Can You Really Turn Stress into Joy with This Ancient Technique?

Well, they did this study, I think it's 700 salamanders. What they would do, they'd cut up the salamanders and take its brain out, slice and dice it, ground it up, whatever. They did a bunch of different things and they would put the salamander's brain back into the salamander and the salamander would function.

How do I listen when I'm not using an amplifier like that?

So again, it's your conscious mind is really strong, right? And you're used to listening to those loud voices in your mind. And so for you, it's gonna be a little bit of practice and just testing on simple stuff. Like we did on the sushi restaurant. I was like, hey, where do you wanna eat? Mas?

Masa. And then I remember, and later I was like, oh, I don't know if I can trust that because we got in a fight at that restaurant. So what if that's like my no? And you're like, It's been working so far. Listen, I'm like, so I'm still trying to like dismiss it.

Well, and it also brings up a little bit of the complexity of our psyche. So Masa, you love the food and you actually do physiologically want to go back again, but you also had a bad overwhelming emotional memory of where you got in a big fight and then triggered your fearful abandonment. You're going to be left and because Eric's upset at you and, you know, Well, so it's a complex memory, but you listen and trust your body, and it did want, like it does want to go back there, and I think you guys can go without fighting. Yeah. Without threatening divorce and all the things, right, that we do. But so just, I'd say for you, it's like, all right, so what we did is we did muscle testing, and I asked you a question, and I think for your yes, it was your body wanted to lean backwards. Eric's was leaning forward, if I remember correctly. Your no is leaning forward. So like even my wife, we've done it on like tequila. Do I want some tequila? And if you're like, yes I do, or no I don't. And so it could be a vacation, or do I want to do this partnership, a business partnership? Do I want to have this guest on? Do I want to go here for a vacation? Like my wife just did a little muscle testing on the switch from going to LA to Miami. On Friday. So she's going there with a girlfriend, and there's another girlfriend down there. And so, but your body knows. And so like, the thing that is hard for us in our rational Western mind is like, our intelligence is far beyond what we think. It's actually in our nervous system, what we feel, and even in the quantum realm. I don't fully understand it all, but in the quantum realm, it's like goes Like, one of my favorite examples in The Field, have you read The Field?

We have it downstairs, I've not opened it.

Mind-blowing. Well, they did this study, and this is on like 700, I think it's 700 salamanders. What they would do, they'd cut up the salamanders, cut up, take its brain out, slice and dice it, ground it up, whatever, they did a bunch of different things, and they would put the salamander's brain back into the salamander, and the salamander would function. It was still working and operate. Even if they sliced it up, even if they ground it like ground beef, like sausage, as long as the brain was still back in there, the salamander could go and do its thing. And it was because, and they can measure like a holographic image and the energy back to that energetic magnetic resonance was still in. Now that's a simpler creature than, I wouldn't recommend that study on humans or apes or whatever, probably wouldn't work. But because the energy and the holographic energy was still in there, I don't understand it all, but in the quantum realm, you know, our vibration— when I see in the work, like my client that I mentioned in D.C. who's on the edge of burnout— was we raised her energetic vibration. She just called me on Monday and we talked for the first time in a week or two, and she's like, Mike, you won't believe what happened. She just secured an agreement with a national government in Africa, like a massive deal that she has equity and she gets paid a very substantial amount. And then she secured another, uh, opportunity. Like, her, her career has just blown up in 45 days. Wow. But it was because her— she was in a vibration of suffering, and then we raised her vibration up to joy. And what if, what if, like, like, you had some suffering in your body? Eric had some suffering and some fear Fear is a lower vibration. Have you seen the David Hawkins maps of consciousness? So my wife, I noticed like as we moved up her scale in the depression battle, she went from the lowest vibration, which is shame and guilt, to anger. And I'm like, well, at least she's not depressed anymore, but she's angry about everything. The food system and guns, gun violence in America, whatever. Angry at me. I'm like, At least she's not depressed. And then as she kept going up, then she got to courage, then she got to neutrality and acceptance, and now she can access love and joy so much more freely. Me too, I went up in my vibration as I healed and released. I, I like to describe it as like we're dropping off bags of bricks. Like last night, you dropped off some emotional bags of bricks that you've been carrying. Eric dropped off some. Now you're gonna feel so much lighter. Doesn't mean we got to everything we needed to. There's more. But like, I feel light as a feather now.

So how do you know if you or a client would need, like when they're, I guess, is there a complete or complete enough?

Yeah, complete enough. I would say we're, I had a client, Lisa, she gave me a testimonial video as well about it. She almost died in pregnancy. And so her nervous system for 15 years— I met her at a mastermind we're in, and I met her and her husband same evening. And I put my hand on her shoulders, just as a friendly, like, you know, I'm kind of physically affectionate. I put my hand on her shoulders and her— and she's a 5-foot-1 Asian lady. I was like, Lisa, your shoulders are rock hard. Like, are you like a powerlifter? What are you? She's And she's like, no, I just had a lot of crazy shit happen in my life. I was like, oh, okay. And so that was a signal. I was like, oh, I'm looking for clues. And I was like, Lisa, so tell me about that shit that happened. She's like, well, I almost died giving childbirth 15 years ago. My brother died the same year. JM and I got separated for a while during that year. And she just felt so alone, so scared, so abandoned. Her nervous system got rigid and got frozen and been locked on. Back to like your amygdala can get locked in and you can just be in fight or flight or freeze mode for years or decades. And she was very frozen. Well, I was like, okay, I can help you get unstuck if you want. And so her and her husband flew up to Nashville. We did a session. Literally by the end of the session, she starts jumping around the room. I feel like a boiled carrot. I'm so loose and flexible. I was like, yes, you are. And then a couple weeks later, she gets a massage from a massage therapist, one she's seen for years. He's like, Lisa, what happened to you? Your body's so less tense than it was. Like, I saw Magic Mike and he helped me. He helped me release a lot of my trauma. And then I flew down and did a session with them at the end of May. And then the session, I was like, Lisa, Because, you know, I go through and ask your body, what does it want to release? What's stored in there? What, what is overwhelming? What is scary? Once we get your conscious mind to relax and your subconscious to speak. And I went through like 2, 2 more memories, and, and she was good. And then I anchored her to a positive one at the end, her higher self. And this was like fun, playful Lisa. And I was like, Lisa, I think you're complete. I don't think we need any more. I mean, she might maybe do one a year from now as a recalibration, but I think, I think she's good. So some, some heavier cases, like I have one case that's gonna be 3 sessions. Um, I have another, another scenario where it's another couple that, that, man, massive amounts of abuse, and they're prominent leaders in their space. The guy's the top YouTuber in the world and is on his platform, and, um, it's probably gonna be 2 or 3 at least with them. Um, but a lot of clients, it's 1 or 2, and we're good. Wow.

And even that, that seems like not a lot. No, not a lot at all.

Yeah, I mean, we recalibrated my wife's whole nervous system in basically 7 months from suicidal, not wanting to be— every day she would say, I don't want to be alive, I don't want to be a mom, I don't want to be on Earth almost every day and have panic attacks 3 to 5 times a week. And 7 months later, basically depression fully gone, 90% of PTSD gone, and panic attacks— haven't had one since.

It's so powerful. Yeah, which makes me so, so pissed that it still hasn't been pushed through. Like, how many lives this could save? And not even just the individuals taking it, but if you consider the family and the lineage, right, and all of those roots, like how many lives you're saving.

Oh, heck yeah. The marriages, like, I have a lot of leaders that I've worked with where their marriages have been on the rock. I had one client, Julia, she came to me. Actually, I met her at that same event I met Lisa, and she was literally physically in the middle of a conversation with a divorce attorney who was in the group too. And she's trying to— she was separated from her husband for 6 months at that point. I was like, well, Julia, I have another option for you. She flew up to Nashville early in March. We did a session. 2 hours after the session, she sends me a text. She's like, Mike, I just had the best conversation I've ever had with my husband. The best conversation I've ever had alive, period. I love that man. I love that man. I asked him to teach me how to love. I have no idea how to love. And she let go of 9 years. She said she let go of 9 years of bitterness and resentment.

Wow.

And they've since— and then also, we— she, she verbally talked through her business challenges because she was only— not only in a marriage crisis, she was in a— she's CEO and owner of her business, and they had some massive problems to solve. Well, she talked through all of them, um, and we kind of worked on a game plan while we were— because it's— this creates a gateway for accessing your higher self. So it's not just to heal the trauma, I want to access your higher self like we did at the end last night too. So it's not a traditional pure therapy type deal because in my background is like, I don't want to just get you unstuck, I want you at your best. And, and as of less than 3 months, um, from that session, totally solved her business crisis. Like where she was like, I'm gonna lose the business, to now it's fully solved. And, and it wouldn't have happened if we didn't process through the heaviness And because her, again, also her amygdala was locked in, so she's in fight or flight. You, you can't access the other parts of your brain if your amygdala is locked in. And most of the time, and we just also, you look at, uh, what we went through as a culture with COVID and everything, our amygdalas get locked in. We need to release and reset.

Mhm. So do you think part of it, it's kind of like that Einstein theory where it's like the energy that created the problem can't solve the problem? So you You have to get to a different level of consciousness.

100%. 100%. And so the medicine, yes, you're not going to be in this permanently heart-open, vulnerable state. What's going to happen is you've created a new option. It's like you're going down a highway and there's a new exit ramp. And at the beginning, there's only like a McDonald's and a Shell gas station, right? But the exit ramp to stress and anxiety has a lot of stuff. It's got an outlet mall, it's got all the restaurants, it's got a bunch of hotels. You're really familiar with that. You will bypass at times the pleasure, joy, peace exit ramp, heart connection ramp. You'll go to the stress ramp. But now, hopefully the next few days, next few weeks, you're gonna access this other ramp, this exit, a lot more, and you'll start building more stuff. And that will become more and more familiar that after one session, that whole— they don't even go down the suffering, right? So, um, but it just depends on which environment you put yourself back into and your life patterns. If your life patterns reinforce stress and anxiety, then we have to also un-re-pattern those while we're re-patterning your nervous system. Otherwise, you're just going to go right back into stress and anxiety. So if that makes sense.

No, it does. I think that's why this morning I was trying to be so intentional to the point where I was like, maybe I'm just going to get ready in silence because I know, again, because of my reaction last night, that there's like I'm behaving in a way or setting my life up in such a way that is exhausting. And I need to figure out how to get rid of all of that noise so that I can use these benefits. Yeah, for the long term.

Yeah. And your body, you're like, it's remarkable what it— the body intelligence, it wants to lead you to healing. Like your Graves' disease and thyroid, the emotional elements, it wants to lead you to joy. You know, your higher self wants to lead you to that. And you are trusting and you are doing exactly— you're being curious and open and exploring, and you're going to get there.

Um, I wanted to get a little bit more clarity with the body muscle testing.

Yeah, yeah.

So if someone's never done this before, can you walk me through how you find your yes and your no, and then just like the protocol of asking your body?

Yeah, yeah. So a simple process for muscle testing. First, I'm going to guide people to a little bit of breath work. And in this visualization, after like say 4 rounds of the 4, 4, 4, 4, 4 seconds, uh, exhale, leave empty for 4 seconds, breathe into your nose for 4 seconds, hold for 4 seconds. It's Andrew Weil's breath method. Then that helps your nervous system kind of get back, helps you get back into your body a little bit. Not everyone can do just that alone, but then I lead to a visualization where you're talking to your conscious mind and your subconscious mind at a table. You express gratitude, and that's a big thing because then you want the different parts of you to see and to feel seen, acknowledged, and heard. And so that's why we did that multiple times. And so those— your conscious mind, we want your conscious mind to relax. So it's not going to relax if it doesn't feel seen and appreciated. And then I also reminded verbally, very intentionally, with phrasing of like, let your conscious mind know that it is okay to relax, that she will still be fully present and she can come back in if needed, which she did a couple times. But then we let her relax again. And let your subconscious mind speak. And then we do the muscle test after the breathwork and after the visualization and after you've made a conscious or unconscious agreement in your nervous system. And then we ask a simple yes or no question. It has to be a yes or no question because otherwise your body gets confused. And I like to start with something easy, like what's your favorite food or favorite restaurant? All right, would you like to eat there sometime in the next 2 weeks? And then see which way your body wants to lean forward. If it's yes, and if your favorite restaurant is, yes, you would like to eat there next 2 weeks and your body leans forward, then your forward is yes. Double-check it, do it once or twice. But if your body leans back on the thing that you know you really want, like, hey, would you like a beautiful massage in the next 2 weeks? That someone else pays for, whatever. Yeah, great. Then, and that's lean back, then that's your yes. Okay, some people have backwards as yes and some is front. And then you can start going to specific questions, but the goal is to get you to listen to your body because it's a massive— it's actually more of a communication channel than your mind. In fact, also your heart communicates. I don't remember the exact data. I think it's like 7 times more information to your brain than your brain communicates to your heart. So your body is also sending so much information up to your brain. But if we cut off that channel, we're cutting off a massive source of information, of intuitive intelligence that is beyond our rational mind.

So you're— it tends to be locked in.

So if you're front, then yeah, more than likely it's going to be the same. And that's— there's other methodologies, but that's the best, best.

So mine will probably always be back, more than likely.

Yeah.

Do you find, um, because Eric's was forward and mine was back, is there a difference between the sexes? Do you, or typically, or no, it can go 50/50?

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah.

Yeah.

I was like, huh, I wonder if it's because like lead follow.

Yeah, who knows?

Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah.

But yeah, it was really cool. I'm like, I want to do this with a lot of things.

Yeah.

Um, so you'll have Eric help me.

And, and one thing too for you guys is parents. The other thing that I would encourage you guys that I'm practicing and learning myself, and I know you're, you're in the Gabriel Mate book on it as well, but like you can help your kids, your boys develop some of that body intelligence and awareness. So because what happens is in life is if you project out 20 years, if I lead a life that is disconnected from my body, I'm going to get into relationships, partnerships, agreements patterns that my body really doesn't want because I've been disconnected. And we've all done that, right? But now, as you— as we become more whole and more integrated, then we can pass that on to our children and also help them learn how to emotionally self-regulate and be heart-connected. Like, your, your children, you know, up to age 7, your children are in a hypnotic state, alpha wave. And so, like, you can be really intentional about basically programming their nervous system. And they're still very pliable as they get older too.

So is there a way, like, do men need to be grounded similar to women, or is it like, what is their version of grounding?

Yeah, and I would label it even more masculine, feminine, because there are some more feminine men.

Yeah, that's true.

And, but not really. Like, if you put your hands on, Eric's shoulders, he's gonna be like, "Okay." He's not gonna feel anything. Like, I've literally gone to a man and he's like, "Okay." And he just literally doesn't feel anything. And a woman, I go right over to a feminine woman and she's like, "I just felt everything calm down like you did." And, but it is important for us to be grounded and out of our head. Like, we men, we get stuck in our head. Women did too, but I was— so I need to move into my heart. And so that's where the heart coherence exercise is really important. That's where also cultivating, whether it's MDMA— MDMA is the easiest, most effective, most powerful, fast-acting. You have to do it safely and, and make sure it's pure and all that. But for men, that really helps us get heart connected and grounded in our heart. But also I'd do grounding like outside too, you know, like barefoot. I did that this morning, and last night I did that some too while I was working with you guys.

Yeah, I try to do that with, with my oldest, but he's going through this weird sock obsession to where he even wears them to the pool. He does not wear them in the pool. Yeah, thank God. Um, they're always on, and I'm like, we are grounding right now. It's a family exercise. Everyone's taking their shoes shoes and socks off, get in the car.

Yeah, yeah.

And now he's kind of doing it and he's loosening up on the sock thing, but I had to like fight tooth and nail for that one.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm like, oh my gosh, this is not okay, it's gonna turn into something weird. I don't want to do that. Oh yeah, I want to play with that, um, that body testing with them though later and like have them do that heart exercise and see. That'll be fun.

Yeah, yeah. And you can see, you can test on foods, you can test on trips. I mean, there's so many books, whatever, anything, games they want to play, whatever. Yeah.

Amazing.