22 may 2025 Safe Supplementation

Welcome to the Balanced Body Podcast, where Sherri Griggs, owner of Balanced Body Health and Wellness in Omaha, talks to us about health, wellness, and balancing hormones. Hello, we're here with Sherri Griggs, owner of Balanced Body Health and Wellness in Omaha, talking about safe supplementation. Which is weirdly a mouthful for me to say, but I'm excited to talk about it with you, Sherri. How are you doing?

First and foremost, I'm doing really well today, John.

Awesome. And I didn't say it, but I want to say it, is that you are the MacGyver of hormones, and you help people through their journey of finding out what is Going against them with their health journey.

Correct.

Working with them not only on safe supplementation use but balancing hormones. And if you haven't had a chance to listen back at what hormones are and what they do, definitely go back. We did a deep dive a few months ago. But, um, you know, the way in which you think about hormones in general and then what we need to do to supplement to help each one be a little bit more balanced I think is not only an important part of just what you offer the market, but like how you look at it body to body, person to person. You know, break down super quick for me like supplements and what they do for your hormones when you're putting together your like balanced body blueprint.

Well, there are Some of our essential vitamins and minerals that help our hormones.

Yeah.

To better help our body to metabolize them better, metabolize them safely. There are, you know, and it's, it's really all about our body running and giving it the nutrients that it needs so that it can Run at its most efficient. That's a good way to say it, right? Run efficiently, safely. Um, you know, that's what I like to do. We want to be safe, right? We want to have our body run efficiently.

So, and, um, just because we haven't talked about it in a while, can you run through the different hormones and what they are as if you're a car? If I was a car, What are my hormones? Because I love that analogy.

It is. It's good. And I've brought it up several times. I really need to get my little car guide printed because when I, you know, I like to show everybody pictures of everything. So I say that cortisol is the engine, thyroid's the transmission, the 4 wheels, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and DHEA frequently are like DHEA, yes, that is a hormone. And I've decided that insulin is the electrical system.

Oh, that's a good addition.

Yep. Because I've always said insulin is just kind of like the overall, but we need it really. It's so much more important than that. So the insulin hormone is like the electrical system. So I tell people, we can give you 4 new wheels, and if your motor's not running right, well, the car might go a little smoother, but it's still not going to go very Well, right? You're not going to get very far for very long. And the same way with the transmission being in the right gear. Is it too slow? Is it too fast? Again, they all work together. And even if all those things are good, right, if your electrical system isn't working properly, especially in today's cars, okay, in the old cars, we could get away with that. Our electrical system didn't have to work well. We just needed our spark plugs and, you know, we needed to have our distributor cap. That was about it for our electrical system, really. And the starter, but alternator to charge the battery. But that, that, that right there was the electrical system of the car.

Now, does that trans— does that translate to different generations of people? So like, if you're a boomer, then you don't need to have the same electrical system as a Gen Zer or something, right?

I think so. You know, because boomers didn't have all the— they didn't have all the electronics. And so think about it, really, when you say that our generations, the newer generation, just like the newer cars, has so many more electronics.

It's true.

Doesn't really change the body. Yeah. But so I would say it's our electrical system. And because if you think about today's cars, I mean, one little glitch and it's not starting, it's not running, it's not shifting. It's not. Now, insulin, if you have insulin resistance, Meaning your cells can't use the insulin you have, then you will spit out a lot of insulin and you'll hold on to weight and you'll, you know, you just won't feel good because things just still aren't right. So that's our car.

And, and not to, not to start too general about what we're diving into, because I really do. But when we, when we talked about this as a, as a topic today to discuss safe Uh, safe use of supplements. I thought, man, that's such a good place to be because you just don't even know if you're not— I, I want to say, like, if you're just not a specialist and you don't know what can trigger what and then what compounds to other things. So that's probably just a good place for us to start. But, you know, pulling back even further, when your hormones are out of whack, You know, we had talked about a couple times how I'm on my own health journey, trying to make sure that my hormones are in line, that I'm getting the right supplements for what I need to help me just have a much sort of cleaner day, if you will.

Right.

About hormones.

Yeah.

Why do people start jumping in headfirst into supplements? Like, is it because they feel sluggish or that they feel like they need to lose weight or there's something wrong? And so then they're like, hey, I see this at the store and it says that it's for low T, or, hey, it's here saying that I'll have more energy or that I can fall asleep faster. I mean, is that generally speaking what you see when people are starting to just sort of self-supplement?

I have an example. I did have patients that they, they had access to— they were good supplements. There was no question about it, but they just took them all. Right. And, part of that is I can use the example of supplements for the adrenal system, okay, for cortisol and stress. And, it matters so much whether you have too much cortisol, not enough cortisol. We have wired but tired to where you're tired but you feel like you can't fall asleep. Well, that's— too much cortisol, but somebody might feel like, wow, you know, I think that I don't have enough cortisol because I'm tired. So they, they take something, they, they, or they, they Google, or they talk to a friend who says, oh my God, I was so tired, I started taking this, this supplement, I feel so much better.

Yeah.

So when you start messing with supplements that include herbs, it get— can get a little dicey. When— and the truth of the matter is, in that person's case who's wired and tired, More often they have too much cortisol and they're still tired, and now they're increasing their cortisol.

Yeah.

So what can happen is if we have too much cortisol, then, right, the HPA axis, the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal axis, too much cortisol, then our brain says, whoa, this is dangerous for us. The brain can be damaged from too much cortisol, from being stressed all the time. And it'll shut it down. It'll shut down the adrenals. Now they're even worse. Now they can't get out of bed. They're so exhausted. So it's hearing from a friend or hearing from somebody on social media, or my favorite is you'll see those ads and they'll say, I got rid of all of my symptoms without using hormones.

Okay.

Sure, you did. That's fine. Your symptoms are gone. But isn't that what we're talking about? And that, that's what traditional medicine is, is we treat your symptoms but not the cause. So, all these people— sick medicine. So all of these people get this message that you can treat your hormone, lack of hormone symptoms. without using hormones. And they feel that they're being integrative or functional or preventative, and they're doing all these things because it's not a prescription drug. Right. But really, and you don't know what you don't know. Right. They're treating symptoms, but not the root cause.

Right.

And through symptom treatment, you then are not protected against osteoporosis. You're not protected against cardiovascular disease. You're not protected against dementia. You're not protected against high cholesterol, high blood sugar. There are all these things, muscle wasting, all these things that by taking care of the root cause, which is low hormones, you get all of this benefit of prevention that you don't get by taking a supplement that fixes the symptoms.

Do you find that Because to put myself as an example in there so I can talk about it in sort of a more real way, um, did it— it seems like when you do your assessment and we're diving in on what the root cause is for me and myself, or like one of your patients, Uh-huh. There's got to be, or I would assume that there's— I come in and I'm wired and tired and I feel that way. But then there's a whole slew of other things that I don't really know because maybe the wired and tired feeling is the one that's actually, actually taking precedence in my mind. And there might be other things that I'm not thinking about that you would be able to see once you kind of diagnose something. Do you think that that is a big problem with sort of self-supplementation, or what you find is somebody's like trying to just fix not just the root cause, like Like the sick medicine thing, but it's like they're only focused on the one. They're like, if I solve this, then it'll solve everything. And really, there's like 5 other things that are a problem. Is that, is that normal, or was that kind of like your case?

Um, no, that can very much be normal. Um, right. Again, frequently it's going to be, well, should we say by, again, either searching, um, And when you search, you know, a lot of times people will find an easy answer and be done. Now you'll have those with people that'll really dig in, right? They will really dig into it. They'll find research studies. They'll do the work. But most people don't have time for that. So you're right. They're like, okay, I figured out that I'm— again, I'm tired. I'll sleep better if I take melatonin.

Mhmm.

Are you low on melatonin? Or are you just taking it because your friend said it worked for them?

Right.

Because there's so many things. You could be low on GABA, you could be low on melatonin, you could be low— you could be a woman that needs progesterone. You could be somebody that needs some magnesium for relaxation. You just say throwing spaghetti at the wall hoping it sticks, right? And you can waste a lot of money doing that because good supplements are not cheap. I was doing some researching. When I was researching, I'll tell you this story. I was doing a bunch of research last night on supplements for a patient and finding— I found an article that talked about— and gosh, I wonder if I saved it because it was so interesting— that said if you get this inexpensive form of magnesium, it's because it's the cheap form and it doesn't really work. If you get— I mean, it gave exact examples, and I should have saved it for our talk today because it gave exact examples of some of the supplements that people will buy inexpensively and why they don't work or they're not safe or they have fillers or junk or whatever in them because it's inexpensive to put that ingredient in. They're not lying. It truly is that ingredient, but it's the form of that ingredient that doesn't work as well. So, in a sense, they're kind of wasting their money. Right?

Yeah.

You will get providers that believe that all supplements are a waste of money. They don't work. You notice that your urine is bright yellow when you take them. So, you know, you're just peeing them out. They're not working.

Yeah. Yeah. I did get actually told that.

Did you?

Yeah. Supplements are just expensive pee or something. So, they said something. I was like, huh? What are you talking about?

Right. It depends on what you're taking. Some of them that are water soluble, like your B vitamins, yes, they'll turn your urine yellow, but I still see people's levels go up. So if they didn't work, I wouldn't see their vitamin B12 level go up. If vitamin D didn't work— and vitamin D is so huge, such a really, really, really good one. Um, now the people that I told you about that had a hand, literally a grocery sack full they brought in, they were taking so much vitamin D that She was at a toxic level. Oh my God. So it's a fat-soluble vitamin, means it can be stored in the fat stores. You don't clear it out as quickly. You can't have— you can have too much of a good thing. So, and I think that I feel like my primary care providers, some of them are very, very sensitive about that because I think they've seen people coming in and overdosing themselves a lot.

Well, that's probably, you know, if I put myself in their shoes, that might be actually why sometimes these doctors that focus on sick medicine might be anti, you know, either supplementation or, you know, herbs or whatever. Because what they see is they see when somebody gets into an issue, you know, like Um, as an example, I've talked to somebody about like, you know, testosterone pellets and like what their thoughts on it were. And they were like, well, negative, because anytime I see somebody about it, I'm having to dig in and figure out what's wrong with them. And it's always that. He's like, I don't see anybody who it's actually working for. So, you know, I'm sure it works for a lot of people, but I only see the people it hurts. Right?

Because they do. When people are having issues, that's when they go in.

Yeah.

And, you know, that also— that's why they say it matters who you work with, right? There is a company out there, and just to answer that pellet thing, there's a company out there that believes in giving very, very large doses. And there could be issues. People could have issues with it. I tend to, especially with ladies, not like to start them on pellets because sometimes you can have a weird reaction. I had a gentleman come in, his dad came in with him, and his dad said, I had not a good reaction to testosterone. What made me think— what he told me his reaction was, is that somebody overdosed him, right?

Yeah.

So I would rather start people out a little low and then have to increase their dose the next time I see them, as opposed to starting them out. We'll say guys can start out Say 1,200 to 1,600. I start my guys out at 1,200, okay? Because I'd rather have you be a little low, maybe run out a little soon, than start you at 1,600 and have you have a bad experience.

No, no, sorry. And like I said, I threw a whole wrench into that because we started talking about, about testosterone going awry. But that should be a big clue into how You, Sherri, run your business. Like, when we sat down and looked at it, we didn't just say, hey, this is normal for everybody, this is what we'll get you to. We pulled not only my labs but then my DNA, and we looked at, you know, 5 different ways that, like, what's going on very specifically with me. It's like, okay, here's your plan. Now we gotta supplement with these other things. And one of the things I was going to say, one of the questions I had is like, it seems like these supplements all kind of have not a lot of the same thing, but, you know, the supplements you're using have a couple of the same. So when you're looking at a whole picture, you're saying, oh, this might have some vitamin D, this might have some vitamin D, this might have some vitamin D.

Right.

Altogether, this is your level of D dose. Is that how you— I don't know how you talk about it like that, but like, that seems right to me.

And that's where, you know, making sure— because, for instance, when I looked at those patients' supplements, I'm like, there's the exact same thing in this one that's in this one, except this one has one other thing in it, and this has one other thing different. And there were several bottles like that, right?

Right.

So that's where it came into those supplements taken as prescribed were safe until you started combining everything, which is where I made the comment about something might work for one person and then another person who has maybe an issue with the liver or the kidneys or something, it doesn't— it's dangerous for them. So I look at that. Also take into consideration, so let's say that I believe the thyroid support has B in it and a B, the methylated B complex, which makes sure that you methylate or metabolize your hormones properly.

Yeah.

Also has B, but remember, B is water soluble. It can't overdose you on B. So, you know, now we do know there are symptoms. So B12, we know B12 is for energy. If you get a level that's too high of B12, which you would have to be taking a lot of B12, not just a complex or a little here and there, you're going to be probably doing injections or you're going to be doing— you know, high, high doses of sublingual or liquid B12. But you could— it takes energy away if you don't have enough. But if you get too much, it takes energy, causes fatigue. So that's why there's optimal levels, because sometimes in that case, having too much of a good thing gives you the same symptom as not having enough.

Huh.

So that's why you need to know these things. I like to check levels, keep an eye on things. I don't use a bunch of herbals. Obviously, if I need to deal with adrenals, I tell people the number one thing to fix your adrenals is lifestyle. That's the number one thing. The number one thing to fix your vitamin D is to take some vitamin D. The number one thing to fix your adrenals is lifestyle, right? But that doesn't mean we can't support them.

Mm-hmm.

Um, But I was going to tell you about this patient. She has some problems with some autoimmune disease, and she's on something called Remicade. And Remicade is— it's chemotherapy is what it is. And it brings down the immune system so that her autoimmune issue, which happens to be an intestinal issue, her body doesn't have those symptoms.

Yeah.

It's great for that. It's horrible for— she gets sick. She got strep throat. I don't know how she got strep throat. She doesn't have young kids, but she got strep throat, and then it became antibiotic-resistant strep throat because she has— her own immune system is being knocked out, knocked down by this Remicade. But it's also very, very hard on the liver. So she went to her doctor's office for her GI checkup, and her liver function tests were really elevated, really elevated. And they said, send us a list of what you take and we'll look at it. So they looked at the list of everything she was on and they said, yeah, we don't, we don't know. Just don't, just stop it all. But it's up to you.

Mm-hmm.

Which is very open-minded, right? We don't know. It's up to you. Right? So she came back to me and I spent the time to go through everything she was on, which wasn't a lot. She's doing the weight loss kit. And I thought, oh, for sure, there's probably something in there. There wasn't a thing in there. I reached out to the company, out to the medical team on the company, and they said there's nothing in there. So my research matched what they said.

Mm-hmm.

Which was really good because I, as I was reading about liver problems, it talked about weight loss drugs and green tea extract. And there was another one, black cohosh, I think, that is in a lot of weight loss drugs. And there was one other one. Garcinia cambogia or whatever. And I'm like, oh my God. Oh my God. So I'm looking and they had none of that stuff in their kit, which to me was like, I thought they were a good company. Now, I thought so. I felt so. Right?

Yeah.

But they don't put it— they didn't have anything dangerous in there. Now, so looking at some of her other stuff, she did have a stress balance because she did have horrible adrenal, a lot of stress. And there was one thing in her stress balance, ashwagandha, that has been known in high doses to cause liver toxicity. Okay? And ashwagandha is very popular right now.

It is.

I've got patients walking in going, oh, I'm taking ashwagandha. Now, I'm probably going to look at it a little bit harder how much they're taking.

Yeah.

I don't add any more to their regimen, right? They're coming in for the hormone special and they're telling me that's one of those. I may start going, how much?

Yeah.

Right? I'm not prescribing it. I'm not recommending it, but they're already doing it. So I'm starting to see that as maybe a trend. So that can be very toxic to the liver. Now, this gal also had had diarrhea for 3 weeks because of this stomach issue because she couldn't get her medication. That can cause a real stress— dehydration, diarrhea. I mean, the liver and the GI system are, you know, they work together. So it probably was because if you have the flu, you get the stomach flu, your liver enzymes will go up. Huh. Because of the The fluid loss with the diarrhea and the dehydration that comes with it. She felt she might have been dehydrated. She told me about that. I asked her about acetaminophen. Acetaminophen has been known to totally destroy livers. Tylenol in high doses. When it says don't take more than this, you— it's one of those things that you really don't want to take more than that. So, and then one other thing was called skullcap, and there was a very minute amount of it in a detox capsule I had given her. But that also had milk thistle, which milk thistle has studies that it protects the liver.

Yeah.

It's liver protective. So I am quite certain because she hadn't even been on that for 2 weeks, but she'd only been on the Stress Balance for 2 weeks. There's no way in that short of time and that small dosage that that was the issue. I think it was, as I told her, the perfect storm between the diarrhea, the exhaustion, the stress, the dehydration, the Remicade, you know. Then she said she came back and said she'd been on some Naprosyn, which we know that to be more of an issue with kidneys. than the liver, but she had researched and said it can cause liver failure. So it becomes a matter of what's happening and, and putting it all together and knowing.

So yeah. That's why you're the MacGyver of hormones. I mean, literally, like, you're in there not only looking at specifically what's in each hormone or each You know, nutrient— oh my God, I'm spacing on the name of it. Um, not pharmaceutical. We were just talking about it. Supplements. Thank you. Oh my gosh, I feel like an idiot. Um, but each supplement, you're digging in on the supplements, but then you have access to the teams because you were going out and finding not just the supplement, the best, you know, research to show that this is the one that you want, this is the one that John needs because that's what he's taking. So I, I, you know, as an endorsement for how you do it and what I've seen with my own process, like, I can straight up say that that's exactly how you run it, is you, you are looking at everything, weighing the pros, cons How much of this is in there? What is it going to do? How does it work well with me?

So, well, and, and not throwing the, you know, what is it, throw the kitchen sink at it. For instance, for you, right, we are taking care of balancing some other things, getting some supplementation in, and not doing anything with your thyroid but supporting it, and it's getting better.

Yeah.

Right. And it may turn out, but if you were at— if you had gone to a traditional specialist, you would be on a thyroid medication right now. Although you don't need it. So I had a patient come in telling me that, and it was the same situation. The TSH, the thyroid stimulating hormone, was high. The pituitary was spitting it out because the body said it needed thyroid, but the working free T3 that the cells use was perfectly normal.

Hmm.

So when they gave her thyroid medication, because they based it strictly on her TSH only, she had a horrible, horrible response. And that was a response of hyperthyroidism, of overthyroid. She had too much thyroid in her system. She had heart palpitations and she couldn't sleep and she was anxious. And those are symptoms of having too much thyroid in your system. So even though that one lab, which we did for years— I worked for an endocrinologist. We only use that one lab to decide everything, that TSH. They gave her medication. She did not need it because the free T3 that the body uses was fine.

Hmm.

It was good. So then they'll chalk it up to a, well, You just can't take thyroid replacement. You had a bad reaction. No, no, you didn't. You got overmedicated. It wasn't a bad reaction. You were overmedicated because you were giving something you really didn't need based on one number instead of all the numbers. Hmm.

I wonder how often that happens.

I don't know. It would be interesting. I know. And on that note, there is a supplement out there That has a thyroid glandular in it. So it is— it's glandular, it's dried gland from a pig, usually, sometimes a cow, bovine, sometimes porcine. And— but it truly is medicine. It truly is the same thing that they're putting in a natural NP Thyroid or Armour Thyroid.

Hmm.

And so, but these people can get it as a supplement. And the risk of over— of too much thyroid is you can draw— it'll draw the calcium, it'll draw your bones down, draw the calcium out of your bones. It will— it can cause heart problems. I mean, it can be very dangerous. And I unfortunately had somebody come in here and another practitioner had given her this. And I said, when's the last time they checked your thyroid levels? She said, oh, I was just a little drugged down and tired, and they gave me this and told me to take it. What? I said, this is a medicine. This needs to have the levels checked just like you're taking a prescription.

Yes.

So people, they don't know what they don't know. They dabble. They think everything's safe because it's a supplement. And as we've just been talking, just because you can buy it over the counter or you can buy it online doesn't mean it's safe. Really, herbs.

Herbs.

There are people that study. They're called herbalists, and they get certifications because herbs can be so wonderful. And that's how we did things. We treated our bodies with herbs before we had all these pharmaceuticals. But they can be so dangerous at the same time.

Because they can do things.

Yeah, they can really mess some things up. So if I get to where So that's why when I do anything with them, I'm doing them with companies that have medical teams that have put them together. These are safe together. Most of the time, I— and I could double-check, but I'd say probably 100% of the time, they all have medical studies behind them.

Hmm.

So I use what's called medical-grade supplements, and they come with medical studies. They come with medical studies. They come third-party tested. What they say is in them is in them. You can buy something off the shelf. Do you really know that's what's in it? Because there's no one policing this.

Right. A lot of those supplements are not FDA approved.

Well, they're not. They're not because they're considered a food. They're a food-grade thing. So, so because supplements are considered food, there is an argument. There's a lot of controversy that goes back and forth, and it's going to be like the guy you talked about, or the doctors that see these people come in. Or somebody that comes in with liver failure because they've been dosing themselves with large amounts of ashwagandha and maybe throwing some other, some other stuff in there, not knowing that it could be dangerous. Well, one of them is this. I don't know if I say it right. I've seen it at the gas station signs. Kratom. Kratom.

K-R-A-T-O-M. Kratom.

Kratom. That's dangerous. That stuff—

I've heard that.

That—

why is it dangerous though?

Because it can be toxic to the liver. Liver toxicity. So what if you drink alcohol? What if you take acetaminophen? What if you're taking kratom and all of a sudden you overtax your liver and it cannot— it cannot filter all that stuff out? What happens? Toxicity. So that was a big thing, and people were using it and buying it, and, and it can be very dangerous. But again, it's a lot together, right? I'm going, if you're taking this and this and this and this and this, and you're like, well, what if I'm just taking kratom? Well, if that's all you take, maybe if you're not overdosing it. But how many people say, you know what, this works really good, I bet more will be better?

A lot. That's the kind of life we lead. More is better.

More is better. Yeah. So that's why it's important. Um, you know, if I can tell you anything, it's number one, if you're going to do it, if you are going to self-medicate, you better spend some time— and I'm talking hours— researching, researching against other medications you take, researching genetics a little bit, right? Because what if you have a familial history of clotting disorder, a bleeding disorder. If you have a history of bleeding disorder, you probably better not be taking large, large amounts of fish oil. If you're on a blood thinner, you don't want to be taking large amounts of fish oil or vitamin K. I mean, and D works better with vitamin K. But if you, you know, I mean, they're just You need to know these things.

There's a balance.

There's a balance. Yeah, there's definitely a balance. The next thing would be is make sure you know what you're getting. I have this whole article that it was actually, I think he was an FDA inspector, wrote about why you should never buy your supplements on Amazon or eBay. But what one of the pharmaceutical reps pharmaceutical reps, supplement reps told me was this: if you're going to, make sure the company that supplies it is the company that made it.

Hmm.

Because they're responsible, they warranty it, and they know what's happened to it. Has it been hot? Has it been cold? How old is it? What's its exposure, right? Has it been stored? And when these people, these middlemen, buy these products from the companies, you don't know where they've been stored, if they've been exposed to heat, which some things just cannot be exposed to heat or it breaks them down. Sometimes it not only breaks it down, but it can cause a chemical reaction that makes it not safe.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah. Has it been frozen? Is it something that's a liquid that's been frozen and it shouldn't? So has it been sitting in the sun? You don't know what's happened to it, and then it's not guaranteed by the company. So if you're buying it from a third party, you just don't know. So that's what she said, and I thought that's really good advice. So I tell people, you don't have to buy your supplements from me. If you buy them from me, you need to know I've got them directly from the manufacturer. They are stored in a temperature-controlled environment. They never get direct sunlight. They never are frozen, right? Temperature controlled.

Mm-hmm.

You know, you know that they're, they're safe. You know that they're medical grade. Many of these companies make them in manufacturing facilities that if all of a sudden the FDA said, nope, We're going to have oversight on these, and you need to meet our standards for drug manufacturing. They already do.

Hmm.

Because the writing's been on the wall a long time. People, they're trying to get, you know, some oversight on this. Um, and, and we know we have the studies to go with it. Many of them are 3rd-party tested, meaning that if this company says there's 500 micrograms of vitamin B12 in it, They've had another company take their product and test it and make sure that's really what's in there.

Hmm.

Maybe they'll pull a batch out here or there and check it to make sure that the quality is staying where it belongs, and they don't get inexpensive or cheaper forms or the cheaper variation so that they can sell it for less. That's why they're expensive. Because it's the, it's the good variation. I do wish I could find that because it was so interesting. Of the ones that they pointed out. But yes, so, so that would be it. Third-party tested medical studies to back their claims. And directly from the manufacturer or somebody you trust that you know where it's been and how it's been stored.

It's all a lot. But geez, if somebody's going to do it, it's going to be you.

I do err on the side of caution, which is why when I— we talked about pellets, I said rather than giving you the highest dose of pellet, which somebody might argue, well, I'm going to give them the highest dose because it's going to feel really good really quick and they're going to love me, right? Where I might give somebody the lowest and they're like, well, I felt better, but Then I didn't feel good again. Well, that's because you burned through it. We'll just do a higher dose next time, right? So it just— I'm always better safe than sorry. I would rather be safe and be conservative than throw the kitchen sink at you.

Which I think is important. And, you know, that is— you still don't— you just don't know until you have a conversation. So head on over, balancedbodymedical.com. There's a little button there.

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Sign up. Thank you, Sherri. I appreciate the time. I can't wait for our next discussion.

Oh, it'll be a surprise.

I love surprises. I know some people don't, but I don't mind them.

They're always fun. That could be fun. Good surprises.

This has been the Balanced Body Medical Podcast with Sherri Griggs, owner of Balanced Body Health and Wellness. If you're looking to find Sherri, go ahead and look for the website balancedbodymedical.com. If you're looking for the business and you want to find Sherri at her office, you can find her at 10815 Elm Street in Rockbrook Plaza.

Thank you.