The Light Effect Live

the symbol of an eye next to the live.

So, okay, well, hopefully whoever's here, welcome. We're so excited that you're here. Please feel free to use the chat. Um, you can definitely ask questions. What's amazing is that— so this is the Light Effect Live with Dr. Caroline Williams. We're always so excited when she gets to come and join us. Obviously, you have this amazing functional medicine doctor who can answer questions. Obviously, she knows all things health. Um, but we are going to be specifically talking about a technology that is a wearable light technology that activates your own body's regenerative cells. And truly, we're watching it change lives all the time. And so it's so exciting, and I just get— I get to watch miracles all the time. It's absolutely such a blessing. Um, but yeah, if you have questions about whatever it might be, you can ask, uh, in the chat for Dr. Caroline. Um, and we're going to just start with how we got introduced to the technology. So I actually had a shoulder and elbow injury, and I had been going to see a chiropractor for 5 months. Love chiropractors. They're fantastic. But unfortunately, it was just keeping me stable, you know, kind of in the same place based on my age, based on how hard I work out. Just going to take a longer time to heal and regenerate. And so I had to modify all of my workouts. I— a friend of mine, personal trainer, she was like, hey, I got something. You got to try this. And of course, you're like, anything. Whatever you got. I'm gonna try whatever you got. So she put this amazing technology on me. So this is just an example, um, and you can wear them anywhere on the body. But she put it on me and my, um, my pain instantly went away. And I was completely blown out of the water. And about a month later, my shoulder and elbow had completely regenerated. And so I was able to go back to working out the way I had been 5 months pre- previous. And so that was fantastic. About 7 days in, my energy returned as if I was younger. I couldn't even have told you, like, when it started or how long. I had been so tired. So, so, so tired. I could literally— I could have gotten up out of bed and went right back to bed 30 minutes later and gone to sleep. I was tired all the time. And 7 days in, my energy returned from probably— I mean, years. I mean, my family tell you, like, all you ever say is how tired you are. It's just so tired. And that now is just very sustained. I've been utilizing the technology for 2 years. My energy is just very sustained. I, I can't take a nap, like, and that makes me so happy because I can be so productive and I feel good. Like, to actually feel good again and not be tired to where you're just dragging all the time. I mean, if, if it would have only done the those two things for me, the, you know, energy and the pain, it would have been worth it for me to continue to stay on the technology like I have. But the list is pretty long of all the benefits I actually received. Um, truly phenomenal. So Dr. Caroline, um, so Dr. Caroline's with Native Sun Nutrition. You can find her online at Native Sun Nutrition. She has a Facebook page and an Instagram page as well. But why don't you come on and tell us how you got introduced to the technology?

Well, thank you, Nikki. I really appreciate you sharing about your story and inviting me on your channel to share mine as well. And so, yes, so it's very interesting how I got introduced. I really just was looking for a solution for a patient that was having sleep challenges. And I have, you know, my tools work very well if patients are able to take the tools and follow the direction. And this person specifically that was having this sleep challenge, he just really had a hard time with that. He had a hard time with taking supplements and being consistent with it. And, and so, you know, I was looking for an alternative solution and his sleep challenge was significant. I mean, he had been taking Ambien for like 20 years. Um, when he did take it, he only slept for probably 4 to 6 hours. Um, and then he was doing all kinds of crazy stuff, um, in the middle of the night. And yeah, it was a major issue. Um, so anyway, so what happened was I was meeting with a rep for the nutrition and herbs that I use in my practice. And, you know, I just remember sitting there and I said to her, I said, hey, like, I know we're meeting about, you know, this supplement line, but I just have to ask you, like, something's telling me to ask you, like, do you have anything else that would help with a sleep issue? And I just went into detail about what the challenges were, and she just pulled out the technology. And this was, you know, 3 years ago. So she pulls out the technology and then she just starts explaining what the different patches do. And of course, Silent Night was one of the recommendations. But then, you know, there were multiple variables that were contributing to his challenge. And so I needed something for those variables, not just one thing. Right. And I think, you know, for me, it was intuitive. You know, for me, it was an aha moment where I was just like, wow, okay, my internal guidance was telling me to ask her, and then she literally pulls out this solution. Who knew that was going to happen other than the internal guidance, right? And so she pulls this out, starts giving me the patches, explaining how they work. I understood how they worked. I understand frequency. I understand, you know, ultimately everything is about channeling energy. And so, yeah, so I understood all of it, no resistance there. And then I intuitively used the technology in, in a combination to deal with those multiple variables. And the first night that I used it on him, he slept all night. He slept all night. And that was amazing, right? And so then when I asked him about it, I said, okay, well, you know, how did it go? And he's like, well, I did sleep all night. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is amazing, you know. And And his response was like, well, you know, maybe it wasn't that, you know. And so I was like, okay, so instead of using— I did a triad of the technology, 3 different patches that they— that this company makes. And so he decided to just use one that was indicated for sleep itself. He just used that, that patch, and didn't sleep as good. The next morning he was like, well, I didn't really sleep as good. You know, the second night I was like, okay, so, well, let's go back to the original triad that we used. And he's like, okay. So applied those patches, slept all night again. And then the next day when I was talking to him, I was like, okay, so how'd it go? Oh yeah, I slept all night. And he's like, and what's interesting is I don't remember even falling asleep. And that like never happens. That's exactly how he said it. It was like so amazing because it's just like, you know, he's very high energy at night. It's like it's really hard for him to go to sleep because his mind is racing. And so that's why it's just like never happens where he just falls asleep on his own. So that was pretty impactful. So I was sold at that point. I was like, this really works and now I want to use it for myself. Absolutely. I have my own experience with it. Yeah. And it's just helped a lot of people. A lot of people. So yeah, it's a tool that I use in my practice now pretty regularly.

Yeah, absolutely. Yes. It's so amazing. I was talking to somebody tonight and they were sharing how they had shared the technology with someone and they'd been using it for 6 weeks, but they had, you know, 40 years worth of medical issues and medication and all this stuff. And at 6 weeks they were like, well, I don't think I'm really going to keep using it because the only thing I've noticed is that it's helped me sleep better. It's like, oh, do you understand? Like, that's how you heal, right? To sleep better is what allows your body to do what it was designed to do in healing. And so, yeah, I I— it was just— it was shocking to me, you know, that it was— well, you know, and, you know, so talk to us a little bit about why people— like, obviously the man you used it on had great results instantly. My pain was instantly changed. But, you know, the energy took 7 days, which that's not necessarily common for everyone either. But But what would you say to someone and what would be their mental focus of what they need to gravitate to when deciding to use this technology about, you know, how, you know, how long they may need to use it and why, why would they choose to use it longer than 6 weeks?

Yeah, it takes time. Right, for healing to occur. And that is case by case relative to, you know, how much damage a person has. Um, it's, it's definitely not a one-size-fits-all in regards to their experience. And I mean, statistically speaking, they say for every decade that you've been alive, that's at least a month of using the technology that you need to do before you really start to see significant change. Now, does that mean that people don't experience change? You know, if they're 60, do they have to wait 6 months to see a difference? No, not in my opinion. Plenty of people— but I think a lot of it is about self-awareness, right? Like you mentioned, you know, that situation in that case where, you know, that person was aware that they were sleeping better, but they don't— they weren't aware of the significance of that. You know what I mean? They, they don't understand how, um, that is a foundational, uh, aspect of health. And there's nothing that can replace adequate sleep. There's nothing, nothing that you can substitute for that. And there's so many ramifications for not getting adequate sleep consistently, you know, as far as health issues are concerned. And so It's really important. And you're absolutely right, right? Like, we— I was— I did a video recently on that health is about a state of being. It's, it's first and foremost a state of being. And, you know, some people will understand when I say this, when the parasympathetic side of the nervous system is activated, that's the state that you can heal in. It's not the fight-flight, it's the, it's the rest-digest side. And so you want to— you want the act—

oh, I think you got frozen. Is your connection— oh, but there you are, you're back. Yeah, okay, I'm back. There you go. Yes.

I'm back. All right. Yeah, I was just saying that a lot of people's nervous systems are— have some degree of dysregulation, and, um, it has everything to do with, you know, their health challenges. And that's really the beginning of it. That's really the first— the first upstream contributing factor is, again, the state that you're in, which most people are in some degree of dysregulation where their nervous system is concerned. Yeah, it just has a major downstream effect. So, you know, having something like a patch that you can apply that can get you into that state of being where healing is possible is like game-changing.

Absolutely.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because all, all when you consider all the things, you know, that you or I've done or what you've done with your patients to bring them into a state to where healing can start taking place. It's usually months and multiple things that need to be changed or altered to create that. Like you were saying with your patient, you were giving him a list of things that he needed to do to try to sleep, but he just couldn't do them. He just couldn't do them. Whereas, like, can anybody not put on a patch? I mean, like, it's like it can't— it can't get any easier than that for sure.

Well, you know what's so funny about that? Like, it's so funny because, you know, when I think about practicing for as long as I have, you know, you know, I've tried a lot of different things, right, to get results for people and help people get results. And, you know, a lot of practitioners out there, if any of these practitioners are listening to this, you know, compliance is a really big factor to get results. Right? But, you know, and if somebody can't comply and do this work consistently, you know, you know, they may not get the results. And, you know, part of a practitioner's job is to kind of, you know, hold patients accountable and you really help them get consistent, right? But like you said, some people just can't do it. You know what I mean? There are people who have some neurodivergency and it's a challenge for them and And so, you know, I was in a different frame of mind around that time because I was like, well, I can't force this person to do this. That's just not going to work for them. It's just not going to— it's not going to work for me to say, well, I think you froze again.

Maybe you'll be back here in a minute. I don't know why we're having connection issues right now. Hopefully she's gonna be back in a minute, y'all. Oh, there, are you back? You— there you— there you are.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, sorry about that. It's definitely my connection over here. It happens sometimes. Um, no, I was just saying that, you know, you can't necessarily take a parenting role with someone and just be like, you need to comply. You know, that's— that's not, um— that doesn't work. It doesn't work. So what do you do? You go Sorry. You open yourself up to other possible solutions. And that's what I did. Right? Right. The field, when I was like, bring me some other options because I really want to help this person. And I know I'm a catalyst for it, or I know I'm a vessel for it. So then everything lined up. And I, you know, plugged into the situation and I did the thing and I was presented with a solution. That's how I look at it.

Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Being open because it would have been easy for you to be, you know, bogged down in the list of things that you have to get done every day and not have time or be too busy, you know, to look at something new. And so there's just so many new technologies that are out today that also make it difficult. Difficult as a practitioner to try to decide how and when to look at something new. But the amazing thing is that this is extremely affordable, super easy, and there's really no reason why someone can't comply to this. And it's not a hard thing to learn about either, especially when today there's so much information about our body stem cells and everybody being on the peptide train, everybody wanting to know about peptides. And so if you're in that space, you're already looking at how can I bring— how can I help my client regenerate, activate their stem cells? How can I turn on the peptides in their body? Like, that's very standard in our industry today, our buzzwords around how to regenerate. And really, most most cases, it's all in the anti-aging space. What's amazing about our technology is that it's true age reversal because of the peptide therapy that gets turned on with that GHK copper peptide. So we're really dealing with age reversal instead of just anti-aging.

Yeah. And I mean, and that's great from a proactive standpoint, but You know, many people, you know, they're, they're in a reactive situation, like with my person that had the sleep challenge. We just needed to find a solution for his sleep challenge. I think like the anti-aging is important, but that's also secondary in his mind. He just needed to get sleep, right?

Sure.

Yeah. And so the technology absolutely works in those situations. It's funny because is, you know, I've shared with people, um, some of the changes that patients and people have seen with the technology. And I got a referral— well, one of my partners contacted me because they're like, hey, I have a friend who's having kidney challenges and I, I want to introduce them to the technology. Which, which patches should I recommend? You know, how— where do they need to put them? And so I just provided her with that information and The reason she asked me is because she knows that the technology helps with improving kidney function. Right. You know, so you can apply it to a specific situation that maybe they've tried everything and then it hasn't worked.

Right.

Right. So it's like, why wouldn't you— like, if you can see an improvement in your kidney markers where you're in kidney disease range and then there's a possibility to like get into the normal range again and the healthy range again. And it all it took was putting on a stem cell patch. Why wouldn't you do that?

Right?

Right. And what are your kidneys worth to you?

Right, exactly.

What is your kidney function worth to you? So in, in this situation, she, you know, she understood the value and so she contacted me about Hey, like, how do I get this person set up? You know?

Absolutely. Yeah.

So pretty incredible what the technology can do. Yeah.

So the technology has a 96% effectiveness rate. So when you're talking about having that high of an effectiveness rate with, with the things that you're dealing, other things that you're using, is there anything else that you see that has that kind of effectiveness rate?

Um, gosh, you know, that's, that's, that's an interesting question. I think effectiveness has— there's so many variables with effectiveness because it's not just the product itself, it's your utilization of the product. You know, how are you utilizing, how consistent you are with it, you know, are you willing to apply it in a way that, you know, it's working, right? Like, you know, a lot of times that can— you can need to, um, try it in different places sometimes, right? So how you utilize it has everything to do with it having that effective outcome. So it's a combination. Everything is about a relationship, right? It's the relationship between us and the thing. Right.

Yeah. Because, well, when even when you're talking about, like, supplementation, like, the taking something exogenously, there's a transport chain that has to be operating properly for you to then utilize that supplementation, or even, even just from food, you know, nutrients from food, your body's— that's— there's still transport chains that happen, you know, delivery to the cell, and then the the cell utilizing it. Yeah. So being bioavailable. So all of that comes into play as well. Whereas what's nice about this is that it bypasses all of that and just turns on the exact peptide so that it can go and do whatever it's supposed to do in the body.

I will say that there is an aspect to that. We've talked about this, that before on here, which is in terms of Okay. Yes. You don't have to go through the whole digestive process, but you do need to be able to channel that energy effectively. And so you do need water and minerals for that. So you need to be adequately hydrated and adequately mineralized for, you know, you to get the best results, you know, with the technology. But yeah, so it's good to know about that.

Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Because if people are, you know, eating, eating well, which I know most people don't, but, but if they are eating, you know, eating well, eating high-quality, you know, food nutrients, then, you know, hopefully depending on their DNA, I guess ultimately they will have what their body needs to allow this technology to work optimally.

Yeah, it's interesting. You know, we've talked about a lot of people are suffering from chronic dehydration and they're lacking electrolytes. Like I've had plenty of people tell me, well, I drink plenty of water. I drink like 3 liters of water a day. But they're actually diluting their minerals when they don't, you know, consume some electrolytes typically, because a lot of times they're not getting that in their diet. So they do need to get that, you know, with what they're drinking. And so, but I'm also going to start documenting my use of cell salts with people, like different cell salts that people need to see how that influences how well the technology You know, awesome.

Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Yes, for sure. Yeah. Well, and that's, I guess that's the interesting thing too, is that, that just even being able to see the technology work on people when you think, okay, they're, you know, I think they're super dehydrated, this is probably, you know, going to take quite a bit of time. And sometimes, I mean, it's one of those where you just never know, like sometimes it will end up working. You know, very, very quickly for someone, even though all the ideal conditions aren't necessarily there. Or, I mean, you know, I've seen people on a long list and boxes full of medications that the technology will still just, you know, work very quickly for people as well.

So, okay. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's case by case. Yeah.

But absolutely.

Yeah. Generally thinking, generally speaking, if there is any kind of, um, delayed effect, there's a reason, you know what I mean? So we just have to look, we have to start with the most common reasons initially, and then, yeah. And so the technology, or I mean, just like anything, right? Like, I look at the technology and nutrition, like, there's all value in it, it's just how are you applying that? Right? Like, how is that being applied? Because it works independently of the user.

Mm-hmm.

Right. How it works for you has to do with your relationship with it.

Yeah.

It has to do with that. Right? And, um, so you just, you have to start from there, you know, not just it independent of you, but it in relation to you. Always. Everything's about a relationship for sure. Yeah. So I think it's always good to, um, understand that because in my opinion, the power lies with us.

Right.

When that's the case, the power lies with us. And so, okay, what is it that, you know, I need? As you mentioned, am I missing something as to why this— I'm not, you know, right. Yeah.

Cause I will often tell people like if, if they do have a certain, you know, issue and they have been consistent. I mean, consistency is so important with anything in life, but also with this technology. If they've been consistent with the technology and they're really not seeing the results that I would think that they need to get, I'll tell them, well, you probably need to go have your copper levels checked and your magnesium and potassium levels and see how those are actually doing in your body because you may have a deficiency. Or even just how much How much water do you drink? And are you putting electrolytes in your water? And a lot of times I'll find out, find from people that even who have been exercising for many, many, many years, it's just been a part of their life and they have never— they don't do anything with electrolytes. And so it's like, okay, well, let's just start. Here's one you can go buy online. Let me send you a link. This could be super easy fix. Let's see if we can— if this is all we need.

Yeah, yeah. I had a, I had a new patient today. I've known him for a while, but he was in today and he has— I've talked about this before, the symptoms of chronic dehydration. Yeah, he had them all. He had like almost all those symptoms. So it was—

wow.

Yeah. Chronic gastritis, sinusitis, certainly sensitive skin, fatigue, headaches. Joint pain, muscle pain. Yeah, the list goes on. Right, right. And, you know, he started even before our most recent evaluation. He was good enough to start working on his hydration. And he said it has made a world of difference. A world of difference.

Yeah, just that one thing. Drink water. But you just drink some water, electrolytes, because he was right.

He was drinking, he said, 3 liters of water a day.

Oh, wow.

He just started adding the electrolytes. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, it was just flushing out. Yeah, didn't have any usable—

exactly. Yeah, if anything, the water was depleting his mineral status, right? And so, yeah, and so now he's drinking the electrolytes and he's feeling a lot better. And, um, yeah, it's just making a world of difference. And so, yes, when you're— and I use the analogy of like, yeah, like think about your body as this desert, and it's just been undergoing this, like, major drought. And now all of a sudden it's getting rain. It's getting rain, and it can now— the whole landscape in there is going to start changing, and you're going to be able to start growing new, you know, new tissue, basically.

Right.

Right?

Absolutely. Because then everything in our body has a regeneration time. So if you don't have the hydration to do it, it can't regenerate. So it's exactly what you're saying is that you turn that faucet back on and now all these things can actually do their job to regenerate and turn over their cells.

I mean, there's a reason that you don't see anything growing in the desert hardly. Right, right. Except for stuff that can withstand that climate. But yeah, there's a reason. So it's like, yeah, now— and get a good— another good analogy is, you know, this drought that his body was under, um, it's all represented in inflammation. Everything's on fire, right?

Absolutely.

Brain's on fire, his skin's on fire, his joints, you know, like He's literally this smoldering fire and he just needed a lot, a lot of fire element, not enough water element. So we got to balance that out with some water, right? And so it's just hugely important. And I did share with him about the water unit coming out in a month.

Awesome.

And he was sold.

Absolutely.

Yes.

Can I put my name on a list?

Yeah. He's like, okay, as soon as it comes out, I'm going to get it. I was like, okay. Yeah. Totally.

Absolutely.

It's gonna be a game changer cuz I mean he did, well obviously I shared the, um, superficial symptoms of the dehydration, but he, he did have kidney dysfunction. So yeah, his kidneys were not looking that good because of, again, of the effects of the dehydration over time. Right.

Absolutely.

So I was like, okay, well this will really help, especially when we get that water unit. I just expect things to change pretty significantly even more. Yeah.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for your time tonight, Dr. Caroline. It was so fun to chat with you. Everyone, please make sure that you go and like and follow her Native Sun Nutrition on Facebook and Instagram. You can always find me. I have a business page as well, Embrace Optimal Health, Facebook and Instagram. I also have a YouTube channel that's just Nikki Lea McCutchen. So I have tons of videos recorded on there, all kinds of testimonials of people who've been using the technology. So it's a great— the YouTube channel is a great one to check out as well. But thank you so much, Dr. Caroline. We really appreciate you, and we'll see you on your channel next week.

Awesome. Yes, can't wait.

Yes. Good night, everyone.