What You Can Do This Year to Improve Your Whole Body & Brain Health | Tony Robbins & Jim Kwik

Tony Robbins discusses his book Life Force, covering stem-cell therapy, AI-enhanced heart scans, and multi-cancer blood tests now available at clinics like Fountain Life. He recovered from a severe rotator-cuff injury using stem cells and explains how genome-sequencing costs have dropped dramatically, making DNA editing closer to reality.
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Welcome back, Kwik Brain. Do you want more years in your life and life in your years? Welcome back to the Kwik Brain Podcast, a show for busy people who want to learn faster, achieve more, and become limitless. So how do you transform the quality of your health and those that you love? Our guest today is number one New York Times bestseller Tony Robbins, and we're here discussing his brand new book, Life Force. Welcome back, Tony.
Thanks, buddy. Good to see you again.
So good to be here with you. And so your book is full of all these new breakthroughs of health technology to help people to maximize their energy, to be able to extend their wellness, their healthspan. And I remember hearing this quote many, many years ago. I don't know who to attribute to, but they talked about a person who has their health has 1,000 dreams, but a person who doesn't have their health, you know, they have one dream. Yeah, just to get their health back. And so, with so much fear and uncertainty and confusion, you know, health especially the past couple of years, what are some of the key things that during the research of you putting together yet another book to help people control, you know, their wellness and have agency?
Well, thanks for asking. I want to tell you why I wrote it first, because, you know, my whole life has been about helping people with the areas that matter most. There's only about half a dozen. There's your body, there's your emotions, your relationships, your finances, Right? Your career, your business, and the spiritual side of your life. So I spent 5 years working on finance because I really want to bring people the best after 2008. I was angry at how it was. And so I wrote Money Master the Game, almost 700 pages, 674 pages, but it became number one bestseller and now still a bestseller of this century in that area. And so I was like, okay, I've taught energy and health and vitality, and I'm a total biohacker. You know, I think you've been to some of my events or seen the exposure to them. You know, they're literally 15,000, 30,000 people at a time going 12, 14 hours a day where most people won't sit for a 3-hour movie and they're out of their mind. Well, that requires a level of energy that's insane. And so I have to be a biohacker. So I'll give you an example. I work with an organization that's followed me for 4 years and tested my body in every way. They do all the top athletes, Tom Brady, Olympic athletes, people like that. And they discovered some wild things. I burn 11,300 calories on an average day on stage. That's—
Wow.
I do 4 days in a row or 6 days in a row, just one day. Um, you know, if you know lactic acid and you're with a friend and you're kind of running and you get to a point where you can't talk, that's because your lactic acid is 4. I'm at 18, I'm still speaking. I jump 1,100 times on average in a day at an event, going out in the audience, jumping up, going running up the stairs. And so they measured it, and, you know, I weigh 282 pounds, so every time you come down, it's 4 times your body weight. So it's 1,000 pounds, right? 1,000 times, it's a million pounds of pressure, literally. And so as a result of all this, they started measuring everything in me. And it's like, and then no matter what I did, I did well, but then I had breakdowns. And one of those breakdowns was I was following a friend down, you know, a young man down a snowboarding area. And regardless of age, he was much more skilled. And I had a horrible wipeout and I tore my rotator cuffs viciously. And the pain was like 9.9. I've lived with pain, but I mean, like nerve pain, like you can't stand it. And so I went and saw these different surgeons and they were all like, we got to cut it. I was like, well, what's the repair time? 4 to 6 months. It's like, and I have friends that still can't lift their shoulder up and I've had people get reinjured. And he said, well, you could get reinjured. There's got to be a better way. And so like, like you, I'm always looking for answers. And so I went to Peter Diamandis, a mutual friend of ours who's a partner of mine in business. And I said, Peter, who's the best in this area? I want to learn more about stem cells. So he introduced me to now my partner, Dr. Bob Hariri, who's kind of the founder of it. He did those original studies everybody's heard about where he took old rats and gave them young rats' blood and vice versa. The old rats got young, young rats got old. It's kind of vampirish in the beginning, but that's how stem cells were discovered almost 38 years ago. And so he said, Tony, here's what you do. He goes, you know, it's the repair you're going to get by the surgery does not have stability necessarily. It's— you don't have the repair time. Stem cells in America are weak. He said, here's where you can go in Panama to get them done. So I went down the very first day, had stem cells, and it was comfortable. I just had an IV and some shots in the shoulder. Second day, I felt really tired, and I woke up on the third day with not only my shoulder literally perfect— I've had the MRI, no surgery— in 3 days. But I've had spinal stenosis for the last 14 years, which is severe pain in your spine. I woke up with no pain in my spine. So it set me on a journey. And I got so immersed in everything of regenerative medicine, not just stem cells, everything that exists, that I was invited by the Pope because he holds every 2 years, believe it or not, the biggest stem cell conference, regenerative medicine conference. And they asked me to do the cleanup speaker, and I was like, I'm not just going to come for the cleanup, let me attend the 4 days.
Hmm.
And I met doctors that were doing things that you would think would happen 30 years in the future that are happening right now or getting approved by the FDA over the next 12 to 36 months. And I said, I got to share this with the world. So I went on this journey, it's called Life Force, and it's the best in regenerative medicine in the world. So it's everything you can imagine. So like, I'll give you the example of stem cells. If a fireman drops, or a person drops in a fire, we've all seen people's faces are, you know, look pretty horrific because they've been burned.
Hmm.
Just up until 3 years ago, there was one primary way to help someone survive. They use cadaver skin to try to wait for the body to heal, and then it Looks pretty horrific and you survive. Today, in 7 hospitals in the United States, they can take your own stem cells and spray them across your face. I have this in the book, pictures of it, it'll blow your mind. And you see this person a month later and it looks like they've never even been burnt.
Wow.
I mean, the type of changes that are available, you know, a lot of people know Jack Nicklaus, one of the greatest golfers of all time. He literally couldn't stand for 10 minutes at a time. And after doing a combination of different pieces I have in the book, one part of it was stem cells, part of it is this piece on pain control and shifting, He now plays golf again for the very first time. So there are so many tools available today that can transform your body and that are alternatives. And you want to look for alternatives because I remember when I was diagnosed years ago, they diagnosed me with a pituitary tumor, tumor in my back of the base of my brain. And I was like, I couldn't believe it. First of all, it's like, are you kidding me? I didn't have any side effects. They just looked at me because I'm so big and decided I had gigantism, which I do. And so we did the MRI, we saw it's there, and the doctor immediately wanted to cut me. And I was like, wait a second, let me see all the side effects of this. Death, that's one of them, you know, super low energy. And I was like, I think I want a second opinion. He got really angry with me, had really bad bedside manner. But I'd read the study. There's a study at the Mayo Clinic that was just done again recently, an update of the study, but they took 287 different patients And they found out that only 12% of the time was the second opinion the same as the first. Or a better way of saying it is 88% of the time it was a different opinion. So now the Mayo Clinic says everyone should get a second opinion. But I thought a second opinion from people that are the best in the world at what they do, who have different perspectives. So this book, it's 674 pages, not a tiny book, but it's designed to give you what's available right now that'll blow your mind. You probably don't even know is available that can change your body, increase your energy, give you more strength. But also, what are the things that are coming over the next 12 to 36 months that'll blow your mind? I mean, think about it. Most people know that 25 years ago, it took 13 years to figure out the human genome, $2.7 billion to do it, right? 13 years. And after 7 years, they'd only cracked the code on 1%. And people's like, this is never going to work. It's going to cost hundreds of billions. It's going to take 75 years. But because of technology doubling and costs dropping, It finished exactly as they designed in the 13-year mark. But today, not $2.7 million, it's $600 to do it and be done overnight.
Hmm.
That is what's happening with our health. We're all code, DNA. And that code, as I'm sure you know, can now be changed and manipulated. And we're at the very beginning of the greatest transformation in the human experience you've ever known. So when I did Money: Master the Game, I interviewed 50 of the smartest financial people in the world, the Ray Dalios, the Carl Icahns, Warren Buffetts, Here, I interviewed 168 of the greatest Nobel Prize winners, scientists, and breakthroughs in everything from cancer, heart disease, Alzheimer's, high performance, transformation, and it's all in one book. And I designed it so that you could change your own life, but also so that you could help people that you love. Because, you know, at this stage of my life, Jim, I'm sure you get the calls too. Once a week, somebody calls me and they got cancer, or they've got somebody who's had a stroke, or a family member with Alzheimer's. And so I wrote this book. So I go, here's what to do. Here's all the best in the world that's available right now. Here are the very best people. Here's what's available to give people that shortcut. Like you're talking about learn rapidly, this is the shortcut to the best that exists when it comes to your health and your strength and your energy available today.
I mean, you talk about that accelerated learning curve, that if somebody has decades of experience and they put into a book, people could download decades in days. And there's no better investment.
It's been my goal my whole life.
Absolutely. Thank you for doing that research and making that available to everybody. Where can people get a copy of the book?
They can— it comes out on January— excuse me, on February 8th, but you can get pre-orders by going to Amazon or anywhere else, or you can go to tonyrobbins.com and order it there as well if you want. They have some special bonuses if they want to do it that way as well.
You know, one of my— I have a plaque on the wall with Bruce Lee, and he's talked about immortality and living longer. It says— he says the key to immortality is first living a life worth worth remembering. I'm curious, how do you— we talk a lot about memory and memory improvement and becoming unforgettable. Can I ask how you want to be remembered?
As a lover, as a man who's loved people and brought answers. I mean, that's really the essence of it. I used to have all these fancy things, but it's like today I just want to help. If I can be helpful to somebody, it gives me tremendous joy. My hats say, you know, be a blessing and you're blessed, right? That's what these little hats are. I don't have a non-religious symbol, like a lucky But it's amazing how lucky you get when you're working hard to be a blessing. And, you know, it's amazing what happens for people. So my life is already so blessed, and, and whatever happens when I'm gone is gone. But while I'm here, I want to live fully, and I want to touch as many lives and help as many people as I can and keep growing myself.
Amazing. And as a resource also, besides the book, that institution that you're partners with, Dr. Bill and Peter and Dr. Bob, Yes. That's Fountain Life?
Yeah, it's called Fountain Life. You can go to fountainlife.com and we have 6 centers around the United States and we have some amazing technology. I'll just give you one example on just diagnostics. One of my doctor partners there called me one day, not long ago, about 3 or 4 months ago and said, Tony, we have this new technology that's just come out. It's the greatest breakthrough that we've seen in heart disease. And I said, well, I'm doing great heart-wise. He goes, Tony, you got to see this. It's called a CCTA scan. And what it does is uses AI. And if you've ever had a CT scan, it's kind of gray, it's hard to read, and they give you a calcium score. And a lot of surgeries and things happen that aren't necessary, but it's the best we've had technology-wise. This literally, with AI technology, opens every single artery, goes through, and you can see everything in your body. And then it highlights whether you have like calcified material that's fully calcified, which means it's healed, Or whether it's more liquid, which is the widowmaker, right, that can break off and give you a heart attack. And so I thought, okay, I'm gonna come do it. And I had my father-in-law with me, and he's almost 80 years old. He's a beautiful man who's a, you know, had his own business, was in the lumber business, and really is taking care of himself for the most part. But, you know, you get near 80 and everybody's talking about you're old. And so I could see him starting to lose the ledge. I said, hey, Dad, why don't we go over together? I'm gonna go do this study. And I said, guess what? We can do it one, you know, an hour. And I said, it'll show us what's going on. And I said, we both are old enough, we'll have some of this calcification, but they also show you what to do to turn it around. And I think, I think we should go do it together. And he goes, okay. So he went with us. We went together there to Fountain Life. And I'll never forget, my father-in-law, I thought he was getting old. He's clean as a whistle. I was like, there's— he's like totally great. Yes, he has calcified stuff, but it was hardened. So there's zero risk for him, right? And then, you know, we have some other material there, like I've had, that can open up. Like if you've got an area that— like I used to have an ankle that somebody come to massage me, don't touch the ankles. You barely touch it, the nerves go crazy. I feel like I'm getting a shock. And we have this technology that you— it's really simple. It opens it up with fluid. It's like a little shot and it opens up the nerves and then you heal like in a matter of minutes. It sounds ridiculous, but I had it done. So I knew Dad had this problem with his hip walking, so they did his hip in 20 minutes. He now— his heart's perfect. I'll never forget, we get back on the plane, he looks at me, he goes, you know, you know, Tony, some people talk about living to like 110, 120. I don't know about that, but you know, I could live another 20 years with this heart, and this hip's perfect and all that stuff. He goes, you know, you've only been married to my daughter 22 years. He goes, that's a long time. That's like another lifetime, you know. And watching his entire perspective change. There's tests now. There's a new blood test called GRAIL that can test now more than 35 different cancers. Most of the cancers that get you are the ones we have no tests for, because then you find out at stage 3 or 4, where it's pretty tough to turn around. This says stage 1. And then we have all these different— we, you know, the Pittsburgh Steelers, one of our offices is in Philadelphia, in Pittsburgh, and we have the entire team that we work with there. So whether you want peak performance or you want greater longevity or you want to get rid of some pain, you know, fountainlife.com is a place you can go and learn more about what we do there if you're interested.
That's extraordinary. A couple of days ago, I had the opportunity to visit your New York office and get a tour by your team there. And it's top-notch. And I'm excited about starting some of my processes there also as well. When you tackle— I mean, we definitely live in an age of abundance. We have unfeathered access to the world's information so much more than people even just a handful of years ago. When you tackle a new subject, whether it happens to be the books you've written on financial literacy, on money, On money, on health. Do you have a process in terms of your own learning journey?
Yeah. I always go, I look for who are the people producing the greatest results, not who can talk a good game, who's producing the result. A lot of people can talk about it. It's interesting. I'm a results guy and I believe in modeling. My original teacher was a man named Jim Rohn, you've probably heard of, and he used to always say, success leaves clues. If you want something, make it a study, immerse yourself. When I wrote Money Master the Game, I said, okay, I've been coaching Paul Tudor Jones, one of the top 10 traders for 25 years. I know more than most people ever know in a lifetime, but I want to know it all. So I'm going to interview 50 of the smartest financial people on earth. Ray Dalio, Carl Icahn, Warren Buffett. I want to interview people that started with nothing and became multibillionaires. And they're all different. But my whole belief is you look for— there's like 3 skill sets that we all should have if we're great. And you're really good at these, Jim. I'm not throwing—
Thank you.
smoke your way. It's just the truth. What's made you great, what makes me great, what made, you know, what made, you know, everything take off for any type of business or life is understanding pattern recognition. If you understand pattern recognition, you know what to do with finance. If you understand pattern recognition, you know what to do in business. If you're great at pattern recognition with music, you can do an amazing job. If you're good at pattern recognition with dancing, you can move your body in ways most people never dream of. The people that become masters at pattern recognition, but then pattern utilization— they recognize the pattern but then they use it. Those are the people that have extraordinary lives. And then there is one third level, and that is pattern creation, where you literally start— you played other people's music so much, and now you know enough that now you're able to create your way of doing things. And I think those 3 skill sets are there. So my process is, who's the best in the world on earth, and how do I get access to them? And at this stage of my life, that's not that difficult to do. But even with the money book, I knew some of them, but then I'd say, listen, I'd get 4 or 5 people I knew to refer me, and I'd say, give me 30 minutes. My average interview was 3.5 hours. I remember Jack Bogle, who's now passed away, who created Vanguard, saying, I invited Tony Robbins into my house for 30 minutes, and 3.5 hours later, I had the most probing interview of my entire career. Because I'm pulling those tools out. And once they saw the level I was playing the game at, then they wanted to help. And that's— now Ray Dalio's a good friend of mine. So the people I have access to that I can pitch and catch with, Because I immersed myself and because I learned from all the people around them, it gave me a greater base. So that's what I do with anything. But then I try to take that complexity, like finance with all these people and all the different approaches, some are macro traders, some are value traders, et cetera, and say, what are the common denominators? How do I simplify that so we can actually use it so you can follow through? And that's my process.
Yeah, our ability to learn well and rapidly and then translate that learning into action is an incredible competitive advantage. And you've done a lot of the work for people in your books. So they don't have to have relationships with those 50 or 100+ individuals. They get that access by, you know, they read and they could succeed. So thank you for doing that.
I appreciate it very much. Thank you, buddy.
Tony, thank you so much for being on our show.
Thanks for having me on, Jim. I appreciate it. Keep on doing your great work. You're helping so many people.
That's nice. I encourage everybody to get 3 copies of Life Force. I mean, this is something because, you know, again, you talk about it, how leaders are readers. Get a copy for yourself and get 2 to gift away because you don't know the life that you might be helping and even potentially even be saving. And so it's so important. I encourage everyone to actually take a screenshot wherever you're consuming this podcast episode, whether it's on Spotify or iTunes or Google the extended version on YouTube also as well. And tag Tony, tag myself, and share one thing you're going to do to have your personal breakthrough in the area of health. You know, it's some— just one thing, and I'll actually repost some of my favorites, and I'll gift my 2 extra copies to individuals out there just randomly, just as a thank you for participating. Hi, Kwik Brain. It's your brain coach. I want to thank you so much for watching. This video, 3 things to do. Number 1, make sure you share this because when you teach something, you get to learn it twice. Update your learning so you can update other people's learning as well. Number 2, make sure you subscribe to this channel so you don't miss a thing because if you miss a video, you miss a lot. And finally, make sure you hit that bell so you're notified and you find out when we put out the latest and the greatest. One extra thing, if you want really close attention, then Text me. Here is my phone number: 310-299-9362. Did you remember that number? 310-299-9362. Shoot me a text and we'll stay in touch. Ask me your burning question, and I wish your days be full lots of life, lots of love, lots of laughter, and always lots of learning. I'll see you in our next video.
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