Star Trek - JJ Abrams Movies The Best (Proof)

Hey guys, welcome back to the channel. And today we want to discuss a kind of controversial topic. I don't want to start a Federation civil war, guys, but this question just came to my mind, and I know it's been brought up in various ways on YouTube and, you know, around, you know, amongst Trekkies and things like that, but You know, the question as to whether J.J. Abrams' incarnation of Star Trek, his development of the Star Trek reboots, you know, if they've been good movies. And I could basically just say my opinion is they've been good or they've been bad, but I want to take a look at what Rotten Tomatoes has to say. Now, I know a lot of people say, well, Rotten Tomatoes system isn't that great, it's critic scoring. But after doing a little bit of research into Rotten Tomatoes, Rotten Tomatoes is actually pretty darn good. As far as I understand it, it's a combination of— it is the critic reviews, professional critic reviews, as well as audience score views. So I mean, that's pretty, you know, that's pretty— I mean, if we're gonna have an opinion about something, you know, making a statement. Of course, we all entrench our own opinion, but for something to really have, you know, be close to the consensus of what many film watchers want to see, there needs to be some type of data to support that, you know, some views, hold something to go along with that. And Rotten Tomatoes seems to do a very good job of that. You know, if you look here at, you know, one of— they have Star Trek Beyond, the last Star Trek movie we got in the franchise, and the Rotten Tomatoes score is 84%. And then the score next to it is what the audience thought, and that's 81%. And I think that's a pretty fair score for that movie. I think that movie fits somewhere in that range. You know, I have also scored other movies that I liked or disliked, and many times their scores got pretty close. One such movie was Batman vs. Superman. I thought the score was fitting for Batman vs. Superman. Superman. It got a 68, um, Rotten Tomatoes score. I thought, you know, me personally, I thought that was pretty, you know, pretty good, you know, fitting. That's how I felt about the movie. Now, um, you know, I'm, you know, I'm not saying that, um, these are bad movies, um, specifically with the Star Trek, uh, comparisons. I'm only comparing them towards each movie. You know, I'm comparing the J.J. Abrams Star Treks to the past Star Trek movies we got. And so, you know, in that fashion, I'm not— just because how I'm comparing it, how I'm looking at the data, if a score is higher in comparison to the next, to the other Star Treks, I'm saying that may be an indicator that they're better films based on the audience scoring and the professional critic score. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying they're bad movies because there are some in this system I disagree with, but if we look at the first movie here, Star Trek Beyond, I would say very much that I'm pretty much in agreement with that score. Star Trek Into Darkness, same thing, 86% from the professional critics, the critic consensus, and 90% from audiences. I thought that was a great score. I didn't think Star Trek Into Darkness was the best Star Trek movie, but just want to speak about J.J. Abrams real quick for a little bit before I keep going down the list. I just want to say that I've heard all the stories about J.J. Abrams from him not really being a Star Trek fan, not knowing much about Star Trek. But I just want to say that I think J.J. Abrams has captured a lot of the spirit of Star Trek. People have complained about him using a lot of lens flares in the movie. I don't know, I kind of like the lens flares in the movies. They're out in space, you're getting a lot of light from the stars and different things like that. I like all of the warp engine special effects when they're going into warp speed. Feeds and things like that. Uh, also, JJ has done something that I was never able to do. You know, I fit the demographic between 30 and 40 years old, so I'm not a part of those old Star Trek generations a bit. I love the original series, but JJ Abrams has been able to do something I never could do back then, and that's to get younger audiences of the time to really like Star Trek, to think Star Trek was something they were interested in. They thought it was just a weird science fiction movie a lot of times and only like geeks and nerds watched them. But I think J.J. Abrams has actually kind of made Star Trek less nerdy and more open to a lot of the younger audiences and things like that. So I have to give J.J. props for that. But, you know, just getting back to specifically— and then again, I'm a Trekkie, and to me Trekkie is— I don't, as a Trekkie, as a kind of purist Trekkie, I don't feel like I really have an opinion about if a Star Trek is good or bad. In a weird way, anything Star Trek for me as a Trekkie is good Star Trek. Now some Star Treks are better than others, but as a Trekkie, I support all Star Trek movies, whether they're fan-based movies or silver screen movies. So just wanted to get that out there. I feel I'm a purist in that regard. But let's get back to the scoring system and I'll just say if I agree or not. With Star Trek Into Darkness— oh, well, Star Trek Beyond, I'm going to go real brief because there's so many Star Trek movies. We're going to go through all of the scores. I'm not going to comment on all of them. I'm going to go real quick because I don't want to make this video too long. I appreciate you guys' time. But Star Trek Beyond, I wasn't too thrilled about the director when J.J. couldn't do the movie. But the score is fitting, I think. I think 84% from critics and 81% from the audience, I thought that was fitting. I thought it was very action-packed. Again, probably trying to capture that younger audience who has the ADHD sufferers who really can't do a lot of character development and plots and things like that. You know, sometimes that's necessary as a YouTuber. Same thing, you know, a lot of people probably, younger audience won't watch my video because I'm not making funny faces, I'm not having all these crazy reactions, which is, you know, which is fine. There's sometimes a necessary thing to bring in a younger audience that needs to be done. But let's get into Star Trek Into Darkness, 86% from Rotten Tomatoes, while critics 90% from the audience. I thought that was a great score. I thought that was a fitting score. I like Star Trek Into Darkness. My thing is though, Star Trek Into Darkness would have been a good movie without making Benedict Cumberbatch be Khan. You know, they didn't need Khan. Him being Harrison, just this super agent with superhuman powers, some type of drug would have been fine. They didn't need to— uh, the Kong movie was done so well. J.J. Abrams, I feel, did make a mistake in that he didn't have to redo the Wrath of Kong. Wrath of Kong was just one of those movies you shouldn't touch. You should go past it or go before, but leave it alone. He didn't do that. Big mistake on his part. But still, still, I enjoyed the movie. The first Star Trek in the reboot series, 95-91%, very fitting score. I really like that movie. Um, you know, it brought Star Trek back to this next generation, this new generation. It made it relevant today on a way that has never been done before. Because you gotta remember that way back when, when Star Trek first came out and into The Next Generation, it wasn't grabbing you know, the masses of audience. It was a particular demographic to Star Trek fans, but now it's much broader with how, you know, Chris Pine and the rest of the cast. And I think that's why I agree with this score. And that's another thing I'm finding, as I'm not a professional critic, I'm not a professional movie reviewer, you guys can tell that from my videos. And I'm not going to claim, I've never claimed to be. But I do find it interesting how in my mind what I think would be appropriate scores for these movies, especially just from an audience perspective of 91%, I think that's great. I probably would have gave it, I think I would have gave it maybe a 93, you know, an A-, you know. Is a 91 an A? I think a 91 used to be a B back in grade school, but I would have given it an A-. They gave it a 95 on Rotten Tomatoes. I think that's a little bit ambitious, a little bit high, but I'll go with it. Star Trek: Nemesis. Now, next one, that was done in 2002. My problem with Star Trek: Nemesis was that, well, I've always had a big issue with the Star Trek The Next Generation's transition to film. And I don't think that's just because— I don't think that's just based on it being done a while ago and the special effects of film. I don't think it had anything to do with that. I think it had just something to do with the— how they transitioned. You know, sometimes you got to be careful when you do a lot of these Star Trek movies and you have the TV show going simultaneously. Because then they just kind of feel like a long Star Trek episode. You know what I mean? It's kind of like you feel like you're watching an episode of The Next Generation, but you're just— it's just a longer episode. And I just didn't get that movie experience with a lot of these. Not on every Star Trek. Now, some of them hit it right, and we'll get to that as we go down the list. But Nemesis just didn't do it for me. I didn't like Nemesis in that regard. Star Trek: Insurrection, 55%. Uh, but let me go back to Star Trek: Nemesis. I will say that 49% was too low. I would have gave it a 75 for Star Trek: Nemesis because I'm a Trekkie, so it's gonna always, you know, get probably 70 or above with me. So I disagree with this particular score, but I, you know, in comparison to the J.J. Abrams films it still pales in comparison score-wise in my opinion to Rotten Tomatoes critics and that of the audience here. Star Trek: Insurrection, again, I think the scores are too low. 55% by Rotten Tomatoes, 45% by the audience, but I would have given this Uh, I'm gonna say 75 for it too. Let's get down here to Star Trek: First Contact. I really love this one. This was my favorite of The Next Generation's transition to the silver screen. Really like this one. I, I, I, you know what, I'm gonna go with a 93 on that one. Um, now the critics did go to 93, the audience went with an 89%, but I would lift that up to about a 93%. So getting close to J.J.'s movies, but still, you know, behind a bit when compared to the first Star Trek, 2009, J.J. Abrams. Generations. Star Trek: Generations came out in 1994. I remember seeing that at the movie theater. I would give that a 78. It gets a 57 from the audience, 49. I would give it a 78 simply because I thought it was too, um, it was a lot of expectations with this. You got to remember that there was a lot of, uh, expectations and a lot of expectations. Sorry, we had a cat fight. My cats were fighting. A lot of expectations with this film. Excuse me one second. Okay, I'm back guys. Apparently what happened, one of my cats wasn't a J.J. Abrams fan and the other cat got in a fight with him about it and you know, so they've gotten that resolved. But anyway, yeah, as I was saying, with Star Trek Generations, there were a lot of expectations because this was like the first time the Picard and Shatner, or Patrick Stewart and William Shatner, Captain Kirk and Jean-Luc Picard, were going to be on screen together. And, you know, everybody was anticipating what that was going to be like. And I thought it was all right. Uh, you know, um, Rotten Tomatoes, uh, you know, but it was a lot of expectations with it, uh, you know, based on that. And so, um, Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 49, the audience here 57%. Uh, again, uh, I, I thought it did a lot better than that. I'm gonna give it an 80%. I'm gonna say I would have gave it an 80%. It was just good enough. It wasn't great, but it was, you know, it was not the worst of them, that's for sure, of the Star Trek generation films, or the next generation to silver screen films. But, you know, it wasn't a great— who's the director? David Carson? And while Riker, Jonathan Frakes, directed First Contact, I forgot about that. Well, Well, Riker did a great job. You know, he needs to do some more directing. I thought he did a real great job on that. So yeah, that's how I would score Star Trek Generations. Let's move on down here. Let's see what else we got. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Really like that one. That's one of my favorite. Star Trek films. I think they were fair with the score, but I would give it a lot higher than that. I would say Undiscovered Country should get about, I'd say at least in my opinion, at least about a 90, at least a 90%, at least a 90%. Rotten Tomatoes gave it 84%, not too bad, and the audience gave it 83%. Well, I thought the audience would have did a little bit better with that 83%, but you know. Now Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, um, uh, 23%. No, I wouldn't have gave it that low, but this is for many the worst Star Trek, uh, film. Uh, it's pretty close. I, I, I, I would give this one, uh, I don't know, something about— as bad as this film was to many people— oh, William Shatner directed, I forgot. William Shatner directed. But as bad as it was to a lot of people, I actually— something about it I liked still. I had something about it I liked. And because of that, I have to disagree with the Rotten Tomatoes score. I would have given it more like, I would say about a 75. I give it a 75. And I'm not going to get into all my reasons why I liked it, but it was something about it I still— it was something about it I kind of still like. Now, The Voyage A lot of people like The Voyage Home. I thought The Voyage Home was pretty good. They giving it an 85 here and an 81%. I'm gonna give it a 78%. You know, I thought it was okay. Uh, you know, I thought it was pretty good, them going back with the whales and all of that. But, um, you know, you got to remember with this Star Trek, they spent a lot of time, you know, uh in the modern time of the day. And so they didn't get a whole lot of— there wasn't a whole lot of, you know, space stuff going on, you know what I mean? It was more their interaction into modern day, like some of the old Star Trek episodes where they would time travel back into the past and they would be in that setting. So we got a lot of that with Star Trek 4, you know. It wasn't really that Star Trek-y. It was a message about saving whales and the environment, which was fine, but I wouldn't really consider it a, you know, a top-notch, you know, Star Trek science fiction film. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, one of my favorite Star Treks. I would have to give that— now the audience did— I don't— this is kind of weird where the critics are scoring way above on Star Trek III than the audience. Like, why would the audience only give 61% on The Search for Spock? I have no idea. I thought that was a great film. Even the Rotten Tomatoes critics did better on this. They gave it a 79%. But here's what I think I would have scored it at. I think I would have had to score this at, I would say, about a 90%. I think I would have gave this a 90%. Directed by Leonard Nimoy. Again, Leonard Nimoy is just a master of directing these Star Treks with the exception here of Nicholas Meyers and that's Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. I thought the critics did an excellent job with this. 88 and 90% for pretty honest, I would have to give Wrath of Khan, uh, I would give it a— I would have to give it a 95. Absolutely a 95. It's only— I guess it's only one part about it. I, I think with the Wrath of Khan, I just wanted it to be— only, only fault I could find with it is when it slowed down to get more of the plot going, when they were kind of stuck in the, um on the space station, and it was— and they had the little Genesis caves thing going on. And, um, that's about the only thing that, uh, it was kind of slow. It got a bit slow there, but other than that, uh, just an awesome, awesome movie. The best, I think the best in my opinion next to Star Trek III. Uh, so they're, you know, they're very close together. Uh, and then Star Trek: The Motion Picture, which 46% and 42%, they gave Star Trek: The Motion Picture, I think that was, they did that pretty bad. I think Star Trek: The Motion Picture was a lot better than that. It wasn't great, but it was definitely better than this. I would have to give Star Trek: The Motion Picture at least about a 7. 78%. Uh, and I'm not going to get into all the individual movies. All of them will take hours to review as to why. I'm just going over, but if we're just looking at these numbers, trying to get some polling data going with this, you know, I would say that, uh, you know, that overall the J.J. Abrams movies, racial-wise, the statistic-wise, average-wise, according to the critics in this particular audience who's voting on Rotten Tomatoes, I would have to say that the J.J. Abrams movies are better, you know, that they've done better based on this information and this data. You know, does that make that particularly the case though? No, it doesn't make it the case, but I guess it's still a little bit better than just going, you know, it's better or it's worse, you know. You know, because then we're just forming opinions and it's just one opinion out of millions, right? You know, or maybe we need to do a poll amongst Star Trek fans, but, you know, but, you know, in any event, I think J.J. Abrams, even though he's went different directions with this, I think overall his reboot has been positive. For me, it's been positive, and I think for a general, general audience, it's been positive. He's also done great with the— I actually like what he's done with the Star Wars too, because with the Star Wars, I mean, you know, The Force Awakens, and he didn't do Rogue One, but both of those Star Wars to me had a similar feel to them, you know, just this kind of more significant Star Wars. So I, I, JJ Abrams to me gets it. He gets it. But, um, I would like him to pay homage to the, the original timeline, you know. I don't, you know, to me it seemed like he tried, tried to go off in his own direction, do something totally different. I agree with LeVar Burton. I don't think he had the necessarily just take everything out of that timeline. I think he could have stayed in that timeline, but, uh, you know, still paying homage to the— to these characters. Uh, just like he brought in, uh, Leonard Nimoy to do Spock cameos, uh, he could have did this with William Shatner. William Shatner claims he was never offered the role, uh, or cameo in any of the movies. Some, some claim that William Shatner, because of his ego. He wanted a bigger part, a serious part in the movie, and maybe what they were offering him, similar to what they did with Spock, that just wasn't going to be enough for Shatner. I have no idea. They've kind of, you know, sent messages back and forth. Who knows? Uh, you know, I love William Shatner. I love Captain Kirk. And even if he does have an ego, I would still like to see him part of these reboots. But anyway, guys, that's, uh, you know, that's, uh What I want to relate to you all to this, I know you guys got your own opinions and I appreciate them and I like to hear them and I've heard many before about, you know, how they feel about JJ Abrams. I get it, I understand all the different points of view. But if you did like the video, don't forget to like and subscribe. If you hated it, dislike. Likes or dislikes, fine with me. And until next time, guys, Take care.