#198 struggling to hover at 10.3 hours
22 Nov 2025 · 11 min
Kenny Keller coaches Colin, who has 10.3 hours in an R22 and can't hold a hover steady. The main culprits: overcontrolling and staring too close to the aircraft. Rest your arm on your leg, grip the cyclic gently, and practice three times a week.
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Hey, day 198. Trying to share the sunset with Sunset. Sunset with you, drinking water. That's it. It's coffee with Kenny. But I've already had my coffee and I decided to do a sunset video today. Normally do these in the morning, but hey, I do this every night. Try to get out every night I can. Weather's decent enough to do pictures at sunset. Post those on Facebook. People, people, people dig that stuff. This is my goal. This is my summertime thing. Try to get out here every night and I'm going to answer a couple of questions here from a Hogs member. He's like, good morning Kenny. Good evening, Colin. He said as this past Wednesday the 17th, I have 10.3 hours in the R22. You have probably heard this many times. The hovering is kicking my butt. Yep. And you're only at 10.3 hours, man. So it's going to get better. Don't sweat it. Can you do a more close up video on different tips on how to have a gentle grip or different ways of holding the cyclic for the cyclic for the R22? Well, I don't have an R22 available sitting in my hanger so you know, your instructor should be working with you. But I remember when that when I was training in the R22. Basically it's about getting your hand on your leg or try to rest your arm on your leg and let that cyclic come down to where you just get a nice grip on it and just kind of hold it and you'll get the feel for it. So 10 hours in, it's okay. You're struggling. Work on getting that arm right on your leg and work with it and you're gonna find a point where you can actually rest your leg. And everybody complains about that cyclic in the R22, but it's actually nice because you can pull it down to the point no matter what size the guy you are or girl, you can just kind of pull that thing down there and you'll be able to rest your hand on there to where your arm doesn't get so tense. So that's what you need to do. And like the video I just did yesterday, get in the cockpit when you're not spending three or four hundred bucks an hour and just get in there and practice and kind of, you know, get the feel for it and it's going to work out for you. So again at 10 hours, don't sweat it. He said, I also keep moving forward or backward when trying to hover and when taxing the nose keeps ballooning up. That's because you're doing what everybody does. It's called over controlling. At 10 hours, I know you're just still trying to put all this stuff together. And so many times people are freaking out at five or 10 hours. And I know you're proud of that. 10.3 hours in your logbook. And good for you. I'm not knocking you because you're only at 10 hours. Everybody's got to start somewhere. But hour 12, hour 14, and as you move on, it's going to get better. So it is understanding. It takes getting comfortable in there, getting your arm comfortable, and it takes that light, gentle touch. And the more you practice, the better you're gonna get. Man, I'm glad I'm getting some good sun shot. Swear to God, I'm drinking, just drinking water. I'm also flying, only flying two times per week. And last night I was thinking it was a pain to fight traffic in the morning, to drive 1.5 hours to the airport to drive back for work. But that seems like it's the sacrifice I'm gonna have to make to get better. Yeah, I mean, two times a week ain't bad, but you know what's best? 3. And you're gonna have to work your own schedule. Maybe you could fly a day on the weekend, two days during the week. If two days a week is all you can do, that's fine, man. I mean, if that's what you got to do, that's what you got to do. If you can go more, it's gonna be better. I'm telling you. I've done this video 15 times in the last 10 years, and I'm a firm believer in three times a week is best. Four or five ain't bad. It'll work. Every day is too much. Once a week is not enough. Two better than one. I mean, one day a week, man, you just don't make progress at one day a week. You just don't. Sorry I had to take a look at that sunset. This is my thing, right? Love it. Do it every single night. Okay, so that's about it. Any tip would be great. Thanks. My next online lesson is going to be hover taxi. Have a safe day calling. And remember, you better be looking outside, man. That's always the problem. Not always, but so many people, you know, they're looking down at the controls or they're looking inside the instrument panel takes a quick check, eyes back, outside. And don't look at the ground in front of you. So many People find themselves staring down, looking out the left hand side. Don't do that. Your focus needs to be outside 50 to 75ft. Focusing too close to the ground, too close the aircraft never helps. It's not, not a good thing. All right, so Colin, I hope that helps. Go out there, practice in the aircraft when nobody's around, when it's not costing anything, say, hey, can I go out there and sit in there for 20 minutes and just work with it. And you're gonna find that sweet spot. Once you can learn to relax that arm and get comfortable with your arm and your wrist, it's going to make it so much easier. And again, you're 10 hours, man. Don't sweat it. Keep after it. Try to get in there three days a week if possible if you can. I'm just saying three seems to be the best progress. Four or five ain't bad. Five is almost too much. But sometimes if you're trying to bust out a rating, you got to do that. And I get it. But when it comes to really making use of your money, someone like you, Colin, where you've got a job and you've got other commitments and you can't fly full time, I think three times a week, man, three times a week is best. All right, thanks everybody for tuning in. Oh my God, this is so awesome. Absolutely love it. Tomorrow be day 199. 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I just did that seven days of things from the helicopter safety team. And those are all real basic. But I encourage you, if you haven't seen those seven videos from last week, I advise you go check them out. And I know so many people are going, ah, but that's just basic stuff. I know all that. Well, you know what? We need to relearn those things. And when somebody like the US Helicopter safety Team puts together seven recommendations, they're putting recommendations together because they're trying to reduce accidents. People fly into the clouds, they get themselves in bad weather, they make bad weather decisions, they don't divert, they don't land. There's all kinds of bad things going on. It's not normally mechanical, it's normally the pilot screwing up and it's normally the pilot making a bad decision. That's how normally the fatal accidents happen. So I'm gonna encourage you to go back and catch those videos if you haven't and do us a favor and comment on them and give them a like and get your friends in on them. Because it really is seven, seven days every day talking about one of those seven. And they're very simple and very basic. And a lot of the private pilot stuff that we learned that we just need to always keep with us, you know, what we learned from day one is really important. Alright, I'm gonna finish off. The sunset sky usually gets a little bit more red after the sun goes down. So I'm gonna sit back and enjoy that, finish my bottle of water and head in. Like, subscribe, click the bell when you subscribe and comment down below and we'll see you. Day 199.
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