1.9.23 Identity and Roles with Courtney Lester

Welcome to Made for Mondays. My name is Justin Lester. You're tuned into our podcast. I simply take some time just to talk about life living and what it means to pursue all the who we are. I'm a person who's lived life, successes and failures, good things, bad things, whatever that is in between. I'm a dad, I'm a husband, I'm a pastor, I'm a writer, I'm a teacher and professor. All those things in between. All I want to do on here, let's give you suggestions and tips on living. You'll eventually meet my wife on here as well. You'll meet my son on here as well. You'll meet other people and friends and colleagues that I have with all one goal. We have a story. God is writing it. Let's do it together. The reason this is called Made for Mondays is I want you to be made for the beginning of your work week. Your workplaces are places of worship. Not to be worshiped, but places of worship. Whatever it is that you're worshiping, whether you're saved or not saved, Christian or non Christian, on this podcast, I want you to see your workplaces as sacred spaces. The goal of this podcast is to ensure that you are Made for Monday. Mondays. Don't make me. I make them Mondays. Do not deny me of the future. I tell Mondays the future is going to come to me. That's what this podcast is all about. So grab a notepad or don't sit back in your car. Turn it up, turn it down, make us faster, make us slower. Something today is going to be said to make you better. Are you ready? Let's get Made for Mondays. And so I wanted to change up the second week of our our time together and actually bring a special guest in to have more conversation, more than we normally do when it's just me talking. But this time, this time around, this year, Courtney, my wife, will be a part of our Made for Mondays crew. So help me welcome Courtney to Made for Mondays again. So today, Courtney's going to lead the conversation. Really about. Well, she be able to explain and we'll jump into our time together for major Mondays.

Well, hey everybody in the Made for Mondays land, it's an honor to be here. Super excited. So Justin and I have been talking about doing a podcast together for a long time, but it just never kind of got off. That's 100% my fault. He's always willing and ready, but so I thought I'd come in. We have two different styles because we're, we're a lot alike, but a lot different.

A lot different.

A lot different. And so we have two different styles. He's very structured, as you know. He's very organized. I can be organized sometimes with things that I really want, but 99% of the time I'm not. And I really just love having conversation and having hot topics and talking about. I'm really into pop culture. I'm really into really deep thinking and deep thought, especially around Jesus and just like our relationship and what does that look like today? So I'm excited to bring you more of a relaxed version of Made for Mondays that's more conversational.

So what was the topic you wanted to go over?

So I thought it was interesting to talk about identity. And the reason why this really sparked the interest to me this week is because we both play a lot of roles in life, right? Like just from work to being parents, to being husband and wives, but to the true core. Who are we as people, like individually, like, to the core, into our heart of us, who did God call us to be? Who are we? Who do we are created to be? And what is that true essence? And is our identity the roles that we all play, does that make up our identity? Or do we have a tridentity that is into each of these roles there's. I don't know, how do you look at it?

Well, I think the root of identity first starts with your relationship with Christ, right? So I think it relationship with Christ speaks to your. Your relationship with yourself. So we're saying identity first. There's a work I finished reading called the Courage to Be Happy and it talked about how identity really kind of comes down to love. So what is it? Who is it that you're choosing to love? Right. And identity then is the conscious decision to love because I know myself and then loving from who I am and loving into who that other person is is. I don't think we actually ever get to a point where we know who we are, right? We're constantly evolving. At the moment I think we're all like onions. The moment you get to one layer, you're pulling back another layer, you're pulling back a leather layer. But if you're self reliant on the essence of like what God has told you to be. So I think that's the root of identity. Identity is first rooted in who God is, what God who, what God has created, and then you trusting what God has created and over the course of your life evolving into the fullness of what God has created. But if I don't trust God, then I'll never really truly know who I am.

That's powerful. So you're saying like our first foundation of identity is that relationship with Christ, you know, and who we are in Christ, you know, like our true identity and what we're, what we're doing.

And that even goes for the unsight. Like if you don't know your creator, that goes to anything. Right. So if I don't, if I don't know who made my car, like so if I take my Ford to a Toyota dealership, they can work on it, but they don't, they don't know the car. Right. But they know cars. Yeah, but they don't know my car.

Right.

I think the same thing goes even.

If you're, they can't tell you, like there's a recall.

Yeah, it's like atheists are agnostic. It's like, yeah, you can go and to a lifespace or be happy or whatever that is, but you'll never truly know who you are until you know the Creator. And the Creator is the one who can give you the answers. And, and I think that it is in knowing and understanding the creator you can dive into who you are as the creation. Right.

Do you think getting to know our identity is like ever evolving or is it like a destination that like, oh, I know who I am and it's like, you know, this is the promised land of who I am. I know, without a doubt. Or is it ever evolving? Right. Like, are we?

That's a great question. So I've been reading the story of Moses and Elijah a lot more. And those are the two individuals in scripture who died while they were still living. Right. Like they're the two individuals in scripture. That's what I'm saying. So God took them back to heaven without them actually experiencing death.

Oh yeah, right.

So Elijah and Moses.

There was one more in the Jesus.

Enoch. Enoch as well. So in any Methuselah's father, by the way, read the book of Enoch. A lot of the things we talk about when it comes to Jesus and prophecies are actually book Enoch and the Apocrypha. But Moses and Elijah were still alive and they died. Like God showed them the promised land. He showed them the end goal and God took him on home. Right. And I think it speaks a lot to identity. Like when life gets too big for the body, that's when death occurs.

So Moses didn't die?

No, Moses did not die. Moses saw the promised land.

God took him on the glory only.

Tells Joshua that He passed, but he's, he was Enoch, Moses and Elijah were still alive and they went on to glory. Oh yeah, that's the thing. That's what makes it so interesting. And that's why when it came to the month of transfiguration, who was there, right? So anyway, I don't think we ever actually find like it's an ever rolling process. The moment we do find it, God's like great come home, right? And that's the thing about like God that like even I've been wrestling with personally is like the moment we find our essence, when we find ourselves, when we fulfill purpose. Like even look at Jesus. He fulfilled purpose and then the Father brought him home, right? Peter fulfilled purpose, he died, Paul feared purpose. Then he died. His goal was to get to the nations, he got to the nation. So I think God is a very peculiar way of the moment we fulfill purpose. It's a moment like death really occurs. And so I don't know if we ever truly find ourselves or think we're constantly in this quest, the journey of life. And then when we do find it, that's when people can get us confused with God and God brings us home. So I think it's possible to find it, but then death is going to come shortly after. That sounds very morbid, but it's very true.

Once we find our true identity, death.

Because that's when we get confused with Jesus.

That's hope everybody. Your true identity does shortcut, but that's.

When, that's when we get confused with Jesus.

Very true. I think when we get to too full of our identity, I think that is when, like you say all the time with funerals, when life gets too big for the body, that's when God tends to take you home.

That's it.

Yeah.

Crazy.

Identity to me is something that I've been thinking about and reflecting. We have a five year old son and Camden and he's, he's awesome.

He's.

He's pretty amazing. But as I like in this role as a parent, as a mother and just like even in my job I really like to look at identity of who I am. Like, like a brand, you know, like how companies like they have their brand and they have like a style or like this is just, you can just tell like even if like it's colors, you just kind of know based on the font, the color, like their brand is like this is what they put out and it kind of doesn't fall from, from there. Like I remember Chick Fil A, they started doing Burgers and some markets, and it's like, that's outside of your. Like, you, like, literally spent your entire career or whatever life of your brand on chicken. And then putting on burgers was just, like, weird. But so I look at it like that. And so I asked myself, like, in tough parenting moments or in tough life moments, like, is this on brand for me? Like, what do I stand for? Like, what. What's my style? What my relentless thing? Who am I to the core, right? Like, who am I as a person, as an individual, and then in each role in my life, like, how is that on brand? So, like, my parenting style? Pretty easygoing person, right? I hate yelling, disciplining. And that's on brand for me. When I, like, go and I parent, I'm very, like, easy. I hate it. I must rather just like, like, come on. Like, please don't make me do this to you. Please don't let me take toys away. Please don't. That's, like, kind of how I am as a person. Just like, come on. Like, I just love seeing, like, the, The. The rainbow in the clouds. And yeah, I always ask myself, like, whatever I'm doing, is that on brand for me? That kind of keeps me true to who I am and my identity. But again, what you're saying, I really think it is a. Ever evolving because we grow as people, right? And allowing ourselves to grow because who you were in elementary school or even high school, or somebody that you're not in your 30s, like, you. You should be completely different, right? Like, you know, you might still like the color purple, but there might be tons of different changes. And allowing ourselves to do that sometimes, though. And what are your thoughts? I don't think we give ourselves permission to grow or grow, but we don't kind of tell the world that we have grown.

No, I, I get that. I think. I get what you're saying. I think the. The difficulty is when the people we desire to celebrate our growth don't see it, right? So I think that's a difference. So it's like there's certain individuals that we see as markers of our growth or success, right? So whether it's parents, friends, loved ones, whatever it is, and if they don't see it, then we don't think you've grown, Right? So if our parents don't see that you've blossomed into whomever you become, then you haven't actually matured. Like, I remember when I went home one time for Christmas, and it was after we just met and I was studying scripture for fun in the kitchen. Fifteen minutes. When I woke up, 15 minutes after, before I went to bed and my mom, my sister, like, what are you doing? Right? And it was like, I'm studying scripture. Well, why are you doing that? And it was like, you think it'd be celebrated that you're studying scripture, but especially in a home full of like, two creatures, right? It's like, oh, he's like, you're studying two. This would be like a good thing. And it wasn't right. It was like, why are you doing that? That's. That's foolish. That's crazy. And it was like, I felt. I felt dumb. I felt down. I was like, well, now I'm lame. I'm over here studying scripture and we're here diving into the word of God for fun. And they thought it was. They thought it was lame. But I think it's really the issue with a lot of our growth is the people that we desire to celebrate the growth don't celebrate it. And then now I don't feel that I've grown. I'm down on myself or I'm growing now as a response or as resistance to people because I want them to see it. So therefore my growth and all that. So then I'm growing to please my mother, growing to please my father, going to please my friends, going to please those who went to high school with me, instead of actually growing into the person God's called me to be.

I think that becomes the.

The difficulty, right? So I think that, that that's the place. And so then you can't honestly grow because then you're. You're growing as a means to please others instead of growing as a means to. To grab a hold of who you are. And I think that's where a lot of us get not dejected. We get distracted and deterred into different lanes of growth. Because I'm not. I don't know, this work occurred to be happy. He talked about the ending. He said, there's a difference between self control and self reliance. So self control looks at like children, right? So when a child throws a temper tantrum, they're controlling their emotions to get something from their parents, right? When a child is a good child, they're controlling their emotions to get something from their parents. That all of our lives, they suggested in the book, all of our lives are lived to get something out of our parents.

I can see that.

Yeah. Like all of our lives, right? So, like, even if you're not tantrums, you are controlling your parents by your Emotions and then it goes on to college. It goes on like with what age you get married, what age by a car, which type of clothes you wear. Everything is lived to please our parents. And then when our parents die, when our parents move on, our parents don't care anymore. Parents get into a different relationship, parents focus or when another child is born. Now we don't know what to do because our whole lives were lived to please our parents. And so that's where they said like we live our lives, majority of our lives is self control. Like we're controlling everything around us. We're constantly. Our emotions become controlled. And so then that's why like college becomes just a hellfire because everybody goes to college. And like the most, the most attractive people are the ones that control everybody with their emotions. The people who have the most money are controlling people with their money. And people with the most athletic prowess are controlling people with their athletic prowess. People with the most academic skill. And so everything's about control.

Yeah.

And he said the growth comes when you stop being so controlling, designed to control others. Because our whole lives have been taught to control our parents with our emotions we become self reliant. This is who I am and I'm reliant on what my skills are, what God has blessed me to be. To actually fulfill what I know is possible cross compared to using who I am to control others. And without it that's where people get into like nepotism. Right. People get into positions of authority but all they know how to do is control people. Right. And so happiness comes when I'm self reliant and I meet another self reliant person. And together we're relying on the essence of our best selves and we love that person's best self. And then you're reliant upon together. They said that marriage is. Adler said that marriage is like a dance where you're dancing together and you're not finding someone to bring you to destiny. You're dancing together in destiny. And so move from control to reliance to dancing which growth is a very thing. Like.

Yeah, I like what you said there too. It's almost sounding like. And what I hear you saying that like as we grow in life that it's never. We really don't know the true essence of who we are. We like kind of conform to fit other people's views to get what we want out of life. Right. Like we, we're conforming, you know, to our. What our parents wanted to do that I also with that though I'm Curious to hear your thoughts. And also I have my own personal thoughts on thinking that. That's generational too, right? That's really generational. I actually think, like, the boomers, they were really like, rah, rah, rah, we're about to do our thing. Like, they went outside the mode. I really do. Then that silent generation, which is the next to gen actors, which they did, like, I feel like they're more conforming, right. They don't make too much of a resistance or rah, rah, rah. But as you see and as we go through generations, I think this newer generation, and even Gen Z and Gen Alpha, they are saying, like, no. Like, no. Like, I'm not conforming. And I think as society, we have a big problem with that because not only is it, okay, we learn to conform, to manipulate our parents to get what we want, but we put that and we impose that on other people. Right. Like we manipulate other people. Right. Like somebody said, like, parenting is one big manipulation, right? When they're hitting your child to do what you need them and want them to do. And we, like, impose that on people. And I think it's both. But as we look generationally. And I would love to hear your thoughts on that. Like, I think this newer generation coming up, and I think it's. It started with millennials and just increases more and more of this generation of saying what you say to us is not gonna go just because you said it or just because it's the status quo or just because it makes you feel comfortable like they are standing up. And so what are your thoughts on that?

Yeah, I think Gen Z is actually extremely conforming. If you look at.

Wow, really?

Yeah. So you look at boomers, builders. So look at the generation for them, right? Just like it skips a generation. They're very stale. They got the basic homes, suburbs. White generations got suburbs. Boomers came along, everybody should get a civil rights movement, women's rights, all of that type of stuff. That's boomers. They start moving, they start marching, they're resistant. Gen X comes along, you got just like the hippie phase, but that's really it. They really kind of chill. You say whatever, and then you come along. With millennials, we're really like resistant hip hop culture. Well, we're not just in 90s, but like, we're coming along with the big.com boom. All these dreams, all the Here come Gen Z. Gen Z just has the stuff to show off, but they're extremely conforming. They do exactly what they. They all do. The same thing. It's the same dances, it's the same clothing, it's the same culture. Everybody is, it's one big mosh posh. It's the same. Gen Alpha is the one that's coming a little different. They're like, no, we're gonna think this, this non gender identity, this all of like this constant like differences and funniness, all that like they're different. But it skips a generation. Gen Z is extremely conforming. Everybody dances, thinks the same. Every like it was like go against the norm. Everybody in Gen Z went against the norm. Black lives matter. Everybody in Gen Z is a black Asian livestream. Everybody. Gen Z. Now Jewel lives where everybody says July. Every time you look around, Gen Z is just like, what's one place to go? We're all doing this. We're all Red's popular. We're all this like our generation was like, no, Bush versus Obama, right? Or I forgot who else he was running against. But then here it's like, no, we're all for Biden or we're all for this, we're all for Trump. So Gen Z is very conforming. And you think about all the dances, all the social media. So the moment we got into co, Gen Z got on Tik Tok, everybody went on Tik Tok, everybody left Facebook. That's Gen Z. They're very, very conforming. They want, they are told. And this, I mean this is from the research as well. Not just that. When we talk about if we're getting to the church, I feel the largest group leaving the church is the nuns. The same group.

Explain what that is.

So the nuns are the people who are saying like we have no identity, no faith identity. Right. So the largest group leaving is the nuns. 80 something percent of them are Gen Z. One person leaves the church, we're all living the church. One person goes back to church. Welcome back to church. We like this preacher. Everybody likes this preacher. We like this person. We don't like this one. They're canceled immediately. And then we need to cancel people. We don't. But when it's like, oh, they said cancel it. Gen Z canceled. So is very conforming. Millennials aren't. We aren't. But Gen Z goes with the flow very much so. Right? So Jesus is popular. Jesus is popular now. So Jesus is cool again. You know, Jesus is cool. It was cool to go to traditional churches. Now it's not cool to go to traditional churches. And it's cool again. Like it's whatever. Gen Z, Gen Z is Conforming, just like boomers and just like. Sorry, just like Gen X and just like builders and just like the generation after it copies in essence. Because what's happening, if you notice it, our parents are boomers. We copy our parents. Right. We copy your parents. So, like, you copy your parents, not your mentors, but your parents. And so every generation skips because they're just copying our parents, more likely two generations back. Wow. And so we're just emulating what our parents did. Their love, their care. They're consistently how they did. So Cam is being raised under millennial parents.

Yeah.

You know, I got on Twitter early. You got on social media early. We got on things that we were innovators, not laggards. So Cam is going to do the very same thing. He's going to be on the phone early. He's going to be engaging with things early. That's. It skips a generation. And so that's very powerful.

I never really thought about it like that. No, that's. That's powerful of, like, being, performing and doing that and how we manipulate. Well, do you want to have a little fun?

Sure.

What's up? So, you know, I love my games. I love, like my Icebreakers, my little games. So I thought to get to the true, like, root of who we are, we could play a little game of this or that.

Okay.

Like game show music. Well, first, I love to ask. This is my absolute favorite question. But if you were. It's not my favorite question. My second favorite question. But if you were a fruit, what fruit would you be?

A great question. I only know a couple of fruit.

What? Just his fruit tasting is very limited. You know, like, he just. He ate a strawberry for the first time of us knowing together. Like, like who, like who just eats the strawberry in the last 10 years.

Let's see. Are grapes apart. Are grapes of fruit?

Yes, grapes are fruit.

I'll say grapes. Just because John 15, He removes that which has produced you fruit instead of produce more fruit. You're clean because the word was already in you. So remain in me and I remain in you. I don't know. I think. I think. I think more of a grape. I don't know. Probably seedless. No, I won't say seedless because you have to do something. A seeded grape on a vine. So I guess I'm more of a vine than a grape.

I said a fruit, not guess.

If we're going to get into it.

Probably more of a vinegar grapes.

I'm. I'm a bunch of grapes. Bunch of seed grapes. Seeded grapes. Table grapes. Well, I don't know now because I don't know if it's a wine grape or a.

Just what type of fruit and why a wine grape?

Well, I don't know if it's a wine grape cuz like, or if a. But then that's seasonal or regular table grape. That's too easily findable. I'm probably like a Burgundy cabernet grape. Bordeaux grape. You know, just like red seated cabernet grape.

Okay.

Because it's rare.

If Justin was a fruit, he would be a red seeded cabernet grape.

From Burgundy.

From Burgundy in France, the 70s.

That was a good year. It's a good weather.

I think that. I think the answer to that question really classified true to your identity.

What about you?

You are. If I were to say who I am, I would say a banana. What is that? A banana? Just regular. Like a. A ripe, but not too. Right. Like, not the brown. Well, maybe brown, black lives matter, but like. Like a regular banana that you eat. And I said that because I think the bananas, they're so. They're sweet and really sweet. I feel. I try to be. But they're like substance. Right? Like you can just eat a banana on the go and like, be okay. Like, you know, it'll keep you for a little bit. It sticks with you. It's. It kind of holds its weight. Yeah, it also is. It's vibrant, but it also has, like. It comes with its own case too. Like, it's like traveling case. It comes very resourceful because it was on like coat jacket. But then it's also very protected too, which I find very interesting and great. Like, once you just like peel back the layers of it, there's like so much more there. So I. I would say like a banana from. I don't have a loci. Are you a sweet or salty person?

Salty. I hate sweets.

Yeah. I don't see how. I am definitely getting free from the demon of sugar this year, but I shouldn't say that. I should. Next month, okay? It's better. I'll start next month. Tomorrow.

That's the busiest of one day. One day I'm gonna do it.

One day I'm gonna be freed from sweets. But I'm absolutely a sweet person. Are you more. And I think we can answer this question together of who you are. But are you more go with the flow or are you more high Structured?

Yeah, it's got to be structured.

Gotta be structured.

I'm not. I'm not a. No, it has to be do lists and time frames. I get antsy when meetings get past 57 minutes. I can't do it. Like if it can't be on the 57 minutes. It didn't even editing.

You were on a meeting today and I could just feel the tension in your body. We were like in two separate rooms, but I just heard you. I was on a call myself and I was like, I don't know how he's going to end it. Cuz whoever was talking was like really in the midst of it, like really talking. And it wasn't sounding like it was going to be over anytime soon. And I could just feel the tension of you being ready to go.

No, 57 minutes is my limit on meetings. After salutations, salutations and all of that. You have 57 minutes.

That's a long time.

It's a long time. And that should have been an email more than likely. But 57 minutes and then once you hit 57 for me, I'm ready to conclude this thing. Because meetings don't need to be going longer than that. Then we just get into fluishness.

Believe it or not, I'm highly structured too. Yes, I am. Yes I am, Jess. Yes I am.

Since when?

I'm very highly structured.

Since when?

People don't know that. People really don't. So that's the thing. Like that's why I said a banana. Like everybody around me, like everybody. My mom, you people I work with, anybody that I come. People I went to college with. Probably. Probably. Like I remember I was in. I was in this like honors course in college. Right. I've just never been the type of person where you're gonna like CB in the library. You're never gonna just like see me work. I. Nobody will ever see me work. But I always like get it done. I'm very organized, very quietly. But then to the masses I put. I put out like go with the flow. But I'm very like under. Under it all. I run off of a very tight schedule. But I'm. But I have a go with the flow personality. But I guess I should say like this things that I really care about. I'm very highly structured because I want them to go well. So like trips. Because I've. I've been on things that didn't have a structure and it just. Just a waste of time. Went on a vacation once we were friends and we had no agenda and that was a bad idea. So I've just learned to be really structured in the things that I care about and go. I want Everybody to have fun. I don't like to come across. I don't. I think that's very. Like when people are like, you have to follow by this. Like, I would never impose mine, but for me, like, deep down, I would never, like, show you a schedule. You'll never see my to do list, but it's there.

I get it. I get it.

That's funny.

That's funny.

I was going to ask you red or white wine, but I have a follow up question after this one.

Oh, red wine.

Okay.

100%.

What do you think wine is?

Huh?

What do you think White. It is like. Yeah, I don't think I like rose.

Really?

I try to.

Oh, yeah.

No, maybe sparkling.

You don't need to be drinking.

I'm into Prosecco.

Cheap Prosecco. That is so unfortunate.

I'm just playing.

No.

What is your favorite wine of.

All time that I've had or haven't had?

How can you say it's your favorite?

No, there's something I really want to try.

Okay, well, you can get the. That you've had and something that you want to try.

So there. Well, my favorite wine of all time would definitely be a 2015 Austin Hope Cabernet that I've had. It's probably the best wine I've ever had.

The one I got you. Yeah, that was 2016. I thought it was the year I had 20.

Then I had a 2015. So the 2015 is the best year they ever made. I had one of those probably at a tasting room. So 2015 Austin Hope Cabernet Sauvignon with a blue label from Austin Hope Impossible Rebels is easily the best one I've ever had. Let's see what I really want to try. There's. There's a grand crew from the castle. I can't remember the last part of it in Burgundy from 26. That goes for like $2,000 a bottle, but I hear is, like, life changing. And I just really want to try it. If I ever get. I ever get to Burgundy and I can get into this castle. Like, I can see it. It was on a show I watched, then I read up on it. But there's this Burgundy. Like, I just want to. I want to get a Grand Cru Burgundy the region. But yeah, that's probably the one wine I really want to try. But. But, yeah, no, Austin Hope. I've tried to, like, I tried more expensive wines and all that. Nothing compares to that. That, and secondly would easily be the 2018 Petite Syrah from Theopolis Vineyards. Cory thought it was like syrup.

It was like called syrup, but it was good. Shout out. She's a black wine maker.

And it's.

A really good one. The other one that I tried from there was good Theopolis.

Yeah, it's great wine. You can't get to a tasting. She has like barbecues and stuff. But. But yeah, no, that's probably bad. And thirdly, I'm trying to think like, third, I can't think of like ones that I've had since then. Austin Hope Theopolis. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah. Those main two other ones I've tried, but nothing has really ever gotten up to that level. That Austin Hope is just a. It might be like, a lot of times winemakers say, like, it's not necessarily like, that's your favorite. It's just the first one that kind of opens your eyes to the most line of wine. Right? So like, that's. So it may not be like your favorite wine, but it just opened your eyes so you never get it again. Because that bottle, once it's empty, is. It's all you got in it. But you just, you can't. That's your first one that was like, wow, like you really opened your palette to something. And then Austin Hope did that. That theorem I had, I want to get another tasting room. That theorem was phenomenal. My mom gave me that tasting room is like 250 per person to get into. Like, it's a great place, beautiful area. But yeah, that theorem from 2019 was pretty good too, that they're 100% cabernet grapes. They just started doing white wine, but I want, I want to get in that taste syndrome. It's just way too expensive.

That's wild.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

Cool. Well, thank you, Court.

Yeah, thank you for having me.

So we'll do this every second week where Courtney will join us in the podcast. And I think it'd be fun to have a switcheroo for Made for Monday. So thank you guys for joining today. You get some ads on your way out and we'll see you guys on next week. Bye. Well, hey, Made for Monday's listeners. Justin here. I'm on here to give a shameless plug about. Well, my book. I wrote a book called Necessary Endings. This book is simply a book detailing. It's called Some things need to die for you to live. It details four different funerals that I believe you need to have to go on a journey of mental well being and mental success. I pray that you take a moment to go ahead and grab it. You can Grab it on my website@jr Lester.com or on Amazon. It's a book that addresses mental health, faith journeys, relationships, friendships, everything in between. Prayerfully, it'll help you be all that you need to be everything God's called you to be. So go ahead, take a copy of Necessary Endings. Some things need to die for you to live. Available on Amazon or jrlester.com thank you. Well, thank you for joining us for Made for Mondays, Justin, and I'm so grateful that you guys did so today. If you want to get in contact with me, please feel free to go to my website, www.jrlester.com. you can find me on Facebook @justinrlester and our public page and simply like or message us on there. And also on our website, jrlester.com you can see a copy of the books that we've written, the notes that we've given out as well, and the work that we're doing and the videos we've recorded and places we've spoken. I hope that something you say or do helps you be all that God has called you to be. That's all I'm here for. I want you to live and I want you to thrive and I want you to be all that God's called you to be. Listen, would you say our mantra with us, with me today? Simply repeat after me. Say, I am me, I can be me, and no one will stop me from being me. Have an amazing day. You are amazing.