Gary BreckaHuman Biologist & Longevity Innovator

WHY HEALTH GOT SO COMPLICATED with DR. JORDAN RUBIN

18 Aug 2026 · 1 min

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In this interview, Dr. Jordan Rubin (Speaker A) and health strategist Gary Brecka discuss the polarized debates between vegan and carnivore diets, arguing that biblical guidance should inform nutritional choices. Rubin cites his personal experience of conquering cancer, presenting his recovery as a replicable method that can give hope to the seriously ill. Both speakers criticize modern food processing and advocate a return to the simple, whole‑food diets of previous generations—what they call “grandparent‑style” eating. They distill the conversation into concrete actions for listeners, culminating in a recommendation of Rubin’s “Ultimate Human” program as a practical pathway to better health.

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We live in a world where there's so much disparity. Vegans say that animals are killing you and the planet, and the carnivore dieters say that plants are trying to kill you. But I believe the Bible over science. So if Jesus was referred to as the bread of life, I need to find out what bread is the healthiest because it can't be bad.
I think the combination of that modern, realistic view of what the data says and what the Bible actually dictates To me, makes an enormous amount of sense.
When someone asks me why did I get sick, my answer is so you don't have to. So people who are desperate and dying can have hope that they can be well like I am. All in all, I was able to conquer cancer in a way that could be replicable for other people.
I think the framework of this though is taking the power back. It's really just teaching people how to get back to the basics.
We've really done a lot to destroy our food, and so I think what you and I do more than anything is give people permission to eat like their grandparents would have, is logical.
Just to distill this entire conversation down to some practical things that people could do. So someone's listening to this podcast, what do they do tomorrow?
I have gone on in the last 18 years to help many, many, many people. And what I would recommend today— Ultimate Human.