GOLD ADC QUITS Bot Lane to Learn Jungle… Here’s What Happened

A Gold ADC switches to jungle and gets coached through the transition. The session covers positioning, objectives, and team play mechanics to help the player adapt to their new role.
All right, let's jump into some gold coaching. We were platinum before. I think we're role swapped from ADC to jungle. Tell me a bit. Why role swap from ADC to jungle? What's the thought process there?
Okay. Yeah. So anyways, I like the role. ADC played it for a long time, but now the role is kind of like, I don't know, I don't really like it anymore, but I still love the game. So I was like, I guess I'll just try jungle. Because I like every now and then whenever I play jungle, like autofilled or whatever, I actually like, enjoy it. And I feel like jungle has. It's like you could argue is like a carry. Like the carry what ADC used to be is like what jungle is now. Like how much impact you have on the game.
All right. It's a. It's some bold takes about ADC. You know, I have my own opinions about 80. It's AD carry. Right. That's. I just want to speak frank here. It's ad carry. But I get what you're saying. We want to have more impact Jungle. Strong jungles. This jungle. Is that cool. You do have the most agency in all games of league when playing jungle or support. This is true. Which is why they feel the most broken. And as the ADC getting targeted, like, it's having like a. Like a wanted bounty on your head note for you could. You could be 10 deaths and you still have a wanted bounty on your head. Yeah. Like, it sucks. It's. It's a really shitty feeling. One thing I will mention though, whether you're playing ADC or whether you're playing jungle, you die so much. And the fact that you die an average of 5 deaths or more on ADC is probably why you hate your life on ADC as well. I will put that as like a wow. Like you die a lot like that.
Yeah. It's not even like, it's not even the dying like that. I can just be like, okay, like I could team fight better position better whatever. It's the thing that made me like not really like this role anymore is like the solo queue experience below. Like the low elo solo queue experience. So like the. The Shaco supports that like just leave you or the Quinn support like, you know, saying like people who actually don't want to play support sport or like you're pl. I play like Lucian or Draven into like a jinx. And my jungle is like pathing towards top to like a chok gav orn or some. And it's like. But then their jungler is like there, you know. I don't know. Anyways, yeah, there's a lot of complaining.
But I get that. It's a lot of. It's a lot of complaints. A lot of things. I'm saying that the tactical approach, if you were playing adc, is. Is acknowledging, and we'll have to acknowledge this as playing jungle, is that you die too much. No matter what role you're playing. It is ingrained in the way you play. You are okay with dying. I'm saying that you've developed this habit from ADC and you've developed this belief that it's okay to die and we need to try and change that immediately. The fact that on the one of the supposed safest roles, you need to be ADC lady die an average of five plus times a game, that is very concerning. Okay. And you come to jungle and you're still dying 5.5 times on average on Viego, which is also concerning. So we need to lock in on staying alive. So what I'm looking for in your fights is please do yourself a favor and try to stay alive. Do not kill yourself for fighting. Do not kill yourself in these fights. Stay alive. Life. That's what I'm. That's what I'm really going to be watching.
Okay.
ADC is one of the most powerful rules. If you are exceptionally good at the game or you. You outclass everyone versus almost every other role, you can be the same skill level or even worse than the enemy and still have massive impact. That is one thing I'll say about adc.
Yeah. I'm not saying it's like garbage or whatever. It's just the. The average, like, I don't know.
Yeah.
Unless you're like double lift or some like. Yeah, it's probably going to be miserable. That's what I experience. It doesn't help that I take extended breaks from this game partly because of my job. So I always have to like come back and like relearn, fix the old habits or whatever and. But is what it is. We're here now.
Okay. Let's see here.
Probably. I'd probably do bot. God damn it. I hate clicking on that.
Yeah. What rank is this, by the way? I forgot to change this.
Should be like gold four.
Like gold four.
Around like.
I got the open real quick to summoners R.
I will say I'm not. I'm trying not to care too much about winning right now, even though I would like to do it since I Am like learning a new role in the middle of a split.
Makes sense. I mean, don't. Yeah, don't stress. No matter what you should do, don't stress the climb. You want to focus on that improvement at the end of the day, improvement is great.
It's just hard to tell if I'm improving or not. If I'm seeing like minus. I had minus 30 earlier. She was crazy. My MMR is kind of. But whatever.
I mean, are you basing your improvement off of your LP gains?
Yes. Which I know is not the right answer, but it's just right.
So. So then that's. Then as you farm, let's not work on. Let's not think about information together. Anything else. Let's just talk. How can you restructure the way you. You judge your improvement? How can you change that?
I think I just have to like play my game.
Right. Okay. What does that mean? How can you tell that you're doing that without numbers helping you?
So, so far since trying to miss an auto.
No worries, no worries. Just. Just focus on for a minute and talk to me.
I'm not cutting these out. It's like the first thing was like my clear. Like right now this clear is like actually like terrible. So I'm probably not gonna make good.
You're good. Don't. Don't worry, don't worry. Just. You're talking to me. You're trying to do a lot right now. I wanna, I want to understand what's. How. How you can change the way you're improving, the way you're thinking about the game. Okay. So you. So you're not stressed about the goal of winning?
Trying not to. Yeah. So I think the way I need to do it is I just need to like set goals per game instead of just overall. Right now I'm kind of like half assing it to like to say I'm like, yeah, I have like these goals, but I'm not like really like applying them every game. Kind of just general like I want to get good, good clears. I want like to work on doing my camps and gathering info so like I'll have like these ideas or whatever goals that I'm trying to do. But league is just. It's a lot the main like something dumb happens, I get caught up in that. Okay, I'm bad.
Okay. It's all good. Don't. Okay, it's. It's a little bit of just warming up your enemy. You seem a little bit stressed. All good, bro. Don't strike. No worries.
My w. Hit A minion man. All right. Whatever is what it is. I'm. I'm just listening to some music right now. Try and get back into it. So she ignited. She flashed.
In terms of how you're changing.
Okay, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
Go top grab. Yeah, go top grab. Here, let's. Let's check it. In terms of how you're. You. You change the way you view improvement. This is the exact things you need to do. Try to. One shot this Q E away. Smite. Keep walking away. You're fine. All right.
He got black crowd. So, yeah, it's like. It's like little things that I'm trying to improve on, but after. Because, like I said, I've been playing league since Jinx was announced. Now, I haven't been really playing, like, competitively, like, ranked and stuff for, like, the last, like, until, like, the last, like, three years on and off. So this is, like, a really big habit I have of, like, giving a. About a rank in a video game to determine if I'm, like, good at that game or not, you know?
But, yeah, what I care about is the habits you. You. You're building and how you can change those because that's where the real growth will come. So at least you're aware of these things. But let's just, like. What I'll do is I'm gonna help take over now, and I'm gonna just, like, give you pretty much an overload of what I need you to do. So stop pulling camps with W. Don't W here. All good. I want you to stop pulling camps with W. You're gonna use your Q to pull the camp and use your W to auto attack. Reset. So auto W, auto. You know that combo pretty easily. Q, auto W, auto. Auto W. Auto a bit quicker. Your W is slow. And stop using your W to pull the count. Want to use it to give yourself the auto attack. Reset. Let's watch mid lane. Pan towards mid. Pan towards mid. Okay, walk through your jungle. Don't walk through the river. You're gonna get spotted. Probably got spotted already. Okay, walk through your jungle. You can go there. Good. I want you to sweep when you get to the cap. This little bush right here. Sweeper. Now go around on the way. Peeing. Let him know you're coming. It's on a ward. Just goes fine. Nothing you can do. Drop a pink here and then. Careful. We want to leave trundles in the bot side. We don't want to pull this just because. Look at Bonnie's hp. Danger. Ping bot lane. Trundle should be in the bot side. Good. There's trundle. Right. We know he's there because you cleared down. Okay, that's fine. Go straight back. Top side. Straight to your blue buff straight to the top. Crab actually should go always. Always. Realistically deploy through mid so you have the biggest option. You're a bit slow here. W at a base. Okay. Get there quicker. Danger pink ball in a few more times. This pink word is a bit suboptimal. You want to put it on the left side of the bush. Okay. So it catches everywhere. Let's look top lane here. Yeah, right there. Okay. Ohp has double thing. I'm not gonna kill this guy. Okay. So we want to Q first and auto W. Auto. You want to get that auto first with your w. Very important. Okay. Keep clearing. Trundle might be on the dragon. It is what it is. Just clear all the way down. Halfway. There we go. Auto w. Auto user E. Good. Just crossing towards top. Doesn't look like I'm doing anything there. I'm just gonna full clear here. Old tab is trying to level six. Very curious. He's level six. He has a phage. He's a dagger. Danger ping your top lane a few times. He's overextending here. Ninja ping him one more time. Let him know he can. He's in danger still. Your top winner is on reset. Your mid laner has no pressure. No prio. Look at Urgot's H or udyr's hp. Let's double check. Let's use hp. Let's see his mana. Okay. We can now Leblanc catching mid wave. After this we can go towards the void group. We don't want to give these. That's all Tab is Eurocav teleports. Nope. He has ignites teleport sweeper through. Okay, let's Assist Ping. The LeBlanc. Assist Ping. Assist ping. Assist ping. Don't show yourself. No, just wait. Just go wait for your teammates. Like that? Yeah. Wait for your teammate. Wait for your teammate. Go slowly. Wait for your long of you. There's the grub. You always want to use your ultimate. You have a free ulti to use. Just use that. This D stepping a bit. You can. Okay, that's fine. Just clearing a wave in your teammate's face. Leblanc has a W and an E to connect chains. We have to look for those opportunities to get a free flash to get a free chunk to help win your teammates. Let's look at bot lane. What's going on down there. Just keep farming. We're not going. We're not committed. Just farm. But I want to see what's happening so I can decide. Leblanc's going. Leblanc's probably got it. I'm gonna let the bong handle this. Wi fi e the wall to the left down there. That's good too. Check the shop. How close are we to item 1400 gold. We need 1700. Okay. So we're probably gonna try to get this spot crab and then we're going to try to recall. Let's sweep the the bush in the river. Wrong bush. Right. Go the crab and then we're looking to recall. Let's look mid lane here as well. With our swain. We can we have an opportunity. Look at the swain. He's kind of getting face check right here. Good. We got to charge our w there. He's flashing away. He's too far out. You got to make sure to charge your w and I'll tap your w when he's that far away. Better to save it. Recall good. You know Diana's in the flash. It's good information. Trundle show. Let's hold tab. What are his items. It's good. Add some information. Go to phage. Buy the sheen first. Actually undo. Undo. Undo. Undo. Undo. By fit by sheen by long sword. Go. Top two camps. Yeah. On the wall. Good. W at a base tap. Wow. Little dash gromp wolves. We'll tab how close to Dragon 2 minute or 1 minute. So we want to clear these camps quickly and then get our item and then we can play for the dragon. Showing bot lane. As I'm clearing wolves. I want to see what's happening in the bot side. Really curious. Make sure when you're doing your q auto w auto you make sure it's on the right camp. Make sure it's on the whole thing. Can't miss position. Let's recall. It's fire item. Where are you going? Give your item. We want to play for this dragon. Right. It's good. Redeploy to the bot side. We want to play around with is strong. Let's hold tab. Go straight to your raptors. Who is strong. Your LeBlanc is two kills to your raptors. We want to play towards mid lane with your fed teammate aka LeBlanc towards Raptors. Good. Cuz we don't actually want to play with our ball lane. We want to be in the bot side but we don't actually want to play with this guy because they're weaker than my LeBlanc. So this. This Diana who's stepping up. Look at this Diana. Look at this Diana. You can try and go on her. She's very disrespectful right now. You're still being disrespectful. You're just not done. Our camp. It's fine. We can attack on this wave. Good attack. Attack mid lane. Let LeBlanc get the wave. Good, good, good. You can go. You can go. You can go. Go, go, go. There's no flash. Chunk this guy. Chunk him. Chunk him. Chunk him. Chunk him. Chunk him. Chin, don't die. EOA e healer long damage. Yeah. Nice, nice, nice. Going to get enough flash last play. Look at b. HP Will they with you? Probably not. They could not recall dud.
He's just so good.
Dragon ball crab. Finish this with a smite. Do not go with LeBlanc. You want this crab first. Yeah, let's look. Let's look to recall here. I'm not gonna stay on the map here. I took the recall. Go straight back to the top side. Go for the zerk. Yeah, this is fine. It's dangerous. Ping top lane a few times. Trundle's gonna go top lane. He has no other play on the map. Danger ping. Danger ping. Danger ping. Go. Danger ping. Top side. Take gates to the blue gates. Gates, gates, gates, gates. Optimize, optimize, Optimize efficiency. Blue ground. Bulls down.
Don't camp, you said. Yeah.
Q auto w on a watch top fight. What's going on? Nothing happening. It's okay. He has a nice ward in that bush. Okay? So let's just. Yeah, good. Good pinging it. Let's just clear naturally and play towards our LeBlanc. You can go attack this guy. Attack him. Attack him. No, no, no. Attack the Diana. She's so disrespectful. How are you gonna let him do this? How are you gonna let him do this Here. You have the plant. You could have gone all the way around. It's too late now, man. It's too late now. Go back to your campsite. You need to attack. This guy is literally hitting your mid turn. You have LeBlanc WR with the two dashes. You have your e. You have your w slopes or stun. Clear your. Clear all your bot camp. Just clear all the way down. No, no. Clear your bot camps. Clear blocks. Clear block.
Invade. Channel just died.
No, just. Just. Just clear block camps and you can go play for Harold afterwards.
Okay?
We don't want to invade because if Trundle goes Straight to your bot side. Afterwards, you will get all three of your bot camps. We don't know which top camps he has. Look for the Stiana. Kill here. Actually very important. Again, so disrespectful. You're not even looking. Kill this guy. Free Kill he. Now look at his raptors. After. Look at his raptors. Look at his raptors. Look at the top side. Now take the possession. Always pick up possessions. Free ultimate for you. You can possess for 10 seconds as well. It's free. Stick this in his face. Maybe you can smite the red buff. Let's look at the hp. A bigger sweat than him. Just take the red buff for fun. For free. Stay with LeBlanc. Let's see what's happening. Charge. W. This guy's very disrespectful. No Ulti. Good. We have no Ulti. And Flash. Very good. Careful. Watch the bl. Watch the fight. Go for the top crab. No, no. Where are you going? Where are you going? Top crab. Top crab. Don't let this guy do this. He just flashed. Kill this guy. Flash on him. Flash on his head. Pick the body up. Like, don't forget about the. You pick the body up. You can kill Dan here too. He has no flash. Be careful, Q. And use your w. W. Charge. Let's go. Gromp. Just clear down. That was too healthy.
Like my fault. That's a habit. I'm not trying to. It's having to.
All the way down. Wolves are coming up soon. I mean, they won't be up for a bit, but we're just gonna stay on the map for our items. It's okay. We have all of our camps upcoming soon. This guy, if he uses Ulti, you can look. Yeah. E. Through the wall. Wrong wall. Trying to chase this guy. He's not going to die now. You need to eat the wall. He's going to run. Run from. Yeah. Let's go, Wolves. All of our bot camps we're gonna get right. Danger ping top side. Well, let them know, like, we're not fighting this. Zeri's bot lane. It's not. Not easy to win this way. Take this red buff and look at Diana's hp. Look at the turret bot lane. How. How they use the turrets. Okay. Take the gates into his blue buff. And then we're gonna try to get one camp here. One or two, maybe. Yeah, both probably. Lunar's mid. See if mom is coming. Nope. Skipping both. Recall play for dragon. Look at. Look at Zeri. Look at Diana. What's happening down there? Probably take this Go sit in the tri bush one time. Tri bush. Sweeper. Sweeper. Sweeper. Sweeper. Very important. Sweeper. Sit here. Sit here. Go. Go for. Okay, go for Diana. Actually, you can go. You can go. You can go now. On the way. Ping. Very quick. Play. Multi. And now walk away. W. W for them healing. Yeah. Join looks a little bit rough. Q, Q, Ulti. Ulti. Backwards. That's fine. Stay with LeBlanc. Stay with your team. You're not the one getting hit on. We're happy. Very good. Careful, careful, careful. Please don't play like that. This is. This is why we have so many deaths, right? You just run in head first. Sit. You're not aware you're sitting on 2. 500 gold. How does LeBlanc, Zeri, and Swain want to play? Walk me through it real quick. How do they want to play fights? Are they slow? Are they fast? Hard? Engage?
I mean, hold on. This is a lot right now. Yeah. So Swain probably wants to just sit and peel, hook people like in LeBlanc wants to get, like, a quick pick and bounce out. And then Zeri just wants to prop Bolton's auto attack people to death.
Top side, blue gromp gates take the go for top. Crab first. Okay. LeBlanc wants to pop someone. You pop someone. Now, LeBlanc has no spells, and you're still going forward. So you need to back out after LeBlanc gets that pick. Okay? You can't keep going for more. LeBlanc has no spells. Your Fed teammate, your LeBlanc has nothing more for you. You take a pick. You reset. You wait for LeBlanc spells, then you play more. You go in head first, you're gonna die five more times this game. 10 more times this game. Stop going in after you get a reset. Go slow. Wait for your teammates. Cooldowns. Wait for your teammates. Spells slow, front to back. All the way down naturally. Smite this. Go towards the mid wave. Okay, now they're getting it. Never mind. You will need to catch this, though. You will need to catch this. Stay in the midst. Use your Q's. Use your E to catch. Use your E to help save yourself. Yeah. Use the back line. Water camp's good. Just clear. Clear it all. Just keep volunteering your teammates. Do want to recall soon? Oh, but I'll probably just recall after this camp.
Where the are you going?
What the. Is that the hell? All right. Zer wants to recall. Let's see. Zer's going to fight. You can fight. You can join us. This guy's being a bit disrespectful. LeBlanc is also coming. We want to go slow. Slowly, though. Okay, good. W In W. Yeah, you can do the objective now. Do the objective. Yeah. Drop a pillar in the tribush just to, like, block the area. And then Ulti, I need you to get your ultis on your possessions. It's a free ultimate. You need to use that.
Okay.
I need to make a YouTube short, or say short on the Oticon. If you stand in his orbs, you're getting hit by all those minus 5 armor mister. Minus 5 armor mister. Every single orb that hits you, if you stand in the Radius, you lose one armor Mr. Every two seconds. Or maybe it's two every one second. No, it's one. It's. It's one every two seconds. I believe you need to. You need to stop getting hit by those little orbs. Top to bot natural. Same thing. Sense and repeat. Wolves, raptors, all the way down. Red buff, old tab. Let's see who's strong on our team. Who's strong on theirs. Their Yunara seems to be their entire team. Let's look at LeBlanc. LeBlanc is strong. Two and a half items. Yurok also has two and a half items. This is good. Let's see if someone hits this bot wave. We want to get off the red buff and kill the guy. No one's hitting the bot wave. Let's go through bot lane. Let's look for quadrant control. Let's just go with Zeri. Escort the Zeri. Walk through it on the way. Ping as well. Let them know. Let your Zer know you're just here with. Go to the next bush. Right this. This bush right here. Good. Now take the gromp. Now watch the York. What's going on up there? What's going with Yara? We see Diana now. Check the blue buff. See if that's up. Hit the bots rip. Oh, this is up. Take us first. Hell yeah. That's why we get information. So we get quadrant control. Because we're looking for nice plays. Like this. You can even hit the bots right here for a sec. I don't mind looking for this too. Yeah, but it's a little late for the bots, right? Maybe this next wave. You can do it. It's a lot of gold for us. Put a little chunk on him. Gon is dead. Walk out of the bush. But you can buy a pickaxe. Let's go straight to the bot side. Actually, I don't want to go up here. I want to go to the bot size dragons coming up. Take the gates. Take the gates. I want to go through the bot. The same position I went through last time through bot lane. Because I know they have no vision there. It's impossible for them to have vision there. So I'm going to set that up and I'm going to maybe kill Stiana. That's what I'm looking for right now. Same thing earlier we did. I'm gonna do the exact same thing. I'm gonna sit in this bush and just wait. Charge w and free prey for you. There we go. Look at the tp. This is good. Chunk this guy. Chunk him. Chunk him. Chunk him. Use Diana. Chunk him good. Use another E. That's fine. Keep chasing this guy. I need a flash. It's okay. I want you to use your E before you possess people. That's. That's okay. The scenario seems screwed. WW Just go to the. Go to the dragon. You don't need.










