Two founders argue that the drive to build something great doesn't mean working yourself into the ground. One shares how he schedules time with his kids and limits work hours to stay sharp; the other warns that 100% immersion makes you irrational and leads to bad decisions.
There's no bat like you because you're going to be miserable or bored or you're not building, you know, I don't think Elon doesn't look too happy to me.
There are some people, I think all the good
founders are crazy. Have
unique choice sets.
That was well done.
I think in whatever way you enjoy what it is that you do and you choose to be intentional with your own time. Right? I spend a ton of time with my kids because it's super fun and it's super different and they're awesome little human beings and I'm trying to grow them into awesome big human beings, right? And help them on. On whatever journey they're on. That is enjoyment. I think it makes me a better CEO to do that. I don't spend 60 hours a week with my kids, you know what I mean? They're sleeping and this and that and other things, but I don't spend 100 hours a week at work right now. When we were younger, we did, and that's the evolution. But you have to learn to do that. I think if you spend 100% of your time at work, you make worse decisions. Right. But you have to do the job right. And the balance is really tricky. The intentional time management is really tricky. Do I spend as much time with my mates as I used to? No. Right. We catch up once a quarter. We do this and that. So there is things you got to trade off. All I'm saying is if you don't do any of that outside work because you're like, this era, I've got to knuckle down and do 100% of this is right now. I don't think that's sustainable. Maybe that's just not for me.
It's not. Every time I give that speech tomorrow, this era I've got to do, and she just looks at me and says, stop. You're just going to go insane and then you're going to become irrational and then you're going to make bad decisions. So we're going for a hike for the next hour and a half and I just say, okay, Matt, I'm going. And Harry's moving into the kill to tell us we're too old and we're going to get rolled over by him.
