051 Medical Tourism, Lyme Disease treatment WIth Merry Lynch

So now what happens in bioresonance is that through magnets, you, you're laying on a type of a magnet and you're holding these rods in your hand, these brass rods in there in your hand, and they're scanning your body for the cells, the bad cells.

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Hello!

We are so happy to be with you guys today and are so excited about the new year!

Yeah!

We made it through Christmas! Yeah, well, not just Christmas, holidays. And for us, we have a couple of birthdays right in between all that, and it's hectic. It's very hectic. Not to mention the financial strain that happens with all that. It's just— yeah, we were just really excited to get back to the— get back to work, get back on the mic. We have so many exciting authors and people we're speaking to this year. We have some Interviews lined up for later in the month. Just gonna be awesome. I know you guys are gonna enjoy them, and we're excited where LionVoice is going because we're on to bigger and better things. We have some really cool projects that I know you guys are gonna be benefited from, and we're excited to bring them to you. But anyway, what else is going on today, Sarah? We're having an interview today with Mary L.

Yeah, I met Mary Lynch on Facebook several months ago. We've spoken spoken several times, and I'm really excited for you guys to hear her experience because it's affordable care. And she actually found a bioresonance clinic out in Poland, and all the links and stuff are on the show notes.

Yeah, this has been really interesting for us because we've known that the care here in the United States is good, but it can be really expensive. And so just finances involved, what would it be like to go outside of the country to get treatment.

Yeah, and we've been having this discussion for 4 years. I mean, we're here in Woodland Park right now because we're—

Colorado.

Yeah, Woodland Park, Colorado. We are going through 3 or 4 years of training through Charis Bible College, and when we get done with that, my ultimate goal is to open a long-term recovery center similar to the sanatoriums in the 1800s that were designed for people who were sick for years and years and years. And we get contacted so much. We've been looking into Panama, South America. We've been looking into different places that affordable care could be provided and set up some type of a community or a complex where not only one person in the family could afford treatment, but two or three. Because that's what it comes down to. Like, yeah, we know so many people who have invested, whether they got disability and back pay or different things, and they've invested $50,000 to $100,000 to get one person healthy.

Yeah.

And yet they still have multiple people. And so this clinic—

so many families that, that we've been in contact with where it's the mom and then the kids are all showing signs. And that's— oh yeah, I mean, for us, we spent over half a million dollars keeping you alive, and now we're looking at two more kids that have been diagnosed with Lyme. This is a big issue for a lot of people. So I think this episode is great. She talks about a clinic. All the links to this clinic and, and what she's talking about. We'll put those in the show notes. You feel free to look them up, and you can also find those at Line Voice, and you go over to the podcast tab, drop through there, and you should be able to find episode 51 is what you're on. Can you believe we're on episode 51, babe? That's awesome.

Yeah, wow. I had been over 2 years, been 3 years because we took a year off.

That's right. Well, we're still alive and kicking and glad to be doing so.

Oh yeah, it's so rewarding. Like, this has been incredible. We really were like so happy for Christmas to be over and the kids to go back to school because there's so many different projects that we have going on. And I've talked about it briefly, but Lori Dennis and I have spent the last several months recording a series that we're doing called Let There Be Light.

Release date to be announced.

Yeah, it'll probably be ready in May. That's our goal.

And it's going to be awesome.

Yeah, it's 10.

So great.

10 hours of a psychotherapist talk therapy of someone who understands the complexities and longevities. And I just think Lori Dennis is a jewel. She's just a wealth of information.

It's so— I mean, because I've been listening to it because I do the production side, so I do a lot of their editing, and I've been listening to it. You and her sat down and did this together. I wasn't part of the conversation, right? But it was so affirming. The conversation back and forth between the two of you is so affirming. And it just gives you power in a place where it's been robbed. So I know this series is going to be huge for those that listen to it. So keep in touch with Lime Voice and more announcements on that as it comes through.

And we have some incredible speakers lined up, you guys. We have authors, we have physicians, and we've really the last few months been focusing on people's stories and the social-emotional side of things. But statistically, what we have found with the data that we've collected from you all is that people are really looking for how do I get better? And the emotional part is so huge. I just finished reading Yolanda Hadid's book. Believe me, Yolanda Foster, the housewife. And she—

Real Housewives of New York, right?

No, it's Beverly Hills or something.

Yeah, she's a real housewife.

A real housewife. Yeah. And her story, it is, it's, it's a very brave book. Steven Groeder sent it to me for Christmas. We've interviewed him and Heather a couple of times in past episodes. And she is, she's very brave. She, it's well documented. It's the exact same story that everyone has. She has more resources, but the losses are the same.

The implications, the longevity, but not at the same time, because even with all the resources that she had, she still had to fight the same battle.

Oh my gosh. Yeah, she tells these stories of being in foreign countries and being like trying not to bleed out in the middle of the night and she's alone or maybe has one person with her. And I just spent so many— I wasn't in a foreign country most of the time, but I had so many experiences like that when I was alone and I should not have been, right? I was alone in an office. It goes on to so many levels. And yet we also have a lot of speaking gigs lined up for this year. And so just contacts that we've been— every time I go to a speaking gig, I make a contact with someone. And so we have a lot of those interviews lined up that I'm just really excited to bring you all.

Yeah. And if you guys are interested in having either Sarah and I speak at your engagement, please drop us a line at, I guess, my email, aaronsanchez@gmail.com. And then you can find our info on our Facebook page, which is Lime Voice. @facebook. And then we also have limenvoice.com, which is our website, and you can contact us through that as well. See, we got some shoutouts today.

Yeah, we wanted to give a shoutout to Ashley and Eddie.

Yes.

And they are newish listeners. And I'm going to read you just a little portion. She sent us a letter.

But one of the cool things about doing a podcast is you really get to have your wife bump your mic, and then you also have— you, you also get to meet some really cool people. And Eddie and Ashley are some jewels. They are some fighting spirits. They are truly Lyme warriors. I don't believe Eddie has Lyme, but he's her caretaker, and as I can testify, that is a job all in itself.

Oh yeah.

And I mean, the fighting that she has had to do, 'cause we've been watching her on Instagram and keeping in touch that way, and the fighting that this girl is doing every day just to get better is amazing. It's absolutely amazing. I mean, it's an amazing story. Even their community came behind them and actually raised support. Am I getting this right?

Yeah, so yeah, let me read just the beginning of her letter that she sent. She says, "Dearest Aaron and Sarah, I've been listening to your podcast since July of this year as my health began declining more and more." There were no answers for me, nowhere to turn. I turned to your podcast, my first podcast really, and found hope to fight, heal, and live.

Want me to finish?

She goes on and she says much— I don't know why I'm crying.

Well, I think the reason you're getting emotional is because this is what she sent us here is why we're doing this. We can see actual effect in people's life. And it's so touching to just have the opportunity to touch people and to help them fight through this. And if what we can do through our words and through this podcast is doing that, that is huge because we can't be physically next to her holding her hand, but on the air we can be next to them and hold, in a sense, hold them up, not only her but Eddie as well. And and just really—

Yeah. And I mean, we do, we do hear a lot of that. Like, people aren't alone, you know? And Eddie said that. He's like, listening to Aaron helps me feel not alone.

Right.

And that's huge.

Yeah. That's why we did it.

Yeah.

So you guys are awesome and keep it up. Keep fighting. I'm in awe. I thought we had a hard story. And then you hear, you see other people's stories and Unfortunately, we're shoulder and shoulder with a lot of good people and their struggles are just the same. So if you feel alone, please don't. There's a lot of us. I know Sarah and I sitting here right now, we are with you and we want you to get better and it will happen. Keeping positive, waking up every day and facing the day. That's what we put in the beginning of this podcast because that is so important to have just that attitude that I'm going to face the day, that is super hard to do. And if we can help be part of that, wow, that's awesome.

Yeah. So shout out to Ashley and Eddie. Super happy to know you guys. And we have, we've met so many incredible people. And Ashley's had a really hard time. She has a lot of seizures. And as she's going through treatment, she's had to stop treatment to deal with her seizures. And a lot of people give up and she's had some horrible incidences. And we know so many people who, if they don't treat, they can kind of survive and exist. But then when you do really start proactively treating, that's scary because then you're triggering seizures and all these things. But not dealing with it doesn't get you anywhere either. So it's this really hard balance. And I think sometimes for me, I want to give people so many more answers. And yet what I have to constantly remind myself is, Obviously, we're all different and there aren't clear-cut answers, but there are principles. There's healing principles. And your geography may be different, your resources may be different, but if you listen through these podcasts, there is a depth of information and wisdom that is changing people's lives. That's huge.

Yeah. What else do we have?

I wanted to let you guys know some of our statistics as we roll into 2018. Sum up, it's interesting because of the first 2 years we never had any listeners in South America. And in 2017, we started getting listeners in South America.

Japan too.

Yeah.

Japan is our 3rd most downloaded country.

Yeah.

Welcome all Japanese listeners.

Yeah. And I know in Japan they're actually a little bit proactive about Lyme. So it's good to hear you can. Yes, it's a little daunting sometimes when you go and you see these other countries that get it and America still doesn't quite get it. You know, the reality of Lyme disease and how important it is to wear your bug spray, to, to be vigilant and all those things.

So yeah, so United States is definitely our leading download. Second is Canada. Shout out to all you Canadians. Third is Japan. Fourth is Australia. Fifth is United Kingdom, and then Korea, Sweden, Germany, Switzerland, and Ireland.

Yeah, 36 countries altogether. Awesome. It's awesome that we're there. It's too bad that the people need it in 36 different countries.

But well, and you know, even the Asian countries, a lot of the speakers and physicians that I'm in contact with, they travel over there all the time to speak. Because it is a big issue. And it just goes to show, this is a global epidemic. This is not just in our backyard. This is not going away. This is something we're going to be dealing with for decades.

Yeah. Anyway, I'm so glad you guys are here to listen to this episode, and I know it'll be interesting. And there's some really good content on there too, of just hearing Mary's story of her fight. And those are always so encouraging to me, to hear other people's fight and just what the road that they went on is not only affirming, but it's educating as well.

So, oh, totally. And, and it's affordable. And Mary goes on to say that her 3 months of treatment in Poland, including housing, was around $6,000, which is incredible. So enjoy the show. No, I know you went over to do some filming. And so are those film projects that you're working on just to promote, or what's the— what are you doing for them or with them?

No, I am doing it because I want to show people that there are alternatives and that the man in the white coat is not going to make you better. And you need to learn, you need to be willing to step outside and think about other health modalities. In order to be able to live as normal a life as you can with Lyme disease because you're— it's not going away. How can you then live a normal life? Because I've been there. I've been where I couldn't read. I couldn't understand how rice was going to get cooked. I've been staring at the pot of water thinking, I don't know what to do with this. So I know, I mean, I've, I've been the full gamut. I've had this most of my life. And thankfully my dad was a chiropractor and my brother's a chiropractor. So I've been brought up in alternative medicine and I understand that it's okay to try different things. So I just want to spread the word that— and, and the other thing is If there is not something that's going to make you more well in the country that you're in or in the state that you're in or wherever you are, then you need to seek something outside of that. It's amazing to me, Sarah, that people do this every day. People listen. People go to, to Mexico to have cosmetic surgery. So why would you go to another country to have a natural remedy? It just amazes me. Dubai, for instance, has become the water birth capital of the world.

Really?

Yeah, for real. They are just building their third hospital dedicated to water birth.

Huh, interesting.

So you don't speak a language. We as Americans, we don't speak any other languages. Shame on us, but that's just the way it is. And people get caught up in the fact that they're not going to know what's going on. Well, you don't know what's going on anyway.

Yeah, so true.

And everybody speaks English. Business is done in English in every country that I've been to.

Interesting. Okay, take us back to the beginning. How did you come to find this clinic? And take us back.

Okay. Sorry, I get really passionate about this stuff. So, all right. It was my 20th anniversary, wedding anniversary with my husband. I had just found out my doctor in America had just told me that she can't figure out how to get my liver to respond. My liver was shutting down. I wasn't able to walk or talk. I was pretty— I wasn't in vegetable state. I wasn't that bad, but my legs felt like they were filled with cement and I could get to the bathroom, maybe sometimes to the couch by myself, but that was about it. And for many of us Lyme disease, that's certainly not how we operate. So we were pretty scared and our anniversary came up. My husband's from originally from Poland.. And we decided that since we didn't know if I was going to be around for our 21st anniversary, that we would go to Poland to meet— for me to meet his family, because many of his family is from the countryside and many of them did not speak any English. So I hadn't been introduced to them, but now was the opportunity. So we flew to Poland. We sent messages to everybody, we're coming to Poland. He told everybody that I had Lyme disease, that not to expect too much from me, that we wouldn't be visiting people, but that we wanted them to come to the church service. And we were going to have a little meet and greet at a restaurant across the street after. It just so happened that at the service was a friend of my husband's who said to him, hey, one of my friends said that she's been cured. And she gave us the information of a place that does bioresonance. Bioresonance is kind of woo-woo stuff for those people that, that can't imagine quantum physics. But anyway, it's a health modality, a natural health modality that has been around in Europe for decades. And it's used in hospitals. It's used in private practices. It's used by different practitioners for different reasons. So this one of the people that attended our anniversary service said that she had this friend that had says that she's cured. So we researched it, called this office, called the patients, and started looking on finding out about what Bioresonance was and decided, what do I have to lose? Like, I don't Nothing. Like, so, so I have more money to lose. So like, I haven't lost a lot of money already, right? I mean, how many thousands of dollars do we spend as Lyme? Anyway, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. So we decided to buy a plane ticket and go. And it's a— it takes 3 months and it's bioresonance. So in essence, what it is, it's magnets. So you have to let go of all your judgments. I know that for some people, I'm gonna say the word magnets and they're gonna shut me off immediately. They're gonna close this podcast and it's gonna be done. But let me tell you, this is quantum physics. This isn't medicine I'm talking about. This is quantum physics. So think about this. Everything, everything has, emits an energy wave. Every cell in your body, everything, everything that's made, that's created, has every molecule emits an energy wave. So imagine that the good cells emit an energy wave as well as the bad cells. What this— what researchers— which is done in Europe, I don't know why, but this— they love quantum physics. They love stuff that's beyond us. So They found that they could record— imagine this, we're having trouble recording this podcast. These scientists were able to record the wavelength that every cell in your body emits. They're able to record them and store them. Anyone to use. They were able to find and record the bad cells or bad bacteria or bad viruses. They've even now been able to record the different types, not all of them, but some of the different types of cancer. They can't destroy the cancer cell yet, but they have recorded them to be able to find them. So now what happens in bioresonance is that through magnets, you're laying on a type of a magnet and you're holding these rods in your hand, these brass rods in your hand, and they're scanning your body for the cells, the bad cells, and they're able to log the bad cells that are related to Lyme disease and the other co-infections. They're able to detect 100 co-infections now because it's not the Lyme disease that's so bad. It's the co-infections that— and I say this in simple terms so that everyone can relate to it. So that because the co-infections— Lyme disease is okay. Many thousands of people have Lyme disease in them. If once they have a co-infection that likes to play or bother or antagonize the Lyme disease, do they like to happening? So rather than me getting into the scientific terms of all of this stuff, it's easy for me to say I can see how the cells in your body interact with one another. And once somebody comes in, that's the bully that starts antagonizing everybody, then the other cells get mad and they act out. Pretty much it's what's happening. So these, once they're able to record this and know what bad cells are in your body, they're able to play that frequency back to your body at an extremely high pitch and it bursts that cell. Then it goes in through your— flows through your blood system, through your liver, and you excrete it out through your— through pee and poop. Now, trouble with anything, of course, are the Herxheimer reactions. So if your body is not strong enough to deal with these toxins, because that's what it is. It's an extreme amount of toxins. Then you're going to have terrible Herxheimer reactions and feel like you have the flu. You feel like you want to kill yourself. You feel like you're going to throw up. You're crying, you're depressed, you're in bed with the covers over your head and you just want the world to go away.

Yeah. So how do they counteract that?

Right. And that's why you need to go to specialized clinics. And they happen to be— there are several specialized clinics that only treat Lyme patients in Poland. And I happen to be blessed enough to have this woman tell us about it. There, there are some clinics in Germany and Switzerland. I think there's one or two in France and the UK. I think there's a couple. But a lot of times people will use bioresonance for allergies. It's tremendous in allergy. Get rid of allergies. They use it for smoking cessation.

So what does a typical day look like then?

So you don't feel anything and you just have to sit in there and you can, you can think to yourself, this isn't working. I don't know why I'm here. I don't know why I'm spending this money. This is stupid. Or you can think, wow, could it be possible that this could work? So you sit there and you usually— I get extremely tired. Because my body is working. And you go into these clinics and they'll have 6 or 7 or 10 machines and people are snoring. Little babies are in their car seats, totally, totally just sleeping.

Oh my gosh, that sounds awesome.

Yeah, the place is silent. It's the craziest thing.

So how many hours do you sit per day?

Because of what's happening with your body and trying to process these toxins, And depending on what co-infection they're getting rid of and what— how strong your Lyme is, it depends on how many days a week you'll go. Sometimes I have to go 3 times a week. Sometimes I have to go twice a week. It depends on what we're targeting and what my issue is, whether it's joint pain, depression, constipation, brain fog. Whatever it is for me or for you at that time is the co-infection that they will address.

So constipation is one of those?

Well, because it has to do with your gut, what's going on in your intestine.

Interesting. So is a big part of their protocol then detoxing afterwards?

Yes, yes, yes. They— while you're, while you're going through this protocol, they have you drink this alkaline water because what happens With Lyme, when you have Lyme, your body turns acid. So what they have found out in cancer research with this is that cancer can't survive in an alkaline body. And most of our acid— we drink coffee all day. You might as well just drink, just drink a cup of acid. So they want you to change your diet to go to a paleo diet because grains turn to yeast, turn to sugar. Turn to acid. So if you get off grains and you're just eating proteins and vegetables and some fruits, we can't— as Lyme, we shouldn't even have a lot of fruit because it turns directly into sugar, which turns to yeast, which sits in our intestines. So we need to keep our intestines cleaned out all the time. So if you've got something going on in your intestines and you're stuffed up, you need to get rid of it. First of all, I my doctor in California wanted me to do coffee enemas every day for 2 weeks and then every day for like ever. I now am so like, I love coffee enemas because what coffee does is it acts as a scrub on your liver. It acts like, you know, how have you ever done like a body scrub? Yeah. Exfoliate your skin. That's what a coffee enema does to your liver. So you got to keep your body clean on the inside and you'll have less Herxheimer reactions if you're clean on the inside because you're— you don't have any toxins. You kind of get all that stuff out. So this process, this bioresonance process, you have to drink a ton of water. It's like, I can't remember what the formula is, but you take your body weight and you times it by something. Sorry, I don't have that information on me right now.

That's all right. We can find it.

That's how much, how many ounces of water you're supposed to drink a day. So for me, I weigh 135 pounds and I have to drink 70 ounces of water a day. That's a lot of water. Plus you gotta pee all the time. You just gotta pee and poop like as much as you can. You know, we don't like to talk about that stuff, right? But we gotta keep our bodies clean. Because it's the only way that our intestines— our intestines need to be able to absorb nutrients. And when you have an acid body, your intestines can't absorb nutrients. And we don't— we don't think about that stuff. And so this BioResonance is killing these things which are full of toxins, and you've got to be able to excrete them and get them out of your body. So you've got to build up your immune system in order to go through this process. And then you'll be able to get— you'll find that if you build up your immune system, clean out your intestines, drink a lot of water, then your body is going to be more susceptible, more able to process the toxins that are going to pass through your body from going through Bioresonance treatment, you have to have your cell phone off because your cell phone is emitting radiation. You don't want to be near any radiation while you are going through this process. So cell— there's no cell phones and you have to drink a lot of water while you're going through, while you're sitting there with holding these brass rods and sleep. You got to go home and just sleep because you got to give your body time to recuperate. It's working a ton. You don't see it, you don't feel it. Well, other than being exhausted or just tired and you don't see it. So, you know, people say, oh, nothing happened because I don't see it. Well, let me tell you my first round. So I get to Poland my first time. I can't walk to the living room from the bedroom. So I get here and I'm in Poland. I don't You know, I've been to Poland before because my husband is from there. So we've been there a couple of times, but I've never been for a long period of time. And we get there and I'm pretty much in bed. I go to treatment 3 times a week and I'm in for like an hour and a half, 2 hours, maybe 3 hours, depending on what they're working on that day. And I'm in bed sleeping, knocked out, conked out. Exhausted. I take an Epsom salt bath, which fortunately enough, in European countries, they have very deep tubs and all the hot water you could possibly want.

Oh, that's amazing.

So I'm able to take Epsom salt baths to help rid the toxins as well, which is also great, and eat a very clean organic diet because no GMOs are allowed in the EU, which is so brilliant. Got a lot of organic farmers on street corners just wanting to share their great food with you. So it's easy to eat clean in a European country and inexpensively. Let me say, you can eat clean in America. I'm not dissing America. I love America. It's my country. But it's not inexpensive to eat organic here. In other places, it's very inexpensive to eat organically. So the interesting thing is what happened is By week 5, I said to my husband, why don't we go out for lunch today? That was— and I didn't realize that I was feeling better because it happened so slowly. And then all of a sudden I'm saying, hey, let's go out to lunch. And he looked at me like I thought that he was, you know, like going to do a happy dance in front of me. I didn't realize what I had said. And he was like, oh my God, like, okay, great.

He's like, yeah, let's go.

Get out of this place. We went to lunch and I came home and I went to bed, but it was the start. And by week 8, I was able to walk down the street and that was the progression that happened. And by 3 months, I was walking and talking so you couldn't shut me up. I was able to cook again. And yeah, I— so it got to the point where I was able to live in 4-hour increments. Every 4 hours I had to take a nap. And that was the way of my body rejuvenating itself. And the nap could be for an hour, but generally it was just for like a half hour, 45 minutes. And I was able to then go on for another 4 hours. So now since that time, my husband and I have decided through this process, we decided that I enjoyed living overseas. I've wanted to do it anyway all my life, but just didn't have the cajones to do it. We decided that we would live overseas. So we came back to America after my treatment, sold everything we had, everything, and put our whatever clothes we could fit in a 50-pound suitcase, because that's what you can take on the plane, was what was left with. And we went on a journey of traveling throughout Europe on living in a 4-hour increment. So we would plan our day to what park we could be in, where I could lay on a park bench or be close to whatever, whatever Airbnb. Usually we stay at Airbnb so that I can have a kitchen so that we can cook and so that we have our own space to be able to live this lifestyle in. And we were able to travel and live our life in 4-hour increments and live a quite— if you follow me on my website at all or Facebook or Instagram. We live a kick-ass life. Last— this— so this Christmas we're in America for a month. Last Christmas we were in Italy for a month for Christmas and New Year's. The year before that we went to Australia and New Zealand, and the year before that we were in Poland. So it's okay, you know, we've gotten used to— now, now I've gotten so that I can generally go about 6 hours without having to rest, regenerate my batteries. I call it my downtime. And, and it's, you know, it's okay. I have a cool life. I do. I do some consulting, so I'm able to bring in income. I do— I try and do one workshop, book one workshop a month with businesses. So I work with businesses that are American businesses that have offices overseas that need to blend cultures. And so I do team building workshops with them. I'm a master DISC behavioral analyst and emotional intelligence facilitator. So I'm able to blend these modalities, these teaching modalities that I have into 3-hour workshops is what I'm best at because then my brain gets a little foggy. So if somebody wants to do an all-day workshop with me, I say, look, we need to break it up into 2 days. And that's okay. That works. So I'm able to do these workshops for people and help the world get to be a better place. And then I take on private coaching clients and I do workshops. Like, I'm in Maine right now and I just did a vision board workshop.. And out of that, I work with— take on clients that are really— that really want to make a change, that are able not to, you know, that really can put away the stories because we all have alibis, especially with Lyme disease. I, I could make an excuse every day why I'm not going to do something, but that doesn't serve me and it certainly doesn't serve the planet.

Well, it's interesting too, because as you're talking, I mean, the second I got off the phone with you the first time we talked, I told my husband, I'm like, don't be surprised if we go spend a few months in Poland in the next year because we're always looking for affordable treatment options. Always. So let's talk about the financial side of it. Okay. So yeah, that's the other thing that I wanted to talk about. I mean, I love what you said about writing yourself a letter and just acknowledging it's okay. And really, none of us are who we once were. None of us can ever go back to who we were or where we were. I just think Lyme brings it to the forefront on so many different levels because so much of your life essentially changes in order to deal with it.

Yes, correct. And the other thing is, Sarah, is that I hear so many people wanting to be cured. I don't want to be cured. I want to wake up every day and I want to be better than I was the next day because there isn't going to be a magic pill for this ever, in my opinion, because we're dealing with too many co-infections and we're dealing— everybody has a different DNA and that's the problem. Everybody's DNA is different. Everybody's immune system is in a different place. So they're not able to come up with a magic pill. But what you can do is try the different health modalities that work for you that are going to make you better every day. And for me, it was bioresonance that has made the largest impact in my health journey. And that bioresonance is a 3-month treatment. And so you have to go in. Unfortunately, it's bioresonance is available for pets in America. It's not available to treat Lyme in America. And it's not that way because, because the AMA, the American Medical Association, can't regulate it. The Food and Drug Association can't regulate it. Right. So they can't guarantee anything and therefore they don't want it. There are some bioresonance practitioners in America, but they're using it for relaxation. They're not using it specifically for Lyme disease. And so people in America go to bioresonance people and they say it doesn't work because they're not trained in treating Lyme disease. Listen, if a medical doctor can't figure out how to treat Lyme disease, how is somebody that's not trained in it with bioresonance going to figure out how to treat Lyme disease? They're not. They're speaking different languages. They're thinking on a different frequency. So in Poland, I was able to find this practice that specializes only in Lyme disease. They go to conferences in Germany specifically about Lyme disease. They work with doctors in Austria and Switzerland and France that only treat Lyme disease. And they talk to one another about best practices and they train one another about best practices. Wow, that's huge. Yes, it's huge. It is. It's huge. And so these two women created this office that only treats Lyme disease, and they have 8 machines that are going from 8 o'clock in the morning until 8 o'clock at night. And they still want more because there are so many people out there that are sick, especially in Europe, because Europe is full of trees. Europe is one big forest. And Europe is full of parks, and parks are the number one spot to find Lyme disease. And people think that they're safe in parks, and they're not. It's actually the worst place because it's full of birds and mice and all the cute little rodents that are running around and squirrels that are just spreading Lyme wherever they can.

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Hi guys, I want to let you know about a book I wrote called Little Bite, Big Trouble, and I'm going to read a review that recently came in. This This is from Carolyn, and she says, "Thank you so much for writing your book. It has become the means by which I have explained Lyme to my 4-year-olds. They ask for it to be read as a bedtime story over and over again and love that the mama birdie does yoga and juicing like their mommy. I can't thank you enough for writing this book. It has helped my family so much." You can find it today at Amazon.com, Little Bite, Big Trouble.

So tell us about the cost. Okay, so the cost is— cost me $2,000 American dollars to go through the treatment.

For 3 months, which is like mind-boggling.

That's in Poland. So Poland, because Poland, even though it's part of the EU, still has its own currency, it still has the zloty. And so things are less expensive in Poland. So it's like a double bonus. But then you have to rent an apartment because you're there for 3 months. And I've been able to find people because people have come over. There's been 6 people that I know of that have been— that have come over for the treatment because of what they've heard about my journey. And I've been able to find them furnished apartments for about $1,500 a month, sometimes $2,000, depending on the time of year that they're coming. If they're going to come in the summertime where it's the heat of the season, they're going to spend more for the apartment.

So housing, food, and treatment for 3— and eating organic food for 3 months. What does that ballpark cost people?

So if you're spending $2,000 for the treatment, let's just say because it's easy, $2,000 a month for apartment. So that's $7,000. You would for 3 months, you probably need another $1,000 maybe for food. So worst case scenario, and then your public transportation because you don't need to rent a car. In a place like Poland, in a European country, you really don't need a car. It's public transportation everywhere. So easy, so cheap, so awesome. So awesome. I've learned so much about living in a foreign country. It's so awesome. It's such an incredible experience. Once you get over the embarrassment of I don't know what they're talking about, or I can't say— I don't know how to say a word. Just let it go. So around $8,000. But realistically, I think I spent $5,000.

See, and what was so exciting when I first heard you tell this story a few months ago is to me, we've done a lot of interviews recently of people who have gotten one person in their family into remission.

Right.

And it's cost them whatever it is, $30,000, $50,000, $75,000. But there's 3 or 4 in the family who need treatment. And to me, the thing that blows my mind about this and why I want to go visit that clinic is because if they're doing it for one person and the bulk of that is $5,000 or $6,000 to throw— this is something that a family could go and do over the summer, is go out there, go through treatment, and instead of it costing $10,000 to put one person through treatment, it could be like putting 3 or 4 people through treatment for $13,000, $14,000.

That's incredible, right? No, it's pretty mind-boggling and it's difficult for people to grasp it. It's here. It's, it's all there waiting for you. So let me also tell you my new experience that I've had, which is my husband and I have decided to stay to live overseas. So we are now— we just bought a condominium in Poland. And are going to use that as our base for two reasons. My husband speaks Polish. I still do not. I've been there for 3 years. I still do not speak Polish, and I get around just fine. So he speaks Polish and it's inexpensive, and they have free healthcare once you become a resident. So I'm a resident of Poland now, so I get free healthcare. So I can go to the doctor and have a blood test anytime I want. It costs me nothing. Then we bought this apartment, but it's not going to be ready because it's brand new. It's not going to be ready until June or July. So it's wintertime in Poland because it's kind of like the same, almost the same latitude as Maine is. It's wintertime. And we decided, look, since we— our lease is up, we had a 2-year lease on an apartment. Our lease is up. We could stay here month by month. But gee, why don't we go someplace warm? So we decided to go to Spain. So whenever I go someplace, the first thing I do is check out what are the natural health modalities that are offered wherever we're going. So that if I go, I have a relapse, that I know what to do. So I was looking for a bioresonance treatment in Spain where we are in southern Spain in the Alicante area. And I found two practitioners. So I called them up and made appointments with them and asked them if I could interview them. And so I'll be releasing these interviews over the next month or two. One of them is a medical doctor. She's a cosmetic surgeon, and she uses bioresonance to heal people faster in their cosmetic surgery because it heals the cells. So I called her and I said, what do you know about Lyme disease? And she goes, it's everywhere here. And she goes, come in and let me show you how I treat people. So she gave me an incredible interview about how our emotions get so— we get so tied up and our emotions get so tied up in with Lyme disease that we think less of ourselves. And it's just a habitat for our system getting run down. It was phenomenal that this medical doctor was talking about this. It was incredible. And although she doesn't specialize in Lyme disease, she knows she understands enough of it for me to be able to be comfortable in, in staying there for the winter. When I leave this country on January 17th, we will go back to Spain until our apartment in Warsaw is ready. So I'll be there for 3, 4, 5 months until our apartment is ready, and we'll go back to Poland. But then I found another woman who was born in South Africa who was schooled in the UK and now lives in Spain. And she is a psychologist, has her PhD in psychiatry, and found that psychiatry doesn't— isn't the whole picture in getting people well, that people— there are other things that can happen. And so she became bioresonance master and She also does hair and skin and nail analysis to find out where your body is nutrient deficient. And she does this through this new bioresonance machine that can do all of this. And she can take a piece of your hair and analyze it and tell you what nutrients your body needs to get through to help build your immune system back up. And you can do that stuff here, but it's going to cost a fortune, right? This was— now to do that analysis, it was €280, which is about $320. So that was for me, I was like, oh, that's expensive because I'm used to it. I'm used to an hour and a half bioresonance treatment being $35. So I said, all right, so I'm not ready to do that yet. But when we go back to Spain, I'm going to do that because I'm anxious to find out Because I've been on the same supplement regime for years. You know, the C, you know, I take 3,000, whatever it is. I don't even know what it is right now. Grams of C, magnesium. I take 1,200. I've been on the same regime for so long that I'm like, gee, maybe I could change some things up a little and, you know, maybe get a different outcome. So when I go back to Spain, then I'll go through that process with her.

So how far, like, what percentage healed do you think you are at? And then, like, do you then just go in as maintenance mode? Yes.

Yes. Okay. So every 2 years you should go back for another Bioresonance treatment. So I actually went for almost 3 years and it was too long. I had a relapse because I got a little cocky. I was feeling good. So, you know, I kept pushing myself, thought that I could be my— try to push the envelope a little and cheat on my diet. You know, I started like going down the— oh, Poland is famous for pastries, going down the pastry route. Poland is also famous for vodka. Oh, by the way, we can drink vodka because it's gluten-free. So I got a little cocky and, you know, just was drinking a little bit too much and trying to be that, you know, that yucky, yuck person that I, you know. So I paid for it. I had a relapse and went immediately back to Bioresonance. And the cool thing about it was that I could go knowing that I could financially do it and knowing that what the outcome was going to be and knowing that I had to clean up my act and that it was up to me. No one could do it for me. I wasn't going to take a magic pill and wake up the next day and everything was going to be fine. I had to go back through, but I didn't have to go for a 3-month treatment this time. I had to go for a month. So I know that it was my fault. I was the one that had to take responsibility for this.

That's the learning curve though, isn't it, of recovery?

That's right. I only had me to blame and I had to go clean up my act again. And it was cool. I mean, it was great. I was able to say, all right. And quite honestly, I love eating a paleo diet because I feel really good. I had to cook differently. I had to learn, you know, what kind of snacks I could bring with me when we're on the road, because my husband and I, we travel a lot. We travel like all the time, you guys. I got a gorgeous life.

And all of this essentially came through needing access to affordable care. You were open, your mindset was open to things outside U.S. borders, which, if anyone knows anything about the American healthcare system, I don't know why they would even think twice about going overseas. Like, I remember thinking for a while, oh, if there were these other alternative remedies available, I'm sure my doctor would tell me about them. And that was so naive. I mean, that was so ignorant.

They don't know. Listen, they don't. The cool thing about being in a country that's in the EU is that they're all brand new. Because if you're a country that's involved in the EU, you have to abide by their standards. So every hospital is brand new, every dentist is brand new, every medical office is brand new. You go to the optometrist and they have equipment that you've never seen in America. You go to a dentist in Poland, you have X-ray machines and machines you've never even seen in America because they have to abide by EU standards and everything is new. All these countries have EU money. This is all state-of-the-art stuff we're dealing with.

It's incredible. We have met so many people through the podcast who, whether it's they got approved for disability and you realize you cannot live anywhere near on disability in the United States, you will be impoverished. We've met now so many people and we actually who take the money that they have and move somewhere cheaper and then fly home on Christmas or whatever. But the quality of life across the board, everyone we have met with— because we really looked into Panama consistently for over a year because they speak English, cost of living is lower— it really didn't seem like a good fit. But I mean, we're still consciously looking for it because even how you were saying you needed every 2 years you need to go back, I'm at like 3 years since I've had a tune-up, and I know I need to go back and do it, but I'm also treating 2 of my kids from Lyme. And so I'm doing this juggle of, I know I have to take care of myself, but right now I really have to take care of them because they're not at a place of remission. So it's that hard balance, and I just think it's so neat that you guys have, in a sense, just found a another tool to use.

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