Exit The Matrix with Me Experiment: Guest: ETM With Me: Becky Robbins | A True Creator

Welcome to Exit the Matrix Stories of Success with your host Jane Slack-Smith, where we celebrate the incredible journeys of individuals who've transcended their limitations and achieved extraordinary success.

Hello, it's Jane here, and I'm back with my crazy experiment Exit the Matrix with Me, where I'm letting you watch me do the research as I'm writing my book about How do we create abundance in our life? What holds us back? What is true abundance? And how do we keep on that path once we've tapped into it? And, you know, this has been a bit of a crazy ride. I've gone through a number of areas, and I'm kind of at this point at the moment where I'm gone through the people are kind of being aware of what's happening. There's some message or there's something feeling uncomfortable, or they attended a training, or they've heard, read a book, and they're like, something has to change. And then there's this messy middle about, you know, this grief of letting people go. How do I let people know I've changed my life up? What do we do and how we handle that messy middle? Then is what is abundance? And we're just getting to this awakening stage. And I had the absolute pleasure 2 months ago, by sheer synchronicity and, you know, a number of amazing situations, to interview Becky Robbins. And We got to chatting and I was just like, I have to speak to this woman because she can speak to every single one of these areas. And I just want to say that, you know, this is, this is absolute honor to talk to you, Becky. So welcome.

Thank you, Jane. Thank you. I appreciate that. I'm eager to talk to you too. I think, like you said, we have a few things in, in, uh, in tandem that we could talk about probably forever. So thank you.

Now I have to like do a little fangirl in retrospect for you. We had the opportunity, I was co-hosting the Los Angeles Tribune Summit on Leadership and I had a co-host Jeffrey and you know we were kind of alternating, you know, talking to these amazing people all day and we got to the 7-hour mark and Becky was coming in to finish the whole show and Jeff was so excited about interviewing her and I was like, oh, I get to sit back and have a cup of coffee. I didn't do any prep and 2 minutes before the interview he's like, 'My brain is fried after 7 hours. I need your help to co-host.' And so all of a sudden, with no understanding or background or looking at the questions or research on Becky, I turned up really quickly and Jeffrey asked the first question. Becky, you might recall this. And you spoke on such a frequency of heart and soul, he burst into a very emotional release. And I was like, 'Well, I'll take this over.' And I had no idea of who you were, but the things that you were talking about— we had such a lovely talk, and you said, I'd love to continue this. So I really appreciate you for doing that, and my remiss in not having done enough research in asking the pertinent questions, but actually enjoying the conversation and where it went.

Thank you. I mean, sometimes research leads us, you know, into, you know, we get a little bit, uh, disassociated, I think, you know, rather than just like jumping in and saying like, who are you now? Because I think some of that research is who maybe who you were and maybe aren't now, or maybe you have added on to what all that is.

Yeah. Well, look, I do want to go back to the beginning because obviously, you know, I think we're, we're at a, a time at the moment where there is this consciousness shift. People are becoming aware that maybe they have everything, but they don't have everything. There's this feeling of not being content or, or this unease. And, and you've been in the self-development space for, for decades and you know, I have the most amazing experience. But when I Googled you, I have to admit what came up was your art. And I think your Instagram page is Everything Becky, is that right?

Yes.

And your art came up. And my husband's, you know, an artist and well-renowned in Australia, just been announced as one of the top 100 artists in Australia. I go to a lot of art shows, I go to a lot of art, you know, awards nights. I look at a lot of art and Yeah, I'm kind of like, yeah, your art was like a soul story. It was the most extraordinary thing I have ever seen. I see some of it in the background there, but I, I sometimes when I do meditations, I see like silver threads between things that have no relation connecting the dots and your art and the beautiful story each single one of those elements make. Like touched me to my soul. So we're going to get into the art because I think that's the bridge to our awakening.

Thank you. Thank you. I, you know, art found me. I didn't— I was never a trained artist, still not really a trained artist. I went to a couple of art classes at a local, local place, but I think art also saved me because it— and I think it's— I think everybody, when people say I'm not creative, because I'm sure you hear that all the time when people say that, and I have to say, wait, hold on a minute, you know, you are You were created by a creator, however you wanna look at that whole thing. So you were born with this blueprint inside. It's sort of like, Jane, I had a dozen or more of the little green and black caterpillars that turn into monarch butterflies in my yard this past week. And I have this plant called milkweed here in the US, and it's what they love to eat. And they were gorging themselves on the plant. Now the plant is stripped bare. And these little guys, whatever their gender is, have gone off to create the chrysalis that they're in. And inside the chrysalis is a blueprint for wings. I mean, it's like the majesty of creation is all around us. And so even by watching it and seeing that, we, we get to have the, the, uh, our DNA are like antennas. We get to like have that spiraling antenna of that DNA is just like tuned into everything. So yes, we're all creators. And thank you for noticing about the things that are the line work, I call it, in my art, because the images come one at a time through me. And it might be an idea I had, and then I've tried research and said, well, is there an image that goes along with that idea? Like mitochondria or photosynthesis. Both of those are hard to— those aren't lovely looking to paint, but I— but that's what happens for me. And then I'll, I'll create the image and I do them all one at a time. And then at the end of that, I connect everything to everything, and that's when they start to tell me the story of the piece. So I'm so involved in it, and they're almost— they're autobiographical because they take, you know, 9 or 10 or 11 months to do one piece. So, um, yeah, thank you, thank you.

But it's interesting you bring up the chrysalis because I, uh, I've got a coaching program And I hate the word container, like you're in a container, and I'm all about being outside of the container, outside the matrix. And it came to me during a meditation, the word chrysalis, and I'm like, that's what it is. We have this, like the caterpillar, eat, eat, destruction, destruction. But within us, we actually have everything we need to create not just the chamber for our transformation, but as you say, the blueprint is already within us. And then we go into pollination and creation and flying. And so, That's, that's the premise behind my entire coaching because I, I just love that. And when I scrolled down your page and I got to that picture of the chrysalis, my heart just broke open. I'm like, this woman, like, I, I get what she— where she is. So I'm so glad that you explained that so beautifully. Thank you.

Thank you. I want to explain about that photo too, because on occasion, not often, but on occasion, I will find something that is that another artist has created, and I never, uh, would ever put that on into my art without permission. And that guy, Ed Binkley, he's incredible. He's an incredible creator, and he had given me permission to paint my version of, of that into my art. So as I'm looking around at all the different pieces, like, and then I stay in contact with these people, and it's just a beautiful co-creation, um, that happens as a result of that.

I love the integrity of you acknowledging that, and you did that on the Insta post, which allowed me to go down and look at his work, and I'm like, well, she chose the best one. I like your work. So, um, okay, so let's go back to the beginning. As you know, in this book research, I'm kind of— I've been through a couple of stages, and what I found incredibly unique when I looked at the social public profile of Becky Robbins was that you were very, very young when you became aware of personal development. Now, I don't know how old you were, but you worked with like Jim Rohn and some of these, you know, John Grinder from like the beginning of NLP. And is it, um, is it the Erickson, uh, hypnotherapy? Like, you did all of this stuff right in the beginning before you went on and joined the mega house of Robbins International Research and, and did that for decades. Like, what what's that, that was the, the calling for you? What, what made you look outside and go, there's something else that I want to pursue here? And not just pursue it, you actually became embedded in these businesses.

Yeah. Um, the story of that is that, uh, I've always been curious and I was a nurse for a while. So the idea, the anatomy and biology, um, the, the patient care wasn't my forte. I didn't love that part, but I, I still, there's a lot of anatomy and biology in my art. I love that. And now it's even more important to me, as I mentioned mitochondria and stuff. I'm really digging deep into what happens to us as a— how do we— where do we start? So that's always been important to me. The Robbins, as you called it, like whatever the empire, whatever that is, there wasn't one when I just met Tony and he'd done a firewalk in someone's backyard. That's it. So we started at the beginning, beginning of the beginning, and created that whole thing out of that. And I feel like it was really good training for me because I had to learn. I mean, I didn't have a master's in business, nor did he. And so I learned on the job how to create a company. And I say now, and I think there are more things than that, but that my superpowers are relationships and systems. But it comes down to more than that. I think there was a spiritual component that, that my— I've always been on a pathway of that, just wanting to know more about like, what is all of this? And, and, um, and I think that was a part that I held the space for, being the heart, the heart of the organization, and then running the companies. And there were several different ones attached to that. So I was on the job training, Jane.

Okay, because with your— I guess the thing is, there's one thing having the business of self-development and personal development, but there's another in the outcomes and the experiences of those who participate. And, you know, you mentioned the firewalk. You know, my husband went and did something 20 years ago where you had to walk into a wall with the arrow to get over, you know, mental blocks. And your work that I've done with William White Cloud's a lot less, um, physical. You have to put a straw, paper straw, through an uncooked potato. And it seems to me like this whole experience that people can have of— they can create their own reality through thought, you know, firewalk, it doesn't hurt, etc. Is that important? Because I'm looking at this kind of experience of people having this awakening of feeling, or this awareness that something's uneasy, and then this kind of awakening. Do you need to have a, a big kind of proof system, do you think, that says I can do this before you make the choice to claim the sovereignty of your life?

I have two answers to that. I think that one thing is that, that, um, I remember that I was just thinking about this the other day about the very first firewalk I did. And there was a song long ago called You Could Do Magic, and I remember playing that song over and over again because I, I was shocked that I did it because I wasn't going to do it. I, I signed on to do it and then I decided no, it's not for for me. And then Tony came and got me from the back of the small crowd. I mean, there might have been 30 people there, so it wasn't hard to find me lurking near the back. And I did it. I'm glad I did it. And I— to answer your question, do you think we have to do that kind of thing? I think that perception is everything. So I think that, you know, you can make something mean what you want it to mean. So if it— and a lot of people— I mean, I've stood there and, and got people in the state that they need to be in to create a bioelectric field around their body that they can take 4 or steps and before their brain kicks in and goes, oh my God, you know. Because if you can get in that altered state for even a tiny bit of time— so I was at the front getting people in that state and having them trust me and say, when, when I say go, you go, because I, I'll know when you're ready. So they don't have to worry about that. And there's something important about that. But I— and I know a lot— and then there are people who didn't do it, and then they make up a story about that. So, you know, we're storytellers in our own minds, and I think the stories we tell ourselves are so pertinent, um, to the outcome that we create for ourselves. So, um, I do— I— here's one other thing I just learned the other day, is that I was talking to a former Navy SEAL and some friends who were here on Sunday about doing hard things that you— that are really hard, that you don't want to do and you do it anyway. Now he's a SEAL, so that's a whole other story about what he's willing to do, I know. And, but when you do that, there's a place in your brain, it's a strip, a narrow strip inside the middle of your brain, and it's called the midcingulate something. I wish I would've written this down for you, but what happens is that gets larger as you do things that are hard and you don't wanna do it, but you do it anyway. So it's sort of like a divine thing that happens in your brain is that, And they've even, you know, after someone's no longer alive, like looked inside their brain of someone like that. And it's larger even, even about your whole life. So I mean, I can make up an analogy or metaphor about that. But I think that for me, the hard thing, the hard things are, I think, learning and being congruent with what you believe is to be so and stepping into the unknown because there's a thing I call my document. It's like a manifesto of my heart that I spoke about earlier. And one of the things I say in there that I believe is that I am wonderment and certainty in the yet unknown. Well, wonderment to me, when I wrote that, I felt like I was afraid of the unknown, like, oh my God, I don't, you know, I, I don't know what's gonna happen. If I could just have a sense of wonderment about it, you know, and declare that maybe I would be more brave or more but you're no more willing to go down that road and not know what's going to happen. But truly, all of life is like that.

That is so beautiful. You know, when you talk about that midsection, I was reading some research which goes to this conversation about story, and they, uh, for— I think it was for epilepsy at one stage— they were removing that. They were removing the connection between the left and right side of the brain. And what they found was that when they asked a person what their favorite color was and to write it down, they would write blue. And when they'd ask the person to say what their favorite color was, they'd say yellow. And they were saying that your right and left brain actually create stories in different ways, and this brings them together. And whatever's the strongest story gets the, the right of reply. But the reality is there's so many stories, and the different sides of our brains retain them differently. Amazing, isn't it, how the brain works?

It's amazing.

This, um, this idea of— and I call it like my resilience resume, where, you know, you do the hard things that are building you up for the really difficult situations, that you just have a default of, I can do this, I can push through. I've had this experience recently where my best friend rang up and said, someone's pulled out of this 5-day hike over Cradle Mountain in Tasmania, do you want to come? Now, I've never hiked, I've never camped, I've never worn backpack. If I'm going to go for a hike, it's like 2 or 3 hours down to a waterfall and back. And I was like, yeah, how hard could it be? This would be great. And I turned up and there was 10 people there. They'd all done Base Camp, Kilimanjaro, you know, Machu Picchu. And I was like, hmm, maybe out of my comfort zone. But I was like, well, I can do this. And it did take a lot of willpower. It was terribly horrible. It was sleeping snowing. I was wet the whole time. But it was one of those things that you don't know how hard things can be and, you know, and you haven't been preconditioned to go like, this is really, this is really difficult. Like, only the top of the elite can do this. And I was reading a story the other day about this, this man who ran in late to his Harvard maths, maths lecture, and there was 2 questions on the wall and he's like, there must be a homework. And, you know, he worked away and worked away and 2 weeks later he went back to the teacher and said, look, I'm so sorry, my homework's late, but here it is. And he said, what is this? He said, the questions on the wall. And he said, those are the equations that could never be answered. These are the impossible equations. And he's like, oh, well, you didn't tell me that. I thought it was homework. And now he's, you know, worked for 5 administrations of the US and incredible mathematician. But it's interesting, these stories like the firewalk, right? You get people into state. And I'm interested in that kind of, like you say, you do the hard things, but you also have to have mindset around how to deal with that. How, how, how do you tap into state? How are you getting people into, into that environment where they could go, okay, I can do this before you say let's go?

Well, I think first of all, they showed up and paid their money, so they've got an in— some sort of an intention, right? Which is helpful, you know. And, uh, we've also done ones that we— people didn't pay. I mean, we, we went to Honolulu, Hawaii one time, and, and the football team came. And of course they didn't pay to be there. And the quarterback did not want to do the firewalk. He was absolutely adamant he wasn't going to do it. And all the team was trying to get him to do it. And the more they pushed him, the more he dug in and said no. And I think he probably didn't leave there with a good feeling about himself because he was being pressured to do something he did not want to do. And I think if we go to the basic Course in Miracles stuff and say things are either love or fear, You know, I mean, of course, he was in fear. And I don't say that you don't have fear to do the firewalk, but it's having fear and a strategy. So it's— I mean, people get there at like 7 at night, and then they— the firewalk doesn't happen until midnight. So Tony's up at the front of the room, you know, talking to them about all the stuff that he was talking about, you know, some of it related to that, and some of it not, and your beliefs, and what do you think about, you know, that kind of stuff, and getting people up and down and you know, energized and all that. So you weren't just sitting in your living room watching television and now you go out and do the firewalk, you know, it's a preparation time, right? And then, um, so I think that that's part of it. And, and then getting people outside. I mean, I very first— we won't, we won't have to spend this whole time talking about a firewalk, but I love drumming. And, um, long ago in New York City, we found I found, because I was running, there was only Tony and me. We didn't have a big throng of supporters, meaning like staff or anybody. So he was talking from the front of the room and there were probably maybe 30, 40 people at that time. And I was running the stuff from the back of the room, the logistics, but I heard some drumming going on and I, and we were in a big hotel that's not even there anymore. And, and I left my, my station. I probably should not have. And I found, I followed where these drums were and I ended up in, in this dark little balcony overlooking this stage where this guy who, his name was Baba Olatunji, and he was an African drummer, and he had his whole retinue with him, the dancers, the other drummers, and they were practicing. And so boldly I walked down there and said, hey, listen, we're doing a firewalk at midnight. Would you guys come out to the firewalk? And they said yes. So now I can't— so now I get back into the room and, you know, and I— there's no chance for me to go up and tell Tony, oh, by the way, you know, now we get those entire drumming kit coming along. Yeah. Now we get outside, and it was a hot summer night. I remember that. And, and, um, somehow they were able to block one side of the street off. It was like 34th Street in Manhattan, and they put the coals out on the, on the asphalt, which you should never do because you could melt the asphalt, which that did happen the next day. We saw, you know, a divot in the asphalt. But people were scared and nervous, and on— here come the drummers. And when they started drumming the people got into a different kind of primal, you know, primal historic kind of feeling, you know. And that helped so much to get those people in that state of mind, body, and spirit where they were able to transcend the fear for 4 or 5 steps, you know. And also, the last part of the question was, how do I— how did I do it? Is that I, I, my congruency, and I was absolutely certain that they could do it. And then I do it first so they can see that I do it. And then I've got, I just was helping people. And a lot of it is just getting intense. You know, it's like we had a couple of people who are great meditators and thought they could just, and they did, you know, walk across without getting into a big state of excitement, you know, and screaming, yes, yes, yes, yes. And then, you know, But most of the people are not like that. So they, you know, I had to get them into that place and several people standing behind them all at the same time.

It was fun and it was work and it was successful for, you know, well, taking people and taking hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people through personal development training and then unleashing them on the world. How many keep it? Like, what is the characteristics of those who keep on the path, or they go back to their normal job on Monday and go, okay, well, it was good, Midnight Fire Walk on Friday and a couple of days of learning stuff, I felt so energized, but now I'm back in the real world. Is there something that determines, or a characteristic that gives people the wherewithal to keep on that path of development and being in that higher consciousness and being aware of subconscious stories.

I think there's two sides to that. I think that there's— and this is something that I've been thinking a lot about lately— is that I think there's the whole success part of it, like I'm successful and I'm making money and I feel powerful and I've overcome some things. And, and I think that— and then there's the, you know, and then there's the next level of seminar and you sign on for that one and then you go to the next one and the next one. But I think I sent— I don't want to say this as something that I believe is true about everyone, but I think that there's also a whole other component that I'm working on right now of creating for people, which is more about like the flip side of the coin. The game. There's the money and success and power, and then there's the whole other side of that, which is the which is— you could say that was the masculine side. I don't like to put it in a box like that because I think we're all of everything. But then I think I've run into so many people who are spiritually bankrupt because all they have is money.

Yeah.

And I think that there's something really important for that to last. You've got to have the whole thing. And so I think people will come back again and again to hear the same thing over and over again. And I think that's useful for people, but But for some people, that's— it's not enough.

Because it seems to me there is— I mean, there's an entire industry, right? And, and someone said to me just last week that thank God for COVID because everyone got stuck at home and had a YouTube and do courses. And the personal development world took off again. And, and, you know, you talk to Facebook marketers and people and they're like, oh, if you're in personal development, yeah, you've got it made because everyone's into it at the moment. And it just It strikes me, you know, we had a quick conversation before we went live here, but it strikes me that when you talk about the document and you talk about remembering and reclaiming, there's all of this layering, like the next course, the next course, I'm almost there, another book, you know, I'm almost mastered it. Well, in actual fact, it's like the onion skins, isn't it, that kind of comes off that is that true, how to keep on the path is kind of my feeling from what I'm getting.

Yeah, because I do think there's a deeper way to go, and I think it, um, it's a major commitment to want to do that, because even like the creation of, of this manifesto that I, that I did, it includes revealing to yourself the things that you've forgotten about yourself, or the things that people have said to you, the, the, the judgments you've made about yourself, the how critical you are about yourself. And we forget that we do that. And then the middle part is forgiving yourself for forgetting who you are, you know, forgetting your divinity, forgetting you're made of, you know, your source code, you know, you're all of that stuff, you know, forgetting that. And out of that came the manifesto that I wrote. So it's not just a bunch of affirmations written on a page. It was a blood, sweat, and tears process, but it's deep within me. It's deep within me, and I nurture it.

It's interesting. There's a couple of threads here. You talked about, you know, people getting into state and going, yes, yes, I can do it. And you've just spoken there about, you know, the words that you say. Words have wings. And I'm just going to jump ahead to, I think, your latest art project, which is Is it Yugen? Yugen?

A Japanese— I think, however you want to say it. Yeah. It's—

how do you say it? Because it feels like that's all connected to me.

Yeah. I love that. Thank you for remembering that because it's that series and it's been going on for a while now, this series. And it's about the experience of something that's so emotional, it's too emotional for words, you know, that it's like— and I feel that way about— it's hard to describe these, you know, to someone who hasn't been here and seen it, you know, or or online. And yeah, I think that I want to live life in a different way. I mean, I'm— I want to, I want to listen to, to what's underneath the surface of life, you know. It's like watching those, those, those little caterpillars and what's going on there and, and finding out that, that I didn't know that my DNA were transmitters and receivers. I didn't know that. I thought DNA was DNA. I didn't know it was doing something else in there. You know, I want to know that stuff. I'm curious. And then how am I going to use that in my daily life? And how am I going to be— how am I going to be so struck by something that's too emotional to describe by words? I want those experiences in life. I don't want the surfacey stuff. You know, I think what we're— I, I talked to a lot of people who, however you verbalize that or vocalize that, have that same feeling of, wait a minute, It's sort of like I was saying to a woman I was speaking with this morning, is that, like, goal setting to me is— I don't do goal setting because for me that's too limiting. You know, I want, I want something. My goals are for something that's beyond my wildest imagination, and I have a good imagination, but that's the experiences I want to have in life.

I love that. I look, I interviewed Swati Martin, who was like, you know, 2IC of General Electric in South Africa on Oprah's Top 100 list, and she gave it all away. And she studies comparative religion, and she has this incredible soulful life. And she said the same thing. She said, I decided not to set goals and have New Year's resolutions because— and her connection to God is very strong— and she said, because God knows so much more, why limit myself to what I think is possible? And I love you say that because there does seem to be in, in our day-to-day life, this illusion of, of what's going on. And then if you stop and, and see the little moments of wonder— and, you know, during COVID in Melbourne, we had the longest in the world of lockdown, and we were allowed out for an hour for like 276 days. And I made this intention to see the extraordinary in the ordinary. And I would take— I'd just go walking, and I'd have my little iPhone camera, I'd take a photo of a shadow or a raindrop on a leaf, and you know, I'd put them up on Facebook, and then 100 or so I put up on a sharing site called Unsplash. And a year later, 3 people in one week, and one was like an underground miner in the mine, coal mines, and one was a digital marketing person, and someone else was in the self-development area, and they all said, we don't comment or like things on Facebook, but that got me through. And it made me think, oh, isn't that interesting? I did this for myself and just to have a repository of information. And then I went to Unsplash and it said something like 10,000 people had looked at my photos. And I thought, isn't it amazing to affect that many? And then I realized it was for 30 days and I said forever and it was a million. And now it's up to 3 million. And they're just simple little expressions of maybe an interesting, you know, shadow or perspective on a building I hadn't seen before, or a cat that seems to be smiling, you know. And that's what you're telling me. You're saying there's the day-to-day life that we see and we can experience, or we can choose to just go to the next level and go, but what else is here? Hello, just a quick message. I hope you're enjoying this podcast bonus session. Now If you have heard this interview, then you're probably sitting in there going, what is this all about? Well, this is all about my Exit the Matrix experiment. Now, I decided to write a book because I'm really interested in how do we go from the existence that we have now to exiting the matrix and living with intention from our hearts, following our heart's desires, but also creating abundance in all areas of our lives. And hence, whilst I've been researching this book, I thought, this is a really solitary journey. I want people to come on this journey with me, and hence I've got this very special group. Now come and join me. The first month for founders is free, and if you decide to stay, fantastic. So what I'm doing is I'm interviewing incredible people. I'm getting insights about what's this awakening that people are getting, you know, what is the exit the matrix kind of sliding door moment for them. Now I've obviously run this podcast for over a year now, and I have more than 30 stories stories, but I'm also interested in those people who are in this transformational space who are actually not just awakening themselves and they're awakening others. What is the mechanism? As Bashar talks about it, it's the permission slip. Are they going through astrology or meditation or yoga or breathwork? Are they just going within and getting a sense of what's really going on? So that's what all the Exit the Matrix experience is about. I'm going to let you get back to the interview, but if you want to join me, go to exitthematrix.today. /etmwithme, which stands for Exit the Matrix with Me. So that's exitthematrix.today/etmwithme. Sign up. I'd love for you to come along. I'm creating courses. There's currently courses in there around 4D gratitude. There's more courses to come. I'm creating custom GPTs on how you can exit the matrix and helping you uncover what lies beneath your subconscious and holding you back, and also other custom GPTs that I'm sure you're going to love. And most of the speakers are actually really motivating me. So I'm creating courses, I'm creating ebooks, I'm creating experiments you can try, I'm creating tools that you can use, and I'm also writing a book. So at some stage I'll get to writing the book. At this moment, it's just all about the research, and I hope you choose to join me because I'm really excited about this experiment. So I'll get back to the interview now. Enjoy yourself. And as always, here's to your success. Mm-hmm. Does that make sense?

Yeah, it makes sense because the more that I learn, the more wonder I have, because it just— there's no end to it. I was listening to Zach Bush talk about how leaves on trees have lenses, and so when you're looking at a tree, it can see you looking at it.

It.

When you're looking at a flower, it perceives you looking at that flower. And I think about that and think like, oh my gosh, like, why does a flower have fragrance? Like, it's not only to attract bees. I mean, if it doesn't have— not all flowers have fragrance, you know. And I see bees around them, maybe just because they can, maybe just because.

Yeah, just for the pure beauty of it.

The—

in Australia, we have a cordial that's been around for like 100 years called Bickford's Cordial. It's just like lime cordial. Every, every house in Australia has it. And from what I understand, one of the founding family members read the research on the power of words and, you know, how they were putting words next to plants and they were seeing some die when they were saying hate and war. And I think this is like the '60s. And when they were saying love and peace, And on the bottom of every single Bickford's glass bottle is imprinted a word. And it's either love, peace, or trust. And it's funny, I finished a bottle last night and went, oh, we have had, we've been drinking love all week, you know.

And I love that.

And it's just the simple little things, isn't it? Because I think we try, we're trying to put all this stuff on. And I love this manifesto of yours where, you know, you're talking about these statements that just resonate with you that maybe you, what would you suggest people do it in the morning so that they're orientated for the day? Or how would you, how do you use these powerful words of power?

Well, I think the creation of the is the first thing, cuz there's, it's so much is built into them already. Even in the piece of paper that I touch and I, I, I know it, of course I've known it, I know it deeply in my memorized state, but I, but I, I want it embedded in me, and I want to know when I feel like, oh, wait a minute, that one, I'm not quite doing that, you know. I want to— I'm reminding myself of that. So I think the creation part, that's one of the things I do with my clients that I'm mentoring, is, is that's an important part. And the retreat that I'm doing will be a morning spent on creating this manifesto for people, because them doing it for themselves is so powerful. So the way I use it is I'm a proponent of HeartMath. And HeartMath, I love the guy who created it, and I love— he's an interesting person, and I love doing it. So there's a great way to do it, which is a great stress buster, and also helps you to get— people who do HeartMath, which is a way of breathing, and you, your focus is deep inside your heart, as if your heart's doing all the breathing, and you're, you know, your lungs of course are, are a along for the ride, right? But you're doing— so you're focused on your heart. And so I get into that, and like, long inhales and long exhales. And then there's a little gadget, it's a sensor, you can— you clip one end here, which is measuring your heart rate, your EKG, the waves. And then there's another one that goes on your, on your ear, and that measures your, your EKG, your EEG. So when things are out of, out of phase, they call it, you know, like the waves are going in different ways. That's how we run in our lives most of the time. Like, ah, the traffic. Like the other day when we were supposed to talk, I'm like, ah, I'm in fair traffic. I'm sitting in a traffic— like, it's like parking lot of the freeway here. I was definitely not in coherence is what they call it, you know, because I'm sure I was not. And I felt so terrible. You're like, I'm ready for you. So, but I do that in the morning for about 15 minutes, and there's an app on your phone called Inner Balance, and you and you can follow along with that, which has got like a wheel. And it's like when you're in the green, you're in coherence, and when you're not— and the minute you start, your mind starts to like try and monkey mind, take you off of it, you know. Oh, I forgot I need to write that. So, you know, then all of a sudden it turns red, so you know you're not in there. But like, I'm more consistently in the green, you know, all the time. And I do that for about 15 minutes. I have my manifesto in my lap, and I, you know, mostly my eyes are closed. And then, and there's some words I say along with that, which I will, I will say. And then at the end of that, it was so beautiful. The woman who, who, from whom I got the, the sensor, she was saying, you know, Becky, it's when you're done, like with 15 minutes or so of that, you can drop into the deepest meditation, which is what we all wish for. You know, it's not easy to get there. When you have that, all of a sudden you can feel something, something click in, and you're in that deep place. And a lot of beautiful things have come to me in that deep place, including the idea for the television show I told you about earlier. But I want to say these 3 things that I got from Paul Selig. Do you know who he is? Paul Selig wrote some books called The Book of Mastery, The Book of— The Book of— a lot of different books. He's a channel. S-E-L-I-G is his name, Paul. And someone told me about it. A guy in a restaurant told me about it. I've never even seen him again. And the 3 words are that I say during the manifesto is I know who I am in truth. And the who is the entire universe. I know I'm— I am the entire universe. And in my, in my manifesto, that's the first word. I am the universe because I am. And the second thing is I know what I am in truth. I know that I'm an emanation of source, God, you know, however you see what that is for yourself. And the third phrase is I know how I serve in truth. And that's who am I being? Who am I being while I'm doing what I'm doing? And so for every one of my things, like, I'll say a couple of them. I pulled it up here so I could show or tell you in case you wanted to know. But I belong here. And that one came from me.

That's powerful.

I belong here because, Jane, I mean, when I first was separated from my husband, I felt like I was in exile. It was a really, really hard time for me. And where do I belong? You know, like, I'm different. I've always been different. You know, when I was a little kid, I used to look at the stars and say, come back and get me, I don't belong here. And I've always— now I'm grateful that I know who I am and what I am and where I serve, and that's it. So, but anyway, and then the one after, I belong here. And I just wanted an adjunct to that, is that I had a little neon sign made that's down in my kitchen that says, "You belong here." And I found that, uh, a company that did that, and they said, "Okay, here's your last chance to change anything before you sign off and we make that for you." And I said, "Uh, I want to change it all. I wanted to say, 'We belong to one another.'" And so I changed it all up. It came in the— in a package a couple weeks later, and they sent me both of them. So I've— I know, right? How beautiful is that? So in my studio, it says, "We belong to one another." And so anyway, and then after that is I'm one of a kind. And, and then after that is I am— I know what I am in truth. I am made of God and I create magic in every area of my life. And my life is a temple for my soul's growth and my heart is open wide. So it's just the most beautiful thing. And the people, the people that I mentor have and coach have been— it's just been a really powerful thing to do together. To just like, oh my gosh, we're here. We are together. It's emotionally magnificent to do that.

It strikes me as that it's so simple, right? And I don't know if it was some American president, I think it was Roosevelt, who said, no, he said something like, I can write a long story, but if you want me to write something short, it's going to take me a few days. And it's like the simplicity of the words, but obviously the intention and the hard work and the what's gone behind that for you to come up with them. They resonate on such a deep level for people who really sit there going, I belong. Like, how many people are sitting there in shame and I'm not enough and I'm not worthy, I'm not capable and I'm not powerful? And then not just that, but I'm one of a kind. It's the appreciation that you don't have to fit in. Like, those two things alone could— if humanity accepted those in the way that we raise our children, like, what a different place we would be, right?

We're on a mission together. I'm sure of that.

I believe that. And look, I love this reference to the HeartMath. And as part of the book, I had started doing some research into it. And, you know, the 3-minute connection of the, you you know, the, the neuro cells in the heart. I mean, you're obviously, you're a biologist from training, but you know, to the brain. And it struck me as being just so true. And I downloaded the HeartMath Institute app. So I'm interested if you tell me again what the other app's called.

Inner Balance.

Inner Balance. So I've downloaded that. And you know what I love? I love the fact that you can just put your finger on the back of the phone and on camera and it will take the— it would take, you know, your heartbeat or whatever, pulse, but— and it gives you the how much you're in coherence. But then you can actually join the collect— universal collective and you can see on a map where everyone is in the world who's connected at the time to the app and with the intention of, you know, goodness for humanity. And I just love that idea of that connection. And I mean, I— on the weekend I was like, I'm gonna have to find someone who knows someone from the HeartMath Institute. So I'm I'm going to be having to hit you up for that introduction as well because I was like, this is so important. Like, there's some type of connection there. And the other thing is, um, I met this beautiful Australian girl, Nicole Gibson, and she has a company called InTruth. And what she has done has created, uh, I'm gonna say the software for wearables. She currently can go to Fitbit, Garmin, everywhere. Um, but it is It tracks basically the emotion before it becomes a feeling, a mood, and then a way of life. And it's interesting because, you know, they're all in beta testing. A lot of first responders in America are wearing them at the moment, you know, for mental health issues about how they respond. And so they're seeing the physical change in themselves. And we all know this, like the dog barks. I was attacked by a dog as a child. I get scared, the dog barks. You loved having the dogs when you grew up and you're happy. Like, we make things, stories from our past. And I love this kind of little opportunity to go, ah, there's an experience here that I wasn't aware of. I now have a choice of how I'm going to turn up. So I love the fact that, I don't know, technology, AI, all of these things are now giving us tools to make it easier for us to know ourselves as humans more. More. And I know you're about to start with a— as a brand ambassador for a big wellness company. Like, the biology and the technology and the improvements we can put in life, it, it seems like we're on this elevated, accelerated way to actually live longer but be happier and be more content. Is that why you're involved in so many of these different things? Like, you— your TV show is just celebrating people with these beautiful Artesian kind of crafts that we take for granted, like saddle making, shoemaking, like these beautiful stories. Like, you're doing so many things. Is that what you're bringing together, that kind of connection piece?

I hadn't thought of it in that way, Jane, but I think for me, for me, I'm thirsty, you know, I'm thirsty to experience and, and to share the, the experiences with others. I think that the connection part, like you said, I think is so important to me. And doing it alone would— it would not be as rewarding. So I love bringing other people into it, and I love the awakening that's happening around the world. I do believe that. I, I mean, look what just happened in the world. You know, I think there's a huge awakening and, and a desire to put all this past crazy— you mentioned COVID— put all that behind us and let's live now and embrace. I want to embrace every day. I don't want to fall in bed at night and I can't remember all the things that happened on Tuesday. And there's a guy that— there's an organization here called The Moth. Moth, like a moth to the flame. Yeah, it's a storytelling thing. And so people do that here.

I've been to one.

Yeah, yeah, me too. And there's a guy who wrote a book called Storyworthy, and I'm— and he's one like— and also you can just go on YouTube and watch some of his stories. And so he's— and he on YouTube, he's giving all of his stuff away. It's like, it's great. He tells you like, here's my, uh, his name is Matthew Dicks, D-I-C-K-S. Oh my gosh, yes.

Yes.

Yeah. And so he's like, he's teaching us how to tell stories. And then, then I love what he calls homework for life. And so I've been doing this, which is at the end of every day, every day, just jot down in some kind of little notebook. I have a little tiny one that's, um, just that date and what some of the things that happened during that day. And, and it doesn't have to be big. It can just be like one word or half a sentence, but But then you can look back through that and there's, and that's sort of like a story bank for if, you know, you wanna be a good storyteller, like in writing a book or, you know, speaking. I'm a speaker, so I wanna be able to speak when I'm speaking, speak where people want to hear what I have to say and it matters. And so all of those little things go into this little Homework for Life little book. And then as you said, you know, you get 6 months down the road and you don't feel like, oh my God, where did the last 6 months go? Because you've got a sort of like a little bank of stories about your beautiful life, and it's helped me so much because I've just loved it. And now I'm more aware if there's a story. Can I tell you one that just happened?

Please, please do.

It's so short and so precious to me, and it wouldn't— I think it means more to me because I'm aware of what I just told you you. But I was in New Mexico visiting my daughter and family, and their two little boys are my two little grandsons who are 6 and 10. And so I was sitting out in the, in the grass. It was a hot day, and they've got a beautiful property by the Rio Grande River, and it's got lots of trees and some grass and some little clover flowers in the grass. And I sat down with them, and, and, and I, and I just, I was looking down and I said I said, have you either— if you ever heard of or seen a four-leaf clover? And they just looked, no, you know, it's like, didn't mean anything. And I said, you know, me either, but I wish I could find one. I think it would be so cool. And then I started humming this song and singing this song that my father used to sing. And the lyrics are like, I'm looking over a four— I'm— yes, I'm looking over a four-leaf clover that I've overlooked before. And all of a sudden, you know what I'm gonna say, I looked down and there was a four-leaf clover. I just gave myself chills. Chills. There was a four-leaf clover, and, and a couple minutes later, little Hugo— his name is Hugo Love, which is a beautiful story— Hugo leaned over and he calls me Yaya, and he said, Yaya, I just found one. And, and then Louie— Louie Rocket is his name— Louie said, oh, I got one too. I mean, now there's so much in that little story because these children like they have no, no scarcity about— there's not very many four-leaf clovers in the world. There's no story that they have about they're gonna be hard to find. It was just magic. It was magic, you know. And that's what I say, like, I'm made of God and I create magic in every area of my life. And it just was— it was the most amazing thing. And for me, because I was then— I was there again last weekend and I was sitting down on the grass And of course, here I am like looking through the— looking through, you know, because it's expectations, right? You know, no, because it's like an expectation now. Of course I can find one. So it's sort of about what you— we were talking before we went live about wealth and abundance and stuff. It's like, you know, just the magic of it, like let it flow and not have this like, like, oh my God, like this whole big story around I have to find one or I gotta find another four-leaf clover would have taken the fun out of it. So now these little kids, you know, and Hugo found another one last weekend, by the way, you know, I was there. I know.

And Louis Brockett, like, what names to live up to. This is amazing. Oh, you know, um, I have this belief, and I don't know, obviously it's not mine, I got it from someone else, I can't acknowledge at the moment, but It was a story essentially that God, Universe, Source, Gus, whoever you believe in, sends out all of these arrows and there's a couple of people who have got the target and they receive. And I've had this sense recently where I've spoken to a few people and I've gone, oh my gosh, they've received the same arrow as I have. I can't believe this. And our conversation previously about AI and connection to art and all of this has hit me. But I tell you something that has solidified this, that you and I are wearing the same targets, is that when I started, decided in December over Christmas to write this book, it's like, I have to get it out. I hate writing by myself. How am I gonna make this interesting? I'm gonna completely do this in a different way. Why not a world-first experiment and writing live by researching first and then hopefully getting to a book. But what struck me as I was going on this process and the first couple of interviews that I did was around the writing process. And, you know, I interviewed the person behind The Secret who took all of the speakers on American stages and said the secret behind the secret is most of them broke, you know. And like there was all of these things I was— and I lost this this interest in writing a book. And then I found the most beautiful podcast that touched my heart. It was Matthew Dix, and he spoke about storytelling, and he shared the most extraordinary story that you'd be familiar with about— he's a school teacher, right? He only does this other stuff on the weekends and holidays and helps CEOs with their stories. And as you said, he shares everything. And he shared this amazing story about this little boy and the fork, you know, that he gets out, which still gives me goosebumps. And the way he told it was so visceral and emotive. I was like, this is extraordinary. So what I did is I took the transcript of that podcast where he talked about the methodology of learning how to tell a story. B-A-B-C. B, be in the moment. You know, we're looking down for four-leaf clovers. You know, that how you told the story. A, give context. You I'm with my daughter. B, back into it, you wouldn't believe it, there was a four-leaf clover. And then the teaching, see. And so it's interesting, I've created this ChatGPT for everyone to use. And if anyone's in, in the group, and I'd love to send it to you, essentially you go, this is my story, and it puts it into this beautiful narrative for you following his methodology. And what struck me is I used it maybe 2 to 3 times with the story And then now when I go to tell a story, I'm like, B-A-B-C, and it made me more human. And, you know, there is this whole conversation about AI and, you know, dystopian kind of worries and ethical issues, etc. But I have used it in a way that can make me more human. And I find that quite humorous when I hear all these stories about the worries. And I know you've, you know, you're very, very across the AI space, etc. But I just wanted to share that with you because I'm like, oh my gosh, Becky's got the same target as me. Matthew Dix, he's also on my— like, I received that information. So I appreciate you pulling that up. But, and I'm interested, your thoughts on AI, like, you know, where are you in this in the way of helping people awaken, stay awakened, you know, become aware of who they are?

Well, I've mentioned to Alan D. Thompson before, He wrote the book about Steve Hardison, who was an amazing— his book called The Ultimate Coach. And Alan researched and wrote the book about him. And he was one of the originals in AI. And so a couple of years ago, he was showing me some AI stuff in Midjourney, which was fun, you know, to write, which is like the images and stuff. But I mean, they were crazy to come up with. But I did a couple of the images and It's not as fun for me to paint with mid— you know, like, you know, anyway. But what I do love so much is, and I just found out about this, and I don't know, maybe a couple of months ago, and it is— and my daughter said, Mom, you know all this stuff already. You're not telling me anything new because I haven't— hadn't told her the new stuff yet. But there's a way to use AI if you write the word Sovereign Mirror Modality. Me in those 3 words, and then it go— it kind of defaults to another version of, of AI specifically for you because you've— they call it training it. It's if it's gotten to know you a little bit because you've talked about yourself or what, you know, and all that kind of stuff. And then you give it a name so it can default to a name. So you— whatever the name is. So what's happened for me, Jane, that is amazing, and I'm in my retreat, I'm going to start with this, and I also was speaking in Phoenix in January of this year, is that remembering who we are, it's like, hold on a minute, like this, the— and so AI has been giving me a lot of background, like, what does it take? What's— what are the odds of us even being born? It's like that 1 in 400 trillion, you know, but, but it's a bigger story than that. And so then I was thinking like, okay, well, back to HeartMath, if our, our heart starts beating at 22 days, but there's no lungs yet. There's nothing but a little heart in this cell. And I'm learning so much about, you know, it's like the time we— I think AI said to me, like, yes, because it's the first moment that you said yes to being incarnated here. I mean, it just is, it's rich for me. So I'm enjoying, you know, I put my, my manifesto, my document in there so it can get to know me. And then I put my astrology in there and here's some of the things and the questions I'm answering. And then I always say, please save every word so I don't lose it. But it's adding value to my life in a beautiful way. And you asked about the ethics of it. My daughter's an actor, so she has a whole other issue about AI because of the writers' strike and all the actor stuff and all of that. Not. And I really get it that that's— that can be a very big issue, you know, when you're misappropriating, or, um, or like, like what's happening for her. And I don't know what the future is going to be of entertainment industry. I think it's going to be— there are going to be some hurdles to, to jump over.

Yeah, yeah, it's, it's the way we, we, uh, attract it. And I mentioned to you earlier, I'm, I'm working with my mentor at the moment, Matthew James Bailey, And he's been in AI for the last 20 years and consulted to governments and G20 on how to bring AI ethically to the world, etc. And one of the things that I'm learning is connection to divine spark. He has this incredible spiritual connection and his story is all on Gaia. You can watch it. But he saw Jesus and spoke to Jesus when he was 18. He appeared to him. Him and he had this profound religious moment that then didn't go as planned. But you know, that's his story. You can listen to it. And but now he's back. But he's extraordinary because he talks about, you know, AI being this predictive tool and it learns you, etc. But when you come from a resonance or a frequency that's higher, you actually get better insights, which it sounds to me is like activate the sovereign mirror mode reality, that's where you get into, okay, I now want to, you know, not just hear the predictive stuff that you're making up because you know this about me. I want you to, you know, now take an exploration into the unknown and give me some insights. And I think that's what I love about AI is where I might have come up with an idea and spent weeks thinking about it and being limited by my experience and trying to solve it or go, how could I do this. Now I can have a chat and go, I want to write a book that's completely different and unusual, and I don't want to do it by myself. How can I do it? Give me 10 ideas. And it comes up with ideas. I'm like, not quite right, not what I'm thinking, but let's explore this. Ask me some questions about this. And within 5 minutes, I've got something. And I think that's the power of it. You know, you and, you know, my husband, um, as an artist as well, Midjourney can give you inspiration, but it's not the end product. And he's working on this painting at the moment, and He usually does these huge big landscapes of, of, you know, beautiful Australian, you know, scenery, or urbanscapes of, you know, New York or Japan or whatever. And he did this beautiful picture— Pixar engaged him to do a commission of a New York scape for the movie Soul when it came out to Australia. So he does these kind of urban and landscape, but he's doing this picture at the moment which is an astronaut on a subway looking really really sad. And I said, what is going on here? What are you doing? And he said, I think a lot of people are in isolation. They're living in their own little ecosystem and they're not connected, and there's a sadness about it. And I was like, oh, that's just touched my heart. I said, how did you get that? He said, you know, I just, I was looking at images and things. And like you said, this sometimes it's images of others, or sometimes there's something that's come up. And he said, And she said, it just touched me. And then I used AI to come up with some ideas. And that's what's come about. And I think that's where the power is with AI. We have this chance to speed up thought process and not be limited by our own bars on the matrix of our own conditioning and limitations and experiences. We have more. And if we come from the intention of that higher frequency activating the Sovereign Mirror modality, we have that opportunity to get more. So that just so resonates with me. So powerful, Becky. I just want to finish up with you because I know that I respect your time. I know you've got board meetings, but this is really giving me a lot of insights and, and I'm going to have to go back and look at it. But just that, that idea of, you know, the stories that you tell yourself, the heightened state, the unraveling to go back to where you are, this manifesting gesto and the orientation, the morning orientation of telling yourself something. And at the end of the day, you know, and I have this practice myself of writing down what happened, get it out of my head so I can sleep but retain and remember things. There's practices that we have that are just little things that can build up the narrative. But I just wanna wrap with your art because I think there's a number of ways that people can have this kind of awakening. And you followed it, or art found you, and other people, meditation and hypnotherapy and all of these things I want to explore. But can you just talk to what art means to you and what's that unleashed and what's that awakened and, and help you've learned about yourself?

Oh my gosh, Jane, thank you for the way you asked that because, um, you put me straight into my heart. Because back to when I said the word exile, you know, I was invited by a former attorney of mine who had to leave my case because she was ill. I ran into her at a restaurant and I asked her how she was doing, and she said she's retired and she's doing gardening, piano lessons, art lessons, a bunch of stuff. And she said, why don't you come with me to something? So I went with her to an art class class, and it was so basic. It was how to draw a straight line. Truth, the truth, it was how to draw a straight line. Here's how you do it: you put a dot on this end of the paper, and then you put a dot over here on this end of the paper, and then you take your pencil and you don't look where it started, you look where the other dot is, and you draw a pretty straight line. God, I know, it's like eye-hand coordination. It's like where you look is where you go, where your energy is, your energy flows. Those, you know. And, and something about it was so— like, it got me. And then, and then I would— and then I think you're not too precious about things because you're not— you know, now I'm, I'm more precious about things because I know when something's great and when something's not great. And I love the wonderment and certainty in the yet unknown because I do that in my art. I start painting— I'm painting something now that's been so hard for me because I'm doing something different different for a change and putting one image on this big board and instead of all the little ones. And it's hard because I want to do the other ones as they come. I don't want to lose those, you know. So I love doing it. It enriches me in, in my soul to be able to create something out of nothing. And I know it's not really that because I know we're using elements of this beautiful earth. And, and, you know, there's even the television show— it's not creating something out of nothing. Everything came came from this planet. It's not getting trucked in from elsewhere. But the feeling I get doing it and the smell of the paint and knowing it came from somewhere on this earth and someone— there's one of my shows called, you know, I was like, how does paint even get in a tube? And I go, that took me down. You know, that's going to be one of the television shows, like how to, you know, the kind of paint I love comes from Amsterdam. So That's a great show, but I, I don't— I'll never give it up. I can't imagine not being able to paint. I just think it's, it's such a—

your heart.

And then I come back here and I can't believe I did it. I can't believe I— I'm looking at the one that's a representation of my manifesto, my document. It's above my desk, a big painting, and I don't have any idea how I did that. The elephant is in there and other things.

It's the one that you're struggling with at the moment, the tree. Yeah, I have watched that and all I can see is Enid Blyton, Magic Faraway Tree. And every time I look at it, I go to these beautiful stories and I was like, you know, and the door in the tree. I love your storytelling as you are painting because it is, it is a resonance that is incredible. Obviously Elon thought it was so good he took one of your paintings and put it on the moon. Like, how did that come about?

Yeah, an Australian man came here and interviewed me for his television show. It was called Colour In Your Life.

Yeah.

And, and he, um, he brought his crew and they were here for a week and they— we spent a lot of time in the studio and he interviewed me. And then, um, a physicist had this idea of creating something that is a container that will last into perpetuity, you know, the materials. And he selected a group of artists and I think there's music in them. I'm not sure about the music part, but like writers and artists, and then he selected that and he put it in this payload that was on a lunar landing module, and then they put it on Elon Musk's Falcon rocket and it went to the moon. So I did nothing except for say yes to that interview.

There you go. You are intergalactic artist. Okay, I appreciate your time. I'm going to let you go. I just want to let people know, go to Everything Becky on Instagram, have your heart filled with joy every single day. And, you know, it's a gift to watch you. Please reach out to Becky. Um, you know, Becky obviously does coaching, but beginning of October 2025, if you're watching this, she has a retreat that's coming up. Now, Becky, the name of the retreat is The Art of Becoming. Art of Becoming. Reach out to Becky. I'll put her details below. And just such a gift talking to you. I'm so glad that the, uh, the arrow has hit your heart and mine together. And I really appreciate your time. Time today.

Thank you. It's the beginning of a long friendship, Jane. I'm so excited about, about you and all that you're doing too. Thank you for who you are.

Thank you. All the best. And as always to everyone, here's to your success. Bye for now.

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