Canine Herbal Medicine How to Use Herbs for Your Dog s Health Naturally

She is using a combination of diet, flower essences, herbs, and phytoembryonic therapies addressing dogs mind, body, and spirit. Hey, we're live. I'm Dr. Ruth Roberts, the original holistic pet health coach. With me today is the beautiful, extremely talented, and incredibly wise Rita Hogan, canine herbalist. We're sitting here fangirling together with our books. I don't know. I think you look cuter with yours than mine. But I am so psyched today because, Rita, you have an incredible way to think about supporting dogs, and you came by it so honestly. So for those of you that don't know Rita, she is a clinical canine herbalist with over 20 years of experience specializing in holistic canine herbalism. She's an educator, speaker, writer, formulator, and herbal medicine maker. She is using a combination of diet, flower essences, herbs, and phytoembryonic therapies, addressing dogs mind, body, and spirit. So welcome, Rita. Thank you for taking time from your incredible tour.

Thank you. It's been great.

Yeah, we had a really fun time doing a show for the no we platform where you blew my mind talking about using energetics and food and the success you've had there. What do you not do for dogs? You're just doing amazing stuff.

Thank you, ruth. Appreciate it.

Dr. Ruth, let's jump in. We got a few folks who've got Yvette from Ireland waiting to wish to listen. Here we are now. And Noel Kreider, good to hear from you. Lake Placid. Melissa's joining us. Common Creek. Jen's joining us from Florida. So we've got some internationalness going on. Maggie, love you. Hey. And Maggie had some amazing stuff going on with cibt, which is super cool.

Nice. Yeah.

Holistic dog grooming.

Love cibt.

Yeah. Cool. So let's talk a little bit about herbs. And so we were chatting earlier about one of the things that bugs both of us, and that's when people are like, I'll use this for this without really looking back at what's the whole picture. So what do you think?

Yeah. So in herbalism, that is referred to as the this for that switch. And that is just our conditioning. It's our conditioning on how pharmaceutical medicine works so fast. And we want an answer to all of the side effects of pharmaceutical medicine. And the reason why they have side effects is they're just a hammer. So they force the body into submission. And that's not what herbs are about. So a lot of times there's, in my opinion, in acute medicine. Right. In acute herbal Medicine, you can have that. Oh, what do I use for diarrhea versus flagyl. My answer is almost always BlackBerry leaf. But when we can't. Most of our dogs have chronic conditions and by a lot of the stuff that we do to them unknowingly or forgettingly. And we want to heal those conditions or support those conditions, like spay, neuter. There's one. We take out 25% of our dog's endocrine system and also really confuse their nervous system for a very long time. And we do nothing to support it. So that actually needs to be supported for the rest of their life. And it's just so commonplace, right? So it's so commonplace that we just like, that's what we do. So it must be okay, no, it's not. Hypothyroid, hemangiosarcoma, even osteosarcoma. The chances of your dog getting those cancers goes skyrockets when you spay and neuter. And there's a lot of things that we don't want that. This for that switch. We want to figure out, okay, how do I support my dog and do I continue to support my dog, or is it just something I can do for a short period of time, or is that needed? Or how do I get to the foundational reason why they're ill and make changes? And then you slowly see recovery. You slowly see recovery. A lot of people will go, that must not be a very good herb if it takes that long to heal. No, it is a very good herb. The issue is the body didn't get that way for chronic disease really quickly. It didn't happen overnight, and it's not going to cure overnight. But the more an herb is well indicated, which means that your dog checks out all the boxes, almost all the boxes of that herb. And if it's so well indicated, then things are going to change pretty quickly. So knowing for me, knowing your herbs and what they're for and their indications is better than, hey, what can I give my dog for arthritis right now? That'll work tomorrow. That's just not the expectation that those plants want because they're not going to be able to fill that promise.

You mean you just can't give a pill and they'll be better in two days?

No, every now and then you get lucky. Every now and then that like one of my mentors, I've seen him just, he's been at this for close to 50 years. And sometimes he can. And he's a person herbalist, but he can look at a person and be like, okay, I want you to try this one tincture. Take three drops and bam. That's amazing. However, I did have a case just recently which was like, what? And it was just during one of my live Q&As for my subscription group. Right. And I'm just like, hey, just give your horse Mountain Pine. Give it. I think I said a half a dropper twice a day in the mouth if you can. Or get a plastic syringe and put some water in it and give it to him. And they got back to me a month later and said, because they were going to put this horse down for mobility issues and said he was just running around the pasture nonstop. And I've checked in with that horse and we're still going strong. And that was just one, one remedy. And so every now and then you can get that. But it took a couple weeks to kick in. And you get those pieces of gold up and down. But it's not the norm for sure.

No. And it's very funny too. It's like there's this thing, a guy's name escapes me.

Story of my life.

I'm still jet lagging. Anyway, so there's this concept in Chinese medicine and other systems of medicine that of what makes medicine work is the intention of the healer. Yeah.

Yes.

And so the horse received this intention, like, do this better work or we're putting you down.

Yeah.

So I think that really does make a difference.

Yeah.

I don't know what to do. Help me help you. And so I think there. Maybe that's part of what happens when we get these miraculous recoveries. Bless you. Salute.

Thank you.

But you're welcome. So are there, there's certain herbs that, that we, that I like to keep in terms of Chinese medicine and certain things that I like to keep in a, like an emergency kit. Is there, are there a couple of herbs that you keep routinely or really you're just, it's. You're looking at that individual patient for almost everything.

A lot of people say, oh, what's your top. What's your top thing? My dog's longevity. They asked me this question all the time. And it's not a nerve. It's getting your stress under. No, it's for you to get your stress levels under control. That is the best, number one thing you can do for your dog and for yourself. Because your dog, when you're stressed all the time, you smell like a cortisol. You smell like cortisol and adrenaline. You're giving off this frequency of being Unsafe. And when you're unsafe, your dog feels unsafe. And they're also preoccupied with you smelling like that and wondering what's wrong. And that is stress. And it stretched out, it's. It shuts down so many of their organ systems. So that is my number one piece of advice. Number two, if I had to pick some herbs that I wanted to keep on hand for things in general, they would be BlackBerry leaf nettles, milk thistle, hawthorne plantain, angelica, calendula, and cleavers. Those are the ones, those are the ones right off the bat. Those are the ones that I would keep on hand. And then I use a lot of stem cell therapies as well. So I. Those, I keep those. I have a whole, I keep those on hand. And there's a bunch of them that I absolutely love. And a lot of them are tree medicine like mountain pine and alder and gray alder and different things like that blackthorn. But the regular herbs, I definitely would keep those on hand. And they, they do a lot protecting the liver, the kidneys, they represent the organ groups. And then I would probably keep like bornia, poppy and ashwagandha on hand too, because those herbs alone can deal with so many issues that dogs need. I talked about energetics at the Know We Will thing. And the interesting thing about the. I'm having a 53 year old hot flash right now. The interesting thing about the nervous system is that dogs that tend to lean more cool, they don't need the passion flowers, the skullcaps, the California poppies, for the most part. They don't need their nervous system to be sedated. They are the types of dogs that have a really hard time with your stress and stress in general. Like their ball being stuck under the couch, they're melting down, they're crying. No one's seeing it. It's happening. They're shivering, you know, they're shaking, they're whining, right? They are sending out a distress single signal. And those are the dogs that they need the adaptogens more than a warm dog. Warm dog. There are a few adaptogens that work well, but the cool dogs, they need the ashwagandhas. They, they need the adaptogens that help them deal with stress in general because they take so much of it on. Whereas a warm dog, they take stress on too, for sure. However, their nervous systems need to come down. Like their nervous systems are so high and building so much heat that, you know, and all of those lovely herbs, valerian, skullcap, passionflower, chamomile, all of those herbs are cooling, all of them. And for a reason, like they cool the heat and they bring down the fire. They bring it all the way down and then they can interact with you in a normal way or stop self harming and things like that. So it's. When you look at herbs as individuals, things really start to come out and go, huh, okay. And those herbs can work for cooler dogs when they're offset and warmed up, especially in an acute manner like a thunderstorm or a vet visit. You can give a material dose, which is a large dose of those remedies, or titrate the dose, which is, give it every 15 minutes, like a small dose every 15 minutes. I usually like to add some aconite and rescue remedy into there, but to.

Get them a little more.

Yeah, to calm down. To calm them down. They can, they definitely can work, but long term they're not going to on that side. Having a mix of herbs that do those things, having a mix of warming and cooling herbs are, is a good idea to have on hand. And the ones I mentioned, you can go back and listen to the replay. But the ones I mentioned are the ones that I definitely would have on hand. Those are good ones.

Right on. And one of the things we both like to talk about is if you're feeding Doritos or the equivalent of Doritos in kibble form, how much progress do you feel like people are able to make unless they are willing to commit to supporting the body with higher quality food?

In my book, I have a small feeding section and I do talk about the kibble hierarchy because it was part of my life for 12 years when I boarded dogs kennel free, they would come in with, they'd be feeding science diet. Or I have this guy that fed Mars pet food, right? All the different kinds of Mars pet food and treats, and he got it all free from working there, right? And he had this beautiful brindle like pit mix named Mac. And I love that dog. But Mac came in for his interview for my kennel and Mac was growling and snapping at everyone and I'm like, dude, this dog is not meant for kennel free boarding. However, what do you feed? And he said, I work at Mars pet food. And he got real defensive and he goes, I work it and I get it for free. And I said, what is it? And nothing at Mars is good. But I was like, oh God. I said, if you want to feed one of these kibbles. And back then it was like solid gold in Canada had just come out and and it candidate was a more of a limited ingredient kibble then. And it got bought out and everything. But I gave him a list of I don't know, 2020 upper end kibbles. And I said you could also feed a raw diet if you'd like. You can just bring your cooler. And he just cross died and, and so he put his dog on caniday right? Had to go to a different place to get it, had to pay for it and give him good treats. And I said here's the thing, if you plan on traveling throughout the year, you have to keep your dog on that food. You can't just feed the mars and then feed the canadae when you want to board him. I said you will see a big difference in him. And he felt greasy and gross and just looked terrible and his eyes were dull. And he brought that dog back two months later for another interview. And Mac didn't snap, he didn't bite, he wasn't bouncing off the walls. He was so much calmer, he didn't stink. He, he stunk so bad that I didn't even want to touch him. I was like oh my God. And, and he didn't have that greasy feel. And I boarded that dog for 12 years and I loved him. He was just precious. He was on digestive enzymes. So you can make like if you're gonna feed kibble one, you need to improve your bowl. You need to add as much fresh food as possible. You need to feed digestive enzymes and it needs to be the best kibble that you can find in the limited ingredient kibble and a company that has committed to not using rendered anything. And there are some kibble companies out there that are like that, thank God. And then, and then what you need to do is for me I would work towards feeding as fresh as you can because the nervous system is dependent on it. And if you have to feed kibble, you want to support the nervous system, right? You want to support the nervous system as much as you can and you want to support the nervous system no matter what you're feeding. Then work towards feeding as fresh as possible. Work towards learning more about making your own food. Work towards using companies like Green Juju or goodness Gracious or different companies that you can buy things that add to the kibble. Green juju makes great add ons that you can add in solutions. Pet food makes great add ons that you can add in. But sometimes, you know, raw diets are a lot cheaper than you think they are. So yeah, that is my advice. On that Ruth, for sure. I don't know where you went but I'm going to look at the comments. I'm going to oh and I know that there is a vet here from Ireland. I just want to let you know that I will be in Ireland in October so my book tour is going there. My pugs recently had an htma by parsley Pet olive leaf extract was recommended for chronic infections, inflammation for tick borne diseases. I didn't find it in your store. Will the phytoembryonic work the same? Yeah, the phytoembryonic will work very well for that I'll be carrying some dried herbs in my store. I got your back Ruth.

Thank you very much.

You're pro welcome. I'm just moving on to the next question. Yeah, the olive leaf Olive leaf vital will work for your dog. When you make your order just put in there that you need how much your dog weighs and I can tell you how much to use. But you can also use regular olive leaf. Just make sure that when you're using olive leaf powder that you're putting it in food because it can make your dog vomit, it can cause vomiting and I have actually been subject to that love leaf side effect. Yeah it you just it needs to be eaten with food. But yes, that is a good, it is a good remedy for chronic infections. If you're going to give it a long time. It's it is cool, it is warming and so if your dog is more warm, if they don't do well with heat your little pug then I would definitely give it something that's going to cool it down. So like maybe some echinacea phytoembryonic. It's also called purple coneflower. That will like meet the energetic. It'll balance that out and it's also good for chronic infections. The phytoembryonic you can give long term.

So let me ask you about that because one of the things I don't like so much about olive leave is that it also because it's antimicrobial, it has an impact on the microbiome. So does the phytoembryonic version help avoid some of those effects?

Yes, it does. But I don't find olive leaf too incriminating on the microbiome. I find it to be more intelligent.

Good.

But it's olive leaf is not one of those herbs that you need to just put your dog on and leave on. Now I have to tell you that olive leaf is so fantastic for your leakia that like Tennessee, I had. That's when I had 10 dogs. Oh, God. Yeah. And they all had urlekia. All of them from my property in Tennessee. They all. I. I threw my hands up and went, okay, I can't do it. I can't. I didn't do the flea and tick meds at all. They all had eur leakia and I cured them all with olive leaf. So what I would do is in the summer, as soon as the ticks came out, I'd put them on olive leaf and then I'd leave them on olive leaf. And then as soon as the ticks went away, they'd go off of olive leaf. And all my dogs lived till at least they were like 16, 17. But I also supported their microbiomes and things like that. But I haven't seen like huge depletion in that with olive leaf. Now, not the same for goldenseal.

Yes.

Goldenseal will take away a lot of the commensal bacteria. It is a powerful antibiotic and antimicrobial. So goldenseal I don't use on the inside very much at all. A very short period of time. And I treat it like an antibiotic. I give probiotics. I do. I do the flip flop with that because I want it to work however it is. It's like oregano infused oil or. Oregano is not to be. It's more of your stronger herb. Right, right. It's not to be messed with. People love, oh, oregano. But you need to be mindful of that because you are destroying commensal good bacteria.

Right on. Cool. I think there's a. On the human side, there's a. The reason I said that is there's an olive leaf extract product that is just wicked. But maybe that has to do with the process it was made.

It's probably standardized and that. Yeah, it's probably standardized. Now. Standardized herbs are a completely different story. And I deal with them in my book, the Herbal Dot. They are different. They. Standardized herbs will give you side effects. People. People are like. With olive leaf specifically, Ruth, people say, oh, you want to make sure that's like standardized to like 25% oleprin, oligluprin, or however you're pronouncing that.

That's.

Yeah, that is not necessarily so. I actually use olive leaf extract that gets average readings for about 12 to 15% and which is normal for an. For a plant. A leaf. It's going to. It's going to fluctuate. But those are the. I'm not going to use a 25% standardized olive leaf extract for long term use. That's where you go wrong. Once you start standardizing milk thistle is the same. Milk thistle should not be given long term when it's standardized. But milk thistle seed, right. Organic milk thistle seed can be used long term with zero side effects. Same with turmeric. Curcumin causes anemia. When you use curcumin, which a lot of people do, they want more is better. Curcumin can cause your body to be anemic where turmeric never does. Never does.

There we go trying to muck around with mother Nature again every now and then.

We need those things. It's fine. You can't treat them like the plant that they came from is what I'm saying.

So really that's where they command the respect. Similar to a pharmaceutical.

Absolutely.

When we need it. But we need to use it in an informed manner.

Absolutely. Yes. We need to use it in an informed manner. And I feel the same about essential oils. I digress. And that's another conversation.

That's a whole nother conversation.

Yeah.

So Laurie, you got your question answered? Whole ground milk thistle?

Yes, it is. Now here's the thing about that. Laurie Laura or Laura Laurie. Larry, if the ALT levels are not going down on your milk thistle, then you need to switch to something besides milk thistle. It's not working. Just like, you know that drug Denimarin. Is that how you pronounce it?

That's it. That's given for years on end with absolutely doing nothing to change.

If that does not. Yeah. If that doesn't change those enzymes within three months of the usage, it's not working. It's not going to work at all. It's not going to work. Yeah, that's what I have to say. Is there another herb for chronic pancreatitis that supports the liver? Yes, it's black currant. Phytoembryonic therapy is really good for that. Laura, you can find it in my store if you're in the United States. If not, email me. I'll tell you where to get it outside of the United States. I just wanted to answer.

What I was going to say is that if that's been going on for a year, then that's where you really need to dig in and take a different approach and drill down to what's underlying all of that.

Yeah, yeah. Because as enzymes are worker bees in the liver. Right. The liver is working too hard. And so why is the liver working too hard? That's another thing. Like why Is the liver working too hard? A lot of people think, oh, I got my dog's enzymes down. I'm going to go off this herb that helped to get it down, and they're going to be fine. If we were to test those enzymes every single day for a year, you would see them do this. You would see them do this. And the question is, why are those worker bees working so hard? And Ruth is exactly right. We need to figure out what's going on with the liver. It could be food. It could a lot of times. It can be water, it can be plastics. It can be something you're burning in the house. It can be obviously specific things in the food. And you could be feeding an energetically inappropriate diet, which is congesting the liver and making everything hard on the whole system. It can be all of those things. And you're right, Ruth. We have to figure out why. But if the herb isn't working, it's the wrong herb or the wrong dosage. So I always try a higher dosage first for about a month retest. If they haven't come down at all, they're not going to come down.

Agreed. Agreed. And I would say, yeah, I think three months is very generous in terms of time for me. A lot of times. Yeah, 30 days, no change.

No, I meant one month, not three months.

Okay. Yeah, sorry.

Maybe, yeah, you might be getting a lag or something, but yeah, increase the dosage for a month. If it doesn't come down, change the herb. Change it, because it's not going to work.

Right on.

Yeah.

Cool. All right. Penny's asking about this article about chaga pace and mast cell tumors way back in the day. Or is that something you're still.

Oh, no, this is a. Yeah. Hi, Penny. I'm going to be at Penny store for my book tour in June. I can't wait. I can't wait for that. The chaga. The chaga paste for mast cell tumors. Okay. That's another thing. It works awesome for the dogs that it's going to work for. I just had a dog that it totally worked for. Got rid of the mast cell tumors on the legs. But you still have to deal with why the dog is getting mast cell tumors in the first place. There's lots of really good herbs for that. One of my favorite herbs is a Chinese herb called sunleng. Yeah, Butterbur. It is absolutely fabulous herb for mast cell tumor. It's neutral, so it works for almost every dog that I've ever used it for. It's wonderful for Mast cell tumor protocols. I'm actually doing cancer webinars right now. And next month, Cancer intensive is on mast cell cancer. But yeah, Chaga Chaga is cooling. And it works for a lot of warm dogs that get mast cell tumor. And more warm dogs than cool dogs get mast cell tumors. But it works really well for mast cell internally and externally. And anytime you have a tumor, I really like to treat it internally and externally, especially if it's irritating your dog. But the Chaga paste is awesome. I did. Her question flashed up there and then it went away. I don't really know. Oh, there it is. Are there any further recommendations for the particular treatment? Is this useful for both benign and cancerous tumors? Yes, it is. You make it into a paste. Just Chaga powder. You can get that from, like, real mushrooms, Chaga powder, water, Chaga powder, water, or any type of freshly ground Chaga. So if you have a hunk of Chaga, you can shave some off. I put. I just use Chaga with a. Or I'll stick some in a coffee grinder if it's super hard. But you just add water till you get it thick and pack it on the tumor. And I wrap it while it's doing its thing. I might let. And I just tell people, just sit with your dog, you know, watch. Go binge some Netflix if you want. If they can't be trusted. Right. And. Or put a cone on their head if they can't. If they can't be trusted and just let that work. It should you. The tumor should start shrinking within a month, if not a lot sooner.

Cool. And what was the other herb you said?

Sun Linh Sang Leng S A N L E N G. I'm sure I'm not pronouncing it right, but that's what it is. Yeah, it's a really great herb. That. That article that I wrote for Dogs Naturally is. Oh, no, I don't know if that was the article that I wrote for Dogs Naturally. On that one. I might have written two, but I wrote it. Just. All you have to do is Google mast cell tumors, Rita Hogan, Dogs Naturally magazine, and it'll pop up. It's still a very relevant article and there's some great advice from Josie. Dr. Bug on that too.

Cool. Sweet. Yeah, this is really cool. WV is planning to create a sensory garden for her shelties. Have you done anything like that?

I don't know what a sensory garden is.

I think it's just literally, you choose plants that.

Oh, so an herbal garden.

The dog engage by Sniffing.

Okay, so aromatic plants.

Yeah.

I would call that an aroma garden. So yes, an aroma garden. And what was the question? It disappeared again.

If they're. Sorry, I'm going, well, not that one, this one.

Okay. One suggestion is to plant herbs that dogs can sniff and help with their well being. Are there any herbs you suggest? Any of the, like mints, Anything that gives a. You can take. You can look at essential oils. Right. And those plants are aromatic, otherwise they don't produce enough essential oil to use an essential oil. Right. They like lemon balm. Doesn't produce a lot, but it does have a nice scent, the apple mint. But you have to. So you have to put these things in containers. Okay.

So they can take over the universe.

Yes, they will take over the apple mint, will. Apple mint smells so amazing. That will take over the universe. Even things like chive. I'm just thinking lavender is lovely. Right. There's a lot of things that you can't grow that are very aromatic. But yeah, look into the mint family. There's so many different ones out there. I'm just thinking about other. The sensory gardens are good. It's fine. A lot I would see, I would intermix that with herbs that they could self select for themselves, like plantain and violet and chamomile. German chamomile. Not Roman chamomile. German chamomile. I actually. Where. Where is it? I will look before we leave. Remind me, remind me to give you a PDF. Can I give you a PDF on here, Ruth?

You can, yeah. You can drop it into the private chat.

I have a little garden PDF.

Amazing. Because that's what Juliet Berkeley Levy used to do too. Right.

Yeah.

I've got a little garden planner.

Yeah, yeah. And just let them. Let them do it. Yeah. I've got all of the herbs that are really great for animals in here. And oregano, of course. It's in the mint family. Rosemary, it's in the mint family. So like a lot of these ones that do produce essential oil that we use essential oils of are in that type of family for dogs. I'm gonna, I'm gonna drop this in. I'm gonna. Let me. Let me answer another question. Right on.

Let's see. Tony's asking about her dog with seizures. That's on Keppran. Phenobarbital. Would rather give him a natural remedy. And that's part of what we were talking about is this is not a. Choose this for that. Yeah. Go to the whole route.

Yeah. 1. Sometimes it's hard to find the Root of a seizure dog. But one, I would try to work with someone to make a comprehensive program to first of all deal with your dog energetically. Number two, look at their water, look at their environment, look at their diet. Do we have improvement if we improve those things? Phenobarb, maybe they could be on Keppra and not Phenobarb, but agreed. Kepper is a little more gentle. I'm not a pharmacist and I'm not a vet.

As a veterinarian, that would tell you that wholeheartedly. Second that.

Yeah. But they may not be. But the goal would be is to purchase my book. I don't deal with seizures per se. I do tell you because seizures aren't like a casual thing. Right. But I will tell you that if you work on the nervous system and the brain and the gut brain. Right. A lot of dogs will have seizures after vaccination. A lot of dogs will have seizures after antibiotic use. A lot of dogs will have seizures because we're a stressed out mess. A lot of dogs will have seizures because their gut brain is not working correctly or firing on all cylinders. It's misfiring. A lot of dogs can have seizures after they're put on SSI boosters, serotonin boosters like Prozac. Because what those types of drugs do is they remove the myelithin sheath of the neurons in the brain. And that's not a good idea. I don't like that.

I call that Ms. In humans.

Yes. So, yeah, there's lots of reasons why MCT oil, that's something benign that you can add to your dog's diet. The goal is to have less and less seizures. Right. If your dog's having seizures now and you start adding natural things to your dog's regimen for seizures, the goal is to have less and less seizures. I recently made a herbal support, herbal support protocol for seizures for a client and they went off. It's basically four month protocol. They went off the protocol and their dog had a seizure within two weeks. That dog's not ready to come off that protocol. But that protocol is working. Okay. It's working with no drugs. Now, that protocol most likely wouldn't work for your dog because your dog's an individual. So seizures are so individual, in my opinion. So you just want to find someone, work with them, start adding normal things. There you go. Zion started having seizures at four months after. So I can tell you that is a liver and nervous system, lymphatic system problem. Yeah. Also need to support the Spleen. There. A lot of dogs that are on those drugs lose their spleen later on in life. So just start supporting the spleen. But that is definitely a nervous system, lymphatic and liver issue. And that can be turned around.

Yes. And this is a. It's just. This is a process of detoxification. Plus this. Plus. Yeah.

Right on. Yeah. I would purchase my book and go to page 137 and work through that and read the everything is connected section and you will find your dog in those pages.

Right on. So cool. So Kayla's got another question. Any herbs fall on ice? Yeah. Any herbs for pain? Basically. So this would be more like an acute pain situation.

Okay. One, I would get an X ray to make sure that you know what's going on there. Because it is a great Dane. It's like having a small horse. Right. And their legs are super important to them. Had a recent fall on the ice a couple weeks ago. And now not bearing weight and lost muscle. Using CBD and mushrooms. Okay. One thing again, get to a vet, get an X ray so you know what you're dealing with. That or does ultrasound work on bones?

No, it can be useful for ligament issues if the ultrasonographer knows what they're doing. Oh, two to three weeks, it's not getting better on its own. You do need to get help. What's going on?

And then I will tell you. Here's the thing. If there is an issue with that bone, with the ligament, with the muscles, contact anacellbiotech.com a n I c e l l biotech.com the owner's name is Brandon. And tell them Ruth and Rita sent you. And that is a single injection, no side effects, super rapid healing and will save the leg. Now, if it's nothing big, if it's nothing, if there's not an issue, and it's not expensive either compared to like surgery and things like that. But if it's not anything big, then what I would do is I would go to my store, hit the. Go to the shop, hit the custom formula and just tell me who you are and I will make you a mixture of Solomon's seal, mountain pine and Virginia creeper. And it will heal the tendon and ligament and get you your dog back going fine. But it'll take about six to eight weeks. But if it's something major, get a hold of anisol because that will heal it up right quick.

And this is amniotic stem cell.

Yes.

And this actually hi o had this a good friend of mine Joyce Girardi does this, injecting it into acupoint, and it worked really beautifully until she really. Into a gas window again. Yeah.

Yes. It's great company.

Yeah, it is good company. And maybe something I need to revisit on my own. But she had also intravenous therapy, and that was crazy good. And Tony, Wow. So hard. Sorry to hear this. All right, Patty. Her dog was recently diagnosed with diabetes. Overly warm. What herbs.

Oh, here's the thing about herb diabetes and herbalists. I don't mention a thing. I don't say anything. But I can tell you. Dr. Ruth can tell you because she's a vet. But number two, if it was my dog, mushrooms are excellent for bringing down blood sugar. But why is the blood sugar. Why was she recently diagnosed with diabetes? Definitely can probably be reversible. I can't speak to it as an herbalist or I can land myself in prison, which I don't personally want to go to. But I would definitely use my book to figure or my energetics course to figure out your dog's energetics, because that could play a huge role in it. And then on to you, Ruth.

And then you need to really work on the diet. So just like us, if dogs are eating. So I say Doritos again, essentially the food equivalent, the pet food equivalent of Doritos, which means highly processed or ultra processed corn, basically, and. Or other starchy carbs. That's a great way to unknowingly set your dog up for diabetes. And so going to a whole food diet, I teach cooked food. So the original Crockpet diet, you can make it with protein, healthy vegetables, healthy fats, and often this is sufficient without actually having to go full on ketosis to regulate the diabetes and in many cases bring it back into remission so that we can get some of these guys off of insulin. So, and especially since it's been recent, you have the best opportunity to make this work now.

Yeah. And the lymphatic system is really important with that. And my brother had diabetes and he moved in with me and he no longer has diabetes. And I would just look at his food every day and say, not enough green. There's not enough green. There's not enough green and there's not enough lean. Just there. Just. Yeah, the high starchy carbs, the sweet potatoes, the. The white rice and all of those things that we want to save money with. It can lead not every dog, but can lead a lot of dogs to the inability to process all that sugar. And how much movement is your dog Getting that's. Yeah, we want to move. Because when they're just eating those foods and they're eating the sweet potatoes and they're eating the rice and they're sitting on the couch looking beautiful, that's where things go really wrong. Because their heart rate isn't getting up there. Even like when dogs play with each other real hard, their heart rate gets up and then that helps with insulin sensitivity. And so.

Yeah, exactly. Burn the glycogen out of the muscles so that the body needs to replace it muscles.

And Ruth, I have to say a lot of times what hap. What is good for people is when, you know, you have a personal experience with that. And I will tell you right now, I'm not a skinny girl, right? By no means I'm not a skinny girl. Never been a skinny girl. And one of the things that I have to be mindful of is weightlifting. Like when I lift weights, my blood sugar normalizes when I. And when I got more green and lean. But if I know I'm gonna go out and have Mexican food, right. I know that day I go to the gym and I lift weights for 45 minutes and then I do some little bit of interval training for literally five to ten minutes. That's it. And my blood sugar is awesome compared to if I wasn't going to do that. Gets less than 15 minutes of exercise a day. Okay, that's setting up our. We have to right after we're done here having breakfast and going for a walk.

Right on.

Whether I have a full plate or not.

Right on.

Got to do it.

Exactly. And so Patty's got a dog that's got some weird stuff. But Patty looking at this ingredient list, home cooked organic grass fed beef, green low carb veggies, and she went into high ketosis and high blood sugar. I don't see fat listed here, which is weird. And so the weird thing that people don't realize, like a lot of the raw food advocates will say, oh yeah, high protein. If your dog has had enough protein for its muscle needs, guess what? Protein gets converted to carbohydrate. And so on a high protein diet you can actually never. And I've seen raw fed dogs become diabetic, so that's. It is confusing. And so Patty, this is what I'm going to tell you is find somebody to work with you because you've got some, your dog has got some weird stuff going on, some very profound insulin sensitivity. Then this is where you're going to have to really work through the diet. So I'm going to drop this link in here for the coaches again. They can help get you started in the right direction. But this. You've got some strange things going on. This is what we were talking about. The cut and paste things we offer aren't working for Patty and she's already tried a lot of things. So this is where you need a guide.

Yeah, for sure.

Right on.

All right.

I think. Have we worn you out, Rita?

No, I'm fine. Whatever you want to do.

Cool. So I think we've gotten pretty much all of the questions Robin did ask, though, about speaking a bit more to.

Energetics, and I have to tell you, I don't think we have time for that. But if you purchase my book, chapter three is all about energetics. It will teach you about energetics. It'll give you all the information you need to start out with energetics and why it's important. So it'll be the best $25 that you've ever spent ever spent.

Right on so ever, ever. I'm going to drop a link here about the book tour events so folks can see where you're going to be next and you've got more events you're adding all of the time. And then I'm also going to drop your website. Go, please.

Thank you. Oh, no, I was just saying there's more events being added all the time. I'm going to be in Ireland, England, Spain for Internet. Canada is coming soon. It's at the end of the month here in British Columbia. I don't know if I'll make it to other places in Canada, but. Yeah, and there are some Michigan dates that are going to be added. And, oh, Montana in the beginning of April.

Sweet.

Oh, Kansas City.

Kansas City in September. Anybody else? Anybody here out from the Midwest? We're going to give the Midwest some love. We have all these events on either coast for. For pet parents, but it's time to give the Midwest a little love. Arizona.

Oh, I'm going to Arizona, but I'm excited to go to Kansas City with you, Ruth.

That's going to be a ball. Yeah, we're looking forward to it. So that will be September 18th and 19th, and we're working on a location. Sorry, 19th and 20th. No, that's scratched that.

You sure is still not gone.

It's the 12th and 13th. I know.

Oh, my God.

No, it's the 12th and 13th. We're working on a location, but it's going to be super cool because the first day is going to be for continuing education. For the International Holistic Pet Health Coach Association. And then the second day is going to be an event for all of the pet parents out there. Going to be super, super cool. Yeah. So we're super excited. And you all check out that link I just put in of locations where the beautiful and amazing Rita is going to be book tour events. And keep watching that for more to be added.

Is there a way. Can I, I can add that PDF, Ruth?

Yeah, I think. Can you drop it in the chat and if not.

Oh, let me join chat.

Yep. And then there's a private chat. You may be able to upload a link or a PDF and if not, you can drop it via email to that. Cool.

Okay, hold on. I'm just doing it here.

Right on.

Okay, now I'm okay. Can I drop. Let me see if I can drop it in the chat. Otherwise I'll just email it to you. Yeah.

All right, cool. And we'll get that attached to the comments. If nothing else, IO had to come say hi.

Hi. IO.

Yeah, it may just be for chat. Cherry Chat.

No, it won't. Let me. I'll just send it to you.

Okay, cool. I'll drop that in the comments.

I'll just send it to you right.

Now once we sign off. Super. All right, until next week. We'll see you guys. Awesome. And have fun and talk soon.

Take care. Bye. Bye.

Thanks, everybody.