ETM Bonus: Dr Barry Auchettl What is happening in the world?

Welcome to Exit the Matrix Stories of Success with your host Jane Slack-Smith, where we celebrate the incredible journeys of individuals who've transcended their limitations and achieved extraordinary success.

Barry, thank you so much for joining me on this incredible experiment that I'm going on. Welcome!

Looking forward to it, Jane. It'd be interesting what comes up.

Yeah, look, here's the thing, right? I'm going to put— give you some context here. Um, I'm planning on writing this book, What's It Like to Live from Your Heart? A Complete Aligned Life Full of Abundance with Limited Possibilities. But I realized that that kind of sounds way out there, like in the future, right up here. And a lot of people are sitting at the moment just feeling this kind of unease and like, you know, even guilt. You know, I've got, I've got this great life, but I feel something's missing. Like, should I just suck it up? And I'm— the way I'm structuring the book is I'm talking about this awareness stage and then taking people to that, you know, awakening state with some tools and things they can use, and then taking people to that activation state, how they can live in that. And then, you know, potentially there's actualization or whatever it is beyond that. But it made me think about a discussion that you and I had like almost 5 years ago when the incredible Martine introduced us. And I recall that you had been talking me through, you know, some of your work and how, you know, where you see humanity and people's individual experiences and how you use a, you know, a certain methodology in doing that. And I just have to say personally, like, thank you. When I was locked in my room, you know, suffering the dreaded virus back in 2020, I, I did your, um, vision, uh, course about having clearer eyesight vision and then leading to, you know, clearer vision in all things. So first of all, thank you for that. But, um, excited to chat to you.

Look, it's exciting topic, and eyesight was where I originally started. Yeah, I mean, just to sort of give you some background where, where I was at, this is only 10 years ago now. Yeah, is I'd done a lot of spiritual work. Like, I, I'd improved my eyesight, uh, I found a, a brain tumor in the middle of the brain, so that sort of was the setback. And I was meditating and doing all the right things and, you know, doing all the high vibrational aspects. And yet I found myself 10 years ago, even though I thought that I had raised my vibration really high, I was in a situation where I was now divorced, out of a relationship, out of money, uh, not really living my purpose, you know, struggling with work. And my health was really struggling because I actually had another operation and had some really severe setbacks because of these operations. So I was in a state of really struggling, saying, what's going on here? If you're supposed to be, you know, spiritual and then everything turns up, where is it? Where's my stuff?

It's interesting. Can I just—

look, quantum—

so I think you and I have something similar here. In 2019, I was diagnosed with a pituitary gland tumor.

Yep, that's the one I had as well. Yes.

So it's 1 in a million, right? There's only like 25 of us in Australia.

Wow.

So isn't that interesting? It was kind of, uh, you know, I guess that is part of that kind of awakening, uh, period for both of us.

Yeah. And when they— I don't know about you when you had your first one, but mine was back in '93, and they literally wanted to go through the brain and open my whole brain up. It was like really barbaric. By 2008, they got a bit more civilized, and there was less invasive techniques available at that point.

Yeah, mine just went up through my nose and grabbed it and came down.

Yeah, that's what they ended up doing ultimately.

Yeah, you know, I, I just sharing something here, but one of the things that I did, like, it was a week before the operation, I thought, being someone who likes hacking success, I thought, I wonder if I can hack a successful operation. And a friend of mine, Medine, I was chatting to her and she said, oh look, I'm going to this like day meditation thing and this guy has, you know, cured himself of all these, you know, cancers and things, but you know 'Come along and do some meditation.' I was like, 'Okay.' But in the break, I met his wife, who was a GP, and I said to her, 'Is there a book you'd recommend?' Because I'm doing— going to surgery. And she gave— she recommended a book, and I downloaded the visualization. And the visualization for surgery was, you know, visualize that the surgeon's going into the area where the issue is, the blood moves away, the surgeon can easily take out everything that's a problem, And good blood comes back and it, you know, it rejuvenates the area well. And it's funny, they wheeled me into the operation and all their operations during the day had gone late and they wheeled me in at 6 o'clock and it's supposed to be a 3, 4-hour operation. And at 8 o'clock I've woken up in the recovery and I said, and the neuroscientist there, and I'm still on morphine and, you know, they try to talk to you at that time. And I said, oh my God, did something go wrong? It's only 2 hours. And he said, it was the most amazing surgery ever. I cut in there and the blood moved away. Cut out the tumor. And it was just like, great. I said, oh, I did that. He said, no, I'm the neurosurgeon, I did that.

Yeah, I know.

And I was like, oh, I— and I told him subsequently about it. He's like, I think I might tell my other clients about this patient because it made surgery so easy. So yeah, that kind of meditation, it kind of gave me a validation of how we can control even our physical, um, Interesting, right?

Yeah, no, totally. I, I get that. And I remember I actually ended up telling the surgeon where all the nurses were, who was in the room, what was happening, uh, and I had a bird's eye view at one point explaining to them what was going on during the operation.

So, okay, so you're definitely awakened. So let's come back to the awareness part. So you, 10 years ago, you—

it was the eyesight and Yeah, look, I, I, I'd managed to get out of glasses through natural means and I had set up a business called Eye Power, which was really a vision improvement service.

Yeah.

And, but I was still trying to work out this thing about, you know, why was I not in relationship, have enough money, my health was struggling and my father passed away and I ended up with about $20,000 at the end of all this, you know, like even my siblings took me to court and it was like really messy. And people said, well, you should invest this money. And I said, I'm going to. I'm going to invest it by taking myself around the world. And I took myself around the world and met some amazing people, some people who are famous, and really in particular some people who no one knows about, who I just happened to meet at certain points. Yeah. And I came home and I realized But there was a difference for me between vibration and frequency, and that difference has changed everything in my life. When we can understand and work on both vibration and frequency—

can I just take you back? When you went on that trip, did you set an intention to open yourself up to these experiences? Like, were you very intentional on those introductions? Because I think playing with that sense of intention too Yep.

Um, the intent was that I wanted a sacred journey, right? And so the two things I was after was a sacred journey and fun. Like, everything that I did, if it didn't hit fun or being sacred, I didn't do. Got it. And I also had a yes policy. So if I was invited to something and it was on my way I said yes to it. So it was really about extending my boundaries about, you know, what I was comfortable or not comfortable with.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay. Cool. Cool. Wow. Okay. Great intentions. And so you came back—

great.

You came back with this frequency and vibration understanding this.

I came back— well, I came back with a recognition that the two were separate. Yeah. And so when I sat with it, I looked at vibration to start with, cuz that's the obvious one. That's the one we all hear about. And There was a man by the name of David Hawkins who brought out the, the Hawkins scale they talk about, which was really a scale from 0 to 1,000. And the idea is we, we try to get as high as we can on the scale, recognizing that most of us were probably around about 500. That's, that's where people were getting to.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna go find this and I'm gonna bring it up whilst you're talking to it.

Okay. I've actually got your numbers in front of me, so there you go.

Oh, cuz I know that you did for me previously. Okay, so here we go.

I'll look at those shortly. I'll explain the outline then.

Yeah, this— can you see this? Is this kind of right?

Yeah, this is, this is sort of it. I, I, I think the fifth dimension at 540 is— I think it's actually higher than that, to be quite honest.

Okay. All right.

The numbers on the left— the numbers on the right, you know, 550 is about inner love, and 600 gets to peace and presence. That's really the two numbers that A little bit different. And they talked about Buddha and, and Jesus and all those being in the 800s, 900s, you know, really enlightened people.

Wow. Okay. So, yeah, could we start down here? Is this like a measurable vibration? Like, you know, this is where the planet was 2,000 years ago. Scientifically vibration measurement, or is this kind of an intuitive vibration? Like, how is that?

Um, it was done through a kinesiology group. Um, and so it's been measured by more than one person. And, and when I work, I, I often get other people to measure it as well. So it's not just me saying things.

Okay.

It's okay. We've got to remember where we are. Well, where we are at the moment, and this is the interesting thing, 2,000 years ago, you know, we had these divine people at 700, 800, and the planet was about 20 or 30. You know, they're still shooting each other and killing each other for food and doing all of that. So the gap between where the Buddha and the Jesus and, and those sort of people, the gap between them and everyone else was such a huge gap.

Mm.

And then over the years they said if we could get the planet above 200, that would start to make a real change on the planet. Right. But that was the line. Now to me, I, I think 500 would be a great number. Yeah.

Let's go high.

But 200, we got the average on the planet as 200, right?

Ah, uh-huh.

Now what happened is I've been measuring this over the last 3,000 years and we've measured dates. And I had a religious historian come up to me and all the numbers I had for various time periods over the last 3,000 years, he was able to say, yes, the peak was because of this happened, or it didn't grow much, it was because of this, you know. These things happen in the world. So it was fascinating to have a look at how the changes occurred until the year 2000, where we actually reached the number 197.

Oh, okay. So in 2,000 years, we've gone from 20 to, to 197.

Yeah, that's it.

Wow.

But it's still a, you know, consider we've been around for 20,000, 100,000 years.

And the correlation, isn't that interesting that there was this, the correlation was so obvious between major worldwide events or—

Fascinating. We, we had a great time. We went for hours talking about, you know, different periods in historical periods of, you know, reformations and all these things where it would jump or would not jump because people were shooting each other still and things like that.

Okay, so if the, if we're at this 200, where, where's most of—

Well, no, we weren't. We're at 197 in 2000. That's where we're at.

Got it.

So 197, and then in, um, 2023, at the end of 2023, when I started measuring this really seriously, the number on the planet was 199. So in the first quarter of this century, we've gone from 197 to 199. In other words, with all the big advancements that we think we've had, it's only gone up 3 points until the beginning of last year.

For 25 years we've gone up 3 points. Okay.

Yeah. Right. Now what's fascinating is on the 1st of January, and I didn't expect the 1st of January, I'm not one for believing things happen on a certain date, but on the 1st of January when I measured it, it came out at 200 for the first time.

Last year, 2024. Okay, wow. Which is kind of like the number of where big shifts are, right?

That's the number where they think things are going to start moving, right? And in actual fact, it stayed at 200 until only a few months ago in November of '24. Then this is after the US election, so, you know, I was expecting not much to happen after that. But after the US elections, and because of the need for a change on the planet, the vibration on the planet went from 200 to 204. Hmm. In one year?

In less than a year, it went up 4. Okay.

Less than a year.

And this has been like other people have come and said, we've measured. Yes. Okay. So this is—

yeah, I've, I've got my whole team who've measured. We've measured this to, to—

okay. Other people say— all right, so we're over that 200 mark.

We're over the 200, but what's even— I think is even more fascinating is that we went all of a sudden in a month, we went from 200 to 204. Yeah. Because in October we're still at 200.

Yeah.

And then we've hit 204. Now by 230— I'm sorry, 250, because I thought, where are we going to be in the next quarter of a century?

2050.

Yeah, 2050. The number that's coming up is somewhere between 230 and 250, so an average 240.

Wow, something big.

It is massive what's going to be happening over the next few years.

Okay, all right, okay. So let me just think of this in context of, of, of where we are in the— according to this David Hawkins scale and people who can, um, receive this information or get this information, we have this process over 2,000 years where we've got up from like 20 to 197, and then in 3 years we've gone from 197 to 200, and in about a month—

well, in actual fact, more than 3 years. That was really 24 years it took us to get from—

oh, 24 years. Okay, 24 years for the, the 3, and now within like a month we've like popped over this 200 mark. So, so if I kind of correlate this to what I'm feeling and, and, and sensing where I'm talking to so many people going, there's an unease, there's a, there's a like, you know, is this it? Is, uh, you know, are we on the right path? And, you know, there's all these wars and geotensions and like, is this kind of where— is this kind of correlating to that? Like, people feeling like— where are most people in that scale? Are people also on the scale of 200 in the world, or are people individually Can we— we can be measured individually? I know you did.

Oh, we do. We— and I measure individually. So my programs, they need actually to be around 500 to get into the program, right?

And where are most people? Where's 500? Where are most people?

Most people are still less than— well, the average is still that 200. So depending on where you are in the world, you would have people still down around 50 to 100 to 150.

You know, and can you correlate that to different, like, I don't know, uh, different things or countries?

Exactly. They would have different things depending on the energy of how much they're opening. You said it right at the start. A really key word that you said was awareness. You know, you have this awareness, and even though there's a lot of strife out in the world at the moment, to me, this is still about awareness that people are saying, We want something more than what we've got at the moment. Mm-hmm. We wanna start making change. We wanna start being the light in the world. We've come here to lighten the world, not to bring it down. Mm-hmm. And there's a, an old paradigm, if you like, of people and a lot of old politicians out there, et cetera, where they're just hanging onto the old paradigm.

Mm-hmm.

And, and what we're finding is that they won't be able to hang on to it. They're trying to have a tight grip on it and it's not working. So there's a short-term pain, I think, associated with that for a lot of us. But I see that what this is, is really, it's like a 5-year-old who's been told to play with their toys, doesn't want to, but at some point they have to play with their toys.

Yeah, okay.

You know, it has that sort of a change now. If we have this change, and one of the things I do agree with, the, the chart that was there is we are making this transformation from 3D into 5D. Mm-hmm. And so that means just a higher consciousness that we are all going to have. Okay. Now, is everyone on the planet going to have that? No. Okay. Alright.

Okay.

So there will be people on the planet And, and I actually see in the testing that I've done that 5D, really, we want to get over 1,000. Because when the David Hawkins—

is there over—

wow.

Okay.

Yes, I have. I'm currently have trained over 200 people to be over 1,000. And, and this wasn't available when David Hawkins did this 40 years ago because the planet wasn't ready for it and we couldn't do it then. But 10 years ago, I would've said this was impossible. You know, 1,000's it. But we actually have people now well over 1,000.

And what do you call that?

We actually meet every— sorry?

What do you call that? What's over 1,000?

Pretty cool group.

People I want to know. World Changers.

Yeah. No, honestly, it is such a cool group to have. Like, every fortnight we come together and I run a program and we're actually looking at the galactic council. We're looking at how the various starseeds work and how that supports us at this high vibrational level. Wow. So only people who have a vibration over 1,000 can get into this class.

And the fact—

that's why I ran Life Is Your Mentoring. I guarantee people—

we had the spiritual leaders at 800, but the difference was 800, basically.

Yeah.

And now we're at 500. So I'm imagining the spiritual leaders are at the kind of 1300 or above, like that.

Just well above. Yes. Yeah.

Wow. Okay. Interesting.

Because this is exponential. So what this is saying to me is that we are now have the capacity, us ordinary people, not just the, the few people out there, you know, the Buddhas and, and the Jesus out there, but we all have that capacity to get over in a thousand. And I've seen— I actually literally know hundreds of people who have a vibration over 1,000, and I think that's a pretty cool— and what that means is that life just flows better. Like, we, we respond to life rather than react. You know, an example for me is Nancy and I went around the world for 2 months, and we're at airports, and whenever there was a security, we either had no line or if we're in a line, they would call us out personally and start a new line with us.

Oh wow, that's the way to travel, you know.

Like, that was sort of how it happens, the magic in life to start. Yeah.

So can I just bring this back? So you mentioned vibration and frequency being different. We've talked about vibration. I want to get back to that, but how does frequency overlay with that? Like, what's that— what's that mean?

Yeah, that's right. So with the vibration, I used the David Hawkins scale and expanded that for above 1,000. That's what I did. Mm-hmm. When I looked at frequency, now, now vibration's about our beingness, our, you know, connection to spirit. Our frequency is our outer world. It's our doingness. So it's really got to do with money, health, relationships, and living our purpose. Mm-hmm. You know, how can we attract people that we go to work with, make money, relationships? And look after our health. And there was nothing out there. So I actually had to create that. And so I created a chart that simply went from 0 to 100, you know, nice simple maths for me. And thinking if we get above, you know, get to 100, that would be it, you know, a bit similar. I thought getting to 1,000 would be it on the David Hawkins scale. Now what happens with frequency is when you get above 100, You actually move from traditional frequency to a high conscious frequency, and then that number goes up to 1,000. So it actually correlates with the vibration and a higher conscious frequency.

And that's an external manifestation of your internal state. So it's like everything— so when I'm talking about creating a book of living from your heart and living the infinite possibilities of a life of abundance in all areas, this is like 100 and above. On the frequency.

Yeah, totally. You have to be. If you're not doing that, I wouldn't do it.

So do the internal work and then have the external manifestation.

Yep. And the key to this and the way I've lived my life is I have fundamental basis that's spiritually based, spiritually grounded in who I am and what I'm doing. Mm-hmm. And my purpose is to help bring light in the world. Mm-hmm. My goal is to have 700 people above 1,000 because that will then have an impact on the entire planet. Mm. All right. And so I'm, I'm staying here until I get over 700 people and we're expanding the numbers of people who are doing the program, which I call Life Vision Mentoring, until we can get to the stage where we've got each person over 1,000 and then they have an impact of 10 million people on the planet. That's what it measures at. And so you have a bigger impact. We get 700 people, then we've had a global positive impact on the world. Wow. And I think that's—

and I imagine, does it, does it happen like if a person's vibration goes up too, does it pull up their frequency? Like, is it always like this, or can you think—

most people are out of sync, by the way. They'll have one up and one high. So we all know people who are really spiritual, but they're broke and they're—

yeah, there's a lot of people like that.

We also know people who have a lot of money and maybe aren't the nicest of people of all time, so they're able to manifest it. So this is about your ability to manifest in the world. Uh, the vibration is an internal— now we want both. We want— ideally we want our vibration high and our frequency high. And when I did both of those what happens is you start creating this vortex in your life where magic happens.

Bring on the vortex.

Is about having both. Yeah. And so what I'm working with now with people is keeping people in the vortex full-time. Okay.

So that we completely actualize. So, so when I talk in the book about that, you know, awareness, awakening, activation, like, you know, acting, and this is like the unconsciousness of just being like in the flow, in the vortex. It all just come. Ooh. Okay. And is Is there any, um, I mean, obviously you've got a whole program behind this, but is there, um, which we'll, we'll include, um, below the video, or whoever's watching this in any place, go and check it out. Um, but just so I'm, I'm getting this, is that the frequency, raising the frequency and raising the vibration, are there different things you need to do to do that?

Okay. And there are interrelated, but the two key ones to get started so that people listening can get started tomorrow, right? Yeah.

Me.

Um, the first for, the first for vibration is meditation every day.

Uh-huh.

Like, that is the easiest way to start raising your vibration is by meditating.

Mm-hmm.

In terms of frequency, the easiest way to raise your frequency is through gratitude. Mm-hmm. And it's really hard to be feeling bad and grateful at the same time. So the gratitude is, is the one of the best ways to get it up. Now the other way is what I call emotional stability, which is a, is a program that we teach within the Life is Your Mentoring to how to stay emotionally stable even when, you know, things happen in life still. Think we get pushed and we get our buttons pushed and people die and all that. Life still's gonna happen. I'm not saying we're gonna be like, oh, it's all bliss now. We're able to handle it a lot better than maybe in the past.

Okay, interesting. That's great. So, you know, it's, it's, um, two of things that are hitting me. First is I'm thinking about all the people I've had these conversations with, and I'm seeing a lot of people that I'm connected with who might be, you know, a lawyer or a, a, a photographer, or, you know, all these different professions, and then all of a sudden they've started talking about their journey to meditation or conscious thinking, or, you know, it— there's— there is this kind of awakening that's, that's happening. And I love the fact that there's people in all these different areas and almost sometimes unexpected areas. Like, even, you know, I've got a mentoring client who's a GP who is writing a book about qigong and the The power of, you know, harnessing your internal energy for health and mental health and, you know, emotional resilience and everything. You know, the people who are, who are looking at these allied kind of mechanisms, and it's not expensive. There's breathwork, there's meditation, and there's gratitude. There's like drink some water, like walking. You know, none of this is, um, we don't need to have to go and buy something expensive Hello, just a quick message. I hope you're enjoying this podcast bonus session. Now, if you have heard this interview, then you're probably sitting in there going, what is this all about? Well, this is all about my Exit the Matrix experiment. Now, I decided to write a book because I'm really interested in how do we go from the existence that we have now to exiting the matrix and living with intention from our hearts, following our heart's desires, but also creating abundance in all areas of our lives. And hence, whilst I've been researching this book, I thought, this is a really solitary journey. I want people to come on this journey with me. And hence I've got this very special group. Now come and join me. The first month for founders is free. And if you decide Say fantastic. So what I'm doing is I'm interviewing incredible people. I'm getting insights about what's this awakening that people are getting, what is the exit the matrix kind of sliding door moment for them. Now, I've obviously run this podcast for over a year now, and I have more than 30 stories, but I'm also interested in those people who are in this transformational space who are actually not just awakening themselves, and they're awakening others. What is the mechanism? As Bashar talks about it, it's the permission slip. Are they going through astrology or meditation or yoga or breathwork? Are they just going within and getting a sense of what's really going on? So that's what all the Exit the Matrix experience is about. I'm going to let you get back to the interview, but if you want to join me, go to exitthematrix.today/ ETM with me, which stands for Exit the Matrix with me. So that's exitthematrix.today/etmwithme. Sign up. I'd love for you to come along. I'm creating courses. There's currently courses in there around 4D gratitude. There's more courses to come. I'm creating custom GPTs on how you can exit the matrix and helping you uncover what lies beneath your subconscious and holding you back. And also other custom GPTs that I'm sure you're going to love. And most of the speakers are actually really motivating me. So I'm creating courses, I'm creating ebooks, I'm creating experiments you can try, I'm creating tools that you can use, and I'm also writing a book. So at some stage I'll get to writing the book. At this moment it's just all about the research, and I hope you choose to join me because I'm really excited about this experiment. So I'll get back to the interview now. Enjoy yourself. And, uh, as always, here's to your success.

Now I even have a YouTube channel called, um, Life Vision Academy, and I have free programs on there where we get to clear blocks.

Yeah.

To enable some of this to happen. So that is available to everyone. Like, I, I believe it should be, we should have access depending on what we provide. And obviously I can't have every person knocking on my door and working with them individually. Yeah, but there's information available to start with on YouTube. There's low-end costs, and then people can dive into the mentoring program and then ultimately to global when they've got a vibration above 1,000. So wherever you feel like you fit, there's an option there to fit in.

Yeah. And, um, and, and I mean, that's what I really wanna do with this book, or the exploration that could become a book. Who knows? I have no attachment. Maybe it's not. And these interviews with people is that there's so much knowledge— no, no, there's so much wisdom in the world, and everyone's got just this little bit. And, you know, every time I speak to someone, I'm just completely in awe of their magnificence and their genius. But there's all these little, you know, linkages, even to the extent when you talked about, you know, these, these people of this higher realm at the moment who are, you know, off operating. I spoke to someone about his exploration in India, and he talked about meeting live, like, living saints today who have this ability to, you know, do the most incredible magic. I'm going to call it magic. And, uh, so there's these people who are walking amongst us, right, who are at this incredible level, who are, you know, bringing that changed the world right now. And being able to magnify that and pull them together in, you know, that group of 700, and being able to actualize those— that's extraordinary what could happen in the world.

And, you know, it is happening. You know, I see it happening, and I see these people— my goal is that these people surpass me, because that's how we can have a bigger influence in, in the world as well.

Um, okay, so a few years ago, you measured my level Now you said you've got it. I'd love to, I'd love to know, uh, where I was. Maybe we can even see where I am now. But, um, yeah, because we do that now.

I just, before I do that, I just had a thought when you're talking about this book and you're not sure about the book. My advice for you is yes, the book is important and you can put in links where all these videos could be available. As they read the book, they can pull the links up for the—

yeah. And, and you know, the, the reason I did this kind of experiment was I don't like writing in solitude. I don't, I don't enjoy writing. I, I get— and often it's Sunday mornings, funnily enough. Well, here we are, you know, um, kind of, you know, I, I get these kind of information and I kind of do like a stream of consciousness investigation and research. And then I like linking things and then writing about that. But, um, this whole concept of, um, you know, people have a book and at the back of the book there's a course and then they can do the course. I, it got me thinking, well, if people are going to have to wait a year for like the latest technology and information because I'm a slow writer, why not give them access to it now? And so I've got, you know, the group, the Exit the Matrix, um, writing experiment group, where people are joining me and, and doing experiments and doing— which I'd love to see what experiment we could come up with, people, but aligned to what you're talking about, but also listening to the these interviews because they're getting the wisdom now. And it's almost like you have a course now, right? Don't wait for the book to come out and then wait to buy the course. Like, now you're actually living it. And rather than being an authority who writes this, the— like, this is the way, you know, people kind of going on the journey with me and, you know, experiencing what I'm experiencing. And if the book doesn't even turn into a book or it changes completely, you know, it's the journey of actually bringing all this together. That excites me.

And it's actually what I did when I came home from that, you know, 10 years ago I'd been overseas. I came home and this Life is a Mentoring program was really just me. I was like, like I was ground zero. I worked on myself for 6 months.

Yeah.

And then people noticed and said, what's, what's different about you? What have you done? And, and then I actually ran the very first program. It was really family and friends' time.

Yeah. Yeah.

And then they had success and we're actually up to the 19th version of it at the moment because it's just kept going.

What I love is that you started with like the physical eye vision and then you've turned it into life vision. Like it's just so, it's just so in flow, right?

And so it really also, the other interesting thing is when I was 36, I, you know, and I'm very big on 9 years. And so it was 36, I'd set up I-Power. At 45, I'd set up the Conversations game, which is, you know, the game that's, uh, over there.

Okay.

And, uh, what's that? So I set that up. That's a, it's a board game I created called Conversations, which is another whole story. Okay. Yeah.

Right.

And then, and then that was at 45. At, uh, 54, I set up the Vision School and that's when I started running these programs. And last year I turned 63, and I've rebranded it to Life Vision Academy. I'm 54.

Maybe I'm doing things in nines as well.

So it is an interesting journey watching that, you know. I'm, I'm almost excited to see what's going to happen when I'm 72 now, you know. I know, I know.

I love that. I love that.

Yeah, because I'm going to come to you if you like, if you're happy to have your numbers. I'll give you your numbers and, um, And I just want people, before I do it, is these numbers are very individual.

Mm-hmm.

So one thing I don't normally do, and I don't like, well, I wouldn't have a group of people, let's measure everyone's numbers to see who's the highest because we're all on a path.

Yeah, of course.

So I, I just wanna acknowledge that, that we're all on a path and numbers are what numbers you have. That's it. Now, and what's interesting is when I measured you last year, and I did measure you last year, Um, your vibration was at 600 and it is still at 600. Now, 600 is good. Like, I don't wanna discount these numbers, but 600 is really high. And 10 years ago, you would've been the highest person I knew in terms of vibration.

Right? So I have to do some more stuff to get above 600, right?

There is a ceiling that people create. People create what I call a glass ceiling. In actual fact, I have a program called a Glass Ceiling Breakthrough Program.

Right.

And what happens is we get to a stage and we think, this is as far as I can go as me mortals, or because I'm not self-actualized yet, I can't go further.

And yeah, yeah.

And so what this tells me is you've managed to get there. You've managed to get up to 600, which is our presence. It's actually about peace. It's a great number.

I'm liking peace.

700 is the first stage of awareness and enlightenment. So it's still about 100 off that, which is not a lot. However, for 12 months since I did this, there hasn't been a change. And so there are what I called sabotages that go on, and these are subconscious. If you knew what they were, you would change them. It's the subconscious.

Get rid of the block, Barry. Get rid of the block. So you're telling me that people have, right? And we—

so I created a technique, I created a technique called Light Body Alignment where we can clear those blocks in a matter of seconds so that people can move forward, you know. So that's part of the reason the 6-month program, we might clear 200 of these blocks that are stopping you from actually moving forward. Ooh. And so there's something for you. I'm gonna suggest there is some, and your frequency, by the way, uh, which was at 75, is at 90, and I think you might have hit 90 at some point. So your frequency, your ability to manifest is really good. Like, people tell you what a great manifestor you are.

Yeah.

Right. I'm also, they tell me I'm lucky.

They tell me I'm lucky.

Yeah. Yeah. But I'm also going to suggest to you that you know that you could manifest a lot more than you're doing now.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's the difference.

Absolutely.

Well, so this is why it's not comparative to other people.

And you know what, just, just on that, it's interesting because I'm working with my, my coach William Whitecloud, and just last week, you know, there's always been this awareness that I have a scout role. Like, there's the pioneers, there's the, there's the people back in the villages, they're always going to be in the pioneers who are, you know, trying new things. And then there's the scouts who find the things that tell the pioneers. And it was just last week where we had this conversation, and he's like, gosh, you've— you're now the sign. You're the sign that the scouts follow. Like, you've now escalated in this kind of hierarchy of— and it's like, oh, I've never— I've never had that awareness of someone being, you know, the sign. Not that I'm the sign. I am the Messiah. All I can hear now is Monty Python. But I'm not saying that. But what I'm saying is, it's— it's interesting that I also received at that time, there was a block which was not receiving. Because for me it was around supporting others, helping others, bringing others, and seeing that as an obligation rather than letting myself receive and go and find things and allow others just to see the journey without attachment of their, um, their journey and their experience. And so being empowering people rather than supporting people, and that for me has been a very big, uh, revelation for my personal journey in the last, you know, and I, and I believe what you're saying is true.

It's no, no longer about one person coming to save us. This idea of waiting for someone to come and save us all.

Yeah.

But we're it. So it is about, in a way, seeing yourself as the Messiah or as someone who's aware or someone who's conscious and owning that, owning your own divinity. Mm. So that you can bring light to the rest of the world. That's what you're here for.

Yeah. So, and all that kind of like, I am, I am God, you know, you know, it seems being a good Catholic girl, it feels sacrilegious to say I am God. But the reality is in the Bible, you know, from what I can see and listen, you know, watching Neville Goddard's works, like I think it says, you know, you are God, I am God 76 times.

Like the message is that, and it says you could do, if Jesus came out and said, you can do more than what I've done, you know, like I'm just showing you this. Yeah. So when the, when the planet, when the energy of the planet is increased, which enables our vibration to increase, our ability to do miracles has actually increased as well.

So I can get past 90%, hey Barry?

Easily. But that is not difficult. That is not difficult.

I like that.

But you know, it's recognizing and, and the, the subconscious blocks and making a choice to move past those blocks. And you know, you're on that path, like, you know, my sense is at some point that's going to happen for you with or without anyone's help. Yeah. Like, you're sort of determined, I'm going to do this regardless. I guess what I do and what other people do is we just provide a way of speeding up the process a bit.

Well, you mentioned that there was something obvious, a block that was obvious to you.

I think it's about— number one is about you owning your own divinity. I think that's the main—

that sits well.

But that's it. So, so why I'll do this, and this will actually be good for everyone listening, we'll, we'll actually clear this one. Okay, so can you just say for me I acknowledge my own divinity.

I acknowledge my own divinity.

Okay, yeah, that's the stress. Well, I muscle tested that and that's a stress. All right, so there's a part of you that, yeah, I do, but not fully. Can you get that?

Oh, absolutely. I feel the Catholic girl going, divine?

Yeah, who are you? So notice we haven't used the word God. We're just owning the, the God part, that divine part within you, which You know, we're made in God's image. Yeah. Divine aspects are there. I, I've got a Doctorate of Divinity and I did a master's, a theology degree at Catholic University. So, you know, I understand, you know, this stuff.

Okay, good.

Right. And some people make that okay, you know, God, universe, source, whatever, however you define it, whatever people need to define it as. But really acknowledging your own divinity when we can do that. It really releases it from the shackles of let's play small, let's play small. And what's really cool is we're not gonna clear this for Jane now. Everyone listening, if you choose to, you can get it cleared yourself just by listening because the work that I do goes beyond time and space. It's 5th dimensional work. So in clearing Jane, we're actually gonna clear anyone who's listening to this as well. Mm-hmm. And as a practical thing, we've had people listening to the 3 Blocks to Money Flow, which was one of the courses I have, uh, on Life Vision Academy. Within 20 minutes, this one guy whose parents had disowned him 50 years earlier for being gay rang him up and gifted him $30,000. You know, with listening to a tape while I'm clearing the, these blocks. So this has a real tangible effect. I'm just letting you know for the people listening that it's gonna have an impact on you as well.

We are connected to all things, right?

We are connected. So the way I'm gonna do this, it looks like we're just gonna shift the— so you might just feel what's actually happening within your body.

Mm-hmm.

And we're shifting the vortexes, so we're making an alignment. We're not fixing anything. We're aligning your body the way it's meant to go, whatever that is. I don't know what that is. Yeah. Okay. Now I'll get you to say again, I acknowledge my divinity.

I acknowledge my divinity.

How does it feel saying that now?

Less. There's definitely less tension. I definitely— I feel, I feel like Um, in my feet and in my calves, I, I feel kind of like movement. Like, I feel like it's wanting to come up.

So the sorts of words people use would be like, lighter, you know, does feel different, not sure how. I can hear it in your voice. The voice sounded different, like you really actually believe it rather than just saying the words. And one of the things with this is recognizing that what I can do is help shift the energy associated with this, right? That's what we've done when we're doing that. Your role is to let go of the old stories, the old Catholic stories, or the stories you're not good enough, the stories of who you think you are, and to actually let those go. Mm-hmm. And so one of the things we recommend, and we've only just started doing that this year, is that statement You don't need to repeat it to believe it anymore. Mm-hmm. Like, it's clear that will hold forever now. Mm-hmm. But it'd be good to write that out, put it up on a wall somewhere so that when you go into, oh, the old Catholic background or wherever it is, you go, hang on, I acknowledge my divinity. That's really what's true for me now. Mm-hmm. So it's a great way of letting go the old story. The other thing that's came up only this year in some of my, um, journaling in, in developing this this year is one of the recommendations is don't do anything that you have an addiction to for the next 3 days. So if it's drinking, smoking, wherever it is, avoid that. Because what can happen is you can take this addiction about playing small and take it into the other addiction. So it almost feeds it, some put it somewhere else. So we're trying to avoid you taking the playing small part and putting it somewhere in the addiction.

Right. Got it.

So just for a couple of days, just eat healthy, drink healthy, all that sort of stuff, and have written up somewhere, I acknowledge my divinity. So this, and just see how your life changes.

This feeling that I have is that there's, there's, you know, in my legs there's kind of like movement, but there's a blockage coming up. Does that mean there's still a blockage or is it cleared?

Yeah, we, we still got, they're still there. I mean, people sort of say, just do, let's clear enlightenment in one session, right? And we could do it, and then probably our electrical systems would probably go like, what's going on here? And we maybe wouldn't cope with it. So, you know, I've been clearing now myself for well over 30 years, you know, and I'm still clearing stuff. You know, this is a life journey. And someone said to me the other day, she said, oh, I've cleared 200 things with you this year, you know, like, I think I'm done. And I said, well, I've done that for 20 years.

So we all these little things that just are underlying the onion skin and we just pull them off because we've had a life of many experiences, right?

But she said, that's why you're, you're at the space you're in. And I thought, well, I guess it's true. Like, we do get somewhere. We don't— it's not like, oh, I'm still working on myself. It's just part of life, part of that journey. And I saw Louise Hay getting worked on at 84 years of age, and I thought that was a great example. Yeah, you know, she said, I've still got a pulse, I've still got issues and stuff to deal with, and yeah, things like that.

So that's amazing. Okay, so, all right, so what we've, we've kind of experienced here is that where, where the world is at the moment, how the Hawkins scale and how, you know, your, um Vision School, you know, frequency scale is and, and how, you know, some simple techniques. And as I said, I'm going to share some of the information where people can contact you. Actually, we'll just say it's exitthematrix.today/drbarry, so we have it there. 30 people are watching this, so I'll, I'll put a link there. But, um, just in my kind of like the final kind thoughts in this is that people who are feeling this unease at the moment, it's actually reflective internally, but it's reflective externally as well. The frequency of the world is, is actually, you know, there is this only unease and unrest. And I think I, I heard yesterday that within a 24-hour news period, we receive more trauma news than we would have in our, uh, an entire year 20 years ago. Like, we, we're being bombarded with all of this negative stuff. So it's really about choosing that you're going to, you know, be someone of a higher vibration, of these, you know, internally, and be someone ever in a higher frequency externally, and watch that kind of abundance, you know, appear for you.

With the, with the frequency, what's really interesting is when I measured all the frequency originally, the average on the planet at the moment for frequency is still only about 25%.

Okay.

You know, like I thought it'd be 50, you know, and Spirit's gone like, it's 25%. And I've argued with this, and when I looked at why there is still such a large— there's a whole group of people have a frequency less than 10. On the planet, right? That pulls everything down. And the two groups that they associate with, one is fundamental religions and one is military. And you've got large groups where people are not allowed to think for themselves. And so both of those groups, to me, you know, there needs to be, I think, a transformation in how we do defense, a transformation how we do religion. So that people can take personal responsibility and raise their own frequency. And rather than, oh, don't listen to anyone, just listen to me, do what I tell you to do, don't have any individual thought, you know, where my sense is, make up your own mind. If you like this, terrific. If you don't, terrific.

Assume that you are. Um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stop this interview now because I really appreciate it. I think, you know, I've got a lot of information now that I can you know, help, uh, help me kind of put some thoughts together on this kind of, uh, awareness stage. And what if, with your permission, I'm going to have you back and we might run an experiment when, when I get to my research around the awareness stage, some experiments that people can do. And we might even do, you know, a, a couple of, um, talks around this blocking, unblocking, etc.

So I'll just mention lifevisionacademy.com. So if anyone's looking, where's Barry's work? Yeah, easiest place is to find it at lifevisionacademy.com. That's the only thing you need to know.

And what I'm—

contact me right there.

What I'm going to do now is I'd love to have a continued conversation about where we are in the world now. So, um, I appreciate you. I'm, I'm going to say part 2 is coming. I'm just going to turn off the recording. We'll go straight there. Thanks, Barry. Okay, we will go straight there.

Okay, we're going to have to make this another time because I've got visitors, so I'm going to have to—

Okay, do you want to, do you want to do 5 minutes on it?

You can do 5 minutes, yes, for sure.

Okay, Barry, part 1. We had an incredible conversation, frequency, vibration of the world. You know, we're, we're sitting here in 2025, we've got geopolitical tensions, we've got changes and all of these things coming out of the US. We've got at the moment, you know, Chinese frigates off Sydney. Doing live testing. Um, you know, there's all of these things happening. Is— have you had any insights or information, or can you receive information about, you know, what, what is happening in the world? And are we at a kind of— what's the big shift at the moment that's going to take us from 204 to 230?

Well, I think the, um, the biggest shift we're going to have is happening. And one of the key things I think we could be finding in the next few years is 400 years ago, people still thought the world was flat. And then we came together in little villages and things like that. And then we found that there was other people outside our village, and then eventually we got to the whole country, which was flat. Then we started traveling overseas, and guess what? The world's actually round.

Yeah.

And there's always— we've had this expansion of where we're going. Yeah. To think that the world is round is the end of the story, to me, is as naive as a caveman 10,000 years ago thinking their local village was the entire planet. Mm-hmm. And so where we're moving to now is I think we're actually moving off planet. I think the logical thing is, you know, there's all these reports now about UFO sightings and there's Congress stuff going on, and it feels to me like we're actually getting prepared for something. Like there's just Hits of what's going on. Mm. And part of this I think is recognizing that we actually belong to a, a bigger thing than just Earth itself. Yeah.

Okay. Interesting.

And that's gonna shake a lot of people up and a lot of people are scared about that because the, the nature is they're just gonna be frightened.

Sure.

Whereas I think I, I, I see a much more benevolent people here supporting us. Who will become public. And a lot of the stuff that's happened that have closed us down will all of a sudden will become, become earthlings, you know. It's like when I meet someone overseas and they're from Perth, we're virtually neighbors because we're both from Australia.

Yeah.

So I, I can see this, there seems to be something bubbling up, and it may be And sometimes it's a catastrophe, you know, what appears to be a catastrophe, you know, like the COVID shut everything down. Well, that did to me, showed me how well the planet can look after itself if it needs to. Mm-hmm. Because it started coming green again really quickly, and then we've sort of gone backwards again a little bit. But there is something definitely happening now, whether it's gonna be that or something else, but there we are in this process of change. And it feels to me that it's almost like we're going to divide the planet into those people who are aware and those people who are not. And we'll, we'll just keep to ourselves. Like, there's a lot of unaware people out there that I know nothing about because it's not part of my world and I'm not part of their world. So we're almost a line in the sands getting drawn about where, who are we and where, you know, where are we going? Okay. And I think the big change is gonna happen, you know, it is happening and they say by 2030, all the information I've had will be by 2030. I think it's gonna be before that, you know, this moving from 3D to 5D, moving from competition into cooperation, moving from fear into love. All this is what we're talking about when we say 3D to 5D.

So you're getting any clues for now, like 2025? Is there anything that's obvious?

That's, um, well, the big one has been this jump in the vibration is really going to rattle up what's normal, right? Right. So, you know, as you— I, I, I think about that first quarter of a century from 2000, 2025, thought, wow, we've had so much happen. And yet the numbers didn't go up that much. Yeah. In the next few years, you know, this is, we're gonna have constant increases in what's going on. Now, no one, even when I talk to spirit, they cannot put a date on, this is gonna happen on the 25th of February. Like, it's just doesn't operate that way because it's still connected to our group consciousness. Mm-hmm. So the best I believe we can do is stay positive, number one. Support each other through these changes, because some of them are a bit tough for people, and I know people are hurting. So we need to be showing compassion and supporting each other through these changes.

Beautiful.

And then when they do happen, don't go into fear. Know that these changes are ultimately going to support this planet.

Wow, that's great. Oh, I appreciate that. Well, thank you. I'm glad I, I asked and we had this little part too, um, because I think that, that positive expectation and knowing that there is a path forward when fear and doubt and darkness comes is, is obviously, um, you know, something to hold on to. There's that light, you know, that vision for us. So appreciate it. So thanks, Barry. I really appreciate you joining me and helping me explore, uh, this book. And, uh, yeah, I can't wait to check back in with you.

Looking forward to it. Thanks, Jane. Thanks, everyone. Bye-bye. Bye-bye, Finland! Thank you for listening to Exit the Matrix Stories of Success. Make sure you subscribe to future episodes at www.exitthematrix.io. Until next time, here's to your success!