Emma Hemming & Helen Cristoni: This is Why Women Are More Prone to Brain Fog and Memory Loss

There's so much attention that's given to physical health. Right. So what are some sign and symptoms that you guys recognize from poor brain health?

I mean, for me, first and foremost was. Was brain fog and, you know, fatigue. Just not feeling good in my body. Like, there was something going on.

If you're putting too much stress on your brain and if you have too much stress in your life, you overload and you forget about things. Sometimes you just need to give your brain break, you know, and, like, listen to really what you need and, like, see how you're behaving.

And so hence our name, Make Time.

Yeah, I mean, you know, like, so making time for your brain health and just paying attention, like, once you're aware, you really start to understand, like, what is affecting your brain health and what you need to do to support it.

Emma Heming Willis and Helen Crestoni, thank you so much. Founders of an incredible brand called Make Time. I'm so happy to have you on the podcast today.

Thank you for having us.

We're really excited to be here.

The timing of getting the email from your team is just, like, so in sync with 1. What's happening right down right now, like, women's hormones are finally given a place in media, but there's such a dark lens that's placed over it. And when I was doing more reading about your brand, there's just something that's so positive and uplifting and motivating around how you can nourish the body instead of trying to fix something. Something. So before we dive into all of that, you guys should know this podcast is. It's all about, you know, becoming rooted in ancient wisdom and this inner wisdom that we all have to heal. We have this inner wisdom within us to step into our best self, our happiness, and our own capacity to heal our bodies. So I'm curious with you guys, what's one or two things that helps you really feel rooted in your life?

You know, for me, it's really about community. Being close to a community that I can connect with and also my family. For me, that's sort of what brings me back and helps ground me. You know, I can. I tend to be a little bit overwhelmed, and I know that's when I sort of need to root myself back is like family first, my community, very important.

Did you grow up with community?

You know, I didn't, and I think I was really. I didn't realize that I needed a community around me until all of a sudden, I really needed it, so I didn't have community.

Yeah.

A single child, and my mom is a single parent. I'm an only child. And, you know, we were just kind of, like, in it to win it by ourselves.

Yeah, I love that you said that, because I feel like such a core value at the ashram, when I went to heal was the fact that I was living in community with other people the way that we used to. What about you, Helen?

I think for me, really, it's going outside, like, being in nature, because so much of my time is spent, like, in meetings and, you know, in a business setting. It's very important to me that I get outside every day. And then I think also connection, you know, just making sure that I'm connecting with my family, connecting with my friends and my husband is super important.

So on the flip side, then, do you notice when you get uprooted? I find that when I'm working with a lot of my clients, the way that wellness, especially. Especially in Los Angeles. Right. You know, do the green juice get outside? Do your biohacking, do this? They're treating all the things that should help them root as a checklist, and sometimes it uproots them. It's like they're not even tapping into the wisdom that's happening. Do you notice when you get uprooted or what are some things that cause you to get uprooted?

100%. I think that, you know, really, you know, we're fed by media, this list of all the things that you need to do to be healthy. And so I think a lot of people get caught up in, you know, I have to take a glutathione, or I. Which there's nothing wrong with glutathione, but, like, I have to take this, like, list of things to.

To be.

Have more wellness or. Or to feel better. And, you know, for me, like, I'm an avid athlete. Like, I do a lot of running, and I get a little. Like, sometimes you can overdo it. Like, I. I put a lot of pressure on myself to, like, maybe work out a little too much and that sort of thing. So I think just balance is key, for sure.

Yeah.

What about you, Emma?

Yeah, I mean, it's. Again, I'm so easily overwhelmed, and I think I put so many things on my schedule as well. Like, I'm so heavily scheduled with work and family and kids, and I don't really realize how all of that sort of getting in my way. So not that it's getting in my way, it's just that I overdo it. So, you know, for me, I also Think like wellness has become so. It's like, it's almost like unreachable. It's like this.

Yeah.

And there's something that becomes so complicated where I just think it's really about simplifying.

Absolutely.

Just to kind of really looking into yourself and really thinking like, what, what do I need? Like, stop with this outside noise, like hush the noise and really focus on you and, and what you're lacking and what you need.

Yeah.

A lot of times when I'm working with my clients, there's like this healthy addiction to being a type and getting things done. And like it feels really good. Right. But it's so easy. And even working in this industry, guiding people to mindfulness practices and stuff like that, it can feel so good for me to be in that uprooted until I burn out. Do you find that you can catch yourself before you get to that point? Are you better at that now?

Right now for me, I'm really working on it.

Yeah.

You know, and so I think that I'm one of those kind of like triple type A. I love being ambitious. It's a really big part of my personality. I love working, I love everything that we do. And so like the season I'm in, currently I'm having to really work on catching myself because it's easy for me just to, you know, it feels good, you know, so I have to like stop myself and try and make a conscious effort to bring it down a little bit.

Yeah. I mean, I think same. I think what was so beautiful about when we started the brand and we were really getting into the name and like all the layers of it and what it means, you know, learning to make time. We just don't make time. We're so over scheduled. We're doing so many things and I think I've really looked at that and. And have I. I think I've done a pretty good job of knowing, like, you know, I'm putting too much stuff on my schedule. I need to like pull it back. This can wait a week. Like prioritizing things so that I can learn to make more time for me again. I don't know how many times I can say that. I get overwhelmed.

I keep saying that, but I get.

So overwhelmed and I know that about myself. Yeah. So it's like, what do I do to not get to that? Oh gosh, like, you know, you just need to like buffer some things in and have some time and make time and that for me that has been game changing.

Yeah. I feel like anxiety was my Blueprint growing up, but it's just very familiar to me. But there's something so refreshing with aging as a woman, where it's like, oh, I don't have to be like that anymore. Like, it can actually feel really different. And we'll talk more about. I think there's something magical about when a woman really comes into her power in us. And I know that we've had moments collectively when we do less, we can accomplish more and feel better in our bodies. Right.

Yeah.

That concept of flow. Right. So as the founders of Make Time Wellness, I'm curious, you know, was there an aha moment when you knew you had to turn passion into a brand and advocates?

Yeah, I think for me, it started with an incredible amount of brain fog. It started happening a few years ago, and I had taken it to my doctor, and my doctor said, oh, you know what, Emma, you're busy, mom. You know, you have a lot of stress in your life. You know, all the things. And. And I was like, so, like, brain fog is normal. It's fine. It's gonna pass. Like, you'll. It'll be okay. And there was just something that was telling me, like, this can't be right. Like, my brain used to function well, and now I'm just, like, walking into rooms. I don't know why I'm walking into rooms. Like, I'm just not functioning on all cylinders. So I ended up finding a brain health doctor who introduced me to the term of brain health, which I had never heard before, which I find wild, because, you know, I'm pretty up to date on wellness, and brain health was just something that was not on my radar. And through lifestyle change and a fistful of vitamins and, you know, all of these things that he presented to me, I really started to see a shift and a change, and I started to feel better. The downside side of it was that I was taking a fistful of vitamins every day, multiple times a day. And I said to Helen, I was like, you know, I am seeing such a difference. Things are. Things are working. But I would love to be able to take all these things that I'm taking and make a drink. And Helen was like, oh, that's my wheelhouse. We can totally do that. And that's how maketime Wellness was born.

Incredible. And, you know, would you say that. Did you have a personal connection prior to meeting Emma to issues around brain health yourself?

Oh, yeah, 100%. I mean, my grandmother had dementia, also, my stepmother had dementia. And so we.

It's.

It's in my family. And seeing my nana, you know, as she got older with dementia, really left a mark on me, you know, because she was very special to me. And when I started looking into it, you know, and Emma and I had this conversation, and I just started looking at the space. It's just everything was speaking to men, and there was really like every. All the packaging on shelf and the formulas and everything was just such a male conversation. And, you know, when. When she brought it up to me, like, I had that aha moment. Like, there's just no one having this conversation with women. So it's been really, really. It's been a really great path to bring this forward.

It's funny that, you know, when we go to our doctors, oh, it's so common. It's so common. Like, that's supposed to make things okay. Right. And to your point about the supplements and the fact, like, this is an amazing industry that so much education is given, what I really love about your approach is that you're really talking to. Paying attention to the root cause. Yeah, right. Which a lot of doctors do not do, especially from a woman's perspective, and are shifting hormones. And there's so much attention that's given to physical health. Right. But not brain health as its own entity. Right. And it's like, if I wasn't mistaken, it's our heart, our brain, the two, like, most incredible organs that we should be given more attention to. Right. So what are some sign and symptoms that you guys recognize from poor brain health?

I mean, for me, first and foremost was. Was brain fog and, you know, fatigue. Just not feeling good in my body. Like, there was something going on. And my approach now is when I think about my brain first, the rest of my body benefits. And that has been such a simple shift because actually looking after your brain is not that complicated. It's very obtainable.

Yeah.

What about you? Did you have issues with brain health?

I mean, yeah, for sure. Like, you know, when. And. And now I realize more than ever, if you're putting too much stress on your brain and if you have too much stress in your life, you overload and you forget about things. You're not on top of your stuff. You feel like you're underneath things and on top of things. And sometimes you just need to give your brain a break, you know, and, like, listen to really what you need and, like, see how you're behaving.

And hence our name, make time.

Yeah, I mean, you know, like, so making time for your brain health and just paying attention, like, once you're aware, you really start to understand, like, what is affecting your brain health and what you need to do to support it.

You know what I love just to add, our older daughter, Mabel. She's 12 and she's at a new school. And what they do in middle school is that they schedule and brain breaks for these kids.

Come on.

Yeah, that's incredible. Every day there is a brain break where, you know, they just get to. We all need. I'm like, can I come over for the brain break?

Seriously, can I schedule that?

I mean, I do schedule that in, but. But I just thought like, you know, this is now crossing over, which is so nice to, you know, like, our younger demographic who now understand the importance of these breaks, like, we do get so overloaded and especially these kids as well, that there's so much rigor in school and stim. There just needs to be some balance. And I love that the school is doing that for them.

I said this a lot on this podcast, but can you imagine the impact if we were taught how to care for our bodies and our brain from, you know, being a little kid? My gosh, the difference, like, you have to take five minutes a day. Non negotiable if you want this thing, this gift that we get one of. Right. The difference in how we would evolve. And for me, I'll never forget one I shared with you around the time when I was going up, when I was on beta blocker medication. I would not be surprised. Like, it felt like black smoke was just inside my head. I could not see straight. I became lethargic and dull. And again, doctors are like, oh, it's normal. It's a part of it. It's a side effect. You know, deal with it.

Is that because you were taking it daily?

I was taking it every day, yeah. Because the intention was to slow down my heart rate for when I would go into these tachycardia, tachycardia episodes. But it dulled my entire body being completely. That's why I ended up gaining weight and that's why I went for the heart surgeries. Right. As a plan B. But then again, doctors and even as women, we don't really talk to each other about, hey, when you have kids, here's what's going to happen afterwards. Right after my daughter was born, I had major postpartum. And for women listening, like, I think we get so used to living with our symptoms that we identify with them. Like, oh, it's just what's happening. It's just the way that I am. It's what it is, right? Instead of like, no, no, this is my physiology today. How is my body communicating with me in this moment and what can I do about it? Because I identified as that person. I thought that the brain fog was going to stick around. I thought that the days of anxiety or depression were going to stick around. And everyone's just saying it's normal, right?

No, it's, I mean these, yeah, it's all, it all happens, but it's definitely not normal. And then you can, it's nice when you know that you can be proactive about it for sure. And you're, you're never too old to start practicing good brain health.

And it doesn't have to look like doom and gloomy, it doesn't have to look like.

And it doesn't have to be complicated. It's, it's like. And it's, it's quite simple to obtain it.

So you started talking about, you know, when you benefit your brain, when you take care of your brain, you benefit your whole body. So let's paint a picture, maybe even with your own journey, when you started to focus on your brain health, how did that impact your overall well being?

You know, I just felt a lot like me and again like a lot more motivated. I think. You know, you have, there's pillars to brain health, sleep, nutrition, stress reduction, being socially engaged. You know, when I brought all of these things into my life, I just saw such a positive shift because I wasn't putting my sleep first and I wasn't eating my leafy greens and healthy fats and you know, I there but the shift was so simple and not rigid and I just now feel, I mean granted I'm going through perimenopause, so, so the fog does roll in every now and again. But you know, I'm, I'm continuing, I know what to do, I know what I need to do more of, to sort of help lift. So that's been helpful for me.

Yeah. And so what does it take to have great brain health? And maybe this is where we can hover on a personal note, because when my symptoms were at their wor, even now with perimenopause, like some days the thoughts of, okay, I'm gonna eat my leafy greens, I'm gonna get outside, I'm gonna have my fatty fish, I'm gonna take my supplements, it's just like, oh God. Like it seems like such work, but I really wanna shed light on the fact that when you just make the commitment kind of like in alignment with your Higher self by giving it a day or two, the impact of what can happen. So what would you say, like, what are some tips that we can give people to have some great brain health every single day?

I think for sure you just need to, you know, like the brand's called make time. You need to make time. And so for me, I think it's really like taking that time out to just prepare. Like if you're going through, if you're perimenopausal, like I'm postmenopausal, like you have to make time to take care of yourself. Like, women need to make time to like put things in place in their environment. So it's easy. So I think like drafting a shopping list and just have it on repeat and making sure that it's coming no matter what with your basics, you know, to just make sure that you're covered, that you have things in your pantry, that you have things in your freezer that are there for you so you can easily grab them. I think it's super important. And then also I think one thing that I really like to do, my number one tip is like taking a brain break. I put them in my calendar. Like, so I go in and I'll block times in my calendar that are make time moments where I just make sure that I just give myself time to do whatever it is I want to make time for.

So good.

Yeah, it's the same for me. It's like, I mean, even for exercise, even for getting out for a walk, it's like I put everything into my calendar.

Yeah.

And in fact, I mean, it sounds so sad that we have to schedule these things, but, but you know, we are so heavily scheduled. You know, there's so many things going on and I need to be able to break that up. So for me as well, that's, that's one of my tips. Who stole it from me?

What I hear is so, you know, I think in the wellness world, they talk about habits, having healthy habits every day. I think a habit can come and go. You can do anything for 21 days and then it stops. Right. But I think when we turn something into a ritual, rituals become us. Like brushing our teeth every day, it becomes something that we do. It's non negotiable. And to your point about the scheduling, so there's some people out there who are calling this flow state training. Right. If you get your brain into a schedule, it loves when things are consistent every single day. Right. As I researched this though, and when I went back to me Living at the ashram. If you guys ever go, come with me one day to the ashram, you're gonna love it. Your brain will love it too.

Oh, my gosh, yes.

We'll go to the Bahamas in there.

Okay.

Okay.

We'll put that in the calendar. Everywhere that's going in, there's attention to your brain every day. And one of those things is that ashrams and even, like, Buddhist monks, for crying out loud, every single day is run by schedule, hour by hour, task by task. So their brain knows what to expect and what that feels like when you're there. Living there for a period of time, living here in the Western world amongst our crazy lives and schedules and family, thousands of tabs are open. Right. But when you go to the ashram, it's like shutting down all of those tabs so that we can just be present to that moment. So one hour of breath work. One hour of yoga. One hour of work or karma yoga that happens afterwards. Time to eat. So I think scheduling into your calendar is. Yeah, it sucks that it's a necessity, but it's also an ancient practice. Yeah.

Oh, that's good to know. Yeah, I. I actually like being scheduled. It's not that I don't. I like a schedule. Again, like, I'm very a type, so same schedules and productivity and all of that is important as well as scheduling when I need to make time.

You got it. So. So what's one practice that you would say that's had the most impact for you?

Brain health. I mean, it's. It. That for me, is. Is not really so much like, I'm gonna start it in January and see how far I can go with it. It's just a lifestyle now. It's because I've incorporated it so much into my life about sleep, and I track my sleep with my oura ring and, you know, making sure that I have healthy options in my refrigerator. It just takes a little bit of planning. Healthy things in. Not healthy, just like, brain. Healthy things in my pantry. And then we have some fun too. You know, there's balance as well in that pantry. I've got young kids. Same. But, yeah, it's just about. For me, just balancing. What was the question?

Let's put it through this slide because I think maybe people will be able to. It's more tangible. What's a practice for you specifically that gives you the greatest aha or not aha. What's the one greatest practice that makes you feel the most? Like, exhale.

Like, I like that.

For me, it's definitely meditation. And so I think, like, lately I've been really connecting with meditation. I hadn't for a very long time. I was very into meditation when I was in my 20s, and then just life happened. And so I think about the last year and a half, I've been working with some people on meditation, sound baths. And just like, those moments are so special because it's like. Like you just said you, like, close the tabs. And I know for that. That period that I'm gonna have, like, complete clarity. And so it's been really, really helpful for me.

Is there a type of meditation that you like?

I like any. I mean, like, really. I like guided meditation. I like taking myself through meditations. I've been really liking kind of like group sound bath. So I do it like I have a woman that I practice with one on one, which I think is really has really helped me. And then I even have, like, apps. Well, I'll do it at night to, like, wind down. So I think I'm kind of doing it all.

Yeah, we're kind of laughing at this. But I feel like some people, I know, a lot of the listeners, we all know meditation is good for us, but a lot of people don't commit to it. Right. Or often it's the first thing to go if we get really, really busy. But I think it's so important to find a type of meditation that actually feels good for you. Meditation can happen while you're walking. It can happen if you're in a sound bath, if you're sitting down, if you're in the bath, if you're making lunch, if you're making your coffee first thing in the morning. And for those people who say, oh, it's not for me, chances are it's for them the most.

And there's, like, other ways to find it. Exactly. Like what you said. You know, for me, it's like when I get outside, when I go for a hike, when I'm connecting into nature. You know, even just going to the beach. We live so close to the beach. And I'm trying to do that more because there's something about being close to the ocean.

Yeah.

That it's like. Like all the tabs start shutting down. You know, you could just be there. You're listening to the waves, the breeze. There's something that takes me out of my life and sets me there, and I'm actually present and in my body that feels to. That feels more like my own type of meditation.

Could you imagine going to a doctor's office where when you sit down in the waiting room, instead of it being the sterile room, it was like imagery of nature, sounds of the ocean, birds chirping in the background, guided breath, work, meditation, aromatherapy going. Aromatherapy going, right? Yeah, yeah. Like, that's the dream for the future. Okay, so on your website, you guys have some amazing stats. They're shocking, actually. So by 35, a woman's brain is already in decline. 35. Isn't that insane?

Yeah. So what happens as you start getting older? The blood flow gets restricted to your brain, Your brain's active, actually shrinking. And this is, you know, you asked earlier about aha moments, and this is really one of them for us. You know, 2/3 of the Alzheimer's patients here in the United States are women, and one out of every six women is going to get Alzheimer's. Compare that to one out of 11 women who are going to get breast cancer. So everybody's talking about their breasts and breast cancer as they should. It's just we're not having that same conversation about brain health. And double the women are at risk. And so when you think about that, women really need to. You know, one of our missions at Make Time Wellness is to get the world thinking, talking seriously about women's brain health. And for Em and myself, it's like just getting together with other women, using our voices as women to have this conversation with other women. And that's where the magic's going to happen, because nobody really knows that one out of every six women are going to have Alzheimer's. It's not openly spoken about. And I think that there's so many things that you can do. Lifestyle changes, like, we've been talking about supplementation, easy things that you can do to like, put you, like, really focus on your brain health and not become one of those statistics.

I don't know why people aren't talking about it. I don't know if it's like, I think. Well, I do know there is so much stigma and shame around dementia as a whole. So I think maybe it's just being pushed to the back burner, but.

Well, it's even around aging, right? So like all doctors, then if we know that this is such a huge stat, and we know for a lot of women, you know, estrogen is crucial for supplying oxygen to the brain, and if that drops, right? And so there's so many symptoms that happen as the onset. From 35 on, I work with this amazing acupuncturist. He's like, if I was in clinic I would put every single woman over the age of 40 on estrogen. And yet most women don't even know how to check their hormones properly. Isn't that insane?

Yeah, I know.

Yeah. So I'm with you. Let's put this out there. Like, have conversations with other women in your communities about the power of, like, hey, how's your brain health? What's your brain fog? Light, like making a part of conversation so that we don't normalize it, so that we stop normalizing it. But also when we go to our doctors, hey, what can I do for my brain?

Yeah, you have to advocate for yourself. You have to learn how to advocate for yourself. And I never knew about that. You know, it was so easy for me to go to the doctor and him dismissing and saying, well, he knows best. So I'm just gonna walk away from this with my brain fog and think, it's fine, it's gonna clear up. And it never did. It's like, we really need to empower ourselves. We really need to have these conversations, and we need to learn how to advocate for ourselves. And in our doctor's office, because it's so easy. Like, that hierarchy, you know, you feel that, like, they know best, but you really have to go in knowing what you're feeling and something is not right and really presenting it. And if he's not listening, she's not listening. You need to go somewhere else.

You got it.

You know, funny because. And I'm not going to put my. My primary care doctor on blast now.

But I know, I try not to.

You know, the last time she did a physical with me when I went in, it was kind of a test. And so, you know, like, if your primary care doctors, when you're doing your physical, they're not asking you about your brain health, ask them about your brain health. And so, you know, my. My doctor, who I won't name right now, you know, she did my physical, and at the end I was like, you know, doctor, you know, I have this brand called Make Time Wellness, and we're raising awareness for women's brain health. And I really would love to start having this conversation with you. And she and I spoke, and I'm very close with her. She's an amazing woman. And she was like, you know what? You're right. And this is not something that they really cover as a part of, you know, general practice. And so it was so great to just have that moment with my doctor. And so ask your doctors, you know, let's start talking about my brain health. Because they'll be able. I mean, they do know about supplements you can take and lifestyle changes. So it's great to start the conversation.

And have the conversation. And if they don't know, then have them to someone.

Absolutely. Your doctor should be your partner in healing. Right. And that's not happening. And I remember, you know, when I was given med medications or been given a diagnosis, they're in the white coat. You just give them so much power and control. You get a, a, a label or a diagnosis and you identify with that. And something that you said too, like if you know within you that something's off. This is where women need to be given more power. Like we have this communication system within our body. Trust your gut on that. I just saw a doctor who told me that leaky gut syndrome wasn't real. Yeah, but again, it's like the doctor that doesn't get training and nutrition. Right. And I think, you know, the paradigm is shifting a little bit. There's more awareness that's being brought to this. But like, even around what we're putting into our bodies, food keeps us alive. And yet our doctors don't know how to speak to us about the power of nutrition. They want to know that we're not eating at McDonald's every day. We're no longer sleeping, smoking, or drinking too much alcohol. And it's like, it's so much more.

It needs to be, it needs to be proactive. And a proactive approach, not a reactive approach.

You got it? Yeah. And I remember even saying to my doctor, well, my anxiety was at its worse. He never asked about what was happening in my life, what my schedule was like, what the quality of my sleep was likely. He just wanted to know the big, you know, check boxes and that was it. So that's a really good point. Find a doctor that is your partner. All right, next, you guys wrote, on average, half of our short term memory and focus is gone by the age of 60. 60 is like the new. What, 40?

Yeah.

Right. Can we call that. So like, 60 is so young. Short term memory. And this is what sucks because I'm a big fan of. I don't want to believe that aging has to be poor. And I think we're, we live in a world where it's like, oh, especially as women, it's all going downhill, you know, perimenopause, menopause. Here you go. Losing your short term memory. Right. Forgetfulness, when we shouldn't have to accept that at all. So have you noticed since you started the brand, are there Women that have reached out to you, you know, have you? Yeah.

I mean, the overwhelming thing we get is thank you. And I need this because everybody, I mean, you know, when you start recognizing it, you're like, oh, that's my short term memory. You know, when you can't find something or you can't place it, and there's things that we can do and it's not a loss, and there's things that we can do every single day to work on our brain health. Like, don't turn on the gps, do a puzzle, Learn something new.

Do your shopping without a list. You know, there's ways to like, exercise your brain. Brush your teeth with your left hand if you're normally right handed. You know, there's just ways to like train exercise. There's things that you can do for your brain that are quite fun.

What else do you think is triggering all of this? So let's say it's happening more frequently. Right. I know, like, there's a lot of symptoms and rises in certain diseases and mental health issues like anxiety and depression, for example, are on the rise. The numbers are higher than they've ever been before. And when I'm working with my clients trying to get to the root cause, it is a big approach because there's a lot of things that are contributing to this. So what would you say, like, what are some of the biggest triggers that you would find that are contributing to brain health?

I would say like, lack of movement, like a sedentary lifestyle, lack of sleep or, you know, not making good food choices, not exercising. I mean, movement is so important. There's so many great studies about exercise and how it benefits your brain now, which has been so exciting. You know, it's kind of just like all the opposites of great, like the pillars of, you know, there's, there's so many things that we can do now.

Yeah.

But again, it's so simple. You just got to get up and move and social interaction, stress reduction, you know, it's not out of reach, which I love it. Like it's, it's easier for me to practice that than this very complicated, crazy lifestyle of wellness that ever trying to obtain that seems unobtainable.

Yeah. Especially with social media.

I mean, you know, I get it, how complicated.

It's like actually like the opposite of health and wellness when you think about it.

Right.

And so, you know, what we, what we're seeing people's outsides, it's not a reflection of inside. And I just think we're, you know, that we're we're constantly having to reprogram for sure.

With my clients too, I also try to guide them to understanding, like turn down the noise of social media.

Yeah.

Your perfect diet, your perfect wellness protocol should be as unique as your thumbprint. Right. Yours and yours and mine, they should all be different and we can take ownership with that. Right. And what do you think too, just like based on the conversations that you've had since starting the brand and prior to with women and our emotional health, it's got to impact our brain health.

Oh yeah. I mean, that's why like one of the pillars is stress reduction. You know, me again for the sixth time, being overwhelmed all the time, that really impacts my, you know, the state of my well being. So, you know, what are the things that I do that I know to sort of lower the noise, bring down my anxiety and it's getting out into nature, it's being socially engaged, it's connecting with my family and friends.

I'm really curious like now that I used to use the word vibration a lot, like 10 years ago, and everyone was like, it was too, woo, woo, yeah. But now amazing doctors like Joe Dispenza are validating vibration. Right. And the frequency of our body. When I work with women, you know, we'll get on the first call together and the first thing that they want to know. Mona, tell me the perfect diet, the perfect supplements and workout, like, I'm on it, I'm going to go do it. But then within 10 or 15 minutes I have them talking about their childhood or trauma or sadness and all of a sudden like we open the floodgates and then there's just tears and like a melt. Right. And so I share this story because, like, we want to take this holistic approach to how we're healing. And I think that up until now, women didn't really feel safe to let it go or seek help or talk about the anxiety or overwhelm or mental health stuff that they were feeling because we were taught to internalize it or be stronger or show up, do it all right, Well, I don't want to do it all right? I want to, I want to show up and do my best, but also feel the best in my body. So yeah, I just wonder for the people listening, the way that I see it, if you are this, you know, radio antenna, right? You have these frequency lines to your family, your job, your career, your sleep, your past, your parents, the environment, the world, like there's so many things that are just cluttering our brain and our Mind. And I think that in the same way that we treat our technology, shutting things down at the end of the night, unplugging, recharging, we need to do for our actual body. Right. So what are some of the bigger problems that you think this is going to lead to? So here you are, you guys are activists, you are advocates in this world. You know, if you could choose, if we don't deal with this now, what is it leading to?

Yeah, well, the numbers of dementia are increasing. It's in, it's staggering. So I think it's important to get in front of this. It's, you know, again, prevention is better than cure. Dementia's not fun, you know, it's, it's, it's not what you want. It's not, you don't want to see your loved one going through that disease. And yes, there's some where sometimes that if it's in the cards for you, it is. There's really no amount of brain health that you could have done to help prevent it. It just depends, you know, there's so much dependent on that. But again, like, I think that there, there's so many things that we can do to be proactive.

Have you guys done genetic testing for yourselves?

Have I done genetic testing for myself, like 23andMe? Yeah, yeah, I've done 23andMe.

I think, you know the world of biometrics, there's so many companies that are coming out, it's just, it's wild, it's too much. I think that there's a time and a place for understanding your physiology and whether you carry genes that might dictate the future. But again, it doesn't determine whether you're going to progress and get the disease or not. Because, and the reason I'm asking you, and thank you for sharing details on what it's like to live with somebody with dementia, because we often think out of sight, out of mind. If it doesn't run in my family, I haven't experienced it, it's not going to happen to me. And yet these numbers in women are rising, right?

Yeah. And it doesn't have to run in your family. That's what the crazy thing is.

Exactly.

You know, that it can just appear and you're like, what the hell? Where did this come from? You know, and I think that is, that's, that was shocking to me actually.

Well, and I think also, like, this is everybody's story, you know, and I think, oh, like the they're getting older excuse is just not like there are things that we can do. And so I think it's just really important. Like, everybody knows somebody. Everybody has a family member. So many people, you know, have Alzheimer's and dementia. And the numbers to Emma's point are increasing, not decreasing. And so. So it's really important. This is going to become quite a problem for Worldwide if we don't start talking about it.

So let's bring this back in and really focus in on the concept of brain fog. Chances are, I mean, brain fog was a norm for me for so long. But when we think of this through the lens of your research, what are some of the most common reasons that people are suffering from brain fog?

Well, estrogen and progesterone. You know, you have a child and your hormones completely change. And for the first few years after you have a baby, your hormones are completely out of whack. And that is like your hormones are changing. That is why you have brain fog. It's not because you have a baby. It's because of your hormones. And so just identifying that is part of the thing. And then again, when you go through perimenopause or menopause, you're having the same sort of fluctuations, and you have a very, very similar brain fog symptoms that happen. So I think counteracting that with exercise, movements, meditation, nutrition, like, really empowers you. So I. Knowing what's going on, educating yourself. And there are so many ways to counter it. Like, for instance, when I was going through perimenopause, and now I'm post menopausal, in the beginning, I mean, I was a nervous wreck. I couldn't think, I couldn't focus. And movement was so key for me at that time, you know, because for me to, like, show up and be present and, like, even just get things out of my mouth, things that I'd normally do every day, became virtually impossible because of my hormone fluctuations. And so after doing some research, I needed to really make sure that I moved my body for one to two hours a day. And that was. That really worked for me.

Wow.

So. And also with supplementation and diet. So women just need to realize it's not something that happens. There's changes happening in your body, and there's so many things we can do.

I love that you pointed that out, though, too. Like, you took the time to figure it out.

Yeah.

Like, you took time to figure out what you needed specifically. Because often, like, we try one thing, we try something that didn't work. It didn't work. Didn't work. We're like, okay, this Is it? This is meant to be. And especially with perimenopause now it's like the brain fog is real and a lot of it stems. For me, it's poor sleep. It's like overnight goodbye sleep.

Yeah.

That just like completely disappeared.

Yeah.

And so I ended up going on progesterone and helped put like, not much. The brain fog was just there. But then I increased my dose of progesterone, I kid you not, on my oura ring. It's the first time probably in like five years that I've ever seen a two hour deep sleep Mark.

Oh, wow, that's great.

Yeah.

I don't think I've even gotten that right.

I think I'm at like 131 40.

Right.

I know, but again, it took me so long to just figure that out. Right. Or something like, like breath work. If we were just taught how to increase blood flow to our brain and take the time to do it every single day, we would do it. Right. Or in my world too. Optimizing your gut function. Yeah. Like healing your gut, which is connected to your brain, is going to make all the difference in the world.

I do say it's your second brain.

You got it. And did you dive into the world of, you know, your gut health and gut changes?

Yeah, I mean, I did originally with this first doctor. So, you know, it was about how to look after my gut, what I'm like, what I'm putting into my body, how to support my gut that well. That really benefited my brain as well.

And did you make any hard changes at that point? Like, are there any non negotiables with food that, you know, are your triggers?

Yeah. I mean, for me it was gluten. It was really looking at my carbs, which was such a drag.

Yeah, I know.

Sugar was a big one.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, these were things that we know. Like, we know that these aren't great for our body. And it's really just about how to start. I weaned. I weaned back slowly.

Great.

It wasn't like, okay, I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna do this perfectly. It was like it was a process. And I think it's not like, it's not always black and white. Like, I think that you have to kind of like settle into this new routine and go easy on yourself. And sometimes you're not going to do it perfectly and that's okay. And you can reset and start tomorrow. I think with like social media, there's this idea of like this perfection and I just, I don't subscribe to that.

I'm with you. And a lot of people see right up the cutting out of foods. A lot of people don't think that their morning coffee with milk or that one piece of sourdough bread or their afternoon sweet potato, like whatever it is, that that could be contributing to their gut health. But with that said, it's not a forever thing. Like, you cut it out for a little while, you let your body heal, you heal your digestion. You can bring those foods back into your life. But you notice the brain fog really dissipate, right?

Yeah. Especially when you see it dissipating and then you feel so good. It's like, it's like a snowball effect.

Right.

Like as you're, you know, you're eating healthier or just being mindful what you're putting in your body. And when you see a positive outcome, it's like you want to stick with that.

And at the end of the day, you help your brain, you help your heart, you help your heart, you help your brain, you help your digestion, you help your brain. It's all connected. It's interesting.

I had to. For me, I gave up eating meat and I just changed. I'm a pescatarian now and I was completely like. The one thing that I really noticed was after two weeks on a pescatarian diet was the clarity in my brain. I mean, it was so shocking how clear I was. And so that was one of the, I think, best things I personally did for my health.

I love that you brought that up because so many women right now with especially are thinking that they need to get to 140 or 150g of protein to feel their best, when that's just not true. A lot of the data is that that's been done on, you know, could be from men. It depends on your goals. And of course, protein is essential, especially for aging. But I think that the people listening figure out the foods and the diet that make you feel the best and look at your genetics too. I don't know if you guys have ever tried this, like, trying to eat like your ancestors. My. So I'm half meat and potatoes and half completely vegetarian. When I go to the Indian side of things, I thrive. I feel like my body comes back into place, my digestion's on point. But again, I'm in this world of wellness and oh, I should try this. And I want to try everything for my clients. And I feel like, oh, it's just, it's Too much chaos.

Yeah.

That I'm experiencing. So thank you for bringing that up. What are some of the biggest misconceptions about brain fog that you're seeing?

I think that there's nothing that you can do, right?

Oh, yeah. I mean, I think that there's plenty of things that you can do. And again, it's about being proactive. I think people don't think about their brains. They don't know how to think about their brains. No one's talking to them about their brains. So I think it's just an afterthought, which is wild, but we're not educated about it. So how would we know to ask. Ask our doctor. You want your doctor to be able to educate you on the things that you should be thinking about. And it's breast health, heart health, it's gut, even gut health. Now, my doctor speaks to me about. But, like, when you go into these appointments, they're not talking to you about your brain.

No, not at all. And it's not until something's wrong that they bring it up. Right. Like, this isn't about prevention, which is what drives me insane. I use this in reference with digestion all the time. Like, if you could see your digestive tract or like, if we had tests where we could actually get more indication to the state of our gut or our brain, chances are we would treat it a little bit differently. But we have no concept of this organ inside of our skull at all.

Because we can't see it. Right. And there's, like, no real tests that can, you know, really take a look, unless you're doing brain scans or whatnot. And. But. But yeah, you know, you can get a tethoscope for your heart and have a mammogram for your breast, but not really anything for your brain.

So let's just break that myth today, then, that brain fog does not have to be part of aging and that, as we've experienced, it can be reversed. Right. It's just so. So key.

I would say that, yes. Yeah. But I think it's, you know, if you are experiencing it, it's just time to get involved in your brain healthy. There is. There is something that you can do for it.

Inquire, ask questions, and let's talk about diet then. Okay, so some key things. And let's share, like, what are some foods that you guys know really impact you?

For me, you know, when I'm thinking about my brain, it's leafy greens, it's healthy fats, using olive oil instead of seed oils.

You got it.

Avocados, whole grains, nuts are very important. That's sort of where, that's where I go to sort of feel, feel my best. Just like whole foods, clean Whole Foods, 100 blueberries.

Do you guys know Jim Quick?

No, no, no, no.

He calls blueberries brain berries.

Yeah.

So yeah, eat your blueberries. Every single berries.

Even, even better. So I use wild in my smoothie. You know, like I do these really healthy smoothies, like these Brain healthy smoothies where I put like MCT oil, I put our a, a scoop of our make time wellness brain health supplement and then just blueberries, almond milk.

Yeah. So yummy.

Yeah.

And I think a lot of people listening, like you didn't just describe a brain protocol, you simply describe really yummy foods that you can consider to your grocery list every single week that are going to help you optimize 100%.

Yeah, you can do like. And there's, there's actually a couple of really great Brain Healthy cookbooks out there. There's someone named Dr. Annie Fenn. She has a beautiful. Yeah. A brain health cookbook. And it's huge. And the foods are delicious. It's just yummy. And you know, dark chocolate is also, you know, a little bit of dark chocolate. There's nothing wrong with that. There's just really so many great options that you don't really have to skimp.

You know, it's a good point. It's like, it's almost like it's more about what you take out.

Right?

Yeah, exactly.

Totally.

You brought up seed oils. Are there other ingredients that you guys just kind of really try to avoid?

Seed oils is my big one. Sugar is my other one. Sugar and alcohol.

Yes. Seed oils, alcohol and sugar, I say, is the like trifecta.

Yeah. You know, in January, I did dry January and I kept it going because I just felt great. You know, I love like a glass of red wine with dinner. But as I've gotten older, my body just does not, it just does not process anymore. It wakes me up at 3 o' clock in the morning and that's just like a glass of wine.

I know.

So I just think that doesn't work for my body.

Well, I mean, you know, alcohol and you know, everything of course in moderation, but it causes inflammation and that's the last thing you want to do for your brain. And like inflammation is the worst, worst thing for our health, but for our brain health, it's horrible. So it's, you know, minimizing the alcohol that you drink is really, really important. And Sugar is such a. No, no. Yeah, we really have to watch our sugar.

That's another good call to action though, because I feel like some women, this whole everything in moderation movement, if we're doing seed oils in moderation, we're basically microdosing seed oils to our brain. Right. So I would say, you know, as you guys have done and the journey that you're on, it's like bring your body back into balance first, heal, take out inflammation, get to a state where you're feeling really great again. And then when it comes for the fun time, the fun foods, the. Bring it in, bring it in. I'm all for it.

Oh, yeah, no, I.

You're here to enjoy food also.

I mean, I actually, I'm like a stress eater. I found. Yeah, we found that out over the years that, like, when I'm stressed, I just want something like comforting and yummy. And I go back to like my childhood of foods that I used to eat. And I think it's okay, you know, we shouldn't beat ourselves up over it again. It's like, I think you need, you know, I think it's like for me, it's like this 80, 20.

Yeah.

I have kids, they love pizza. They love like. And I do too.

Yeah, exactly. But we're doing things to kind of counteract all those amounts for sure. Right.

I think, I think some is better than nothing. Like, you can support your brain just a little bit over time and again, you'll start feeling better and then that'll probably snowball and you continuing.

And what you're mentioning is like, if we do things that way, we're losing the guilt. That's something else that I think women, like, go have the chocolate cake. Don't feel guilty right afterwards. The guilt that you're feeling is going to do more harm and good than good long term.

Enjoy it, like, savor it. Take your time with it. Eat that chocolate cake. Yes. Just not every night.

Just not every night.

All right.

I really want to dive in to make Time. So let's really talk about, you know, the research that you've done into supplementation, the key supplements that you've chosen to be in this amazing product. I can't wait to try it. But, you know, talk about the supplements that you've chosen for make time and.

Why, you know, when we sat down to make Make Time for brain health, it was very important that we had a beautiful all in one for women that was easy for her to. And for us to really hit all of our bases. And one of our main ingredients in the product is curcumin. Curcumin has been used throughout history to reduce inflammation, and it also improves cognition, focus, clarity. It's a very, very well studied, natural ingredient. So that's kind of the base of our make time. And when you open make time, you see it's this bright, beautiful orange color. And that's from our curcumin. So it really has amazing benefits. And when you drink it every day like I do, you can really see the profound effects it has on keeping your body less inflamed. And it really helps in so many areas. It's really one of my favorite ingredients in the product.

That's another one of those ingredients, though. Like, it's a superfood. It's a superfood. That's proven the test of time comes from nature. Works on our brain, works on our joints, on our heart, on every cell in our body. Yeah, it's incredible. I love that you chose that.

And, you know, we really, we really. When we were making the drink, it was just really important for us that we. It was super well rounded. Then we also have, you know, MCT oil and which is like a big energy booster for the brain. Everybody can use some MCT oil. Then we also added cognizant C. This is a nootropic that's found in the brain. It's been very, very well studied, has a lot of research. This helps just to support overall brain health, cognition. And it's been studied in women. So that was really, really important to us that a lot of these ingredients that we used were studied, have female studies. So we could really feel good about putting it in the product. And then we have a multivitamin and we have a really big B suite. B vitamins are really, really important for.

Brain health, cognition, energy, mood.

Yeah, I mean, a lot of these things, a lot. These were the supplements that I was on, except for the cognizant, that was like a new, fun, incredible ad. But everything like the curcumin and the bees and the multi and the mct. And I was putting that in my smoothie. So it's just so nice to have it now all in a drink. It's just easy to take.

Yeah. They're all ingredients that we can understand. And I think that the solution that you really filled is we've been looking for all of these ingredients independently and on their own. And I think you and I are done with taking the bowl full of vitamins every single day too much. So something that's Easy. And that tastes really great, I think is essential.

Yeah, yeah. And women can, you know, just drink it as a drink. They could throw it in a big bottle of water. They can put it in a smoothie. It's got, like, a lovely. It's made with crystallized orange. It's like an orange flavor. And it's just very easy. And it really covers your pocket brain, body, and beauty in that order. So we really, really love it. And really, the benefits, you notice them nearly immediately. Like, you really can tell that you're doing something good for yourself, and it really makes it super simple, which was our goal in the beginning.

Oh, my God, I love that. All right, so we've got this amazing supplement. I think that we've covered a lot of the really great things that we can be doing every day, from exercise to sleep, movement time, outside meditation. You know, what would you say about detox? You guys done a lot of detoxing?

Sauna.

Yeah.

Is really important. You know, I think that's sort of a way that I like to detox and also just like, exercise. Being able to sweat, that's for me, that's my detox. That's what I do. And it's. It is very beneficial for the brain.

Because I figured, like, this. That's one thing, too, that I think women are more inundated with is the amount of products that we use every single day. Right. That fuel toxins. Toxins live in every cell in our body, which obviously would impact our brain health. Right. So taking care with those things, as well as just being one of the buckets that you can tap into. Sauna, I love. Do you guys want to consistently.

I love saunas. Yeah.

I wouldn't say that I'm consistent.

I want to be consistent.

I know I see people on Instagram where they're going in there every day. I'm like, how are they doing this every day?

Like.

Yeah, no, you know, like, every seven to 10 days. Yeah, I'm able to do it.

We'll get there.

Yeah, we'll get there. We'll get to every day. We'll just have to schedule that in.

Some of those influencers online.

Yeah. Cold plunge. Sauna. Cold plunge. We actually met somebody. Was I with you? I met someone that was actually hospitalized. So someone that we work with, they went to a cold plunge. Plunge, like Summit, and they ended up in the hospital because they overdid it. And so. So, yeah, like, they were just in and out of the cold plunge all day until they got moderation.

Yeah. You don't get an award, people. You do not get an award. It's like fasting. I get these texts from clients, like, I got to 37 hours. There's no award. Right. Like, do what feels good for you. Which I think is so key. All right, so let's think about, you know, one thing. You guys are such amazing advocates for brain health. I love that you're women. What's one thing that you wish more women were taking care of with their minds?

I just think, you know, like, their overall well being. I would like for women to just know that it's okay to make time for themselves. That, you know, what we say at make time, like, grab a friend, go for a walk, talk about your problems. Like, that's such a wonderful way to, like, nurture yourself in such a simple way. That's what I. That's what I would say.

Yeah. What's the impact of making time? Like, if we take, like, it's almost like this isn't even a product. You're literally just giving us a foundational truth for how to be well. What's the impact of making time?

I think that as women, we're going to be there for ourselves, and in turn, we're going to be there for everyone around us.

Yeah, I love that. Most important thing, right? And I think for women, if we really do, you know, after listening to this podcast, start scheduling time into your calendar for yourself for the one or two things that make you feel better. We pour more into the cups around us. Like, our children get the better part of us. Our loved ones get the better part of us. Our work, our creativity gets the better part of us. But we have to just, like, unlearn the fact that we've got to move ourselves to the bottom of our priority list.

Yeah, no, we can't do that. I think what's so beautiful about also making time is that when you think about, like, what do I want to make time for? And it doesn't have to be like, exercise and the hike and the, you know, but it's like, even going back to, like, your hobbies. We did this challenge, the make time challenge, where every day for 30 days, we needed to make time for something. And it was actually hard because I'm like, what do I actually like to do? So I really had to sort of, like, dig deep. And it was like, you know, I was reading so much more. I'm going to read more at night or I'm going to do the puzzle that's been collecting dust downstairs. You know, it's Just like, you really need to tap back into your hobbies. And I think we've just forgotten about it. Like, they've just all been put to the back burner because we. We don't look after ourselves the way we should. We look after everyone else so well.

Can I just go back? Like, what do I love to do? How many women even ask themselves that? Right, yeah. Like, don't go into the sauna because we're saying it's a good idea. Do something that you love to do.

And that will even benefit you so much more than the sauna for 20 minutes. Like, really. It's just, you know, my husband would call this noodling around, where it's like you had nothing on the schedule and you just get out into the world and you walk around. You window shop. Oh, there's a coffee shop. I'm gonna stop there. Like, that is just. So it just depends on what you like to do. But we used to love doing that. Like, it just really fed our soul. Noodling around. Yeah, it's beautiful.

I think so. I heard Sarah Blakely talk about this once, where part of her strategy every day was to just go sit outside. Yeah, sit outside, look up at the sky, and just be with your thoughts. And for me, I thought that that had to come through meditation, but I didn't consider. Ultimately, I really just needed another woman to give me permission to say, like, that's part of your success strategy in life and in happiness. Go sit outside. Take time to just look upside, look up at the sky, see what comes up for you, and then go back to your day.

Yeah.

100. I mean, I think, like, even just going out for a walk, for me, that's where, like, my best idea, you know, for some people, it's like, in the shower. But when I can get out for a walk, not with, like, listening to a pod in my ear, it's just like, really just actually being outside walking, thinking we should be we. I'm giving the listeners permission to go.

Yeah. I mean, I think this being outside is one of my things that keeps me rooted. Like, I really have to make sure I go outside because I feel like that's where the magic happens. Like, you're not going to see the stars or you're not going to get the sunlight or, like, you're just not going to experience the day if you just don't. If you don't make time for that moment. So it's just really important. And Emma always says, like, making time looks different for everybody, and it's what that means for yourself.

Making Time is such a simple concept, but I just want to apply to you. It's such a big thing and I really just want everything that you're doing to just go mainstream. And I think that a lot of our listeners are going to be really inspired about the charitable aspect of the things that you're doing. Can you guys fill us in on that?

Yeah. So we donate 5% of all proceeds to Hilarity for Charity. They are an org, they're an incredible organization. They look after families who are going through the Alzheimer's journey. And they're also educating this new generation of brain health advocates, which I just find really empowering that, like, our young people will know about how to look after their brains from an earlier age. And we're really aligned because they're all about brain health and research. So it was the right fit for Make Time Wellness to be able to have that be our charitable arm. And it's been like a beautiful partnership with them, which has been really exciting.

Partnership and concept too, I think. Like, you know, these driven brands that are committed to giving back, it's. It's about so much more than you guys. It's about a bigger purpose and higher cause that people want to be part of also.

This is a very purpose driven brand.

Yes.

You know, we have incredible products, but it's just sort of this whole thing that we're building, this umbrella that we have over it, I just think is for me, really powerful. And I think for both of us, it's like it's all about purpose. And I think purpose has found us.

I think it's part of our DNA as women. I really do.

And it's really actually great for your brain health.

Yeah.

Yes, totally.

Yeah. And you do a lot of advocacy work. Do you mind sharing also about the FTD awareness and with Bruce and your passion there? I know you give a lot of insight on your page.

Yeah. So my husband was diagnosed with FTD in 2022. And you know, for us it was really important to be able to or for me to help raise awareness around a disease that I did not know anything about prior to it. A lot of people don't know what ftd, but it is the most common form of dementia for people under the age of 60. I didn't even know that a younger onset existed prior to this. So for me, again, this is something that is very purposeful and meaningful to me to be able to not only help our family, but the next family so that when they get this diagnosis that they don't feel as alone and isolated like I did when, you know, we got this incredible crazy diagnosis.

So caring for any family member takes a massive toll and we no longer live in villages where there's tribes to support us. And you guys also, you give so much mention to the caregivers in people's lives also, which is such a, such a nice surprise on your website.

Yeah, there's so many caregivers out there and they are really our unsung heroes. You know, they're doing so many things and that we don't get to see. So for me, it's really important for our brand to be able to just highlight them and, you know, I have some energy where I'm able to shine a light on them and be able to bring them resources and try and be helpful and of service in any way that I can.

Thank you for bringing that up. I just wanted to shed a different light because I'm sure a lot of people listening have people in their life that they have to take care of and often it gets so easy to get stuck in the draining aspect of it and how depleting it can be as opposed to the gifts that also exist with that.

So thank you. There's also, there's, there's. It is a very difficult thing, but there is also light and joy and things that come from it too. So it's really about finding that balance.

So I love it. I want this to turn into a movement. I'm so grateful for this conversation. I just think it's going to be a game changer for women.

It is a movement.

It's a movement.

Get the world thinking seriously about women's brain health.

It's happening. So in closing, we finish off with some rapid fire questions. You guys can decide who wants to take the answer. What are the most common mistakes or misconceptions that you're seeing women make with their health?

Over complicating it. Absolutely. You know, you just need to keep it simple.

So true. We do too much as is what is one way that many women are making healing and health too complicated.

They're over complicating it.

Did we talk about overwhelm on this show? Did we talk about anxiety and overwhelm?

Yeah. So over complicated. Complicating it. Just keep it simple. Keep it simple. Shut out the noise, focus and feel what feels right for you.

Yes.

And just simplify it.

Yeah. Find the thing that brings you joy that you mentioned. What's your favorite ancient healing remedy?

I've been Doing cupping recently, which I really enjoy, and acupuncture. For me, it's all about, like, how to get the blood moving, circulating in my body. And for me, like, when I think about that, I think about, like, the blood flowing to my brain.

Yeah, absolutely. Balancing your body, all the things. That's right. Beautiful. If you had to pick something about modern medicine that excites you, what would it be?

Should I go? You know, I think, like, brain scans excite me. I think that there is. If we could just bring that more into sort of the. Our annual, you know, like we do with mammograms, all of these things. I think that to be able to see things earlier is really beneficial for us.

We manifest this, like, over the age of 35. Women should have access to brain scans.

Yeah, absolutely.

Let's put that out there. What are the top three things that we can start doing right now to optimize our health?

Put your brain, body, and beauty in that order. Society has really revers.

Yes.

And so it's just really important that you think of your brain, body, and then your beauty every day.

I love it. No one's ever said that. Prioritize your body first and then the beauty also comes. Yeah, right.

Your brain first, your brain first, and.

Then the body, and then that benefits.

And then your beauty comes.

Yeah, you got it. If you could leave our listeners with just one takeaway that you're most passionate about right now, what would it be?

I would say to make. Make time. Make time for yourself. It's so important. Put yourself first. It's okay. You don't have to feel guilty about it.

I love that we're gonna put the link outs to everything below. I can't wait to try and share everything about make Time. Emma and Helen. I'm just so grateful I met you. I'm so, like, the timing of all this. And thank you for like, really being intentional about putting it out to the world that women. Women need to just take this into their power because once they do that, it's part of their superpower and their healing. And I think that we can drastically change how we're aging as women. Right. Thank you for being here.

Nice to see you. Thank you so much.

Thanks for. Thank you so much.