John Stephens Recap: Learn how to do the impossible
11 Jun 2022 · 7 min
This is a short podcast recap by James Laughlin (episode dated June 11, 2022) summarizing an interview with John Stevens, CEO of Boma. Key themes: leadership as public influence and responsibility; the power of micro-wins (small, frequent goals) as motivation toward large ambitions (example: enrolling 100 female entrepreneurs as a micro-win toward ending extreme poverty); solution-focused leadership that assigns timelines and price-tags to large problems (move 100-year goals into 10–20 year horizons). Practical CTAs include setting weekly micro-wins, leaving podcast ratings/reviews, joining a 2026 goal-setting workshop, and attending an upcoming HPL event in Christchurch, NZ (guest Kieran Read). The podcast emphasizes optimism, agency, and concrete planning for systemic challenges.
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John Stevens, CEO of Boma.
Habits of High Performers.
The 2026 goal-setting workshop.
Christchurch, New Zealand.
Kieran Read (former All Blacks captain).
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My last guest was John Stevens, the CEO of boma. And what he's doing with his movement is just simply inspirational. So I wanted to give you guys a little recap, some leadership highlights that you could carry on into your life based on what him and I chatted about. And look, their mission is monumental. They want to end extreme poverty. That is incredible. And he truly feels that it is achievable. So first things first, people are truly paying attention to the work that you're doing. Whether that's at a community scale, whether that's at a corporate scale, maybe even national or globally, the things that you do to make a difference with the skill set that you have, somebody's paying attention to what you're doing, how you're doing it, how you're carrying yourself, the impact that you're having. So never forget that someone is watching. You don't mean that in a creepy way, but whatever you're doing, people are watching. They're either admiring what you're doing or they're learning about how to not do it if you're doing it poorly. So whether that's a child around you, whether that's a partner, whether that's a colleague, whether that's a potential client, people are always watching what you do. So as you go about your day, just remember that you are a role model. You are a leader, you do have influence. And it's a responsibility to carry that with dignity, integrity, pride, whatever your values are, it's important that you consistently show up as that leader and give yourself the grace to have a bad day, a bad moment, and then come back from that and ask yourself, how could I do better next time? So important next, big takeaway there from John was you need to keep people connected to the small wins. And look, I call them micro wins. Often we're chasing big goals. Whether it's 10 figures this year, whether it's, as John's trying to do, end extreme poverty, whether it's to become the next prime minister, or president, whatever it is, those are big goals. But along the way to getting big goals, we need micro goals. I was talking with a client recently and he was saying, look, I just need some little wins. I need. I've had no wins recently and it's starting to get to me. It's starting to really hit my psyche. And so we started to set a path of, hey, well how about you did this this week, that would be a micro win, right? So you've got to get clear on what a micro win is. So for John, who's trying to end extreme poverty, for him, that's maybe getting another 100 female entrepreneurs in Africa on board to his program that help them become more autonomous and independent. That's a micro win. It's a huge win on many levels. But for him, it's a micro step towards achieving the unachievable in many people's eyes. So what are your micro wins? What do you want to do this week? That would be a little win that, that gives you motivation, gives you that self belief. Identify your micro wins, write them down, pop them on a little note. If you're on your phone right now, pop them on your, on your phone in a note. And in fact, if you're on your phone, I'm going to ask you to do one thing, if you haven't done so already, please leave me a rating and review on Apple podcasts or Spotify. It just helps me to impact so many more leaders. So I really appreciate if you could take just a moment to do that. The last takeaway from John, this was a huge one. Just put a price tag on it and figure out what it takes. You know, he was saying that often we've got these massive, massive challenges and we put a hundred year goal on it, but what he's saying is we need to bring that to 10 or 20 years at most. These things need to happen because there's so much happening with climate, there's so much happening with extremism. We need to make big moves now. So whatever it is you're trying to do in your life, just put a timeline on it, put a price tag on it and figure it out. We want solutions focused, right? As a leader, we focus on solutions. We don't want the scarcity mindset, we don't want that victim mentality. It's like, hey, where are we headed? What do we need to get there? Cool, let's do it, let's figure it out. That is true modern leadership. That is truly what we need you to be doing. In your industry, in your community, at your family level. So I want to challenge you this week. What are you doing to figure out how to combat the biggest challenges around you? What is the challenge you're trying to move towards and solve? If you don't know that, that's something I want to ask you to think about. What is something that you see as a problem or a challenge in your family, community, country that you know you could actually make a difference and help solve? Could be at work, could be with your team, could be with your senior managers. What is a challenge that you just need to put a price tag on it and figure out what it takes to solve it. So I hope you enjoyed that. Quick recap. If you get a chance, go back and listen to the interview with John Stevens from Boma. He's doing incredible work in Africa and has helped ten tens of thousands of women become entrepreneurs self sufficient. It's just amazing. The story is phenomenal. So guys, have the most amazing week. I'm gearing up for HPL in a few days time. Super excited for that, doing that here in New Zealand, in Christchurch, I've got people ranging from people who are just starting in business to people who are running companies with 2 and 300 people, to people who've been running multi billion dollar businesses in the past. So real great collection of people. And Kieran Reed's my special guest for the day. Kieran was the former CA captain of the All Blacks, which is New Zealand's rugby team. For those of you who are not Kiwis, he was a really great leader for one of the world's best sports teams. So he'll be there as well to share his ideas around high performance leadership. Right now I want to challenge you to get out there and lead your life on purpose.
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