Who Was REALLY Behind Epstein’s Fall? Astrological Clues

Astrologer Joni Patry uses Vedic and Western astrology to argue Jeffrey Epstein's 2019 death was murder, not suicide, pointing to Neptune transits and Saturn aspects as evidence of concealment. She then examines current planetary movements in Donald Trump's chart that she says could bring scandal or exposure.
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August 9, 2019.
July 18, 2025.
Approximately 6°55' (close to 7°).
Between October 18 and December 5, 2025 (with a return/crossing noted by June 1, 2026).
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Hi, I'm Joni Petrie and welcome to my YouTube channel. Well, today I want to talk about something that's in the news that has us all very curious about what's really going on with this. And once again, we are talking about Jeffrey Epstein. And Jeffrey Epstein, we all know he was, you know, doing sex trafficking with young girls and he had an island and he was doing just horrendous things.
But what's coming up now that is really in the news is who was involved in this, especially.
How much involvement did Donald Trump have in this? Because there's been some really suspicious things and suspicious, in my opinion, behavior.
With Trump because he certainly.
Put an end to Pam Bondi talking about the paper she had. Who is on that list? Now, one thing that we do know is there's a list, but it doesn't necessarily mean that these people were involved in any of the disgusting things that went on with the young girls. Okay, so underage girls, we, we don't, you know, just because they're on the list probably means that they went to parties or they flew on his airplane, but it's not necessarily that they were totally involved in any of the illicit bad things going on on the island. And let me give you a little taste of some of the people that are on this list. Now, they might be just the people that went to his parties, but, but here is a list. Now, some of them are implicated in bad doings, but to name a few, here is, of course we know Bill Clinton and I forgot how many times Trump was on his plane, but it was quite a few.
British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
Former Israeli Prime Minister.
Idak Barak.
Mick Jagger, Bill Gates. Of course we know Prince Andrew, he was really involved. Michael Jackson probably attended the parties. Leonardo DiCaprio, Stephen Hawkins and David Copperfield. These are just a few. But.
I mean, he had some wild parties. They were probably something to be seen. Probably the who's who in the world. I mean, yeah, a lot of people attended these, so. But here's what's up right now. Okay, hold on a second. Got to put my little two cents in here. And I want you guys to realize if you sign up for my free newsletter, you will be in the know of everything I'm doing as well as get all of my predictions delivered to your email address every week, free. Go to Galactic Center.org while you're there, check out my spiritual group, My Patreon. That's on galactic center.org you can read all about our spiritual community. It's a club we meet every week live. And don't forget my galactic planner. My galactic planner is such a great tool for you being able to be guided by the stars every day using your own personal chart. And it will be put into your calendar, on your phone or your computer, so that you can be guided by the stars every day. Know what days are good for? Events. All events. And last but not least, I do have my university starting up again August 6th. So you're going to want to be part of that if you want to learn Vedic astrology. Become my student. Begin with us with semester one, August 6th. So let me continue on with this. And we're going to be looking at charts to see what we can see in terms of what they're telling us. So here is how the story goes. Currently.
They had something like six hours. Now we all know that Jeffrey Epstein was found. He was. He supposedly hung himself in jail. And the circumstances around this were very suspicious. And that is that there was a little point in time where the cameras weren't connected. This was very short. I heard it was only one minute. But you know, they can manipulate with this. But a lot of people just watch the tapes and so said that no one went to or from his cell for six hours. But there's other things that could be relative. Like maybe they were already in there. But during. But the guards that were supposed to be watching him because he was on suicide watch fell asleep. Both of them, really both of them fell asleep at the same time when this happened? When Epstein died, when he.
Supposedly had the suicide, or did. Did someone else kill him? And we're going to look at the charts because I have some really incredible information here. I think. I think I know what happened. But hey, I'll explain. It does involve Neptune. And anyone that knows what I. What I know about Neptune, you never know. Neptune is the planet of not seeing things clearly. And this could be. We'll never know with Neptune. But I'm going to give you all of what I'm seeing from the chart so you can make your opinion. Please don't make an opinion just because you don't like someone. You gotta look at the planets, what do they mean so that you can come up with the truth, not just an opinion where you can validate what you want to believe. Okay? That's the big difference. And that's what we have to do when we look at politicians charts. Because everyone's got such strong beliefs about certain people that even with the facts, they're going to believe what they want to believe. Right. So we're going to see what, what we can see now.
Going to what's just happened, which I think makes me very suspicious of Donald Trump is Pam Bondi and she's the Attorney General. And Dan.
Bungino just had it out in a big fight because Dan Bongino, he is the Deputy Director of the FBI.
Very interesting. Pam said.
A while ago she had all of the, the papers.
On Jeffrey Epstein and she was going to reveal the list.
It's taken a while and all of a sudden she's not revealing the list. And while on television when she said something about the list, Donald Trump jumps in and says, why are we talking about this guy right now, this gross person.
Criminal? Why are we still talking about him when we have all these things going on in the world? Why did he put a sudden stop to that? That was very suspicious, like showing guilt about something. That's how I read that. But that's just from, I'm sure everyone. Well, it's true. You gotta admit that was weird. So what's going on? Because Dan Bongino, he was under the assumption that someone murdered Epstein because Epstein has this list of people that he can blackmail to get himself out of jail. Now when we look at his chart, I'm going to show you a few things about him and even Donald Trump.
And.
Here'S another thing. This is a fact. Epstein and Trump.
Were buddies back in the day. Back in the day when Trump was, you know, owned everything in New York and you know, was having his heyday. They were, they were knock around buddies and went to parties together and you know, did all sorts of things with beautiful women, parties. It was a crazy time in the 80s. And yeah, they were friends, there's no doubt about this. So Trump wants to put to sleep anything to do with his past dealing with that. Now does this really have an effect on him in terms of running the country right now.
A lot of people.
Will definitely say yes because they don't want somebody running the country that has a background like this. They want somebody that's moral, that's just, that's good. But let me tell you something, guys, very few presidents are probably. Jimmy Carter was the only one, one that didn't have skeletons in his closet. And let me say this, he wasn't a very good president, but he was a nice man.
So, but that's, that's still, I shouldn't put that out there because that is an opinion. But I was around when he was president and he didn't get a whole lot done that's what I will say. But, but here is the other aspect of this.
So.
Does this really affect Trump's ability to lead the country?
And some people say yes, some people say no. We will see where this is going in terms of that. But let me show you the charts of Jeffrey Epstein and on the day that he died, because I think this speaks volumes about what happened. So first of all, let's put up now, we don't have a time for Jeffrey Epstein, but I will say this, we know where his moon is, so we make the moon the ascendant. And really from what you're going to see, we don't even need his time of birth. So putting up his, his planets here.
I want you to take note, his moon is in Pisces, interestingly enough, Saturn is in Pisces right now. Now I know he's, he's dead and he's gone, but you know, I believe charts of people live on after their death and it just goes to when they come out and they're noticed in again in the world. It's like, are people going to be talking about them? It kind of shows up in their birth chart even though they're not here anymore. But looking at where his Venus and Mars sit in the 12th house from the moon, the 12th house is secrets. The 12th house is.
A house of difficulty, secrets, the past and losses. Well, we know he, he had a lot of money and I sometimes wonder how, but he did.
That's probably another whole can of worms that we need to open up. But he's got Mars and Venus almost exactly conjunct Mars at 22 degrees and Venus at 2023 degrees of Aquarius.
And I want you to see where the planets were on the day that he died. Now another thing I need to mention to you, the 12th house is the house of prison. Isn't that interesting? It's places of confinement. Also it deals with endings.
Yes, the 12th house is endings. So let's put up the chart for the transits on the day that he died. So putting up this chart, it was August 9, 2019, and they said there was like a six hour segment. I was going to try to find out exactly when he died, but we don't know because we have like six hours where they put him in his cell. It was around 10:40pm and then by 6am they found him dead. So I can't figure out the exact time for his death, but within. But we know where all the planets were on that day.
And the most important planet that blows My mind is probably Neptune. Neptune sits at 23 degrees of Aquarius that entire day. It sits exactly on his Mars.
And one degree off his Venus. So it is essentially on his Mars. Venus in the 12th House of Pro prisons and endings. Now, remember what I say about Neptune. Neptune means you can't see it.
Everyone's saying he committed suicide. Let me show you something. In Epstein's chart, he has the sun in Capricorn conjunct Rahu.
Anyone that has sun conjunct Rahu has an extraordinarily strong ego.
You know, it's interesting, and I'll show you his chart, too. But Donald Trump has this, too. So what does that mean? Well, it means somebody that is a.
I'm gonna say it, an egomaniac. They're full of themselves. They think they're more powerful than most people. With sun conjunct Rahu. And this is Jeffrey Epstein, and this is Donald Trump put those two together in their heyday. No telling what they did going on with all those parties back, back in the day. But this is before.
Way before all of the transactions were happening at Epstein's. I'm talking about in the 80s, the 90s, and yeah, going on that they were still hanging around each other before Trump got serious with politics.
But here is my point with the Rahu son. When somebody has this kind of an ego.
They don't kill themselves.
We're talking about narcissists. Narcissists would never kill themselves because somehow a narcissist believes it's everyone else's fault and they're going to do whatever they want to do to get whatever they want. And a narcissist would never kill themselves, trust me. Because.
They'Re too in love with themselves. That's why. That says it all right there. I can't imagine Jeffrey Epstein committing suicide, especially when he had a list to black blackmail everyone to get himself out of prison.
So Neptune on Mars and Venus represents. We don't see the truth, we don't see the cameras. Neptune actually rules cameras. So isn't it funny that there was a short time, a minute that the cameras were not operating? I forgot they said something when it changes over. But even though it was only a minute, they can adjust that. Trust me, they can adjust whatever they want because. Let me show you another transiting planet that tells me something suspicious was up.
Notice where Saturn in K2 are. On the day he died. Saturn sits there at 20 degrees, which with its full third aspect, it is fully aspecting the Mars and Venus within a 3 degree orb. But better yet, look where K2 is. Ketu is conjunct Saturn. And Ketu sits at 23 degrees on that day that he died.
Therefore, that Saturn, Ketu conjunction with Saturn being affected by Ketu is throwing its energy, both of those onto the Venus Mars.
That is incredible.
And not only that, Rahu.
Get this. Rahu of course was in Gemini, 23 degrees. And therefore it was aspecting exactly the Venus, Mars.
Rahu and Ketu throw trinal aspects. And just trust me that Rahu is aspecting the Venus Mars exactly on that day. Rahu is extremes. Now let me show you something else.
Venus which is being aspected and exactly by Neptune, Rahu is casting its exact trinal aspect to it.
23 degrees, are you kidding me? Neptune's 23 degrees. Rahu and Ketu are 23 degrees.
And.
With this aspect, Neptune means it's in what you think. And everyone says he killed himself. And Rahu means a really extreme event. And I think personally I still am under the assumption he was murdered because he had too much information on people. Come on, they're going to do anything to adjust cameras.
And I still can't understand how both the guards were asleep at the same time during this time when it was their job to watch him, to prevent him from committing suicide.
If you'll notice in Jeffrey Epstein's chart as well, uranus sits at 22 degrees of Gemini where Rahu was a sudden, unexpected event. This does not deal with him taking his own life in terms of his emotional adjustment. It is.
A sudden, unexpected event is happening to him. That is not somebody just suddenly deciding to kill themselves.
But here is another thing to notice about this. Venus is in the 12th House House, but it rules the 8th House of Death. Neptune is on it. The death is not what, you know, what is obvious because Neptune always conceals and hides things and makes things where we can't see the truth. And I think that is due to some outside sources manipulating this.
So.
I think more than anything that we should be looking at Donald Trump's chart in terms of the current affairs that are happening with him, because this is affecting him now, not then. So now I want to put up Donald Trump's chart in terms of what's going on in his chart and what's going on today, because the death chart of Epstein was more about Epstein's death and what was going on. But now we have to look at the future for Trump in terms of is there any scandals about to appear in his chart and, and in his life. So putting up Donald Trump's chart, I want you to pay close attention to his ascendant degree, which sits basically at 6 degrees, 55 minutes, which is definitely closer to 7 degrees. What do we have at 7 degrees right now? Saturn and Neptune, they sit in Pisces at 7 degrees. And what that is telling me that they are in an exact quincunx. One of the more difficult aspects to be had a 6, 8 relationship with his ascendant. And here's the most important part of all. They are in his eighth house. The eighth house is the house of secrets and scandals. So I think something's about to blow up here. And a lot is going to be happening in this next year concerning Epstein. And even when I went back back and I've tried to look at what's going on in terms of Epstein, well, you know, right now Rahu and ketu are around 24 degrees.
Of Aquarius and Leo.
So guess what?
Rahu, being around 24 degrees of Leo, sits right on Epstein's. Well.
Rahu sits. Ketu right now is 24 Leo. Rahu is 24. Aquarius.
Sits right on Epstein's. Venus, Mars.
As I said, a chart still is relevant even when someone's gone.
And I think this means the exposure is all coming out now. Rahu in his 12th house on his natal Venus and Mars, the two planets that Neptune triggered when he died.
Rahu is going to bring out all of this. Now, when I think about that, you know, this is like, really important. And it means the truth will probably come out.
Even though somehow that list.
Got lost.
Isn't that interesting how this happens with politicians in the world? It's crazy. All the things that have been going on in terms of scandals and the truth coming out about everyone.
Now, do I think that this means that Trump will be taken out of the presidency? No, I don't. But I do think that is definitely a major stain on him. And we all knew that he had a dark past with the money and women and everything that happened before.
It's not going to take him out, but, boy, are they going to try. And the other thing is, I think by the time Jim, Jupiter comes into cancer, which it will between October 18th and December 5th of this year, 2025, it will be sitting on his Saturn, which will.
Help him tremendously. His Saturn sits in the 12th house, which are secrets. Jupiter going through his 12th. It will back, back out of the. Out of his 12th house, though. Jupiter, it's going to station at zero degrees of cancer on his Saturn, but it will come back and cross over that Saturn by June 1st of 2026. And I think they will leave this alone by then. But this is a big scandalous affair. Someone went in and killed him because of what he could reveal.
And who knows who did it. I think that's a big secret.
Was a conspiracy of a group of people. I mean to consider the Prince of England to consider.
You know, Clinton, to consider Trump consider. I mean all these politicians.
Bill Gates, people with massive amounts of money.
That's probably the bigger question who did it rather than if it happened.
So I'll leave that hanging there. But I thought you guys might want to get my look at looking at what we could by looking at Epstein's chart.
Trump's chart, since this is they act like this is going to go away. It's not as well as the day that Epstein was murdered, put it that way. Instead of the day that he committed suicide and or.
What'S going on today that's bringing this all up and out into the open again. And.
Karma'S karma. Nobody gets away with anything. You may think they do because you know sometimes when people do bad things, you wish that karma would come back right away. It doesn't.
But it never goes away. Don't you worry. Whatever just do's people deserve it comes to them, whether in this life or the next.
We'll just leave it up to.
The divine that makes everything happen at the proper time for for a divine reason. Everything happens for a reason and everything happens in due time when it's supposed to. So with that, I hope you've enjoyed this analysis and if you would like more information on me, you can go to my website, which is Galactic Center.org Sign up for my free newsletter, join my Patreon.
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