Unraveling the Healing Universe: Bridging Ancient Wisdom and Revolutionary Methodologies

Hello, friends. I am so grateful to have you here for a very special panel episode of Regarding Consciousness with 2 people who I really cherish and adore the work and the wisdom that they are both bringing to the world today. I think I've actually interviewed them both separately on this show. Today, this panel brings together 2 influential figures in the field of holistic healing. You may remember Dr. Bradley Nelson, who we had on the show, I think about 6 months ago, very popular episode. He is the creator and the founder of the Emotion Code and Body Code healing modalities that have been transforming the world and transforming lives. As well as my dear friend who I've known for almost a decade, brilliant healer in her own right, Seema Chaudhru. She is a bestselling author, CEO, and founder of the Infinite Love Coaching Academy. And this panel, we are really gonna deep dive into the intersection of ancient wisdom, as well as groundbreaking and recently founded healing methodologies, much like the ones that Dr. Brad teaches and that Sheema will be sharing with as well. So Dr. Brad, it's always a pleasure to have you back here with us. Why don't you perhaps, in case this is the first time that one of our listeners or viewers is tuning in today or listening to us, perhaps share with us a little bit about Some insights on the fundamental principles of the motion code and body code that you've created.

Okay, absolutely. Well, first of all, Jennifer, thank you for having me on. And Shima, it's great to meet you.

Thank you so much.

So basically, I started out very in a very left-brained profession. Okay, and that was computer programming. I became a computer programmer back in the early 1980s. I had a business called the Computer Tutor. Now I'd go into people's businesses. That had bought a new IBM PC back when there was no software, and I would write the software for it. And, um, but, you know, deep down I knew that, uh, he— the healing arts is where I wanted to go. I'd been healed of kidney disease when medical, uh, uh, there was nothing medical that could be done for me, and I was healed through some alternative doctors. So I decided at 13 that's what I wanted to really do with my life. So the programming thing was kind of a, um, kind of a detour, but it was a necessary detour because The reality of it is, what I have found is that the subconscious mind within each one of us knows exactly what's wrong with us and what needs to be done to help us to get well. And it happens to also operate like a computer. But it has a— it has kind of a unique interface. I mean, if you think about, I'm sitting at my laptop right now, for example, I've got a screen where I can see things, and I've got a keyboard where I can put in information. So that's the interface, right? It's a screen and a keyboard. If you look at your phone, your phone has a screen where you can see things and it has things you can touch and move around, and that's how you communicate with it. So it's a touchscreen interface. The subconscious mind, though, there's no screen on the body to, to, for it to display things, information. And so what the way that this computer works that's within us is it it uses symptoms as a way to communicate things. Instead of having a screen, it, it has symptoms. And so you might get neck pain or back pain or migraines or infertility or asthma or digestive disorders, or you might have depression or anxiety or phobias or panic attacks or PTSD or eating disorders or self-sabotage or cancer, you name it. All of those things are a message on the screen in the sense of this computer system that is the subconscious mind. And so then how do we communicate with that? Well, there's no keyboard for the body, right? Well, what I learned is that you can use muscle testing, or dowsing in various different ways, you can use a pendulum or whatever you want to use. And the subconscious mind is very willing to communicate with you. But it's a binary computer. It's a binary interface, which means that you can ask any question that you want, but the answer can only come back in the form of a yes or a no, either strength, you know, yes, or weakness for no. And that's it. So this is a paradigm that I really do believe is going to change the whole world as we start to really understand that the answers truly all lie within us. The subconscious mind knows exactly why you've been diagnosed with whatever you've been diagnosed with, or why you can't find love, or why you can't make money, or whatever it is. The answers are all inside of you. And now we know how to ask questions and get answers. We finally figured it out. Uh, it's a binary computer. Holy Toledo, we never knew. But that's the bottom line.

It's so powerful. I love what you're saying, Dr. Brad. Another dear friend of mine, Dr. Maria Sagi, who is a pioneer in energy medicine, much like you, in the early '90s, I think it was, she too discovered— I mean, so many of us have discovered that healing is not just something that Western medicine is teaching us. I'm a huge fan. I want to be very clear, you know, please go see your doctor if you have a medical condition, as a disclaimer. And there's a place for both. I remember being healed from swine flu. It was the first time I'd ever even dipped my toe in the energy medicine world with acupuncture in 2009. And I went from having a fever of 104 and being basically incoherent in every way and meaning of the word. And this gentleman said, please, Jennifer, just get yourself, get yourself to my clinic. And he did. And within 24 hours, even less than a few hours, I think I was back to normal. And I love— I want to highlight this, Dr. Brad, because I remember this during our first conversation. In June, I think it was, of 2020, where you shared with me the sway test. It is so powerful that there are so many ways we can sway, we can use muscle testing, we can use pendulums to be able to ascertain what is missing or what is going on that is below the surface, and that the binary, as you mentioned, yeses and nos, can help us to distinguish that. So, share with us— I know you've been on this path you know, for several decades yourself. What are some of the ways— and I know you're a huge fan of Dr. Brad's work— what are some of the ways that you love to use this technology to help your patients that you work with? Oh, Sheema, my friend, I don't think we can hear you. So go ahead.

Thank you. Thank you so much. And yes, as you mentioned, I'm a huge fan of the discoveries of Dr. Bradley Nelson, because I can see what he put together. It's a lot of effort, but bringing, combining a lot of methodologies in one single methodology, it's really groundbreaking. I have been working with emotional cause of the disease as trying to treat many people with so-called incurable disease for some years now. And, but when I came across the Emotion Code and after the Body Code, I have found the fastest methodology, the shortcut. And I love shortcuts because I love to do everything fast. So everything that takes many sessions, I like to do it in one session. And definitely this is a shortcut. I knew acupuncture and Theta healing and kinesiology, crystal therapy, frequency therapy, aromatherapy, a lot of different types of methodologies together with a combination of coaching and I combined them together and they were all powerful, but you require again a lot of different sessions. With this technique, specifically when it comes to Body Code, all of a sudden the gates open in one single session. You can go so deep to transform all different bodies that we have, and that comes down to understanding that we are multidimensional beings. having multidimensional bodies. We have mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, etheric, energetic bodies, not only a physical body. And if we want to attain to health, we need to attain all these bodies, the root cause of the disease that is located in one or simultaneously in others. So emotion often is stored and trapped somewhere in the body and creates cause of distortion in the function of the body, even if it is in meridian or somewhere What I love about, about the Body Code is that it has so many charts that brought together a wealth of knowledge of ancient healing together with new technologies all together. So in one single methodology you're using, you can really go so deep in healing others. So this method has been very powerful, creating shifts in my own life and in the life of so many people I've worked with. So really eternally grateful for, for, for your discoveries. And I think more people need to discover that and come, become familiar and start using it. More healers and more therapists need to use that. And with this, we can all together let go of the pain of our karmic bodies to heal and to become prepared for the ascension of humanity to the new realm of consciousness. So that's very big work what you have done. Thank you so much.

Well, you're so welcome. It's like I tell people, I just work here.

You're a channel, Dr. Brad. I think we are all channels if we just open ourselves up to it. And, you know, we can all channel this wisdom. Though I like to imagine what our audience is thinking as they're listening to us right now, and I'm hearing something very strong in the consciousness. You know, there's so much atrocities in the world— children with cancer, A friend of mine, her daughter just passed away at 2 years old. You know, my nephew's in the hospital right now with the colitis, I believe it is. How does this— and I will go to you first, Dr. Brad— how does this happen that you have children who might be 2 years old? One of my— I love a dear friend of mine here in Lisbon. Her son is always deathly, deathly ill, and we have introduced her to amazing healers who might temporarily assuage it. But how does this even happen with children who might not have this past in history? Do you want to say a little bit about that? that, Dr. Brad?

Right, sure. Well, um, you know, in The Body Code, um, what I found when I was in practice— first of all, let me, let me back up. Um, I was obsessed with getting to the underlying causes of my patients' problems. And, um, because I was a nerd also and I had a— this computer programming background, I always had a computer there with me. So as I was finding new things and I— and as I was finding things I was finding imbalances going on in people's bodies through things that, um, that were new, or things that I would receive through prayer, answers to prayer, or ancient things. Anytime I would find something, I would log it in this system, which eventually became this vast knowledge base that now is what we call the Body Code. And what I found was that all of my patients, no matter how young or old they were, no matter what they were suffering from, whether it was something mental or physical or emotional, Um, they were really suffering from imbalances, and, and then they were manifesting symptoms, which is again how the body communicates with us. And so what I found is that there are really 6 different kinds of imbalances. This is a page, by the way, in The Body Code book, right? And so I found there were 6 different categories of things that can go wrong in the body, imbalances really. And this is where the game is played. If you can find the imbalances that are causing the problem, The imbalances that are causing the disease that are manifesting as the infertility or the asthma or the digestive problems or depression or whatever it is, or physical pain. Um, and there are things like energies, which are trapped emotions, traumas, and things like that. Pathogens, of course, we know all about those— parasites, viruses, things like that. Um, there are misalignments. Any tissue can misalign. Down here we have nutrition and lifestyle imbalances where you don't have enough nutrients of a certain kind, or maybe you need more magnetic field or whatever. Down here we have toxins, and we live in, of course, a very toxic world now. But the subconscious knows all about those. It knows all about all of these. And also then here we have circuits and systems. That has to do with not only the systems of the body, like the cardiovascular system and the nervous system, but also the connections between the spirit and the physical body, which is something you don't find anywhere else, right? Now, the beautiful thing is the subconscious mind knows exactly with a perfect understanding, really, what a person's imbalances are. And you see, we're now just about to step out of this old world. It's like we have one boot still stuck in the old mud of Newtonian physics, really. And we're trying to step out of that world into this new world that is the quantum world. Yeah. Einstein himself many, many years ago said the medicine of the future will be the medicine of frequencies. But it's taken us so long to try to understand any of that. But that's really what this is. And we have to understand, see, that we are divine creations. We are divine. And so what does that mean? Well, it means that within us we have all these answers. And so now we have a, we have a way To ask questions and actually find out what are the true underlying reasons. I mean, if you look at cancer, for example, that you're talking about, children's cancer, well, how does Western medicine look at that? Well, they look at the cancer as the problem. And so they'll throw things at the body to try to fix that, and they'll burn the body with radiation and poison the body with chemotherapy and everything else. And if you survive, you know, the cancer cells are weaker. And so the theory is they'll die and you'll live. But, um, but because the body is divine, uh, it won't be too many years in the future when we'll look back on these current methodologies of treatment and we'll just shake our heads and wonder that we could— it could be so primitive to look at this divine creation that is, uh, the human body and to not actually ask it what it needs, because it'll tell us.

Yeah, I love that. Oh my gosh, Dr. Bright, you're so right. A dear, dear old friend of mine just called me the other day and she has stage 4 cancer. And she said, Jen, I'm told I might not be able to live. And we're sitting there, we're talking, and I was— my heart just broke to her. And she didn't know— she knew a little bit about spiritual stuff. And I started sharing about some of your work and HeartMath and all these beautiful tools that we all use, right? And all of a sudden, clear as day, it came in that there was a limiting belief that she didn't— it wasn't that she wasn't lovable, but that she wasn't deserving of love. And all of a sudden, I don't know where that came from, it was just clear as day. And she just started crying. And she started sharing some You know, life-altering things that happen. And yet we don't realize, here we are, these 35, 75, 45-year-old people, that all of these beliefs, as our mutual friends, you know, Bruce Lipton always shares, the biology of belief, this is all ingrained in our subconscious. Then, then to your point, Dr. Brad, just shows up on the computer screen, which is the symptoms of our body. And this, by the way, was beautifully illustrated for me with Shima when we were together several weeks ago. I have never seen anything like it. Like, Dr. Brad, you and I have known each other a couple of years. I love your books. I've read them. And I've been meaning to play with the app, but I hadn't really gone deep. Forgive me, I'm now a big devotee of your app. So he has a Body Code app. And Shima, we're at breakfast. And I say, Shima, I'm so sorry, my husband couldn't make it. He was under the weather. And by God, she was like a witch. She pulls out your app and using those 6 little things that you were just sharing with us, she starts pendulum testing it and saying, oh, Jen, it's related to this. It's related to that. Now being married to this man who I love, Everything she said was on point, even to the fact that he was wearing too much of the same color and that he had too much like deep blue and indigo. And it was— of all the things I'd ever heard in my spiritual studies, I was like, how could she know that? I was like, whoosh, mind blown. So Seema, tell us a little bit about your perspective on this and how this ties into some of the ancient teachings that we all learn from.

Thank you, Jennifer. Yes, well, I would like to share this story how I came across the Emotion Code myself, how did I discover

it,

and also my journey into holistic health. Because I have studied also many years quantum physics and come from the scientific background, and coming into holistic health was— when you talk about cancer and the children in cancer and what Dr. Bradley mentioned about the aggressive treatments that we are doing with the symptoms and cutting. That happened exactly to my mother. So I lost my mom in cancer, and, and this experience was very painful. But what was more hurting than that was that despite my success with helping so many people with cancer and incurable disease, I was helpless when it came to my own mother. And my family didn't believe in holistic treatments. So they resist and they put her under aggressive treatments. In less than 18 months, she underwent 6 brain surgeries, 2 months of radiotherapy, and her body couldn't take it anymore. She was young and sporty. She was a mountain climber climbing highest mountains in the world, and we never expected such a thing to happen. So as I went through my own trauma of the loss, And embarked on a self-healing journey to find out how can I get rid of this trauma that I was paralyzed and I can't move my body. I discovered the Theta Healing, which it was a methodology I was already using for financial blockage and clearing since 2009. Forgot that we had a chapter about trauma therapy, that completely forgot it. And when it came to my mom, and that was back in 2018, I did this healing and 95% of my energy was back in one single session. So I started to apply this methodology and I started to offer it to more people with traumas and coming, and many of them, they are asking about the emotional cause and what is the root of it. Along the side, we have discovered also Quantum Acupuncture that I also shared it in my book, how do we apply with, with my teammate, Dr. Carlos Vieda, who is a medical, conventional medical doctor and Chinese medicine doctor who we developed this quantum acupuncture methodology. So we were applying the quantum acupuncture, and every time a person gets healed, it comes like their pain out from 10, it comes down to 2, like what you mentioned when you had a fever, and immediately in less than an hour everything goes and it comes down. And it is said there, when it comes like when we apply acupuncture. So if somebody has a pain in 10 and it comes down to 2, we know that if it's there, it's because there is emotion. So the way before I was searching for this emotion to see what is that emotion to make them aware of that, was searching online for different root cause of this, for instance, or looking in the Chinese medicine. For instance, if you have throat pain, it's because something you don't want to express. Or any, any different type to search for their emotional cause. Then the Emotion Code book showed up on my search. I immediately bought it and went to the book the same night, and I was like so fascinated with the book. And I was saying, oh my God, it's telling me exact emotion, where in the body is located, and you can even ask a lot more questions to understand if this is a shared trapped emotion, if it's a heart wall, if this is— that was fascinating. I was like, I mean, like, I didn't have nights and days reading the book and applying and just seeing if it works. And that got me into Body Code, and I saw, wow, if we have even inside the Body Code, the Emotion Code is there, but there are thousands of other things as well. So it was amazing. I was having chest pain when I started to apply myself. I had a pain here that was very strong, and I didn't know why I have this pain. So with all other treatments, I couldn't get to the root cause of this pain. On the Emotion Code, it came up that this is fear shared with my father when I was 2 years old. So obviously I don't remember when I was 2 years old. I do know that I was born during the war between Iran and Iraq in Tehran, and I know that the first 6 years of my upbringing was under the bombard attacks. So I called my father and I asked what happened when I was 2 years old that your fear was so much that transmitted to me. And he said, in one of those nights when alarm went on, I hugged, I hugged you, hold you to run to the basement, your mom hold your siblings. And when we were running, the bomb explodes next to our home, it was so loud that I got also hearing like ringing in my ears. And he says that moment I was so fearful and I had you of course on my chest. It was so accurate when he said to me, and when I released that, um, when I released that, which is your methodology is amazing to release that trapped emotion. I go so back, okay, past 3 times, always a trapped emotion from someone else, 10 times over your main meridian, and it's done and gone. When I did it really this pain was revealed fully, completely. So I came to understand how deep we can go, and then I started to do more and more of these healings and found out a lot of preconceptions, emotions that are there, or things that are not even in this life. It didn't even happen in this experience. And as I do Akashic healing and reading as well, I could see the depth of this methodology, how fast and quick can we create shift in others and in the well-being of ourselves. If people, if everybody out there, that's my wish, if everybody out there just learned this Emotion Code method, there's just that simple chart of the Emotion Code. Now we don't want everyone to become a therapist and do the entire Body Code, but if they just learn that Emotion Code method and they remove these emotions that are blocked there during generations, That would be amazing. Our world will become a completely different place.

Well, that's where we're going. I mean, that is what's going to happen. I'm— people have seen it. Um, we did an event, uh, in 2010. We went around the world, did a bunch of events. At the very beginning of the first event in January, we were in Seattle, and a woman came up to me at the very— before the event started. She said, I need to talk to you. She said, something really weird happened to me. She said, a friend of mine gave me this book, The Emotion Coach. She didn't say anything about it. I started reading it. And she was in the first couple of chapters, and all of a sudden she had a vision. And in the vision, she saw herself sitting in her living room with these people sitting around, and she was teaching them how to do the Emotion Code. And all of a sudden, her roof— the roof of her house detached and started floating up into the air, and she starts floating up with it. And pretty soon she can see other houses, and she can see that their roofs are also detached and going up, and she can see into these other homes and the Emotion Code is being taught in every home. And as she gets higher and higher, she can see it's being done in every, in every city in her whole state, in the whole country. And then pretty soon she comprehends it's going on in the whole world. And then the vision ended, and she looked at the books like, what the heck is this?

That's where

we're going. It's inevitable. I mean,

it's

absolutely— right? The Earth is in labor. We're transforming into this new world, and all these old ways of doing things are You know, they're popping up there, you know, crazy things are happening, but that's okay. It's like labor, right? Um, I've not been through labor, but my wife has, you know, we have 8 together and, um, it's painful and difficult, but when you get through it, it's okay. So

we're getting there. Yes, I, I absolutely understand this and I could see the same vision, something very similar. I have seen also in my Akashic connection and I have seen something very, very similar that the— we are shifting to the new dimension. And as you know, we are shifting to the 5th dimension. And definitely your methodology was one of the most influential methodologies in order to heal the karmic bodies, because this time of the shift of planet Earth, we are also going with our bodies. So that's very interesting. And these bodies need to be prepared to raise our vibration. In order to raise it, we need to let go of these trapped emotions. So that's the key.

Yep, so true.

Yeah,

I think the important thing that I'm being called to share right now for all of us tuning in is to be kind and compassionate. You see so many horrors and atrocities in the world, and I think that much like if you didn't know a woman was in labor— this, this image is just coming to me right now— if you were just out in the middle of a forest, you had no idea what a woman in labor was, and she's screaming bloody murder, there's blood and there's pain and there's sweat and there's tears, you might be terrified. And I think so too in the way that the world is birthing a new way of being, a new way of interacting with one another, a new way of seeing ourselves in the world. It can look bloody and scary and frightening. And so the important thing is to cultivate that compassion. And if you see people out there, it's not— I think it's so important to be kind and compassionate. And if we see others who are challenged, Then just to give them the grace that they're doing the best they can in this moment. And the only thing we, any one of us can do, we can't go out there and buy 8 billion books and hand them to everybody, which we'd love to do, by the way, Dr. Brad, you know, as much as we'd love to do that, it's up to each one of us to pick up that book, the Body Code book, the whatever the book is that's calling to your soul, and to do the inner work, and then to extend the grace and compassion for wherever somebody else is at in their journey. So I would love to have each one of you. I It's a shame we have so little time today, but Dr. Brad, I know you have an important event coming up that I want to be sure to share with our audience today. Did you tell us it was in Florida? That's, uh, at the end of the month?

Uh, yes, we have an event coming up in Florida. It's a Body Code event, uh, no prerequisites. You can just show up for that, and that's going to be the 3rd and 4th of, uh, November. And, um, so you can go to our website at discoverhealing.com and go to events, and you can sign up for that and join us. It's, uh, you know, very, very transformational. You'll love it.

And Shima, I know you have a new bestselling book as well. Do you wanna share with people where they can find it?

Um, my book called Infinite Love: My Journey to Better Health, Relationship, Finances, Applying a Scientific Spiritual Approach, where I share my journey of my life journey of, uh, discoveries, uh, in different healing modalities and also my ideology. The Infinite Love is my ideology about this beautiful loving energy that surrounds us, and we just need to open ourselves and connect to it. And it's available globally on Amazon, so on Kindle as well, and also as well as paperback. And so, yeah, anybody who is interested, you can also check it on my website on shemashadow.com, the link for your own country. Beautiful.

Yeah, beautiful. Well, I would love to have each one of you maybe share one line. Dr. Brad, if there was one piece of wisdom, one thing maybe that you didn't get to share in today's show, what would it be that you wish you could leave our listeners and our audience with?

Well, I would say that, uh, it's time for you to realize that you're a divine being, a divine creation, and that, um, a lot of what you've learned in your life isn't necessarily correct. And that conventional wisdom that, you know, that we all tend to subscribe to is usually bought and paid for by somebody. We see that going on all over the world all the time. So it's time to open your mind and open your heart to the possibility that you have capabilities beyond your wildest dreams, and that you have a birthright to be able to heal yourself and heal your family members and your loved ones. And the Emotion Code and the Body Code are here to bring that healing birthright back to you in the simplest, easiest way possible.

Beautiful. Thank you, Dr. Brad. And Sheena, are there any closing thoughts you'd love to share today?

I would say that self-awareness is the first step to healing, becoming aware of who we truly are and how our body functions, how our thoughts and emotions are influencing our health. is vital in our healing journey. If we really want to heal ourselves, we need to look at the root cause of the disease instead of just painting the surface and allow the body to communicate to you. Everything is a message from the body. Welcome this message.

Yes, I love that. This comes at a very opportune time. Yesterday I was on a call with a dear friend of mine, brilliant thought leader, Dr. Rakesh Suri, who is one of the most famous heart surgeons in the world. And he said to me something really profound yesterday. He said, Jennifer, you know, I've, I've held a heart in my hand. I've, I've been there. I've been— I know every ventricle, every piece of the heart. And yet I only discovered my heart 3 years ago. And it's so true. We all have these beautiful hearts filled with so much. And as much as we could spend our entire lives studying the biology of the heart, until we study the biology of the soul, I think we still have a lot to learn. Mm-hmm. So thank you both for your time. I am Jennifer Cahill, the host of this show and CEO of OptiMatchOm.app. It is always a pleasure and an honor to get to join you with our esteemed guests, and thank you for trusting and tuning in here. Wishing everybody a life filled with health, wholeness, and the wisdom to know that you are already whole, complete, and perfect. Thank you. Thank you.