Key to Scaling a Company: Uncover Top Talent and Act Fast with @ZoomInformation 's CEO

So the advice here is what I should have done in those moments was go have informational interviews with great product development heads, great engineering heads, great marketing heads and try to compare the talent that I was meeting through those interviews to the talent that I had in house and then acted faster. And so you can convince yourself I don't really understand engineering and they told me it's hard. So it's probably really hard and you have a voice in your head that tells you like why would that be difficult? I don't understand why that's complicated and you should listen to that voice and go do these informational interviews to validate it and then move fast on talent in the early stages as fast as you can where you find those. It's hard to hire a great one if you've never met a great one. Yep, bootstrapping to 30 million getting to a billion in ARR. But number one, not being honest about your talent, pretty much impossible, right? Yeah.