Star Trek Discovery - Transporter Philosophical Question Solved?

Star Trek: Discovery's radically different transporter design might solve the classic sci-fi paradox: does the transporter kill you and make a copy, or does consciousness actually transfer? The host explores whether a wormhole or black-hole mechanism could explain the new apparatus and finally answer the question that's haunted the franchise since the original series.
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Hey you, welcome back to the channel. And today, guys, we're going to explore, um, has or possibly has an age-old issue with the Star Trek transporter been resolved, or will it be resolved? And, uh, this is going to be highly speculative video, guys, of a pet peeve of mine. And I'm hoping this series can resolve that. It may not, more likely it might not, but I can be hopeful anyway. So let's talk a little bit about the transporter we have here in Star Trek Discovery. Photos were released of the set and what transporter would look like. It's very different, very strange from what we've seen transporters look like. Also, Star Trek Discovery has taken many other liberties on the look of Star Trek in a prequel setting. Nothing really seems a part of the continuity of the story, right? Some people say it resembles more the J.J. Abrams type movies, right? Some say, you know, it really doesn't seem to fit in any of the timeline as we know it, the Kelvin or the Prime. Timeline otherwise. It's like it's just something totally— like just something totally new of its own, different. So if that's the case and they've taken those liberties, as it were, and they've also just changed totally any look of a transporter we can imagine— I mean, even if you go back to Star Trek Enterprise when they had the first person to invent a transporter transporter doesn't look anything reminiscent of this or anything like this. But this is just a weird, strange-looking transporter. You know, it has these large disc-type things, and the way it's structured, it looks like this is probably going to spin. That's what it looks like to me. It looks like it might create some type of spinning mechanism, and there almost seems like an aperture here behind Captain Yoru of the Shinzou that maybe focuses some type of beam, maybe it's a scanner or what have you, or maybe that just— it looks just like that as part of the crank apparatus or whatever. But anyway, let's just talk about a continual problem that's been with transporters, and if this series may address that. If it does, I would be so happy if it does. Something tells me it may not, but anyway, let's explore, try to get an idea why this looks like this, try to come up with some, some reasons, you know, what's going on, and if the transporter may solve a big philosophical issue. So let's first deal with a little bit of quick history of the transporter. We know that the transporter system was created Initially during Gene Roddenberry's creation of Star Trek, it was created because of large budget constraints with the Star Trek series. They wanted to just use shuttles, which I think would have worked a great deal better. They didn't have the budget, so they said, well, let's just kind of let them show up on the planet. Have them appear there, be there. And so the transporter was created out of necessity. There was really no science, you know, to back it up until years later, you know, when a lot of theories came up on how this thing could really work. But, you know, basically in short, we didn't— we never really got a strong philosophical reason as to why this thing exists, you know. It created a lot of problems. If it was breaking down your matter and recreating it someplace else, much like a replicator, you know, even like how we have 3D printers today where we can reassemble things out of the same material. But we understand when we do that, that that's material someplace else that is not the exact same material that was reassemble, uh, you know, wherever the teleportation came, or the, or the, the printing, you know, the data was sent over to print a particular, you know, uh, object or what, you know, what have you. Uh, and the issue, guys, the issue with all of this is that, so then is it really you who's beaming over there, or is it just some type of duplicate Or some type of recreation, you know, of you, you know, which, you know, seems like, you know, more likely it would be that. And, um, you know, if it wasn't, then would it be, uh, would your consciousness, whatever creates your consciousness, would that be part, uh, you know, of the transport? Would that actually go over, or is there no actual consciousness as we know it. Uh, and so it would just technically be you as it'll be the same pattern, same pattern of information, so to speak. You know, with that, you know, with that, with that work. So a lot of, you know, a lot of philosophical issues arise with transportation, some that seemingly have and may never be solved. And so, uh, will this be addressed? You know, will, you know, will it continually be the destruction of the original person going into the transporter and somebody else arriving, or some being like you arriving on the other end of the transporter? Um, so some people have came up with some other ideas about the transporter, some ideas that would put a lot of concerns for me at rest, but, uh, you know, also would make a lot more sense, especially, uh, you know, since from what I'm getting from this Star Trek, they don't mind taking liberties on what they're doing with the look of the show and the feel of the show. I mean, there are a lot of stuff out of continuity. You know, you look at the bridge, for instance, it's a great deal more updated than the 1960s bridge. I know a lot of people say, "Hey, come on, you know, you can't hold a standard to that. You've gotta, you know, change those things, you know, to update the show. That was a 1960s show." And yeah, that's true. That's very true. But there have been cases where in the continuity of things, you know, people have gotten away with that. Recall back to the Star Trek Deep Space Nine situation where Sisko goes back to the bridge to deal with the Tribbles, and they actually are part of the crew of Captain Kirk's crew, and, you know, through some time travel situation and You know, the setting looks exactly like it looked in the 1960s in the Star Trek, you know, 1960s or the original series. They didn't seem to have a problem with it then, you know, but of course how this show looks, there's liberties on the continuity of what it looks like. But you know, as well, I wonder then, would it be possible for them to just go ahead and deal with this transporter issue by changing the way it functions. And, uh, if you guys are familiar with a movie called Event Horizon, this set feels a great deal like Event Horizon. In this movie, uh, science fiction movie in the mid-'90s, I believe it dealt a lot with black holes and time travel and ships traveling to furthest reaches of the galaxy, much like a transporter does. Transporter sends you to different locations at different speeds, right? If we recall in Star Trek II of the J.J. Abrams reboot, or Star Trek Into Darkness, Khan had this interdimensional transporter, which not only just transported him, you know, to a location, a different location or different spot, it just transported him, I believe, all the way back to the Klingon homeworld, if I remember correctly. So this thing defies not just space and time, it defies, you know, defies distance. And so what I'm getting at, guys, is I think it would be great if, since they're already taking liberties with, you know, with Star Trek as it is, why not resolve this issue if this transporter was some type of device that could create a type of black hole/wormhole that it could create maybe enough energy through the aperture or whatever this, this thing does and kind of more or less open up a gateway to where they're really just passing and slipping through dimensions or wormholes or something to that effect, where their actual being is moving through this wormhole at different points in different locations, just like the Stargate world. How it's worked in Stargate. And I think that would be an interesting way to address that. Now, the reason I think that this won't happen is because as we look at the teleportation transporter effects, it looks very much like, you know, what you would get in a standard transporter. So, you know, that puts me in the mind of breaking down and creation of matter, which again doesn't solve the issue. You know, however it goes, I'm on board to see how this thing works, what it does, if they can give some explanation of why it needs to look like this, you know, you know, other than it just looking kind of strange and looking like a big gong. You know, maybe they could give some some very technical information as to why it looks like that. I'm pretty sure that they've had a consultant on board. You know, the Next Generation and the other Star Treks, they would have people like, I believe, Professor Krauss. And so I'm sure that there's a practical reason why this thing looks like this. There's an explanation other than it just, you know, being this weird set design. Maybe it's an alien alien ship. But I believe the Shinzu does look like, uh, you know, much more like a standard Federation ship in design. But maybe it could be a collaboration between themselves and maybe some other alien race. Maybe there's an alien race that comes up with the technology first and they have to use some variation of it. But anyway, guys, tell me what you think about the look of the transporter. Uh, has the transporter technology ever embodied you with the destruction of the person on the end of the transmitter being recreated. And, uh, we're trying to figure out if it's really us, and if it's just a matter of being able to reconstruct the same patterns and information, then they can just create multiple copies of the person, much as like we've seen happen in many other Star Trek, and a lot of times we've seen the Star Trek shows where they split people in half. But if we really think about that for a moment, if it can just create people like that based on the material and matter, it would seem that it should be able to recreate and store and create as many copies of that person as needed without the transporter splitting their atoms in various, you know, parts. But anyway, guys, tell me what you all think about the look of the transporter. Do you like it? Do you think it's going to work and do the same thing it's done with the other Star Trek shows? And guys, if you like this, don't forget to like and subscribe. And until next time. Take care.
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