Cortisol Hacks: Simple Ways to Calm Stress, Support Sleep, and Reset Your Nervous System

Welcome to the Balanced Body Podcast, where Sherri Griggs, owner of Balanced Body Health and Wellness in Omaha, talks to us about health, wellness, and balancing hormones. Welcome back to the Balanced Body Podcast. I'm here with Rupina Mir, and we are talking today about hacks, hacks for relaxation and stress. As you know, we talked last week We talked about menopause and the cost, so to speak, of menopause and what it does for people, for you and your body, and for society. So we were talking and thinking we should do something to try to turn down that cortisol a little bit. So, Rupina and I have been talking about cortisol and ways to help my patients lower their cortisol, and she said, I have some amazing hacks for that. And I said, all right, this is what we will be talking about. Rupina, take it away.

Yes, let us do it. Cortisol hacks. Okay. So, it turns out that the fastest way to calm the mind is through breath. So, the fact is through your breath, your breathwork.

Yeah.

So, the fastest way to lower stress is to use your physiology and lower what is called autonomic arousal, AKA stress, through a specific pattern of breathing. And we do this anyway. We do this unconsciously. Dogs do this right before they go to sleep. So it's a pattern. You take a deep double inhale through the nose and then a long exhale through the nose. And so when you're doing that double inhale, you're maximally inflating your lungs. And then when you're exhaling, You're allowing your nervous system— it's actually a signal that says to turn on the parasympathetic, which is the rest and digest arm of the autonomic nervous system, that it's okay, now it's time to switch into relaxation. So, we do it unconsciously anyways during sleep. And so, instead of forcing calm, you're just tapping into your body's innate reset mechanism.

Mm-hmm.

And signaling to your brain, hey, it's time for sleep. So, just slow down your breath, double inhale, long exhale. And that is a great way to signal into parasympathetic.

Would— so, would that also be, and I think you probably just said that, a great something to do when you get into bed and you're trying to relax and shut your brain off and fall asleep?

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, a lot of the, the 3 hacks that I have, really, because some of them can be also for sleep to help facilitate that deep sleep. Okay.

Yeah. And to help you fall asleep quicker, right? Because you're relaxing and getting into the parasympathetic system.

Exactly. Exactly. If you're in that ruminating analytical mind, you can take all the hormones, all the melatonin in the world. But you'll still stay in that loop of thinking, thinking. And so the fastest way is to take that elevator from your brain to your heart, which is the next one that I'll get into, or into your breath. Right. And then you're— these are all little primal innate signals for the nervous system because nervous system speaks the language of signals. So you're signaling through the breath. The double inhale and the long exhale, that it's time for rest.

Okay. Okay.

And that's why dogs, dogs, dogs are the masters of sleep and stress, as anyone who's had a dog can attest to, right?

Every time you say that, I look down because my dog is sleeping on my lap right now.

She's mirroring the mastery of, like, just being in the moment and enjoying, right? Or sleeping or whatever she's doing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Great.

So, so that's one. Okay. So, the next one is a little bit— I'll get into it a little bit more because it's really powerful. So, our brain is 2 million years old, and it's wired for stress and survival, not happiness, right? The heart, conversely, actually has a little brain. So, there's 40,000 Special cells called sensory neurites, meaning— and this was published in the Journal of Neurocardiology, which as the name would suggest, neuro, brain, cardiology, heart— there's actually a little brain in the heart. And so, when you do this technique called heart-brain coherence, you're sending the neuropeptides from the heart into the brain, and you're allowing these 2 potent organs to work as one system. And that's why it's called coherence. So check this out. This is such a cool— Gregg Braden talks about this a lot too. This little 10-minute technique, if done correctly, it creates a 0.01 Hz frequency. That's the frequency that whales use to communicate with each other. It's a magical frequency that creates extraordinary healing. And this 10-minute technique can raise IgA, secretory immunoglobulin A, which is your body's first line of immune defense. Think of it as your body's natural flu shot by 50% for 4 days. So your, your body is now going into growth and repair. 50% rise. This was done out of Joe Dispenza and Hamel Patel did a lot of studies on meditation and heart-brain coherence. And they published that in Evidence Is the Loudest Voice, that this particular technique, which we do all the time at the retreats, and you can do anywhere. The cool thing is that you don't have to be in a meditation studio or a monastery or anywhere. You can be in your car. You can feel stressed, overwhelmed, triggered, something happened. And, an errant remark or an inflammatory email. And instead of just stewing in that milieu of stress, you can do this. So, first thing, what you do is a 3-step technique. First thing you do is you place your hand on your heart because your awareness will always go where you touch it and feel its pulsating beat. So, just, it's a way when you touch your heart, You're giving your body permission to take that elevator from your brain into your heart. So just feel it. Second step is to just slow down the breath and pretend like the breath is flowing in and out of your heart. So slow it down. 5-second inhale, 5-second exhale. Again, that slowing the breath is a signal to the brain that you are safe and you can turn your attention inward, that you're not being chased by a saber-toothed tiger. Okay, so that's step number 2, just slow down your breath. Step number 3 is that you really bring up a very regenerative, positive feeling involving one or a combination of the following 4 emotions. And that's care, compassion, gratitude, appreciation. So just bring up a really loving memory that you have. It could be the first time you birthed your babies, or the first time you held your fur baby in your hands, and you're just flooded with that feeling of care and compassion and emotion, gratitude. And just step into it with all 5 of your senses. What were you feeling, smelling, sensing, touching, tasting in that moment? And just step into it. So first you create the feeling and then you sustain it by really getting into it with all of your senses. And that again creates that heart-brain coherence, which turns on 1,300 different biochemical processes from raising your immunity to super cognition, to turning on longevity hormones just from this one thing. Pretty cool, huh?

Yeah. Oh, and like you said, you can do it anywhere. If, if anything happens, something, road rage or whatever, right?

Exactly.

Stop. And it takes how long?

10 minutes. 10 minutes.

That's all. You do it for 10 minutes?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah. You do it for 10 minutes. Just like really get into it. So yeah, just close your— I mean, it could be anywhere. Close your eyes, feel into your heart, slow down your breath, and then get into the feeling and just bask in those feel-good chemicals. So basically, you can program your autonomic nervous system to create a pharmacopeia of feel-good chemicals and turn on the growth and repair, which is the parasympathetic. Rest and digest arm of the nervous system versus the default loop, which is like, say you were road rage or you were triggered, you stay and you keep making those stress chemicals, which create— which continue to perpetuate that inflammatory cascade, which is the root of all disease. Disease is really the body not being at ease. So, this is such a powerful signaling way that you can program your autonomic nervous system that, hey, yeah, this thing happened, whatever happened, but now I'm going to still allow my nervous system to turn on the healing chemicals and not the stress chemicals. So it's really cool because when you, you know, you've probably known people who've been to therapy, right, for years and years. But when you're just trying to analyze or rationalize or understand trauma or past hurts or failures or whatever happened through the vantage of the brain, the brain is a logic organ. So, it polarizes everything through the logic loops of good, bad, right, wrong, victim, victor, success, failure. But when you can tap into this innate intelligence of the heart, the heart is not a polarity organ. So, you can view whatever happened, the trauma, the past. This doesn't doesn't change what happened, right? So whoever is listening, and I'm not trying to minimize the trauma or whatever that somebody went through. So this doesn't change, but it gives you a tool to process in a different way because the heart can allow you to learn from it, honor it, and then gently let it go, right? The Harvard MD Candace Pert wrote about this in her book, Molecules of Emotion, that when we can process emotions through the heart and then let them go through sweat, tears, urine, or It's that moment that creates extraordinary healing.

Yes, because we know inflammation is the cause of a lot of disease, a cause of a lot of problems, and keeping all that inside— when they talk about it festers, it literally, right?

Absolutely. Absolutely.

Keeps the nervous system in a state of almost reliving it Yes. All the time.

Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. That's one of the things we do a lot in Dispenza's work is we talk about what's called shortening the refractory period. Even Dr. Joe, Joe Dispenza, I'm talking about, he says, do I react? Yes, I react. I'm a human. We're all humans. We all react. The question is how long, right?

Not how, but how long.

Right. How long? Because I remember back in the day when I didn't have these tools, I could be in a bad mood for a Right? For, for 2 weeks. And it's like, oh, this thing happened and this person did this to me. So I'm in a grumpy mood or I'm ornery for weeks on end. But then that's a choice because you know that the physical physiological stress response flushes through the body in 90 seconds. And so if you choose to continue to be in a foul mood beyond that, That's a choice. That's a choice at that point. So you can, you can say this. I mean, we all go through stress. I mean, stress is ubiquitous, right? Who doesn't get triggered by something or the other? I mean, none of us are Buddhist monks with like perfect moods, right? So this happens to all of us. Oh, well, stress, whatever. But the thing is that in that moment, you can choose to make a different choice. And now you have this tool. in your toolkit, heart-brain coherence, where you can combine, you can send those neuropeptides from the heart to the brain, allow the 2 organs to become one, and then create this magical frequency that signals your nervous system to turn on healing instead of stewing in the stress chemicals. Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. So, 10 minutes, right? That is not much time. And, I tell patients all the time. And, in fact, I Told some of them, if the only way you can get peace and quiet is sitting in your vehicle, then do it. Turn it off, park somewhere and take 10 minutes. Now, I didn't know about this technique. So I hope other people really listen because it's going to do so much more because you're actually getting into that parasympathetic system.

Yes.

As opposed to just, I told them, you know, listen to some, do a guided meditation for 10 minutes. And maybe they're not into that. Maybe that's not their thing.

Right.

Anybody can breathe in and out and count it. Yeah.

Anyone. And you— exactly. You don't need a guided— I mean, you did. It was great. Again, if you have that, you can. But it's like in the moment you're triggered, you can just— this is what we call pruning old synaptic connections and sprouting new ones because we have a default way of being. Like, when people say, why is this guy mad or frustrated for 10 years? Oh, this thing happened. He lost his mother, or she lost her mother, and now she's just bitter and, and ornery because they just— it— that's who they become, right? That emotion then runs their lives. It's like, oh yeah, I'm just frustrated, or I'm, I'm just grief-stricken, right? That could, that could go on.

Yeah, I have no control over that. It's not my fault. I didn't, I didn't mean— yeah, that didn't need to happen.

Right, right, exactly. And so with this, it just gives you The choice, again, choice to say, okay, yes, I did lose my mom, or I did lose my, my dog, and I'm extremely devastated. And yeah, I mean, it's totally okay to acknowledge and feel that emotion. But how long are you going to live there rent-free? Right?

Right. Where your nervous system continues to be triggered. Your nervous system continues to have that inflammatory and that inflammation. As you choose.

Exactly.

To live in that moment that, like you said, may have been 10 years ago.

Exactly. Yeah.

I have never quite understood. I, I know people like that that will hold and harbor anger and resentment.

A grudge. Yes.

I don't know how they do it. I, I, I just move on. I don't have time for this. I'm gonna let it go. But I, I also think that it's a different— like you said, And I, I don't know, you said exactly like this, but it made me think of, you know, as humans by nature, people are negative. And yeah, I'm really not. I really am not. I always think that, well, they probably— this probably happened. That's why they did it. It's never a, they were trying to be mean to me or they were trying to hurt me or they're just—

Yeah.

You know, but I do find that that is true. Most people, and that's, that's normal. That's human nature. It's probably a protective mechanism. I definitely would have gotten eaten because I would have said, Oh, that's just a misunderstood lion. He just needs some scratches by his ears.

Right. Right.

As opposed to the smart person who said, no, I think that's a hungry lion. Let's run. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely.

He means us harm. No, he doesn't.

Yes. Yeah. That, that is so the, the, so the human brain, like I said, is wired for stress and survival, not happiness. Right?

Yeah.

Now, some humans like you may have a higher set point of happiness. Right? Like the, they see the glass half full versus the ones who see the glass half empty. But regardless of whatever your set point, you can always change that because awareness creates a different consciousness, creates a different milieu of emotions that you live by. And so, yeah, there was actually the, the positive emotions just fall right off like Teflon. But the negative emotions, the brain holds on to them. A lot longer.

Interesting.

That, that's just, that's just our survival mechanism because, you know, our Paleolithic ancestors had a lot of physical dangers, right? So it's like a lion chasing you, a tiger chasing you. The brain is like, ooh, danger, and holds on to that negative. But if it's like a positive experience, say something, you ran into a cluster of berries, oh cool, maybe that didn't last very long for them. Right. So, that is just how our brain is wired. And so, it requires some conscious choice-making to change that default programming.

And bringing it right back into that stress, you did, you brought it all the way back in full circle and to saying that not listening to your own nervous system. So, what do you think about this? So let's say, because somebody's not listening to their nervous system, they go, they go, they go, they never stop, they don't breathe, they don't take the time, they don't listen to their nervous system.

Yes.

Because that is a betrayal. But then what happens is they end up in a situation where it's quiet, there's nothing going on, and they are forced to sit in that. And I see a lot of people make major decisions After doing that. Is that because they have— they've gone into their parasympathetic system, which has taken them out of that fight-or-flight situation?

Absolutely.

And allowed their brain to process?

Yes, absolutely. And intuition really means inner teacher, right? When we go within, we know that all the answers are within, right? But we're so conditioned, indoctrinated, in the world of AI and Google that the answers lie somewhere exogenous, right? And so, we're seeking and we get that dopamine hit every time we jump on chat or we jump on Google or let me find this, let me do this, let me fix it. Something exogenous is going to fix this. But all the answers always reside within. So, if you can just slow down the chatter and go within, Give yourself permission to go within. Know that it's safe to go within. That's where most people get the brilliant epiphanies and the guidance and the downloads that, you know, I hired this therapist and that therapist, but actually, I knew within me what was being asked of me in that moment, what was required.

Just needed to sit quietly and listen. Yeah.

You just— and let me tell you, many people are scared of that silence. I have a friend, like, she would go to great lengths. I mean, they go on vacations in groups, right? Because she doesn't want that alone time with herself or even with her husband or whatever, because then she's running. She's running from something, right? So when you're running— And that's why we keep such busy lives, right? Because when you're busy, busy, busy, then that gives you the— I don't have time to analyze this emotion of grief or frustration or anger or whatever. You just keep going on that hamster wheel. And so then suddenly someone asks you, well, why don't we just sit here and do nothing without your phone? To some people, that's like heresy. What? Take— yeah, like, what? Take away my phone, sit here and do nothing and be with my thoughts? That is torture for many people.

Some people— or turn off the loud music. My Gosh, can't you just be in silence?

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So people have all these coping mechanisms that they construct because they don't want to be with that silence. But, you know, as they say, be still and know that I'm God, because that is the divine within. Every— everything resides in that stillness. Oh, that's hard to get too biblical. But I think that the science— that's why we go into meditation, and that's why so much profound healing happens in meditation. Because when you're going within and allowing that autonomic nervous system, which is kind of— I think the autonomic nervous system is the divine, because autonomic means automatic. It's like you don't have to tell your heart how many times to beat per minute. You don't have to instruct your lungs to contract and expand.

Right.

But suddenly now we've become control freaks. Freaks, and we're like, well, I got this. I'm going to manage this. I'm going to fix this. So this is a way when you go within and cultivate these tools, you're allowing your body to allow the autonomic nervous system to put it on autopilot so you don't have to work so hard. Right?

Right.

But it's torture for a self-control maniac who wants to— who's taken on the— I'm the self-appointed manager of the universe, that type of personality. You tell them cut off the phone and sit still, they're like, what are you talking about? That's insanity.

Right. Well, now, do you have a third hack?

Yes, I do have a third and last one. And, that one doubles as both stress and sleep. So, if you can drop your body temperature by just 2 degrees, that will, again, that creates a signaling mechanism. And so how do you do that? You artificially elevate the body temperature by taking a hot bath or a shower as hot as you can stand it.

Yeah.

90 minutes before bed. Right. And so then in about an hour or so later, when you exit the shower, your core temperature starts dropping. And when it drops, when that's 2-degree drop in temperature, again, it flips on the parasympathetic and it allows for deep non-REM sleep and also just to lower cortisol and allow you to drift away and sleep like a baby.

You know, that is part of the sleep hygiene is—

Absolutely.

Take a hot bath, a hot shower, and a cool room.

Sleep in a cool room. That's right.

That's right. And I do know that if I take a hot bath at night, I will sleep much deeper, much more restorative sleep.

Absolutely. Absolutely.

Those are some great hacks.

Yeah, I mean, it's simple stuff, right? And it's just that, like, breath and a hot bath and heart-brain coherence, these are free tools and nobody's branded them. But if somebody suddenly branded them and put them into some system and charged a lot of money, then maybe people would give it more credence because now suddenly it's a thing. But because it's literally under our nose, We sort of bypass the conversation and always go to our head like, oh, is this really gonna work? It works. And like I said, the, the SIGA, and it's all documented. This is not woo woo. This is, this is science.

And it's simple.

Yeah.

Exactly. Well, I will tell you that I have discovered something called Sensate. And it is— and so this is gonna— going to be for your people that are like, there's no way I can sit and just my breath and— what? I'm not doing that.

Yeah.

So it's actually kind of doing something. But what it is, it's this little— I had to move my hand because of my little dog. It's about this big and it vibrates to sound, to soft sound. So it says, you know, it can lower your stress, can do it for 10 minutes. They have some of the soundtracks are 15 or 20. And you literally— they want you to wear headphones. And I've done it without headphones. I've done it with just my phone next to me, but it's preferred to be headphones so it can be Shut out the outside noise, and it plays a soft, relaxing music, but there's also on your heart soft vibrations.

Mm-hmm.

And so these vibrations act, right, just like you said, they're, they're a message to your nervous system.

Yes.

To calm down, and they go with the music, and it just They talk about it like being a cat purring. And I will tell you that when I did it, and I should be doing it again, although I've been better at the breathing and the calming, but it almost became— it felt like almost an addiction. It was like this feeling that it would give you was such a deep calm. Now, you and I talked before, before we started, we did some breaths. And I said, because, you know, I'm at this kind of energy. Right? I am like this.

Mm-hmm.

And so for me, that was just— it was just— it felt peaceful. And when I pause when I say that to you, because I used to do vision boards back in the day when I was in my other job, and we would do vision boards. And anytime I'll go back and see something— peace— always wanted to feel at peace. And that's because I never— I was always in fight or flight. Always. It was never peace. And, and I do this just 10 minutes, and then you— it's like you crave it. You want to keep doing it because it is— it's, it's that good feeling that I think you could almost compare it to the endorphin feeling that people get a rush from something and it feels so good. This is a different— it's not a rush. It's a— but it still feels good. What is that?

Yeah.

Acting, is that stimulating?

I think what you're talking about, peace is more of a neutral feeling, right? So it's not the rush of endorphins, or it's not the cascade of stress hormones, but it's more sort of your center, like that neutral. You're just at peace, right, with the world, which is such a great place to be in because we're constantly chasing for the next high. Instead of living life just constantly, you know, gyrating on these highs and lows, if you can just switch into that neutral place of equanimity and peace, that's a powerful place to be in.

It is. Well, I can tell you that would make me feel that way, just such a deep sense of relaxation. And, and going back to what you were just saying, talking about how we're always You know, trying to get someplace and trying to get something done and looking for that next rush goes back to the right where they talk about enjoy the journey.

Yes, exactly.

Enjoy, enjoy the journey to get to where you're going. And people talk about it so focused. Yeah. I was telling a coach earlier today, when you talk about the journey, that I'd worked again in the previous career with some coaches and they would say, you need to know how to get to point A, from point A to point B. So that you can get there, right? The quickest way to get there. If you're this, it takes forever and you never get there. But I would say yes, but if I'm like this and I'm wearing these blinders because I'm only going from point A to B, there might be some other wonderful things out there that I'm missing.

Absolutely. I think the biggest lie we've been sold is that we're linear beings operating in a linear world, right? Healing is not linear. It's not point A to B. And that Creates massive expectation gap. Because if somebody starts on a bioidentical hormone or a supplement or a sleep, oh, well, this worked or it didn't work, or then, oh, it worked. Like somebody was telling me yesterday, oh, I lost 5 pounds on the keto diet, or, but then I spoke too soon because then it came right back. And it's like you're so governed by what the scale says. And so then you fall into disillusionment and, and despair. But it doesn't— it's never meant to be a linear 1, 2, 3 forward momentum. That is healing, is what you described, all over the place.

Yeah.

That is the divine. What you— it's like this incongruent maze that gets you to whatever destination if you're just willing to trust and go along for the ride. Instead of saying no, like you said, put your blinders on and I'm going to do it 1, 2, 3, my way. That didn't work out so well for me with the breast tumor, right? Because I had pigeonholed the healing and saying, oh, no, I got this. I'm a nutritionist and it has to come through nutrition. It has to come through meditation and it has to come through a mystical moment. Those were my 3 points. But guess what? That's not the way it was supposed to be, right?

Right.

When I finally surrendered is when I had the healing. So that's such a great point that you brought up, that it's never— it's never— we're multidimensional beings having a multidimensional experience, and it's perfectly normal to have 1, 2, 3 forward movement, maybe 1 step sideways and 2 steps backwards.

Yeah.

That's, that's perfectly okay. And to not get discouraged by the process.

When you say that, it makes me think of this other coach I used to have. His name is Floyd Wickman. I think Floyd is 82 years old. And he used to have— it was a dance, he called it. And it was 2 steps forward and 1 step back and just keep going. Yeah. Yeah.

Except you don't know what the dance— like, yeah. Yeah. That's a choreographed dance. But life is an unchoreographed dance. It might be 3 steps forward and 5 steps backwards. Yeah.

You know, I think he was just trying to get people to realize that in a different way. He was talking to a different group and kind of simplifying it. And as opposed to getting deep into make— helping them to understand that really, yeah, those steps are learning processes that get you to where you're going and then change your way of thinking and help you grow.

Yeah, absolutely. And you mentioned something about the Sense8 having that cat purring frequency. I was just Diving into that. They said that is the most supernatural healing frequency is a cat's purr because it's that particular frequency that turns on innate— the body has innate intelligence. And we now know that frequency healing is the future of medicine, right?

Yeah.

They are creating these sonic, like, in children's hospitals for cancer. They are where we can create that frequency instead of this cytotoxic medicine and kill the tumor with the chemo and the radiation. You can use sonic technology like ultrasound to shatter and break up the tumor if it has that particular frequency. So, I mean, there's 528 Hz, which is supposed to be the deepest healing, universal healing frequency that Repairs and regenerates our DNA, DNA code.

So much that we're learning about if we just open our minds.

Exactly.

And, and, and be, be open. Like I said, don't have the blinders.

Yes.

Be aware of your surroundings. Don't focus on those negative things. Let them go. Do that 10 minutes to take those 5 seconds in and 5 seconds out. Let these things— we know disease, illness, cancer, inflammation, stress.

Right.

So use these hacks. These are easy hacks. They don't cost anything, minimal amount of time. And it's things that you have at your fingertips every minute, every moment of every day because it's within yourself.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And know that you are a co-creator. So it's like if you continue to go on that trajectory, of, say, frustration or anger, say, from the triggered email, then you're just going to attract— it's like going rolling up to the cosmic kitchen window and saying, I'll have a side of bitterness and frustration with my fries, right?

Yeah.

So it's like, okay, well, you ordered that, so I'll send you some more of that, right? And so then sometimes, because this happened to me, I'm like, gosh, it's Why is all of a sudden all this negative milieu? It's like, because you stayed in that emotion too long, and that's literally like rolling up to the cosmic kitchen window and saying, okay, yeah, please send me some more frustration and send me some more things to feel like a victim. So coming right up.

Yeah.

You know? Yeah. So we are literally creating— we don't see the world as it is. We see the world as we are. Right. And so when we change that lens and perspective and the meaning that we give to the event, then everything else can change. And I hope that, that you guys can walk away with some of these tools and embrace them.

Yeah, these are some great tools. Well, this was so good talking to you. I want to throw something out there, Rupina, and see what you think about for next week. So in the past, every once in a while, I throw something out that has absolutely Absolutely nothing to do with medicine, so to speak, or even what I do, but it has to do with business. And we were talking earlier about Profit First and that system and some of Mike Michalowicz's stuff. What would you think about next week talking about that a little bit for our listeners?

Sure, why not mix it up, right?

Yeah, well, we did— I did one. We did this company called Legally Mind that helped business owners, people with LLCs, Understand, um, if you're listening here now and you're a business owner, helps you understand that every state in the United States except for 3— Alaska, Delaware, and Wyoming— the judge can dissolve your LLC or pierce your corporate veil and take all your personal stuff, and you have no recourse. It doesn't protect you. So we did that podcast. We had a guest on for that. I Would love to do something. I feel really strongly about this system. I feel that if I'd have had this system in my previous career, I would be sitting differently financially right now.

Yes.

And Mike also has another book, and I can't think of the name of it, but it is— oh, The Money Habit. And this is for people's personal business, The Money Habit, that he just literally came out with.

Okay.

Ways for people to personally— so maybe we'll throw a little profit first in there and we'll, we'll throw some little money habit hacks. Because what is one of the biggest stressors in people's lives?

For sure, money.

Money.

Absolutely. Absolutely. So I think it comes down to— it's about abundance, right? It's about an abundance of good health or an abundance of good emotions or an abundance of money. Money is just an energy, just like anything else. And so if you're feeling very restrictive and grasping and holding on, then that's again dis-ease in the financial, um, system. So—

But some people don't know how to get out of that cycle.

Yeah, yeah.

They don't know where to start.

Yeah.

So we'll talk about those 2 things.

So we'll throw that in.

Yeah, come back next week and we'll talk some ways to help lower your cortisol and get rid of your stress. And in between your breaths, calming yourself down, then this would be some steps to help you financially.

Amazing.

Get some peace.

Yeah. So, it is a 360-degree wellness, not just physiological.

Right.

We are going to, you know, throw something in about financial wellness as well.

There you go. Yeah, sounds great. I'm looking forward to talking to you about it because I, I feel pretty strongly. I, I really like the system. I've been working it, um, maybe a year now, and it's—

it—

when you talk about abundance, it has brought a lot of people, a lot of things into my life that has been so supportive, all because of one book and one author.

Oh wow, that's awesome. I'd love to learn more. Yeah, let's do it.

All right. Well, enjoy your week and weekend coming up, and we'll talk to you next week.

Till then, this has been the Balanced Body Medical Podcast with Sherri Griggs, owner of Balanced Body Health and Wellness.

If you're looking to find Sherri, go ahead and look for the website balancedbodymedical.com. If you're looking for the business and you want to find Sherri at her office. Yes, you can find her at— 10815 Elm Street in Rockbrook Plaza.

Thank you.