Carrye’s Story

Thank you so much for being here tonight. Uh, we really appreciate you and your time and want to welcome you to our weekly, uh, testimonial call on Thursdays at 5 PM Pacific Standard Time. I'm Dr. Caroline Williams. Uh, I am a functional medicine practitioner and I practice currently in Las Vegas, Nevada. I've been practicing for about 23 years. And I first learned about LifeWave about a year and a half ago, almost 2 years now. And I was— it was introduced to me as a solution that I needed for a patient that was having a challenge that I really didn't have any other way to solve, and it was a major sleep issue, and it worked a miracle. She does have— for this, for this person. And, um, ever since then I've been using it with patients, and I'm just grateful to know about it and to have it as a, again, a tool to help people that are seeking a better quality of life and better outcomes with their overall health, and including reversing the aging process. So, all right, so, um, my co-host tonight is Nikki Lea McCutchen, and, uh, she is a great team member. And Nikki, you want to go ahead and give our disclaimer?

Yes, thank you so much, Dr. Caroline. We are so excited that you all are here tonight. Just please know that someone really cares about you to want you to know about this technology and invite you to the call tonight. Our call will be for about 30 minutes And if we have new people on the call, we're going to be talking about the X39 patch that activates this amazing peptide in our bodies. And hopefully Dr. Caroline will have a few minutes to answer your questions. Um, Dr. Caroline is most likely not your doctor, so tonight the information we'll be sharing is for informational purposes only. If you have any medical conditions, please check with your physician or healthcare practitioner. All LifeWave patches are not intended to treat, cure, diagnose, or prevent any disease. If you're on medications or have a medical condition or are pregnant or nursing, please check with your physician first. Dr. Caroline, would you like to introduce Carrie to us tonight? Carrie, we're so excited to hear your story.

Yes, Carrie Putz, thank you so much for coming on the call tonight. Carrie has been my patient for, I want to say, going on 4 years now. And so we've got November 2018. Yeah. Yeah. So, wow, that's like 5 years. That's amazing. Yeah. So, Carrie, you have— I just love you to death. You're just such an amazing person. You've just been an awesome patient and you were all open to like trying these patches. And I just can't wait to hear like what your experience has been so far. I know some of the things because we've talked about it when you've come in for your follow-ups. But yeah, I just excited to hear your story. So I wanted to know how, how have you been doing with the patches? What have you experienced thus far?

Well, in June of 2022 is when I started with the patches and I did the 15-day cellular regeneration protocol. Which kind of like was to help me like jumpstart detox and get me going. And I continue to use maintenance, the X39, X49, the EON depends on how I'm feeling. I've noticed my changes have been subtle but significant. I, I have more energy. I feel better. Um, and then let's see, when, when did we start? I think it was in the fall of, fall of '22, like August. Um, I have— I was diagnosed as hypothyroid, and I have been on Synthroid for decades. Almost 3 decades. So, uh, after my experience in working with Dr. Caroline, I decided I wanted to get off the Synthroid and move to a more natural, um, support for my thyroid. And as part of that, I did the, the, um, LifeWave thyroid support protocol. And, um, I've done well, and I have adjusted very well to the, the, uh, natural Eco Thyroid that, um, I've been taking. And I think that's thanks to the LifeWave, and my numbers have been great. And, um, as of, as of today, I have no prescription medications.

Awesome. Awesome. That's amazing. The other thing too, I know we talked about when you come in is when you would get your eye exams, you know, some of the things that your optometrist talked about. I know one of the things that we were trying to prevent was an increase in cataract and really just to try to maintain the health of your eyes and improve the health of your eyes. And, you know, we're using some nutrition for that as well. But that's definitely— yeah.

Yes, I had my annual follow-up in December, and everything is great. He does the— he has a new diagnostic tool. Called an Optiomap 3D, and they can go in and take— they take a picture of the inside of your eyeball and they can see your maculars, they can see your retina, your blood vessels, everything. And he, he was very pleased with what he saw because there's no signs of high cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes. You know, everything looks structurally very healthy. My retinal connections are great. There's no sign of macular degeneration, you know, and the cataract has not grown, not moved, and it's not ready for surgery. He says I have a long way to go. It's still just kind of there.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's excellent. So, um, I know, like, consistently when we've checked your, um, blood work, when we've looked at diagnostics, I mean, you've been really healthy overall. I mean, you're like— your metabolic panel has always been, for the most part, it's been great. You know, kidney and liver function has been really good. Um, blood sugar, for the most part, has been really good. Um, you've just not had a lot of issues where those things are concerned. But definitely, you know, consistently through the time that we've worked together, you know, that's been the case, you know, which is great because there really wasn't a lot wrong, right? There really wasn't a lot of stuff that we had to improve. Like you said, the thyroid, that's definitely something that, you know, we've always needed to work on and But you've always been really good about following dietary recommendations and you've always been excellent with, you know, any kind of supplemental recommendations. And now with the patches in addition, I feel like the patches, if you've already been doing all those things for yourself, the patches just take things to a whole nother level, you know? So yeah, yeah. So that's been excellent. And what about when you have been active, physically active, have you noticed a difference with recovery or strength or any of those type of things?

It's all improved. If I, you know, if I, I'm using the X39, X49, I can do more. I can exercise longer. I really like the water aerobics and I can do an hour of water aerobics, no problem, and a very short recovery time. Excellent.

Yeah, that's great. That's great.

Yeah.

Well, good. Well, good. Do you— does anybody have any questions for Carrie about what she's sharing? Yes.

Yeah. So, Carrie, tell me if I have this right. So you've probably been on the patches for about 16 months. Is that right?

June 2022, yes.

Okay, awesome. So cool. And then, so did you— a couple of questions. Did you notice anything like when you did the 15-day detox? So that is one. And then another question I had, could you walk us through thyroid, um, support protocol and where your patches went and what patches you were using?

Um, I just did the, the thyroid protocol, uh, short-term for for like 6 weeks. And, um, I, I just, uh, haven't, haven't needed them again. But I, I— it's available, you know, if I think, um—

but where did you put, where did you put the patches and what patches were you using? Oh, it's been a while since you've done it. Maybe you don't remember. That's okay.

No, no, I— it's, it's on my phone and it's like I can't get to my phone because I'm on Zoom. Um, did I write it down?

I can always share it in the chat as well, what I had her doing. I'll share it in our, um, in the Native Sun chat, that protocol that I had her doing.

That's awesome. Yeah.

Yes.

So then did you notice anything like when you did the 15-day detox? Did you— what did you experience on that?

Um, like an improvement in energy, um, a lot of elimination. I had drank— you have to— that's one thing that I was cautioned on is drink plenty of water because you do, uh, you do flush your system. Yeah. And it's like better sleep, um, deeper sleep, you know, my quality of sleep was better.

Yeah, that's great.

My energy level was better.

Yeah. Are you just— are you just wearing the X39 and X49, or do you also wear the carnosine for your eyes, or what are you wearing?

Um, basically I, um, just use the X39 and X49 and, uh, the Eon. Yeah, for my eyes, I, um, that has been the, the bilberry supplement.

Yeah, the nutrition.

And I think just the, the combination of the supplement and the, the way the, the patches have worked for me. Absolutely.

Yeah, that's awesome. Thank you so much.

You're welcome.

There's, there is some evidence that the carnosine can help with cataracts. So I'll actually share an article in our Native Sun WhatsApp group the other day that was like a third-party article about all the benefits of carnosine, which there's, there's a tremendous amount because it can help with the effects of glycation. So it can help with Alzheimer's, right? Any kind of anywhere you would get plaque, it can help with that. So we get plaque in the brain with, with Alzheimer's. Cardiovascularly as well, similar, right? Because that's actually— we get plaque in that area too, the eyes as well. But carnosine is also shown to benefit individuals that have cataracts. So I'll send that to you, Carrie, because I don't think I've sent that to you before, but I'll send that to you as well.

That was a really good article. Thank you for sharing that, Dr. Caroline. It was really great.

Yeah.

And I did, I did notice that it talked about cataracts. With carnosine in that article as well.

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And I think it's great when you have third-party articles like that because, um, we get a certain amount of education through LifeWave, but there's a lot more information out there that we have available to us in terms of how we can recommend this technology in these patches. Um, and I think it's good to, you know, share that information so that we can see how many people that we can help, you know.

So then, Dr. Caroline, how would the, um, how would the X39 and the X49 affect the thyroid?

I mean, you know, the X39, you know, because it's a stem cell patch and because if there's damage to any area, there's damage to the thyroid, it can help repair that damage. For the X39. And like a lot of times with the information that we share, anytime there's even any DNA damage, the X39 can help with that, right? So, and there's so many things that I'm not sure how much everybody's aware on here of this, but the endocrine glands are extremely sensitive to toxins, to chemicals, to whether they be, you know, in our food, in our water, in our air. The endocrine system is very sensitive, and toxins can accumulate there because there's fat in those glands, for one. It's interesting. I don't know how familiar everybody is on here with Weston Price's work, but he lived in the early 20th century, and he was researching, like, why Indigenous cultures, their health started to decline dramatically after they started consuming what he called foods of commerce, which are, you know, white flour and sugar and, you know, all these refined foods. And what he, along with some other people prior to him, determined was the very first thing affected when you consume sugar is the endocrine system. So the endocrine system is one of the first things, right? Because that's the, that's the bridge between the nervous system picking up information. The next thing that's affected is the endocrine system. The hypothalamus is the, the hypothalamus is the bridge between the nervous system and the endocrine system. And that's your body's chemical messenger system to tell your body how to respond to anything. Your nervous system does its job as well where that's concerned, but your endocrine system is very sensitive. And so the thyroid is, you know, pretty easily affected by things. And so as far as damage is concerned, the potential for DNA damage where the thyroid is concerned, especially over a lifetime, is— the potential is high, right? So, so anyway, so the X X39 can very much benefit thyroid function, in my opinion, and the X49 can affect metabolism. And the thyroid and the adrenals work together to create a person's metabolism. Those things work together. And so it's really important to maintain the health of those two, two things. You can't live without either one of those. You can't live without the thyroid and you cannot live without the adrenals either. So they are definitely essential to life. And so that's why, you know, if somebody is not making adequate amounts of thyroid hormone, that has to be replaced in some way, you know. So both of those together work really well. And in addition to things that would help eliminate toxins. So then, then I would also be thinking, you know, the glutathione is beneficial for that. Right? So, and Eon is beneficial for any kind of healing capacity. I mean, that just sets the stage for healing to occur. You have to be in the right state for healing to happen, and that's what Eon does, is it gets you into that state. So that really plays a significant role there. And that's why a lot of times when we get questions about what patches to use, almost all the time you will you will see me say Aeon as one of the patches because it decreases inflammation, it sets the stage for healing. Um, you know, even children, right, they can benefit from the Aeon. You wouldn't necessarily use all the patches with children, but definitely the Aeon is a great one for sure. So depending on the situation, right? But yeah. So yeah, so those, those patches are very beneficial. The Energy Enhancer, I feel like, could be beneficial as well for the thyroid because again, it helps with that converting fat into usable energy and it's going to help activate that effect. And so, you know, it's beneficial for the, for the thyroid as far as the Energy Enhancer is concerned.

Um, Dr. Caroline, I just sent you the, uh, protocol that I used. Yeah, and I used the glutathione, X39, uh, carnosine, and Aeon. Okay, and then a 5-day energy enhancer detox.

Yes. Okay, I'm gonna share it here. Give me one second. I'm gonna just send it to myself really quick, and then I'll share it on there so that you guys can see that.

So you found your, your thyroid protocol that you did, uh, Carrie? I'm sorry, was that you found the the thyroid protocol that you did?

Yes.

Okay.

Yes, I did.

Yeah.

So, and they're all— most of them were like on the, on the head and neck, the patches.

Okay.

Mhm. Yeah, I'll share it with you guys.

And you said you did that protocol for how long?

Um, several weeks.

Okay.

Because, you know, you get the packet of the, the patches and I just used them until the patches were gone.

Oh, okay. Very good.

I've used that protocol with a few patients. I've alternated it with a protocol for the endocrine system as a whole. And I've done that with a few people. Let me open that up and share it here.

Did you notice anything? Did you feel anything, Carrie, when you were wearing those patches?

One of the things that is in it, and it happened when anytime I adjusted my thyroid medication, I get a lot of sinus congestion. A lot of, um, congestion. Uh, don't really have a cough, but it's just a lot of mucus production in my sinuses and in my, um, it's all in my head.

Mhm.

And so that, that was affected during the— while you were doing the protocol?

Yes.

So that got better.

It was part of like a, a detox for, for me. It was just detoxing and—

Yep. Yeah. Can you guys see the screen? I'm sharing it.

Yeah, we can, or I can see it.

Okay. Um, yeah, I mean, mucus production is a detox response. Um, and not everybody's necessarily familiar with that. A lot of people think mucus is just pathogen related, but it's actually toxin related as well. So a lot of times when people will start a detox, they'll actually produce more mucus temporarily to mobilize toxins because, you know, when you're detoxing, you are activating, moving toxins out of storage areas. And so many times you'll actually produce more mucus to do that. And so that's definitely a detox symptom, especially if you haven't changed your diet or done anything like that. You know, yeah, so, um, you can see the two glutathiones, one at the sternum or the episternal notch, and then down below the belly button. And then X39 is on the back of the base of the neck. Carnosine is on the left side of the thyroid and eon is on the right. And you're doing 5 days of the detox energy enhancer only. So when you, you know, that, uh, severe symptoms protocol, the energy enhancer recommendations for that, that's what you're doing for, uh, 5 days. So yeah, very good.

And can you tell us, Dr. Caroline, a little bit about, um, like not being afraid of the detox symptoms or how the the, the how the detox is actually good, whereas some people it kind of freaks them out when they're having a detox symptom?

Yeah, I think the freakout is probably just not understanding that it's necessary, um, that anytime you're detoxing you should experience the effects of that. That's evidence that it's working, number one, and it's always temporary. Things are always changing, right? And so Um, what— how I describe, and I did this earlier with someone today, how I describe, um, detoxing is it is a— you start at, you know, you're starting at baseline, and when you start the detox, you start climbing up, right? Start moving up in terms of your symptoms, and then you'll get hit a point where you'll peak. Those symptoms will peak., and then you'll start going down the other side. And that's the same with detoxification as it is with clearing a pathogen. You go through the same process. Um, a lot of what we've learned today through, you know, conventional medicine's influence is that that's not normal, maybe, and that if you are experiencing that, then you need to suppress press the symptoms of that. Um, but yeah, I'm, I'm— I disagree with that. Um, you really just need to go through it, and you can do it in a way that is tolerable for you as an individual. If you were experiencing nothing and you were doing these things, then I would question what was even happening, you know. So the fact that you're experiencing the detoxification which you should be, um, and we can do it at a tolerable level, it's something that you want to embrace because it means that change is happening and you will— it will— you're not going to experience that forever. It's a temporary experience. When you get on the other side of it, you are truly better. You've truly, you've truly improved your, um, the state of your internal being, you know, you've, you've truly improved it. It's not an illusion where if you just take something to suppress your symptoms, you might feel better, but you're not actually better. Like, all that is still there, you know. And so, um, you want to allow for that, is my opinion, to really make progress, right? Yeah. Yeah, Pastor Ed.

Yeah, thanks, Carrie. What a wonderful testimony you've given us. I like to— and I've been in the company for 2 and a half years, so I know how wonderful this product is. But what you described to us, it almost sounds too good to be true. Okay, so I'm going to put— I'm going to play the devil's advocate. No pun intended.

Place.

Um, but I want to ask you how— and, and I might have missed this, but did you— to check your thyroid, to know that you were feeling better, were there any tests or exams that Dr. Caroline did on you?

Yes, uh, we did a full blood panel. Okay. And, um, uh, and that, that included, you know, Oh, T3 uptake, T4. There were several, um, instances of that.

Yeah.

Okay.

Now, and, and just physically, you know, I— my skin was, um, not so dry. It was clear. Um, my hair was, uh, thicker. Um, you know, that's where I can usually tell if there's some— my thyroid is off is my hair and my teeth. And, um, you know, so I could tell I was not shedding my hair as much. Um, it— my hair was much healthier. And even the person that cuts my hair had asked me, uh, if I had changed shampoos or something, or if I was taking some new vitamin, because my hair was noticeably different.

Wow. Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. I know how wonderful Dr. Caroline is. Before her, how long have you been dealing with your thyroid issues?

Oh, close to 30 years.

Wow.

So you have to tell me, within, within 3 to 4 weeks, you're You're a lot better. It shows by your blood panel. That's just amazing.

I'm just— Well, actually, I did the patches for 3 to 4 weeks, and then I was transitioning while I was— when I first stopped the Synthroid and started taking the EcoFibroid.

Wow.

Yeah.

Thank you so much. Yeah, yeah, we, we did— we do regular panels to see where her thyroid levels are at, and we're checking, you know, TSH, T4, free T3, like she'd mentioned, T3 uptake. Um, we're checking all of those things on a regular basis to see where things are at, and she's just done really well, um, with her thyroid, especially with that transition, because, um the patch use along with switching her from a synthetic thyroid replacement to a glandular thyroid replacement. That's what we did. And so, yeah, she's done really good with that. And all the symptoms she mentioned are hypothyroid symptoms, you know, like dry skin, hair loss, you know, fatigue. You know, there's, there's many others besides that, but her hypothyroid symptoms improved. That's something that a lot of people don't know too, is when you're taking this synthetic thyroid replacement, your numbers could actually look good with testing, but you could still have hypothyroid symptoms. You could still have the dry skin, you could still have the hair loss, you could still have things like that even though your numbers look okay. And, um, You know, there's nothing like the human body in terms of, you know, our body is our best pharmacy, you know, that you're ever going to have. And us trying to consciously do the thyroid replacement like our body just does naturally, it's like we can't compete, you know. So, you know, anything that we can do to help support the body's own production of things, that's one of the reasons I have to say, you guys, I love these patches for that reason because they're not putting chemicals or they're not putting anything into the body other than light frequency. That's it, you know. So they're stimulating your own production of things, which again is superior to an exogenous approach. It's superior. So like, you know, even the article I shared the other day with the group on carnosine, You know, he was recommending in their carnosine supplements. Our patch is so much better, so much better than a carnosine supplement. It's going to work so much better than a carnosine supplement. And my whole thing is like, that's what these doctors need to understand or know, because I mean, they probably be recommending the patch too, but they just probably don't even know that it exists, honestly, you know. Or else they'd be all over that, you know. So, um, the patches are truly amazing what they do, and they work with the innate intelligence to help us produce our own, you know, physiology, to help produce the things that our body can produce, right? Like, we don't need exogenous forms of these things. So It's pretty amazing.

And I just want to clarify too that I had done the 15-day cellular regeneration protocol a couple of months before I did these. I started my transition from the Synthroid to the EcoThyroid, and, and that's— so I'd already done that part before I did the thyroid protocol. So I think I was set up for, you know, success.

Yeah.

Yeah. By doing that, that 15-day, because that was— it's pretty intense to me. You know, there was— there's 5 patches you wear during the day and 3 at night.

And yeah. Yeah. You're definitely wearing a lot of patches, which is good, which— but, but that's really, like you said, that's the point is to It's like hitting a reset button. So, you know, I wanted all of you guys to go through that process before we moved on to any of the other more specific protocols, because I did feel like it would increase your, uh, success rate. You would notice a difference faster that way.

Yeah.

All right. Well, anybody else have any other questions tonight?

Dr. Caroline, did you want to answer, um, Sandy's question that she had texted you?

Yeah, Sandy, do you want me to talk about that a little bit?

Sure. Uh, Steve's been wearing the patches faithfully, but we just wanted to kind of know if there was different placement to be working on. He's lost, uh, how much weight have you lost, Steve? 20, 22 pounds.

Wow, that's amazing.

3 months. Wow, that's great. And, uh, he's on a new injection called Trulicity. It's not, um, insulin, but it's to help protect his kidneys.

Okay.

Um, and his glomerular filtration rate is only 32. So our hope is to maybe reverse that kidney damage. Um, and there's been such great testimonies with LifeWave that, um, Steve wanted to make sure he was putting on the best places for him.

Yeah, the other, um, in addition to the, the 39, um, and Eon, I would, I would actually, uh, look at carnosine that we talked about earlier because, um, when there's type 2 diabetes involved, the, the effects of that is what can damage the kidneys, right? So the type 2 diabetes effects is what could damage the kidneys, just like it could damage the eyes or other aspects. And so Carnosine is really the one to help with that type of damage. I mean, X39 too, because that helps with any kind of damage. But the carnosine would be a good one when it's related, in my opinion, to type 2 diabetes. So the carnosine would be excellent. I can send you a protocol for the kidneys. Okay.

Yeah, uses the X49 real regularly. So those 3 he, he uses real regularly. 39, 49, and Eon.

Eon. Yeah.

And the Carnosine, he'd been, we've been putting that on his lower leg to heal up that ulcer.

Yeah. How's that going?

How's that going? Is it scabbed over? Yeah. It's scabbed over now. So yeah, that's for months it wasn't scabbed over. So that's a really big improvement.

Yeah, that's great. That's great. Water consumption, fluid consumption like water is really important. That one's really important. In addition to the patches, just because of how it affects the kidneys as well. Do you know how much water he's consuming? Like how many ounces a day, you think?

Would you say you're drinking 2 quarts, 3 quarts? Probably 2 quarts of water and then sometimes a little sparkling water, just plain, like with some lime or something in it.

I gotcha.

Okay, between 2 to 3, I'd say 3 would be a good day. 2 would be average for him.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because with any time you're trying to work on improving the health of the kidneys, we want to make sure hydration is there, that, that, that, that you're consuming enough water for the cleansing process to take place. That one's really important too. So yeah, I will. I'll send you recommendations on that as well. Does he drink anything other than those two things? Does he drink coffee or anything like that?

He has coffee maybe on Sunday. He'll drink lactose-free 2% milk, maybe a cup a day.

Okay. All right. But that's about it. Okay. All right. It just helps me to know. I mean, if he's just drinking it occasionally, that's okay. If it was a daily thing, I would say we might want to look at that just temporarily, um, you know, not doing that. But it doesn't sound like that's the case.

So no coffee. What about tea? Tea too?

No tea. I mean, it's just those— I've noticed a difference even with myself. Like, I stopped drinking coffee. It was a recommendation, um, from somebody else that was looking at my skin specifically, and they were saying, yeah, I can tell you're a coffee drinker, and my skin was very dehydrated chronically, and I had other symptoms of dehydration too. Um, and so I went ahead and just gave up the coffee pretty much totally. Occasionally I might have some, but, um, now— but not on a daily basis like I was. And it's just like within probably the last 3 months, my skin is just completely different. My skin is different. Yeah. And so, um, kidneys are very affected by dehydration. Um, I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but the number one cause of kidney stones is dehydration. And so that's just a good example, right? And so hydration is just extremely important for the health of your kidneys. And, um, you want to certainly look at how much water you're consuming, but you also want to look at things that are dehydrating, you know. Yeah, so it really can make a difference just to cut out those things. You just— it just can be like night and day, truly. Yeah, so, but it doesn't sound like he's doing those things, you know, similar to like if somebody was, um, drinking alcohol even socially, if they were doing it weekly, it's gonna it's going to take a toll, you know. But if he's not doing those type of things, that's good because it's just— we don't have to worry about that. We just want to increase the water consumption for sure. But I think that he's using the carnosine on his leg. I think it's great. I'll send you a protocol for the kidneys. Right. And but the carnosine is definitely one of those things that can help besides the X39 can help repair the damage that the effects of type 2 diabetes causes.

That's awesome. Because he said the diabetes for probably 15 years, so quite a while.

Yeah.

So you can just start by preventing it from getting worse.

Yes.

And then, yeah, and you can reverse the effects. That's possible. Um, obviously, you know, it sounds like he's already done a lot to help. Like, losing that weight helps a lot, you know, that can help a lot. Um, and if he can maintain a healthy blood sugar, that's— or, you know, that's key, right? So that, so that more damage is not occurring.

Yeah, they were— for several months they, they were trying to mess with his medicine, and it was staying at like 275 to 300. But when you say, is it averaging what, 150? Maybe 170. So like 100 points lower is huge.

That's— yes, that is huge. That is huge. Yes. Way better than where it was because that high you're talking about in the upper 200s, 300s, damages for sure occurring at that level, you know? So The fact that it's dropped down as much as it has, that's extremely helpful.

Yes. So yeah, so those are some really big improvements and we really appreciate all of the patches and the input regarding that.

Yeah, I know, that's great.

You maybe, you were going to send me some information you had said, so you had some ideas on some other things to help.

Well, one of the things, yeah, in addition to, in addition to the LifeWave patches, infrared infrared light is very beneficial for wound healing. And, you know, I haven't— I have a video that shows that they were using the red light or not just red light because there's red light for collagen production and there's near-infrared for wound healing. And the near-infrared, they were literally using it on people who had gangrene in like their toes. And they were scheduled for amputation. And, uh, just with a short use of the near-infrared, and they didn't have to have their toes amputated. The blood flow came back and the repair happened, and they were able to keep their toes. So it's pretty dramatic. Yeah. So, yeah, so in addition to the patches, something like that, you would apply it directly to the area though, the near-infrared. Um, I have one in my office that is a— it's called a Soluma, and it emits blue, red, and near-infrared, those three, three lights. And you can just, you can just put it on the near-infrared setting and then you just put it over the area that you want to promote the healing. So that in addition to the patches, it would just take things to a whole nother level. And, you know, you could use that daily, actually. I know in my office I would rent it out to patients so that they could use it daily. Instead of coming into my office every day, I would just rent it to them. So, you know, I would think it was more affordable that way too, because I just charged like for the month or for the week instead of for per visit. So it was a little bit more affordable.

Yeah.

And then somebody could always, like, if they just wanted to try it out and use it, they could do it that way. The other thing is they could use is buy one for yourself because there's, you, there's like units out there now that you can buy and they're portable. You know, it's not like you have to buy some big piece of equipment. It's just a small thing that will fit around the area and it's totally affordable, but that would also be helpful for wound healing. Okay. Yeah. But I'll see if I can find the video because it's only like 15 minutes. Okay.

Yeah. You, you were going to— I don't want to take up time on this call, but you were going to send me some information that you had in mind to help me with all of the nausea and the diarrhea and the stuff that I was going through. And it was some different things. So different topic.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

I'll send you some information.

Yeah.

I want to send you some information on, because I know we talked about PPIs and the effects of PPIs.

Yeah.

Proton pump inhibitors.

I'm off of it now, and I'm still having gastric reflux, but it's not as bad.

Not as bad.

But I took 6 weeks to wean off of that. So it's quite the ordeal.

Yeah, um, I'll send you— can you do something for me? Um, can you send me your email again, your email address again? Because I'm gonna just email you some questions, and I'm gonna send you that video, and I'm gonna send you some information on PPIs just so you understand how some of what you've experienced could be related to that, you know.

Would that Uh, Saloma, uh, Nikki, do you know, would that be the same light that Lori Wood has and uses all the time?

Oh, it's different.

It's different.

Yeah, hers is a, um, PEMF, um, which is, which is good as well. That one's great, but that's a different— that's different. Um, but that's beneficial too. Um, it's just for wound healing. The— well, you'll see because in the video they show it. I mean, they show like case studies in the video, like this was before, this is after, and this is how much they used it over this period of time. So you'll see that, you know, with the PEMF, it, it helps you in a different way. Um, and, uh, definitely beneficial as well, but just in a different way.

Okay, okay.

Um, so I will send you— I will email you those things. Awesome. Yeah, well, thanks for being on the call, everybody. Um, Carrie messaged me, so she said she lost the connection. So, um, yeah, I was— I appreciated her being able to come on the call tonight and share her experience, and I'm excited to, uh, see her results in another, you know, 2 to 6 months, um, with her eyes, with her eye health, and as well as her thyroid. But she's been such a great patient, like, she really has not had a lot of, um, her diagnostics look pretty good overall for the most part, so we just want to keep her in great health is what we want to do. All right.

Absolutely. Thank you so much, Dr. Caroline, for tonight. We really appreciate it. And we so appreciate all of you being here. So thank y'all so much for joining us tonight.

Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Caroline.

Thank you. Good night. Good night.

See you next week.

Thank you, Nikki. Thanks.

Good night. God bless.

Have a great evening. You too.

Good night.