Joni Patry Dr. Sharnael - Written in the Stars

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Okay, guys, we are live. I am so excited. Welcome to my channel. My name is Dr. Charnell Wolverton Sihon and we're here at TruTV and we have a very, very exciting guest and exciting topic today. We're on our second week series of Written and the Stars. And I cannot even believe that I actually have Johnny Petri on with me today. I've been trying to get her for freaking three years. So I'm like, yes, I'm kind of girl fanning a little bit because I just love her so much. And so welcome to the show.

Thank you. My pleasure. I'm excited to be here.

Awesome. Well, before we get started, I do have a couple announcements. Definitely want to remind everybody, if you're not subscribed to this channel, get on board. And also Joni has hers too. She's a great one to follow, but helping get the subscribers. That way you get the notifications too about all the shows that are coming up and everything that's happening. And you kind of be in the know of things. Definitely, like share, do all things that help with algorithms. Get on the newsletter, SwiftFire.org go to the website and that way you're kind of in tune with any new resources that we have. All the books that I've written, all my classes, there's lots of great free things in there as well, as well as my weekly blog. So check that out. I want to mention there's two conferences coming up. We have one this coming in March. This is. We're already in March, you guys. It's March.

The 27th, 28th and 29th. I have Dr. Lucky coming in and we are going to talk about energy frequency loyalty contracts. You know, just getting out of the ruts, whatever's going on with people. If you're stuck somewhere, this is a way to get unstuck. And then we also have Robert Stevens in for our conference, and that is the 17th, 18th and 19th in Baton Rouge. So definitely go to the website and there's a lot of information there where you can find that if you're interested in. In doing that. But without further ado, first of all, I'd like to know, how did you get involved in astrology? Like how what's. Oh, my gosh, your story.

This story goes way back because I've been into it practically since I was a child. Well, first of all, my mom had astrology books all over the house when I was growing up and we happen to be the same. Sun sign in West Astrology were both Scorpios So I started reading the book and I thought, how does this know so much about me? This is fascinating. And then I go into my whole story. The people that know me, they're probably sick of hearing about it. But, you know, I was around when President Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. And I remember the night before he came, Gene Dixon went on tv and she begged him not to go.

What?

Pretty much said, you know, you'll be assassinated, you go. Not in those words, but she begged him. I'm not kidding you. I saw it black and white TV back then, and I always wondered, how did that woman know? And she was an astrologer and a psychic. So I was fascinated ever since then. And with the books around the house, I started studying and I actually found a teacher by the time I got to college, a really good teacher in Austin, Texas. I went to UT in Austin, and while my. My roommates were going to sorority meetings, I was going to astrology meetings with hippies. So that's my history, and I've been into it ever Since. I have 40 years of experience behind me now. Oh, my gosh.

You know, being live in person and learning with someone, that would be amazing. I would. That's why I want to learn with you. I love your. I love that you have classes online, but you also have meetings in real life. You have a big conference coming up, right?

Yes. I'm so excited because this is the year I'm doing it up big. I have a huge conference and I do Vedic astrology, which is the astrology from India. I'll explain that. But I have this amazing conference with some of the world's best teachers in Dallas, my home. Easy to fly to get to, right? Especially for you, Chanel. And. But it's June 2nd through the 5th, and you can find that information on my website. It's called the Future of Astrology and it's Joni Patrice Astrology and Astrology conference here in Dallas, June 2nd through the 5th. So I hope people that are interested will check it out.

Yes, definitely. That's really gonna be fun. I wish that I could go. I'm actually going to be on another teaching thing during that time, but I'm gonna get there, I'm telling you.

Yeah.

The Vedic versus tropical. We had someone last week on the first series talk about the tropical, but there's a big, big, huge difference in Vedic and tropical. Can you go and explain that a little bit?

Well, tropical astrology is based on pretty much the sun and the seasons. And you see, I did tropical western astrology for 20 years. And I wanted something that was more predictive. And when I found out that the astrology from India, it's called Vedic, the astrology that is so predictive, I made it my choice to learn it. And, you know, here's something else that people probably don't realize, that Vedic astrology uses the sidereal system of calculation, which is actually where the planets truly are. Astronomically, Western astrology is off by about 24 degrees in the Zodiac. So when I found out that this was the true placements, I thought, okay, I've got to learn this. But what's fascinating about this astrology is it's really more star based because the zodiac shifts backwards almost a full sign, but not quite. But it's based on the movement of the stars. And the stars have been moving over a long period of time. That's why the zodiacs do not match up. But the zodiac is constantly changing because the stars are moving. They move very slow. They're called fixed stars because in a lifetime, you don't really see them move. They move one degree backwards in the zodiac every 72 years. So the whole zodiac will move through all 12 signs. And this is called procession of the equinoxes. And it actually takes about 26,000 years for it to go through all signs. But this is actually relative to the stars. And so Indian astrology incorporates what's called the 27 Nakshatras. Just like we have 12 signs. Yes, we work with the 12 signs as well. But there's also some deeper, richer meanings in the 27 Nakshatras and what they are. I just say they're smaller portions of the Zodiac. There's 13°, 20 minutes portions, 27 of them. But their meanings are due to the meanings of the stars in this portion of the Zodiac. And I've been able to predict things that there's no way I could predict in Western astrology without using these 27 nakshatras that really take in the meanings of the stars.

Yes. And I, I actually found you during the beginning of all this stuff that. I'm not going to say the words because I want to keep my channel.

But you were talking, I mean, about like the stuff with the politics and the thing with that and all the stuff. I mean, you were very on the forefront of, you know, giving people a heads up even about, like, lockdowns and, and this and that. What are you seeing for now? Like what, what's.

Yes. Okay. And that's, you know, that's what I do with Vedic astrology. Because it really is so predictive for the future. And let me just say I predicted the thing that you don't want to say, and I won't say it either because I understand, but. But it was based on the fact that every 18 and a half years, when, when the nodal axes, which are, which are the nodes, Rahu and Ketu is what we call them, but it's the north node and the south node of the moon, that every 18 and a half years when they go into a particular sign, which is Gemini, Rahu and Gemini and Ketu and Sagittarius, every time they go in these signs, something catastrophic always happens.

Wow.

I. I traced it back like the last. So this was of course in, let's see, 20. 20, 20, of course, is where they were in these signs again. But as I traced it back 18 and a half years prior to that, we came to 2001 and we all know what happened September 11, 2001. Then I traced it back to 18 and a half years prior to THAT, and that was around 1982. It was the AIDS virus that hit and, you know, scared everyone to death on the planet and so much loss. Then I traced it back 18 and a half years prior to that. It was 1963. That was Kennedy's assassination. So then I went one more time, and I think I'll leave it at that. 1945, it was the bombing of Hiroshima. So I knew something catastrophic was going to happen that was going to cause great loss of life. And I predicted it way before it happened. And so I gotta say that the next 18 and a half years will be prepared, I'm sure. Which is what I think it's going to be the year of 2038.

So before it happens one more time. Well, however many times. Yeah, yeah, if we're.

If I'm even still around.

Right.

Yeah.

Interesting. Well, I know that you had some things, even for March and for this year, from what I. I get information through dreams, through visions. I'm. I consider myself very intuitive and I will wake up and I will hear sentences and if I dive into them, I kind of go with it and usually just post it. And I've been able to predict things, even the Trump thing and some other. Other stuff too. But I'm finding this is a really good tool because my mentor was Bob Jones and he always said, as above, so below. And he really watched and predicted like comments and different things. And he'd say, well, that means this and this and this and this. And so he really looked at the stars. I never dived into it too much before I met you and kind of got into this a little bit more. But. But yeah, the more I'm studying the more when I get that unction now I'm like going to look to see like what are the scores doing and see if what I'm getting is matching what's getting, you know with. And I got this month I had something for the 7th and the 21st actually I got that December last year. Started talking about March 7th and 21st and then lo and behold I, I go on and you had a video literally about something with those dates. And I'm like that just made me feel good, you know, it's like. But what are you seeing with you know, the exposure. Exposure things and truth and, and anything else that we need to meet maybe be have a heads up on for this year.

Yeah. So what's going on in March is. It's pretty amazing because well, Mars has been retrograde forever it feels like but it was, it kind of when it goes retrograde it stays in the same sign for almost six months. And it was in Taurus. Remember I'm talking these side sidereal zodiac, not tropical. So therefore if it's in Taurus that means it's in Gemini because it moves back a sign in this in the sidereal zodiac. But, but in Taurus it caused all sorts of bringing things from, back from the past. Everyone's kind of gone through something from the past that's been, you know, that needed to be healed from past memories, family or things like that. Everyone's went through that for the last six, six months. But now it's going to go into gemini. This is March 12th that it's that Mars is going to go into Gemini and it will be there till May 10. And during this time it's going to be in Gemini which is all about communications, it's all about the media and it's all about bringing things to light. What's been going on with the media, with communications in the world. It's going to bring things to light and it's going to bring. I always look at things as a healing. So things need to be brought to the light so that we understand what it is we need to heal. If we're in the dark and we can't see it, we don't know what to do. So this is going to bring things out in the open in terms of how and it's been being exposed over a long period of time. But this is going to be where there's going to be crystal clear about what's happening. And also around March 14th through the 16th, that window of time, I think there's going to be some major revelations and particularly dealing with China because what I do is to make my world predictions. I look at the charts of the world leaders of different countries and their countries charts and I have an amazing chart I work with for the United States and September 11th, I mean it was all predicted with this chart. It's actually the chart of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, which of course was July 4th, 1776 in Philadelphia, 6:30pm in case you. But that chart really tells the story. So looking at the chart for the United States, the transit of Mars will cross over into natal Mars in that chart, which Mars is aggression, war, conflict. And it's going to be on Xi Jinping Son. So he's going to be angry about something relative to the United States because the United States chart aligns with his chart and Mars is the planet of conflict, war, aggression.

So we have something to look forward to with March concerning that. I've been predicting that for over a year that this is the month that we're going to really start seeing things heat up in that area. And furthermore with Neptune, Neptune's just changed signs in the sidereal zodiac. It's gone into the sign of Pisces. And what's going to happen around those dates? March I'd say 14th through the 16th, that window we're going to have a T square astrologically where that means that the aspects that Mars is going to be at around.01 degree of Gemini, which is all about the communications and the Moon will be opposed that. But Neptune, sun and Mercury. Neptune deals with things we can't see and it deals with deception and delusion. It's squaring Mars. So that's why I say watch where all this information comes out and the conflict that's going to evolve from it. But essentially I, you know, I'm, I always believe in the divine spirit. And you know, even though there's a duality here on Earth, there's the negative and the positive always the light will persevere. And I feel like these things need to come out in order for the light to heal it. And it's been a long time coming. But I believe by the end of this year and moving to a year from today, there will be remarkable, remarkable healing. And yes, we're going to go through a lot in the next few months and sidereally Jupiter is going to change Signs, it's going to go into Aries, which means new beginnings and breakthroughs. So you're going to see all sorts of new beginnings, breakthroughs, plus in technology. Technology. And more than anything, you're going to love this, you healing. So there's going to be so many new modalities of healing, working with energy. Because I'm looking at planet Uranus. Uranus is the planet of electricity and energy, vibration. All of these healing modalities are going to become more mainstream and looked upon as the healing techniques of the future. So that's some of the things I'm seeing.

That's great. I love that. I mean we. And God knows we need it. I mean, yeah, technology has been around forever. It's just not been accepted, so.

Exactly.

Or it's been hidden by certain people who want to keep it for themselves and they don't, you know, they want to charge with other things. Anyway, that goes back to the thing we don't want to talk about, but on a personal level. So like you, I look to you and you've done my chart, you've done my children, you've even done like a dog for me too. We talked about this last week.

Because there's ways to look at two people together, right. And kind of see how, where people are going. Like explain a little bit about that because I know you do worldwide stuff, but you do personal readings as well.

Yeah. Because, you know, everything has a birth chart, everything has a beginning and everything, you know, you can see where the planets are on the day and time and place of your birth. It's your life map. And where the planets continue to move through your map is how we make our future predictions. And it's extraordinarily accurate. I mean, astrology is really the science of sciences. It includes spirituality, geometry, physics, mythology, psychology, everything you can get from a chart from beginning to end. And yes, you can take two people's charts and lay them over each other and see how they affect one another and you know in the relationship, in what areas, what you need to know. And I believe, I believe in reincarnation. So I believe your birth chart is a sum accumulation of everything you've ever been in your past lives. So when you look at your birth chart, you can see the patterns, the karma, your destiny, and most of all, what you can do consciously as a human being to change it so you do not have to come back and repeat the same karmas over and over and over again like most of us do just because we're not aware of the Main things that our astrological birth chart will tell us, our horoscope will tell us. What is our destiny, what is our karma, what is it we need to learn in this lifetime? Most importantly.

Wow, that's deep. I mean, that affects. I mean, we all want. The more we know ourselves, the better equipped we are to do whatever we're supposed to do, you know, whatever the purpose is. And there's so many tools out there, but this is a big one just for even the everyday decision making, you know, whether it's like, do I build a house, do I sell a house, do I do sign this contract, do I change my career, you know, do I date this dude or marry this girl or, you know, there's.

Yeah.

Shows up. Like, everything shows up every. You know, it's crazy. I mean, and even when you did my chart, you didn't tell me about the dog situation. But later on, when I mentioned to you my dog had passed, you were like, well, it actually was in there. You didn't want to say, to like, create or bring attention. But even someone's death can show up. And you've predicted some of those world leaders and different things and stuff has happened. I mean, even floods or, you know, airplane accidents. Like, you've. You've kind of put a lot of stuff out there. What is some of your bigger ones that you predicted? And it's actually happened, like earthquakes.

Didn't you have a. Yeah, the earthquakes are a pretty big one. You know, I even. A lot of people want to know about bitcoin. I told people when bitcoin would go up and what would what be happening with that, with the economy. Everyone wants to know what's going to be happening with the economy going on in the world. That's one of the most important things that I talk about. And you know, just going back, you can see everything.

Well, when Trump first got elected, I predicted that and nobody believed me.

You got some pushback on it, too. There were some people need to say that they were not happy, but you got a lot of good people who were like, yay. And this is awesome too. And that's kind of how I think that's about.

If you got to be objective as an astrologer, otherwise you're not going to be correct. So, you know, I'm looking at this chart and I'm thinking, how can this be possible? Right? Because, you know, if they said Hillary was gonna win, there was no.

I thought the same thing. I had a dream in 2007 that he would be president. And I Started talking about it then and I've had to confirm different things along the way and, and I'm glad it was all written and published and documented and. Yeah, but it did feel crazy saying it out loud at the time.

It does feel a little crazy. And it was not warmly recepted at the conferences that I went to astrological conferences at all.

Yeah, actually, you know, I did. I think, think now I actually do remember you. Robert Steele had you on his show. Yeah, that's how I found you. Is Robert, who is past now, he's no longer with us here. Ish, whatever how you want to say that. But I know you're in Texas, which is a southern kind of Bible belt area, and I'm in Louisiana kind of close to you. I'm actually from Montana for those of people who know that. But down here it's kind of different. And so sometimes these topics can get a little weird. Like how do you bridge like Christianity and, or, you know, there are Bible applications that talk about, you know, finding Jesus, you know, when he was born and that kind of stuff. Like what is your say on, on Christians using astrology?

Well, astrology is all throughout the Bible, as you well know. And there's nothing wrong with astrology. As a matter of fact, the popes used to use astrologers. I don't know why all of a sudden they changed in the recent history. But I always tell people, who do you think the three wise men were? They were called the Magi, which actually translates to astrologer. They were following the stars to see the birth of Jesus. That is the most specific astrological thing in the Bible. And they're always making relative to the stars, the prophets. And you know, astrology is simply cycles when you understand where the planets are relative to each other. And this is the aspects, this is geometry, this is the cycles. This is just nothing but energy and cycles and vibration. And when you understand this, you will understand the secrets of the universe. That's, that's the truth and the divinity. As I got into astrology, especially Vedic astrology, I became a lot more spiritual because I started to understand the workings of the universe and the divine through the stars and through people and hearts. It's just, it's all interrelated and it's all so beautiful. So no matter what religion you are, I believe in all religion, the divinity of God, whatever it is, it all means the same thing. And basically my belief with, with spirituality is the truth of the heart, energy, life, love and compassion coming together. Really what, what I think is the most spiritual thing in the world is how you treat other people. That is everything. Because everyone is the divine spark of God within them. And when we connect to other people in that manner, what a beautiful world it is. It's, it's nothing but love. And that's what God is.

Yes, totally agree.

Awesome. Well, if you are going to start and you're just like fresh, never done anything, what would you say for people to start are there? I know you have books, I know you have classes. Like what, what's the first step for just the average Joe watching this for the first time and going, I've been kind of nervous about this, but I think I want to jump in. Like what do they do?

Okay, well, the first thing is I have a YouTube channel. I give little tidbits here and there on, on lessons and learning. So my YouTube channel's by name, Joanie Petri. My beginning book, Eastern Astrology for Western Minds. I have, I've written 11 books, they're all on Amazon. You can get them also on, off my website, which my website is Galactic Center.org and when you go there, you'll see all the things I offer. Classes, courses. But more than anything, probably the thing I is I am most proud of in my life. I always say this, the thing I'm most proud of in my life besides my three sons.

My pride and joy. That's the thing I'm the most proud of. But secondly is my university. I have a university, it's called University of Vedic Astrology. So that's the website, universityofbedicastrology.com it's all online, it's all self paced, it's got six semesters and I have students from all over the world, every single continent, around the world. I have students, we meet every week live and there's 40 recorded videos that you watch. All 40 and after each video you have a test. But on top of that you get a live tutor. So someone that's already graduated from the university will grade your test and answer questions. Plus we meet every week. You know, this is a very complicated and long involved.

Science and study. So you really need a teacher and you need someone to guide you all along the way. So the university to go through all the semesters and we have the live videos that go along with it with the recorded ones. And everything that's ever been done has been recorded and you can watch it too, all the live videos. But this is the way to learn because you cannot learn this on your own by yourself. And there's a support system and a community. As a matter of fact, all my students, they all meet on us on a telegram group that's with the university as well. They work together and meet and we have research groups going all the time with the university. There's actually a big research group going on with medical astrology in my university.

So what is medical astrology?

I mean, like I said, astrology can be used for everything and even healing with, with gemstones and remedies, things like that. But medical astrology, you know, the whole chart is your body and the planets, like the sun is your heart. Oh my God.

Okay.

And.

Okay, yeah, my co host was just talking about this. He was saying that Max Spears, I don't know if you familiar with Max. He was saying that each body part was connected to a planet. And then we heal the body part, it heals the planet and vice versa. So that's what you're saying?

Yes, yes, absolutely. But the way I like to look at it, this, this will kind of make sense of how our solar system is within us. Because if you think about each planet in our solar system, it represents a different child chakra in your body, an energy center that's actually related to your glands in your system. So if you go to the root chakra, that's Saturn in our solar system. So you go from the slower moving planet to the faster moving planet. So your root chakra is, is, is Saturn. Then what's the next planet that from Saturn? Jupiter. And Jupiter rules the reproductive system. Then Mars. Mars rules the solar plexus where you, you know, anger and where the adrenal glands are. Then the sun. I'm sorry, not the sun. Venus is actually the heart, not the sun, because Venus rules love. And opening your heart, then the throat chakras ruled by Mercury. And then you get the, the sun and the moon for the crown and third eye chakras. So in other words, how those planets are placed in your chart, if they're placed in a difficult way, then that could mean that you have problems with that area of your, of your body, such as if you had an afflicted Mercury, Mercury's in a bad sign and a bad house. And with malefics, then that would mean your throat chakras messed up. You got to work on that. That's what you've got to heal. So that's how you can visualize the, the energy centers, how they're relative to our solar system. And that is your chakras. So that's one way of healing. Plus the planets can be seen in the chart in the houses as to what your, your body's all about in your health and healing and how to heal it. Yeah.

That's so crazy. That's so crazy. And I mentioned last week too.

They say that we only use 97 of our DNA and the rest is, quote, junk DNA. I mean, we use 3% and 90, 77 is supposedly drunk. And then same with the brain matter. Supposedly we don't use all of it. And the rest of it is gray or whatever. But that's what they say about the stars too, is that we've discovered maybe 5%.

That whole correlation. It's like, does that really mean the more we work within, the more we'll discover? Or is it the more we discover, the more we get? And which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

Right, as above, so below. You know, that's the saying. Yeah, it is. What's out there is within, and what, what's within us is without.

So what happened? Because somewhere, I don't know, one of my kids brought up the fact in this conversation because they knew we were doing this. Is there, isn't there like a new planet that was just discovered or something? And how does that affect, like, do you know anything about a new planet or something? Or a new. A new.

Yeah. No, I don't know. I know there's always new planets being discovered, let me put it that way. And even an asteroid or a comet that comes into our solar system will affect us. Everything is effective. But in Vedic astrology, they look at the planets that are visible to the naked eye as the planets that are going to affect your life physically, the ones that we can't see with the naked. I deal with the collective unconscious, which deals with humanity and everyone. Therefore, the three outer planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, are the planets that are going to deal with what's going on with the collective unconscious of the world, so affecting all the people in humanity and what's actually happening, predictive with the trends that are going to be occurring in the future as well as you can look at them from the past, how they affected the world. But that's how we look at it. Therefore, if you're looking at outer planets that you can't see with the naked eye, this will, this will affect humanity more on the mass scale and not as much on the personal scale as the personal planets that we can see. Does that make sense?

Yeah. Yeah. And so it really wouldn't. It would just be. It wouldn't change the structure of what was already Set up as far as like teaching or learning or.

Right. But can affect the trends and what's going to be happening. And you know, it's, it's thought that comets, you know, like Haley's comment and all of that, that they represent messages and signs of what's to come.

Wow. Do we have anything coming up like that? I don't even know. I have to.

Yeah. I haven't heard of any comments, you know, always there's, there's something really truly. But the ones that really come into our solar system, I haven't heard of any that, that are due to happen anytime soon. I know some just passed through before.

But yeah, we definitely know everything because of the Schumann resonance. And you know, if the planet does have some sort of solar flash or comet or whatever, whatever, you can see how the planet will change in its own frequency, which affects every living thing on the planet, you know, including electronics and everything. Because we're all electric and we see whenever there's like a white out or a blackout, they can't even measure.

Yeah. The solar flares, you know, and I found the solar flares to relate to some of the aspects, cycles of some of the planets. It's fascinating to see that. Yeah.

Interesting.

Okay, well.

And you mentioned a book real quick, but I didn't get to write it down. Or do you have it to show?

The newest book I'm quite proud of. It's called Astrologer Secrets. My best tools and techniques. I, I come up with all the things I discovered through all the 40 years of chart readings that I found were amazingly accurate. And you can apply them to your own chart. It's. Yeah, it's really amazing. And some of likes athletes. What makes an athlete in a chart? What. Which makes people, of course, very wealthy in the chart. People want to know. And those are the things that through all my 40 years of experience I've discovered. Yes. So.

Well, we actually have a little bit of time. I don't know if you could go into this, but I know there's houses, right? What can you explain what the houses are and why is some things a circle and other things are square? Like what's the difference between those two things?

Okay, well, the western chart is done in a, in a circle. The western tropical chart. But you know what, it doesn't even matter. It's just these are just formats, they read identically the same. So there's 12 houses and the houses are the areas of our life. And the 12 houses are determined. What signs are on the houses is determined by what time you're born, what time you're born. Sets up the whole chart as to what sign is rising on the eastern horizon at your time of birth. If it's Scorpio, then that's going to be your first house. Sets up your whole chart according to the signs. And therefore, if you know what signs are in each houses on your day and place of birth, wherever the planets are, like if your ascendant is Scorpio and you find out on your day and time and year of birth, Jupiter was in Scorpio, then it's going to be in your first house. So the planets will fall in the different houses and they will activate those houses according to what area of life that those houses represent. In every area of your life will be represented by a certain house, such as the seventh house is marriage. The fifth house is children. The tenth house is your career. The third house is brothers and sisters. Every single person in every area of your life will be consumed with.

A planet being in one of the houses. And then what we do is we look at where the planets are moving in the sky right now, and we plug those into your chart. And the houses that they go through will tell you what you're going to be experiencing, such as wherever Jupiter is transiting. Jupiter will stay in a sign for one year, but the sign that it's in it will influence the that house. Such as if Jupiter's transiting in your second house, that's a house of money, you're going to come into more money that year. If Jupiter's in your third house, it's the house of siblings, but also travel, you'll know that you're going to be traveling. It's really kind of that simple. Yeah. And in Vedic astrology, because it's, you know, from India, we use a square chart. And I've just got. Gotten more familiar and comfortable with the square chart. And even to make things more complicated, there's a North Indian style chart. In a South Indian style chart, they read exactly the same. It just depends on if your teacher came from the north or the south. And I was taught by Indians from South India, so I use the South Indian style chart. But they all read the same. Okay.

Yeah, that's really interesting. So the first house is us.

Mm.

My own personal. The second house, you said is what?

Well, I'll just give you just briefly. The second house is. Is your money and your family. The third house is siblings, your communications and travel. The fourth house is your home, your. Your mother, your security. The fifth house Children, creativity. Children are something we create, but it's creativity and it's intelligence.

The sixth house is your health and your work matters. And pets. See, so you want to know about pets. This. The seventh house is your marriage partner or business partners. Your eighth house is the house of change, life and death. It's a house that can deal with death and transformation. The ninth house is our spirituality, long distance travel, higher education, and the Father. Different than Western. We use the ninth house with the Father, not the tenth. The tenth house is your career, your profession, your purpose. The eleventh house is your groups, friends and organizations that you're involved in. And the 12th house is endings. Whereas the first house is beginnings. The 12th house is endings. And it's also a very spiritual house and deals with things behind the scenes. I always say the 12th house is. Wait. We escape this world with it rules, hospitals, prisons, ashrams, foreign travel. But it also deals with sleep and leaving this world. So those are all ways we escape the world. Wow. Literally death.

Yeah. Interesting. Well, how much do you have to use? Because you're very intuitive. Like, how much do you have to use? A little bit of both. Like, and we're doing a reading for someone.

Like, you know what I always tell all my students? I always say, you know, use the glyphs, the symbols for the signs, the symbols for the planets, because they activate your intuition. Those symbols do something to your intuitive powers. When I look at a chart, you know, the fifth house could be children or it could be creativity, you know, doing something, a creative project. How do you know which one is going to pertain to. You just know. It pops in your head. But you have that guidance to give you the key indicators that give you that, you know, knowingness that comes out of the chart. Does that make sense?

Yeah, yeah, that. I mean, it helps a lot. And these are all things you're going to talk about at your conference. So you're going to have a lot of different teachers.

Yeah, a lot of different teachers. Some of the. Some of the best in our field will be there. You'll. You'll.

Oh, my gosh. We'll have to catch the next one for sure. But yeah, and your books. Oh, my gosh, 11 books you've written.

11. Those are the ones that have been published. I. I used to write a book every year on what's going on in the world. I thought, you know what? After a year, it's dead. So I better, I better. What is it called? Green. Be more green where it lasts forever. Green. That's the Same. So I thought, I'm gonna write some more books that will last more than a year. But, Yes, I have 11 books. They're, like I said, they're on Amazon. But one thing I want people to know is I also have an online magazine. I am so proud of my magazine, and it's called Joni Patrice Astrology Insights. You can check it out on my website, which is GalacticCenter.org But I have, like, many people writing for the magazine. It comes out every month, and we have so many articles. It's about 100 pages of, you know, astrology, spirituality, and anything to do with growth and healing, those kind of subjects, but mainly astrology. But it's only $9.99. I think that is such a bargain for what you get out of this magazine. Plus, we're always looking for new authors. So I want to know possibly if you want to help us out with writing some articles in my magazine. So I've got my magazine, and when people do go to my website, they can sign up for my free newsletter. And I. And what comes to you from that is every week, my predictions. My written predictions for every week. And I even have an app. App. It's.

That's what I was going to say next. I just wrote it down. I love your app.

Thank you. It's Joni Patrice Daily Astrology. So I've got all these things. I'm busy. I love what I do. I am probably one of the most fortunate people in the world because I love my life. I love what I do. I help people all day long to empower them, to be the best they can be through their horoscope, in their chart. That's what I love. Yes.

And you have a great support team, too. I love all your people and they, you know, just such a great group of people and your husband and all your dogs and everything. I just like. I love it. So I really encourage you guys who are watching, if this is something you've been, like, kind of biting at the bit, like, do not be afraid, jump in, get some of this stuff. Just check out her channel, go to her website. She's a real person. She's a really loving, kind person. And he has so much insight. And again, it was a really big lifeline. And I don't like to watch a lot of different people. People are always, like, sending me links to this podcast and that podcast and this and that. And I try to keep a clear channel and not have a lot of things going on where I heard this guy or that guy. Or this. But I will, like listen to my inner. And then sometimes go and see. What are you saying? Because I just got this. Does this confirm, like to look for like a. A confirmation? And I just started doing that like this week, actually, because I was like, I got this stuff in December and then your video popped up about March. And I'm like, well, I talked about March. What is she saying about March? And sure enough, we were kind of in sync, which was very. It was cool to do that.

Yeah. March and October. October is another month of that. Things are big. Things are going to be happening. So. Yeah. Do you have that information about October?

I don't, but I would love to know what you think about the election coming up for 2024. Do you have anything on that?

You know, I don't know who's running. And I would love to see Desantis's chart, which we don't know. His birth time is my September 14th. Wow. Well, I don't know his time.

We gotta find out. We gotta find out.

That would be interesting because I want to have everyone's chart that's running, then I can make a valid assessment. But I say this. I think 2024 is going. Is going to really be an amazing break through and things will be different in a better way. That's what I really believe.

So definitely need a respite. I mean, I mean, God.

It's definitely.

Been a growing time. You know, it's a. It's a forced growing time.

But that's why we're here. We're here to grow. And you know, when things get difficult and turbulent, that's where the most growth occurs. So it's a blessing in disguise.

Yes. Yes, for sure. Well, I really, really appreciate you being here. Definitely. I cannot. I was literally counting the days and until we could have this, this meeting. Well, any final words for like new people or people thinking about getting into this or just any words of encouragement about what's coming up or anything, Anything final. You. You have 10 minutes. Five. 10 minutes here.

Yeah, I'm glad because I look at. I look at astrology. Astrology should be used by everyone. It should be mainstream because what it actually does. Is that what I said before. You can see all of who you've been and who you are, but most of all, what you need to focus in on. Because, you know, some people don't even know what they're supposed to be doing with their life. Life. Astrology gives you where your gifts are, where your goals are, and what your purpose is. And Another thing is it gives you timing of things when things are supposed to evolve and develop. Because, you know, some of us, even when we're in our worst times in our life, when we're suffering and we feel like, oh my God, when is this going to be over? Astrology can give you that answer because I don't know how many people that call me, and most people do call me for a reading when their lives are not easy, when they're in a very difficult, dark place in their life. And the fact that I can say, hang on, it'll be over with next May, the end of May, there'll be light at the end of this tunnel. This is where you're going to feel better. And that gives people so much hope and they can hang on and get through it. And, and yes, it gets better at that time. Remember, this is nothing but cycles and where we're supposed to learn. But isn't it a wonderful thing to know what your goals are, your gifts are? Because I love to empower people and I say, look, this is who you are, this is what this is about. And here is what you should be doing because you came here to with this purpose, this divine purpose, and you're to do this with your life. And people walk away with a sense of empowerment. We're all here. And that's what astrology should be used for, not to beat people up and tell them where they're bad or what's wrong. You need to tell them where their gifts are, where you can empower and give them inspiration to live the best life that they've come here to live and heal. More than anything, it's all about healing. We've all come here to heal our lives. And this deals with past karmas, this deals with relationships. And the way to healing is always through acceptance and love. And through the chart, you can see it so clearly and it makes sense. You know what's so interesting? There's three houses in the, in the horoscope that are called the movie moksha houses. And moksha means spiritual liberation from this world. And what I discovered was These are houses 4, 8 and 12. And these houses are relative to the water signs, which are Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. So when you realize that ultimate moksha, liberation from this world, healing will come through the emotional body and the so much sense that in order to heal, you must feel. And astrology really taught me that to heal our issues, and that always goes with relationships. So we're here to heal our relationships and come to the Realization of who we really are, which is what I said before, the divinity of the divine, love, God, all of that. But that's what moksha is. Liberation from this world. When we get it and we heal our emotional bodies, there is no sickness anymore. There is no more disease. And this is. We will transcend this world to be one. That's how I see this. But the horoscope is such a beautiful tool, as you call it, to heal and find your purpose and in your destiny. Basically, we all want that.

Yes. And as a naturopath, I teach and I've studied 90, 86% of all physical issues are actually emotional.

Exactly.

You said if we were dealing with the emotions. Water, whatever. I also found out that people who don't want to feel will not drink water. They're usually very dehydrated. Isn't that something?

It's.

It's something I see across the board is if they don't want to feel pain, they don't drink. Drink water. If they're having a special issue or whatever. It's like my water right now. It's like, so go through it. I encourage people, drink your water. Go through it. You know, the only way out is in. You know, you got to go right through. I got a couple quotes, too, that I wanted to just put out there because I thought this was so fascinating. Einstein actually said, astrology is. Is a science in itself and contains an illuminating body of knowledge. It's taught me many things, and I'm greatly indebted to it. There's that. And then J.P. morgan. I know you know, this one basically said, millionaires don't use astrology, but billionaires do.

You know? You know why he said that, too?

I gotta know why. What do you know?

His astrologer, Evangeline Adams, told him not to get on the Titanic, and he listened to.

Are you serious?

Yes.

That is so crazy.

That's a fact. Yeah.

Well, I can tell you personally, and I don't know if I should. I'm not going to say who it is, but I will tell you that a very special person in my life.

That you have done a reading for, was very weary about it, and she's in a lot of transition and different things going on and has confided in, like, some, what she called lofty ideas of what she would do with her life. And she even felt, like, guilty, like, why would I think that I could even do this and that kind of stuff? When she had a reading with you and you basically told her, this is what you're going to be doing, and it's going to be three times bigger by so and so. Which she's pretty big as it is, not big as physically, but I mean, her influence it, like, it changed everything for her because it gave her permission.

Yes.

To be who she was born to be without feeling guilty or like, egoy about, like, oh, you know, like, I. I shouldn't do this. This is just me. I made this up in my head. And. And you confirmed, like, no, this is your why you were on the planet. And it's completely shifted her to be able to have this, like, strength and courage to just really be authentic and exactly who she was born to be. And that, to me, was such a testimony of seeing someone go from, like, nervous, scared, not really sure to absolute secure sure. Like, this is my duty. This is my job. This is my existence. And. And this is what you do for people all day. You know, not just individually, but yeah.

It'S so much fun. I can't even tell you. I have so much fun doing what I do. And I love it because everyone is so excited when they finish a reading. They're empowered. And sometimes my husband, he hears me in my office laughing, and he says, that's not work. What are you doing?

But it's just, I enjoy people and love people, and it's so much fun to see their lives open up and change and realize who they really are and what they're here to do. It's. It's. It's a blast. I love what I do, and I love to empower other people to. To do what I do as well, because then they get to have the joys of empowering and helping people as you do. You know, you love to help people.

And I do love to help people, and you've given me permission to. You know, when I saw my own chart, I was like, no wonder. Oh, my God. That's truly how I feel, you know, And I think. I think even, like, small domestic animals were in my chart of, like, part of being a Virgo thing or something or. I don't. I don't remember what I saw. I was just like, that's in there. Oh, my gosh. That's literally part of my life, you know, but it makes sense. And if any of you are interested, I'm telling you, don't walk, run, like, get on the ground computer. Check out her website. Check out all her great tools, all her resources. I mean, I have her app. I look at it. I don't look at it every day, but I Definitely look at it a few times a week because every day.

Gives you a prediction for every day I forget to look at it and I look at it and go, oh my God, I wrote that.

It's all in your videos too. So I really encourage people, get on her website, get on her channel and, and start following because you're going to learn a lot. If you guys are interested in learning or just knowing more about yourself. We're supposed to know thyself. And this is when we know ourselves. We are in, in a better position to actually be the authentic true people that we are born to be here and, and to do our thing. And everyone's so different and we're all born at a certain time with, with that, you know, stamp of the ether of the planets and the sun and the moon and time and the place and, and that is imprinted forever and it shifts with everything that's going on. There is literally a science and you talk to quantum science, quantum science, physics people, they'll tell you you can tell different planets actually physically affect the planet.

It.

So it's not some wooey crazy stuff out there. This is actual science. And I'm a geek when it comes to science. So this has been fun for me and I just really encourage you guys to get out there and check it out and yeah. Thank you for being with us.

Thank you. Now it was so such a pleasure to have this conversation.

It's been fun and I will definitely take you up. I'll help with you anything I can with the magic magazine or whatever. Just reach out to me and I'm there for you and I appreciate you.

Good.

Awesome. All right, guys, well, we will carry on next week, Thursday at noon. And again, do not forget to like to share. I'm sure somebody would love to have this information if you could get it out to them. So maybe someone needs a reading. Maybe someone is in a funk and they're like, what is going on with my life? Maybe that's you, you know, and get out there. And this is a way to maybe unravel some of the stuff and to kind of see through the forest and get some clarity on direction and things that are going on with you. And that's my, my heart. And my goal is just to see people be the best version of themselves. Because I, I don't want to do what you guys do and you may not want to do what I do, but we all have our different parts and each piece works so perfectly together. And that's what's so cool about the diversity of this universe and love you guys so much. See you next week. Thank you, Ms. Joni. I'm sure we will be in touch. And have a good afternoon. Thanks a lot.

Alrighty.