The One Greater Than John by Neville Goddard (01-09-1964)

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Neville Goddard 1964 lectures the one greater than John. January 9, 1964. This is gonna be a good one. Oh, man. Out of the top three lectures that turned everything for me, this is the third one I encountered. I think the first one was I am second one was the Pearl of Great Price. And this was the third one. And those three sealed the deal right there in January of 2022. Tonight's subject is One Greater Than John. I think you will find this a most practical approach to this teaching. When we open the Bible, we think it's just a normal book. May I tell you, it is not. It is divine history. And all the characters in Scripture represent st states of consciousness, from Adam to Jesus. Everyone. They're not individuals as you and I are. They're simply representatives of these states of awareness. And the very last, before the page turns into an entirely new age, is called John. And so we are told in the earliest of the Gospels, which is marked, after John was arrested, Jesus came preaching the gospel of God, John 1:14. After John was arrested, then he appears preaching the gospel of God. What is this story trying to tell us? So here, let me share with you my experience. I didn't know it either, but I'll tell you how this thing works. John, we are told, is the very last of the great of the prophets, as we're told, trying to fight off a sneeze. Excuse me. As we're told of those born of woman. Excuse me. Of those born of women, none is greater than John, yet the least in the kingdom is greater than he. Matthew 11:11. None greater than John in this world, yet the least in the kingdom is greater than he. And John came not eating or drinking. If you take that on this level, that's nonsense, because the body could not survive. Another gospel states that he came neither eating bread nor drinking wine. That tries in some way to well explain what he did not eat or drink. Well, there's no statement in the law of Moses against eating bread or drinking wine unless you are one of the Nazarenes. And it's true as wine. Excuse me. Unless you are one of the Nazarenes, as it's. And it's true as to wine, but certainly not eating bread. The last supper was the eating of bread and the drinking of wine. But he came neither eating bread, if you want to take it that way, nor drinking wine. But the Son of man came eating and drinking, and they called him a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners. But we think this night of One greater than John, who was the greatest in this world, yet not equal to the least in the world called the kingdom of heaven. Now, these are only state, states of consciousness through which every man passes. If you are not now in the state of John, may I tell you, you're going to be sometime in the state of John, if not now, in this present little environment, when the wheel turns and it returns, you will be in that state. Everyone passes through the state of John before he comes into the state of Jesus Christ. Omg. Now, what is the state of John? We come into this world. Now, let me share with you my own personal experience. I was born in a very limited environment. Small little island in the West Indies called Barbados. My father ran a little grocery store, but it was a general store. Not only groceries, but meat, fish, fowl, liquor, wine. I mean, it supplied everything for the table. I was raised in that environment where it seemed the most normal, natural thing in this world to eat everything, to eat anything that was placed on the table. And so I did. I left Barbados at the age of 17 and came to America believing, as I did, everything placed before me that was edible was right. And then I fell into a state, the state called John John came not eating or drinking. And then I fell into the state where I gave up all the things that I did normally as a boy, right through until I was 17 years old. I fell into the state at the age of 20, a little after 20, say 21, where I would not eat meat. I would not eat any meat, any fish, fowl, not even eggs. Naturally, in those days, I didn't drink, so that was not giving up wine. But that couldn't cross my lips. I did violence to my own appetites because as a child, as a boy, I indulged in everything that my father placed before me. And suddenly I gave it all up. And for seven years, I was a strict vegetarian, teetotaler, celibate. Wow. Wow. That's incredible. John represents that state in man's ongoing when he does violence to his appetite. Now, I gotta admit, I did practice these things myself, but not at that length. I did, you know, I've done a lot of what he's saying here. Yeah. And yet life is nothing more than the appeasement of hunger. God gives to every man in this world a hunger that he can, if he knows God's law, satisfy. He can clothe himself with the fulfillment of his dream and satisfy it. But there's a state where man passes through and it is called John the Baptist, where he does violence to his appetite. I met a friend of mine in New York City. His name was Abdullah. He said to me in 1933. I met him in 1929. And he did everything. He ate everything, he drank everything. He didn't smoke, only because he just didn't enjoy it, but he did everything. An old, old man. He was then in his late 80s when I met him. And he said to me, so you're going to Barbados? You want to go to Barbados? I said, yes. He says, now, this is where. Excuse me. I said, yes, now this is where the good news of the kingdom comes in. Then when I met him, I did not eat flesh in any form. I did not drink alcohol in any form. And no smoking. And a celibate. He said, well, then, you are now in Barbados. I said, I'm in Barbados. This is on 72nd street in New York City, where the buildings can go 30 and 40 stories high. Barbados. If you find a three story building, you're lucky. The little one and two story buildings and no sidewalk. But no sidewalk. One little tiny street we call Broad Street. To this day, we call it Broad street. And that's the only place that has a sidewalk. All the other areas, no sidewalks. You walk in the street or you walk in the gutter, but there is no such thing as a sidewalk. And he said to me, now clothe. Clothe yourself with Barbados. Put it on as you would another garment. Just as you would another garment so that you would smell the tropics and you would see what you would see were you in Barbados. Well, I did to the best of my ability, and I clothed myself with Barbados. And when I thought then that night, and when I thought then that night, the first night that I clothed myself with Barbados, I thought of New York City. And I saw it 2,000 miles to the north of me. First night, first lesson, then I had succeeded in clothing myself with Barbados. I fell asleep in the assumption, I am in Barbados. Well, the days went on from this. I would say late October through November. And yet I am not physically in Barbados. So I tried to open up my discussion with Abdullah. And I said, ab, I did all that you told me. I clothed myself with Barbados. I'm sleeping in Barbados. And yet here I am in New York City. He would not talk to me. He turned his back upon me. And the very first time I brought it up, he turned his back upon me the very first time I brought it up. He walked towards his studio, slammed the door in my face. And if you knew, Abdullah, as I knew him that was no invitation to come in. If I could tell you how many times my teacher was angry at me in the exact same, exact situation. I don't know the number. I don't know the number. Because I was just that same naivete, just trying to take and absorb the lesson, but asking the questions as well at the same time. My teacher just saying, get with it. She didn't say those words, but her attitude of anger was there. So if I'm clothing myself in Barbados and with Barbados, then I must be faithful to this clothing. That's the good news spoken of after John is arrested, not before. John is doing violence, trying to gain the kingdom of heaven by being good. And he said to me, you're so good, you're good for nothing. Abdullah said to Neville, and you're trying to get into the kingdom by being good. You don't eat meat, no kind of meat. You don't drink any alcoholic liquor. So you're so you're so good and you're celibate at the age that you're. That you are today. And so all the fires you've bottled up in you trying to be good. So I kept on wearing my garment. I am in Barbados. On the morning of 4th of December, a letter came to my door, stuck under the door from my brother, giving reasons why he wanted me to come to Barbados. And enclosing in that letter a ticket for Barbados. I had not gone home to Barbados in 11 years. I made no request. I didn't write, I didn't write the family. My brother Victor writes me saying that you must come. And no response other than yes, would he accept? And enclosing a little draft to buy shirts if I need them, or a pair of shoes. And stating in the letter that use that used to check to the fullest advantage, charge everything. And when I arrived in Barbados, well, he would board the ship and pay all the expenses that I had signed if I use the bar, use the bar. He didn't know I wasn't drinking. But all expenses, the tipping of the steward, the tipping of everyone in that ship. He would board the ship, take care of all my expenses, but I must come, exclamation point. Then he gave me reasons for it. He justified why I went down to that ship on the morning of the 6th and got my passage and off I went. Now we know there's other details there, but this is okay. We're weaving all these together. Before I went, Abdullah said to me, so you're going to Barbados. May I tell you, you're going to die. But you will not surely die. But you will die. He didn't explain. Like Blake, he never would tell me the interpretation of his statement. You will die. Well, I went off thinking, well, I'll die, die in Barbados. Oh, man, I didn't die in Barbados, but I died. I died to everything that I was doing. I lived in Barbados for three months, which is the Christmas season. And everyone is entertaining. I'm returning from America after 11 years. And party after party is given for my honor. It's Christmas, it's New Year's. They're all drinking, all having fun. And I simply drink water. I've done this. I've done this same thing before. Mother prepared all kinds of meals. And I would just have a vegetable meal. She never heard of it. We were raised supplying the entire island with meat, with fish, with fowl, with everything, with all the wine. Everything was home. And I just said, no, I would take vegetables. I was there for one solid three months. This is hilarious. I came back to that ship going north. And the night I entered that ship, we sat maybe six or eight people at the table and. And we all introduced ourselves. My name is Neville Goddard. And so I would shake hands. And this one is so. And so you all introduce yourself. And aboard the ship. You all introduce yourself aboard ship. Then the man to my right said to the waiter, let us see what you have for wine. The waiter brought the wine list. He said, we'll have that. I didn't say wine. So he ordered that wine. Then came the first course, soup. So I didn't ask if there's meat stock in this as I'd done for seven years. I drank the soup. Then he brought the second course. It was fish. I ate the fish. He brought the third course. It was meat. I ate the meat. All the time pouring down the wine. Everything I had not done in seven years, I did that night. And then from then on for the 10 or 12 days at sea till I got off the ship in New York City. Then I understood what he meant. You will die. That state called John the Baptist, which does violence to itself, you must pass through it. If you are not now in it, you will be in it. I have been in it. I am telling you. Yes. I did not know this lecture was going to be so quick in this book. I didn't know where it was at all by date. But this is wonderful. This is a great, great lecture. That state is a heck of a state. I know many people around me in that state. And I've Been a big proponent of that state. This nutrition, that nutrition, this supplement, that supplement, salt in my water, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to repeat this sentence. That state called John the Baptist, which does violence to itself, you must pass through it. If you are not now in it, you will be in it. It's part. And he comes into the state called Jesus Christ. It's the beauty of all this, just understanding it. Slay and eat. Jesus Christ is the freedom of the world. So it said of John. He came not eating or drinking. It is said of Christ, called the Son of Man. He came eating and drinking, and they say of him, behold, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners. So you pass through it, and then you know what he is talking about. He doesn't come to destroy the law. He said, not one little dot will be rubbed out of the law. All will be fulfilled. But he interprets the law as John could not interpret it. John thought that by doing violence to his appetite, he would get into the kingdom. He thought that he could scare a man into salvation. And the next state being. John tells you, you can't do it that way. He interprets the law and shows the law as something that is mental, not physical. And then he puts it this way. You have heard it said, you shall not commit adultery. But I say to you, anyone who looks on a woman lustfully has already committed the act of adultery with her in. In his heart. Matthew 5:27. He takes it from a physical state to a mental state. If I look upon a woman lustfully, and I think I can get away with it, and it seems pleasant, I may be inclined to do it. If I contemplate that act, along with its consequences for myself and my family, I may restrain the impulse. But he tells me that's not good enough. In the contemplation of the act, I did it. Hmm. So causation is mental, it's not physical. John didn't know that. Fascinating. The state called John didn't know that. If I restricted myself and resisted the impulse, I thought, well, I'm not wonderful. I have just abided by the law ye shall not do. Then comes the next state called Jesus Christ. And that state tells me that wasn't good enough. The wheel is turning, and you're going to do it tomorrow. The wheel will turn now, and tomorrow when it turns all over again, you will be performing the act. And you'll wonder, why has this thing happened to me in the disgrace of my family and myself? Because you thought by the restraint of the act, you didn't do it. And now he interprets the law for us and tells us the very contemplation of the act was the act. And so when one gets to that point where they don't even contemplate it, well, then off the wheel of recurrence we are lifted one by one. And that is the story of the one that is greater than John. My, oh my, everything is mental, and that is the causation of it. So everyone is moving through a series of states. And it starts from Adam through, well, we can stop the Adam and start it from Abraham, from that where real civilization begins. So you start from Abraham and you come all the way through into Jesus Christ. And they're only states of consciousness where God passes through, individualizing himself as you. And everyone goes through the state called John the Baptist. So of all those born of women, none is greater than John. Yet the least in the kingdom of God is greater than John. So how great we are in this world, that doesn't really matter, because the least in the kingdom of God has a greatness beyond the wildest dream in this world, the least has a greatness you can't conceive the greatness of the least in the kingdom. And he's brought there not by anything he's done for me. I tell you, I did nothing to do it. I fell into it. But who made me fall into it? God. And so we can't take any credit for having fallen into the state called John. Everyone must pass through. Seemed to me, if I reflect upon it prior to when I fell into it, that I was disillusioned in marriage. A young man of 18 getting married and then being a father at 19, and then at 20, separated and becoming disillusioned and then pledging myself not to have anything to do in the sexual world and then to give up completely all the food that I loved. And I love food, love all the things that the world would offer, and then to go through it. And a man would tell me, on a certain day, you're going to die, but not really die. And then you're bewildered. I'm going to die, but I'm not going to die. What is he talking about? Well, he was talking about the state. I will die to that state. And when after the things happened and I said to him, what did you mean? And who told you I would die and not really die and yet not really die? He said to me, the brothers. That's all he would tell me. The brothers told me that you would die and not really die. The brothers told me you were coming to me. And what did he mean by the brothers? The Elohim, the gods who made us all in their own image. So tonight, may I tell you? Let me share with you the good news. You are told. The very first words given in the world in the mouth of Jesus Christ is the earliest gospel is in Mark, the 14th and 15th verses. The words are. After John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee preaching the gospel of God and saying, the time is fulfilled, the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent and believe in the Gospel. We just did the lecture, that lecture with that title and it is a wonderful lecture. Repent and believe in the Gospel. It is a wonderful lecture. Oh my goodness. Get yourself in the hammock and just play it over and over because it is good. The first words put into his mouth. Someone asked the other night concerning changing the picture of this world. The word is repent. In the first statement made in that Gospel. Repent is a radical change of attitude towards anything that happens to you in this world. I don't care what is happening. Repent. Don't let it happen as it is happening. I've been playing with revision lately and I tell you what man, if I can tell you anything, you who are watching this, get with it. If you're not revising, just do one, only one thing a day and watch it all change. Watch the probability you're in the mansion you're dwelling in. Watch it change shape in front of your eyes. Hear out of the mouths of others the change. When you revise, you're going to hear different statements coming out of others mouths again. That was the most difficult lesson I had while I was learning the set material that all time is now. All things are in a simultaneous oneness. And when you focus on one direction, you're focusing on that multi dimensional aspect of nature. It changes every other part of nature. I used to think that I was permanent. When I left it, it was still there. No, wherever. Your focus changes the entire thing around you. When you revise, you're changing where you're focusing, which changes the entire thing around you because it's all you pushed out onto the screen. Just practice revision. One thing a day, any simple one thing and you're not going to believe it. Profound. I think revision puts you in immediate contact with your multidimensional nature. It gives you a view into your true multidimensional reality, as Seth would call it. You see the dial change and I was recently with a commenter on another video recently of a few days ago, a few videos ago, talking about revision and seeing the hand of God. And I think it was her asked about that when I saw it, what did I think of its effect? Or was it from the out? My, oh my, everything is mental, and that is the causation of it. So everyone is moving through a series of states. And it starts from Adam through. Well, we can stop the Adam and start it from Abraham, from that where real civilization begins. So you start from Abraham and you come all the way through into Jesus Christ. And they're only states of consciousness where God passes through, individualizing himself as you. And everyone goes through the state called John the Baptist. So of all those born of women, none is greater than John. Yet the least in the kingdom of God is greater than John. So how great we are in this world, that doesn't really matter because the least in the kingdom of God has a greatness beyond the wildest dream. In this world, the least has a greatness you can't conceive. The greatness of the least in the kingdom. Wow. And he's brought there not by anything he's done for me. I tell you, I did nothing to do it. I fell into it. But who made me fall into it? God. And so we can't take any credit for having fallen into the state called John. Everyone must pass through. Seemed to me, if I reflect upon it prior to when I fell into it, that I was disillusioned in marriage. A young man of 18 getting married and then being a father at 19 and. And then at 20, separated and becoming disillusioned and then pledging myself not to have anything to do in the sexual world and then to give up completely all the food that I loved. I love food, love, all the things that the world would offer and then to go through it. And a man would tell me, on a certain day you're going to die, but not really die. And then you're bewildered. I'm going to die, but I'm not going to die. What is he talking about? Well, he was talking about the state. I will die to that state. And when after the things happened and I said to him, what did you mean? And who told you I would die and not really die and yet not really die? He said to me, the brothers. That's all he would tell me. The brothers told me that you would die and not really die. The brothers told me you were coming to me. And what did he mean by the brothers? The Elohim, the gods who Made us all in their own image. So tonight, may I tell you, Let me share with you the good news you are told. The very first words given in the world in the mouth of Jesus Christ is the earliest gospel is in Mark, the 14th and 15th verses. The words are, After John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God and saying the time is fulfilled, the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent and believe in the Gospel. We just did the lecture, that lecture with that title and it is a wonderful lecture. Repent and believe in the Gospel. It is a wonderful lecture. Oh my goodness, get yourself in the hammock and just play it over and over because it is good. The first words put into his mouth. Someone asked the other night concerning changing the picture of this world. The word is repent. In the first statement made in that gospel. Repent is a radical change of attitude towards anything that happens to you in this world. I don't care what is happening. Repent. Don't let it happen as it is happening. I've been playing with revision lately and I tell you what man, if I can tell you anything, you who are watching this, get with it. If you're not revising, just do one, only one thing a day and watch it all change. Watch the probability you're in the mansion you're dwelling in. Watch it change shape in front of your eyes and hear out of the mouths of others the change. When you revise you're going to hear different statements coming out of others mouths again. That was the most difficult lesson I had while I was learning the set material that all time is now. All things are in a simultaneous oneness. And when you focus on one direction, you're focusing on that multi dimensional aspect of nature. It changes every other part of nature. I used to think that I was permanent when I left it, it was still there. No, wherever you're focused changes the entire thing around you. When you revise, you're changing where you're focusing, which changes the entire thing around you because it's all you pushed out onto the screen. Just practice revision. One thing a day, any simple one thing and you're not going to believe it. Profound. I think revision puts you in immediate contact with your multidimensional nature. It gives you a view into your true multi dimensional reality as Seth would call it. You see the dial change and I was recently with a commenter on another video recently of a few days ago, a few videos ago, talking about revision and seeing the hand of God and I think it was her asked about that when I saw, what did I think of its effect? Or was it from the outside or from the inside? It's definitely on the inside. All of this is on the inside. But to me, what I was trying to describe there, and I'll try and flesh it out a little bit right here, the idea, what I was describing when I say I saw the hand of God reach in and change things, I really believe that what I was perceiving was revision. I was seeing the seam between what was the event to what it will experience. Well, at least the group of people I know in this world, sinners, tax collectors, was going to become. But I was seeing the scene of its change in real time while I was experiencing it. In other words, you could say I was noticing an effect from my future self having an effect using revision in the present state I was in. And the most impactful times I've seen this have been the times where I've been involved with law enforcement. I've seen these, these. I've seen this hand swoop in and pull me out. I've seen it, seen it, seen it. And you know, I'm like anybody else having a normal. The whole lot. I've been in situations where I've seen what appears to be just magic unfolding right in front of me. And it's as if I've just been pulled out and put over here. And there's two ways to go about having a perception of that. Either one, I've got a guardian angel. Okay, that's great. The other one is, it's me, it's my future self doing revision, changing my past self. That is the only way I can find to reconcile what I witnessed in real time happening. As far as change which had no justification outside or from the inside, it's definitely on the inside. All of this is on the inside. But to me, what I was trying to describe there, and I'll try and flesh it out a little bit right here. The idea, what I was describing when I say I saw the hand of God reach in and change things, I really believe that what I was perceiving was revision. I was seeing the seam between what was the event to what it was going to become. But I was seeing the seam of its change in real time while I was experiencing it. In other words, you could say I was noticing an effect from my future self having an effect using revision in the present state I was in. And the most impactful times I've seen this have been the times where I've been involved with law Enforcement. I've seen these, these. I've seen this hand swoop in and pull me out. I've seen it, seen it, seen it. And you know, like anybody else having a normal. I clothe myself with Barbados and think of some stopping place where if I am in Barbados, that vision would tell me where I am. So I think of Barbados and There it is 2000 miles to the north of me. So in that state to find that someone 2000 miles away is moved to bring me a ticket to go to Barbados. Experience. Well, at least the group of people I know in this world. Sinners, tax collectors, the whole lot. I've been in situations where I've seen what appears to be just magic unfolding right in front of me. And I'm just. It's. It's as if I've just been pulled out and put over here. And there's two ways to go about having a perception of that. Either one, I've got a guardian angel. Okay, that's great. The other one is it's me. It's my future self doing revision. Changing my past self. That is the only way I can find to reconcile what I witnessed in real time happening. As far as change which had no justification, it had no definition of why it was happening. It was just happening in my favor. Just pulled out and put to the right and it just looked like a big. To me it looked like a big hand stepped in and literally just picked me up and put me over here. That's what it looked like and felt like. And to me I can really. My true gut is telling me that's revision. Not seeing the effect of revision but being perceptive enough to notice it is the thing and not even known. This is all happening in years past that a long time ago before I even ever came near Neville. But although I was studying, studying Seth. But even some of these experiences have happened before. Yes, well before. Well before metaphysics of any kind. As early as I would say of course childhood. But I want to say one of my earliest very conscious was when I was 19. I was leaving a. I was leaving a party because I was home from the Navy. Just one example of law enforcement. We're leaving a party and we're mouthing off. The cops are over there and breaking up our party, our good time and we're leaving this house and I think I mouthed off at them. I'm just walking along the lawn leaving the house and all of a sudden I am just tackled and then I'm handcuffed and then I'm Home from the Navy, mind you. Then I'm tossed in the back of the police car. The funniest part about this is me, myself, and all my friends all know that my sister worked downtown at the Long Beach Police Department. And she was like, secretary to the head guy. I don't know. Anyway, so we would find ourselves in trouble with the law, but we would all. Pretty much. In those days, you could just say a name and, you know, so and so. And then they'll come, and they just unlock the thing and pull you right out. Like, a lot of my friends use my sister's name. So they take me downtown, and since I'm a Navy guy, they call the Navy the US I'm sorry. The Long Beach Naval Station has a little brig, so they call them. Then they drop me. Then the Long beach police take me over to the. To the Navy brig or whatever. And there's some Marines on duty running the little jail they have there. So they put me in there. And, you know, I have no idea why I've been shuffled around, but here came the moment I said to this guy, I says, hey, Lance Corporal. And he just became so impressed that I knew what his insignia on his cover, he had a lance corporal emblem. You know, that was his rank. He became so impressed. And I just saw him. I saw his demeanor completely change. This is what I'm trying to get to. It completely changed, and he became so impressed. And he let me call my sister immediately. I called her. She came down in her bitching camaro, an amazing 69 Camaro, five speed. She came down. She might have even been at work downtown Long beach, at the police station. But she came over, picked me up, pulled me out of there. The Marines said, no problem. You're out of here. So I left, and I was on my way. And then, of course, that was my liberty weekend, and I went back to the Navy. But the point is that demeanor change. Make a phone call, get out of here. He was impressed that I knew his rank, and he just. There was something completely changed. And what I'm trying to say is so many situations like that where I've just been, you know, just very lucky. And it's those events that I see revision in my favor. And I've had many other ones. That's just a fast one. But the idea is, is that it's just like you just get pulled into this other situation. So I say to you, try revision. Do any little thing. You can start to see the wave of change happening because other people's voices are Going to be saying different things. Every time you revise one little thing all around you, 360 degrees, everything's different. So you're going to hear different things. But be perceptive. Be perceptive that you've revised a certain thing. The next night you revise another thing. Just one little tiny thing. It doesn't matter. But then you're going to hear different things from people. You're going to hear different attitudes, you're going to hear different opinions. You're going to. It's just going to change all around you. So try it. Here we go back into it. Repent is a radical change of attitude towards anything that happens to you in this world, which is what I just described. Revision is repenting. I don't care what is happening. Repent. Don't let it happening. Don't let it happen as it's happening. You can also revise in real time. Change it in your mind's eye solely as I did, standing in New York City without one nickel in my pocket. Not a nickel. And Barbados is 2,000 miles away across water. So you can't walk. And he tells me you are now in Barbados. I'm in Barbados. And Barbados is 2,000 miles across the water. Clothe yourself with Barbados. If you are in Barbados, how would you know you are? Look at the world. For motion is relative. I can only. I can only detect that I have moved relative to something that is stationary to any motion. Excuse me, to my motion. So New York remains where it is. And if I assume that I am in Barbados and I think of New York, I should see it 2,000 miles to the north of me. So Barbados with a little small check to buy the necessary things to get aboard the ship. So you clothe yourself in. In a state. That's the good news. I bring you the good news of the kingdom of God. For man is rising into a kingdom where everything is subject to his imaginative power. But before you get there, you start to test it here. And you test it. So I'm telling you of a kingdom. What kingdom? The kingdom of God. Well, what is it? It's a place beyond the wildest dream of Earth, the world of Caesar, where when you arrive there, everything is subject to your imaginative power. But I'll tell you, start it right here. And how do you do it? You clothe yourself with this state, just as though it were true. And as you clothe yourself with it, wait as you're told. Those who really believe do not make blank space. If they really believe it, they don't make it so it is so. That's why when I discussed it with Abdullah, he never discussed it with me. When I asked him how would I go there, he wouldn't even answer me. Because what he was trying to show me was if you really are clothed with the feeling of being in Barbados, how could you and I sit down and discuss how you're going to get there? Remember my example. You get on an airplane right now, go to the airport, get on an airplane, fly to Oahu, get in your car, drive up to H1 to North Shore, find Waimea Bay, go sit under the palm trees on that hot, wonderful sand and with your friend, girlfriend, your boyfriend, whatever, whomever you're with, and start trying to talk about going to Hawaii. There is no possible way. You can't talk about what you have done. How can you talk about it to the person you're with who came with you, flew, drove you, now are there. How can you talk about going there? It can't. It can't even. It won't even come in here. Abdullah is so persuaded that he is in Barbados, he can't bring up the idea of being on the North Shore when you're sitting on the North Shore. How can you talk about going to Barbados when you're in bar? He's already fully persuaded, Abdullah, that Neville is in Barbados, so how could he. You can't sit on the North Shore and talk about going to the North Shore. You can't do it. Just be in. It is Abdullah's point. He is persuaded Neville's there. He can't talk about going there. You just can't do it. If you really are clothed with the feeling of being in Barbados, how could you and I sit down and discuss how you. You're going to get there? How could we possibly discuss this? And so he wouldn't discuss it with me. If you really are doing what I told you to do, you say you're in Barbados. Well, then you can't discuss how you're going to go. If I said to you, you are now rich and today you owe rent, can you and I discussed how you're going to become rich? If I tell you that you are and ask you to clothe yourself with wealth, if I ask you to clothe yourself with any state in this world, and then it doesn't hatch out tomorrow, because tomorrow is not the moment of hatching out, but you're anxious, and then you say to me, but where is it coming from? How will it come? Should I really discuss it with you? Would not that is a lack of faith on your part. If you say, well, I'm wearing it, if I'm wearing it, it should be just as real to you as the room is real. That's the good news of the kingdom. If I really want anything in this world, I clothe myself with it just as though it were true, and then let it hatch out. Remember, your time has passed when you learn this and you become the thing you desire. You've changed. You've changed into knowing how to get into the kingdom. That's your foot in. Just using the law is an expression of being in the kingdom. All things have moments between the moment of assumption and the fulfillment of that assumption. We either believe it or we don't believe it. And not a thing I can do to persuade you to believe it. I can just simply throw it out. And in this audience this night, there are those who will accept it and. And those who will reject it. Not a thing I can do about it. Not a thing I can do about it. I can only tell you of the kingdom of God and tell you these are the states through which we pass. So I hope you've passed through the state of John the Baptist. But it makes no difference if you haven't passed through. I'll tell you, you will pass through it. And so when the wheel turns, as it will turn for all come to the inevitable end. And so everyone will make their exit from this world. And if they haven't before they exit from this world, pass through John the Baptist, they will, when the wheel comes back again, pass through it. Let me repeat the sentence. It's a very long sentence. And so when the wheel turns, as it will turn for all come to the inevitable end. And so everyone will make their exit from this world. And if they haven't before they exit from this world, pass through John the Baptist, they will, when the will comes back again, pass through it. For there is no death. Nothing dies in God's world. It seems to die, but the world does not end. Where my senses seem to disappear from, doesn't. And how much. And just in that statement right there, how many people are spending this energy focused on the end of their time? And I mean their time in the 3D image that their garment that they're seemingly in right now, a lot of people focus on this end, and they just focus on that only. They just focus on the transformation of life and just sit static and John the Baptist, basically. But the wheel will turn. It seems that I. But the world does not end where my senses seem to disappear from it. It doesn't. So if the wheel is turning and turning and you and I are turning on the wheel, until by except for John the Baptist, before we are plucked from the wheel, we begin to live by the promise called the Gospel or the good news of God. To me, it seems you'll come to the moment where you can have everything and start to experience all of it. Then I don't know how much you're going to want more. I just have a feeling once you have it all, which means use the law consciously, you might choose to have a simple amount. So here this night, you take it and test it. If you test it, may I tell you, you'll prove it in performance. And if you don't test it, you will never know. And so it is Christ in you that you must test. Christ became man. God became man. That man may become God. So this John the Baptist spoken of in scripture is not a little man born of Elizabeth, who was the cousin of Jesus? Forget it. These are only related states. A cousin is a relative, and so these are related states. That's all. It hasn't a thing to do with my cousin born of my sister? No, that's not the cousin. They were cousins, separated in time. John came before and Jesus followed. Jesus is not a man. Jesus is the fulfillment of God's plan, God's promise, God's purpose, where he comes forward and he awakens as himself. And that self is Jesus Christ. So the last state man passes through is John the Baptist, where he does violence to himself. Now he is clothed in camel's hair and a leather girdle. The most external parts of a man is hair and skin. So he's clothed in camel's hair and a leather girdle. So here he's the most external thing, thing that man could ever have on a body would be the camel's hair and the leather girdle. And he said, if you will accept it, he is Elijah. Come again. Go back and read the story of Elijah. He was clothed in camel's hair and a leather girdle. It means that the mind is clothed and something external with something external. The mind is clothed with something external is what that story means. I think if I give to the poor, if I contribute to the church, if I go to church every Sunday and I do all the external things, then I am now getting into the kingdom of heaven. So I abide by all external things. And that doesn't get me any place into the kingdom of heaven. That should be very obvious to Anybody watching this channel, I don't think you're going to be catching this depth of Neville knowledge and still be preying on external things as the answer. I don't think that that listener is here, but. But there it is, we're defining it. Then I begin to do violence to my appetite. And if so, that's okay, you're on your way. You're on your way because the wheel's gonna turn, so don't sweat it. Then I begin to do violence to my appetite. I restrain the impulse to do this, that or the other, not knowing that life itself is nothing more than the appeasement of hunger. And God, and only God gives me the different hungers. And the final hunger he gives me is the hunger for the Word of God. Word is italicized. The Word of God is his final hunger. That hunger we have Neville to thank for feeding us the very last hunger. As told in the Book of Amos. I will send a famine upon the world. It will not be for bread or a thirst for water, but for the hearing of the word of God. 8, 11. And so the last hunger to come upon man is to hear the Word of God. Welcome to the party. To hear it is to experience it. I want to experience the reality of what is said in Scripture. And so I will hear it. And I'm so hungry to hear it, I will experience it. Then comes man's. Then comes man's individual experience. So man must experience Scripture for himself to understand how wonderful it is when he experiences Scripture. The hunger that preceded the experience is now satisfied by the experience. And so that is what comes out when he enters into the state called Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the flower, the fulfillment of God's purpose. So in the end, there's nothing but Jesus Christ. So then we are told, in that day or on that day, the Lord is one and his name one, and that name is Jesus. All come out as he, but they must pass through the state called John the Baptist. And John is but a state. All must pass through that state, doing violence to themselves in the hope that in some way it is seen by someone above him. And by that seeing he enters into the state called salvation. You cannot save yourself. No man can save himself. It's the gift of grace. It's the gift of God. You could this very moment become the most strict vegetarian in the world. Teetotaler, non smoker, celibate. Go to the extreme state and make yourself so impotent that you couldn't possibly even entertain the thought. And yet you cannot by such violence to yourself, enter the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God is entered by grace. But you must pass through the violence to self, and then you come out. May I tell you, when you do come out, there will always be those. I will send a famine upon the world. It will not be for bread or a thirst for water, but for the hearing of the word of God. 8, 11. And so the last hunger to come upon man is to hear the word of God. Welcome to the party. To hear it is to experience it. I want to experience the reality of what is said in Scripture. And so I will hear it. And I'm so hungry to hear it, I will experience it. Then comes man's. Then comes man's individual experience. So man must experience Scripture for himself to understand how wonderful it is when he experiences Scripture. The hunger that preceded the experience is now satisfied by the experience. And so that is what comes out when he enters into the state called Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the flower, the fulfillment of God's purpose. So in the end, there's nothing but Jesus Christ. So then we are told, in that day or on that day, the Lord is one and his name one, and that name is Jesus. All come out as he, but they must pass through the state called John the Baptist. And John is but a state. All must pass through that state doing violence to themselves in the hope that in some way it is seen by someone above him. And by that seeing he enters into the state called salvation. You cannot save yourself. No man can save himself. It's the gift of grace. It's the gift of God. You could this very moment, become the most strict vegetarian in the world. Teetotaler, non smoker, celibate. Go to the extreme state and make yourself so impotent that you couldn't possibly even entertain the thought. And yet you cannot, by such violence to yourself, enter the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God is entered by grace. But you must pass through the violence to self. And then you come out. May I tell you, when you do come out, there will always be those who mock you. Always those. So when he comes into the world, they call him a glutton. And they call him a drunkard and the friend of sinners. And may I tell you, when I came back after seven years of this rigid discipline and those who saw me in this meeting one night when I got up and suddenly confessed what I am now doing, that a few ladies in the audience cried, oh, no, we lost Neville. Because they thought they had in me some personal savior. And I became to them an image that cracked and broke. And they saw in me now an utter failure. One who normally drank and normally ate meat. To them, I was a complete disillusioned being. And it happens to every being in this world. You'll pass through it. I am sharing with you my own experience. And no man can speak with any greater authority than when he speaks from experience. For a truth. Excuse me. For a truth that man knows from experience. He knows more thoroughly than he knows anything else in this world. Or. Or than he can know that same truth in any other way. So if I tell you of this experience, you may believe me or you may disbelieve me. Even those who believe me will not know it to the extent they will know after themselves have had the experience. Let me repeat a sentence. So if I tell you of this experience, you may believe me or you may disbelieve me. Even those who believe me will not know it to the extent they will know it after they themselves have had the experience. And so you pass through. But don't encourage it. Don't this night say, I will simply go on a vegetable diet. I will give up liquor. I will give up smoking. I'll give up sex in the hope that I'm going to pass through this state. It doesn't come that way. It comes in a strange way. It came to me in the strangest way. I ordered the most wonderful roast beef. May I tell you, I was in Syracuse, New York, and I love my meat. And I ordered the most wonderful roast beef. And as I put my knife into it, I actually felt I was cutting the animal alive. That's Bean and John the Baptist all the way. Wow. I took the plate and pushed it away. I know people who say this exact thing. I could not take one piece from that plate. And for seven years I couldn't. So it happened that way. I couldn't touch a piece of meat, a piece of fowl, an egg or fish for seven years. But it happened. I was blank space for seven years. And I ordered from the menu roast beef as I always loved it. And as it was delivered, I just thought it would be marvelous. And as I put my knife right into it, I was cutting into the animal and pushed the whole thing away. For seven years it was that way. And. And coming back to the States, I did everything I had not done in seven years. That's how you pass through the state called John the Baptist and come into the state called Jesus Christ. But before you are lifted off the wheel, you must prove that this Is good news. And good news is that everything in this world that you want, you can have if you clothe yourself with it. You, that is, learn and practice the law. That's the good news. It doesn't mean you're lifted off the wheel, but clothe yourself with it. You want to be rich? How would you feel were you rich? How would you feel? You go to the store, it doesn't matter what the. There was a. I have to say it. There was. There was a time in my. When I was running my business, it was a construction company. And we'd go to the. Go shopping for material or parts or shopping for groceries or whatever. And one of my. One of my very good friends I was in the navy with came in and I had him. I hired him to come out and fly out and work with me. So we would go through a register, cash register of some sort, and I would pay and we'd walk off and then I'd. And I'd look at the receipt before I folded and put it in my pocket. Because normally everything's tax deductible, of course. So I'm looking at the receipt, I go, I oh, that thing was such and such. I go, that seems like a lot. Or whatever. I made a comment later. I never look at the price or feel it or sense it or anything while I'm going through the register. But later I would look at it, oh, that thing was such and such. And he goes, dude, you're a trip, man. You always do that after. And it's like, you know, it's like, so what? So how would you feel were you rich? You would not be concerned about the prices. Like Brian Tracy says, you'd go to the menu and you wouldn't look to the right side anymore. You would just look to what the thing is you want to eat. It's knowing you could look at any menu in any restaurant. What do I want? Do I want that roast beef? Do I want that grass fed rib eye, 16 ounces, bone in, or whatever it is, the tomahawk steak, grass fed all the way, grass finished, it doesn't matter. That's how you would feel. You would look at any menu and know you could have anything in there. You could walk into any store and buy any piece of clothing in that store. That's how you would feel. So that's the feeling you wear as your garment. The world is mine in that sense that I could go and experience anything in it. How marvelous. And as I put my knife right into it, I was cutting into the animal and pushed the whole thing away for seven years it was that way. And coming back to the States, I did everything I had not done in seven years. That's how you pass through the state called John the Baptist and come into the state called Jesus Christ. But before you are lifted off the wheel, you must prove that this is good news. And good news is that everything in this world that you want, you can have if you clothe yourself with it. That is learn and practice the law. That's the good news. It doesn't mean you're lifted off the wheel, but clothe yourself with it. You want to be rich? How would you feel were you rich? How would you feel? You go to the store. It doesn't matter what the. There was a. I have to say it. There was a time when I was running my business. It was a construction company. And we'd go to the. Go shopping for material or parts or shopping for groceries or whatever. And one of my. One of my very good friends I was in the navy with came in and I hired him to come out and fly out and work with me. So we would go through a register, cash register of some sort, and I would pay and we'd walk off. And then I'd look at the receipt before I fold it and put it in my pocket. Because normally everything's tax deductible, of course. So I'm looking at the receipt, I go, oh, that thing was such and such. I go, that seems like a lot or whatever. I made a comment later. I didn't. I never look at the price or feel it or sense it or anything while I'm going through the register. But later I would look at it. Oh, that thing was such and such. And he goes, dude, you're a trip, man. You always do that after. And it's like, you know, it's like, so what? So how would you feel were you rich? You would not be concerned about the prices. Like Brian Tracy says, you'd go to the menu and you wouldn't look to the right side anymore. You just look to what the thing is you want to eat. It's knowing you can look at any menu in any restaurant. What do I want? Do I want that roast beef? Do I want that grass fed, rib eye, 16 ounces, bone in, or whatever it is. The tomahawk steak, grass fed all the way, grass finished, it doesn't matter. That's how you would feel. You would look at any menu and know you could have anything in there. You could walk into any store and buy any piece of clothing in that store. That's how you would feel. So that's the feeling you wear as your garment. The world is mine in that sense that I could go and experience anything in it. I want to experience love, I want to experience wealth, I want to experience health. I want to experience freedom, happiness. Anything in it, it's yours. It's yours already because it's his. He gave it to you to play in and then wake up, you're him. You don't need a lot. You just need to appreciate what you are creating. You're creating it. You're creating nothing. You're creating poverty. Great, appreciate it. Now you can create abundance. Great, appreciate it. You can create way too much abundance. Great, appreciate it. You can create gluttony. Go ahead. Doesn't matter, doesn't make a difference. It's all yours anyway. It's your screen of space you're casting your image onto. You want to be rich? How would you feel were you rich? You want to be healthy? How would you feel were you healthy? You want to be free of all embarrassment. How would you feel this night if you were not embarrassed that not a thing in this world could embarrass you? How would you feel were it so? And you clothe yourself with these states, one after the other, and be faithful to the clothing that you wear and let it unfold in your world. It will. It will completely unfold in your world. And you will see it then as you practice with it and actually believe in the good news of the kingdom of God. Suddenly, when you least expect it. One after the other, a series of events that God predetermined to awaken Himself, will awaken within you, because God has prepared a way for himself to return individualized as you, completely prepared. And no one can stop the way he's prepared that way. And so at the very end, all of a sudden, the series begins to unfold, and you are it unfolding, and you are he, the one who became you and took himself through the furnaces, all through John, into Jesus Christ. And you awoke as he. There's not a thing I can tell you to persuade you to accept it. And I wouldn't raise a finger to make it so, because I'm not convinced by speculation. I am convinced by knowing, having experienced it. And so if all the great teachers of all of the churches of the world stood before me in opposition, it would make no difference to me whatsoever. They too will pass through these states because they aren't elected. They aren't elected. To these states by men. So the heads of all the great churches of the world, if they stood before me now, I could say to them, if you've not experienced it, you will. And your greatness in this world is as naught it is nothing. For the least in the kingdom is greater than you. For the least in the kingdom has a greatness that you cannot measure by anything on earth. And if you have not experienced this, no matter how great you are, with all the metals pinned upon you by men who vanish in this world, it is as nothing. But the day will come, you'll go through John the Baptist. He's not a man who lived 2,000 years ago. He represents a state of consciousness that's eternal, through which every soul must pass. And passing through, they do violence to their appetites. That's what the whole violence piece is, by the way, when he's saying over and over, doing violence to yourself, it's doing violence to your appetite. That's the violence part. That's being in denial. He represents a state of consciousness that's eternal, through which every soul must pass. Now think about that. That's a state that's forever. Every soul coming along must pass through that state to punch through that state, come out and become Jesus Christ. Where God awakens as you awake, then gives you these experiences to remind you who you are. One thing I wanted to add here before I finish that paragraph. In what other body of work? In what other body of work, metaphysically speaking, do we all experience. I said this before recently. Do we all experience the same thing? Similar. Similar visions? I don't know of one. I thought. Again, like I said before, I thought the set. I thought the Seth material was the crown. But I'm glad it brought me here. This is the beauty of all this. But not to put down any other body of work or study. Nothing like that. Nothing to do with qualifying something that's better than anything else. Nothing like that at all. It's that you always end up somewhere. And it's fascinating how that those who end up here have the same visions. If anything is proof in the pudding, that should tell you a lot. Just right there. He represents a state of consciousness that's eternal, though. I'm sorry. Through which every soul must pass. And passing through, they do violence to their appetites. They come out of it and enter the state called Jesus Christ. And they believe the story of the good news of God and actually prove it in performance. They prove it and prove it until the moment. Until that moment in time when they're lifted off the wheel of recurrence, and they enter the kingdom of God. But here we are told concerning John, the law and the prophets, until John it starts the great law. And all through the great prophets Until John, Matthew 11:13, there comes a stop. From then the good news of the kingdom is preached, and everyone enters the kingdom violently. I read here, in the most recent scholarly works, this passage, which is the 16th chapter, the 16th verse of the book of Luke. And these great scholars, and there were hundreds of them in discussion, and they confessed it doesn't make sense. It only adds confusion to confusion based upon an earlier passage, that they can't understand what he means, that all of a sudden everyone enters the kingdom violently. And this thing happens after John. Well, may I tell you? It's true. It happened to me. I can't tell you how violent you are when you enter. Not angry, but sheer, sheer energy. You use a power that you've never heard of on earth. We speak of a power of blowing up a whole city with one bomb, blowing up a country with a bomb. It doesn't compare to the power that you exert in that moment of entrance into the kingdom of God, when you are whipped up in the form of a spiral into your own skull. And it is as though it takes the energy to ram you into the eternal structure that God has predetermined, as though the whole vast skull is being filled. And you will one niche forever. Excuse me. And you fill one niche forever and forever. But you move into it with such power, the whole thing radiates, but whole thing shakes like an earthquake, as though the whole vast world is an earthquake. And then suddenly, when you are completely in it, and then riveted in, then it subsides and it's all quiet. And you return here to the world of Caesar. So the world is stating in that 16th verse of the 16th chapter of Luke. Everyone enters it violently. May I tell you? It must. Because it takes an enormous power to drive you into that part prepared for you. It's been waiting for you since the beginning of time. And you move into that one part prepared for you. And you move in it. Excuse me. And you move in so forcibly, the whole structure vibrates. Then it subsides and you're back. So you go home this night and clothe yourself in the joy of being the man, the woman that you want to be. I tell you, it will not fail you. Now let us go into the silence. It good. Excuse me. Your homework is two minutes. Two minutes of your silence in your hammock imagining you go home this night and clothe yourself in the joy of being the man, the woman you want to be. I tell you, it will not fail you. Question inaudible answer my dear, yes, my dear, certainly the lady's question is, do you think we could have gone through the state of John in a life before this? His answer was yes, my dear, certainly. Why certainly? I wouldn't doubt that for one moment and come out of it knowing that these things are not necessary for the kingdom of God and with all temptations of the world. For we all excuse me, for we have all kinds of cults in this world who are playing as a cult. They don't know it's the state called John the Baptist inviting everyone into it. They give up wearing fur, they give up eating meat, give up drinking, give up smoking, give up sex, and they're all inviting us into that cult and they call themselves houses of religion, but people are persuaded to enter that, and then they give up all these things and do violence to their appetites. You might have passed through that. I'm not saying that you did or did not. So I'm saying to you, to answer your question, certainly many of us could have had gone through that state, and in this world tonight you could be called into the kingdom of heaven and do violence to their appetites. You might have passed through that. I'm not saying that you did or did not. So I'm saying to you, to answer your question, certainly many of us could have had gone through that state. And in this world tonight you could be called into the kingdom of heaven because you're told when the question was asked, because you're told when the question was asked, tell me, Lord, is it now that you will restore the kingdom up to Israel? And he corrected their question and then answered, it's not for you to know the time or the season which is fixed by God by his own authority, but you'll receive power after the Holy Spirit has come upon you. Acts 1:6 Therefore wait for the promise. Just wait for it. You could have gone through it, and this very night it is my constant hope that everyone who hears me is this very night lifted up into the experience. Because I can't tell anyone the thrill of being aware of the fact that you are a part of the kingdom of God, and there should be no delay beyond that moment in time when God calls you and I'm blank space, quite sure there is no delay. Question inaudible well, my dear, when this thing happens from above and you are awakened from this deep, deep sleep. Question inaudible oh, I didn't even know I was asleep. I didn't know when I was awakened in my skull to find myself completely enclosed within my skull. And my skull is a sepulcher. And it's not a little tiny place like this here, for I only wear a seven size hat and I couldn't get into a seven size hat. So it's not this, but it is my skull. And so here I awake, I find myself waking. But unlike the usual waking which comes every morning, when I awake, this is something different. I'm waking and I awake in my skull. My skull is a tomb, it's a sepulcher. And here I am, completely awake now for the first time in thousands of years. But I am entombed. That's the resurrection. The resurrection begins the whole drama and then I come. And then out I come. Being born like a child, the birth is symbolized in that of a babe wrapped in swaddling clothes. So this series of events differs completely from all other mystical experiences. End of lecture. Wow. I don't one greater than John. Again, to me, the third one. I heard my first three lectures and I might have heard other ones in the interim. The biggest impact was the one I Am where he talks about two pieces of metal have the same structure, molecular, molecularly, but one that's magnetized acts differently and related that to the idea of the mind of a man. How your mind is a certain way, but once you affect it, like in a magnet, you set it in a certain direction. Anybody. The one who's a Pope is the same as the one who's a shoeshine boy. It was that one lecture that woke me up, as Elmer was first. But then I heard that one, the I am, I think it's called I am or I am something. Then of course they came. I come across the pearl of great price. Wow. And I think we've read that already. And in addition, then comes this one and this one, the one greater than John. Really, that was the topper. That was the topper right there. Because I have experienced these things myself. And so when I, when I went through that, this particular lecture as basically the third one, that was the total clincher upon Neville's work for me. Hopefully for you too. With that one greater and, excuse me, the one greater than John, January 9, 1964. And we're going to see you in the next one, hopefully for you too. With that one greater and excuse me, the one greater than John, January 9, 1964. And we're going to see you in the next one. And if you have not experienced this, no matter how great you are with all the metals pinned upon you by men who vanish in this world, it is as nothing. But the day will come. You will go through John the Baptist. He's not a man who lived 2,000 years ago. He represents a state of consciousness that's eternal, through which every soul must pass. And passing through, they do violence to their appetites. That's what the whole violence piece is, by the way, when he's saying over and over doing violence to yourself. It's doing violence to your appetite. That's the violence part. That's being in denial. He represents a state of consciousness that's eternal through which every soul must pass. Now think about that. That's a state that's forever. Every soul coming along must pass through that state to punch through that state, come out and become Jesus Christ where God awakens as you awake, then gives you these experiences.
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