The Science of Self-Leadership w/ Todd Kuckkahn
In this interview, host James Allen talks with Todd Kukan, a solopreneur who launched his leadership‑focused business in his early 60s. Todd shares how he transitioned from a nonprofit role to full‑time entrepreneurship by leveraging long‑standing community connections and a clear sense of purpose. The conversation delves deeply into self‑leadership, especially the process of uncovering and living by five core values (optimism, trust, honesty, enthusiasm, teamwork) and making them a daily reminder. Todd explains practical methods for finding clients—using existing networks, referrals, and consistent outreach on LinkedIn and Facebook—while emphasizing a service‑first mindset. He outlines how to identify a target market by clarifying one’s “why,” narrowing the audience, and even deliberately repelling non‑ideal prospects. The dialogue moves to public speaking, offering a step‑by‑step path from small service‑club gigs to paid engagements, and stresses the importance of storytelling, practice, and improvisation. Both speakers discuss accountability structures such as weekly mastermind hot‑seat sessions that keep ideas clear and actions aligned. Finally, they address why people often fail to act, recommending a single, concrete experiment, embracing failure, and cultivating gratitude as part of servant leadership. Throughout, Todd provides concrete tools (core‑value worksheets, messaging frameworks, referral loops) and resources (Simon Sinek’s “Find Your Why,” John Maxwell events) for listeners who want to start or grow an online business.
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Today's guest is Todd Kukan, and he is on a mission to revolutionize company culture and leadership as a whole. Todd started his business a bit later in life, in his 60s, and he actually started to go full-time really fast by leveraging his current network. Now, a lot of people would say, well, it's too late for me to start an online business. Todd is a prime example that it's never too late to get out there and start serving people and to really turn your passions into a legitimate income. In this interview, we dove deep into leadership as a whole. We talked about core values, how to find your core values, how to live from your core values and actually remember them like a lot of people do not do. We dove really deep into self-leadership, which I think is incredibly important for helping you start or grow your online business, especially if you want to take it to that next level. Todd will again be hosting the Live to Lead event featuring John C. Maxwell and other internationally known leadership speakers. To learn more about Todd, check out the links down in the description. And without further ado, let's dive into the interview.
Todd, how you doing today?
Doing great, James. Good to see you.
Yeah, man.
So we're going to dive straight in.
One thing I really wanted to have you share was your story of starting entrepreneurship at what most people would consider like a very late age. You were 60 63 when you started. What was kind of the thought process and the motivation for going into it?
Well, late is such a kind word. Thank you, James, for using it.
It's just what people would consider. You were like, the sooner you get in, the better.
I'm old, man. No, it's— yeah, I started dabbling in the leadership world, uh, probably 6 years ago and started doing some things part-time. Then it got to the point with my job where I looked at my calendar and it's like, I don't have enough time to do my job. I don't have enough vacation time because I want to do this work as a solopreneur and in the leadership lane. So about a year and a half ago, I started talking— well, about 2 years ago, I started talking to the— I was in a nonprofit, the Chamber World, and talked to the exec and executive board and all. And I said, hey guys, can you cut my contract back or can we do something? I love my job, but I also love my calling. And they just— they weren't willing to do that, which I totally understand. So I pulled the plug almost exactly a year and a half ago and I just did my taxes for last year. I got 'em in on time, but realized that, hey, I made it, you know, I made it through a full year, a full calendar year supporting myself as a full-time solopreneur. Started at age 63 and now I'm a little bit older than that.
Yeah, that's amazing, dude. It's so cool because like, yeah, it's just people, they, the common kind of objection that can happen is like, I'm too young or I'm too old. You know, people even say like, I'm too young. I started when I was 22. When I had first started, I was in construction work and I just like went in and, you know, I'm 27 now and so much has changed since then. But yeah, it's like you kind of just have to like follow that calling piece. And I feel that that is like, I think that's so important when it comes to leadership because that's your, your secret sauce is the leadership component. For people that listen to this podcast, they're thinking about starting their own business. Around the things that they know, or maybe they're working at growing themselves. And that's where I feel like that self-leadership comes in. So what do you kind of have to say about learning how to lead yourself in those kind of decisions of like, where should I guide my life right now? Well, as—
yeah, as— that's a great question. As a— getting it— starting in the business, I was actually involved with a mastermind group, a group of— I think there were 6 of us in the group. We studied some different content about leadership, and one of the exercises we went through was determining our core values. And everybody, you know, if you ask somebody and you say, what are your core values? They're going to rattle off a couple. But, but we spent a full hour really diving into the emotional and behavioral personality side of our core values and figuring out what they are. Mine happen to be optimism, trust, honesty, enthusiasm, and teamwork. And they have really helped me throughout my, my journey as a solopreneur because there's a lot of times, you know, again, you're a solopreneur, it gets lonely out there. And, and you may only have yourself at that moment. So if you have something to lean on that are as strong as your core values, that's something that's really important. It's helped me get through bad days, has helped me get through— I, I got, I got partway through a, a workshop I was doing, I got called by the HR person and she said, that one didn't work, we got to figure this out. So we re— we retooled it and ended up doing a great job with it. But it was something I could lean on. Sometimes you don't even think about them, but oftentimes we need something to lean on. And, and, and And then, then of course you can turn to your inner circle, but I think the core values are really the basis, right?
Well, okay, so let's kind of dive into that a little bit. I think it is huge and something that I kind of picked up from what you said was like, if you're gonna be in like a mastermind or I guess the people that you surround yourself with, even a relationship or your friends as well, if you don't understand those core values, then you could put yourself in a situation where like you surround yourself with the people that don't align with those core values or what you really want. Because even if you're not aware of them, you still embody them in some way. And it kind of just reminds me of that whole thing of you are who you surround yourself with. So knowing those core values, I feel, is so huge because then you can pick and choose the right people that share those values to really kind of help you grow. So what are your kind of tips in finding core values? Because that alone is like Such a big topic, I feel.
Well, yeah, I think it's where, first of all, you need to spend some time thinking. And many of us don't spend time just thinking and really walking through, you know, what are the things that bring joy in your life? What are the challenges that you haven't enjoyed? What are the challenges you have enjoyed? What inspires you? What do you want your legacy to be? So part of the reason I jumped into this, I have 4 daughters. That's why my hair is the color it is. But, um, I have 4 daughters, and I really wanted to leave a legacy for them and have them understand, no matter your age, you can do what you need to do or want to do. And, and focus on that. You can, you can go online and get lists of words, but then the next step after going through those questions about joy and challenge and legacy is to really go through that list of 100 or 150 words and find the 5 that are the ones that really relate to you the most, that are really foundational to who you are, not what you want to become or what you were, but really kind of where you are. What are the things that really, that matter to me the most? And, and that's where my 5 came up. And when I did it, I was kind of disappointed that family and faith didn't come up. But as I looked at it and reflected some more, I realized that really, that, that's kind of what holds— that's the glue that holds all— holds my core values together. So really taking— you start maybe with 100, you go to 20, you go to 5. And then what I did is— we did as well— is we wrote a sentence on each, what that core value means. And then I, twice a day, my core values pop up on my phone cuz I don't have the, the greatest memory for things. So I have those, I have 'em pop up all the time. So it's always in front of me. Whenever I look in the mirror, I can think about those. And, and, and, and it's a critical, critically important part of my life.
Yeah. Well, I, I mean, core values are basically like who you are. It's what you value in terms of like every, it really is kind of everything.
It is.
One thing that, so when I first started in coaching, I did like life coaching and it was spiritual life coaching, but I wanted to do more of like career and somewhat. So I got into like productivity coaching and then that evolved into helping people start and grow their own online business over the years. But we used to talk a lot about core values in the life coaching space that I got trained in and certified through. And yeah, one thing that I kind of like to think about with core values is I love the simplicity that you have with like 5 core values because there's some companies or people who are like, oh, I got 20 core values. Then you ask them to name them and they're like, I think that integrity's on there. I think this is like, you should know your core values, like 3 to 5 that you live by. But something that I consider being a real core value is, I like what you said about putting on your phone or somewhere where you can see your 5 values. But if you can live into those 5 values every day and express each one in your day, I think that that really helps ingrain it. For example, if generosity is a core value of mine, so if I go get coffee or something, you know, or go out to a restaurant, then I'm going to leave a generous tip or support someone in some way. So I'm expressing that value in some way. It's kind of like some way that I, that's been really useful for me.
Well, yeah. You know, and you think about, you know, a lot of businesses that we've all been in at some point in our life and, and they, you know, they put up their mission, vision, values on the wall and it's really pretty, you know, colors and well done graphically and right. And then people don't think about them, right? They don't, they don't, they don't engage and they don't live them every day. Well, it's the same thing with you, with your own core values. It's something that you really need to live and think about each day. Last Friday, I had a, I had a training session, a workshop I did in this leadership series I'm doing for a chamber. And I woke up in the morning and I was kind of like, oh, you know, it's Friday, but I'm going to go do this. And but I started thinking about my core values. I'm like, wait a minute, I owe it to these people to be enthusiastic. I owe it to these people to be optimistic and share, you know, the knowledge that I have with them. And it really, you know, really kind of got me revved up and got me motivated because I started thinking about it in terms of, you know, poor old Todd who wakes up a little bit offline versus these people that I can impact with some leadership training. So by focusing on my core values, it helped me to do that, right?
That's awesome, man. So gonna turn the, uh, the conversation a little bit from core values. When you started your online business, some people could think like going full-time in your first year at, you know, 63. That's amazing. What did you kind of do to find clients to really start off as being like a solopreneur? Did you— I'm guessing you already had connections, kind of. How did that, how did that kind of look so that the audience can kind of get an idea of some ideas for them?
Yeah, it's really about your connections. It's about who you're, who you're, you know, out and about with. And that's, that's really what helped me a lot. I had been working with the Chamber of Commerce. I'd been in the community for 19 years and in public-facing positions. And, you know, I got to know a lot of people and, you know, never burned a bridge. I had some rocky situations here with cultures and organizations, but never burned any bridges. And just, you know, when I came back from a John Maxwell conference, I just started reaching out to people that I knew and I said, hey, I'm starting to do more speaking and workshops and coaching and things, you know, let me know if I can help you. And, you know, that would lead— you know, I started out really small. And then eventually built and built. And actually now I've got a speaking gig in May where it's a referral from a referral. So I'm starting to get that kind of second generation of referrals. But, you know, this has been like 5 years. So for some people, it can happen quicker than others.
Sure.
Others, you may have to build your network. And that's where I rely on LinkedIn a lot and Facebook and going to nonprofit community events and, you know, trying to meet people. And really focusing on what can I give? How can I help? The question I like to ask a lot is, how can I help you? Rather than going there and, you know, handing out 25 business cards and expecting something in return the next day, it's how can I help you when I make a connection? Hey, I heard you speak. It was really great to hear you speak. Let's get connected. Maybe there's some ways we can work together and I can help you. But really focusing outward, it really helps as well when you're making connections.
Totally. Yeah, it's really easy. I feel when people start their business to like get self-centered kind of. And it's like, it's kind of natural because I tell people, like, when, when, uh, I have like email sequences and stuff to like sell digital products and that kind of stuff, and in one of my emails it literally says like, I know that you don't like care about my business, and that's okay. Like, I'm not offended. Like, you don't care about my business. What you care about is how my business can help you.
Exactly.
And like, it's so, it's so crazy because like, I mean, I suffered with it for a long time. Like, you start your own business, it's your dream, and you want to make this impact, and it's really like me-focused. But the way that we actually grow that business is through generosity. It's through giving and developing that like servant leadership, that servant kind of mindset where it's like, how can I help you? How can I support you? And then those opportunities start to arise.
Yeah, everybody has pain points in their life, and that's what we're trying to do in our business is figure out what are the— what are those pain points for that other person And what, what am I doing that will help you solve those pain points? And again, a lot of the work I do with leadership and culture, that's what, that's what I focus on is trying to figure out those pain points. I just had a big aha moment over the weekend, put some stuff together. I've got a— I mean, it's been 6 years and I'm still working on my framework for, for my business. And one of the key points and key elements, and it'll probably change again in another 5 years, but, but really focusing on people. And that's what I teach in entrepreneur training program. Working with business, business plans and business canvas and those sorts of things. And it's the same thing. It's whether the pain point, who's your target market and how are you going to help them? That's really the focus of it, right?
So how do you— let's kind of dive into that a bit. If someone's starting out, for example, and they're like, I don't even know how to find like my target market, maybe they don't even have a network. What kind of advice do you have to help them find those pain points, find that target market?
Well, I think, you know, you want to— again, it's kind of similar to maybe your core values, and that's reflecting on the experiences in your life. What were the things that really triggered you? And maybe in a good way, in a responsible way, what are the things that, you know, why figure out your why? Simon Sinek has wrote a good book, Find Your Why. Maybe that's a place where you can start. And I get no residuals from promoting the book, by the way. But yeah, you know, finding that, you know, that, that can take you through an exercise of really finding out your why. What are the reasons that you, you want to do this? Once you know your reasons, okay, then who are the people that fit in that target market? And I know because I did the same thing as a solopreneur. You probably did too, James, when you started out. Everybody's my client. Well, I would take, I would take anybody as a client, but if I'm messaging everybody, nobody's going to find me, right? So one of the best lessons I had was you need to repel people as much as you need to attract them. That's, and that's why I need a target market so you can really focus your message, focus what you're going to say on Facebook, LinkedIn. Whatever tools, whatever online tools that you use. But, but just really thinking through specifically who can I reach with my why?
Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, even, even like an example from me when I first started, I didn't even know what like coaching or, you know, that kind of stuff was, but I just knew that I wanted to help people in some way. And then I found out about coaching, but I used to do construction work. I followed my dad's footsteps and I was doing well financially, benefits, all that stuff. But I despised my job. And I started out as a general life coach and I found out early on that marketing yourself as just a life coach is very broad. It's very vague, so it doesn't really cut through the noise and really attract the right kind of people. And I mean, I think that people can get a little too niche when it comes to finding this target audience, but if you can just think semi-broad, like for me, I work with a lot of coaches and content creators because That's what I wanted to do when I first started because like I saw myself creating YouTube videos and creating content online and working with people and now I get to do that. But it was an evolution over the course of like many years. But like, yeah, if I just think like coaches, content creators, like those are the people that I like to help because I was in the shoes of like, where do I even start? How do I do this? You know? And I've learned so much over the years and now I get to share that kind of stuff with them. And I mean, I imagine for you it's like, leaders, you know, which is like, it's one keyword. But like, if you, if you can look at a group of people and you're like, that person's the leader, then I mean, you can kind of connect with them.
And I think, you know, I think you kind of pointed this to James, you have to be willing to fail. Too often, too often as an entrepreneur, we wait for everything to be perfect, either jumping in or jumping off or whatever the case might be. And I did, I got my degree from college in teaching, did a lot of teaching in high school and coaching and sports. And so I started, when I started my entrepreneurial journey, I did a lot of some work with some high schools and I just found out that I didn't, I didn't like, I didn't really like that. So that eliminated a whole chunk of a target market, education, right? I'm staying out of that realm. And then I started doing a lot of work with manufacturing businesses and really found that I really found, you know, kind of a niche there. I'm also doing some work with human resource groups. So it's been kind of by trial and error. So I would say get out and do it. And as you do it, you're going to figure out and be able to focus better into who your target market is as well. But don't like wait for some, you know, magic thing in the mail to come and tell you what it is. Try some things, see what you like, see what you don't like, and you're going to learn so much through the experiences. Like you said, James, that's really the key. Getting out and doing it.
Yeah. One of my favorite sayings, I don't know who originally said it, but it's with action or clarity comes from action. And I always say that because like I have new ideas. Like for example, I'm doing a little project in my business right now. I use Kajabi to run my business and it's just the best business tool in my opinion for like, especially for like creating passive income and that kind of stuff. And I'm doing a 60 days of Kajabi. So I'm making 60 videos and I'm going to schedule them out every single day over the course of 60 days. So heads up, it's coming. But I'm It's a lot. So I've already planned out all the videos and now I'm just shooting the short tutorials and whatnot to get it all done. Cause there's an affiliate program so I can do that and then people can book calls with me and that kind of stuff. So it's very helpful for my business, but it's kind of overwhelming because I'm like 60, 60 videos in 60 days. Like, how am I going to do this? And what I kind of realized was like, if I can just make, like lay out the video ideas, that'll be my first step. And that was kind of that inspired action. So I'm really big on like, if you get excited about something and it keeps showing up, you know, from inside, then like pursue it. And for me at this point, it's that 60 days of Kajabi, but it used to be just starting the business. And, uh, just by writing out all the video topic ideas and doing all the research to find which ones people are actually going to look up on the internet and whatnot, then I laid them all out and I'm like, cool, what's next? And then what's like the next inspired action? So simply just like you said, like taking that first small action is so huge.
It's funny you mentioned that because that's kind of what happened to me with this framework I mentioned over the weekend. I started, I kind of had this aha moment while I was driving back from my grandson's basketball tournament. And I, I got back and I started plugging things into this document and I got done and it was like, yeah, this is, this is, I'm getting there now. And then I realized to your point that here's all my messaging now. I've got my messaging all lined up for me without really even realizing it that I can plug all these different pieces into different messages every day. I'm not as ambitious as videos, but Anyway, on, you know, on LinkedIn and different content and things. So, but, but yeah, I mean, like I said, it's taken me 6 years to get there and I know it'll, it'll change more, but it's, it's a fun journey. It's so exciting when you kind of have that aha moment. It might happen your first month, it might be your first year, it might be 5 years down the road. But, but, but you have to keep trying things and having those experiences.
Yeah. Kind of to add to that real quick, I think it's the, the mindset that you have to be in of like, I don't care how long it takes. That's, you know, that's what has helped me stay in the game through all my ups and downs. You know, I thought about quitting, you know, years ago and just like becoming a firefighter or something. I was like, I could do that. You know, people ask me like, are you a firefighter? Cause I give off the energy, I guess. But I'm like, no, I'm not a firefighter. You know, but it's like, no, cause I, I always just go back to like my, my why ultimately. And those are what kind of kept me guiding through. And since then, you know, I've been able to help way more people. I've been able to achieve higher levels of success just because I stayed in the game, you know.
And we've, we've, we've both been, you know, kind of dancing around with, with talking about the inner circle, who are people closest to you. And then you just talked about clarity. There's, there's a group, there's 4 of us that get together once a week for an hour and we, we, we kind of beat on each other in a very sharing, caring kind of way.
Yeah.
But about our messaging and the tools we're using and whatever's on our mind. So One of us gets 45 minutes to lay out a problem and we're on the hot seat. The other one from the last time gets 15 minutes to kind of do the follow-up. And, and we kind of rotate through this every week. And it's a great, it's a great way. And again, surround yourself with those people that can help you with those decisions about clarity, about target market and really lean on other people and their experiences. Plus, plus the other, the other ones that you have on your own. Yeah.
So powerful. One topic that I did want to cover while I have you here is public speaking. Because that's kind of like your sweet sauce. It's a big thing of what you do in your business. A lot of people would love to speak on stages. I used to do a lot of speaking on stages and then COVID hit, you know, and I always had the vision of just being like purely online. So that's what I really like moved to. But I used to do a lot of speaking mainly because of my coaching institute. That's what they taught us. Speak on stages, invite people from those events to do calls with you, and then you can enroll them into like coaching with you longer term. But it's such a great way to build a brand to get your message out there. You can do TEDx, TED Talks, all that kind of stuff. What advice do you have to people in terms of like just getting started with speaking, but also how to find speaking gigs?
Sure, sure. Well, one of the best pieces of advice I got, or yeah, advice is nobody knows what you're gonna say except for you. So if you forget something or maybe it isn't quite in the same order or whatever the case might be, rather than throwing your arms up and have a fit on stage, just keep going. Because nobody knows what you're going to say. So I think that, that helped me a lot getting through it. And then the other thing to do is start, start small, you know, speak at Rotary, Lions, Optimists, Kiwanis, all those different service organizations. There's, there's smaller groups that are hungry for presentations. They won't, they won't, they don't pay typically, but you get to usually get a lunch or breakfast out of it.
Yeah.
So, so speak at those different groups, find those service groups. A lot of, a lot of high schools look for, for guest speakers to come in. I've partnered with, with our technical colleges, community colleges in the area as well, both in their— if you look for continuing education speaking opportunities or in the area of workforce, economic development and business services, two different tracks in our school anyway. And that helped me get going as well. And then if you go online and Google associate, you know, if you're interested in— you mentioned construction. Construction associations in Wisconsin. It'll pop up all these different associations, go to their websites, find out when they have speaking opportunities, and you can apply there. So those are a few different tricks or ways to get started, right?
Yeah. I think it's important to have like a daily flow where you can say, I'm going to call 10 people today or send 10 emails or something at least, you know, and then you can do 20 or whatever you feel you can actually keep up with. One thing that's really helped me in terms of just like articulating messages, because people are like, I feel like I'm going to screw up with, I get out there is obviously just practice. That's like the biggest thing. But a great way to practice, I feel like a lot of people don't think about is just starting a podcast. You know, it could be just be a pure podcast. Don't even care about getting discovered per se. But like if you can just do 30 minutes of just talking, even just once a week and just like going off the cuff, having like a topic idea, a couple points, you're literally practicing public speaking in a way. It's just you're not standing in front of a group of people.
Yeah, it's a great idea. Great.
Yeah. I mean, well, that's like, that's why I started a podcast. And if you look at my old podcast, I was doing a lot of solo episodes. Now I'm moving into doing more interviews because I miss interviews. I like the synergy of what we have, you know, and the value it can bring to my audience. But it really helped me just in being able to think on my feet and link words together. Because when you hit record and you make the commitment of I'm not going to stop, you know, until the end of the recording, I fumble on my words all the time, but I've gotten better at listening back to my recording. And noticing where like my filler words are, like, um, or, uh, you know, and those kind of things. And that's been super helpful for me in terms of just talking better.
Another trick is if you tend to swear a little bit, tell the audience that for every time you swear, you'll do 5 pushups. So there's been a couple, there's been a couple times where I've had to do 10. I actually, I get so fired up, you know, and I let one slip out and I'm like, oh geez, I gotta do pushups now, you know? But, but I think the other, another really important element too, James, is I'm sure you know this, is make sure for every point you make you have a story, and for every story you have a point. Because people, you know, data is okay, and, but people will remember the stories you tell, and they'll engage in the stories. And if the stories talk about your own pain points in relationship to theirs, that really helps as well. And usually 3 per, per speech or, or speaking engagement is enough. And, and, but, but really the story part I think is really the part to focus on too.
Totally. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, we've been telling stories throughout this whole thing and it's just such a natural thing for people just sharing who you are and the authenticity that you have inside of your message. I think that it really does cut through the noise because yeah, what's the saying? It's, uh, people don't remember what you say as much as how you made them feel.
Right. Right.
Yeah. And stories really have that feeling, the connection, the authenticity there. So that's huge.
Yeah.
Um, Cool, Todd. Well, there's a question I love to ask people when they guest on the podcast, and it's, what do you think we— like, I guess, um, why don't people take action? We, we live in this world where like there's so much information nowadays. It used to be where you don't have as much— the information was the hard part, but action was like the work ethic was there. Now it's like flip-flop. Now it's tons of information, no work ethic. So what do you think is the main reason that people don't do it? And what can we do to just get someone to take action? Because I don't want people to just consume this podcast. I want them to actually do something with it.
I think first of all they should do is, is decide one thing, just one simple thing that you want to do that you haven't done before as a result of this podcast and just try it. There have been a lot of things I failed on and, and I've had people help me get outside my comfort zone. My first Facebook Live was a mess. It was a mess. But now, now I can do it a little. You know, I'm better at it now. I won't say I'm perfect yet, but, but just, you have, you have to try it because our comfort zone and fear, all those different things get in our way. And our cultures, you know, can be so divisive. But don't worry about that. Just try. Because all the people, you know, what do they say? Edison failed 10,000 times before he invented the light bulb. You know, Michael Jordan, you know, he missed half his shots and You know, baseball player, you know, there's all those, you know, but until you try it and, you know, try small if you want and have a little failure, you're going to have a lot more success and just keep failing forward. That's, that's, I guess, the best advice I can give.
Totally. Yeah. And I think it all does fall back on that why, because like Michael Jordan, for example, Thomas Edison, they had a why. The incandescent light bulb, becoming a great basketball player, you know, being a content creator, having your own business, whatever it is like, you have to have that why that I don't know if Simon Sinek said it, but the why that makes you cry, it's like, it's so impactful and you, you can't, it's the work that you can't, or the thing that you can't not do. And I think that that is, that is like the thing that always falls back on. Cuz if you really can't not do it, then you will do whatever it takes to, to make it happen. So getting specific about that one thing that you can just act on, if it today it was just like finding your why. Then act on that. Or if it was from what Todd shared about core values, if you could just list those 5 core values and then put them on your phone, that's awesome. And then try to abide by them every day. Just pick one thing that you can stick with.
Absolutely. And I think the other thing too is express gratitude. That's that servant attitude again, servant leadership. But share gratitudes with others and it's going to come back to you as well. And then when it does come back to you, accept it graciously. You'll get thanks for your speaking or your business, whatever the case might be. And really take a moment to let those soak in because we don't get it as often as maybe we'd like as solopreneurs. So make sure you give it out, but also make sure you accept it well too.
Totally beautiful, Todd. Where can people connect with you? Where can people find you, learn more about what you're doing in the world?
Well, everything's based on my first name and last name. That's my, my website is toddkukan.com. I'm on LinkedIn, I'm on Facebook. I'd love to talk more if you want, somebody about core values and the things we've talked about. But Yeah, send me a direct message or shoot me an email and I'd love to talk to you.
Awesome. We'll put links down in the description of this episode as well so you can connect with Todd. That's all we got for you today. Take one thing that you learned from today's episode, run with it, act on it, and then adjust from there. Until next time, we will see you in the next episode.
