Superman Works In Gunnverse but Why?

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Welcome back to the channel, guys. I hope you're having a great evening. So you're probably wondering, like, why are we watching a video clip of Gen V, right? If you don't know what Gen V is, uh, Gen V is, uh, basically the superhero university, right? Um, that, uh, is the part of the, the, the Boys universe, right? We're talking about superhero villains like Homelander and the Deep and A-Train and so on, right? And of course, we'll talk about the, uh, it's the spin-off of The Boys television series comic book that is kind of like this dark humor caricature parody of superheroes like Superman, Batman, and so on. So, um, the reason I'm bringing all this up is because Trying to figure out why this James Gunn version of Superman, despite a lot of criticism it gets that, uh, honestly I have to agree with, uh, some of it, um, that's coming from all sides of the Superman, uh, mythos and fandom, uh, at the same time I have to say that it not only does it work It holds my interest and it's quite interesting, right? And we're going to get into that a little bit today on this video. Why does this Superman James Gunn universe work, you know, with the surrounding elements that are coming to the DC Universe? Why? Why does it just work even though it is so foreign and so out there for some of us who are along the very more so traditional superhero comic book genre. Okay, so let's get into why it does work. What is going on here? So what we've seen is the emergence of rated R dark humor comic book movies, television shows, right? This audience has become quite interested in that, right? And I guess some of the origins of that could possibly be— I guess maybe it started with Deadpool when you kind of put it at rated R, kind of dark comedy, kind of interesting superhero universe where he can associate himself with, which would be more serious characters. But at the same time, you know, the Deadpool movies are quite interesting, right? They hold our attention. They're probably— they probably hold the attention of children, hold the attention of adults. And so it works, right? Um, now James Gunn isn't really, I guess you would say, so he's kind of known for the interesting kind of dark humor a bit. I wouldn't necessarily say that James Gunn is known for, uh, rated R type content, but I could see where he could do it and it could work. And the reason I say that, especially on the violence level and the violence scale, is because I think the Suicide Squad, you know, when it comes to the violence and the gore and stuff like that, it teeters on that line. And it is a quite interesting take on the characters of superheroes, right? These are your, you know, oftentimes you're, of course, when you're dealing with the Suicide Squad, you know, you're basically dealing with the criminal element, right, of this superhero world. These aren't the characters that are, you know, heroic or anything like that. These are the flawed characters. These are the villains. These are the complicated characters who have found themselves in these problems for various reasons. Now, I'm saying all this to say this. Whatever you think about the new Superman James Gunn universe. What is clear is that this type of storytelling, this direction, is interesting to a lot of people, right? I know it's not necessarily on brand with Superman, right? Um, you know, a diehard Superman fan like me, especially coming out of the Donnerverse, uh, nothing like that, right? Uh, although it's many homages, of course, James Gunn paid to that, which I liked, right? It's probably— I would imagine he's probably gonna do more of that in the future, and I think that's gonna work too. I guess what I'm trying to say, guys, is James Gunn's depiction of the DC Universe allows for a character like Superman to, to, to move in and out of it, right? To kind of be standalone-ish, but at the same time, kind of like how Deadpool does, right? But in the reverse, right? And it's all very interesting. I think there are a few things that, you know, as I've said in earlier videos, right, there are a few things that James Gunn could do a bit differently, you know, as far as his focus on Superman. See, I don't think his focus needs to be on Superman. I'm finding the most interesting things with James Gunn is the people who surround Superman, like whether it be characters like Peacemaker, uh, you know, even during the Superman film, which I did like, but I liked it because of the involvement of the other superheroes, characters as such as well. That played a big part of it, right? Um, if it would have been just a solo Superman film, um, how James Gunn put this together, his world is a great deal more interesting, uh, when it's dealing with a lot of characters, right? That's just what it is, guys. Uh, I think I was at a point with the Superman mythos where, you know, I was ready for the Superman story to move on a little bit because, see, you know, you know, being a kind of an OG in the Superman world, going way back to the Christopher Reeves, uh, Superman, uh, I've seen all of the standalone Superman movies. I've seen all of the incarnations of Superman, the origin stories, and some have been irreplaceable and some have been pretty darn close or just as good, and some to me have just been downright horrible. But the bottom line is I'm at a point I've seen enough of them where I don't need to see— even though I'm the biggest Superman fan out there, I'm ready to see Superman team up and deal with other characters, other heroes, like he does in the Justice League. Unlimited series and so on, right? So I'm okay with that. I'm ready to move Superman along to that future. I don't need to see a whole DC Universe reboot, you know. I don't need to see them got to tell every person who comes on the screen their stories like the Marvel formula. I don't think they need it. I think James Gunn uh, just needs to move it along. Uh, you know, there— we've seen so many, uh, reboots with these Superman films already that I just don't think we would need anything more along those lines, right? The, the other thing is, um, guys, um, so, you know, to reference back to— so we're referencing here What would be Home— I'm sorry, The Boys, uh, what would be Deadpool, these rated R properties, right, that are becoming commonplace now. And we're learning to, you know, be okay with that now from an economic standpoint. A lot of people would say, well, the reason that you wouldn't do that is because you're gonna block that demographic of the 13 to 17-year-olds who are going to spend a lot of money at the box office, right? Uh, but for some reason that doesn't seem to hurt Deadpool, does it, right? Deadpool still gets around a billion dollars. I mean, and I think they've realized that to the point where a lot of them don't care. Uh, the reason that this Superman works, and, um, you know, a lot of people who are still against it, I would just, you know, ask you to just, you know, take a moment, take a breather, step back, and, and really take a look at this thing. That if this is the type of superheroes— we can't say it doesn't interest us because I'm sitting up there looking at these dark humor superhero, you know, starting with something like The Boys, Homelander, you know, to the public he puts on the face like he's, uh, the, uh, typical, uh Superman-type hero, right? But then, of course, he has all these problems and issues and sociopathic tendencies behind the scenes, right? And that's playing into that dark, humorous, troubling, rated-R superhero fandom category. Now, what James Gunn is managing to do interesting with this the character of Superman himself doesn't fit into that world per se. He's navigating in the world, uh, in a world where he's in these, um, troublesome worlds, but he remains the same in himself. And that is quite possible. This is the James Gunn direction, and it works, right? It does work because it doesn't change Superman at all. You know, Superman doesn't try to pretend to be a dark version of himself. And that is, it has always been the problem with us in the Snyderverse, that we felt that Superman pretend to be this brooding, dark Batman-like DC character, uh, and not the Boy Scout Superman. Whereas James Gunn didn't make that mistake. He's still the Boy Scout, he's still the do-gooder, and he just happens to be in all of these worlds whether it comes out being a dark humor rated R film or whether it just, you know, it comes out to be a, you know, one of these James Gunn type universes that are on a level of like your Guardians of the Galaxy type thing. Superman remains the same. He just happens to find himself there. And for some reason that works. Now, of course, if you're Superman and the idea purist, you're probably not going to like all of these You know, this is something quite different, uncomfortable. But I have to say that a lot of the world is moving to these darker universes, whereas the characters aren't necessarily dark, right? Remember in The Boys series, there are those classic superheroes that exist in this very dark world, but they don't change, right? Although the world they live in is a complicated world. Their world, I mean, who they are is set in stone, and they, you know, are that type of hero, right? Um, that's why I believe the James Gunn Superman works, right? Let me know if you agree with me, because, you know, after watching the Superman movie, I felt like many of you all. I was like, nah, this isn't really it. And even though this wasn't a terrible movie and I rather enjoyed it, it wasn't a perfect Superman movie. I didn't think it checked all the boxes. And although Superman felt like Superman, you know, the world he was in didn't. It certainly felt like a James Gunn universe, right? But I like James Gunn universes, right? I like everything he did with Creature Commandos. I like everything he's done with The Peacemaker. I like all the Suicide Squad stuff. All that stuff works for me. So to put a Superman in that world and how he does it, it just works. Now, how does he make it work? It's some type of genius of James Gunn that I can see why they gave him the mantle, right? I can honestly see why. And I don't think anybody else could do that. I, I think if they don't stop James Gunn right? Like, if they don't pull a Zack Snyder-verse type thing where they just stop the universe and they just go, well, this isn't going to make any money— and I don't think they're going to do that. I think they're going to hang this out with James Gunn because I think they're going to— they're now at a point like, how many of these people can we go through to get this right? You know, James Gunn is close enough, let's stick with him. And I believe if they stick with James Gunn, I believe James Gunn is going to get so much better with this he is going to catch up with this audience, and this audience is gonna catch up to him, right? And it's gonna meld together. And I have no doubt that's gonna happen with James Gunn. Um, and then it's all I'm gonna say in this particular video, guys. Let me let you— let me know what you all think about this. Like, does it— did it— does it work for you, as strange as it may seem? Far from the traditional ideas of Superman? Why does it— if it does work for you, why does it work for you? And, um, you know, um, if it doesn't work for you, I, I can only say give it a chance. Give it a few more James Gunn movies. A lot of us believe with the Supergirl movie it's gonna go that Deadpool route. It's probably gonna be a rated R movie, and that's gonna be interesting, right? That's going to be interesting because think about it, that's a good direction to go in. Because if you did a traditional Supergirl movie, right, you know, of course we know it's not going to hit the numbers. It wasn't going to hit the numbers like, um, a, a regular Superman movie, right? And so you'd be doing that movie, why exactly? But going, doing it this direction, introducing a complex Supergirl in a rated R world, a revenge story, a samurai story, so to speak. Um, it's— I think it's gonna be so interesting and so different from what we're used to seeing that a lot of people are gonna get a lot out of that. But that's all I'm gonna say in this particular video, guys. If you like content like this, don't forget to like, subscribe to the channel, share it, share it with your friends, other Superman fans.

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