The Ultimate Detox Challenge Day 2

Gary Breca and Dr. Jessica Petross walk through how to open your body's detox pathways before doing aggressive cleanses. They cover liver phases, lymphatics, and kidneys, then give specific supplements like N-acetylcysteine and liposomal glutathione, plus lifestyle moves: sauna, diaphragmatic breathing, regular bowel movements. Gary shares his own heavy metal test results that dropped to normal after 8-12 weeks.
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Eight hours.
January 15 (year not restated; referred to as 'this year').
N-acetylcysteine (NAC); a methylated multivitamin (avoid folic acid and cyanocobalamin); liposomal glutathione (or IV/patch/sublingual forms); essential amino acids; magnesium (glycinate and citrate forms).
About 30 grams of fiber per day.
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Foreign. Hey, guys, welcome back to day two of the ultimate human detox Challenge. I'm Gary Breca and if you were with us yesterday, you already understand something that most people never figure out. Your symptoms are not the problem. They're the messenger. Right when you use those messages to go back and find out what the root cause is. So I want to take a moment to just thank everybody for taking time out of your day and your busy schedules to join me and really putting your health first. I'm really excited to delve in today. I'm excited for Dr. Jessica Petross, who'll be on here in about 15 minutes. Yesterday, for those of you that were with us or that weren't, you know, we had Dr. Will be Dr. Buskowitz, a gastroenterologist. You discovered the game changing truth that most detoxes fail because people mobilize toxins without opening their drainage pathways first. I'm going to go back over that today. We have to have the body in a position to throw the trash out before we actually start trying to eliminate that waste. Very often when you do a cleanse a liver, cleanse a colon, cleanse a gut detox, what happens is those toxins that are trapped in what we call phase one detox actually go back into the bloodstream and make you sick. I had so many people in the chat yesterday talking about, in our VIP community talking about how, you know, they've done detoxes and broken out into rashes. They've gotten throat closure, they've gotten congestion, they've gotten severe headaches, they've gotten, they actually had, some people got nauseous. And the person that was encouraging them to do the detox said, oh, that's the sign that all the toxins are leaving your body. That's not true. That's a sign that those toxins are going back into your body. And so what we want to do is we want to be intelligent about how we detoxify. I'm actually going to share with you today my own personal results. This is a very personal journey for me. I'm an incessant tester of things and I test my red light beds, I test my hyperbarics, I send all of my supplements out for testing. I made the mistake last year of trusting a physician. I won't throw them under the bus on this, on this zoom. But I made the mistake last year of trusting a physician that encouraged me to get a special water filtration system that was restructuring the water. And basically what this system was, it was a glorified Chinese welding machine. And it was not certified for human consumption or to produce water. And the first time that I consumed the water from this, because it was, you know, very high in ph, it had very high amounts of hydrogen gas in it, I actually felt great. And so my son and I at the time were preparing for the great world race. Seven marathons on seven continents in seven days. I went all in on this water, and I drank full 4 or 5 liters of it a day. I used it in the sauna. I consumed almost entirely water from this machine that I had not tested because I hadn't had the time based on the qualifications of this particular individual. I just trusted what he was telling me. Thankfully, I never shared this with the outside world. I never put this into my VIP community. I never talked about it on social media. As it turns out, the components of this glorified welder were fraught with heavy metal. And I got severe heavy metal toxicity. And I'm going to show you my results. They're off the charts. My son got it, I got it. My house manager got it. My wife Sage, even my daughter Madison. And you could actually take the water that I tested from this machine and compare it directly to our results on the Vibrant wellness test. And the exact metals that were being created, the aluminums, the thalliums, the mercury, the lead, the tins, were all off the charts. All of our test results were superimposable, and they correlated exactly to the metals that were coming out of this particular machine. Now, that's what's called an acute toxicity. But I want to show you how toxic we were and how in a few months, I got all of those metals back down into the green. I did the most advanced testing you can do, which is called a provoked urine test, which. Which is where they actually run a chelating agent to draw metals out of your tissue, into the blood and into your urine. You test your urine for the next eight hours. So I'm going to show you, because so many of you are facing mold toxicity, mycotoxins, heavy metals, parasites, or viruses, and you feel kind of hopeless, and you don't know exactly what direction to go. So I'm going to show you exactly what I did. I'm going to share the exact protocol that I did. Every single one of you has access to this. This is not, like, expensive machinery. I did do some in clinic treatments like ozone and EBO2. But the majority of what I was able to accomplish this with are exactly what I'm gonna teach you about today, which Is opening your drainage pathways, flushing your kidneys, getting your colon moving regularly, sweating on a regular basis, diaphragmatic breathing to get your lymph system moving, mobility to keep that lymphatic flow going, and then adding the modalities like ozone and EBO2, because I happen to have acute toxicity at that time. But first, on a scale of 1 to 10, I'd love to know how you felt waking up this morning. On a scale of 1 to 10, just type it into the chat. I want to get you guys engaged. Tell me how you felt waking up this morning. You learned yesterday that detox is not a trend. It's a system. Your body has five core detox pathways, and we're going to go back over all of those. Your liver's phase one and phase two detox. And this is where most detoxification goes wrong. We don't want to release the trapped toxins from phase one back into the bloodstream. We want to clear the inert toxins. Inert means harmless toxins from phase two, liver detox, and put those back into the colon so the liver can actually flow a lot more efficiently. We learned that bile production and flow. Your lymphatic system, which is not just your lymphatic system here, but. But your inguinal lymph nodes, your axillary lymph nodes, the lymph nodes that surround your diaphragm. Which is why, guys, diaphragmatic breathing, the more intense breathing that Wim Hof was the pioneer of, can help move that lymphatic system. Colon elimination, actually, stool. We talked a lot about pooping yesterday and. And your. And your brain's glymphatic system, the one in your brain that only works when you get deep phases of sleep. Why is sleep so important? It's not the length of your sleep, it's the depth of your sleep. So when you're getting good REM sleep, you're assembling your memories. Learn memory from the day, taking your prefrontal cortex, matching it to the hippocampus, and the things that you learned or tasks that you encountered that day solidify during REM sleep. The deep phases of sleep are extraordinarily important because while we have a lymphatic system in the body, we have a glymphatic system in the brain. And the glymphatic system is the waste elimination pathway for your brain. This is why you feel foggy, you have headaches, you have poor focus, you have poor concentration. When you actually don't get deep sleep. When you feel refreshed after getting adequate amounts of deep sleep, that's not only because you spent the proper amount of time in bed. It's because the glymphatic system, the waste elimination system of the brain was active. Believe it or not, it's a physiological fact. Your brain swells during the day and then actually loses that swelling at night to open up these channels. I have a whole paper that I wrote on this. It's available inside of my VIP chat if you're interested in going deeper into sleep. I wrote an entire sleep guide, going to touch on the highlights of it today. But if you want more, and you want an exact sleep guide on how you can deepen and improve your REM sleep, there is a guide available to VIPs in the VIP chat, in the, in the VIP membership. So lymphatics, colon waste elimination, your brain's glymphatic system, your kidneys, sweat, breath, work. These are all ways that we're going to begin to activate our natural detoxification pathways, our waste elimination pathways, before we go into our tissues and start to dump a bunch of mold or mycotoxins or heavy metals or parasites or viruses into our bloodstream. So most importantly, I hope that we open your eyes to the truth. You can't detox if your drainage pathways aren't open first. It's that simple. If you're constipated, it doesn't work. If you're not breathing, it doesn't work. If you're not sweating, it doesn't work. So I'm going to go to the whiteboard. Do you guys kind of. Can I go to the whiteboard? All right. It's got to ask my team if they're ready. I'm going to go over this here in a moment today, but what I want to do is just give you a quick review of what we did yesterday and do you one of my just illustrious drawings. I always say, guys, I am a scientist, not an artist. My son is an artist, but not me. Okay, so that's you, right? If you're a woman, that's you. So we talked yesterday about all of the major pathways in the body that we use to get waste, that where waste collects in the body. And then today we're going to talk about how we get it out. We talked about the liver yesterday, phase one and phase two detox. We talked about the importance of phase one, which is actually where the waste from your blood is being trapped by the liver. And, and this is the phase where it has not yet been converted into something that can be eliminated. So phase one detox in the liver is very important. I'm going to come back to that in a second. And then we also talked about phase two. Phase two is where the waste from the liver is eliminated through the colon. Okay. This goes into the gallbladder as bile, and then bile is secreted into the colon, generally in response to mitochondrial meals that have fat. And then that bile is carried out through stool in your urine. I want to just highlight phase one for a moment because we talked about what, what supports phase one liver detox. Okay, here's what's important. Phase one liver detox is supported by the following supplements and the following nutrients. I can't emphasize these enough, by the way. You do not need to buy any of the supplements I've recommended. If you have a favorite brand like Thorne or Pure Encapsulations or Symbiotica, stick with those brands. I'm just going to tell you which supplements that you want to focus on within those brands. If you want my recommendations, you can click on those in the guide. But the idea here is to get the right supplement, not the right manufacturer. So nac. This is called N acetylcysteine. This is a widely available supplement. It. It's very inexpensive. This is a must have for phase one liver detox. The second thing that you need, and you should all be taking this, by the way, is a methylated. Methylated. This word is important. Multivitamin. And the reason why I want you to take a methylated multivitamin is that whether you know your genetic profile or you don't, there's a 50% chance that you have a gene mutation called MTHFR, affectionately called the motherfucker gene. Can I say that on YouTube again? Okay, team said, that's fine. It stands for methylene tetrahydrofolate reductase. It is the most common gene mutation in the world. If you haven't tested for it, do not worry about it. But methylated multivitamins are multivitamins that have already been converted to the bioavailable form. You'll see that these vitamins do not contain folic acid. They do not contain a form of B12 called cyanocobalamin. Those are two I want you to permanently avoid in any supplement that you're taking. So look for this word, methylated multi. Lots of manufacturers make a great methylated multi. I designed one called Optimize. But several brands make really excellent multivitamins and they have the entire complex of B vitamins. Because in phase one detox, we're going to take a toxin, right? And we're essentially going to methylate that toxin into something that is called inert, which is means that it becomes harmless, inert carbons. And so this requires N acetylcysteine, it requires methylated multivitamins. You can also add something called glutathione. Glutathione is the master antioxidant in the human body. It's actually made by the liver. Glutathione resides inside of every single cell in your body. There is not a single cell in your entire body that does not contain glutathione. So just think about how important that is to cellular waste elimination. A lot of what we talk about in detox isn't just urine, sweat and stool. A lot of what we're talking about is inside the body. It's cellular waste. Cells are like kids. They're dirty, they make a mess, they, they don't clean their room. And just in the activity of going through cellular metabolism, they throw out a lot of waste. This waste are called cytokines. They're inflammatory compounds, interleukins, histamines, these different types of inflammatory factors and these cause symptoms. Glutathione, which is made by the liver and resides inside of every single cell in your body, is the major waste elimination antioxidant in the human body. I take a liposomal form of glutathione so that it gets through first pass metabolism. But again, if you have a favorite manufacturer, make sure that your glutathione is either being administered through iv, through a patch, through a sublingual, or through a liposomal version. Taking glutathione orally in any other fashion will render the glutathione useless because it does not survive first pass metabolism. So look for the word liposomal. Okay? Basically what this means is that the glutathione is inside of a liposome, which, for lack of better words, is a fat molecule. It's a phospholipid. And the glutathione is embedded inside of that phospholipid. So it actually passes through the digestive tract. And remember what happens when you leave the stomach. Bile is secreted in response to fat. So if glutathione is inside of a liposome, when it exits your stomach, it's still intact. And then the bile will dissolve, the liposome will dissolve that fat layer, and the glutathione will absorb into your body a Lot of times when I'm talking about supplements, I'm just trying to give you some guidance on, you know, which is the best form so that it makes it into your body. The last thing that you need are amino acids. You know, that I like to take perfect aminos. You do not need to take that brand, but you want to make sure that you have all of the essential amino acids. You know, one of the things that we learned about yesterday is that amino acids are not proteins, okay? Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. So when you're deficient in certain amino acids, you're deficient in not only the building blocks of proteins, but the building blocks of neurotransmitters. Because when we talk about mood and emotion, for example, that requires serotonin. It's the main driver of mood. Guess what serotonin is made from? It's made from an amino acid called tryptophan. When we talk about behavior, dopamine is the main driver of behavior. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter that's made from the amino acids phenylalanine and tyrosine. So amino acid deficiencies, these are not protein deficiencies. They are amino acid deficiencies. We build almost everything in the human body from amino acids. We like to think of amino acids because they build muscle, which is very true, but we also build our natural killer cells, our connective tissue. So when you're amino acid deficient, it wreaks havoc on the body. Also, if you're amino acid deficient and you're not building healthy neurotransmitters, it slows down the pace of your gut. Yesterday we talked about the fact that in 200,000 patients that came through our clinic system, I never once saw a patient that reported suffering from anxiety that did not also have gut issues. Why? Because serotonin drives mood and emotion. It also drives the motility of our gut. So those are your basics for phase one, liver detox. Now, let's. Let's go on to our lungs. That is another way that we eliminate toxin is through our lungs. And one of the best ways to get our lungs going is diaphragmatic breathing. Diaphragmatic breathing. You know, I read a statistic. I don't know how true it is. It wasn't from a clinical study, but I read a statistic that after the age of 30, 30, 90% of people will never sprint again for the rest of their life. And why is that important? Because when we sprint, we use our auxiliary muscles of respiration. We use Our intercostals. We use our diaphragm. We breathe with the lobes of our lungs, not the apex of our lungs. Most of you spend the entire day in a relatively sedentary position. When you do that, you do very shallow breathing. You breathe only with the apex of the lungs. Around your diaphragm is your lymphatic system. So just by waking up in the morning, exposing your skin to sunlight, right? Getting natural light into your eyes, and doing diaphragmatic breathing, we can actually start the circulation of lymph. We can exercise our intercostals. I don't want the muscles between your rib cage to atrophy. I want them to be strong. So you get outside. You. You do three rounds of five obnoxiously deep breaths, work your way to three rounds of ten obnoxiously deep breaths, and continue to build by five breaths every week or so until you work your way up to 30. And when I talk about obnoxiously deep breaths, I mean, like, you never thought you were gonna get another breath, right? You were underwater for two minutes, and you just broke the surface of the. Really expanding your rib cage, moving your diaphragm, starting the circulation of lymphatic flow and getting oxygen into the blood. Sunlight is another just major one. And simple things like walking, which will. Which will actually get your lymphatic system moving. So. So we talked about the lungs. Let's go on to stool. Moving our bowels. So we talked about phase one liver detox supplements that are good for phase one liver detox. The thing we talked about with Dr. Buskowitz yesterday was separating your supplements so that. So that you're timing them properly. So if we want to talk about the colon and our bowels, you do not want to start a detox protocol unless you are having one to two bowel movements a day. If you're not having one to two bowel movements a day, we need to focus on that first before we ever talk about detoxification. Otherwise, these compounds will end up in your colon, and they will return themselves back to the bloodstream. What are some of the best ways to get our colon moving? 30 grams of fiber per day. Probiotic supplements. Biotic supplements. I actually gave some recommendations for ones that I like. I like Dr. Gundry's Bio Complete 3. I like the body health probiotics. If you have a favorite probiotic supplement manufacturer, stick with them. The one thing I want you to investigate is whether or not your probiotic is made to survive stomach acid. Remember, probiotics are Bacteria. The reason why we have a stomach is to kill bacteria. No probiotics can survive stomach acid. So if that capsule is not protected from the stomach acid, you're just swallowing the probiotics and they're bathing in stomach acid, and you're passing dead bacteria into the intestine. This is why some studies show amazing results with probiotics and other ones show poor results. So make sure that you have a probiotic that is protected from stomach acid and opens in an alkaline environment, not in an acidic environment. The other one was magnesium. In our clinic system, 85% of all of the patients that we tested with something called a cellular nutrition assay, and these were really healthy patients that were supplementing on a regular basis. 85% of them were deficient in magnesium. I take a supplement at night called Magnesium Breakthrough. It has all seven forms of magnesium in it. It has improved my sleep. It has absolutely improved my digestion and the regularity of my bowels. But if you're looking for a magnesium supplement, the two that I want you to write down are glycinate and citrate. Glycinate and citrate are especially good for bowel movements. And you want to take your magnesiums at night before, before bed. It also helps to quiet the mind. Again, if you want my supplement recommendations, I gave them to you. If you have a favorite one, make sure that you're choosing the glycinate and citrate versions of those. And then we go over to our kidneys. Okay, Then we go over to our kidneys. The color of your urine is important, right? It should be a pale yellow every time that you urinate. If it is not, it is a concentrated yellow. You are probably dehydrated. If it's bone white and crystal clear, you are over hydrated. The one thing that our kidneys need. This is the most overlooked thing I believe in all of kidney health. Because kidneys don't develop calcium stones, they develop mineral stones. Because the kidney is desperate for minerals. The kidney is one of the main filters in the body. 15 times a day, all of the blood in your body passes through your kidneys. And so the most important thing here is minerals. And almost 90% of the US population is mineral deficient. And these are not the minerals you probably think of. Not potassium, magnesium, and sodium. This is the molybdenums, the manganese, the zinc, the silicas, the. The minerals that we don't like to think about. I take something called Baja Gold. Sea salt is probably the cheapest Biohack that I know of, a 10 or $15 bag of that salt will last you four or five years. And get it on Amazon. You can also use mineral salts like Redmond or Celtic salt. Although I've been reading lots of studies lately that the Celtic salt, because it's gained so much popularity, that the mining process is getting, you know, inefficient, and there's. And there's heavy metals in those. So minerals and. And sea salts are great ways to get the minerals that our kidneys need to detoxify. All right, so let's go back to the. Want to make sure that I reviewed that first. So today's question is simple but powerful. Okay, so what's actually inside you that could be making you sick? Is it mold? Is it heavy metals? Is it a hidden infection? So without the right tests, you're kind of flying blind. So that's why I brought Dr. Jessica Petross on today. If you've ever heard of Dr. Petross, you know she's seen thousands of cases where people were told everything is normal, only to discover massive toxic loads that explained everything that was going on. So if you're one of those people that's been told that everything's normal but you still feel off, this is going to be amazing for you. She's going to show you the tests that your regular doctor probably doesn't even know about, might not even know that they exist, and tests that reveal exactly what's hijacking your health. So. And more importantly, how to use that information to finally get better. So who's excited to have Dr. Petros on? If you could just comment me so I can see you being active in the chat. Oh, I see her. There she is. So, Dr. Petros, welcome to the ultimate detox challenge. Thank you so much for taking time out of your schedule to join us today. Let's get right into it.
Good to see you. I'm honored. I'm honored, Gary. Thank you for having me. Hi, everyone.
Jessica's amazing. If you missed a podcast that I did with Dr. Petros, please look that one up on the ultimate human podcast platform. It's entirely free, but we go way down the road of detoxification. So I have some questions for you before we take questions from our live YouTube audience. If you're. If you're watching on YouTube or Zoom, please start submitting your questions for Dr. Petros. My team is going to collect those, and we'll make sure that we answer them before we slip off the live and go over to the vip Chat. So you say that you can't detox what you don't measure. I've heard you say that many times. So what are the most reliable tests for mold and heavy metal toxicity and what should people avoid?
Absolutely. So guessing is not healing, my friends. Mold and heavy metals are these kind of mysterious things that we encounter that regular conventional medicine isn't quite on top of just yet. And the way they work is they can deeply embed into tissues and cells. So proper testing is actually really foundational for people. I really lean heavily in my clinic on vibrant wellness. The urine, mycotoxin test, the heavy metal panels, these are staple in what I do every day with people. And the way vibrant works, these are really highly sensitive. Mass spectrometry spectrum spectrometry test that pick up even that's a mouthful. Try saying it three times. They try picking up on. They pick up on low grade chronic exposures that many other blood tests or conventional mainstream tests may miss. And older generation antibody only tests or blood tests, they don't reveal the total body burden. They blood tests for example, only show acute exposure. Like if you're having an acute mercury poisoning, it'll show it on a blood test, but later on they burrow into the lymph and fascial tissues and the drainage pathways. I heard you so eloquently speaking on. And so the deep stored toxins create chronic symptoms over time. And urine testing, especially sometimes after gentle, gentle provocation, depending on the patient, is more revealing than on, on the long standing toxic load for people.
Okay, so, so these environmental toxins, because I'm actually going to share with them before we get get off the live today, I accidentally got a toxic load of heavy metals. And as intentional as I am about everything that goes in my body, my air quality, my water quality, I was really embarrassed that I actually gave myself heavy metal poisoning, but I walked myself out of it. And I used the Vibrant Wellness test to find the metals and then I used the vibrant wellness test to ensure that I was back in the safe range. But how do environmental toxins like mold and heavy metals interact with hidden infections like Lyme or Epstein Barr virus? And how do you kind of unravel this complex, you know, complex cases like this? Because I've seen a lot of these where, you know, people that have previous viral infections. Let's say you had mono in 8th grade, it comes back as Epstein Barr. As an adult, it. If you had shingle, I mean, sorry, if you had chickenpox, it will come back as shingles. So Very often you're not catching these viruses. You've always had these viruses. So how do toxins like mold and heavy metals interact with these hidden infections?
Great question. I call these guys frenemies in our toxin bucket. They can add up and, you know, really fill up your toxin bucket till you're labeled with a chronic illness. And so these guys are toxic best friends. They really gang up together and create biofilms within the body. And the biofilm is like the sticky stuff that's on your teeth when you wake up in the morning. They hide in that and. Yeah. And so mold and metals actually suppress immune surveillance and our immune system in general. And that allows these dormant infections to wake back up. You know, you have a fight with your partner and you're stressed out, your work's going crazy, you come down with the cold or the flu. Epstein Barr is opportunistic. It's probably going to reactivate. It's a little bugger like that. And so when symptoms flare, it's not always from the infection itself. It's the toxic terrain as well. So if you're like you mentioned, Gary, you said, I just came down with a bunch of heavy metals. And it was kind of embarrassing because it can happen to anyone.
Embarrassing?
Yeah, yeah, it can happen to anyone. And when we're full of toxins like that, the terrain of our body is not clean. And in the environment, these things like, you know, yeast or mold, they digest organic waste. And so if you're putrefying your food in your gut, you're probably going to have pathogens there for cleanup because you are part of the ecosystem. And so, you know, I run a bunch of complex tests in these cases. Things like sometimes the tick borne panel, definitely a viral panel, mycotoxin test and heavy metal testing. And then you map the timeline. It's kind of like a dance. You clear the toxins gently, you reduce inflammation, and you tackle the infections that have made your, your body a cozy home. And you have to look for antecedents and triggers and listen to the patient's story. And this gives you the full picture of what to do.
So what's the, you know, you talked about, we use that term provoked testing versus unprovoked testing. Could you just give us some insight into what the difference is between a provoked test and an unprovoked test?
Absolutely. If you guys have done urine heavy metal testing before, you've probably heard of provoked versus unprovoked. And I will tell you, this means that when you provoke something, you give something, maybe A chelator or a gentle binder, something like glutathione that you've educated your audience on so well, or edta. There's. It's a. Something to pull things out of the tissues that have layered there over time. And if you do unprovoked testing, it still works. I do it every day in my clinic, and some of the highest heavy metals I've ever seen on anyone have been unprovoked. That's like a testing snapshot, if you will. It's what your body's actively, actively releasing right now. However, provoke testing. Like I mentioned with glutathione or edta, it gives you the full documentary picture. It pulls things out of the fat, the bone, even the brain. And it helps us understand the true burden that's hidden inside the body. Now, that said, provocation must be done carefully and in the right order. Um, because like you mentioned, if detox or drainage pathways aren't open, you're going to be pulling things out of their hiding places, and then they can't leave the body. They can recirculate and stir the pot and really kick up flares and symptoms for people.
Yeah, well, some patients. So we. We collected a lot of input before this challenge, literally from thousands of people. And I'm sort of paraphrasing, but for patients who feel crazy but have normal blood work, how do functional lab tests give them the clarity and the validation traditional medicine misses?
This is one of my favorite questions, because I have. Yeah, because you don't understand, Gary. I have hundreds of patients come to me on the regular saying that my labs are normal and I feel awful. I feel crazy. What's wrong with me? It must be me, because my. My doctor says everything's fine, and I have brain fog and fatigue, and I can't get out of bed in the morning, and I feel like a shell of the person I used to be. And it's heartbreaking. And that's because I. In my opinion, conventional labs look for disease, not dysfunction. Functional tests like Vibrance, Total Tox, and their micronutrient tests and their mycotoxin tests and their heavy metal tests, they look deeper. They look deeper than any test we can get. They show us imbalances in drainage and detox pathways, methylation issues, which. You guys know how important that is. Gut health and stored toxins, too. And the fatigue, the brain fog, the anxiety. Often you're validated. It makes sense when you see these tests. Yeah. You know, and that's reversible once, you know the route.
Okay, so if someone, let's say, tests positive for mold toxins, you know, we live in the mold capital of the world. So I'm in Miami, and at some point myself, my entire family has had mold toxicity. We've tested and gotten back down into the green range now. But my understanding from Dr. Minkoff is that Miami and Malibu, California, of all places, are the two mold capitals of the country. But if someone tests positive for mold toxins, what's the next logical step? Is it environmental testing? Is it targeted detox? Or do they do both?
Absolutely. And you bring up a good point that I just might mention. It doesn't matter how nice your house is, mold can still affect you and your home. It really can. And so I always say a little bit of both, depending on the person and the patient. You really can't detox your way out of a sick building. Can I just say that up front? The number one rule of environmental medicine is avoidance. And there are some people. And we'll talk about genetics in a minute. That just are more sensitive, and I cannot open drainage and get them better until they're out of the house.
I agree with you.
Yeah, you know, some people can, but not everyone. And I never know who's going to be who unless we do genetic testing. So I start with environmental testing, maybe an ermi, which stands for Environmental Relative Multi Index, or hertz. Me. These two tests were developed by the Environmental Protection Agent Agency, and they look, they're a do it yourself test at home that you sweep in a vacuum, and they tell you the number of mold spores and the type of mold spores. And that's really useful when you want to match up what's on your urine mycotox test in your body to make sure it's the current house you're living in. That's a problem. You know, sometimes mold can colonize sinus passages or our gut lining and follow us even after we leave the moldy house. So it's really important before you start tearing apart your house to know if it's the current place that's the problem. And at the same time, you want to support drainage pathways, sweating binders if needed, lymphatic support, mineralization.
Did you read ahead in my detox guide?
Oh, you're just. We're just on the same wavelength, Gary. Yeah.
So can you. Can you walk us through how to interpret a vibrant wellness mycotoxin test? Or let's say that somebody got a mycotoxin or mold test somewhere else. I recommend the vibrant, but you can use other ones. So can you just walk us through how we interpret this vibrant wellness mycotoxin or heavy metal report? And, like, what key markers should people be looking at first?
Well, you know, first of all, first and foremost, you really. You know, if in an ideal world, we wouldn't want any mold in the red. So just because you have more in the red, you have to match up symptomatology first. Okay, so match up symptoms before you see everything in the red and start freaking out. But for mold, you want to focus on the pretty infamous ones. That's things like ochratoxin, a leotoxin.
That one is. I got that one. And, you know, interestingly, I traced it back to the coffee and nuts. I was eating a ton of nuts. I was, like, traveling with them. I always had them in my bag. But I would store them in those big. I buy them in bulk, and I would put them in the big glass jars, and sometimes they'd be on my counter for weeks or even months. And the thing is, I want you guys to realize this is really not your fault. I'm about as intentional as any human being could be about my air quality, my water quality, you know, avoiding seed oils. And. And when I got this toxic report back, I mean, I was. I honestly, I was embarrassed, and I just decided to be very vulnerable and transparent about it and say, who better to have it happen to than me and walk my way out of it. And in our clinic system, we would see this linked back to so many issues that people were suffering from that they just couldn't put a finger on. So, absolutely. I really want you guys to sound off in the comments section about what you've. What you're learning from Dr. Jess in just a few short minutes. And I want to actually dive into the live questions from our viewers on YouTube because I always want people to be able to ask direct questions. So number one was, I'm wondering if this detox is also applicable if you have leaky gut and sibo, you know, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, Guys.
Yes, absolutely. So it is. You know, the first place I start with people with everyone is, you know, is your drainage open? Are you pooping regularly to at least twice a day? It's not, you know, too loose and falling apart in the toilet. I mean, normalize. Talking about bowel movements, guys. You want to be sweating within a sauna within 10 to 15 minutes, you know, and, you know, it shouldn't be miserable for you guys. It shouldn't wipe you out. You want to really be sleeping somewhat adequately at night. And. And you know, you want your nervous system regulated because your body won't release toxins when it's contracted. That's why when you're not in rest and digest, you can't poop, so it holds on to toxins. So nervous system regulation, opening, drainage, and that's the first step to sibo, to mold, to heavy metals, do any sort of detox. We're going to put you guys through. You have to prep the body.
Is it okay to start a detox? This is question number two. Is it okay to start a detox like all the supplements while breastfeeding?
So I would be careful personally in my clinic. I don't give binders or detox too heavily when someone is breastfeeding because the breast milk is a drainage pathway, you guys. So are cycles for women.
Okay.
Yeah.
So do you need an. A doctor to order or obtain these tests like the Vibrant Wellness test?
So, no, you can actually order through us. You know, I think Gary has an offer and I do, too. And yeah, you guys, for sure, if you run through my.
Can you put that link in there?
Yeah, please. That would be useful, you guys, because you want to look at these. This is the highest and most quality testing that you can get as, as a, as a patient, in my opinion. That's. I. I consistently use fiber labs.
Okay, so can my regular primary care physician test for these, or does it need to be from a fancy clinic?
Oh, man. You know, that's the biggest problem I have with functional medicine is it isn't as standardized and it isn't as readily accessible as I wish it would be for people. Now, Gary has a great offer where you guys don't need a fancy clinic. You can just order these tests and, and we'll do lab readouts. You can come to me. I'd be happy to interpret the TAPS test for you guys, but, you know, your PCP may not know about Vibrant. A lot of these mainstream doctors aren't really into functional testing. So it's a case by case. I would definitely ask just to see.
Yeah, can I just. I just want to make a comment too, that in. In. In our clinic system, in the last year, our clinic director, Dr. Sarda, actually uncovered three patients that were actually being treated for Parkinson's, symptoms for Parkinson's disease that did not have Parkinson's. They actually had chronic viral infections, Lyme and. Or West Nile virus. And very often, if you look at the symptomology between viruses or parasitic infections or even molds, they Mimic the conditions of other much more sinister chronic diseases. And the sad thing is, once you make that decision that, oh, you have Parkinson's, oh, you have add, adhd, you have chronic anxiety, you have, you know, clinical depression. Once that diagnosis is made, now you're on that path for the balance of your lifetime and you are a depressed person, or you are on. You have generalized anxiety, or you have Parkinson's, or you have an autoimmune disease and your immune system has just gone haywire. And this is one of the messages I really try to get out to the world, that unless your physician can tell you what caused it and say this was caused from this, then you shouldn't just accept that you have one of these chronic conditions. We should always keep investigating. And lo and behold, you might just find out that you have a very common chronic viral infection, a mold or mycotoxin, or you have severe metal toxicity.
So that is a top level information, you guys. Sarcoidosis is mold. Autoimmunity is often parasites. Gary just gave you one of the most important tips that you can have in health care. Your label is not root cause.
Thank you. You know, there's a really interesting study that I'll, I'll actually, I think it's actually up on my Instagram, but a really interesting study done on multiple sclerosis patients where they look, they look at brain biopsies and tissue biopsies in Ms. Patients, and in 100% of them post mortem, they found the same cesto nematode, the same helminth parasite, this little parasite that burrows into the myelin sheath of the nerve and lights the immune system up. And again, I'm not here to say all multiple sclerosis is parasites. But what I am telling you is if it's idiopathic, if it's of unknown origin, why are we not trying to find out what the origin is? The other question was, is there anything for Long Covid? Any tips for Long Covid?
Oh, yes, you guys. My goodness. I treat this day in and day out. They all have mast cell and histamine problems, almost all of them. You know, palpitations, anxiety, insomnia. It's pretty miserable. So you want to look for things that boost nitric oxide, like L arginine, L citrulline, beetroot powder. You want to look for things that bust up that biofilm I was talking about, like nattokinase or lumber kinase. You want to look at things that help mitochondrial toxicity, which are the little powerhouses of the cell that produce ATP and energy. So you want things like quercetin, vitamin C, glutathione, the master antioxidant, and methylated B vitamins. All of these are like the building blocks that you need for your body to run at peak performance. And if you don't have them, you're going to be not able to have enzymes and cofactors that make you run at peak. So yes, absolutely. You can reverse long Covid. Absolutely. These people can get their lives back all the time.
I love that. What should you. This is another question. What should you treat first, limes or mold? Or can they both be done together?
Honestly, mold and they can both be done a little bit together. You guys, they can. I have a protocol called Kilbind Sweat where people take herbal bind sweat. He'll. It sounds like I'm a crazy.
Sounds like a boot camp that I want to go to. It sounds like. Like a vicious CrossFit class or an estimate.
One of those things. It went viral though, because of the name and it's so practical. So everyone can do it. You know, once your drainage is open and you're pooping and you're sweating, you can take an herbal antimicrobial. You can take. Wait 30 minutes and take a binder of your choice, something like zeolite, bentonite, clay. My favorites are fulvic and humic acids. And then you get in the sauna and so you're killing things off. Your drainage is open, so you're sweating them out and binding mopping up what you're sweating out. So you're pulling things out of the body. And there's a small study I can show you guys where you can sweat out metals, things like mercury, cadmium, lead.
Totally believe that. Yeah. I mean, I did it myself. I'm going to show you my pre and post results here in a moment. But I did it. Did it myself. So please explain. Oh boy. How vaccines we're in infancy or as adults affect your toxicity levels.
Oh, boy. Loaded question. Load a question, but a good question.
YouTube, you're about to get shut down.
Oh, boy. Yeah, so. So, absolutely, you guys, it's going to go dark. We've been. Everyone goes out right now. But no, listen, they've been. We've been told they're safe and effective, but everyone's genetics are different. Your genes that are turned on or off are different. It's like a piano keys where the key keys are pressed differently on each person and that's your genes. And so there are some people who don't have the genetics to be able to handle 72 different doses as recommended by the CDC before the age of 18. And they just can't. We have to look at people's epigenetics and their changes in their genes before we can say things are safe and effective. In fact, Gardasil has twice the amount of aluminum as most vaccines and the placebo even has aluminum. So when I tell you that some of the studies are, there may be conflicts of interest or. Absolutely. They can add to disease for some people, I truly believe that and I would be lying to you if I told you differently.
I, I, I agree with that too. You know, I, I, I actually held a symposium on long Covid and vaccine injury. One of the things that we focused on, I, I don't want to jump the topic too much, was the clearance of spike protein. And, and people generally fell into three categories. Excellent spike protein clearance, no symptoms, vaccinated boosted, no problems, marginal clearance of spike protein and symptoms that they learned to live with. Things like weight gain, water retention, brain fog, poor focus and concentration, occasional tingling and numbness, some fatigue, and then ones that didn't clear it at all. And they had things as severe as myocarditis and pericarditis, trigeminal neuralgias, transverse myelitis, or very severe symptoms that cause them to have to end their careers. And so this has to do with exactly what Dr. Petros is talking about is how well can your body get rid of these toxins. Everyone on this entire zoom right now, we could all eat the same amount of mercury laden tuna fish every single day for 60 days or 90 days. A third of you would have heavy metal toxicity, severe poisoning, A third of you would have mild symptoms and a third of you would have no symptoms at all. Right. It just has to do with how your body can clear these things. So the next question was how long does it take to detoxify from heavy metals? And what's the way to detoxify heavy metals efficiently? Oh, did she freeze? I think, I think she froze. So I'm going to answer that question. So until we get Dr. Petros back. So it's the, the answer is there's not a specific time frame for heavy metals. I would plan on eight to 12 weeks of consistently sticking with a protocol. Are you back, Dr. Petros? Oh, okay. You gotta unmute.
Thank you. Let me unmute it.
She's back. You froze in a really good position though. You had a big smile on your face, so that's good. Some people freeze picking their teeth. So but so the question is, how long does it take to detox from heavy metals? And what is the best way to detox heavy metals efficiently?
Well, you touched on that, Gary. You know, just like you said, some people get rid of it and some people store it. And so it really, it varies from person to person. This is the way we get it. We can't do blanket medicine. The art of medicine is in the details and individuality with each person. So in my personal experience as a medical doctor, it takes a while to get rid of this for some people because it's layered in the fascial tissues. And how quickly can we get the lymph and the fascia untangled? It depends on the person, depends on their electrolyte status, their mineral status, their fat status, their hydration status, and how quickly we can open their drainage pathways to release. So all this is very dependent on each individual.
So this is a great question. How do I detox after multiple CT scans or MRIs with contrast? I will also say that I have seen people become very sick after getting an MRI with contrast dyes. These radioactive dyes. Some people, again, can eliminate those and some can't. My wife was one of those people who got really ill after she had an MRI done of her shoulder. She had a torn bicep tendon, some damage to a rotator cuff. Luckily, it didn't require surgery, but they did the MRI with contrast. And, I mean, it sent my wife into a tailspin unlike anything I've ever seen. She was really poisoned by that. So can you talk a little bit about CT scans or MRIs with contrast dyes for sure?
So MRIs use gadolinium, which is a heavy metal, and CTs use IV contrast dye, which goes through the kidneys to detox. In fact, they can cause acute, acute kidney disease or failure in some sensitive people whose kidneys aren't up to par. So they can be hard on the system. But the number one rule is support drainage pathways first, because no matter what I give you and put in your body, if you can't poop it out, sweat it out. Your liver can't process it, your bowel can't process it. You are going to hold on to it and it's going to store in the body. So before any chelation or detox, worst you have to do this. So liver, think like McDonald's milk thistle, dandelion knack, castor oil, packs, kidneys, hydration, nettle leaf, cranberry, astragalus, electrolytes, lymph, dry brushing, rebounding sauna, red light bowels. Right. Going two times a day. Magnesium, bitters, sometimes betaine. Htl. Right. So you can't drain a swamp with clogged pores. And so you may need binders. Once your drainage is open, you may want to think about something like edta, dmps or something like fulvic cumic acid or clays, clay binders and even modified citrus pectin. So some of these are really, really important. And then don't forget the sauna and some of your biohacks that can help even mitochondrial support. So that's how I would tackle it. It can be like a full on drainage detox for you if you're really having symptoms. And it started with a dye.
Yep, that's it. Okay, we got five minutes left. So I'm gonna try to get through some rapid fire questions. Can I still complete vibrant testing while on hormone replacement therapy during IVF?
Absolutely, 1,000%. It will not interfere with environmental toxins and heavy metal testing? Of course it would if you were doing the vibrant hormone zoomer, but we don't have to worry about that here.
How, how about Candida? How do I get rid of it? Even with ketoconazole and hormone cream, I've had difficulty getting rid of Candida.
Well, you know, the emotional reason for Candida is something's eating you up inside, like out in life. And then on top of that, you know, the Candida is there digesting something. Do you have heavy metals? Do you have BPA or pla microplastics? Why is it there? And then, you know, obviously we really want to look at the diet, curb the sugar and seed oils and things like that. You've probably already done that. But for me, I would really be looking at your nervous system and drainage and. Why do I say nervous system so much? I already talked a little bit about it. But the nervous system is so important, you guys, until you get that set and you're still releasing cortisol and adrenaline, the pathogens live off your adrenaline in your body. So sometimes that's why you are hospitable to them and they keep returning.
Yeah, this is a great question. What can you do to treat repeated sore throats, strep throats and other common colds, illnesses that are so commonly given antibiotics? Whoever submitted that question, can you alert yourself to my team? If you're not a vip, I'm going to give you a VIP membership. This is so close to my heart because there are so many young kids and sorry to jump in front of you, Dr. Petros, there's so many young children that are having their tonsils taken out, that are having their adenoids removed because they have mold and mycotoxin poisoning that is causing repeated sore throats. If you have a child that has repeated strep throat infections, more than one a year, multiple strep throat infections, please get them tested for mold or mycotoxin. Again, whoever submitted that question, just notify yourself to the team. I'm going to give you a VIP membership at no cost. I want to get to know you. I'm going to help walk you or your loved one out of this because this is one of the, one of the most common reasons why children are having their tonsils removed. Their adenoids widen and they're being bombarded and blasted with antibiotics. And, you know, before my wife Sage and I got together, her, her daughter had this situation was just being blasted with antibiotics. And it just bought us so many problems down the road. It was, it was ridiculous. So I'd really like to help walk you or your family out of it, but if you want to take a stab at that, that would be great.
Of course. That's so nice, Gary. So, so first and foremost, besides mold, which you definitely need to test for, also look, they'll look. They'll test for strep, but they often don't test for reactivated mono with a mono spot. And it's often piggybacking together these two. Later on, it can develop things like pans and pandas for children, which is a pediatric neuroencephalitis disorder caused by strep. So I really rely on some homeopathy kits for Epstein Barr and strep that I've been absolutely remarkable in their success. For me, the other thing you want to look for is find a practitioner who does something called neural therapy. Neural therapy is using procaine, which is a local anesthetic, and homeopathics that are like liquid acupuncture. They talk to the body and they inject the tonsils. Even after you've had your tonsils removed, you can still inject the scar tissue, the ring of wald deer. And the tonsils here are the heralding organs of the lymphatic system. So you, when you inject them with liquid acupuncture called homeopathy, it drains the whole system. Yes, I've seen it a hundred times. I've had it, too. I can inject tonsils. And actually, if you're in Florida, my friend Dr. Hadar Elbaz will travel all over Florida to inject people with neural therapy. You can inject scars and tonsils because scars also hold the trauma of what sustained them, and they don't let the neurons fire properly in the nervous system. So you can see if you're in trouble with a kid who they say has to have their tonsils removed. Don't go do it without some neural therapy first, guys. Okay, neural N, E, U, R, A, L. Neural therapy, guys.
On a scale of 1 to 10, how are you feeling after that Q A with Dr. Jessica Petross? Can you just put a 1 to 10 in there?
I hope you guys liked it and it helped.
There we go. Yeah. So, Dr. Petros, this has been absolutely brilliant. You've given people, you know, hope that there's answers out there, and even when they've been told there's, you know, everything is normal and they know that something's off. So, you know, what I love about your approach is you don't just test for the sake of testing. You're creating a roadmap to show people exactly what's in their body and exactly how to get it out safely. So where can people find out more about you or your work or get in touch with you or if you're actually interested in working with Dr. Petros, you're welcome to.
Yeah, so, guys, there's levels to working with me. I post a lot on Instagram and I get a lot of free health information on there. I really appreciate Gary for pushing our message further along in the population because we need this in functional medicine. I also have a website, Dr. JessMD.com. i have a membership called Wellness plus, where I teach you how to be your own best doctor. It's wellnessplus.com and if you'd like to see me in clinic, I would love to see you and help you guys. I love meeting you, all of you. And it's Dr. Jess D R Jes Health. You'll see one of my expert members first, my experts, who make sure we're a good fit for each other. And then you can book a package with me if it feels right to you. But you guys, you can become your own best healer and you can reverse these things that they're not a sentence for the rest of your life. I've seen amazing things happen.
That's so amazing. Everyone on my team is dropping Dr. Petros, Instagram, her website, and all of her resources in the chat right now. Follow her. You can learn from her. She's one of the brilliant minds actually solving complex cases that other people have given up on. And if you're one of those people that's been diagnosed with something like an autoimmune or you have some symptoms that you just can't put a finger on, don't give up. You know, you're not as sick or diseased or as pathological as you've been told. You may be nutrient deficient or you may have one of these critters hiding in your body. So, Dr. Petros, thank you so much for sharing your expertise and for the incredible work you're doing to help people get their lives back.
Harry, I can't thank you enough for having me. I'm so honored. Thank you so much for all the information you're putting out for people. You make my job easier.
Thank you so much. All right, guys, Dr. Petros has to jump off before we transition to the vip. And I really would encourage you guys this. Today's the day to upgrade to VIPs. We gave. We gave away 3, 500 packages yesterday. I've got great giveaways today. It's 97amonth. I take a deep, deep dive with this group. I also built a 10 month course on becoming the ultimate human. And rather than sell this course to the public, I just give it to my VIP. So hopefully you'll go over to theultimatehuman.com VIP and join us for the rest of the 90 minutes. But before we go, I want to quickly go back to the whiteboard and show you my personal vibrant wellness test. This is something that I just decided to be very vulnerable about because I know we're running over time, and I apologize. But I just want to give you all the information I can in the. In the free portion of this event before we go over to the vip. So if we can just shoot over to the whiteboard. Is it on? I think so. This is page five and space, five and six. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, guys, this. This is my test. And this is very scary. And some of you that may have gotten this vibrant wellness test done, you might be facing the very same thing. So I just wanted to show you this so we didn't create panic. You know, if you've gotten your test results back or you actually found out that you had a heavy metals. So this is my test. There's my name, my date of birth. This was on the 15th of January of this year. So I ran the great world race in November with my son leading up to that race. All through that race, the seven marathons, seven continents, seven days, I was drinking four or Five liters of this water a day, and it was just laden with heavy metals. And so I got severe heavy metal toxicity. You can see the levels of tin, thallium, trillium. And then right up here, look at aluminum, arsenic, and beryllium. Look at the levels of these three metals. They were off the charts. Hopefully you can. Can they see these? I'll blow them up nice and big, because if I can get heavy metal toxicity, I promise you, you can. And again, I am so intentional about my water, about my air, about my food, about seed oils, about packaged ingredients and preservatives, and just. I'm very intentional. And I was. I was shocked by this. I overlaid this test on the test results that came out of this machine that I was drinking the water from. And they were superimposable. So at least I knew the source. But barium, antimony, these are. These are heavy metals. And, you know, I thankfully, you know, I have a background as a human biologist. And what I started to realize was I was waking up in the morning, and I would stand up out of bed and I would get a little woozy, and I was like, wow, is that blood pressure issue? Is it. Is it a. Is it a hyposystolic issue? Is it. You know, is it my blood sugar? And then my fingers started to tingle during workouts. Sometimes my lips would actually tingle a little bit. And I did feel off. I felt like brain fog. For maybe the first time in 10 years, I consider myself pretty acute. I don't usually have brain fog. And it dawned on me that this was either a mold toxicity or a heavy metal toxicity. So I did this test. This is why this challenge is so near and dear to my heart. So I want you to see the ranges of all of these, right? See how these are just massively high in the range. And I want you to see my next test, which was data service. So there we go. We're going to blow this up so you can actually see in two months where. There it is. You can actually see what I was able. I mean, look at the aluminums. Less than 3. I mean, I got them all back down into normal ranges. The only one that's still hovering up there is this. Tin is a little high. That one was off the charts. But the antimony, the barium, the bismuth, these other aluminum, arsenics and beryllium, these were the nasty heavy metals. My symptoms went entirely away, and I did exactly what I write about in this detox guide. That's why this ultimate challenge detox guide Even if you're not upgrading to the vip, this is your guidebook. I wrote this to be a manual, not a magazine. It's not something to be perused. It's something for you to really study. If you find that you have this on your test and you follow this, you will be able to get these and clear them out of your system. So thank you guys so much for giving me your time today. It's just a blessing to be able to share this information and to be able to make an impact and bring these practitioners on. So let me jump onto this camera real quick. So if day one opened your eyes, guys, day two just handed you the keys. So now you understand that guessing is just going to keep you sick. Testing is what sets you free. And if you. If you don't have the financial wherewithal for the testing, start putting money away until we can get to the point where you can actually just get that test. Because the solutions are not expensive. So Dr. Petros just showed you that your symptoms are not mysterious. They're measurable. You know, those unexplained health issues, they have names, they have sources, and most importantly, they have solutions. And so here's where I want you to understand that knowing what test to run is just the beginning. Knowing how to interpret them and how to act on them is how we would create a safe detox protocol that's based on the results that you get from this testing. That's where the real magic happens. So our VIP session starts in just a few minutes. I've been hydrating, so I've got to run to the restroom, but it starts in just a few minutes. And this is where I'm going to share something I've never shared publicly, which is the rest of my own testing journey. The shocking results that changed everything for me. You're looking at some of those on the board right there. The test that revealed why I felt like garbage despite being very healthy. So I'm going to walk you through the rest of my test results so you can see what those numbers really mean, how you can track your progress, what benchmarks matter, and the advanced modalities that can accelerate your healing when your body is just too toxic to detox on its own. Plus, I'm going to give away three more VIP gift boxes today. They're each worth over $500 with all of the exact supplements that support safe, effective detoxification. So if you're ready to stop guessing and start measuring, if you want to see the actual roadmap to get your health back. There's still time to join us. Just click that upgrade link and join me in the VIP for everyone staying with free content. You've taken a huge step today. Tomorrow is our final day with Dr. Josh Axe. He's going to be joining us to talk about the exact daily protocol to support your detox pathways naturally. So until then, remember what Dr. Petra said. You can't detox what you don't measure. So if today resonated with you, if you recognize yourself in any of the symptoms that we discussed, consider getting tested. Okay? Your body's been trying to tell you something and maybe it's time to listen. So, VIPs, let's take a five to ten minute break. We're going to use go use the restroom, do some breath work, get some more water, and I'll see you back on the zoom in five to ten minutes.
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