In this video, the host examines the rumor that Matt Reeves' ultra‑realistic Batman, portrayed by Robert Pattinson, could be incorporated into James Gunn’s upcoming DC Universe (DCU). He begins by citing Gunn’s interview where Gunn says he wants to tell both canonical DCU stories and “Elseworld” tales, and questions how a hyper‑realistic Batman would coexist with the broader, more fantastical DCU roster. The host contrasts his own shift from a Marvel‑popcorn mindset to appreciating Christopher Nolan’s grounded superhero tone, then argues that while realism works for Batman (and similar street‑level heroes like the Punisher or Daredevil), it clashes with characters such as Superman, Green Lantern, or Ultraman, whose mythic powers demand a more comic‑book aesthetic. He critiques the Snyderverse’s approach to Superman as an example of a realistic tone that fails in a shared universe context. The video explores possible integration paths: a standalone Elseworld Batman series, or a limited crossover (e.g., Batman appearing in the Creature Commandos/Clayface storyline) that maintains tonal separation. He also discusses how other franchises (Thor, Guardians of the Galaxy) balance goofiness with grounded elements, suggesting the DCU may need to accept a hybrid tone rather than forcing all heroes into a Nolan‑style realism. Finally, he invites viewers to share their opinions on whether a realistic Batman could ever share screen time with Superman in the DCU, ending with typical YouTube calls to action.
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And welcome back to the channel. I hope you're having a great evening. So today, guys, we want to talk about this rumor that's been surfacing concerning the Matt Reeves The Batman starring Robert Pattinson's inclusion into the DCU, right? Does he fit into the DCU, right? So in a recent interview with, uh, James Gunn He had a comment on it because I believe he was asked the question, and his answer was, I'm committed to both telling stories in the DCU and telling Elseworld stories. I want the freedom to tell Elseworld stories, Gunn said. So, um, what do How do we, how do we address a Robert Pattinson into the DCU with all these host of characters, right? So as much as I like James Gunn, and it wasn't always the case, right? Um, I was a kind of, uh, not a huge Marvel fan, right? Because I thought a lot of it was popcorn movies. I thought they were, you know, the goofiness was there And, you know, I was— I pretty much embraced the world of Christopher Nolan, you know, a more realistic superhero interpretation at the time, right? Because, you know, like many people, you grow up as kids with the comic books, superhero films, and as you get older, you like a more mature tone, right? You want to see how these things translate. But then you start to understand that not everything translates to those type of films because first of all, you're in a fantastical world. Let me use Thor again as an example. Uh, you know, there were certain elements of goofiness about Thor films, right? You know, these Norse gods walking around Asgard, right? There were, there were certain goofy elements about it, but there was also a, a well-character-developed movie that you could get behind, right? And you just kind of had to accept that you were in this fantastical world, and that's what it was, right? Some things just wasn't gonna look real, right? And that's how a lot of Marvel films were. Right? Just like Guardians of the Galaxy, you get the talking raccoons, you get the, you know, um, but then I began to understand that, you know, when you're going into a fantastical world, there are certain elements that need to exist in them, I believe, for them to work, right? And when you're dealing with a character like Superman, essentially a god that can fly through the air, you then start to, you know, understand why certain things work, certain things don't. Uh, and that's why I think I had such a problem with the Snyderverse and what Zack Snyder did with Superman, because, uh, you know, as I had mentioned in earlier videos, um, you know, there was this atmosphere of this Superman film translate into what it would be like if, you know, Superman was real and he existed in the real world and how things would work, right? And even if you go back to Christopher Reeve's early version of Superman, right, um, you know, even though there were elements that put him in the real world, there were a lot of elements that were goofy you know, in the original Superman movie, right? The characters, the plots, the, the plans, you know, it was some things in there that were still very comic booky, right? Um, so here's the problem, guys. This is, this is, this is what it comes down to. The Robert Pattinson Batman that Matt Reeves created He is just ultra-realistic. He might be more realistic than Christopher Nolan Batmans, right? He may actually really be more realistic than that. And a character like this, you know, when James Gunn in the article is explaining the DCU and Elseworld, right, he's kind of thinking of these stories that aren't canonical to the DCU, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, it's part of his production, but they're not part of the canon of the DCU, right? And so these Elseworld stories, right? And I believe he's referring to The Batman when he talks about telling stories like that, right? The problem is Superman, the Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, Ultraman, you know, all these people, they can't fit into a Matt Reeves Batman like what you get with the Penguin and you get with Falcone and you get with Catwoman and you get with, you know, these, these are just next level. To see him coming to a comic book world would be so weird. So, uh, and, um, it's very important to make the distinction, guys, because I feel like if we can't make that distinction, we're, we're, we're going right back into that Man of Steel territory. That was the problem with Man of Steel, that, that version of Superman would never translate into a James Gunn world, right? It, you know, it's that version of Superman is kind of on that realistic spectrum like, um, you know, like, uh, The Batman is, right? Um, so it is more likely that Man of Steel could have translated into a Robert Pattinson type, uh, Batman story, right? That may have— that would have worked better than what would work in the James Gunn's version, right? Now again, the problem being Uh, these dark, uh, realistic superhero films, right? Where is it? Where it's great with Batman, it doesn't work with Superman, right? You know, it really doesn't. It just doesn't. And, um, it's certainly not going to work in a character-driven, uh, superhero-driven franchise where you're going to have 20, 30 different superheroes on the screen at some point, you know, if they want Gunn to take this in the direction like, you know, they did over— he did with Marvel. And that's not going to work to have a Robert Pattinson, you know, Batman, uh, elbowing it up with, uh, the Red Tornado and the Question and, you know, you know what I'm saying, all of these, uh Justice League characters, and it's just, it's just, uh, so many of them, uh, that type of Batman. So you have to have another type of Batman, right, to fit that, you know, uh, and that, that can't be Robert Pattinson. This is a, a Batman on the level of like the Christopher Nolan Batman. Right? So that's why I think that would be a terrible idea. Now, what would— what James Gunn is saying about these Elseworld stories, if they want to do a kind of production, a standalone Batman world, right, then that makes sense, right? You could introduce characters that are relative in Batman. Now, but here's where it gets a little tricky. Right? If you watch Creature Commandos, you know that— spoiler alert— you get Clayface, uh, in there, right? But you also get, uh, that they're coming— the DCU's coming out with a Clayface movie film right now. From the information I've gathered, I'm thinking that this Clayface it's going to be kind of realistic, like they, they're, uh, relating him to the, the Fly movies, right? Um, you know, those, those old Fly movies with Jeff Goldblum. And so that could work, right, in the Batman world. But now Clayface was also in the greater DCU because he was in Creature Commandos, right? So you could kind of Or, you know, it could be a situation like where you get Batman at the end of Creature Commandos and, you know, this is a different version of Batman. This is a more comic book Batman and maybe Clayface would be a kind of fit in there or maybe not. Maybe it'll be a kind of standalone film. We don't quite know all the details yet. But it is very important that we make those distinctions because this guy and the Green Lantern and the David Corenswet version of Superman just doesn't mix, guys. It— there's no way we can make this mix. And I think deep down Matt Reeves and James Gunn already knows this, but there are fans who want to see this. Like, you know, there have been fans who've come forward and said things like Well, you know, the, the Matt Reeves Batman, if you looked at Gotham City, it looked kind of comic booky. But did it really though? To me it didn't look comic booky at all. That looked like a grim Chicago-like, dirty, realistic, warm soul looking city. I don't even remember even the Batmobile. You know, the, the one thing that you could have you know, kind of tie the, the Matt Reeves Batman into, uh, uh, you know, a comic booky type feel is make the Batmobile more fantastical. This is the most realistic muscle car version of a Batmobile we've ever seen, right? So this guy belongs nowhere near this, guys. It's a bad idea, guys. It would be— I think it would be going down a level similar to Man of Steel, right? What they tried to do with Man of Steel. I think it would be that bad, guys, to make— to bend this version of Batman into a comic book world like what we're going to get with James Gunn. Now, you know, again, um, you know, for the longest I was on the bandwagon of just of the superhero movies that are realistic. I'm a much older guy, you know, I want to see more mature superhero films, you know, as you get older. But there are just some superhero films that we need to accept that they need to kind of straddle the fence between comic book and, right, like I give the example of the Thor movies, right? And I think we just have to be okay with that. I think we may have to accept that if we try to do certain characters any other way, whether it be Superman or Thor or, you know, whoever, uh, we may have to accept that they're never— if we try to do it like a realistic Christopher Nolan, Matt Reeves, The Batman type film, we may have to accept that they're never going to translate to film, to the silver screen, the same way, right? In the best way, to, to the point it could be an effective, good film, right? We may just have to accept that that's not going to be possible. It's easy to do with Batman because Batman could, in all actuality be a real guy running around here dressed as a bat, wearing Kevlar, and, you know, using gas-powered grappling hooks, right? Um, you know, that could be a realistic thing. There are some heroes in the superhero world that fit that— the Punisher, right? Maybe even, um, Daredevil to a certain extent. Right? Um, but not when you translate to a wondrous superhero galactic world to this degree, right? But anyway, guys, tell me all what you think about that. Do you— would you want to see the Batman, the Matt Reeves Batman working with Superman. Like, I just wonder, even if that happened, or maybe if you're going to do something like that, it'll be at the end of the, of the Batman, however many movies they want to do with that. Because I would think that once you pair this guy up with Superman, he exists in a world where Superman exists, you know, um, you know, I, you know, you imagine that, like, this Superman flying through that Batman movie I, I just can't see it, guys. But anyway, tell me all what you think. Uh, if you like content like this, don't forget to hit that like button, guys, and don't forget to, uh, hit the subscribe button. All of very high value to me, very valuable to me. Share it with your friends, share it on your social media. If you got nothing else to post, just post it there. Um, and as always, take care of yourselves and each other.
