's when you go there, you see all of these things that you were saying that your friend sent the message about, like, you start dealing with the best and the worst side of the human, because all of them want what you want. And what do you bring when you. When you have that? A bunch of people kissing your ass. A bunch of people that are hanging out with you just thinking about what you can bring to their lives. And then when you start dealing with that, you start separating. Okay, this person is to dance and have fun. This person is to have a great talk about my life. Oh, this person is to travel. That person. I can cannot say my secrets. So you start understanding. And it's not that I'm like, pulling everybody away. I'm just understanding that. And maybe these people might change. Right? Maybe this person that was, like, very interested in what you have can go to a higher frequency and all of a sudden be like, yo, I'm so different now. I don't care about, you know.

Yeah.

And. And the opposite them.

Or maybe even grown into them.

Exactly. And some people know, some people were so, like, worth of your trust, and all of a sudden they are.

You know, there's. There's so many. You know, when we get into these podcasts and we talk about. And we talk about health and wellness and biohacking and everything, there's always that line that nobody wants to cross, but everybody wishes somebody else would cross it and talk about it, but nobody does.

I always do.

I want to cross that line right now.

I'm like. And I feel so healthy.

And for the record, my daughter and my wife are in the room, so people are like, that's so inappropriate for him to do that on a podcast there. 10ft. 10ft away on the other side. Because. Because, like, you know. You know, there's. There's, like, wives that are like, okay, I hope my husband's about to tune in. And there's. Husband's going, I hope my wife is about to tune in. Because you're. You're so open with your relationships and your pleasures and your. The, you know, the intimacy behind the scenes. And I. I watched an Alex Earl podcast with you, and it's not really ultimate human appropriate, but we're going to go there. And you. One of the things that you talked about was like, hey, guys are doing a lot of things to women that they actually don't really like.

And like, I mean, it is. We got it.

So what are we doing? Like what. What are we doing?

I am not help a brother. I think everyone here is far. Everyone's here. Take a. Everyone's here. Have, you know.

Yeah.

And I've done all those things. People like to pretend they're. Oh, no, I don't. And we do everything. But anyways, I'm a healthier person nowadays because I don't. I'm not on birth control. I feel way better.

Yeah.

But at that time I was. And then I was in a copper yud, which I think it was also one thing that would make bad for me with this endometriosis thing because it makes you blood 50 times more.

Yeah.

But anyways, I was with that.

For me, you were seriously anemic.

Yeah, many, many, many, many years.

Yeah.

You know.

You know, my, my. My father is a salty old navy captain and Captain John Breca and very simple guy. You know, he was carpenter, Navy captain. Very, very regimented, very distant, disciplined. His favorite restaurant is Cracker Barrel. And true story. And then like when he wants a real treat, Outback Steakhouse. But, but he said to, he said. He gave me one of the best definitions of life that I've ever heard. And he just said it in passing to me one day and he said life is what happens to you when you're on your way to doing something else. And it's so true, right, what you're talking about here, it's, it's sort of what happens to you when you're on your way to doing something else. And if you, and if you realize that like all these little tipping points, you have a great life, but, you know, and you don't really get to design it and pick your destination and it just march straight to that destination, you know? And for you, what was. What was one of those something else's that took your life in a different direction? Like you were on your way. Like I love your story about I was on my way to creating music and climbing the mountain. Climbing the mountain. Climbing the mountain. Then I realized once I got there and came back down, I'm good. Right. I mean, have there been any of those other tipping points in your life that have taught you, like life lessons that you think have sort of changed the direction of, of your Life.

I think this unhealthy moment of me was the shift.

Right.

You know, when I got super unhealthy and I literally thought I was gonna die, Remember, I was like, I'm gonna priorities. Yeah, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. I was like desperated. And even I did a check for cancer.

I remember that.

Yeah, I did a check for cancer.

You're worried about everything.

And I was like, oh my God. And then I was like, what do I want to do? What do I want to do now? Oh my God. I want to travel with my family. I called my family. I was like, oh, I'm dying. I need to do this, I need to do that. And I saw how much time I wasted doing things, thinking about the goal, like, oh, I'm going to reach the that. So I'm doing this for that result. And I wasn't even enjoying in this moment here. So that means if I don't get the result, my life sucks.

Yeah.

Because I was doing everything looking at that point. So if I don't get that.

Living for a destination. Yeah. Not a journey.

But now I need to do things to make it work. And when I changed my mentality, literally, I can die tomorrow. I. If somebody comes here and say, you're dying tomorrow, I'll be like, cool. I did everything. I'm fine. Yeah, it was great. Everything.

Wow.

I would not change. I would just maybe look at the sky a little more. But actually I do look at the sky every day. So, like, I used to not care about these things and now if the moon is beautiful. I called Madison the other day and I was like, I was walking my dog and the moon was so beautiful.

I was like, I saw that, the orange one that was out there. It was low in the sky. I remember that day I called her.

I said, said, go look at the moon right now. And I spent so much time looking at the moon, I was like, wow, the moon is so beautiful. And I had a dinner that night and I got late because I was there for so long looking at the moon. I started crying. I was like, wow, it's so beautiful. For no reason. There's not. It doesn't have to have a reason for you to get emotional for you to cry, for you to get a healthy life, you know?

And I think nowadays I actually remember that night because the moon was. First of all, it was bright, bright orange. It was totally full and it was way down on the horizon. Almost looked like a sunrise or sunset. I. I actually went and grabbed my Son Dylan from the other room, like, Dylan, get out of here. And, and, and, and see this? I'm like, look at that. And he's like, yeah, that's, that's cool. And I'm like, get excited about that. You don't see that very often. We actually walked out on the balcony, started taking pictures of it. But I, I remember, I remember that.

Night and it's funny, I was like breathing like, ah, thank you. I was like, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For what? For everything. I think that changes everything when you're.

Actually being, when you're in that moment of being thankful. Like what, what are you, what are you really grateful for? In those like you see that.

The first thing I think, and it's immediate, my family. Cuz I have such a.

You talk about them all the time.

You're going to meet them. You met my mom?

Yeah, I met your mom. You're so cute. So little.

Speak English. You're gonna meet my dad, which is. He also doesn't speak English, but he tries to. He creates some words in his mind and he'll be talking to you.

Portuguese, English, little Spanish in there.

And I just think my family is a blessing. They are a blessing because for example, we, I come from very humble, poor family life background. And we all support each other. It doesn't matter. I see I was the poorest in the family and from, from us, me, my mom and my brother. It was the last special house. We had just one bedroom, that was it in the kitchen and the bathroom. And there was no living room in my house. And they would all come and sit down in the bedroom and happy birthday. I remember this birthday I had that. They came with a cake and they were all very supportive at one time. I was. Before being a singer, I was. I found this job at a store. I was like selling clothes. And in Brazil you sell. There was a humble popular store and I needed to sell more clothes to get more money. And they all saved some money to go to the store and buy with me.

Oh my gosh, that's so awesome.

They are so cute. And they all got one day reserved. One Saturday. Oh, this Saturday we're gonna go there. They got there, they said, we want to buy with Larisa. And they all.

Like her sales went through the roof all of a sudden.

Listen, they are so cute. And when, when I was a kid, they would all prepare my birthdays like that. Even though I didn't have a house. We would do the party at my auntie's house or my Uncle's house and they would like cut the, the, like the little images, pictures, drawings to put on the wall for me with my name. Yeah, they would do themselves.

And isn't it amazing when you're in that position, like that was. Those are still great memories for you and such great moments, maybe even some of the best, best ones. And as success has come, you actually look back on those memories. Like I, I find the same thing too as like when I stopped focusing on being wealthy and I started focusing on people's well being. That's when the wealth came. But then I just go back to still the greatest times are when I'm with my family, like when I'm just so, I want, I want more of those times. Like you know, traveling with my kids. They're like a traveling comedy show. You know, I'm very, I'm close to my ex wife. She, she gets along with my current wife. Like it's just so good when the families, it's super good part of your life.

And for me it's like I used to be saving money to be richer, richer, saving money, richer and now I'm like travel that bring all my family here, let me do my birthday party. Bring them. Let's get the, let's stay together, let's get a plane to Costa Rica. Let's get everybody together, let's go. I think that's my energy nowadays to just enjoy. Oh, if I don't have money tomorrow, I don't even know if I'm gonna be alive tomorrow. Yeah, imagine if I'm gonna fight because that's what I think like the richer man in the world. If tomorrow he decides, okay, I'm not gonna focus my time on being the richest, the richest man in the world. I'm just gonna enjoy life. In five years, he's not going to be the richest man in the world anymore. Somebody else is going to be the richest. Because he's not focused on that anymore. He's like focused on enjoying life. Is that going to delete the fact that he was the richest? No. Is that going to make him poor? No. He's going to be able to enjoy the same things. But people are so worried about the status the society, what they're going to think because oh, if I'm not the richest anymore, I'm going to be, I'm going to fail because that person has passed. Asked me, you know, and I think that's the mentality for so many things that we forget to live life. Imagine when we die. I believe there's something after.

Of course I do. I believe in that.

When we die, like, is God gonna look at our account? He's not gonna look, you know, not him. Because I said, I don't believe, guys, that God is a man. But is anybody gonna look at our bank account in the sky? Do we pay for it for. But no, we don't.

Yeah.

First spot in the sky. We don't.

I'd like to put my reservation down now, please.

That's what I think. Because, listen, for me, my purpose now in life is to be happy. Even if I get poor, even if I don't have any success, even if my songs don't hit number one, even if anything works well anymore in my life, I want to still be happy.

Yeah. You know, I, a pastor said to me one time, prayer is not. Prayer is about giving thanks for what you have, not asking for what you don't. And I hadn't thought about that phrase in years. I had an amazing pastor. He actually was a pastor in my first wedding, Pastor Ed. He was like a army special Forces guy, that football coach. And he became a pastor. And at that time in my life, he was very influential. And I remember that he said that, you know, it's, it's, Prayer is really not about. It's, it's about being thankful for what you have and not asking for what you don't. And for 20 years, I used to pray for all the things that I didn't have. Right? And, and now when I do my breath work in the mornings and I try to connect with God and, you know, I have a direct relationship with Jesus, I, I, I want him to know that I'm very thankful for what I have. And I always feel so good when I'm done.

So good, right with that, with this, the moon, that day.

Thankful.

I was doing that. I was just thinking, and I was like, oh, I didn't ask for anything. And I was like, what should I ask for? And I was like, yeah, I'm fine.

Prayer's not like a wish list, you know, it's not like, it's not like your Christmas card, you know? You know, you're like, you turn over to your parents. Here's, here's, here's what I'd like from Santa, you know, it's not, it's not like the Santa wish list. And, and I think when you, when you pray to just say thank you, even though you, you might not even feel like you're thanking someone who's receptive. I think the act of being content Enough.

Yeah.

To pause and say thank you, and then I'm truly grateful. Is. Is gives you a sense of calm and.

And attracts good things, too.

Yeah. I mean, you're a big believer in the universal law of attraction. I know that. Right. And, you know, I wasn't until, you know, years ago, I was. I was actually reading a physics journal, and there's a law in physics called constructive interference that says if two frequencies of equal wavelength meet, the size, the frequency doubles. And to me, I thought about, you know, the frequency that we put out there. Love, authenticity. And how the more authentic and the more loving you are, the more you attract love and authenticity. And. And. And I remember when I. When I sold my company, one of my partners, Grant Cardone, is a real estate billionaire. He said to me, your circle's about to get a whole lot smaller. And I was like, I wonder what he meant by that. That and your story is very similar because your circle is like your family, and you always talk about your brothers, your cousins, your mom, your dad, and I love that.

I brought my brother here, too.

You did?

I did.

Where is he?

No, not today. But he went. He went here to the other apartment.

We got to bring him here to do some biohacking.

He would love.

Yeah.

Because he had a surgery on his knee.

Okay.

And. And it's crazy.

Hydrogen bath.

Exactly. He. He. It's crazy, too, because I told Madison when he had the injury on his knee, and everyone told him that, oh, you're never going to be able to play again because he loves playing football. Footbally. And he was like, oh, I'm desperate, because he. He broke something. Did I. I told you right when.

He tore his acl. Oh, yeah, That's a common.

Yeah. And then it was very. Yeah. It was very hard for him and to.

Because he's an athlete. Like, he's very athlete, but he loves.

He loves. And he was super sad because it was like, oh, I love doing my exercises, My. My games, and we work together. And it's crazy because he did the surgery, and he was so disciplined with the food, the exercises, the physiotherapy, everything he needed to do. Every morning, he would do the practice, he would do the exercises. Now he's running, and it's been, like, two months.

Wow.

Something like that.

He's running again.

He's running. Oh, he's doing everything.

Yeah.

And people are like, wow, you just had a surgery, and in two months you're running. And. And he was like. Because he was so disciplined, and sometimes, if we believe that we're gonna make it if we want it, and we do it with no, like, anxiety, but we do, like, focused, respecting the time, discipline.

I also think that sometimes when something's taken from you and then you get it back, you're so much more appreciative. Like, every time I lose my wallet, I'm so happy to get my wallet back. And, like, I haven't gained anything. It's the same cash, the same driver's license, But I'm like, I so happy to have this back.

Yeah.

But, you know, so you have an injury like that, and then you have your. You have your health taken away from you, and then you're like, okay, I got it back. Now I'm going to start to take it serious. And I think, unfortunately, a lot of people don't even start their health journey until something like that happens. I mean, it happened to you, right? You are on your way to doing something else, and then your health made itself your priority, blew you up like a balloon, made you depressed, you know, and you're like, yeah.

And to do. To be honest, just, I. I'm so thankful that I got so sick because I never stopped to think about my mental health with the importance that it has until I got super sick. Because when I got super sick, I realized how unhappy I was, how depressed I was. And it's true. Now I look at some behaviors, and I was like, wow, I was so depressed.

Yeah.

I was so bad.

We talk about, like, I. I talk about this invisible fence around us where we filter things before they get to the temple. Temple, Right. Because you can either let your temple be the filter or you can filter things before it comes to the temple. And, like, you. You're. You're, like, so giddy, childish, like, with your. Your interest in your fascination, like, this. This intellectual curiosity you have about biohacking, which I. I love that you have that. What are some of your, like, favorite little biohacks that. That you're using? We know about the PMF map, but, like, what are some other ones?

I think the red light makes me. When. When we combine the mat with the oxygen with the red light, I feel. I feel new.

Yeah.

Because remember that time that I would. My period wasn't coming for months. I was like, yo, this is back.

When I was in downtown. Yeah.

And then I did the superhuman. My period came that same night.

Magnetism, oxygen, light, everything that we get from mother Nature. And I tell people, look, you don't even need to have. You don't need to spend five grand on a PMF mat, 100 grand on a red light bed, and five grand on a hypermax oxygen. If you have that money, definitely buy that before you buy a Range Rover. 100%. Your Range Rover will do absolutely nothing for you. But if you don't touch the surface of the earth, expose your skin to sunlight, learn how to do breath work, work those three things, and if you really want to jack it up, add a cold shower. You don't even need to buy a cold punch. Bang. Turns things around. So I guess the next, you know, question that I have is sort of shifting away from the biohacking is what's. What's next for Anita?

Just before I answer this question, the bio thing.

Oh, bioresonance. Yeah, that was great.

My mind shift after that and.

And how incredible is it what that machine can tell you about yourself?

Amazing.

It is. It's like, oh, you have this virus. Oh, you have a. A cavitation in this 11th molar. You have a.

And my was so good. It was like I woke up the next day, I was like, wow. It was this clarity of life. Yeah, it was perfect.

You know what it is? It's frequency, right? Because, you know, this goes back to this constructive, destructive interference thing. Two frequencies of equal wavelength meet, the size of the frequency doubles. Two frequencies of opposite wavelength meet, they cancel out. So why can't we use frequency to tune in the body, right?

My life changed after that. I literally. And we did twice, right? Twice only.

Yeah.

And I woke up like, oh, I'm living wrong. Wait, let me live right now.

This is so great. This is so amazing.

So what is next for me?

What's next for you?

I have no idea and I don't care. I'm so relaxed.

Because for me, you really are, by the way.

I mean, very relaxed.

You are a completely different human than the one I met a few years ago. Really? And it's so amazing to be a part of this journey.

I know, it's crazy. I'm about to turn 31 this month, March. And it's so funny because everybody's asking, what is next? What is next? I mean, I have an album coming that I'm super excited. I did this album, this album that I'm releasing now, I wrote when I was in the hospital because I was like, you know what? I think I'm gonna die. I'm just gonna do an album that if I die, I don't care. It's just something I love. And because usually as singers, we are pushed and pressured by everyone not A label thing. It's everyone, even ourselves, to be successful, to be in the charts, to be top one, top ten, a hit, whatever. And as I was gonna die, in my mind, I didn't care. I didn't need to care about these things of the world because I was gonna die. The album be like, oh, it was great to do this album. I loved it doesn't matter what happens after. And I did this album with, with this energy and I love it so much. And I'm gonna put out and I'm alive and it's great, but I don't know.

So it's already recorded.

It is. I. I recorded when I was in the hospital. I was doing like ozone every day in my blood.

Wow.

Every day.

So good.

And then I was like, you know what? I. Instead of going to the hospital, because I was in a hospital for one month and then I was coming back every day and I was like, you know what? Instead of coming back every day, I'm just gonna rent a house, put everybody.

There, my family again, everybody and the studio.

So I was recording the songs and getting the treatments done. So it was great. And then the album's ready and I'm gonna put out. But that's not what's coming next. This is coming. This is professional and single.

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Well, I have this coming, but this is like work stuff, and that's not my number one concern. I don't even have a concern. So I don't know what's going to happen. I might. Maybe I can release and be like, I want to travel the world. Or I can just be like, no, actually I want to do a tour. Oh, no, actually I want to do a movie. It doesn't.

I don't know what about personally? Like, that's all professionally, but like, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Because what comes next? It's crazy because people ask that and we always talk about work. And that's why I'm like, I don't know. Because what if I find the love of my life and I want to have a baby? And then I'm like, okay, that's it. We don't know. We don't know. So I'm so, like. I used to be very unpredictable. Unpredictable. That's it that you say? Yeah, it's unexpected. I used to just do things like, now I want to do this.

And you just spontaneous.

Yeah, very. I was always like that, creating chaos. At some point in my life, I was so pressured about, oh, the success is she gonna maintain this? That I forgot that all the things that I got was because I was like, no. Oh, I liked. Because here's how my international career started. A song of mine in Portuguese was popping in Spain. They asked a radio, asked me to go there to a festival. I said, I don't know, Spain, let's go. I went to Spain and then there I didn't know how to communicate with anybody because I didn't speak Spanish. That was like. Like seven to eight years ago. It was. No, actually 10 years ago. And then I didn't speak Spanish. And I was like, jesus, I don't understand anything people are saying. And I was so mad that when I landed in Brazil, I called Spanish school, and I said, I need to learn.

Really?

That's how I learned Spanish.

Really?

And then I started to learn Spanish. I was like, I like this because it's easier to learn if you listen to music. So I was listening to Spanish, Spanish music. I was like, I like it. I want to do this type of music. And then I started to sing in Spanish because of that, and it was not like, oh, I want to be international. No. I was like, cool with them. Let me do it. And then I was like, in this Latin thing, singing. And I came to this awards here in Miami. I was like, it was my first time here. I was like, so cool. I want to sing in English. And that was it. You know, it was not that. And I have this thing sometimes I'm in a club and I meet somebody. I get into this person's cars. Let's go. Let's go out. It's so spontaneous and cool at the same time. So I was going to this trip.

Yeah.

And I didn't have company. I saw a random person at the party. I said, do you want to come with me? The person said, I don't have money. I said, I have. So we went to the trip. So when I got there hours later, not hours, but maybe one day after, I was like, this person is so annoying. Why did I do this? So I was at the street at the city.

Spontaneity goes up.

And I was at the city, and then this group of fans came to ask for a picture. And I said to them, and they were so fun, and I said, yo, what are you guys doing here? And I went on vacations. Until when? And they were gonna stay until the whole period that I was staying. I said, said, do you guys have an extra room in your house?

No. No. And you literally went to stay with these fans. Dude, I love it.

I want to stay with the fans. And it's crazy, because they said, yeah, there is one bedroom that is like, too bad. And this guy is there, but the other bed is empty. I said, I'm fine. I'm staying with him. I went, I stay with this other bag.

Is he attractive?

He was there. And then it was so much fun. I stayed there. And she was like, because I found some person to this other person, okay, sleep with. I said, you should hook up with this person. And the person told me, but where are you gonna sleep? I said, I'm gonna figure out, guys, you have an extra bedroom. And then I stay There at the house.

God, that's.

They became friends of mine really. They helped me with other stuff that I. I needed help once and it was crazy.

That is such a metaphor for life. It's what happens to you when you're doing. You're on your way to doing something spontaneous.

Because then I went to do a concert and my private jet couldn't leave anymore because of the rain. That. That specific airport couldn't leave and then we didn't. I had a very. The most important important concert off carnival and I wouldn't be able to get there because my airplane couldn't go to the next airport.

Oh boy.

This guy from this house, right? Lent me his airplane.

Lend you his airplane?

His airplane?

Why? Because yours wasn't big enough or something.

And the person told me but where are you gonna sleep? I said that I'm gonna figure out, huh?

Well, how could his airplane take off and not yours?

No, because his airplane was in another place and could land in the the airplane like two hours from there.

Ah.

And mine couldn't leave. You know, there was a city like.

So you went to his airport.

Let's guys, we have an extra bedroom. And then I stay there at the house.

God, that's.

They became big, big friends of mine really. They helped me with other stuff that I. I needed help once and it was crazy.

That is such a metaphor for life. It's what happens to.

Suppose it's here in Tam or Naples, right? It's car. You drive two hours, you get this plane that can land in Naples but here in Miami airport is. It's raining. Ah. You know.

So you drove to his airplane and went oh my gosh, what a.

Now I was gonna lose incredible so many. I was gonna lose everything. Y cuz it's crazy.

It's so. So in some ways, like that annoying friend was a positive. Because if you're having a. No, that's what I'm saying. That's so cool because you probably would have stayed with her if you were having a great time.

Everything.

So if my daughter went on that trip, you would have missed your most important concert in Carnival. Everything could have cost you millions.

Listen, everything is positive.

You when you're doing. You're on your way to doing something else spontaneous.

Cuz then I went to do a concert concert. And my private jet couldn't leave anymore because of the rain. That that specific airport couldn't leave. And then we didn't. I had a very. The most important important concert off carnival and I wouldn't be able to get there at the end of the day.

That's so awesome.

Yeah, everything's fine.

That is. Oh, my God, Anita, you've been. You're amazing. I feel like we could talk for hours and hours and hours. I thought we were going to talk a lot more about sex, but, but we'll, we'll have to come back on another podcast.

Well, you should bring treatments here for the intimate life because my airplane couldn't go to the next airport. Oh, boy, this guy.

Well, I mean, I just, I, I, I know. You throw so many good nuggets out there for people. Like what, what are, what are. Like, what are three things guys are doing in the bedroom that we should not be doing?

Let me think. Like, wait, because it's been a minute that I'm, I'm doing. I'm dealing with some very spiritual from this house.

Right.

Lend me his airplane.

Lend you his airplane?

His airplane?

Why? Because yours wasn't big enough or something.

Moment. Right.

Okay, so let's.

Let me remember there are three things when they get to even anxiety.

Well, how could his airplane take off and not yours?

Aspirated.

Too much touching.

No.

Moving too fast.

Moving too fast. I hate when they move too fast. It's like a rabbit. I hate the rabbit moves. No, because his airplane was in another place and could land in the.

You like the, you like the smooth tortoise.

Until the moment. That is so fun. There was this one time I went to my house and I said, dad, with this guy, the airplane, like, two hours from there. Ah. And mine couldn't leave. You know, there was a city like.

So you went to his airport.

Let's suppose it's here in Tam or Naples. Right. It's a car you drive two hours, you get. And I like him, but it's not good. And then he sat down with the guy and gave him all the. He said, come here, let's have a talk. He sat down and literally taught the guy every single thing he should do. It was so funny. And then he came to me and said the list of things that he told the guy to do. The guy followed. Zero.

The Godfather zero. I can't imagine talking to my daughter's boyfriend and being like, hey, bro, come here, let me give you.

No, he was very.

Actually, just. Even the thought of it is making me angry.

Specific.

My dad naked on a cold day. It's out of my mind.

My dad was like, when you're eating, you do this, you do that. When you like, specific.

Specific.

Get this plane that can land in Naples, but Here in Miami airport is. It's raining. Ah. You know specific and. And the guy followed zero of the instructions. I got so mad when a chick's.

Dad is like hey bro, this is what you need to you follow it.

My dad did. My dad did it. And I was like, yeah, my dad is great. I was so I'm have your dad.

On the podcast to give us.

My dad like Dr. Ruth, he so much fun. I think that and I think be talking to be asking. I hate the questions. Do you like it? Do you like it? You feel it? You like it? Am I gonna stop and say no actually let's talk. No, I don't.

Yeah. Those are pretty open ended questions. You like it? Do you feel it? Yeah.

Right. You should have some. It's actually equipment's here for just.

Just coming from. So you drove to his airplane and went oh my gosh, what a.

Now I was gonna lose incredible. So many. I was gonna lose everything.

Yeah, because is.

It's crazy.

It's so. So in some ways like that annoying friend was a positive because if you're having a group.

That's what I'm saying.

That's so cool because you probably would have stayed with her if you were having a great time.

Everything.

So if my daughter went on that trip, you would have missed your most important concert in carnival. Everything could have cost you millions.

Listen, everything is positive.

A guy. It's actually a statement where like you like it. That's like it's not actually. We're not actually asking. No, but I'm, I'm now I'm giving you advice. Like we're not actually asking you a question. We're telling you that you like it. That's like in the end of the day. Isn't that so awesome? Yeah.

Everything's podcast.

That is. Oh my God, Anita, you've been. You're amazing. I feel like just as freaky as that sounds, we're like, you like it. It's not like you like it.

That's you.

No, like we could talk for hours and hours and hours. I thought we were going to talk a lot more about sex, but we'll. We'll have to come back on another podcast.

Well, you should bring treatments here for the intimate life. They're asking, they're expecting an answer.

It makes us feel better. We're like, you like it.

They expect an answer.

Okay.

You should give like, like the best condoms. The best. You should have like equipment here for this.

Well, I mean I just, just I. I know you throw so many good Nuggets out there for people. Like, what. What.

What are.

Like, okay.

Because you always have, like, the best water, the best everything.

Yeah. I haven't gone down. I haven't gone down the intimacy route. That's why I've got you here.

You should go. You should get there. You should get the equipment and the products for us to know, like, what's the best. The best lubricant, the best con. You know?

Yeah, yeah. The best condoms, the best lubricant, the.

Most for the pH.

Yeah.

So we know exactly what's the good ones. To not dysregulate our ph. That's great advice. We want to know.

All right, the lubricant, the condoms. Don't. Don't go too fast. Stop with the questions. Even if we think they're a statement guys, they're interpreting it as a question. So when, like, oh, you like it, they think that you're asking them if they like it. What are three things guys are doing in the bedroom that we should not be doing? Doing.

Let me think. Like, wait, because it's been a minute.

So we're gonna scratch that. And then what's.

I'm. I'm doing. I'm dealing with some very spiritual moment right now.

Okay. So let's.

Let me remember.

What's number three?

Something that also, when you're unhealthy, you don't feel like having sex.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

The most unhealthy at once. I wanted to have sex.

Not doing the boom boom. Yeah, it is doing the boom boom. So, all right, what would you say is number. Number three?

There are three. Number three. Let's see things when they get to anxiety, and then you go separate it.

Too much touching.

No moving too fast.

And you can always seek advice from your partner's dad, which is a little odd.

My dad is the best.

That's. That's.

Oh, my God. My dad is the best. Okay, let me think.

You said one time. I'm not doing this.

Moving too fast. I hate when they move too fast. It's like a rabbit. I hate that.

Yeah, that's really bad.

I'm trying to think of new ones. I hate the rabbit moves.

You like the. You like the smooth tortoise.

Until the moment. That is so fun. There was this one time I went to my house and I said, dad, with this guy.

Okay, we'll think of new ones. Like. Like an ice cream cone. Not like you're nibbling through steak.

Oh, my God. When they're too drunk, it's so bad.

Heavy breathing, lots of laying on you.

And I like him, but it's not good. And then heavy breathing and also the stinking breathing of like alcohol. It's smell. He sat down with the guy and gave him all this. He said, come here, let's have a talk. He sat down and literally taught the guy every single thing. I was like, tequila, it's not, you know.

Yeah, brush your teeth.

Not.

I mean, that's pretty simple.

No, but it's inside. But it's inside.

It's coming out. Yeah.

Oh, I don't like that. I do. It's so funny. And then he came to me and said, oh, my God.

Okay.

I also don't feel like. When it feels like it's.

Especially if they're like. Like you like it? Yeah, that's like you've hit two of the three right there.

The list of things that he told the guy to do. The guy followed zero.

The guy followed zero. I can't imagine talking to my daughter's boyfriend and being like, hey, bro, come here, let me give you.

No, he was very.

Actually just. Even the thought of it is making me angry. So I'm gonna get that out of my mind.

I also don't feel like it's. It's. I don't like when it feels like you are in a training at the gym.

Yeah, yeah.

Positions.

Yeah, you like stick to one.

Wow. You're not stick to one. But like, we're not trying to do a performance for the Olympic.

My dad Thatcher naked on a cold day. It's out of my mind.

My dad was like, when you're eating, you do this, you do that. When you like specific, specific, specific. And. And the guy followed zero of the instructions. I got so mad when a chick's dad.

Dad is like, hey, bro, this is what you need to. You follow. Yeah.

You know, it's too much, I think.

All right, so. So too many positions too fast. And stop it with the questions. All right, that is great advice, but.

You should bring equipments for us.

Yeah, I am. And, and I am going to stock up on condoms, lubricants. I'm going to go deep down the rabbit hole of the most sensitive condoms.

My dad did. My dad did it. And I was like, yeah, my dad.

Smoked the best, best lubricants, maybe even the best toys, vitamins, things that you.

Can take to make you.

Oh, yeah, like PT140.

One thing. There's one thing that is one thing that all, all the pregnant women say after they have babies. They don't feel like having sex anymore. You never heard of that?

I. Well, I'm sure there's like a, you know, a period.

Every woman tells me that after they have babies, they're like, I mean, I.

Think you shoot a watermelon out of a BB gun and you know there's going to be a period that, you know.

No, but like a year later, oh, okay. They still feel like, I, I don't want it. I don't feel like, all right, I'm.

Going to biohack this one. This is going.

Every friend of mine says that it's great. I was telling your dad on the.

Podcast to give us great dad.

Like, Dr. Ruth is so much fun. I think that. And I think be talking to be asking. I hate the questions. Do you like it?

This is going on my list.

I don't know if it's a hormone thing. I don't know what it is. But they always said all my friends that had babies, they're like, yeah, after we have babies, we're like, I'm done with this. I don't want to have sex.

You know what? That's a great one. And I get, I get accused a lot of doing too much for men. So I'm, I'm actually really purposely trying to do more for, for women. I'm. So I'm gonna get our ob GYN and I'm gonna get a sex therapist on and we're gonna figure out if.

Do you like it? You feel it? You like it? Am I gonna stop and say no? Actually, let's talk. No, I don't.

Yeah, those are pretty open ended questions. You like it? Do you feel it? Yeah.

Right?

The fastest way postpartum to return to.

An active sex life that all the women would love. Love.

We're gonna break the Internet with that one.

All the women will love that because that's one thing after they have babies. That's. I mean, I never had a baby, but all my friends that had, they say you should have some equipment here.

For just, just coming from that. Yeah. They go even a year, they feel bad a guy. It's actually a statement where like you like it. That's like, it's not actually. We're not actually asking.

They don't feel like having sex and it's super crazy.

Okay, well, we're going to do it.

I'll be watching when I have mine.

Maybe I'll have you back on when I have the therapist and the ob gyn.

Loved it.

Nina, you are absolutely amazing. I mean, this, this podcast is Going to break the Internet, you know? No, but I'm. I'm. Now I'm giving you advice. Like, we're not actually asking you a question. I ask every guest the same question at the end of the podcast. There's no right or wrong answer to this, but I ask every guest what it means to them. Them to be an ultimate human. What does it mean to you to be an ultimate.

I think to be an ultimate human is to align your actions with your mind and your state.

We're telling you that you like it. That's like.

Of, like how you're feeling. Then you are an ultimate human, because when you're aligned, like, everyone. Everything is on the same point, you know, like, we're on the same page. I think that's it. Because sometimes we feel like we want something, but our behavior and our actions are doing the opposite.

Wow. So good. Nina, thank you so much for your time today. This has been amazing. I loved it too. And as always, guys, that's just science. Just as freaky as that sounds.

We're like, do not.

You like it?

It.

No, it's not like you like it.

Maybe that's you. No, no, no, no. They're asking, they're expecting an answer.

It makes us feel better. We're like, you like it?

They expect an answer. Okay, you should give, like, the best condoms. The best. You should have, like, equipment here for this.

Okay.

Because you always have, like, the best water, the best everything.

Yeah, I haven't gone down. I haven't gone down the intimacy Right route. That's why I've got you here.

You should go. You should get there. You should get the equipment and the products for us to know, like, the. What's the best. The best lubricant, the best, you know?

Yeah, yeah. The best condoms, the best lubricant, the.

Most for the ph. Da, da, da.

Yeah.

So we know exactly what's the. The good ones. To not disregulate our ph. That's great advice. As we want to know.

All right, the lubricant, the condoms. Don't. Don't go too fast. Stop with the questions. Even if we think they're a statement guys, they're interpreting it as a question. So when you're like, oh, you like it? They think that you're asking them if they like it. So we're gonna scratch that. And then what's. What's number three?

Something that also, when you're unhealthy, you don't feel like having sex.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

The Most unhealthy at once.

Not doing the boom boom. Yeah. So, all right. What would you say is number. Number three.

Number three. Let's see.

And you can always seek advice from your partner's dad, which is a little odd. I found.

My dad is the best.

That's. That's a new one.

Oh, my God. My dad is the best.

That's a new one for me.

Okay, let me think.

You said one time not doing this.

I hate that.

Yeah, that's really bad.

I'm trying to think of new ones.

Okay. We'll think of nuance. Like, like an ice cream cone. Not like you're nibbling through steak.

Oh, my God. When they're too drunk, it's so bad.

Heavy breathing, lots of laying on you.

Heavy breathing. And also the stinking breathing of, like alcohol. It smells like tequila. It's not, you know.

Yeah.

Brush your teeth. Not.

I mean, it's pretty simple.

No, but it's inside. But it's inside.

It's coming out. Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, I don't like that you're like.

Oh, I don't like that.

Okay.

I also don't feel like. When it feels like it's the.

Especially if they're like, you like it. Yeah. That's like you've hit two of the three right there.

I also don't feel like it's. It's. I don't like when it feels like you are in a training at the gin.

Yeah. Yeah. Positions you like, stick to one.

Wow. You're not. Stick to one. But like, we're not trying to do a performance for the Olympics.

Yeah.

You know, it's too much, I think.

All right, so. So too many positions too fast and stop it with the questions. All right, that is great advice, but.

You should bring equipments for us.

Yeah, I am. And. And I am going to stock up on condoms, lubricants. I'm going to go deep down the rabbit hole of the most sensitive condoms. The best, best lubricants, maybe even the best toys, the vitamins, things that you.

Can take to make you.

Oh, yeah, like PT140.

One thing. There's one thing that is one thing that all. All the pregnant women say after they have babies, they don't feel like having sex anymore. You never heard of that?

I. Well, I. I'm sure there's like a, you know, a period.

Every woman tells me that after they have babies, they're like, ah.

I mean, I think if you shoot a watermelon out of a BB gun and, you know, there's going to be a period that, you know.

No, but like, a year later.

Oh, okay.

They still feel like, I. I don't want it. I don't feel like.

All right, I'm gonna biohack this one. This is going.

Every friend of mine says that this.

Is going on my list.

I don't know if it's a hormone thing. I don't know what it is. But they always said, all my friends that had babies, they're like, yeah, after we have babies, we're like, like, I'm done with this. I don't want to have sex.

You know what? That's a great one. And I get. I get accused a lot of doing too much for men, so I'm. I'm actually purposely trying to do more for. For women. I'm. So I'm going to get our ob GYN and I'm going to get a sex therapist on, and we're going to figure out the fastest way postpartum to return to an active sex life that.

All the women will love.

We're going to break the Internet with that one.

All the women will love that because that's one thing. After they have babies, that's. I mean, I never had a baby, but all my friends that had. They say that they go even a.

Year, they feel bad.

They don't feel like having sex. It's super crazy.

Okay, well, we're gonna do it.

I'll be watching when I have mine.

Maybe I'll have you back on when I have the therapist and the ob gyn.

Loved it.

Nina, you are absolutely amazing. I mean, this. This podcast is gonna break the Internet. You know, I ask every guest the same question at the end of the podcast. Guest, there's no right or wrong answer to this, but I ask every guest what it means to them to be an ultimate human. What does it mean to you to be an ultimate.

I think to be an ultimate human is to align your actions with your mind and your state of, like, how you're feeling. Then you are an ultimate human, because when you're aligned, like, everyone, everything is on the same point. You know, like, we're on the same page. I think that's it. Because sometimes we feel like we want something, but our behavior and our actions are doing the opposite.

Wow. So good. Nina, thank you so much for your time today. This has been amazing. I loved it, too. And as always, guys, that's just science.