From Blue Collar To The Digital Nomad Infinite Banker

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All right, welcome everybody, to another episode of Wealth Without Bay street. And we're joined today by our special guest, Andrew Murdoch. Andrew's joining us all the way from Scotland because he couldn't get back here, so he's been stuck there for.

I thought he just loved haggis and.

Well, that could be right. That could be it too. And so golf, haggis. What are some other things?

He's. He's on. He's on a. He's in a mini vacation, mini retirement. He's learning. He's vested himself into learning how to do the bagpipes professionally. So he can play AC DC equivalent bagpipes.

Totally. That's what he was sharing before we started the show. And so we're super pleased to have Andrew with us, otherwise known as the Digital Nomad. And I'm so impressed with Andrew's story because he's really been traveling the world and we just thought that we could bring so much unique value to our audience with this podcast episode. And so, Andrew, it's so good to be with you. Thanks for joining us.

Thank you for having me. And yeah, the whole traveling the world thing, do you remember those days? Do you remember what that was like when we used to be able to travel the world?

Yeah, like we were sharing earlier, circa.

Q1, 2020, when we could travel the world.

So presently it's for the benefit of our listeners. It's day 647,279 of the COVID 19.

Pandemic. Yeah.

So Andrew, tell us.

Jason's not prone to hyperbole in any way, shape or form. If you've listened to any of our previous podcasts.

By the way, tell us a little bit about what brought us together here today, Andrew, and what's been keeping you busy all the way in Scotland?

Well, I definitely have a less than average story, career history, professional background that brought me to currently speaking with you find gents digitally remotely from Scotland. But I actually have a background in blue collar industries. I was a firefighter. I was a train conductor for Sea and Rail. I was a Canadian coast guard rescue diver stationed at the hovercraft base in Vancouver and spent the bulk of my adult life working shift work and steel toe boots or fins and certainly had an up close and personal perspective of the whole living a paycheck to paycheck kind of lifestyle, especially living in a city like Vancouver. And one day I just kind of woke up and thought, no, this isn't for me anymore. Found myself working in telephone sales for six months and wow, what a learning curve that was. And then stayed in sales and transitioned into insurance actually when I came across a unique product that was able to protect people in a very unique way. And coming from the blue collar background, I was able to identify that value quite quickly. And then from there transitioned into a remote job working for an American tech company, getting into marketing and quickly realized that living in an expensive place like Vancouver was not getting me ahead anytime soon. And I knew I'm already working remotely, why am I here? So I booked a one way ticket which was sort of a nerve wracking experience for anyone who's done that for the first time. And then I just didn't stop booking one way tickets and found myself jumping all over the globe, wherever I wanted, whenever I wanted and reclaimed and just captured a sense of freedom that I always dreamed of, but mistakenly thought that I, I was gonna have to wait till retirement for that kind of lifestyle. And I'm very grateful to have learned that it's a whole way of life that many people discover. And I found myself in Scotland when the pandemic hit. I'm very grateful, very lucky to be in a safe location part of the world. We have shops nearby and drinkable water out of the tap. And I have nothing to complain about. There's a lot of hard times right now for a lot of people and I feel for everyone out there who's experiencing some rough patch, but that's probably putting it mildly.

Wow.

And you know, each time we would connect through your travels and it was always exciting to know where you were and you know, how you would describe your surroundings and what was keeping you busy and the culture that you were immersing yourself in, the people that you were getting to know and it's just such an interesting story and you're able to, through your digital nomad journey, you're now in a position where you're bringing value to people, you're helping them with digital, you know, really expanding their digital presence, whether it's on social media, whether it's, you know, some of the great tips that you were able to share with, with me around youtubing and LinkedIn and all these different things. So maybe give listeners just a perspective on, you know, what's keeping you busy. Nowadays.

Yeah, I think, I think it's. Thanks for asking. That's a really great question because I found myself in marketing. But that doesn't mean to say that to live a remote working, remote living lifestyle, you have to end up in marketing. It certainly does depend on your personal set of skills and talents and abilities. And that's just where I found my life went that direction. And I'm fortunate and grateful for that. I think I have the, the sense that a lot of people kind of paint themselves into a corner these days. A lot of people. See, I think nobody really enjoys being told what to do. Nobody wants to fight, nobody, nobody wants to put on a mask. If they want to wear a mask or I don't want to. Someone might want to go on vacation to a tropical part of the world and now they can't book flights and nobody really enjoyed.

Nobody wants to put those steel toed fins on because that's dangerous.

Yeah, you laugh, but I was wearing steel toed boots underwater, stomping around. I actually, in my, in my dive class. As long as you bring it up. In my dive class, I recorded the, the longest bottom time on a single dive. I was underwater in the Fraser river for almost four hours. And let me tell you, you don't realize what you are capable of until you are put in an uncomfortable position. And then you move that platform a little bit higher and you become a better version of yourself. And you can use that example for anywhere in life. And I came out of that water frozen, just blew. But then that moved my gauge because then all of a sudden I realized what I was capable of. Right. That's important because right now people are going through some tough times. They perhaps had an offline business and were forced to move their business online. Or maybe they already had an online presence and now they're trying to ramp things up. There are fantastic stories everywhere. I was hearing about this pizza restaurant. 70% of their business were single slice pizza slices. And they were able to convert their operations somewhat so that they could make those of face masks, molding their face masks in their oven and are now providing medical equipment to hospitals in their local area.

Wow. Phenomenal.

That's an innovation.

And your story of Fraser river perseverance also very good and very timely I think for people to hear. In fact, I'm moving much closer to the Fraser river, so I found that particularly interesting. I will probably go and visit the banks, but I will not be spending four hours underneath it.

I don't suspect, don't recommend it. Nothing to See down there.

So, so what advice would you be providing to, you know, small business, medium sized business owners who are really obviously understanding that they have to, they have to shift.

Right.

Because there won't be any such thing from a business perspective of returning to normal if you're still there. That's behind you now. There's a new way forward. So what advice would you give to those folks?

Yeah, I agree with that statement completely. There is going to be a new normal after this. We've witnessed a massive social shift in what's acceptable. Right. And I think the most important currency that anyone in any industry should be paying attention to is attention. And I mean, yeah, of course I'm biased because I'm in marketing, but everyone is in sales. Everyone is in marketing. At the end of the day, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a business model that didn't involve some sort of marketing or sales in their business model. And so right now I think people need to be focused on attention. Now the good news is, the good news is it's easier now to get attention than it's ever been before. You can grab your phone, you can shoot a quick selfie video, post that on POD on a, create a podcast. You could post that on YouTube, you could post that on any social media platform. These are all free, free platforms that you don't need to pay a fee for. And you can get your message out there, you can share your brand. Now the bad news is it's just as easy for everybody else to do the same thing. So there is a competitive nature to that and that's why people hire professional digital marketers to get that unfair advantage. And you and I, Jason, you and I were talking about how to improve the YouTube channel. Love what you guys are doing on the channel. And I've been a fan for a long time. I was flattered when you asked me to join. And there's a cumulative factor when it comes to this stuff. And I don't want to. The last thing we'd want to do is make a business owner, small, medium sized business owner, feel anxious or nervous about this transition because it's cumulative. The first, all you have to do is hit that record button, write a blog, create a podcast, do guest blogs on other websites. There's all kinds of ways to create content that will drive attention towards you so that you can gain some traction in a virtual and digital way. And then once you find your stride, you'll notice that it's actually quite scalable. It's actually a Lot more leverageable now because every blog, every podcast you guys film, that's now a soldier that's working for you. 24, 7, you did it once. Now it's out there online and people are commenting or liking or sharing on the content. 24, 7, you did your job once and now it'll pay off dividends for weeks and months and years to come.

Do you think that people have unrealistic expectations of the results that they're looking for from social media from a marketing perspective? I think that's been something that's come up so often in all the clients that we talk to who operate businesses, and they're maybe looking at it, I think it's really easy to dismiss it. If you try it and you don't have a realistic expectation or a realistic timeframe and a realistic level of commitment and consistency, then you, you'll be disappointed because most, at least you know what folks that I know have told me and what we've experienced. When you first implement a marketing strategy, let's call it advertising, or let's just call it being on social media, it really sucks at first.

If you have no presence, you're starting from scratch, et cetera. It's no different than any other type of asset that you want to create. You have to put. You're starting, it's like you're starting a brand new business. Just it's a business within your business. It's a marketing campaign effort that the purpose is to drive more business. But ultimately it's starting from scratch. And so it has to get legs underneath it. And you mentioned hitting your stride, Andrew, I love that, that phrase. And I think what you're identifying is that you have to be able to commit. You can do all these things, you can do them for free, you can get it up and running. You have that advantage to be able to work on a platform that everyone else on the planet can work with. Where it, where it falls off the tracks is if you lack the commitment to do so.

You guys are 100% on the right track there ultimately, and it's a shame to admit this, but ultimately the majority of people out there are impatient. Everyone wants it and wants it now, and there's delayed gratification and instant gratification. And if you are Starting off at zero, you create a YouTube account, you create a Facebook account or whatever, and you start with zero. It will take that resiliency, it will take that fortitude, because content is king. That's true. Content is king. However, frequency is right up there along with the actual content because no one's going to listen to you if you have nothing to say. So you have to be creating content, writing blogs, creating podcasts, creating videos on a very regular basis. And no, you're not going to knock it out of the park every single time. And in the beginning, hate to break it to you, no one's going to pay attention. But if you keep showing up, if you keep showing up, then you will attract your ideal clients, your ideal follower, people will come across your content and they'll resonate with you. And you will naturally not resonate with a percentage of the viewers and readers as well, which is exactly what you want. That's what you want because by the time someone actually enters your business funnel, they're already, in a sense pre qualified. They already know, like and trust you. And that's a big part of it.

Well, one thing I love that you identified there too, if you're starting from zero from scratch, is that you walk through several of the different components as to how much work is involved there that that content and frequency combination. It's the one, two punch of your social media marketing efforts. And if you don't have both of them, well, then you're just a one punch, one punch pony wonder, one punch wonder. Anyway, either way, it's just not going to work. And so that's where a person like me, who maybe has a little bit less on the patient side of things, really good at getting things up and running, but then it's like, ah, then I'm distracted, I'm over here doing something else. And so having a person like Jason, who's got a little bit more follow through aspects and he's got a team of people around him, really works well for that's one of the reasons why we work so well together is because we bring both of those strengths into the equation. And I think what's really here is you're leveling up the importance of don't underestimate the amount of effort and commitment that's required that either you have to do as an individual or you need to make sure that you have a team of people, a digital marketing expert with you to help leverage that capacity and the knowledge and the plan around getting it done.

Bingo. And think, Andrew, about, you know, all of your experience, your work experience, in particular, the experience that you had with the Coast Guard. I mean, you really learned how to operate in high stress situations, but you didn't learn how to do that without going through a number of mock scenarios. Imagine just being thrown into it, you could likely injure yourself or injure the person that you're trying to rescue or a combination of both. And so it took a lot of practice, a lot of repetition, a lot of coaching, a lot of, a lot of that. And so how did you translate that or bring that with you into your business now? How do you serve your clients? What's your process? How do you bring value to them?

That's a really good question, really good points. And before I dive into that, I would love to just touch on two aspects of the previous subject. There, there is a way to scale things up for those who have the resources you mentioned. Jason has a team and that will obviously speed things up. If you have resources that you can hire staff or a freelancer to help you scale things up, of course you're going to be able to grow your presence a lot quicker. And the I like to pay attention to what the experts are doing. Right. It's going to shorten my learning curve. And you know, Gary Vaynerchuk, Gary Vee, who's probably the most famous marketer on the planet, likes to tell people to document, don't worry about creating anything, just document. Just document. And you'd be surprised how well that actually does because people are actually these days, right now in 2020, people can tell when they're being sold to.

Yeah.

And we all crave for authenticity. I didn't get to Traffic and Conversion Summit this year in San Diego because of COVID but they had rescheduled to December last year. I was there, San Diego, and I watched Dean Graziosi on stage explain that ugly outperforms pretty every time. Ugly outperforms pretty meaning you grab your cell phone and you shoot a selfie video and create an ad, a social ad about that. Do paid campaigns. And again, having resources to scale up your traction quicker.

Right.

And these people spend tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars on split testing. It's called AB testing, where they were testing the how effective a selfie video of you holding a shaky smartphone video versus paying tens of thousands of dollars for a big crew with professional gear and equipment. And the shaky selfie hand camera ad outperforms the high end professional video. So Dean's not a dumb guy. So.

And by a long shot.

By exactly by a long shot. And Dean Graziosi and Tony Robbins did the largest, by far the largest product launch in Internet history last year called kbb, the Knowledge Business Blueprint. At the time, that's what it was called. And they, they signed up something about 20,000 people plus in one week. No one has done accomplished anything like that since and before. So these are the kinds of marketers and professionals that I pay attention to. And I would encourage a software developer, I would encourage E commerce people, I would encourage you to pay attention to the greats, the top people in your industry, to shorten your learning curve. Now to catch up to Jason's question there. Thanks for dealing with that little background. First, I just think it's important to touch on some of these aspects to increase your chances of success. Anyone who's watching this, you will increase your chances of success if you focus on these fundamental truths. And I created Digital Nomad Journey. I create a brand called Digital Nomad Journey. And I made a commitment to post one video a week and create content across all the different social channels for free. I don't have any products, I don't have any services. I probably will one day, but just for free for sustainability reasons. But as of right now, I have no pay products. I think right now it's far more valuable and important to help people. People are frightened, people are scared. And I get that because it's really easy to focus on all the negative stuff that's being thrown at us all the time. But there's a lot of positive stuff to think about too. There's lots of opportunities in the marketplace. Every economy will have markets that decrease, stay stagnant or increase. And there are plenty of markets that are increasing right now. If you pay attention, if you just open up your eyes and take a look around. We used to have a saying in the railway. Head on a swivel. Railway was a very dangerous place. I had a classmate that was killed on the job a year after we were hired. That didn't mean to take the conversations that direction, but the reality is the railway is a very dangerous place to work. Head on a swivel. Head on a swivel. Always pay attention to your surroundings. What's that crew doing down there?

What?

What's that inbound train doing? What track are they on? Inbound coming at us right now. You want to be paying attention to your environment. And even people who are paying attention to their environment, no one could predict Covid. Nobody could predict a pandemic. And so this is our current reality. It's time to adjust. It's time to survive. It's time to adapt and be flexible. And now resiliency is a lot more important. Being resourceful is a lot more important now than it was six months ago.

And if you're seeking opportunity well, then that's what your eyes and your ears are on the lookout for. And that's what your, you know, your eyes and your ears only really pay attention to what your brain's looking for. And so I agree with Andrew completely. Like, you can get caught up in the fear, the hysteria, all of that. I recognize the magnitude of COVID 19, but I also recognize the magnitude of really turning on the blinders to all of the opportunity and the amazing abundance that's out there.

You identified a couple of keywords that I really appreciate, which was adaptability, flexibility, and resilience. And so there's doing that in your business and your marketing efforts, and it's also just bringing that back to just your basic financial life. I mean, if you've been impacted financially somehow because of this pandemic, I mean, now's the time to consider how do you want to adapt, be flexible and create resiliency in your financial life on a go forward basis completely. Right. Which is one of the reasons why this podcast was created, is to provide more tools and resources to be able to help people, show them ways that they can do that well.

And, you know, if you think of what Andrew's describing, if you build this, you know, I'll just call it assets for life. Lack of better description. Information assets, what you really, truly are building. Because wealth is not money.

It's not.

And so if you want to correlate it to the show what you really are, you're building a wealth of assets without Bay street in being able to expand your digital presence, because people are spending more and more and more time on their phones, on their tablets, on their iPads, on their YouTubes and the Facebooks and all these other things. So you need to develop an offering, Andrew.

I agree. I agree. I think. And you're very well spoken. So I certainly think it would be a valuable asset to many people to have buy the things that comes out of Andrew's offerings. They're probably gonna be phenomenal. Completely. And where can people find you other than in Scotland? Yeah. Without.

They can't go there to find you. So where can they find you?

Online?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they found me here, the first question is like, how'd you get here?

I can't see you. It would be super weird if there was a knock on your. Outside your door right now while we're doing this. And it's like someone's like, I'm here, I'm here. I was listening to the podcast.

Who tracked him down.

People can find me at my email is andrewigitalnomadjourney.com I just published a free book that I encourage everyone to go get right now. Go to digitalnomadjourney.com I'm sure we'll make sure the link is in the description below. It was just launched and I'd be more than happy, more than happy to schedule one hour coaching sessions, free coaching sessions with your audience members who are seeking a more remote lifestyle. Because I was there, I was there a couple years ago when I booked that one way flight. I know how it can be a nerve wracking experience. What am I going to do? How's this going to look? How am I going to pack? A million questions goes through your head at once. And the reason why I'm so passionate about this lifestyle is because, yeah, right now we're talking about COVID But before that I was having these conversations before COVID was a thing because it wasn't that long ago we had a terrible fire season in Australia where people lost their businesses because they were too busy trying to save their homes. Before that it was California. Right. And all you have to do is turn on the news and see any one of a dozen examples of civil and political unrest. What are all of these events doing to local businesses? Major, major disruptions. And now all of a sudden pandemics and these kinds of risks are now very real and at the forefront. And there are technologies right now being developed making remote lifestyle more acceptable. Businesses and firms are all of a sudden not. They're actually encouraging their employees to work from home instead of trying to fight that move. People are able employees and freelancers are actually reporting a happier balance of lifestyle. They're reporting lower expenses. Employers are reporting higher profits. There's lots of firms out there. Twitter just announced just a couple days ago that they're allowing their employees to work from home in perpetuity forever. There's a lot of firms out there. They're going to save millions in commercial real estate. And whenever a business sees improved margins, it's a no brainer. In fact, they're going to be forcing their employees to work from home from now on. There's all kinds of opportunity. Peter Diamandis, super famous futurist, he's predicting that the population that have access to the Internet, which is approximately 3.5 billion give or take right now, is going to double and it's going to reach 8 billion people will have access to gigabyte speed connections at near zero costs in the next four years. So what's that going to do? To people living that digital, nomadic or remote working lifestyle. It's just going to get better, it's going to improve. You're going to have Internet access out in the middle of nowhere and you're going to be able to write that blog or create that video. YouTube is reporting a 66% increase in view times since COVID happened.

People are learning how to code, we're seeing our YouTube video views go up.

It's such good things. And I love listening to Peter D. Madison, especially the podcast he does with Dan Sullivan, who Dan Sullivan seems to make an appearance on all of our podcasts and that's the Exponential Wisdom podcast. I that particular one was recommended me by a colleague a number of years ago and it's really reframed a lot of my thinking, especially around understanding longevity and thinking about how trends change and how technologies are on the cusp of making really implement integral change into the way that we conduct day to day activities and businesses. So I really appreciate you touching on that because I think we're in for a very interesting surprise in the new normal. Agreed.

And thank you Andrew for being kind enough to provide your, you know, one hour consultation offer. I think that's phenomenal, being able to get a copy of your free book. We're so happy it's free. We can put it on our credit card. But we're very grateful for you for offering that. And so, you know, what are some things that you're seeing with maybe folks that you're already connecting with? Like what is some of the common advice that you're providing? You know, from knowing that content creation is one thing, but for example, in our business, so one of our, you know, coaches, I guess, if you will, who helps us in that area, Frank Kern, he says, you know, help people by actually helping them. So if you're going to publish content, if you're just out there and you're being the slick salesy, hey, come buy my stuff versus let me help you by actually demonstrating that I can help you. And by way of doing that, it will build know like and trust. And then when I'm positioning something that I think would be of value to you, it really falls into the no brainer category because you already know me. And so are you seeing something similar with, you know, the maybe folks that you're connecting with where they maybe want to go down that path of shouting from the rooftops, buy my stuff and come and purchase something from me? I don't know you yet and you don't know me versus that different route. Because you just said it. You're offering a lot of your advice and content for free.

Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that point. And Frank Kern is amazing. He was at Traffic and Conversion Summit last year when I was there. He's an incredible speaker and I follow a lot of his stuff, too. Obviously, being a marketer, I have to pay attention to him. Yeah, it's wonderful. Wonderful. So, yeah, on that note, and to make sure that this video really does contain some real value to you, the viewer, I would love to share some insights that I've noticed in some specific markets and industries that are doing well right now. And I actually write about this in my book and I've talked about it just in my local circles. It's important to always recognize before you look for a job. Maybe you just got laid off and you're looking for a job right now, or maybe you're an entrepreneur and you want to create your own business or develop a product. It's always important to make sure that the market exists before you invest all that time, money and effort into the process. And it could be any one of those examples. You could be an employee or an entrepreneur. So it's important to recognize that certain industries have died off. Travel is one of them. Obviously, I would not be looking for a job in that industry or trying to develop services in travel. However, there are a whole number of markets that are showing exponential growth and are expected to continue showing growth. At home business, any product or service at home business is exploding. At home fitness. Again, exploding. How about contactless products? Can you imagine how successful if this is the example that I thought of recently, if someone was able to develop a contactless elevator button, I would love that. I always hated touching those things, even before all of this.

Right.

How about family connection? There's a lot of people out there that are isolated and are feeling crazy levels of loneliness that they've never experienced before. There's a reason why the Zoom app is doing so well these days. Yeah, there's a lot of examples of markets that are dying for help. And that doesn't necessarily mean that you need to learn to be a marketer, but you may already have skills and abilities to get into an industry that's going to be doing nothing but growth. I had a conversation recently with an out placement expert. She said, andrew, I've never been so busy my entire Life. I have 400 people on my list to get to an outplacement expert recruitment, hr. There's lots of industries out there that are dying for good people. So Just paying a little bit of attention to those industries that are showing signs of crazy growth. And I don't see those markets slowing down anytime soon. Market will demand value that the marketplace will have to provide. And that is the complete opposite from any slick salesman talk trying to scam people off of something that has no real value. Warren Buffett likes to say that price is what you pay, but value is what you get.

Wow, that's good. That's real good. Andrew, it was such a pleasure to have you with us on this episode of Wealth Without Bay Street. Any parting remarks that you'd like to share with our audience?

Oh, and maybe a quick resource on for those looking for that remote lifestyle, what's a good kind of gateway? Perhaps your free book will do this, but we'll call it a gateway drug into understanding what that lifestyle is all about. For me was kind of the Four Hour Work Week by Tim Ferriss. So I'm just curious, what was maybe a catalyst that got you down that path?

Oh, great question and great book. Great question. Oh, that, that's a hard one for me because, well, I grew up as a kid watching James Bond movies and I was heartbroken when the new James Bond movie was rescheduled to November, but I understood why. And seeing James Bond re visit all the exotic locations around the world and thinking, geez, I would love to have a lifestyle like that. So I think that was probably planting some seeds when I was a wee lad. But there was, there was. It comes, it comes back to I don't enjoy being told what I can or cannot do and I'm not planning on retiring anytime soon, but I do enjoy my lifestyle very much and the fact that I can fold up my laptop and get to safety if my current location was no longer habitable for whatever reason, and I can grab my loved ones and I can get to safety and then set up shop. That to me represents power and control and confidence. And I took baby steps at first, right? And I just kept becoming a better version of myself, a better version of myself until I finally found myself and truly felt comfortable calling myself a digital nomad. And I had no idea what was coming. And then all of a sudden I realized I had carved out a life that provided me options and choices where other people, maybe they were making six, seven figures, maybe they're a high powered investment banker, but they can't get to their place of work anymore, so they're not actually earning an income anymore. So all of a sudden they're now realizing that they were actually exposed to a risk that they never identified before. So I would encourage people to set themselves up for success and develop, even if it's a side hustle or a side thing at first, to develop some way to bring value to the marketplace in a digital and virtual way. And a year from now or two years from now, you'll be really glad you did.

Excellent.

Excellent.

Well done, Andrew.

We appreciate you very much. Thank you for being here. You know, we always talk about when we end our show that, you know, we reference. You know, not all heroes wear capes. And whenever you bring additional value to someone and you help them maybe take a different path in their life or you have some form of positive influence, then you're a hero to that person. And so one of the things that we always like to ask our guests at the end of the show is, who do you want to be a hero to?

Great question, and I knew it was coming. I want to be a hero to the person who is perhaps putting themselves in uncomfortable positions to put food on the table. And that could be risky situations, dangerous situations, unhealthy situations, maybe because of toxins that they're breathing at work or putting themselves in harm's way. I'm just going to use the railway as an example again, because it's the first thing that's come to mind, I can tell you. I looked at my job, I looked at the industry much differently. When my classmate lost his life on the job, he left behind a wife and two little girls, and that really affected me. I looked at everything differently and I realized that that's not really worth any kind of paycheck. And so I would love to be a hero to those people who are feeling stuck or painted into a corner, thinking that they don't have any other options. Because you do. You do have options. You are a human being. You have creativity, you have insight, you have consciousness. And with a strong enough why, you can develop skills, new skill sets that will give you options to step away from a career that does not satisfy you.

That's good.

Thank you, Andrew. We appreciate you very much.

And I'm sure all those people appreciate you also.

Definitely. And to all those viewers, all the listeners, you'll be well. Well served. Checking out Andrew and his content that he's offered to our listening audience. And we appreciate you, Andrew. So stay safe over in Scotland, and I can't wait for our next semi annual touch base. I always anticipate where you're going to be in the world, and so we wish you safe travels wherever they may take you.

And while you're there and you're practicing, becoming a complete expert at your bagpipes. If you want to put a new jingle together for us for the podcast, I mean, we'll certainly consider it as an option.

How about the Darth Vader theme? We might have some copyright issues. All right.

Thanks, Andrew.

I appreciate you guys keep doing these.

You bet.

Thanks.

We appreciate you.

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