We Did Not Get Indoctrinated

Gianna Miceli and Patricia "The Silver Stacker" frame the U.S. as a $31.4 trillion company and argue citizens should resist taxes and build financial sovereignty. They share a story of a $92,000 tax claim reduced to zero, compare silver investments to Trump baby accounts, and plan an "Abolish the IRS" tour for 2027.
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But we have our phone.
A helping hand.
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Hello everyone, this is the Gianna Miceli Show with Patricia the Silver Stacker. Hello, how are you? Look at Patty, Patty's got herself A little glow light, a little logo glow. I absolutely love it. I got a new bling. Did you see my? I got an obnoxious wrapper type bling, and everyone loves it. I get tremendous compliments on it. So that was the opening from the Patrick Bet David Vault Conference, which happened last week, and I did attend, and I was really blown away when they played this. The reason I started going to the Vault Conference is what—that's my third one—was because the first time when I went to one, this was right before the Trump election in twenty.
24.
Yeah, 24. 24. And I'd really been sick of conferences, and I'm like, if this conference sucks, I'm never going back again. But it was fantastic because Patrick came out and he said, you all are the forgotten people because big corporations get tax cuts and poor people get free shit and we get nothing. I don't want anything. That's okay with me. I don't want anything. There's so many great lines to pull out of there, like The greatest company in the world— the U— it's very funny he said United States of America, but it's really the United States. Sorry, Patrick. The world, uh, was founded by people who refused to pay a bully's tax. And there's 160 million people in this country that bend over and pay taxes despite what's gone on all year long. And Patty's gonna expose some real serious shit that she uncovered in her very simple and ordinary American woman job that You're not angry enough. Tim Pool posted today, I'm really sick and tired of seeing people like, no, you're not angry enough. You're not angry enough because this is all going on. Shout out to IRS Medic and our friend Brett, who we had some powwows with last week. Some other people that are also powwowing. Brett won a $92,000 claim in U.S. tax court, which is not real court, but sometimes if you're in a situation, that's the better route to take. It took him a couple of years and he knocked a $92,000 claim. from the tax court down to zero. Zero. Why? Because he stood up, because he was proactive, because he was smart. So I looked up that case and we started talking, and we're doing some new and improved things into my IRS class based on some things. I always want to be the most offensive and— not offensive, but on the offense, you know, on the offense and proactive person.
Yes.
Because it was just in 2025 that, uh, From IRS Medic, I think. Did I load this? Um, let me see. No, not that one. He had a post or a screenshot that like something's been different in the last year with the IRS because we never heard from them. And then they have, uh, they, they send out letters once you quit. They don't want you to quit. They send out the scary letters. And I have an entire course about the scary letters. Patty quit 4 or 5 years ago and she gets scary letters.
Mm-hmm.
So, you know, we recommended administrative defense against them, and so we built that. And eventually Patty got a couple letters, and what happened?
They went away.
They went away.
They just went away.
We recommend you respond and put them on the record, because only in the quasi-government of the IRS is like they could ignore you and it doesn't have any meaning. But if you ignore them, oh, they acquiesced, they didn't say anything. So, right.
Along with the— along as they just make shit up.
They just make shit up. And the thing is, in every IRS claim, in every traffic ticket claim, in every court case that I help people with, I cannot shout this enough: there's always legal fuckery. And everyone knows what I'm talking about. I want to say the right term, but I can't because I'm on the internet. I must be friendly. But people get it. This entire LegalFockery profile that I have and my LegalFockery University began because not only 20 years ago when I stood up to my first traffic ticket where they ran my plate, this was 20 years ago, they ran my plate and a paralegal taught me this. Well, you know how he knew your license was suspended? Because New York State doesn't send you a notice, which there was no legit reason for my license to be suspended. They don't tell you it was suspended for 18 months. I would never drive around with a suspended license. I drive around now with no license because I dug into the system. You can have it. No, thank you. I don't want to be in it. And in the COVID I started asking questions and it's all legal fuckery. And what legal fuckery is, is like, there is a propaganda campaign and a paradigm that, uh, well, just because they say something— damn, I had something else I wanted to post today. I didn't put it up in the thing here. Just because they say something doesn't make it true. Doesn't make it true. So Once you dig in and you know how to research, which I became a paralegal this year because I don't want to rely on anybody for anything after we've had a few bozos come in and out of helping us in the university. I don't have to rely on anybody and the university is on fire. We are on fire with our responses. That PBD opening was really amazing. When I showed it to Patty and we started talking, Why? Why, God? Why? Why isn't everyone saying what we say? Who are you to rule over me? That does not mean that we go around breaking laws and harming people, but we are above the government. There are so many people on social media like, well, is he allowed? Are you allowed to defend? Are you allowed to defend yourself? Are you serious? Are you people actually serious? Are you— the government does not allow me— the state of Florida, Ron DeSantis, and the corporation that is the state of Florida does not allow me to defend myself. However, however, I got some shady characters where I live, and I carry some pepper spray. So I looked it up. I looked it up. Let me see, because I have pepper spray, and I have a pepper spray gun. Now, if I have a homeless jackass bothering me on my exercise walk in the morning in my very luxurious penthouse area, and Someone far away, kind of far away, were to see me hold my gun, because I'm gonna say, get the fuck away from me or I'm gonna blast your face. But it is a plastic pepper spray gun. It does have a red laser light on it though that scares the shit out of people. I've never shot it.
It looks real.
Well, they see the laser and they don't know. But my thoughts are, what if someone saw me in this position? So I go looking up. Oh, well, they're Statutes about the pepper spray. Oh, really? Really? Legislation of Florida. So I'm allowed according to them, which I will never acquiesce to their statutes. I don't care what their statutes are. I have private rights that are above their statutes, but the statute allows you 2 ounces. That's 2 shot glasses. Okay. What if I have multiple creatures? 2 ounces. And in my pepper spray gun, it only has, it has military-grade pepsin and it's in a little ball. And when it hits somebody, it's supposed to crack open and gel and then flood their face with fumes, although I've never shot it yet.
Why? I would test it.
Well, I don't want to waste one. You know, I did shoot— they do give you some sample ones, and I shot one the other day because I never— but it doesn't shoot out anything. It just pops. I really don't understand the point of it. I don't want to waste them, you know, but I might have to just so I know. But there's statutes about limiting this, and I'm like, get the freak out of here. And Florida has, uh, concealed carry. You don't need a CCW anymore. And a lot of people online will be like, Oh, I've got my CCW, so therefore, oh, I'm exercising my Second Amendment right. No, you're not. No, you're not. You have gone into the sheriff's office and you have given up your fingerprints voluntarily, and those go to the FBI, and you paid money, and you have to be of a certain age, and you have to have certain types and kinds of guns and things, and you have limitations. So you have acquiesced to a statute, which means you have waived your Second Amendment right. So We want to know why isn't everyone saying, who are you to rule over me? This is my little book. I just came out with this book. That's a whole nother topic. This book is for business owners. Why were you told to close your business in the COVID This book blows that up, but I don't want to get off topic because the Patrick Bet-David video asking all the right questions. Okay, this corporation, John, I think he said 30, generates $33.3 or $31.3 trillion. Yeah, that's not your taxes. That's not your taxes. We know that your taxes go to Somali fraud and Medicaid fraud and hospice— uh, what did that— was the one in California, um, hospice fraud.
Mm-hmm.
And so, Patty, we're gonna go into some of your amazing stories that came up this week. Now, Patty, we were just sitting here talking before we We decided to go and said, with the stories we're going to talk about, hey, you should tell Nick Shirley. And I'm like, oh, you can get Shirley— Nick Shirley on Manect because I have Manected Nick Shirley. You can get him for $100, ask him a question. So we're going to turn him on to some of the fuckery that Patty has uncovered in her regular gal job working for the Baltimore County School System.
Yes, public schools.
Patty, let's start with The vaccine story, the amount of children that have entered your school system this year.
The last 2 weeks before school started, there were 500 special needs children that were entered into the system that had to be placed on buses. 500.
Do you remember what it was last year or in the last several years?
It's been increasing every year, but this is the highest number yet.
Okay. Yeah. And you are— you deliver only special needs? Because how many kids go on your bus?
Um, I think I probably have 16, 5, 16 kids this year.
Tell everybody what has to happen to these children once they get on the bus.
Well, you know, they get on the bus, they, you know, of course they have assigned seats and they have to be, uh, put in kind of like a restraint because they are special needs. But all of these kids seem to have the same disability I've noticed this year. Yeah. It's the same disability, and that disability is they can't talk. They cannot talk. Now, the area that I transport in is probably, I would say, low-income Section 8 housing, um, which means they're probably on state-funded healthcare. They have to follow their protocols within the vaccine schedules.
You want to play in the sandbox and get free shit? Yeah, well, the rules— go ahead, tell us what you discovered this week.
And, you know, All these kids get on the bus, and I look at the woman that, that, that works with me, and I'm like, they all have the same problem. They, they can't talk. They understand somewhat, but they cannot talk.
And they act out?
Uh, they do at times when they get frustrated. Um, you know, when they can't communicate, when it seems that they, you know, when they start acting out. Yeah. So they have a hard time communicating. Um, but they, they all cannot talk, which is What's making that happen?
And you had a conversation with one of the mothers. If she did not vaccinate her child, what happens?
Yes. So she was telling me that she had asked me, you know, how's he doing on the bus? And I said, you know, he's doing okay. She said, well, you know, he's nonverbal. I said, yes, I understand that he is. And she said, you know, when he was 18 months old, he used to talk a lot. She said he would mimic everything that I said. And she said, then after that round of vaccines, when he was 18 months old, he stopped talking. And I said— and then she says to me, she says, well, you know what the conspiracy is. I said, well, I don't think it's a conspiracy at all. I think it is the vaccines. I didn't go into detail about all the other children having the same disabilities. Right. They all have it. But yeah, but they all can't talk. It's, it's, it's very disturbing. I've been this— I've been driving for almost 30 years. And I'm going to say that, I'm going to say probably within the last 10, I've seen the numbers escalate in these, in the, in these children's disabilities.
And let's talk about that. These children don't speak English. They're all foreigners, third world country foreigners. Go ahead, tell us your firsthand experience.
You know, they are, they, they live in these developments, just like I was telling Gianna, it took me a little bit to kind of figure this out. So They live in these very nice developments. They get front door service. Most kids that are in a, what they call it, a walking, a walking school. So there will be a school in an area that, that are around these developments, and all the kids have to walk to the school.
Normal kids?
Normal kids. Okay. Normal kids, you know, except if, if they have disabilities. They get picked up, they get front door service. They get dropped off, they get all these special programs, and they don't speak English. None of them speak English.
None of the regular kids speak English. So yeah, we're talking about all these services— school, healthcare, food, welfare, cash, lunches. And Patty, what time do you wake up to go to drive the bus in the morning?
You know, I wake up at 5 o'clock. I have to be on that bus By 5 of 6, um, you know, to start my route in the morning.
And you go to work and these people get everything for free. And normal people that are not brave like us are paying taxes for this. You're paying for everything. Patty and I don't pay taxes, so we're not paying for it. But you're not angry enough that this has gone on. And Patty talked about like how well they place these people, because this all happened without us noticing. They seeded them Yes, they seeded them. They seeded a lot during the Auto Pen administration. Yes, they seeded them. Now show us the math you did, what you figured out yesterday or today in the development. How how old do you think this development is that you're talking about?
You know, so there was a friend of mine. Well, let's let me let me go back to you know a little bit. So I'm driving through these developments and I'm thinking, you know, how are these people? Getting into these houses. Like, it was just mind-blowing to me. So about 2 years ago, I had a conversation with some, you know, a friend of mine, and she was in this, in this development that they were building another development around. And she said that they, you know, their HOA got together because they were trying to stop the development from being built. She said it was like 300 300 or 400 townhomes and then a bunch of single-family homes. 300 or 400 townhomes. She said out of that 300 or 400 townhomes, there were about 200 that were allocated to Section 8. I thought, that's how they're doing it. So the builder, in order to get approved, probably makes deals with the state of Maryland.
They get tax cuts.
Yeah, yep, yep, they get tax cuts. So they're, you know, all these houses are Section 8. So that's— they've been moving these immigrants into these houses, you know. So think— I want you guys to think about something.
Let's do some math too.
Yes, you know, so, so if there's— so let's say the builder's got 200 houses and they're probably renting these houses and they're nice row homes. I'm talking 3, 4 stories, basement, fully just, you know, a nice home. And they're probably getting $3,500 a month. That's $700,000 a month that that builder is getting from the state of Maryland.
From the taxpayer dime.
Yes.
From the tax, from you people that wake up and go to work.
Yes.
That wake up and go to work.
You know, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's very, it's very, very, very frustrating. And to deal with it every day, um, you know, I know this has only been—
You're seeing it firsthand. You're seeing it firsthand.
Yes.
You're dealing what you said today, this little girl that's been She hit you on the way out?
Oh yeah, she just, you know, the mom's on the phone not paying attention, she's got a baby on her hip, and I'm like, get off the phone and get your kid. Just, you know, I just, I, I become kind of belligerent. I don't want to be that way, but it's just become very, very frustrating. Um, you know, and she just kind of looked at me like, what's your problem? Yeah, you know, you know, yesterday I shut the door in her face. Because I'm like, I have not— I have nothing, you know. You can—
Well, they speak English too, and you're on a schedule. You are, you are kept on a schedule. You could get in trouble. Now Patty only has about 130 days left and she'll be retiring. And then we're, we are anticipating and planning for an Abolish the IRS tour in 2027. Me and Patty and our 2 new friends, we are putting that together because we need a revolution and we need to help people remove the fear. So that's why we do this show. We're Except I'm not regular, you know. Uh, Patty, that leads into the biggest topic of the last couple of days on X, would be that— I don't know what this program is called, it's got some alphabet letters— the $9,000 stay-at-home mom program, where you must be legally married, must— your husband must work 35 hours, not even 40, 35 hours a week, and the mom stays home, and we're going to give her $9,000 a year, it's about $750 a month. It wouldn't mean anything in my life, but for some people, they prefer to stay home for peanuts. And people like Michael Knowles is even like, oh well, this isn't a new program. They're allocating $12 billion. Listen to this shit. It's $12 billion is allocated to this program for poor women so that they can go to work and they pay for daycare. We— well, not me, but you guys pay for daycare.
But, but that, but that's been It's been in place forever.
That doesn't make it right. Does it make— so now wrap your head around the logic, Mr. J.D. Vance. He and Trump, I don't know if it's come out of Trump's mouth, but they're proposing, they're writing legislation. It has to be written into legislation or something in this. Now we're going to take money from people who are— Patty goes to work at 5:00 AM. What do you do? And the husband only has to go 35 hours. I have my own business. I easily work 10 to 12 hours a day. I don't mind it. It's my choice. I do have the luxury if I don't want to work, I can go to the beach, but I don't because I love what I do and we have a country to save and a revolution to happen. We are addressing what is it going to take to address your fear because you have to stop being lazy and get an education. I wanted to really post this. Damn, I wanted to post this. I made a copy. I think I threw it out. Wait, wait, wait. Robbie Starbuck, who's kind of well known on X, he's got a couple hundred thousand people. He's a Cuban. His parents were Cuban immigrants. I believe he's He's born in the US, but he— I made a comment under something and then he made a comment. Well, if I didn't pay my taxes, the government would put me in jail. You guys must have some system that goes under the radar for people who don't make a lot of money. Oh really, Robbie? Really? Would you like to compare bank accounts? Because I did a little homework on you this weekend and I probably have more money than you. Okay, so your insults are not, you know, Welcome or entertained because you never look this up a day in your life. People say all the time, well, I'll go to jail. Why? Why do you think that? Why do you think—
I'm not in jail. I'm not in jail.
Why do you think it? You can't answer the question until you can. Why don't you say something? Gee, Gianna, that's really interesting. Why don't you tell me more about that? That would be interesting. You could get my other book, Freedom: The Patriot's Playbook to Restoring Your Rights and Freedom. It doesn't have all the IRS information, but it lays out the case for being a patriot and having private rights, which as you can see, I'm not in jail either. I have 15 traffic ticket wins. We had a win. I'll tell you, we got a couple of wins to talk about today too. What could we do to remove your fear? Because that's handled in my IRS class. It actually is called Removing Your Fear because I know the question.
Right.
What about Wesley Snipes? And what about Irwin Schiff? They committed crimes. You don't know that though. You only know from the headlines. And I like to say, you read headlines on a can. I don't mean to insult people. Okay, they committed crimes. They committed the crime of fraud by filing the 1040. And Irwin Schiff, not only did he do it, but he taught people to do it. And the government gave him 2 chances to— they said, hey, stop doing this. But he didn't stop. He put all zeros on his 1040. They know the money you make. You're volunteering your information. And he lied about— that's a crime. It says under your signature on the contract of the template. Gianna, how's it a contract? You sign it, don't you? If it wasn't a contract, you wouldn't have to sign it. They would just take your money like they do in Europe, but you have to volunteer. It's called voluntary compliance. Now, if you go into AI, oh no, voluntary compliance doesn't mean— it doesn't mean that. Right, right.
But if you ask AI, what is voluntary compliance?
This book, and you look up voluntary and compliance, we know what it means. I probably have the yellow sticky notes.
You get a completely different answer. It's just, it's, it's, you know, it's unbelievable.
Here's the legal fuckery of it all. Listen to this shit. In an IRS code, which I think there's like 51 or something, they could use the same words. But if you're in a code, you're in this code, this code could have the same words. But this code, they will give you the definitions of words. And when they give you a specific definition, In the code, it means it's that definition for this code. But if you don't know this and you're laypeople, and the big the big word is like liable. Who's liable? Learn the word liable. And so you can learn all this inside Legal Fokker University. And so there's a big to do about this nine thousand dollars, and I don't understand what's wrong with conservative people. I've been blasting people saying, "How much did you get paid for this drivel?" Because you can't be a conservative and think we're going to take money from people who go to work. Patty the bus driver, 5 AM, even though she doesn't pay taxes anymore, she's hypothetical. Okay. Yes, yes, we're going to take money from Patty.
Oh, but it's still— I'm just gonna tell you, it's still very, very frustrating. You know, they get on that bus and I— it just—
And you know, we're paying so much money for that. We don't owe them anything. Your husband probably gets up 5 or 6 AM too because he's in contracting. Yes. And they go to And you go to work too, and you're not angry enough. All this stuff. Now, I saw this— I first started to notice it when I lived in White Plains. I lived in White Plains in 2008, New York, upstate New York, in 2008-09. Luxury, beauty, affluent county. Then I moved back there in 2018, and I moved into a very expensive luxury apartment, and I walked my dog at 6 AM. You know what you see on the corner? 30 kids, 30 Hispanic kids, no parents speaking English, waiting for the bus. And when you're walking down the street, there were 3-bedroom homes because I would look them up. There's literally 8 to 10 SUVs in the driveway. 8 to 10 adults live in a 3-bedroom house. I mean, it's possible. It's not normal. It's not average, but they're bunking up. And I had a realtor friend too who would go inside like somebody finally wants to sell their house because they're probably also getting the Section 8 too. So they'll take all these people, people who don't live in their houses, don't care. There were bunk beds in every room, as many bunk beds as possible. Now, are these people going to work? Sure. How do they buy the luxury SUVs? And they're plated because we know, uh, New York gives them licenses. So there's, uh, this is the big thing. The big story is, uh, the $9,000. And like, I don't know, it seems to be 50/50 for me. We're gonna take from people who go to work and give it to people who don't go to work and encourage them not to go to work. So now if you're the welfare people That have been getting this money and you're single because they're single parent, that those people are single parents and they go to work but they put their kids in daycare with their $750. But now the married people, oh, you can stay home, sure, no problem.
They, you know, all, all they have to do is abolish the income tax. That's all they have to do.
And they can give tax cuts to these people specifically.
Yeah, yeah. And just abolish that, and that, that, that would take care of the problem. Well, that would take care of the problem. But on the end, and then the mother could stay home to raise her family.
Yeah, with the husband. Yeah, with the husband. Yes. Yeah. So, but you know, we scream and shout, you can abolish the IRS from your life all by yourself. You do not need to wait for a politician to do it for you. If only you could get over your fear and, dare I say, laziness. Oh my God, could you come in the university for 3 nights and turn off the TV and read some information and meet a zillion people who have already done this? I mean, could I be on here? Uh, the university started November 23rd, I think, of 2022. I'm still here. I'm still here. I'm not going anywhere. Hey, Patty, so you went to get a facial, uh, this week, and I did. What, what, why did this conversation come up with your gals? Oh, getting married or something? Yeah, yeah, I was getting married.
Yes, yes. Well, well, first I, you know, I walked into, um, the owner's office, and her and I were talking, and I My purse kind of tilted over and a silver coin popped out because I always, I always carry one with me. Yeah, right. And she's like, "Oh, what's that?" And you know, she picks up and she's looking at it. She goes, "Is Trump on this coin?" I said, "Yes, he is." I said, "Are you a Trump supporter?" She goes, "Shh, don't, don't, don't, don't talk about that." I'm like, "Why? Why wouldn't you want to talk about it?" You know, so. So that's how the conversation kind of started. And then, you know, I'm getting the facial and everyone's asking me questions. And the one—
You're the main character now in the office, right?
So, so the one, the one young woman, you know, she was getting married. And I said to her, I said, well, well, that's nice. And she goes, well, I said, well, so you make sure that you go to the state and you ask permission. She goes, well, what do you mean? I said, go to the state, fill out your marriage license, and ask permission to get married. She goes, well, we don't have to do that. I said, do you have to get a marriage license? Do you have to get a license? She said yes. I said, are you signing something? She said yes. I said, so who's the first person on that contract? She goes, well, I would think I would. So first it's the state of— the state, then it's the woman, and then it's the So who were you really married to? And she turned around, looked at me, she goes, you know, since you put it like that, that's— she goes, I think you're right about that. Same thing with driving, right?
Marriage license puts the state owning everything out of that union, including what they call your biological property. That's what they call it. This is in legal jargon and documents. That's your children. That's how CPS enters the picture. And I could tell it to you, and it's so impossible to believe. And it wasn't until I faced it myself in a Zoom hearing, saving a baby from being kidnapped in a couple that's from the university who are only common law married. You can be married, you can get married any way you want, and you can have 2 witnesses. And you could— we have in my class a beautiful covenant that you could both sign with your 2 witnesses, and you put it in a Bible. We teach you how to get married without the state, and people rush their bill. Oh my God, well, what about when the kids go to school? Cool. Don't worry, we already thought of that. Okay, this is how things used to be and how they could still be if you would only exercise your rights. And so going back to this free money they want to give, the $9,000, you got to be married. You have to be married in that state document, that state contract. And I didn't know that terminology until I started studying the fuckery of the COVID but all my life I didn't really anyone divorced until I was like 28 years old. Like, I worked in a bar and people, guys came in that were getting— I just did— I don't come from a neighborhood where anyone was divorced. I'm of a certain age, people just didn't get divorced. It was unheard of. And but all my life I have been working since I'm 14, and I never ever was going to stand in front of a judge who doesn't know me and he's going to decide what happens to my money and my stuff. And that is why I never gave out marriage I never cared. I'm a happy spinster at this age. I didn't go through any of that drama, and I own all my stuff. I do not care. So now, didn't you? Let's talk about because you brought up the silver. It is week nine of our Trump baby account, our hypothetical versus the Gianna Freedom Funds. If you haven't seen this yet, on July fifth, when the Trump baby accounts came out with oh the influence! Oh my god, this is just so great! Oh my god, it's the greatest thing ever, you know. You are stupid, stupid people, okay? You are stupid people. Sorry. So I put out a challenge. Here is $6,000 worth of silver. That is the $1,000 to start the Trump Baby Fund. I'm comparing apples to apples, silver versus the index fund. So there's $6,000. You can get the $1,000 that you get from the Treasury. Oh, you get from the Treasury, really? Where does the Treasury get it? From your pocket when you get up at 5 in the morning to go to work. It's taxpayer money. Why does anyone owe someone else money? It's taxpayer money, even if we're in the deficit. And then people, oh no, Gianna, you get it from Dell and all those other companies. No, no, no. They're making donations. Listen to this, 'cause I looked it up. I look up everything. They get it from zip codes that they chose, that Mr. Dell chose and designated under a certain amount of income levels, but they're choosing it.
Of course.
Not all people are equal. All your babies are not equal. We want to do good things for the poor babies, right? Okay. Well, the best thing you can do for your baby is join the university and take this. See this? This, I will show you how to acquire a tax-free Federal Reserve note. Federal Reserve note. You can take this and you can buy this. Okay, you can buy this silver tax-free. This remains tax-free. This is gone. This I own in my possession, in my pocket. Where's your index fund? Oh, it's on paper with your brokerage. Okay, so in the baby fund, the Trump Baby Funds, you can only contribute $5,000 per year. Why? Why? Why is it capped? Why would they care? Which I really can't figure out. But once you enter that structure It's an IRS structure. So all this news, oh, Trump's getting rid of the IRS. No, he didn't. He made the baby accounts. He made taxpayers because he knows people like us are talking about exiting and people are exiting. So now Ted Cruz was on a podcast last week with my friend PBD, PBD, and Ted Cruz said, well, uh, Patrick, this is so great. What Trump's doing is so great. It's gonna create capitalists. Oh really? So a baby who's never earned anything in their life turns into an 18-year-old— who's got 18-year-olds? It's going to turn into an 18-year-old that got their free money from the taxpayers, and it's going to turn into about $200,000 by the time that Trump account matures. The minute they turn 18, the day of their 18th birthday, they can take it over. It's on an account on your phone because it's executed by Robinhood. So you could have this app and you'll watch it grow all these years, and the minute that kid turns 18, unless you have control over your child, they get it under their Social Security number. And then it's taxed, and it's taxed unless this child lives in a different house, which is not likely in today's standards. I left home at 16. It's going to get taxed at your tax rate. It's not on top of your income, but whatever your tax rate is. So do you think this kid's gonna have deductions?
No.
I don't think so. I don't think so. Now So let's look at the Trump Baby account that is capped at $5,000 a year, that you don't own and hold, that's on paper and diversified in ways you don't even know. You don't know where the index fund is. You can look at the silver every day, and we know where this is going. And let's see, where are we at on week 9? Look at that, Patty.
Oh, look at that.
We both started 9 weeks ago with $6,000 in equivalent money, and the Trump Baby account is only up $59, where the silver fund, the Gianna Freedom Fund, which is physical tax-free silver that I own, control, and have in my pocket, is up $764. And what I love, I made this with ChatGPT. Look what he made, the little Trump baby.
Yeah, I see that.
It's cute. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. And So the challenge I have going is that every week on the show, we're going to check in with the fund. And next year on July 5th, 2027, we will see who is ahead. But let's speculate a little bit. Okay, I could add to this anytime I wanted. I could use it if I needed it in an emergency. Can't do that with your index fund. You can't touch it. And the only way it's tax-free is if your child goes to the age of 59 and a half. Do you think that your child will have that kind of self-control? And if you're the kind of family that needs a trump baby account? Do you think you're going to have those kind of funds where it's not going to matter? I mean, really, who's thinking like 5 decades ahead? So I'm having a good time with this, uh, Freedom Fund. But what was very interesting on the PBD podcast with Ted Cruz— Ted Cruz, a licensed bar attorney, I believe he went to Harvard. Well, Patrick, Patrick loves capitalists. Patrick, it's gonna create capitalists. Oh really? So the child turns 18 and has 2 $100,000 in free money and he's gonna think about capitalism? Really, Chad Cruz? Really?
He's gonna either buy a car, go to college, or buy a house. Because I do think there are— aren't there stipulations on how it can be spent, or no?
No, he can do anything he wants with that. There might be some tax breaks with those things, but it's still— you don't own and control it. And we're kicking its ass. We are kicking its ass. Now, I bought silver in the $28 range is when I started. Patty, tell the people when you started buying silver.
It's about $9 an ounce. $9. Now it's, it's, you know, what are we, what are we at now?
So we're— Patty, we just looked at 5 o'clock.
Well, but it's so crazy, it's 6:41, so it's still okay. Now it's $67.97.
See, Patty's brain will be like, well, it stopped trading at 4, and then what does it go back at 6?
5? It stops trading at 5, and then it starts back up again at 6.
Yeah. And so she'll check it all day long. She'll check it all day long. It's been, uh, it hit 70 a couple times and then it's dropped back down. We don't care. Buy the dip, buy the dip, and buy more, because in the end it's going to work itself out. And I just feel more comfortable today. I went to the grocery store. I buy a few things because I only buy food 3 or 4 days. $75, $97. I mean, you don't see it anywhere more inflation than the gas pump and the grocery store, you know.
You know what was the slogan today? I loved her slogan. Oh yeah, what did you put? Now if you're You're not stacking, you're slacking.
You're not stacking, you're slacking. You're counting on that index fund, God forbid your Social Security. So when I've posted online about— oh, who said this? Who said this? Um, I think it was Marco Rubio. I can't remember who said this, but oh, the babies— now this, this Trump baby accounts, that's good from July 5th until A day in 2028, likely Trump's last day, and then they expire. Okay, it's not forever something. It's a Trump thing. Okay, it's not forever. And then this person, whoever I saw, oh, they're gonna automatically be enrolled. Oh really? Social Security is a voluntary contract. Is there anyone, anyone in our age group over 40? Oh, let me sign up for that. You take this money out of my paycheck that I don't own and control And I'm gonna put it into a pool. You don't, you don't get back what you put in. It gets pooled and used and given to people like my little brother. My little brother is messed up, you know.
And then they're gonna tell you, yeah, and then they're gonna tell you how much that you're gonna get when you retire. So, you know, so let's say $600 or $700.
I think the max is $3,500. Does anyone get more than $3,500? Yeah, I don't— I've never heard of it, but I've never researched it.
And just like that Medicare and Medicaid, so if you— so if you made a decent salary, all the—
you know, if you— if they're pulling the money out.
Yes, yes.
So, but you still have to pay for it once you turn 65.
And it's based— and it's based on your income. So if you made a nice salary and you retired with a nice salary— I have a friend, he paid Like $700 in Medicaid.
For the Medicaid kit?
Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. I swear.
I thought it was the same price.
No, it's based on your income. All of it's based on your income.
Insanity.
Yeah. So if someone that's on welfare, they're probably not paying anything.
Exactly. Exactly. We're paying for that. So now they keep talking about the— oh, the Trump tax cuts. It's funny that I'm friends with Julio Gonzalez who made these cuts. It's so funny. I hear it in my head. You know, I haven't talked to Julio in like 2 weeks. The Trump tax, no tax on Social Security. So when it first came out, I was sitting at my mother's house and, Mom, you heard about this, right? She watches Fox. She's got Apple News on her phone. You know, my mom's pretty savvy, but not as savvy as she could be. So what do you think about that? Well, it's great. I'm not going to have tax. She gets $28,000, $28,500 or something. She gets whatever. I think that's the max, you know, for whatever her— she does not all she gets, but that's what she gets from Social Security. Oh, that's not going to be taxed. I said, no, Mom, let me read it to you. It's It says up to, up to. If you have other income, it's gonna drop down. But if you only get Social Security of your $28,500, that's gonna be tax-free. Who's living on $28,500? Okay, who's living on $28,500? And she sat there like this, really? With that, uh, you know, who's that puppet guy, the angry old guy? I can't think, you know, that puppet. I can't think of his name.
Oh, what, like, um, Jeff Dunham's puppet?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't remember what the old man's name is called. I don't remember what his name is, but I can't remember right now. But yeah, so you're pulling it out. And so I had posted— let's talk about some wins. I always post, uh, some sort of Legal Focker University success story, usually their IRS, but not always, at 3 o'clock on my social media. And someone posted under there, because some people get their employers to no longer remove Social Security and payroll, and it's kind of 50/50. You can't make your employer Do this. I, I don't— we, oh, we could do a whole— there's— why do employers think they have to be collection agents for the IRS? Because you don't. It's all just propaganda silliness. So someone made a post under my stuff this week like, oh, well then you're not going to be able to collect your Social Security. I'm not gonna collect it, okay? I don't want it. I won't be collecting it. I, I've hardly contributed to it. I only—
Well, the key is 10 years. You're vested in 10 years, then you can collect something.
Well, I'm not— no, I mean, I'm not taking it, right?
Oh, I know that. Yeah, but I'm saying someone in general can work. Okay, let's talk about it.
Is it 40 quarters? Is that 10 years?
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So you— let's say you have an immigrant. The immigrant comes here. Yeah. Never became a citizen. He's working. He's— let's say he's, he's, he's vesting. Contributing. Yes, he's contributing. So he's, uh, he's gonna get paid. He's gonna get pulling in the pool.
Pulling in. Remember when Doge uncovered how many— I think it was like 4 million people. I don't remember the exact number. 4 million people got Social Security.
Yeah.
And when the AutoPen was in, I went to my Social Security office in Las Vegas because I wanted to pull the contract and see when it exactly started. And they won't do that over the phone or the internet. I had to go in the office and I had to sit there for 3 hours, which I was willing to do. And it was loaded, loaded. low airspace loaded with non-English-speaking Hispanics, as it's Las Vegas. Don't tell me these people were just— they're just citizens that can't speak English right now. Of course they're giving them those numbers. And then it got outed with DOGE. So let's talk about some wins. So, so that's a win. And when I say that I won't— I'm not taking it, I'm not getting into any contracts. Now I do have a Social Security class because a lot of people don't know these small details. When I'm observing my mother because her husband died last year and I'm I'm watching her do all this paperwork. I'm like, oh, you really gotta do a lot of paperwork, you know? So she gets his Social Security, which was only $500 more than hers. Why can't you have both? Why not? Where does it go if he only collected it for 10 or 12 years? Where does it go? Why not? Because it's all legal fuckery. They're propagating you. And why aren't you asking, who are you to rule over me? Who are you, civil servants? Whoever was the civil servant this week that said we're gonna automatically enroll these kids.
Gianna, we have to break the conditioning.
We're trying. That's why we do this show.
Yeah, the condition.
Let's break it down. The— there's not exactly an auto-enrollment after you have your baby. Oh, the hospital nurse are going to bring these papers. We'll do this for you. Don't worry, we got it for you. We know you just had a baby and you're super tired and emotional. There's an automatic sign-up. They are paid and pressured to do it, and you don't have to do it. We have 4 children born into Legal Factory University that have been born into freedom. And then people say, well, what about— what if they go to school? Do you know you can't even collect any of these benefits unless you have a Social Security number? So what does that tell you? You can live without it. We're just gonna have to change the culture and do different things. And maybe in the next 20 years, while these people that I inspire are doing it, how about you teach your child to be an Entrepreneur, and they don't have to fill out a W-2. There's a kid in high school. I had a kid in high school was really, really rich, and I didn't really understand rich people back then. And I heard him say, "We're like in our twenties." We did a reunion. My daughter will never fill out a W-2. And I was like, "I don't know what that means." And later on, I figured out what it means. He's rich enough that she's never going to have to work. So we get a traffic ticket victory, and here's some more legal fuckery nonsense. So when I post these victories, there's always somebody. Oh, well, they won because the cop didn't show up. No, sweetheart, you challenge jurisdiction. And when you ask for discovery and you exercise your rights and you hammer them— this was a person who gave up their license like I did and was driving their car, their Range Rover, with private plates in Henderson, Nevada. They got pulled over just for the plate. Hey, you don't have a registration. Oh, do you have— no, you don't have a license either, but the officers are going to give you your ticket. Big deal. There's people— Oh, this sovereign citizen stopped It just, it doesn't work. We're not sovereign citizens, just sovereign. We're not having that battle with 1.1 million police officers there are in the whole United States. We'll take it on paper to the clerk because it's much easier. ID, take your tickets, shut your mouth. Do not try to hold court at the side of the road. So they, uh, I recommend that you get a continuance, get another one if you can. Those are playing the odds that the officer won't show up, but this person didn't know That, and they went to their first court date. First court date where the judge said to them, the officer isn't here, what would you like to do? Please raise your hand if you've ever had that happen. Now, our member wasn't that versed yet. He had never done this because his first time standing up. I told my brother the story, and my brother has court Friday too. He goes, oh, they're not seasoned like us. Yeah, we know how to stand up to tickets for a long time, but then my dad was a cop and he taught us what to do in the Wayback Time Machine. That's why we're not afraid. But so my member said, "Well, I'd like more time to prepare." And the judge said, "Are you sure?" Because he told us the story on the Monday Zoom, and you know he was a little confused. It hadn't sunk in yet. But the judge is very narrowly here. I'm giving you an out, you know. But our member didn't know it, so he took a continuance, and then he gets his next court date. Well, the cop isn't there either, and then the prosecutor. Said, well, let's just dismiss this because we don't want to put Mr. So-and-so through this. Oh, you're so generous. You're just so generous. Now here it is. Listen to me, my people, because I am the queen of traffic tickets. I win them all. And I help other— if you stand, you will win. Guarantee you, my brother's going to contact me Friday and that trip, that traffic ticket will get dismissed. They have no evidence. Your rights are this. Your rights are to get all the discovery. You become a pain in the ass them. You make them work. You make them earn that. They are a private for-profit corporation. They are not government paid for by taxes. They are paid for by all the tickets that you pay them for. So you make them work for it. They can— your other right is to take a continuance. You get at least one. It's different everywhere. You could usually could get 2. It's very easy to get them. And you do everything on paper. You're not calling. You're doing it on paper. You always want to build record. And so these prosecutors aren't going to be nice. They're out to get you. They want to go into your pocket and steal your money. So plus, so this was the first— this was the member's first victory. And I'm like, how do you feel? He goes, oh, I feel great. You know, because our courage is contagious. So if you're in the community of the Legal Focker University, you're going to see these, you're going to see the people. It's kind of like a Facebook group. Everybody's got a profile, blah, blah, blah. And Patty, did you ever look up your I did not. I'm gonna give you an assignment tonight.
Yes.
So Patty got a red light ticket in the mail. Those are even easier to fight. You're all— again, you're right, you're always owed due process and you have a right to face your accuser. How can you face the camera? And they time those things. They time the yellow lights so that you don't really get yellow light time. And the reason I know this is this really cute boy who is my boyfriend in like 4th grade, Danny, Dan Duffy, or I should say I can't say his name. Dan Duffy ran for office in Illinois when we were adults, of course, super adults. And I used to be on Facebook, but I'm not anymore. And he was running like, wow, like somebody I know is running for office. And he turned out to be a hottie, but he was married with 5 kids by that time. But we had talked on Facebook about him running. One of his big campaign things, it was— he was running for an Illinois Senate seat, not a federal seat. And so one of his campaign things was those red light cameras, and he was really hammering it. And you get the contracts and the proof and the calibrations and all that stuff. So he had proven that they're designed to catch you. So how can Patty get her due process, which she's owed? It's her right. She can't get her due process. You can't put a camera in the seat. They're going to let it go because that is your right. So that's very funny. Hey, there's something else I forgot to talk about. What's very interesting we learned this week is the TIG Report. Now I don't have it in front of me. It's Treasury something. It's the Treasury Investigation Report that came out August 31st of 2026. Oh, this is what I should have brought up earlier. We were talking about the IRS. As of June 30th, 2025, came out in 2026, over a year after the High Income Non-Filer Notice initially Listen to the terminology. A non-filer. You know what a non-filer is? It's also a non-taxpayer. Do you know there's differences between taxpayers and non-taxpayers? If you start to look up the rules, the research, Robbie Starbuck, the rules are for taxpayers. So now they put you in a category of it. Patty, you're a non-filer. They don't even know who I am because I've never filed a 1040 in my entire life. Uh, a non-filer notice initiative started last year because Patty, look at when the letters started ramping up that people started getting. 38,824 high-priority cases involving 33,653 taxpayers were still sitting in the first notice status, and then the IRS paused them. No further collection notices, no further action. Oh, I wonder why. I wonder why. Because you have no legitimate claim. Let's see what else. Do I have anything else? They sent scary letters to people who did nothing wrong. Um, okay. And it, uh, some of my notes say ask the audience how many of those people folded anyway because you got scary letters. Because I see it. There's a tax group in Facebook I'm on. I'm not in Facebook on my name. I look at my mom's profile. I'll just look to like look around. And there's a, there's a big group, um, that wants to not pay. I think it's— I think it is called Abolish the IRS, but I'm not sure.
120,000 They just complain and do nothing.
They just complain and they do nothing. Or they'll say, oh, I haven't filed and I've gotten this letter. What should I do? Go ask 120,000 strangers who have never actually done anything but don't want to ask us, you know. So, but how many people gave in? And for instance, in the COVID also, I had a member that his company put out the COVID— he told me this story— oh, everyone has to get the COVID Shot. He's like, I'm not getting it. 30 days later, another email. Hey, if you didn't get the COVID shot, you got to get it now. He didn't get it again. 30 days later, now we're at 60 days. You got to get it. Another third letter, 90 days. You got to get the 120-day letter comes. Okay, if you didn't get it, it's okay.
That's what they did to me.
Because they have no rights. They have no authority over you. Who are you to rule over me? Patty has no power over me. I have none over her. The guy's walking down the street. Go to the DMV office and ask yourself, just look at the human beings that choose these jobs. Who are you? Because in the back offices of those places and the administrative judges, they're going to say, you signed the contract, you're in the driver's license, you walked into the court, you're in the contract, you volunteered for it. Nobody forced you, but the propaganda does. Patty, we're at 57 minutes. The last thing I wanted to talk about was, you know, in the gist of all of it— like, I'm like a pastor now— in the gist of all of it, have you or are you now a U.S. person? I'm going to leave that with you because it's not over here. I don't have a regular dictionary. What a person is in the quasi-government of the IRS is a very different thing than what Patty— are you a person? You're a lovely person. I'm a lovely person. I'm not a legal entity person. And that's how they get the legal fuckery over you. Patty, any last comments? Um, you know, just tell people to buy silver, Patty.
I know, but you know, unfortunately I don't have that on my mind. I just, I just have, you know—
All right, have you been taken over by space aliens?
No, I've just, just, just this thing with the bus and these kids and the kids.
We got to get you out of that job, you know.
And the foreigners, it's just really got my goat.
Like, it would be a very different story if they were paying their own way And contributing like the old days. But the fact that we pay for it is disgraciado. It is.
It's very, it's very, very frustrating, you know. So, but I'm, I'm gonna leave, you know, I want people to think about this. So, you know, when you go to enroll, I don't know how most states are, but here, here where, you know, where I live, um, you can send your kid to preschool, which, which is income So you have a public school.
Well, for free. Yeah, for free.
Well, no, no, it's— but, but it's income-based, which means that my grandson who wanted to go to, you know, preschool because he had— he needed speech therapy was denied because they make money. So think about— yes. Yeah. So think about all these immigrants that are coming here, taking the space of the taxpaying people. People need to wake up and think about how we've been infiltrated in a way that it's really not noticeable. But you know, you can't walk down the street now and not notice it.
You can't. I don't— I don't know how it's not noticeable, but I'm a person that lives in the bigger cities. I read Michelle Malkin's book in 2012. Look how long ago that was. And I think it's called Borders, Inc. I couldn't even finish the book because halfway through, it will make you so angry. All of the tax money, all, all of the NGOs and the so-called charities that have brought in these illegals, legals and illegals, is all paid for by tax money. We have paid for our own demise and replacement.
We have.
So you're not angry enough, Tim Pool. You're not angry enough. Okay, I'll tag Tim Pool in this later on. Well, thank you, um, and we'll see you next week on Wednesday. Yeah, bye guys.










