Jason M. Lemkin argues Claude 3.5, 3.7, and 4 were the product of the year, enabling developer tools like Replit, Cursor, and Gamma to actually work. The conversation touches on whether Anthropic CEO Dario deserves credit given his public warnings about AI risks.
You know what the product of the year is? The product of the year is Claude 35 or 3 7. Without this we have no vibe coding. Without this we have no lovable. No vacations degrees, no repl it, no cursor that really works. No gamma. None of these products, many of which existed for years, did not work until we could debate when it was. They worked with Claude 35 at the end of last year, but they didn't real, they weren't great until three seven and then four this year. And four changed our lives. And you may not use it. You may use the outputs, you may use Agent Force. You know, it's not all that. You may use cursor, which is 90, still 90% powered by anthropic. You may use Gamma or replit, or again lovable for Harry. None of these products we use. This changed the way we deliver AI inside of products. It's not just coders, it changed everything else. So do I give Dario credit as CEO? I don't know. I mean, I don't love all those warnings about how 90% of the world's going to be unemployed and say several weeks. But he delivered, right? So I think you got without question, it is the software of the year. Do you give the CEO credit when for the product of the year? Maybe not. I'm going to anyway though. Rory, damn.
Because you know, I'm. God, I hate agreeing with Jason, but I'll just take a while to get there. Because first of all, he didn't answer the original question. The whole product of the year focus on the founder of the year. Anyway, I mean, look, it's a. I mean one. I'm going to start with Harry. I'm going to be grumpy today because I hate these events. I hate these kind of wrap up things. I think they're bullshit. So I will be grumpy the whole time. And I make no bones about that. Also doing two of them in the.
One week when we were waiting for you. And I'm like Rory. He goes, fuck off.
It's a second. So let's talk about that, you know, found of the problem. One thing about that, you know the Ballon d', or, where they pick the best football player, right? As we call it our soccer, as they do here in America, right? And you know, it's kind of one of those things whereby, you know, every year it's kind of try and come up with someone else, but we all know it's messy, you know, it's a 10 or 15 year period where it's just silly. Or maybe it's Ronaldo. So I feel, you know, if you really. When we come to pick founder of the decade, Founder of the blah, it's gonna be Elon. But. So let's just leave that to one side, right? And just do. I'll do this year, right? And then, as it were, exclude him from the year, because otherwise it gets boring. I do actually come out exactly the same place Jason did. Dario. And I do think it's not just product of the year, but also what I like. I find the stuff, unemployment to be bizarre. And I think he's wrong. And I'll come back to that. But that's the CEO as pontificator.
