Barnet Bain – Create the Life You Live

You can only suddenly allow yourself to be touched by a grace that is beyond logic and beyond reason. And and then it flowers in you as music with the product of wind through a flute it flowers. And then along with that flowering comes something called an active, caring compassion. You know, do compassion. That's something quite different. The performance of compassion as as well intended as it might be, as sincere as it may be. It's something very compassion is a non dual. It is the first gift foreign.

Welcome to the Mind Tracks podcast with breakthrough ideas to live your best life possible and how to make it happen. I'm Paul Shealy and today we will be talking with Barnett Bain. Barnett Bain is a filmmaker, author and executive coach with a long history of spiritually oriented filmmaking. His film credits include Milton's Secret, what Dreams May Come, Homeless to Harvard, the Celestine Prophecy, and the Lost and Found Family. His books include the Book of Doing and Being, Rediscovering Creativity in Life, Love and Work, and the Third Story, Awakening the Love that Transforms. Barnett coaches, business leaders and private CL or committed to expanding awareness.

Barnett, so good to be with you, my friend. Thanks for joining this podcast.

What a pleasure. It's nice to see you and hello to all our listeners.

Yes, well, you know, you had me on your podcast and now turnabout is fair play, right? What they say well, here's the here's the thing that I have always loved about you. Whenever we get together, it's an emergent moment. Kind of like, you know, a good unfolding improv theater and your creative to the max. I love that about you. And you've written a bunch about creativity. I like to say your book of.

Doing, the book of doing, the book of doing and being.

Doing and being. So so what I I've often talked about our work out in the world is our doing and our interior work is our being. You absolutely dialed that in with your book. I really loved it. Now there are a couple of questions I like to ask about creativity in general and we'll try to get into some nitty gritty of how anyone can up their game and creativity. Talk to me about this, a statement that you wrote. Regardless of your age, education or professional experience, you will be called on to your real work. That call will never cease. You bring creativity to a point of using it to follow our true call. Talk to me about the true call as you see it.

So thank you for asking that particular question because this is a question that is that is front of mind, top of mind for me all day, every day it's not that I have to keep it there and I have to fight. It's. It's really not like that at all. But some time ago.

It occurred to me that not only is every act a creative act, every act is a creative act. Even the act of saying I have no creative impulse whatsoever is a highly creative act. It's not a productive act, but it is, does involve volition and it is a commitment to a worldview. And unfortunately our life falls in behind where we focus.

Yeah. It is in fact a way of creating that experience at that moment. Right.

So the, the key there is creativity and then there's artfulness. And why I say this is top of mind for me is because I, at this point in my life, I am more focused on artful living, making of my life a work of art where a thing of beauty than I am committed to things like purpose. And which I, I believe are developmental, tied very much to developmental psychology. A need to have a purpose driven life creates a certain kind of order which is very much antithetical to making a friend of uncertainty. You're either on purpose or you're in love. But no lover has ever been on purpose.

Usually. Usually disintegrates or deteriorates into agendas. But so to your question, which I forgotten.

To your question.

When one is.

The real work of.

One'S life, when one is. Is. Begins to.

Let in that only creativity exists, there's nothing else going on. There is only creative acts, as I said, that is very different than productive acts. There's only creation going on.

What, when, when, when. When I sat with that for a while, what bubbled up behind it eventually.

Is.

What'S for.

Now.

What end? Are you saying? To what end or what end?

What, okay, what end? For. For what purpose? Which is a feedback loop. Once I get into the feedback loop.

It occurs to me, oh, I am now in a. On a psychological hamster wheel.

I like it. Yeah.

What is, what is there beyond that? What is there that can. That supersedes that, that holds, that holds that galaxy, that holds that little solar system round and round and round and round. Ah, yep, that's the real one.

Okay, so.

Becoming intimate, becoming open.

Becoming aware of my psychological patterns, if then the cause, effect, reality of a certain kind of psychological conditioning, which is a closed loop of creation and recreation, more accurately rearranging the furniture.

Sometimes in, in pursuit of great enterprises. This is not in any way a judgment, a value judgment, not about that.

So there is wonder and, and gifts in that. And.

There is also the desire to foster and cultivate and give and receive from a relationship beyond logic and reason, without losing logic and reason. I don't want to become.

I'm. I'm with you on that.

So that is great work.

A couple of things, right?

It.

That is living an artistic life. So just like doing is out in the world and being is its polarity. Like a breath you exhale out into the world, you inhale to recover. Exhaling is wonderful, but it's not sustainable.

That's right.

Inhaling is delightful, but it's not sustainable. So you could. Could we place art.

And purpose on the same infinity symbol?

So your art is what you do in the creative act in the world. But it cannot live, cannot be without a deeper purpose that lifts it.

I haven't had. I've never heard it put that way. And it's delightful. So I'm. I'm buzzing at it.

Tingly.

I'm tingly, which is the first sign. To me, it's the first sign. So.

Absolutely there is. Art is a Doing is an expressive act. Act.

The inhale.

That is not art. That is not an act of will. You're. You know, you don't need to participate in that. There are forces that are breathing you.

Thank you.

That is an act of. That is an act of, at best, of wonder and willingness. Very different energies. Will and willingness, very different. And so.

The. Where they come together.

I believe where they come together is again in this kind of superseding.

Relationship. Relationship with a sort of superseding being state, which in some traditions is referred to as non. Dual. I don't want to get all.

Jargony.

I get all tingly with that one. That's. That's my happy spot to that point. And I do want to hold that as a possible container for what we're.

Talking about, since it's the only container there is anyway.

Right. So there's a container that would be called the possibility of our lives. And you wrote a book called the Third Story. And I think that third story comes from that which is a third space, which is an emergent space. It's a place where there. It's logical, it's emotional, and it's more than either of those. It's a. Both and. But it's not even this or that. It's not even both and it's something else. It's a. It's something else that is, I believe, to what point we started with. That's the place where our calling shows up from. It shows up from that place.

Yes. That is the origin place.

Right. If we.

Origin mystery.

Well, my meditation teacher would often refer to this space as the place where the universe as we know it has withdrawn into itself. It's that place from which all creativity is born. It is.

It's beyond thought. It's either a great fullness, as they say in the Himalayan tradition, or a great emptiness, as they talk about in the Taoist tradition. Right. Either one works. Both work. And it's not necessarily very easy to introduce that to someone if they're living in their doing, if they're living in their attempt to be on purpose. There was a lovely story you told in doing, in being about doing a consulting job in an oil company in Canada.

And the, you know, there's the HR director. He's got his arms folded, so they've.

Had a few rough years.

Yes, exactly. So this guy is standing in the back of your classroom, metaphorically, arms folded, thing. Why the heck would an oil company out of here. Yeah, let's do something productive. Right. Why are we talking about creativity now? I had a similar experience, which is why I love the story so much. I was called into a big company here in Minneapolis. You may have heard about it, they make thermostats. But what they were doing is they were technology rich and application poor. So they needed to become more proactive, more able to bring to market some of their great ideas. I created a course for them on creative problem solving, and it took a rational problem solving approach and a creative problem solving approach and squished them all together in this neat little bundle based on neuro linguistic programming. And it was in their course catalog for years. I loved teaching these folks, and it was always a mind blow for them. You know, they. Right. And the same thing happened for this fellow in your course. Would you tell the story?

I want to go for. Go to work for you. Right.

That's a turnaround.

The same guy that said.

Who brought this, this is a waste of time now. He. He ended up quitting.

Yes.

He became a life coach.

Yes. So. So talk to me about that. You. You talk about creativity as a transformative act. It's a. It's an act of transformation. Whether we are transformed by it or we're in a transformational process for whatever is coming into the world. That's a developmental shift, if you will. It's a. It's a quantum leap.

At root. Not going to make a categoric statement like that. It's embarrassing, but we can. There's largely two states, fundamental states. One is a state of Will.

In that state we are expressive as you pointed out before with the, with the metaphor of the breath. We are. We are changing the world in some way for the better. When we attach it to psychological.

Drives, then they often become I want to demolish the world out of my stuff or I want to improve it out of my stuff. Those are drives. We have impact.

The other state is I am acting upon.

That requires a little more humility to get to the point where you realize.

I'm as a. As wind through a flute.

Horses are playing through me. I'm along for the ride and I get to collaborate co create piece of.

Clay in the potter's hands.

Yeah, I have a. I had some issue with that because what it's. It's a metaphor that only takes us so far. It suggests.

That we are inanimate stuff. We're. We. We're stuff of the stuff. So we're not inanimate stuff. We were never inanimate stuff.

There's. It was always consciousness. We can go right way down the rabbit hole now. But you know, nothing. We were not blown, you know, life into some clay shell.

Creates.

We have a legacy of treating ourselves as objects, as a culture. And I think it's.

I like that distinction.

The root of that is this kind of metaphor that is baked into the Judeo Jesse Christian culture. It's also baked by the way into the Hindu culture. The churning of the ocean of milk origin story. It's baked into the Islamic culture. The garden of Jannah. Paradise. The same weird nothing. But I have a different take on those origin stories.

That I think you will prefer.

All those stories.

Were made from clay. You know, the golem.

In all these stories they allude to an original state of oneness of all things. They all allude to it. Gardens of Eden. And then the humans either turn the ocean of milk or they drank. They ate of the fruit, the fruit of the tree of knowledge. And then what happened? They gained the capacity for abstract thought. Suddenly subject.

Object. And now I go about labeling everything in the garden. Tree, snake, woman. Look at me. Me, You. Suddenly the oneness. We go from subject ego to and object. The not me. And the oneness is shattered. And this unfortunately is the. The worldview that has.

This is. We have dropped into a pretend. I'm going to pretend that I am distinct and separate and I am a creation. The potter's clay. I'm not part of the whole thing. I've been created and now I'm going to live. I'm going to pretend that that's not just to pretend. Now I'm lost forever. I'm going to pretend and I'm going to pretend. It's not just to pretend. Now we go around the mulberry bush, long, long. And then we create time, we create space. A subject object. And now we're busy for a while.

So what is the real work? You like how I brought that back?

The real work is to put on that light.

I am one. There's one thing going on this subject object game.

It'S a role. I played that role. I'm still playing that role. I almost exclusively play that role. But there's a glimmer of me that is hanging from the chain. Pull that light on.

That is the life's work and that is the life's work of every human being on the planet.

Eventually.

Eventually we go through what I refer to as the first story, the second story. Those are psychological state. The first story, what happened to me? Born with a silver spoon, Born with a wooden spoon. Beaten, walked to school, through, you know, on a shovel, through 10ft of snow. Had it this way where you had your kids, had it so easy all that. Second story, how I got over it.

Built the business, married the man, gained the weight, lost the weight, became the president, became the popper, became the worst person in the world, became the best person in the world.

If we're very fortunate.

And open to the in breath.

We can be drawn and allowed to allow ourselves to be baked in the glory and in the grace of. When I say grace, I mean the way eagles with the way eagles fly. It comes naturally. There is something in us that comes naturally. It's not no longer I need to effort it. There's me, there's the world. It's a natural thing that is born and, and we follow it like a. Like a hound dog nose to the trail. We follow it, we follow it, we follow it, we cultivate it, we treasure it, we make it valuable, we prioritize it in our lives. Sounds like a lot of doing, right? There's no doing. It's suddenly the rest.

The rest sort of takes a different priority in one's life.

Presencing, being present and sensing. Right?

Yeah. There's tons and tons of talk now around presence and presence and presence and what do I have to do to be present? Okay, that's.

Doing to be.

Yeah. What do I have to do? Okay. Yeah, I want to do, I want to be. How do I do it? You know, and it's touching and it's poignant. That is.

To hammer you Know everything looks like a nail.

The true work.

There are more tools in the kit, my friend.

Yeah, there. I'm thinking about the Bodhisattva vow, which is, I will continue in this practice until all suffering has left humanity. And so that's why I resonate with your statement of.

Will continue on this until that day when the unification, the oneness, the enlightenment, actually occurs. It's very difficult to live inside of a mind and try to understand it. As Carl Jung said, how do we know the dragon that swallowed us right when we're inside of our doing, the only way to get to being is to do something to get there. And so the Zen coans are these torturous little ways of holding that space of mind from which something else can emerge, that third story, that third space, whatever that might be. I agree wholeheartedly with you. It's worth pursuing. And I want. I interrupt or at least derailed particular train of thought when you were mentioning the flute and the wind in the flute. So how is.

Us being that wind and the flute different than the stuff of clay being molded by some outside force?

The wind and the flute are one thing. They don't. They're not separate. They are, as Bucky used to talk about there. You know, this is something. This is a synergy which when. When Bucky Fuller introduced synergies, a mind blower. What is genius about that? Genius is that he took. He took non dual truth. And he said, well, let me just put this in a way that people can discover it and come at it this way. You know, that specialization. He said, you know, it's enough of that specializer, become a generalist. It was always about, it's one system. It's one system. The music from a flute, you know, it doesn't.

It doesn't differentiate that there was the flute and there was the wind, the ruach, the spirit.

It's one thing. I'm sitting here with a lamp on my desk, and, you know, there's the bulb and the bulb participates and there's the wire and there's the armature and there's the little neck. And any one piece of it is not diminished or less than any other piece of it, nor is it diminished in any way because together it's a lamp.

So. But when we attempt psychologically to how do I do being? How do I do the music? Well, I have a flute and then I blow through it. And now, you know, it's like I can't even try to follow instructions. How to tie your shoe?

Yes.

So you know, it's like trying to.

Point to the tip of your finger with the tip of your finger. You have to get out of the set, you have to get out of the set of all uneven numbers. How do I find a even number inside the set of all even number? You won't. You'll be looking for a while. And this is the nature.

Of what we are psychologically conditioned to.

This is the bubble in which we're psychologically conditioned to exist and to persist. And what is the true work is not to diminish it, not to pop the bubble, to transcend and include it. And what is a compassionate nature, it's birthed out of.

As distinct from sympathy or empathy. It's a birth out of a certain.

A personal, a personal.

Action. Active caring. It's an active caring that is born out of an experience of personal suffering. Because my life has been, has been almost entirely and now mostly lived inside this psycho, this binary psychological state called doing and being.

I understand the pain of that.

To live on one side and try to balance and reconcile it is difficult, right?

It can never happen. You can always suddenly, you can only suddenly allow yourself to be touched by a grace that is beyond logic and beyond reason. And, and then it flowers in you as music, the product of wind through a flute, it flowers. And then along with that flowering comes something called an active caring.

Compassion. You don't do compassion. That's something quite different. The performance of compassion as. As well intended as it might be, as sincere as it may be. It's something very. Compassion is a non dual. It is the first gift.

Gorgeous, sort of like, you know, those, what was that? Was it Kilroy with the little hands over the wall?

Those eyeballs? Yeah.

First gift of a non dual state. The first gift is comp. Passionate love. The low, the lowest hanging fruit of a non dual state. Now I can't speak to anything beyond there because I haven't consciously logged anything beyond there.

This is a good starting point. If we could all live there. That's great and interesting that the science is recognizing that the most powerful motivator of any one individual's behavior is not self castigation, not punishing themselves for failing, but compassion. Self compassion. So it's a worthy ideal, no doubt.

And I'm also your point. I, I, it thrills me that you made that distinction, that it's self compassion. Self compassion. And.

Why is it self compassion? You know, sometimes I hear, you know, I, I, you would say something and I might hear somebody saying oh no, you were so selfish. There's only the self going on there. What?

There isn't anything else going on. It's like I've got four fingers up for those of us that are listening but not viewing. And when, when I drop the, the screen over the. Below the four fingers up. Whoa. It's. They're all attached.

There's only the self going on. The true work is to.

Recalibrate and to discover and to allow and to be worked upon by aspects of the self beyond my.

Very limited senses to activate the uncommon senses, not just the five common ones.

Well, you've led me to a place that I have wanted to go with you. Having spent a lot of my professional life in that creativity and problem solving world as consultant and human development specialist, I wrote about in my book Natural Brilliance. There's a creative problem solving approach people could use. But you introduced in your book of doing and being.

The idea of calling upon muses. And now I want to set a context for this. First, you referred to the hero Heroic journey, the hero's journey, or she Rose journey. There is, in the hero's journey, there is the crossing of a threshold. And at the threshold there's a guardian that stands, saying, you shall not pass. Right. What is your favorite color? What is your name? So, but you know, the idea is that there is a guardian at the threshold that basically wants to send you home if you're not all in. And I've spent a bit of time over the last couple of years helping people recognize that these guardians are really our protector mechanisms. They're saying, hey, just remember all the ways you've screwed up up until now. You're talking about this new way of living your life just to warn you, you know, don't do this. We miss the subtext that says unless you're all in. But we just feel the fear and run away those who are willing to cross a threshold. The good news is there's always helpers on the other side. We couldn't anticipate them ahead of time, but they're always there for us. There will be a guide, there will be a helper, there will be a friend along the path that will show up exactly at the time that we need it most. Now, you brought in like I brought in these guardians, these archetypes you brought, brought into your book the archetype types of the nine Muses. And I loved it. I dug into it a bit more. I like to go to ancient Greek. I, I was at the Parthenon as a child and I, you know, it's it's still a glorious idea to me to think about a culture that recognized these divine energies that are always attendant to us. Now we're not going to go through Cleo and.

Erado and is a good one. They're all great. All the Muses are great. And I do want to say, hey, read the book, think about the Muses. I love the idea that these are energies that are around us, that are available to us, they're attendant to us as we need them and we can call on them purposefully to assist at any part along the way. But I want to finish with the idea of Calliope, which is the call to your great work. Calliope is the voice of the call, the heroic voice. Her voice rises above the clamor and signals awakening that is about to become transforming. And I like the. What we were talking about moments ago is being able to perceive the signal from the noise that when the signal is too quiet and the noise is too great. Right. We're in trouble. So we need to have the right ratio for that. And mindfulness, presencing, quieting the mind, withdrawing the senses, going to that state of being, connecting with the infinite that we are never separate from is, I believe, the place where we can hear the voice of that call. Is there, in your estimation.

A practice that one might be able to consider in the days ahead to be more attendant to the great work that is attempting to be expressed through one, as one.

Oh my goodness, a practice. There's a lot. But here's a great one. You know, one of my great pleasures is filmmaking. Yes, for a ton of reasons, which is a whole nother podcast.

But wait, did you just suggest we could have another podcast together?

Let's do it.

Yes.

Yeah, let's do it. So.

Filmmaking, we put together stories and you know, when you walk into a theater or you sit at home and you watch it on the screen, if it's well done, you're lost, you're engaged, you're drawn right into the do the drama of it, to what is going on between these characters. You have empathy, you have insight. You even fill in the spaces between the, the, the. In the silences, between the close ups. You. You fill in the emotional detail and you're completely lost. You're completely in it.

And it's on a screen.

We're not aware that it's on a screen. On a screen. It's on a screen.

Now if we can.

Somehow pull back a little bit and remember as we're watching, this is on a screen.

And I am also fully. I'm enraptured with the minutiae, the moment, day to day of my life, the emotions and the feelings and the doings. The doings, the doings. I'm not so much aware of the willings, the willingness. The willingness. And I'm processing things mostly through logic and reason. Mostly I'm taking an entire universe of experience and.

And it only exists up above my eyebrows mostly. But if I was, God forbid, hit by that truck, that.

My worst fear, right, is that my guardian is going to be distracted for one second. I can get what's hit by that truck. And I woke up and I had not one memory.

Nothing.

There would still be. I normally I would just ask the question, you know, do you think what would be left? And in the, in the interest of, of efficiency and time, I will provide the answer. The only thing that would be left is your awareness. I'm aware.

That is the screen upon which everything is projected. That is the screen to go back to the movie metaphor. All that action, the Sturman drying, all that sound and fury, it's on a screen. Every thought, every feeling, every action, every choice, every decision, every attitude, every experience that I have in every way moving through the world, awake or asleep, imagined, remembered.

It plays out in my awareness.

The awareness is the big game.

The big game. When you open to. I want to become more and more.

Relational.

With the mystery of that.

Everything else begins to take on a different flavor and has. And the grip.

Loosens up. The awareness. The awareness.

Nice.

In the polarity map.

There is the inhale, the exhale.

And there's a downward spiral to that which is. We live our lives with our song unsung. And the upward part of that spiral is the fulfillment of our purpose.

So if our great work is to be aware, aware of the purpose, aware that we are the creator, certainly the co. Creator of the world, but. But the creator of this life experience that we're having.

The big game, is to participate actively, not only in the recognition of it, but the choicefulness to make this an artful life of truth, goodness and beauty. To live.

Forward with a level of willingness and intentionality to do our great work in this universe story.

Beautiful. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So as a filmmaker, final thought here. As a filmmaker, is it fair to say, like Shakespeare did, that we are on the stage of this life? Can we be the producer, the director, the actor? Simultaneously, do we have to fragment those out and have a practice to sense, okay, how is this day going to go? What is my choice?

So we have that capacity. We absolutely have that capacity to. And it begins with a sense of knowing.

Intellectually. It's a cognitive function initially. We have a sense that, oh, I'm going to.

I'm going to do this exercise. I'm going to do this thing. I'm going to plan my day. I'm going to, I'm going to see where are my set points energetically, I'm going to discover.

I'm going to listen to this podcast.

I'm going to listen to this podcast, I'm going to write it out.

And then one, I'm going to learn the ground rules and then I'm going to learn how to attack, to tag into.

Certain traditions of whether it is working with muses or, or archetypal energies or what it's, it's end. The, the menu is endless. Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do Laws of Attraction. I'm gonna do all this stuff.

Gonna read Barnett's book. I'm going to listen to Paul Shealy's Para Liminal. Yes. So there is.

And I'm going to retrain.

Yes.

I'm going to retrain my choice making and I'm going to push my, my energetic set point up a notch.

Nice.

I'm going to push it up from, you know, impatience or I'm going to push it up from whatever it is up to well being. I may even push it up to optimism. I may even push it up to excitement. I may even push it up to hope. I may push it up to passion. Oh my God. And if I learn how to, if I learn how to stay there. Yes. The choices and the decisions that I make and what I allow myself to be open to.

Are a very, very different experience than when I, If I'm operating at the, the, the on the right side of the piano or is it the left side of the p. I don't play the piano. So.

You can, we can do that. We can absolutely do that. And that is important.

Simultaneous with that, we begin to become aware that these strategies. I learned how to drive. I learned how to drive my psychological state up into a post psychological state. I learned how to move from one paradigm of being the hero's journey to a post heroic journey. There's no heroes. There's no.

These are other templates of being and, and we begin to experiment with that. And then simultaneously, it's not a line, it's all happening at once. Simultaneously, we become aware that all of these things are being played out.

On the screen of my awareness.

And my Awareness.

Is outside time. It's outside space. I don't know what it is. I don't. I can't even find myself in.

Appears like it's coming through a center, but I don't appear to have a head in it. So I'm not even in it. I'm not in my consciousness because I am my consciousness. And it begins to.

Deconstruct. We begin to allow ourselves to become deconstructed by the experience of becoming close and tender with a mystery that resolves subject, object at the same time as we are playing subject and object. It is complicated. That doesn't mean that it is.

It doesn't mean that it, it is complex. That doesn't mean that it's complicated. It's complex. And, and the, the, the articulation of it.

Sounds again, it's like trying to, to tell somebody how to drive their car. It's int. It is. It sounds complex because we have fragmented ourselves going all the way back to these origin stories that we talked about earlier. We have distanced ourselves from a non. Dual experience. And.

This is the Humpty Dumpty story.

I am.

I love all the King's Men.

Yes.

You know. You know, you don't. There's nothing you can do to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. But the experience.

Of the state that is whole was always whole, will always be whole, can only be whole. That supersedes and holds the capacity for us to wander off inside of it, pretending to having a. An interesting dream series of dreams inside of it. That place puts us back together again. What is beyond that? Well, you know, again, if you're in certain traditions in the east, that is pretty much the end of the reincarnational cycle of trying to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. Not because it's a reward because. But because, well, what's the point? I got the game. I got the game. And we're all winners in the end. But while you're playing the game, if you know you're going to win, there's no fun in playing the game. Get right up to the edge and you play the game over and over and over again. But if you know you're going to win once you know you're going to win once you know the game, once you know all the world's a stage and you are every single player.

Game'S over.

Have. Have fun.

Have fun. Yes. That is what. That will be my parting word to our listeners. Remember the love.

I love it, Bern.

Super, super fun.

Love, love, love. You. Thank you so much for being a part of this.

Love you.

Great to be with you. Peace and blessings.

Be well. Bye everyone.

Bye.

I hope you enjoyed our conversation with Barnett Bain. You can learn more about barnett@barnettbain.com that's B A R N E T B A I N.com and now in the second part of the podcast, it's just you and me. I'll tell you how to use the paralyminal sessions in the MindTrax app to easily handle obstacles and move toward the success you want, especially as it relates to our conversation with Barnett. If you're new to the relaxing paraliminal audio sessions, they use breakthrough technologies to activate your whole mind in only 20 minutes to help improve any area of your life. Let's get going.

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Welcome to the follow on session with our conversation with Barnett Bain. Talk about drinking from a deep well. I absolutely love Barnett. It's got some great ideas and I'd like to offer some ways that you can use paralimal technology.

To use the information that we discussed today. Take it to a level deeper. A big part of what he was saying is how can we embody or really live our role as the creative force in our lives to be able to willingly create a life of meaning and purpose and live into our great work in this lifetime? A lot of very interesting subtle distinctions, but what I'd like to talk about is the simplicity of it all comes down to a few simple ideas. The first is that our life purpose is really about our conscious awareness of who we are, what we're doing, who we are being on a daily basis. Secondly, it's about having a compassionate relationship with ourselves so we are our own best support mechanisms as we are on the heroic journey of our life to create a life of meaning and purpose. And finally the idea of, well, actually the next is about living to your life's purpose, really living up to the fuller expression of what he refers to as the great work of our lives. And finally is the idea of being intentional about our daily transitions. That it says we move from one task to the next, to be exquisitely aware of that means that we really bring the full attention or the presence of who we are and more creatively are able to engage the true meaning and power of our lives, but also all the resources that are within us and around us to get where we want to go. So paraliminal on the first concept, which is that our life purpose is connected to being consciously aware. The first parallel that occurs to me on this is called the New history generator where we're actually able to think about the trajectory of our lives from when we were living our first story. As Barnett talks about it, what happened to us, that didn't work out very well.

And we can look at our lives from three different.

Different trajectories. One is the life that we lived as it was a life that we wished we could have lived. And one where something unexpected occurs. And in this we start to recognize the creative potential within us to modify our own personal history, our memory of our history, so that we can recognize, we can choose how things go going forward from there. So first story, second story, and then third story, which is what is the narrative of our lives that we would like to live into. So that's a new history generator. The session A is a little different than session B. Session B gives you the opportunity to review this day.

Do what Dr. Buckminster Fuller referred to and, and Barnett was a student of Bucky Fuller as well. But to. To live in a daytight compartment, to have a compassionate view of yourself having lived, perhaps fallen off track, perhaps failed at some things, but live recognizing that you get a do over tomorrow, you have an opportunity to get better and better as each day progresses. The second parallel that addresses the idea of living with more conscious awareness and purpose is the paralimal conscious time, where you really recognize today you get to decide how you're going to use the time that you have. Can't save time, you can only spend it. So how will you spend it? Will you spend it intentionally, willfully, connected to the resources that are available to you, the sense of optimism, possibility, what will be the container for your choice of how you live this day.

The second area is the idea of having a compassionate relationship with yourself. And in this we have a paralliminal called self love, where we take that part of us which was our past and we take that part of us which is the future yet to be lived. Our inner elder and our inner child or our younger selves. We bring them together with our present self right here and now and be able to have a relationship to the trajectory of our own life Story, first story, not only, you know, the tragedies and limitations that we came in with, or the gifts that we may have come in with, but also what we did with that, how we overcame our limitations and then finally, where are we headed and when we can have an awareness of the entire arc of our lives, we can be much more purposeful in how we live. Really love the self, love, paralleliminal, it builds that Compassionate way of being with yourself.

The third area is the idea of living up to the fullest expression of your life's purpose. And at the end of our conversation, you may remember, talked about overcoming, you know, going from one state to the next, maybe in the highest, is passion, and that is the energy of our heart being fully expressed. And the para liminal called joy, really sets us in the context of our living a fully expressed, joyful life this day, right here, right now. Great. Para liminal. There's another one, gratitude, which is wonderful for whatever happened, but passion and, and the joy, para liminal is one I'd recommend based on our conversation with Barnett. And then the final area is about being intentional about your daily transitions.

Now, there is a special time every single day where we transition from wakefulness to sleep.

And from sleep to wakefulness. The ancient tradition of the Himalayan yoga meditation. There are three distinct states, wakefulness, dream and sleep. Sleeping other than dreaming, but that's that point. I referred to it in my conversation with Barnett. But that withdrawing of the universe back to itself, to that original creative state from which everything emerges, and this ideal parallel for getting in touch with that, developing a capacity for it is asleep deeply, wake up refreshed. Paralimal and the listening sessions are designed at those transition points. So as you're going to sleep, listen to sleep deeply. As you're awakening, listen to the wake refreshed. In both cases, what you're doing is you're creating a bookend to your day. More importantly is you're managing the those transition states. When you get really skilled at transitioning in that way, you're actually going to be able to see how you can transition in all things during the day. So you're getting ready for a meeting, how you step out of whatever you're doing and step into a state in which you're going to be most effective at the meeting or you're coming home from work and you're going to join your family. What's that transition going to be like? How intentional will you be? Will you carry your business day with you or you will you leave it behind? If you have some homework to do, it's fine to work on it. Be mindful of how you transition from one state to the next. The more mindful you are, the more intentional you are, the more purposeful you can be. You're developing your conscious awareness. And as Barnett says, all there is is, is consciousness. And consciousness is the original creator of all that you experience in this day. Now it is a deep well to drink from. If you try to follow that one all the way to the end, it's more than what we could get into in our brief. Yes, it was brief. Our brief conversation with Barnett. I'll tell you, it is wonderful to be with him. I hope you get a chance to watch some of his movies. I hope you get a chance to read some of his books. Great thinker, wonderful person and it was my joy to bring him to you.

Peace and blessings. That's all for now.

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