Catholic Church and Pope Francis

YouTube commentary by astrologer Joni Patry (uploaded April 2, 2019) that links global religious/political unrest to Vedic astrological transits (Rahu/Ketu in Gemini/Sagittarius) and presents an astrological reading of Pope Francis (born Dec 17, 1936, 5:10 PM, Buenos Aires). Patry interprets the Pope's natal chart (Aries ascendant; planets grouped in the 9th and 10th houses) to argue the Pope is opinionated, ambitious, and that upcoming Saturn/Ketu transits will force him to confront clergy sexual-abuse scandals — possibly prompting resignation and causing a broader decline in institutional religion while spirituality rises.
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Hi, I'm Joni Petrie and welcome to my YouTube channel. Well, today I'd like to talk about some major issues going on with the Catholic Church.
And relative to that, I'd like to show you the chart of Pope Francis because I think by looking at his chart we can see where this is all headed. But first of all, talking about what's going on in the world today, the transits of Rahu and Ketu will always tell us what's going on in terms of the cycles of our planet, of our world, what's happening. And starting in March of 2019, we have Ketu just shifted into Sagittarius and Rahu just shifted into Gemini. Now Rahu and Ketu are in a sign for 18 months and it takes 18 and a half years for them to go through all 12 signs.
So looking at this, I find that whenever Ketu goes into the sign of Sagittarius, it brings up so many opinions. Fanatics, beliefs. It's all about beliefs. See, Sagittarius is the sign of religion.
Ironically. And this stirs up a lot of contention with people's beliefs. People become enraged and fanatic and terrorize people with their beliefs.
And.
As a result, 18 and a half years ago, when Rahu was in Gemini, in Ketu and Sagittarius, we had September 11, 2001. This was the result of fanatics religious beliefs.
And this, this is going to be happening again. As a matter of fact, yesterday, and Rahu and Ketu have just shifted into Sagittarius. Yesterday was a terrorist attack in New Zealand.
On a mosque.
I mean, New Zealand, I thought was the safest country in the world and we haven't even seen nothing yet.
But since this is all about religion basically and belief systems and, you know, all of this involves politics too, why.
Think about what really makes people emotional.
Religion and politics, right? So now we're going to get people overheated about all these issues. And that's why we're having all these problems and secrets and things coming up as leaders of all the countries. It's not just the United States. It's happening of course in Venezuela, it's happening in France, it's happening in Canada, it's happening all over Brazil, you name it, Korea. It's happening everywhere. That there is all, there's all these scandals being uncovered. You know, I think probably most all politicians are guilty of some kind of scandal. It's just it used to be covered up before and the media didn't announce it. Think about if Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, was president today with all of his affairs with Marilyn Monroe and all of that, it was just kept secret before because these people that come into a place of power.
Usually have done whatever it takes to get there. And that doesn't always mean being nice. What's the saying? The nice guys always finish last.
So let's look at to get a further clue as to what's been happening in the Catholic Church, which, oh my God, this is probably the worst scandal of all. To think that these priests who are condoned as spiritual guides.
Like a God.
They do masses, communion, they're here.
Turning wine into the blood of Christ. They're.
And.
Raping, molesting little boys, altar boys, sweet little innocent children.
This is deplorable. It's the worst case scenario, couldn't be nastier. And now finally it's being uncovered. One of the things that I'll never forget a while back when they interviewed one of the children that came forward and he was awarded a great deal of money.
And they were like, oh.
What do you think of this? You know, you're being given this, you know, money now. What do you think? And he says, I don't care about the money. The only thing I care about is now people believe me. Imagine trying to tell someone back in the day when these priests were so revered that they were molesting you and no one believed you. You were the one with the problem, you were the sick one. It destroys those children's lives forever. No money can take that away. But now.
The Pope.
He really hasn't given it justice or come forth with the truth.
And now.
Looking at the Pope's chart, I'm just going to say it flat out. He's going to either have to step down.
Or it's the end of the Catholic Church. So let me put up Pope Francis chart and we're going to take a look at what's going to be happening based on this chart. It's very telling. So I have Pope Francis, born December 17, 1936. And the time I have is 5:10pm in Buenos Aires.
In Argentina. So with this chart, Pope Francis has about 26 degrees, 26 degrees of Aries as his ascendant. And looking at that.
Mars is very potent for this chart because it's the ruler of his chart and it goes to the sixth house.
And the sixth house deals with service, it deals with health, with healing. And as Mars being in Virgo, you know, he is of service, he works hard. That is a beautiful placement for someone who is here to serve and help Others.
But I will say this. Mars is energy. And with it being in the sixth house, it does denote someone who is very ambitious. And so he really dedicated himself to what he wanted to do. Now, let me tell you something else about this Pope. He wasn't always a priest. He had a very normal life. Yes. As a matter of fact, I read somewhere that he was a. He worked in a nightclub as a security. One of the security people that would kick people out. I mean, he. He's not. He's not somebody who was always in the church.
Nothing wrong with that. I think that's probably advantageous to be in the real world and to denounce it, to become more spiritual. So going to his ninth house, you can't help but just spot all the planets. In the ninth house, he's got Mercury, Jupiter, sun and Rahu. Now, the ninth house is the house of religion and spirituality and truth. So he is a truth seeker. He wants to find the truth, he wants to teach. The ninth house is also the house of teaching you. So he was a teacher of spirituality and a seeker of spirituality.
And on top of that, they're even in the sign of Sagittarius. When you have Aries as your ascendant, all of the houses are relative to the natural zodiac. So the ninth house being relative to the ninth sign, Sagittarius, they're one in the same.
So he has Jupiter in Sagittarius, ruler of the 9th and the 9th. That is phenomenal. That is somebody who wants to teach, travel, speak the truth.
Because this is what the ninth house is all about. And he is radical about it. Why.
He. Jupiter is there. Jupiter in Sagittarius, it's in its own sign, in the ninth house, ruler of the ninth and the ninth, and it's with the sun. The sun is our spirit, our life force. It's in Sagittarius. Very opinionated about their beliefs. Plus it's with Rahu, which magnifies it all the more.
My God, Jupiter, Rahu, Sun, Rahu.
And even Mercury, which is how we think in the sign Sagittarius.
But Jupiter is the teacher. Anyway. It's called guru.
That's. That's pretty important. And I would say that this, this is the chart of a priest, a Catholic priest.
And with Mars being strong in the sixth house, he was ambitious enough to make it to the Pope, the highest order of the Catholic Church. Wow. And even when we go to his 10th house, he's got Venus conjunct the moon. It's a lovely aspect to have. Very Sweet, very kind.
And I might add, it is in Capricorn that he has his moon in Venus, once again, the sign of somebody that's very ambitious wants to climb to the top, and he did.
So. But Venus Moon.
In jaimane astrology, when you put Venus moon together, it's always a great. They are fabulous together. And in the 10th house, he represents and he speaks for things he believes in, which is kindness. And it's just a very sweet conjunction to have eat, no matter what sign it's in, but it is in Capricorn. And so the ruling planet, the moon and Venus, is Saturn. And Saturn is in its own sign of rulership, Aquarius. It's in the 11th house, which is the house of great gains. So he achieved his highest potential and desire to be the Pope. That's what I. That's how I see this now.
Because the moon rules the fourth house and Venus is ruler of the second and the seventh house. This brings a real strong power to this tenth house. You know, the fourth house is actually said to be the seat of power, and it brings this. This elevates it. The ruler of the fourth in the tenth.
And Venus being ruler of the second brings great wealth.
Through his work, through his career. You know.
The priest and the nuns. I know the nuns. They take a vow to poverty. Imagine that. Is that necessary? But they live.
Like kings.
So very interesting. His chart says great wealth.
So.
Ketu being in the third house, wherever Ketu is, means you feel like something's never whole or complete, something's always missing. And Ketu in the third house represents that.
He'S always learning. He never feels like he is complete with his mission, his learning, his understanding, always gathering more and more information.
But Rahu in the ninth is all about his teachings, his spirituality, his truths, his fanaticism, his obsessions. In the ninth house, Sun Rahu can be over the top.
Strong, powerful, but excessive with the ego. Okay, it's in the ninth house. So.
He seems like a very kind man, I believe.
And he's opened the door to talk about things that no other Pope has spoken about. So he is a little progressive. But looking at his chart, my goodness, is he opinionated.
But I think he's dedicated to his work. But.
He has to come forth with this truth he cannot deny and let these priests get away with this. And this is what's been going on, and this is why he's going to probably have to step down. Let me show you what's going on in his chart and how this reflects to the Future, his future and possibly the future of the Catholic Church. Because I have said many times with Ketu and Saturn coming together, transiting in the sky together and in the sign of Sagittarius, this is the breakdown of spirituality.
Well, actually let me back up a little bit. The breakdown of religion because spirituality is different than religion. Religion is man made laws imposed on people.
And spirituality is finding that God, that spirit within yourself and not having to go outside of yourself to find these truths because it's all within you. What was this? The kingdom of God resides within.
Not in the church.
Of course a lot of people do need teachers to teach them initially, but not all these man made rules.
I have to say I went to Catholic school and some of the things that the nuns told us as little children is actually appalling in my opinion. And back then I never believed it and I'd ask questions and they said we weren't supposed to know those things.
So needless to say, at an early age I started seeking different beliefs outside of what I was being taught because it didn't make sense. What? We went to hell if we ate meat on Friday and then they changed the rules later. What about those people that are in hell right now?
They changed so many of the rules. And the one about if you're not baptized before a child is not baptized before it dies, they go to limbo and they never get to be released from limbo. Who says there's a limbo anyway? You get my drift? There are so many things that.
Do not make sense that they teach in many religions. Many, many religions are all the same, that they're man made laws and rules. Why? To control the masses.
I think religion had a good intention, but it's gotten out of hand from those that abuse power.
And the Catholic Church has been abusing their power for way too long. It is the richest institution in the world, the Vatican.
So getting back to what's going to be happening. The Saturn Ketu in Sagittarius, that is a dissolving, a breakdown of beliefs, a breakdown of all religions around the world's world. That is dishonesty because the truth will prevail during this time. And that's what's coming out. So.
Looking at the Pope's chart and knowing that Saturn Ketu, many people are losing their faith these days. They believed in this church, they believed in these priests. And look what's happening. It is dissolving. And looking at the Pope's chart here he has Mercury, Jupiter, sun and Rahu in the sign that transiting Saturn and transiting Ketu are joining.
And.
As Ketu first comes together in this sign, which is this month, it will soon be crossing over Mercury probably around this.
It'S getting really close around next fall. But you're going to see just by the fact that Saturn and Ketu are together here in his ninth house of his spirituality as truth. And it's breaking down him.
Now, Ketu coming across his son, he's losing his faith, he is losing what he believes in. I bet he won't tell the world that though, Ketu crossing over the sun. Now remember, Ketu just entered into Sagittarius this month of March. So, so it's at 29 degrees and the notes travel backwards. So it will start at 29 and it will end up at 0 degrees. So it's going to be approaching all of these planets within the next year and a half. And this is going to dissolve his position. He will have to step down. Never before has this ever happened in history. And this will happen looking at his chart, it will happen.
So Saturn and Saturn, Jupiter.
Saturn will go. He is in Sati Sati. It's another biggie when Saturn is in the sign before the sign of or the sign after the moon during this seven and a half year period. Very difficult. That's Sati Sati. So now that Saturn has been in Sagittarius, it has been in the sign before the moon. This was the start of Sati Sati. And once Saturn goes over his moon in the 10th house. Yes, that's even further indication that it's over. He will not reign as the pope till he dies. Or maybe he will, I won't say that, but.
This is very stressful on him. This is a very, very difficult chart. And everything is grouped up together in the signs of Sagittarius and Capricorn where Saturn is going to be transiting over the next few years. And once transiting, Jupiter does come into play and into the ninth house, this could represent his freedom. Now, Jupiter in April will be on his Rahu. Jupiter is going to come up to zero degrees of Sagittarius in April, stand still before it backs up into Scorpio again.
But I bet in April there's going to be some event that comes forward that says where he's willing to admit to some of the problems and what he has been doing wrong.
But.
With Ketu approaching Ketu, Saturn approaching both Mercury, Jupiter and the sun.
It'S all a little bit too late.
And the public is not going to take kindly to this. And particularly you will see as Saturn moves up and crosses over his Venus and his moon.
Kind of sad. But a lot of the good things he has done may not be remembered during this time. Just to focus on what's wrong.
But this is what needs to come out now. And this is what's happening globally. All over the world, things are changing. So the Catholic Church is losing its power, losing its.
Attendees, losing the people that believe in it. It's all transforming and changing. Because the truth is.
That spirituality is what's going to be presented. People will start recognizing more of who they are, what they're here to recognize and do with themselves.
Yes, this is a time.
A major transformative time in the world, and things are going to be changing for the better as a consequence of this destruction. It's going to take many years, isn't going to happen overnight, but this is the beginning of a new age where people are moving more towards their spirituality.
And their truths within.
Instead of giving their power away outside of themselves in every respect. That even goes for politics.
Politics and religion.
They'Re not anything you want to discuss at a party. Otherwise you may not have very many friends when you leave. So if you want to win friends and influence people, don't talk religion or politics. That was what my mother always told me. Funny, I didn't listen, did I? So, but with that, I'd like to close.
And if you would like to learn more about Vedic astrology, you can go to my university, which is universityofvedicastrology.com or if you would like to learn more about me or get a reading, you can go to my website, which is galacticenter. Org. Thank you.
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