In this episode of the "Conversations with the Universe" podcast, Sylvia Leifheit, who claims a near‑death experience has given her the ability to communicate with subtle cosmic levels, conducts a guided, mediumship‑style exploration with an interlocutor referred to as Speaker B. The dialogue focuses on traversing deep, dark energetic planes using only consciousness, without moving the soul’s energy. They encounter an immense, infinite "energetic wall" that separates a plane populated by extremely low‑vibration soul fragments—described as a "realm of emptiness" where fragments lack memory, emotion, and substantial awareness. Sylvia observes that some fragments cluster together, potentially forming new, stronger energies, though communication with these bundles is limited. The conversation also notes a tiny link that connects this plane to the primal Source, enabling a subtle flow of Source power. Sylvia contrasts the empty, heavy, dark plane with a brighter, abundant region beyond the wall, describing the latter as filled with love and consciousness. Throughout, they acknowledge the lack of physical formulas to explain these phenomena, emphasizing experiential insight over scientific description. The episode ends with a return to higher, lighter levels and anticipation of future explorations.
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Dear human, dear soul, I welcome you to my podcast series Conversations with the Universe. Since a near-death experience, I have the gift to communicate with subtle levels of the cosmos. The knowledge from these for us invisible forms of energy I capture in my books, and it is now a great pleasure for me to share this knowledge, these conversations, with you as a supplement to the books. Please excuse me if the terms and articulations are not perfect. Our mother tongue is German, but we try to translate it to the best of our abilities. Dearest friend and teacher, I am ready to continue the descent with you, to travel into the energetic descent. Please, please report.
My power, like yours by the way, cannot move into the very dark areas of the cosmos. It's because while we can modify our powers, reducing them to such a minimum is impossible. Our souls and their power is so much more powerful that we would lose our essence, we would lose our consciousness. That's why I've learned to travel these areas with my consciousness only.
And how does that work? I'd be really interested in having you explain that to me. Where are you and how does it work?
I stay completely in my level with my soul strength. When I start to concentrate, my consciousness seems to shift into these other levels without my strength having to change.
Can this be compared to meditation, where we stay with our soul in the body but travel somewhere else with our consciousness?
Yes, very good. It's actually similar. So when I focus entirely on something, only the mind, the consciousness, moves.
But I have also learned that the direction of consciousness, the energy with which I focus on something, determines where I move. Well, that is also a kind of energy.
Yes, that's right too. But in this case, you want and can't move there, so you have to leave it at the movement of the mind. Do you understand?
Yeah. Is traveling like that tiring for you?
No.
Okay, then I'll keep trying, because I've actually done it before, but I am still curious about how it continues.
Okay, let's try it. Now direct your attention through the levels you have already visited. The outcasts, the love-torn, and the rigid souls. Then you're hitting a line.
Wait! I keep getting this image of some sort of wall. Is that correct?
Yeah.
Really? A wall?
Yes.
But it seems very large. Quite so. As big as up to the sky, very, very, very, very big, like it has no end. What is that? That's not a wall. I mean, there are no walls.
It is an energetic wall. It slows down the movable and filters the immovable.
But in the cosmos there is no immovable state.
Very true, love, but yet it forms the partition. Between which the still, albeit slowly moving energy fields of the soul fragments and those who don't seem to move.
And why do we need a wall for this?
I don't know.
Okay, so I'm standing at this wall now. I am there with my consciousness and they are climbing. Really impenetrable, I can't get through. What do we do now?
Now you can penetrate the wall with your mind. This is the reason why we need to travel with awareness here. You wouldn't have made it through with your soul energy. It's a clear line of energy states. Now make your way through.
That's actually quite different from what I know. Ah, thanks. I need to see how it works. Okay. We are currently holding something here that would usually take many minutes, about 10 minutes or so, but I'm just going to continue here. It's okay, but I feel a bit like I'm getting a headache.
That can be, yes. Stay with your consciousness. Move if you can with your mind and describe to me what you see. I am with you.
So it's very quiet here as well.
And I actually feel— Yes, just as still. It's even darker, so even darker. Dark, dark, but I'm not scared. Very good. You don't need to, and that means you are in your soul power. I like that. If you would focus on this area for a while longer, you would notice the following things. I'm reporting. In some parts, you'll find more soul fragments than in others. So it's not seen as a domain that houses soul fragments evenly. It seems there are different qualities. I wasn't able to research these individual qualities because no information flowed through these fragments of soul They're not just rigid, they seem almost lifeless.
Yes, we've talked about that before, that you would actually call it a kind of graveyard because it almost feels like these energies— but we also agree and we know the energy laws, where there is no energy death. What exactly is the state here? Have you been able to find out?
Ja. They are fractions of energy fields that have so little energy that they almost don't exist consciously. They don't have any real memories because they also carry so little awareness. They are energetically very, very weak, and this is the cause of their weak consciousness. My experience has shown that several components occur due to this powerlessness. On the one hand, it is so quiet because the energies vibrate so low, and additionally, it's harder for us to perceive what kind of problems these energy fields carry in their matter. What I mean to say is that they don't function like the other 3 levels in other areas. It's not like they're endowed with some kind of emotionality. They're just there. It's like the empty being. Do you understand what I mean?
Yes, I think, I think I understand what you mean. When we previously had the energies that felt rejected, the others who did not feel love and the others who were rigid, we still had a certain kind of emotionality. And apparently also something that could remember.
Aha.
There is no such emotionality and no memories here. Nothing.
Yes, exactly. It seems like there's nothing there. But you still see the soul fragments, right?
Yes, yes, and I'm getting a headache.
Block it out, Sylvia. Block it out if you can, please, just for a while longer.
Okay. So from a human perspective, I would say it's terribly boring here.
I told you about the different concentrations of soul fragments. What I also find interesting is that some of these soul fragments are completely alone. Otis, like they were heaps. And if they are these heaps, They can certainly also work far into space, not just on one level, filling the space, but bundled.
And you could, if you have this kind of bundled energy from— you've seen a bundled kind of energies, don't ask or find out why, that are so bundled. I mean, they should have a bit more energy, strength, consciousness.
One would think, but I couldn't.
Okay, then let me take a photo. I'm currently dealing with some kind of bundled energy. No, you can't communicate with them. It's not possible. Interesting. Now my heart starts to cramp up too. Interesting where you're leading me.
What's all this?
Let me keep looking. It's quite intriguing.
Stay in your consciousness.
Could it be that when there are Several of them, they come together to form a new kind of energy?
Yes, that's right, well recognized, darling. Indeed, this amount of soul fragments can and most likely must form into a new energy. But I wanted to report that to you separately, what possibilities there are for these soul fragments in the cosmos to transform themselves.
I see, so we're observing this kind of formation, but there's some movement after all.
Yes, of course, I am not saying that there is no movement at all. Only compared to the other fields we have visited and learned about, it is so much less. It seems for a moment as if they were totally immobile. But if we calculate with your time in eons, they naturally move.
Ah, man. Those who are really alone, they somehow make me feel sorry. That's terrible. I want to approach one of them. Subtitles by the Amado community. Wait, I have one that looks like a broken arrow. You know what I find interesting? When I want to give energy impulses there, it's like they're being slowed down, as if the energetics in this area are so— as if the energy impulses had to pass through some kind of thermal mass.
Yes, I have noticed that too.
Purely from a physical perspective, I'm now curious as to why that is and what it is. Now I'm really starting to feel sick, girlfriend. Is it because things there naturally have no energy and energy movement and therefore no light at all?
I don't have a physical answer to that, dear. As much as I'd like to give you one. But for me, it's just the way it is. I can't provide formulas and parameters for the problem. But I'll still like to continue to research and understand it.
Yes, yes. The question about formulas is also a form of understanding for me. That's my inner analyst. Sapphettus Commission by Sylvia Leifheitheit, 2017.
I know. And say sinfo. And the analyst is also very good and welcome. But here we come to the next limits of your physics.
Yes, I understand. Well, I'm feeling quite heavy now, maybe. Maybe 10,000 years ago. Tons. My heart is heavy, it feels like a stone. My third eye seems as if it is plastered and glued with concrete. This level is incredibly strenuous. Now don't tell me there's another one. Really? No, you're kidding me. I'm just focusing on a spot where it gets a little brighter, but still. It's up there, right? Yes. What is that? This is the link from the plane to the primal force of the Source.
Good that you are noticing this already. It's actually very, very small.
Yes, but it's there. What is it there for?
It is there to enable the plane to connect into the Source, because this part is also a part of the Source power.
But it's not like anything's coming through, right?
No, not as you mean it, but it's the connection of the plane in, and with the power of the Source that you perceive.
Yes, I understand.
So this wall, it seems as if it were infinite, Yes, of course it is infinite. It encloses this plane of love.
Wow, it's really interesting to see something so gigantic. I just want to point out for the listeners here, it really seems as if this is another world. There is a kind of giant wall, yet it knows no finiteness. On one side there's something like a little light, but it's so grey, it's actually something spatial, even though I don't really find this word fitting here. On the other hand, it's kind of like another state of aggregation. Yeah, I think that's how we would describe it in our human understanding. One. This is one. Hmm. One side is still with air and the other side is with tar. I think every one of you could relate to this when he hears it. It's incredibly slowing down, just really very different. Hard, dark, and uncomfortable. But it's interesting that something like this exists. And you're saying there's more to come?
Yes.
Well, I'm intrigued. Are we done with this area now?
Yes.
Then I would like us to mentally return home now.
Of course, darling. So please now proceed to the other side of this energy wall. Keep going through these frequency ranges until you enter the brighter levels again. Further and further, higher and higher and higher, and feel where you feel comfortable. Yes.
Okay, I'm here.
Very nice. Do you feel good? Stay a little longer in this attention to the light. Refuel the light. Take in the warmth, the peace, and the love that surrounds you.
It's a bit like emerging. You know what? If I have this feeling now as a contrast to the other levels, to the other just now, then the feeling here is the feeling of purest abundance. And that in the other level, which is also full, but is full with this Ter energy, that feeling of abundance isn't there. So this here is a fulfilling energy, and there is a— it's a full energetic, but it isn't filled with love and consciousness. And that's why you feel this emptiness.
That's one way to describe it, honey. Yes, very nice.
So a place without love and awareness is intense that it exists. Interesting. One is fulfilling the inside, the other is therefore not fulfilling the inside.
Very well put.
So this wall, I find it still quite exciting when I think about it. Such an energy wall that there is something like that. We didn't have this at all in the higher levels before. Let me continue to marvel. Thank you for this session, and I'm really looking forward to the next one. I can't even imagine what's next, but I'm going to experience it. Thank you so much, my dearest friend. Thanks, love.
