Superman Trailer - Grace Randolph Harassment James Gunn Fans Toxic?

Welcome back to the channel. I hope you're all having a great weekend. So today we want to talk about Grace Randolph addresses online harassment due to her Superman trailer critique, calls out toxicity of James Gunn's fans, right? So I would technically be a James Gunn fan, right? I'm also a Grace Randolph fan, right? I, I've been watching Grace Randolph for many years now, and I value her critique of many films that come out. I think she's very thorough. Um, I think she's, uh, you know, very, uh, encompassing how to— even when she addresses social issues, right, in relation to many of these films, right? Uh, I think she does a great job of that. I think she's socially aware and conscious and how she analyzes these videos, right? So I like Grace Randolph. I really do. Now, what I didn't know is apparently her and James Gunn have been for many years now, or a long time, having these feuds online, right? And I think some of them have to do with a statement she made about Peacemaker, you know, with the Suicide Squad or something like that. Uh, because I'm, I'm very much behind, guys. Even with James Gunn, I just found out probably recently the reason why James Gunn was fired, you know, for over at Marvel, right? And now he's over at DC. DC scooped him up. Now I'm sure Marvel didn't want to see him go, but you know, Marvel's part of Disney brand, and some of the, uh, concerning tweets he did Uh, which I, you know, reading them, looking at them, and, and, you know, it looked like it was all a big joke from his perspective, right? You know, uh, I don't think he thought it through all the way unless he wanted to leave Disney because, um, he, you know, he— I'm sure he's aware they're a family brand and they're gonna jump on stuff like that. So, you know, you do something like that, it's almost like maybe he kind of wanted to leave and he knew that there would be other opportunities out there for him, right? I don't know why he would have thought that Disney would have swept that under the rug, right? But however it went, James Gunn, he's over it. He's running things at DC now, right? So Grace is being harassed because of her criticism of the Superman trailer right now. Uh, here's the only problem I'm finding, guys, with, uh, you know, and I'm not saying Grace isn't— Grace is entitled to her opinion. Uh, I did watch her review. Um, I'm gonna try to remember some of the things she said. Uh, and I'm gonna, you know, try to put in there some of the things she— I agree with she said and the things I didn't agree with, right? Because I certainly didn't agree with everything she said. But I would also, you know, ask Grace to understand that with, with the feud she's had with James Gunn, right, it's gonna make it very difficult to, to James Gunn fans that her reviews are fair, right? And that's just natural for people to feel that way because if you're, if you're having a go with somebody Are they going to get a fair trial? Right. If you guys have a bad past, right. If a person is insulting you online or they're doing this or that, are you going to be able to fairly critique their work? Right. And keep all those things outside of your reviews. Right. And I don't know the answer to that. Grace Rudolph would only know that answer. And I'm not going to say that those aren't the reviews she would have gave anyway, because to be quite honest, I've watched so many Grace Randolph reviews that she's pretty thorough with all her reviews, right? Like, if she sees something wrong, she pretty much calls it out, right? I think even with franchises she likes, I've long time seen her do this. Like, even if she likes the franchise, or the property. I've seen her go, but you know, they should have done this different or that. And I didn't see a whole lot of differences in, uh, with her review in that Superman trailer, right? So when I'm looking at Grace Randolph, you know, in this situation with James Gunn, right, it almost becomes like You know how like in court cases, right, if the— if an attorney, uh, or the prosecutor, or even the judge, if there's some kind of way personally intertwined in the case, that oftentimes they're removed from the case because it's the perception that, you know, they're not going to get a fair trial. I kind of feel like if Grace doesn't like James Gunn, right, because they're having a personal dispute You know, and there's no strike against Grace. It's just that for anybody, it's going to be hard to keep that personal stuff out of there, right? Does that make sense? Right. So I would be concerned about, you know what I mean? Or at least I can see where the fans would be concerned about that, right? And so they might go off the handle and think that Grace is just trying to you know, slam James, slam the, you know, the trail because it's James, it's, you know, it's James Gunn, right? And so that's naturally feel that way. Now, do I think that's what happened in this particular case with Grace? No, not necessarily. But I do think that fans of James Gunn could naturally possibly see it that way, uh, you know, when she criticizes the trailer, right? Especially if the criticisms are— can be kind of specific and kind of a bit, uh, on the line, right? You know, as to say that, um, if it starts to feel like she's just trying to look for stuff, right? She's just looking for things to, to, to, uh, make it look bad, right? I can see why fans would be that way. Now, now, did she do that? I don't know quite if she did that. I think there were some things that got kind of close where I was a little bit concerned about, because there were parts of that trailer where it just seemed like 90% of some of the things she didn't like about that trailer right now, that could have just— could have been— was going to be her opinion anyway. But you see the point I'm making with the history with James Gunn. It would lead people to believe, people will be led to believe that, you know, she was going to be negative either way it went. So I'm gonna try to remember some of the things she said 'cause I'm just doing it off the top of my head. I didn't write 'em down. I didn't think it was gonna be necessary to write 'em down and just go piece by piece because like I said, from what I seen from the trailer, A lot of the things Grace did is, I think, just naturally Grace Randolph with her trailer reviews, right? So I can't say that she was targeting James Gunn. But, uh, uh, you know, and, and people have their opinions. Like, if, if a lot of James Gunn fans are attacking Grace and stuff like that, she has the right to call them out. And I think that's a bad idea. You know, I would say that Uh, you know, when fans attack people for their opinions, I don't think it's just a James Gunn— like, like, you know, the way the article makes me think is like this is just something that happens, uh, on an extreme level with James Gunn fans. I can tell you that, uh, the SnyderVerse, uh, fans, uh, are just as bad, right? So I don't think it's a difference, you know, in that area, like the one is better than the other. It's all bad when you don't allow people to have their opinions, right? That's why when I disagree with opinions, I do it as respectfully as I can. If people comment, I try to be as respectful as I can to them. I've never attacked anybody from having a various opinion, right? I've never, you know, attacked them. But I have given my opinion with the character of what I've known Superman to be and things like that, right? But that's no personal attack against a person, uh, if they're— if their opinion differs from mine, right? And I'm always going to show you respect, uh, you know, uh, when you voice your opinion, right? I'm going to give you mine, but I'm going to be very respectful, right? I'm not going to call you out your name. I'm not going to attack you. Or anything like that. And I would hope that everybody did the same, right? But, uh, you know, looking at some of the things Grace said, right, uh, I want to try to recall some of them, uh, and, uh, you know, see if anything was, you know, nitpicking or, you know, something like that. So I, I, okay, I remember her, I think, having a problem with the weakness of Superman, right? This is, this is something that comes from James— I'm sorry, from the Snyderverse fans a lot, right? That they don't want to see a weakened state Superman, right? That he looks kind of wimpy and they don't want to see that. And, uh, here's the reason I disagree with that. The reason I thought it was genius to have Superman come in weak, uh, and in trouble like that, because it raises the stakes and the emotional investment in what's going to happen to Superman, right? You know, when you overpower a character, the, the thing— there's nothing at stake, right? You You know, like I was explaining with the, uh, SnyderVerse, with, uh, with, uh, Superman fighting Zod, right? That, uh, why could Man of Steel fight Zod? Because I don't consider him Superman. I know everybody gets mad when I say that, but I don't consider him Superman. But these guys are going back and forth, they're destroying everything. They can't really hurt one another, right? So nothing's at stake really for them. Only, only Only thing that's at stake is, uh, you know, uh, this, the city getting destroyed, right? So, uh, you— we get to see Superman bleeding on the ground. He's in a lot of trouble. He's calling for help. And it kind of harkens back to the Donner films, right, where they showed, uh, you know, where Superman became mortal and he got— and Superman 2 He got beat up at the truck stop. He was going, my blood, my blood. And he was acting very human, like how a human being would act if they're in trouble and they're getting beat up. They don't know what to do, right? And so I like those things because it gives us a level of concern that we can lose something, right? And you can't do that with an overpower character, you know, which, you know, which is really what Superman is. Superman in the comics, you know, even in the Donner film, Superman turns back the Earth, he turns back time. What does that mean? That means that there was nothing at stake to begin with. He could just do that right now. I don't know how they explain that, if he could do it all the time, but he did that. And by him doing that, it means that there was never anything at stake, right? So that's what happens when you overpower Superman. And it's interesting to watch, right? That's how come we have to put him in states of weakness. And what does he do when he doesn't have that ultimate power like he has, right? So she was, she was doing that Snyderverse thing, talking about, oh, he looks weak, and he, you know, and I disagree with that. Okay, now this is what I did agree with her on. She had a problem with Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor, right? And I didn't speak much about that, but I was always looking at Nicholas Hoult. You know, Nicholas Hoult, uh, she was saying he, he appeared— he's not a hardened, older, cigar-smoking CEO, corporate America, uh, killer instinct type guy, right? You know, Nicholas Hoult can play romantic roles, right? So he, you know, he kind of looks like kind of a pretty boy who's, uh, you know um, you know, who could, you know, be playing a Calvin Klein model or something, right? So for him to play Lex Luthor, she thought it was— he was miscast. And I, from her perspective, I agree with her. But I would also say that, uh, even if you look at the early test screening rumors, right, even, uh, the first set that came out that were negative they said the only thing good really about it, the only thing positive they had about the entire movie was Nicholas Hoult's portrayal as Lex Luthor, saying he did a knockout standout job. So, um, you know, unless Grace was, you know, familiar with those test screenings, she probably wouldn't have knew that. Um, you know, or maybe she did because she's an insider, right? It seems like Um, and so, uh, you know, but she said he was miscast and various things like that. Uh, and so a lot of people disagree with that, right? Um, a lot of people liked Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor. What else did she talk about? She was saying that then she kind of went into— it was too— I think it was just too bright, it was too CGI looking. She had a issue with the kaiju. Uh, the— how the Lantern Corps dress and such like that. And normally I would agree with Grace on those points, right? But I've gotten to the point with these Superman films that we've tried everything. We've tried the realistic Superman, you know, the Superman films, uh, when you get past, uh the Christopher Reeve Donner films, which was quite, uh, comic booky in, in nature itself, right? If you look at those films, right, and you see the kind of characters Lex Luthor portrays and his henchmen and so on, these are, these are very comic book-like people, right? And so we've tried everything, right? And those, those, of course, the Superman 1, Superman 2, maybe even Superman 3 worked. Right? Worked at the box office, worked with the, you know, with the fans, right? But when you, you know, after that, everything else we tried, it really didn't work. You try a realistic Superman, that didn't work. You try a grainy Superman, looks like Batman, that doesn't work. You try a darker Superman, you try a kind of mix between Christopher Reeve, and you kind of try to do that, but it, you know, it doesn't work. And in the 2000s, right, in the 21st century, right? And so, because, you know, because the fans have changed, right? So you can't, you know, and that's where Superman Returns failed, I think, because it tried to basically do a Christopher Reeve Superman film in 2006, right? So you go from 1978 to 2006, but there's a vast difference between 1978, 2006. Right? So the, the other thing Grace said was she said that, uh, oh, you know, James Gunn, she don't— she think the movie, the movie, the Superman Legacy movie might make $600-700 million, which to me that would be a failure, right? You know, that movie's got to do way better than that, right? It— this movie has to be a billion dollar movie to be successful. And when she said that, right, I couldn't tell if she was just saying that because she truly believed that, or if that was just, uh, you know, another, uh, strike at James Gunn, right, saying he's not going to succeed. Because the problem with saying Superman Legacy is only going to make $600 to $700 million is James Gunn did $700 to $800 million with the first Guardians of the Galaxy. He did $800 million with the second Guardians of the Galaxy. So what that means is that James Gunn took not even main characters, right? Remember, the Guardians of the Galaxy is like, uh, they're not A-listed superheroes. They're probably— I don't even know if they're B-listed superheroes, you know, before James Gunn even really, you know, put them on the screen. Uh, on average, people didn't know who Guardians of the Galaxy even was, right? We say they were kind of like the Avengers from Space or something, right? And get in the galaxies far, far away. So they— these are— these were never A-listers. These weren't your Captain Americas and Supermen and all that stuff, right? And he took these like B-list superheroes and he did $800 million, you know, and all that off of them. So for him not to be able to exceed that with everything right under this franchise of Superman and such, everything's going on. I kind of did feel like Grace just kind of pulled that out her, you know, just to, you know, hit at James Gunn. I could be wrong. I'm sorry, Grace, but I just don't, you know, think those numbers would make sense, right? Uh, what else, what else, what else did Grace say? I did, uh, cover the She, she had a problem with the kaiju. Okay, with just all of that comic booky more feel to it, uh, what some people refer to as the goofiness, right? The goofiness of James Gunn that somehow mysteriously works in his films. Um, um, yeah, you know, as I was saying, like the This is where the crossover, what I call the balance of the crossover between the comic book world and, you know, the live-action world meets, right? As to say, we've tried everything else. We've tried to make Superman too realistic and dark, which, you know, and so this colorful, kind of comic booky yet emotionally invested, so it might just be you know, the mix, right? I kind of think of like the Thor movies, right? You know, like if you look at a character like Thor, you know, when you think of it in, uh, plain terms, it could kind of feel ridiculous, right? That you kind of got these Norse gods running around and you're making a movie all about them taking place in their realms and stuff, right? And if you've never seen a movie like that you know, how we were like with the Thor movies, you know, you're, you're kind of like, I just don't know if this is going to work, right? And then it works because, you know, you go out outside the real world and you kind of go into their realms and their worlds. And even though it can seem fantastical, there are elements to it that ground you, right? And so somehow James Gunn's figure figured out how to do that. I don't know how. He's figured out how to do that, right? Um, and I believe it's going to work. So, but anyway, um, yeah, that's, that's kind of how I see things. And, and to the Snyder fans, you know, here's the thing, guys, right? You know, a lot of the Snyderverse people, you know, we, we seem to be wedged. And, uh, you know, because a lot of times the reason I say Snyderverse and then I think about James Gunn fans, because 'Cause a lot of times the people who have a problem with James Gunn taking over the helm, they have a problem with him because he took over the SnyderVerse, right? The SnyderVerse ended because, you know, James Gunn is running his new thing, right? And all that SnyderVerse thing's done. But here's the thing, to the SnyderVerse people, the people who, you know, want to see Henry Cavill, right? The thing, guys, is that the Snyderverse had its chance, right? You know, uh, we look over at Marvel, you know, Marvel's begging, uh, Chris Evans to come back as Captain America. They're constantly begging Robert Downey Jr. to come back. He's come back as, uh, Doctor Doom, right? So the reason that they beg these people to come back is because the fans vote with their wallets, right? What I'm saying is that for the people who are into the Snyderverse, you, you all had your chance, right? The fans didn't vote with their wallets, right, at the box office. And, and, and, and that lack of that vote by not going to see those movies, right, is What lost the opportunity for y'all to have Henry Cavill come back, for y'all to have the Snyderverse not still going, right? And that's just the reality that you had your chance. We have to face that right now. That's not James Gunn's fault. Now, if James Gunn gets in here and he makes over a billion dollars, which he's probably going to do, they're going to— DC is going to keep going with him. They're not going to cancel his characters. They're going to want him to keep going and him to keep coming up with stuff. Right? And I got a feeling that's exactly what's going to happen because he's doing something that's never been done before to Superman. He's introducing an element to this Superman world I don't think anybody else can do but him, right? And I'm not a diehard James Gunn fan. It's just this is where we're at with it, right? And this is the world we live in, uh, in a superhero translation to film world. And when we get complicated characters, right, Uh, you know, uh, you know, you gotta have talented writers and directors make that work, right? And we don't always know where they come from. And, um, you know, so you all have your preferences, you know, with the Snyderverse and Man of Steel, and, and they should be respected, your opinion, to have them. But to say that, you know, to somehow infer that James Gunn fans are more toxic than Snyderverse fans um, if that's what, you know, is trying to happen, that, that just isn't what it is, right? You know, we got people on both sides that are terrible, but in the end, the reason I think the SnyderVerse is worse is simply because I feel like the SnyderVerse was, was already given ample opportunity to succeed, and because it failed, uh, I just feel like the SnyderVerse You know, you kind of lost your talking points when it failed, right? Because the fans didn't come out and support it enough for it to have the validity to stand on some of the points that a lot of people from the SnyderVerse are making, right? But those are just my thoughts and opinions about it. Again, everybody, please be respectful. Don't attack people's opinions. Just share them respectfully. This is why you believe what you believe. But with Grace Randolph and James Gunn, apparently there's a lot of ugly back and forth that was already happening before the James Gunn fans even said, you know, even came after Grace. And, uh, so it's been set up for it to get ugly with them, right? And of course the fans get drawn in. But, uh, all in all, I like Grace. I'm going to continue to watch her reviews. I think that they're great. Uh, I just don't like, uh, any personal involvement with the article she's critiquing, right? The material she's critiquing, because that's difficult for any reviewer to do. You know, if I don't like the creator personally of something and I don't want to see them succeed, right? They insulted me, they were nasty to me. I may not want to see them succeed, right? So I don't know if I'm going to be able to give them a fair review or not, right? And we don't know that either. But, um, you know, anyway, um, I like Grace, obviously. I like James Gunn. I like Zack Snyder. But it's all about how we, you know, how we move in this, you know, in this industry on the proper way to review things, uh, you know, uh, you know, as such. And, uh, you know, what the numbers say, what the data was, and all that has to be taken into account. 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