Bishop Whitehead Headed Under The Jail, Drake Dating Latto's Little Sister? City Girls Are Over?

Good afternoon and good morning. Welcome back to another episode of Wine Is the New Tea, hosted every Tuesday and Thursday at 12 PM Eastern Standard Time. And whoo, why knows, we have a plethora of topics for you today, from scammers to Breonna Taylor down to Bishop Bling Bling. But before we get into those topics, let me introduce our panelists, from Troy to the Cigar Blogger. Introduce yourself, gentlemen.

Hello, I'm Cigar Blogger, live from Cleveland.

Yes, it's your boy Troy TP. Um, Palm Beach, Florida.

Yes, yes, yes. So we have so many topics today. So we're gonna be starting out for the top of the hour with the scammer from Seattle, baby. She was scamming up the Pindibi money. We're gonna be talking about the Breonna Taylor Act. Of course we're gonna get into Don Lemon versus Elon Musk. Is that some type of marketing ploy? We also have plastic surgery for men. Are you here for it? Are you against it?

Did.

We will also be talking about JT. You know, everybody wanna— JT going solo and on tour. Are the City Girls breaking up? Drake dating Latasha's sister— what's that about? The TikTok ban. And of course, Bishop Lamar Whitehead getting 45 years in prison. But we're gonna start it off with the scammer from Seattle. Troy, what are your thoughts on that?

Oh damn, hey, sis did what she had to do. I just wish she would have been smarter about it, you know. A lot of folks took advantage of that PPP, um, yes, during that time a lot of folks took advantage of it. I do feel like, um, a lot of us— I feel like we are getting targeted, but these big corporations was really doing the most when it came to, um when it came to, uh, the PPP, you know what I'm saying? This girl here, what she did was she probably actually had like 50 people under her. She had a whole organization to where she was, uh, getting PPP loans and doing false— had people being, um, claiming that they were tenants, they were landlords, they were, they were, uh, business owners. And she ended up getting about $6.8 million out of the whole situation. 6.8. She hit and then she only got 5 years. So you really got less than— you really, you really got less than a year for each million.

Now, backstory, it's Paradise Williams from Seattle. It's not Atlanta. I know some of y'all are like, Bree, was it Atlanta? No, it was Seattle, to be honest. And you know, she could have been an Atlanta neighbor. I'm just playing. But Seattle randomly hit 6.8 in PPP COVID-type relief with a crime organization running it up, and then she finally got caught up. So I'm gonna send it over to the Cigar Blogger. What are your thoughts on this? How do you feel about the people scamming on the pandemic money?

She is really lucky that she didn't get the, um, hammer dropped on her. She only got 5 years because she, she was running an ongoing criminal enterprise. That's how they got the mob with RICO charges. So for her to only get 5 years, she should do those 5 years standing on her head and be glad that all she got was 5 years. Um, yeah, I mean, she, she really lucked out. She must have had a real good lawyer because for her to have an ongoing criminal enterprise and all she got was 5 and fed time I don't know.

I, I don't want to—

I don't know how she pulled that off.

I wouldn't want to do no day in prison, to be honest. But she spent it on— you already know what she spent it on— luxury cars, right? Trips, right? BBL, breast implants, baby. She said, if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it big, right? I'ma spend it all.

That'd be the problem though, like when we hit these type of licks or whatever, we come up like that, we don't do right by it. We going out living this luxurious life instead of, you know what I'm saying, put— building your business, coming up, buying some property, putting the property in your mama name or somebody else name. So when the feds do come, it ain't— you can't— they can't take that from your mama because your mama, it ain't— it ain't— it ain't tied to her, you know what I'm saying? But we always got to be loud, you feel me?

What's wrong with being loud? I mean, it's—

I'll tell you what's wrong.

Being loud when you wrong.

Right, you got to be quiet because if you, if you living over here, not quite luxury. Look, if you living in the projects one day and next thing I look up, you driving a doggone Lamborghini. Come on, man, where you get the money from? You got, you gotta— if you ever watch American Gangster, the loudest person in the room is the dumbest person in the room.

Oh, I feel like this, if you already scheming and scamming and they gave you that money. First of all, how did she qualify? What was the criteria? What did she put on the applications? Now, and 5 years, that's a lot of time to me. I can't be the Orange is the New Black, okay? Big Bertha can't be taking my good virginity and in the prison and whatnot, because we know the inmates don't get treated the best, whether it's fed or state. But true, true, $6.8 million. I hope she lived it up. I hope she had a ball. She needs to write a book about it, tell her story, capitalize off of this, start you a YouTube channel, talk about how you were formed, tell the people how you want to do right, how you want to be a pillar of the community.

Tell us how you got over on them people, because baby, they was—

when they was issuing out them checks, I, I didn't even get in line. I didn't even attempt. I just said I don't want no parts. And it seems like everybody who got the millions and was doing it up, baby, they was lit. Okay, surgery, she got nothing but time to work on them, them body enhancements, the teeth, the, the bags, the stolen goods. Do she have to pay restitution?

Yes, she does. She got to pay like $2.2 million, um, for one. Like, she paying, she paying back like almost $4.5 or Qualified.

Now she paying back a lot of everything that they couldn't sell, everything that they couldn't take and sell to recoup that money. She's on the hook for it.

You're on the hook for it. That's federal.

That's how they do.

Yeah.

When they come— when the feds come in and they catch you, they're gonna liquidate all your assets that you stole. And if you lucky, uh, you won't have that much of a bill left. But most of the times, like, say if you got— you living in— you driving a $100,000, $200,000 car, they might sell that car for $40,000, $50,000 because they don't want to keep it. They just want to get rid of it. So you still on the hook for that other $100,000, $150,000.

On the hook?

Yeah, you still—

you got caught.

You hit the pickle.

See, this is why it pays to do a life of 9 to 5. Okay, go, go clock in, clock out, pay your taxes, because $4 million and I got to do prison time, baby, that's not—

But if she would have bought some real estate, they still— huh?

They would have taken it.

She could have flipped that. No, she could have flipped the real estate.

At the same time, she wouldn't have been on the hook for all that money because they would have sold the real estate, and then they would took all her assets, sold it, and then she would— you know what I'm saying?

But they took the cash. If they would have took the cash, she still would have had some stashed away. But now they got all these assets she can't liquidate the Brazilian butt lifts and all the other stuff. Take a safety pin, go, you know, she's stuck with that.

Listen, when I saw she spent that money, that $6.8 million on cosmetic surgery, I said, yeah, baby, if, if we gonna do it, cosmetic surgery in the world.

She went to the best doctor.

She said, I'm not going to the backyard basement girls, I'm going to, to them, one of them.

She went to Brazil herself, flew to Brazil and got it done. It ain't that much, um, plastic surgery in the world.

Yeah, he has to keep up the image.

No, she was being hood rich, which was what got her jammed up. She was being hood rich.

Too loud, man. Too loud.

Look at, look at the two richest people in the world. You got the guy with Microsoft and Warren Buffett. Do you ever see them riding around with Gucci and Louis Vuitton?

Yes, it just don't have the name tag on the front of it.

But I read a book, Warren— I was looking on Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett still makes sandwiches and like, he, he's very—

yeah, he's still living in the same house that he had when he got started. Yeah, when I lived in Atlanta, Ted Turner— this is Ted Turner that started CNN and all that. Ted Turner drove around Atlanta in a Toyota Prius. He owned 3 suits. He had a black suit, a charcoal gray suit, and a navy blue. He said, what do I need all these suits for? He said, I can mix and match. He owns 10% of the land in the state of Montana. Do you understand how rich you got to be?

They got, they got some, um, listen, every rich person I know, whether it's quiet luxury or loud luxury Baby, they got some, um, vices. My friend, you would never know, but, but she like to spend that money. She got a cute kill now.

But you right, listen, Paradise, uh, the big chain, uh, got to get the jewelry, the cars, the big house, all that. And then when you get busted, then you want everybody put some money on your books. No, it don't work that way.

Don't work like that.

No, no, listen, because women, women don't get no love in the prisons. Paradise, send us your information, baby, and tell us how you got over on women.

I got to hear this one. How women don't get no love in prison? I'm kidding.

They don't get no love in prison. The prison wives— come on now. I had somebody in the feds, they was not getting no love. Them women— and for every one male inmate, there's 50 women waiting for them. For every one woman, it's probably like one or two. It's probably the granny, the mama, or the kids. But moving right along, Let's get into the Breonna Taylor Act. Oh my goodness, justice for Breonna Taylor. Her mother is reintroducing the Breonna Taylor Act, which will, um, alleviate the no-knock bill. Because for those that do not know, the reason Breonna is not here with us anymore is because the police went to the wrong house. Starting with you, Darryl, how do you feel about this act being reintroduced?

I am glad. It should have been a law a long time ago because you laying up in your house and you minding your business There was a case here in Detroit— the cop— well, over in Detroit, the cops went in to serve a warrant. They went to the wrong house, kicked the door in, and they shot a 7-year-old girl in the head and killed her. The person they were looking for actually lived next door, but they went into the wrong house. Girl sleeping on the couch, and they shot the little girl in the head, killed her. So I'm all for this. I mean, If you want somebody that bad, catch them outside when they coming out the house, or you know for a fact they're in the house, you've seen them go in the house. Not just wait 2, 3 in the morning, you want to kick a door in. No, no, no, because you're gonna hurt innocent people.

How do you feel about it, Troy?

I echo, um, what the Cigar Blogger has said, you know what I'm saying? It's like they gotta— we gotta— law enforcement gotta be held accountable. For what they do, especially for their mistakes, especially when they mistake cost a life, you know what I'm saying? You just can't be busting nobody's door and you kill somebody and, oops, my bad, I'm sorry, it was a mistake. Like, no, bro, because that— you have affected so many lives by your one mistake, by you being trigger happy. And I had nothing against law enforcement at all because I got partners who's police officers, but I think that this law should have been in place from day one. You know what I'm saying? Because we can't— if I go out there and hit and hit the wrong person trying to get my man, they're not gonna want to hear, oh, he shot in the crowd and he hit, he hit a 13-year-old kid, but he was trying to get somebody else.

No, bro, right?

You know what, honestly and truly, this is why it's so important, and I know people hate to hear this, while we are in there voting at the local levels, because this bill was introduced, it was passed, and they agreed upon it. And people act like they're shocked that it was approved. Now when it comes time for some justice for us, we gotta fight to the nail just to get some type of retribution, some type of accommodation so it doesn't happen to another loved one. And to be quite honest, this bill will help not only the Black community, the white community Because baby, they was kicking in the wrong doors on their side too. It just so happened, uh, this woman lost her life simply because the man was defending himself. Mind you, they did everything the right way, and it's so tragic. And this is why I will constantly encourage our young men and women and the older generation— when you say voting don't matter, baby, look, they voted that no-knock bill up in there. Easily, because y'all say voting don't matter. So I stand with Breonna Taylor's mother on this. I stand behind her because this will alleviate someone having to wake up in here, uh, we need you to come down to the morgue and identify a body.

Exactly.

That, that ain't right. That ain't right. No, no parent should have to bury their child. I didn't like that. And to the police, this is why I say we can go march in the streets for everything else. Let's march in the streets for something that will be effective, a tool to protect us. Because I, I can't imagine somebody kicking in my door and thinking they gonna run up in here because I, I live in the state of Texas, baby. We locked and loaded. What are you doing? I'm thinking you, you might be one of them people trying to take them. I got nothing to say, you know. I work at Instacart, so I only make $12.56. I ain't got nothing. But y'all, it is crazy. But before we get into the next topic, y'all, we gotta hit them sponsors and pay the bills. Raise them wine glasses as we get into them endorsements, y'all. Let's run it.

Who you are? So you a Laverne Witch?

Yes.

Okay, you've been behind the scenes in Hollywood for almost 30 years?

Yeah.

Okay, and do you mind if I mention who, who referred you?

I don't mind at all.

Bilal.

Bilal, yeah. And we work together on that same set.

What?

Yeah, so one day he was gone.

We're talking about the set.

There was a couch and, um, Will was bent over on the couch and Dwayne was standing up killing him. Murder, like murder. It was murder in there.

LisaRaye was there. LisaRaye. Dwayne Martin.

Dwayne Martin.

You. I. Blau.

Blau. Will Smith. Blau left that day.

Yeah, we didn't see him after that day.

It was just so much, um, to you, but you say Jada Pinkett wrote a book, right? People putting folks in books and it's not true.

Just the part about early, how she got started, that's where I come in.

Even the nature of her relationship with Tupac.

When Jada moved in with me, we were on Hughes in Culver City. She ran out of the bathroom and she's like, Tupac's here, he's taking a bath. And you know, she came out with deer headlights.

You even got a little wine with, with Whitney Houston.

Well, you know, we went on tour.

Whitney did drugs in front of you?

Yeah. Well, see, OK, you got to remember. You got to remember this. In the '80s, you're on tour. It's sex, rock and roll, drugs.

You said Robin had to come in the room and kind of check you about Whitney because—

Exactly, because it was so wild. Because, you know, Robin would leave the tour, I don't know, a week or whatever. And she'd come back.

All right, winos.

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Hey, Tasha ain't playing on the interviews, boy. Tasha on fire.

Okay, speaking of—

been overkilling it.

And on spot, let's talk about Don Lemon versus Elon Musk. Baby, how you get fired on your day off? Yeah, look, Don Lemon went from CNN, secured the bag, and Elon Musk said, come over here on X and put us on the map because you got some journalistic skills. And Don Lemon being the negro I knew he could be, he said, let me interview you first. And it started off very rocky, very fast. And Elon said, I don't want nothing to do with this. How dare you try to interview me? How dare you try to put me on blast? How dare you question me? I'm the boss. And said, you fired. And we didn't even get the interview yet, but he said, don't worry, I'm still a user of X. I'll be putting it up there. I'm on YouTube. I'm rich thanks to my pal male bosses. It's up and it's stuck. How do you feel about it, Troy?

You know how it is, man. Um, you get in the bed with the devil, man, you wake up with demons. So you gotta be careful, you know what I'm saying? You can't partner with everybody. Like, I think I feel bad for him, but it's like, I feel like as a whole, we as a culture gotta get our own networks. Like, he should ride over to Tasha K Network. You know what I'm saying? Let Tasha host his show. But I think his problem was— I think the problem with Elon was the question that was being asked. Just from seeing some of the questions that he asked, he— Elon didn't expect those type of questions, you know what I'm saying? His drug use with a drug called ketamine or something.

It's a heart sedative.

So boom, that right there, that pissed him off, you know what I'm saying? Being about him being with Trump or whatever and possibly giving Trump money or paying out Trump legal fees. So he didn't want him to be a journalist when it came to his business and his life because they want to keep their business and their life separate and private, you know what I mean? So I think that's what really triggered him, man. It just show you who he is too because that man interviewed you and then you had an agreement, you didn't like the agreement, you know, the way the interview went, you didn't like it, so you broke the contract. That ain't solid.

It's not. And Cigar Blocker, what are your thoughts on this Elon versus Don Lemon versus— is it a marketing stunt? What do you—

yeah, it's all a marketing stunt. Think about it. The show is still gonna air on his platform. He's gonna make money off of it. He's pretending like he's being mad to draw more people in. Like, now everybody wants to see what the big hype's about. So when everybody tunes in and they click on his platform, he's getting money. He's monetizing this whole, this whole made-up beef. He's not losing money, he's making money. Oh, if I want beef sales, if I want to make some money right now, let's just say I started an argument with Tasha K. Me and Tasha K going back and forth, back and forth. People tune in. Yeah, Latasha Kebe reading me for filth, I'm reading her for filth, we going back and forth, everybody tune in, going left, right, left, right, left. When Google pays us, we both, we both sit back probably offline like, yeah, we both made a lot of money this month, didn't we? I'm just saying, I'm not saying that that would happen, but I'm just saying that's what they do. Because I know people that do that on social media. They create fictional beefs, they go back and forth with each other, and they monetize.

You know what he do? He do have that CNN background, right? It was CNN versus Fox News, so that spirit up in him, you know, they like to say because they're real media, they're not messy, baby. They're the messiest of them all, okay?

You watch, when this all boils down, both of them pockets gonna be full.

Oh yeah, absolutely.

Everybody's gonna be tuning in. You watch, both of them gonna be paid behind this.

Paid.

You know what, CNN, his former employer that he had to sue to get money from, they did an article about Musk and him going back and forth about this, about this very same interview.

So if you know, shout out to them connections, right?

If your former employer is doing a story about you and Elon Musk so that they can get some money You know where this is going. It's gonna be millions of dollars made off of this little—

Oh, I'm tuning in. I have to see the questions because from what I saw on that little snippet, shout out to the blogs, shout out to them bloggers doing the work. Listen, when he said the stuff about, you know, the powers that be, I was interested. But, uh, let's get into this clip of Don Lemon versus Elon Musk.

Everyone, Elon Musk is mad at me, and I just put out a statement about what happened between him, me, and the interview that he is apparently so upset about. But make no mistake about this. This is going to be my first episode of The Don Lemon Show this coming Monday, March 18th. So make sure you tune in. This has not changed anything about the show except for my relationship with Elon and X. And there, there's a whole lot that went down. and I'm going to tell you about in the coming days. I know though that many of you were not happy that I was doing this in the first place, and you told me so. I just want you to know that I did this deal because not only do I believe in free speech, but I believed that this was the best possible chance for the work that I'm doing to reach the largest amount of people. So speaking of free speech, right, I thought the first person to interview, no-brainer, Elon Musk, the man who calls himself a free speech absolutist. I asked him him to do it. He willingly agreed to the interview. Throughout our conversation, I kept reiterating to him that although it was tense at times, I thought it was good for people to see and hear our exchange and that they would learn from our conversation, learn more about him, learn more about me. But apparently free speech absolutism doesn't apply when it comes to questions about him from people like me. What did we talk about?

Why is he so upset? Does he even have I have a reason to be upset.

Make sure you watch it on Monday on YouTube and everywhere you listen to podcasts, and you can decide for yourself. You can even watch it on X because I'm still going to post it there, and I'm sure others will as well.

Heck yeah!

Listen, you saw him before I get to you, the Cigar Blogger. He was making his way downtown, walking fast, coffee in hand, in Manhattan City. Okay, yes. What were your thoughts, Cigar Blogger?

Two things I want you to remember from that video. He said he wanted to get this to the largest audience possible. That's one. And he said that Musk has a problem from people asking him questions that look like me, which meant— because he's from South Africa, he's— he grew up in apartheid. He don't like Black people. He likes Black people money, but he don't like Black people. He's from South Africa, old South Africa. So he feels like, who is this, this Kaffir? That's what they call him down there. Who is this Kaffir that has the audacity to question me? That's part of his whole posture the whole time Don Lemon was interviewing him. This, this— here in America they say this N-word, but down there they call them, call it something else. And he probably resented a Black man intelligent Black man questioning him.

I saw you, I saw you perk up, Troy, when, when you heard that.

Yeah, you could see it. Like, I saw a clip where when he was questioning him, Elon drew back. Like, yeah, I don't have to answer those questions. You ask for it, you're gonna be on an X platform. Like, you can, like, what, what the Cigar Blogger is saying is absolutely true. 100%. Like, Elon was like, don't question me, I'm going to ask me to do it because you're on my platform. Remember that, I'm your— I'm your employee. Pretty much how I came off.

Oh, it always goes back to what Kanye West said, no matter how much money you get, you still a— okay, we'll let them fill in the blanks. But moving right along, how do y'all feel about men getting plastic surgery. I mean, look, when Charles, your lunch is ready, went and got his Etch A Sketch abs, baby, the girls was dragging and tagging him. And Miss Neta is over there laying on the table, not changing their diet, but everybody has something to say. And I want to start off with you, Cigar Blogger. How do you feel about the boys getting a nip and tuck?

I'm all for it. I got one in October.

What you had done?

Well, I had a— a couple years ago I had a gastric bypass, so I used to weigh 425 pounds. So I had a lot of loose skin after I lost the weight, so I had to get the skin. Mine wasn't for cosmetic, just I want to look a certain way.

I—

it was health reasons, so I had to get my loose skin removed. So I'm all for it. If you need it, get it. You got the money, you didn't steal the money, go get it.

Troy, you shaking your head. You, you don't think men should be getting plastic surgery?

I ain't say that, but what he just got, like what brother went and did, like, come on, bro. Wow.

You don't consider that plastic surgery?

No, no, no, no, no. He got to go back.

You have the surgery for health reasons or whatever, like, you know, you like, bro, bro was 400 pounds, bro got some surgery to have a better lifestyle, help your lifestyle.

Cool.

But you know when they got an 8-pack? Yeah, man, like a whole honey bun on— like, man, come on.

Yeah, yeah, that don't match right there. That's like, it's like man boobs on top and then you got like, you got like an angry face in the belly and then you still got the love handles and the side titties.

Uh-uh.

No, like, if you gonna get it, get the whole thing, right?

I mean, you won't do it— if you won't do that, go all the way out, go all the way in.

It's dangerous to get so many surgeries at one time. Yeah, you don't get it. I didn't get the— the— he got the abs at the bottom, the breast at the top.

No, he ain't getting no breast done.

The, the construction man arms hanging. I mean, the, the neck rolls. I don't know, I, I feel like when Drake got his surgery, did we make fun of him? Yes, but Drake looked good. When, um, what's that DJ Funkmaster Flex went and showed his lipo 360 I, I don't know. I feel like some of the men want to be bad bitches too, you know. What's wrong? And they are in the— they're in the community now. Y'all know the community.

Yeah, yeah, that's why I'm treading lightly because I don't want to get canceled.

But why you think of your thoughts? We got a clip of Charles. Your lunch is ready. Let's get into it. Okay, how you feeling? Tell the people how this experience has been for you so far. I see you got that— what is that, a 6-pack going on there?

6?

We got 2, 4, 6, 8. That 8-pack is going on there. How you feeling today, Charles? I know that you are 1 day post-op after surgery. How are you feeling right now? Charles got the moves going, y'all.

A little pain, but yeah, I'm still, you know, I'm still doing good and healing good.

Oh, hold on, hold on. I don't— I don't— as a guy that was very, very large, I was obese, I don't fat shame anybody, but I know I got glasses on, but his six-pack was like, bro, was it just me?

One, one box.

Yeah, one, one, one, one, one Twinkie was up here and the other Twinkie was like right here, and then it was like they stair-stepped them. Or was it just me? No, you ain't, you ain't lying.

Okay, okay, I thought it was just me for a minute. I was like, wait a minute, Playboy. Yeah, well, I think it looks like that because he didn't try to at least lose some of the weight. I, I didn't know they could— you know what, where is the board of plastic surgeons a act for these HIPAA violations? Because aren't you supposed to lose some weight before you have surgery?

They want you to, but if you pay, you get what you want.

They tell you all, hey, I honestly believe that they were influencers for this doctor. Like, I really believe, like, this doctor probably promised them to, you know, get them exposure, to do it for free or a discount. Like, I really, I do surgery. Like, for real, I don't know. They paid for that?

No, no, that was free right there because it was a free surgery. Oh my God, what I got was what they call a 180. I got it from hip to hip because they had to remove the, the flap from my abdomen and then my stitching. Yeah, and then re-suture everything. So I wasn't walking around with no six-pack abs, I just got everything tightened. But that right there, he had whole— he had his whole abdomen contoured and it's not even.

And it's like, I mean, you don't have to get a revision on that. When it's free 99, what do you expect?

Like, well, damn, I mean, but still, he can't go on the beach nowhere with that.

I mean, that ain't free though. So you think about it, these platforms is doing numbers no matter what people might say. Yeah, yeah. just by them going on them people, that's. But just by that doctor being on their platform, that's it. They got. They, they paid for it. You know what I'm saying, though? Like, even if it was free, don't mess me up, dog.

No, no, exactly.

Who, who believes you should do what you want to do? A nip in a tuck. Don't y' all go to no free doctor when it's free. Y' all be over there looking like rolling poly from baddies. A mess, You know, every time I— and I do feel like these— do you think he as a man is going to want to have more surgery? We've seen the effects with women. Do you think he's going to have this?

Oh yeah, he's going to get some more. He's going to get some more, definitely.

You saw him doing his little chest and— and he ain't done.

He gonna get his—

he get his—

yeah, he gonna get the love handles done. He's gonna get his, uh, breast done. And all that, all the sides gonna be done. But, uh, yeah, but he's gonna— yeah, and you see he's sitting there all oiled up. Like, you can't tell him he ain't hot.

What's popping?

I told y'all, don't make me sick, okay?

He had all that Crisco oil going, you know.

We don't want the winos to be spitting up their wine now. But moving on to the next topic, let's talk about JT from the City Girls. Is going solo. Do you think the City Girls are over? JT announced she's going on tour, um, she has some festivities. I don't know how she's gonna do it with 2 songs. Do y'all think this is to build up an audience? What are your thoughts? How do you feel about JT? Everybody wanna JT. How do y'all feel about her going on tour? Y'all gonna go see her, man?

I'm 54. What I look like at a concert for a little girl that's younger than my children, right? Uh, so my son's a recording artist, right? So this is what I did. I said, son, before we did this show, I said, come here, let me ask you something. So I looked them up, I watched everything. I said, tell me what's, what's the deal? And he just sat down, he leaned back, he said, he said, you really want to know? I said, yeah. He said, they were in a group, they're probably not going to perform together anymore. He said, the court documents that came out about Diddy Uh, it appears that Young Miami knew everything about the payouts and all this other stuff, that all the accusations that Diddy's dealing with now, she knew about it.

And she's trying to separate herself from—

yeah, that girl trying to get away from that because that's a career killer right there. If you knew that kind of stuff and you didn't speak out, you know, your career is over in the water. And think about it, anybody— have you known anybody that's ever been attached to Diddy that has ever had a successful career and walked off into the sunset?

Yes, Faith Evans.

Hello, Faith Evans.

Faith Evans.

Yes, yes, I did say—

but before, before you respond to that, Cigar Blogger Troy, do you think JT is separating because of the Diddy stuff?

Absolutely. Wouldn't you? I would. She— I would have been there. But I think, too, Flynn, honestly, I think they've been separated even before all of this. Miami went and did that, hey Carisha, shit, it was over with then.

Carisha, please, please.

It was over with then, you know what I mean? But I do, I do feel like this case, you gotta separate. You gotta separate. Like, the house coming down every day is something new with Diddy, you know what I'm saying?

Urban House.

Yeah, you got to get from around that, you know what I'm saying? And you know, you know, Miami know what's going on. Like, yep, that's you, his old lady. You on the yacht, you on the cruises, you on the, you on the plane, the jet.

Scared? Stop it. Okay, I feel like this, um, I wish her nothing but the success, but I also feel like when you was locked up, when you was out here running your schemes and scams and frauds Young Miami was out here screaming Free JT, put the City Girls on her back and was running from pillar to post to make sure y'all was hot. And then when you came out of prison, she made sure you had money in your pockets. Now I feel like if she wants to go solo to see if she has what it takes, sure. But based off of the interviews I've seen, um, JT in, from The Breakfast Club to the Angie Martinez to, um, her at the Caresha Please. I feel like JT's a little lazy. I feel like she thinks because she got that stamp of approval from Nicki Minaj, the girls are just going to buy into what she's selling. But when I look at the both of them, she doesn't put in as much work as Yung Miami. We don't have to like Yung Miami. She is tied to a man who has all these allegations But I feel like when it comes to Black women being tied to Diddy versus the non-Black women, we like to pick and choose. Because Cassie was over there too when he was over there cashing checks and whooping, you know. So I feel like, how do we not know Young Miami's not getting the Cassie treatment? You know, people save face. At least that's what they say about the Cassie. But I get it. I just want them to be successful. I don't know if they're over.

If they are over, they're over.

Best of wishes to them. Wineos, do you think they're over? Would you stay? Would you pay out? Would you ride or die for your sister, or would you leave her in the dust? And it just makes you wonder, because don't Lil Uzi got allegations too?

I ain't really heard nothing besides him being a devil worshipper and all that. I ain't really heard that.

Look, look, when this all boils down, we gonna revisit this and you're gonna say, you know what, that JT girl was the smart one.

Oh, I feel that way too.

When it all boils down and when all these lawsuits and somebody's gonna go to jail, when it all boils down, you can be like, you know what, that girl had it, had it right all along. She got away from it.

Oh, she knows. I didn't know.

No, she knows something ain't right. Yeah, she knew her partner. Now you're on stage with somebody that's supposed to be your friend, you're in a group together. And you knew this person knew all this dirt and they didn't tell you, and then you had to find out about it in court documents. But you know, I'm supposed to rock with you, I'm supposed to have your back, but you didn't trust me enough to tell me what you already knew, uh, probably a year better. No, I'm out. I'm good. If you don't trust me with a secret, I'm gonna trust you in the public.

Come on now. And then it's like, you know, I'm out. Miami, you know, she was going a different lane anyway when she started the podcast and all that. Like, she was, she was doing her thing. She was separating herself anyways, you know what I mean? Unfortunately, she didn't keep the podcast going or whatever. But you know, when you, you with Diddy, Diddy made probably all these promises. He gave her the platforms and get, you know what I'm saying, Reboot TV and all that. But I, I think they've been done, truthfully and honestly. And I think it's the best thing for JT. That girl just got out the feds, like, yeah, she went to jail for doing fraud. Fraud big in Miami. Miami, Atlanta, that's what they do.

Yep.

Really?

Yeah, yeah.

Home of the scammers.

Atlanta is the home of the scammers. I won't go there.

Miami don't play like that's what they do in Miami and they— you know what I'm saying? I'm right, I'm in Palm Beach, so I'm— I ain't too far from it.

I know what's going on. You got a little fraud in you.

No, baby, I can't do that. Okay, I'm scared to fit. I don't play them type of game. I'm scared to fit.

Yes, yes, that girl got out of prison. She don't want to go back.

That's what I was just gonna say. She just—

she don't get away from all kind of trouble. She getting away from it.

Yeah, she's still on probation.

I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

But at the same time, you don't want to catch no new charges.

That's true.

Because when you go back as a second— as a repeat offender You— they gonna throw the book at you the next time. And there are people that didn't learn that lesson, they doing 24 years in prison now. So, oh, you get caught one and they do it like that and you don't learn your lesson, then you go try to do your scam in another state and you catch a 24-year charge.

Oh my. Well, speaking of charges, let's talk about Drake robbing the cradle. Or is he? So Drake was caught up with Brooklyn, aka Latasha's sister. And people are saying, what is the difference between Draya and Jalen Green? How come there was so much outrage for Draya but there's nothing for Drake? And honestly and truly, y'all, I feel like this: if, if you young, hot, and fresh and you want to get to the bag, if you an IG baddie and your name is tied to somebody else and you ain't got a name for yourself, you ain't built no well, go get that bag. What is wrong with securing the bag? I mean, of all the bags to get, why not get Drake's? Why not get a part of some of that Jewish money? What's wrong with getting to the billions he's amassed? Okay, he could put you in positions to win. And quite frankly, I think she's over there to help her sister out, if you let me tell her, you know. You know. But do you have a problem with Drake being 37 and Brooklyn being 22? Starting with you, Troy.

You know, back in the day, y'all, the older men always went for the young ones, you know what I'm saying?

Always.

I don't personally agree with it. Like, I would never go get no 22-year-old because what can a 22-year-old do for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, these dudes really just— like, Drake a sniper, dog. Like, you just look at Drake track record, Drake don't miss, he don't play.

Like, but at the same time, you said sniper and I put that in my head.

Like, check them down, get them, you know what I'm saying?

Like, look at his resume. Like, his resume is solid. Even her, she a nice looking young lady, but it's like, come on, bro, this girl, this a little girl, bro. Like, that's a little girl.

22.

What did you know at 22, man?

What did you know at 22?

Listen, I knew to, to not be with the broke boys. Um, is it— isn't that what they be saying? They say go with the— when you sexy, young, feminine fit, you're supposed to be with the— isn't that what they say? Or all up on the internet, all on the pods? When you young, fresh, feminine fit, a masculine alpha male should be with the best of the cream of the crop.

I'm just— I'm not even messing with you on that.

Yeah.

Listen, I don't have an issue with it as a woman because I do like older men. My ex was an older man. Like, it is what it is. If you're— if you're not being taken advantage of, if you're having a good time— if we already know why Drake is over there, he's there for a good time, not a long time. He just wants some some inspiration. We know he needs something to cry about on the next album. He wants to sing to the women.

He ain't gonna be crying, she gonna be crying.

He gonna—

you know how that goes.

He gonna be on to the next one. He gonna be on to the next one.

Why is it okay for men but not women?

It's a double standard. I don't make the rules, I just win mine. It's a double standard.

What does that mean, Cigar Blogger? Win? You out here with the 22-year-olds?

No, my youngest child turns 21 this year. I don't— if, if I, if I'm old enough to change your diapers at one point, nah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I don't care how cute you are, how cute you think you are, because every woman is pretty when they on their back. So I mean, just let's just be real.

So you just blindly follow the rules?

I have never met an ugly naked woman in my life. And I'll be 55 this year. All of them look like Halle Berry when they're naked, every last one of them. So, oh my God, so you take that to the bank. That's from an old man right here. You ain't never seen an ugly naked woman in your life if you're a straight man. Have you seen an ugly naked woman in your life? Never. All of them look good. All of them look good, especially if they got a job. Especially she got a job too. Oh, she top shelf liquor.

Oh yeah, I mean, I mean, clutch the pearls.

I'm trying to be politically correct here because I don't want to get banned.

And we happy you are being politically correct because I'm trying, I'm really trying.

This is difficult for me.

I don't have a problem with it. I think when it comes to the Drea and the Jalen, I get what they're saying, but he's a young athlete. I thought Jalen was batting for the other team anyways. We've seen that weird video of him, uh, you know, tooting his homeboy up and all that. So I just look at Drea as the surrogate of that baby because— or is he really into her? We don't see them have any type of holding hands, none of that. We just— we see him more involved with that man. Well, you might be in the room.

She might be his beard. You just hit it. And, uh, but if they like it, I love it. I mean, it ain't costing me no money. I'm just looking from the sidelines like, okay, I'm gonna see how many weeks this lasts, you know. Like, look at Michael Jordan was dating Scottie Pippen's son, was dating Scottie Pippen's ex. These people, they change lovers quicker than they change their clothes. So while we talking about it this week, shoot, Saturday might— they might be on to the next one. Or they might already be on to the next one, we just don't know yet. So, um, I don't have a problem with older people, women dating younger guys, or vice versa. If they like it, I love it. It's just that the outside people are the ones that have the issue with it. They don't care. It's the— it's us that care. Not when you say us, I'm talking about everybody that's looking.

Society.

Yeah, society. Oh, he He's dating this young girl, but she's an adult. Oh, he's dating this older woman. They're both grown, they both got a job, they both paying their own bills. Why do we care? Why do we care so much? Why are we so involved in somebody just because they're celebrities? It's people every day that do this, and every— and just regular people, nobody talks about them. Hell, my grandmother was 14 when she married my grandfather. He was 31. But that was back in— that was back in those days, and she had 9 kids for him.

14.

Yeah, and that was his third wife.

I was born in the right time. I wouldn't have made it, okay? This mouth right here is too reckless. They would have been like, look at this. They would have been like, she got that Jezebel spirit because I talk too much. So no, they'll punch you in the lip like And it was a lot— there was a lot to knock women between the washer and dryer back then. It was illegal. But Troy, do you feel like there is a double standard with the men versus the women with the age gap?

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. It's, it's always a double standard when it comes to men and women or whatever, but especially with the age gap, you know what I mean? Because women can get away with it. Oh, and he got a little salt, he got a little salt and pepper in his beard, like they go for that type of stuff. They brag about it, you know what I'm saying?

Even when—

even just being as a child, you know what I'm saying? Even being as a child, seeing how the younger girls getting picked up by the older dudes from school, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been going on, you know what I mean? But it's just the fact that if a man do it, we looked at in a different light, you know what I'm saying? We scrutinize heavily or whatever. And they always talk about the R word, you know what I'm saying? Put a man in jail or whatever. Don't get me wrong, like, don't, don't twist what I'm saying because I don't agree with men dating younger women, especially kids, you know what I'm saying? Because I got a daughter, my daughter 14 years old, and I know for a fact that if I see my daughter with— even at 22 years old dating 37-year-old Drake, I got a question about that, you know what I'm saying? So No, I don't. I do feel like it's a double standard, and I ain't rocking with that one, you know what I mean?

Okay, all right.

We're talking about this two people. Think about this. Bill Murray is dating Khalees, and he's almost 80-something years old, and she's—

she, she needs somebody to take care of.

No, she knows she marries him and he dropped dead, she gonna have a whole stash of money.

Nobody's nothing wrong with that. Nobody— get in your bag. Y'all already know I'mma tell— I'mma always tell the girls, get in your bag. But speaking of getting in your bag, wine notes, we need y'all to raise y'all wine glasses so we can pay the bills so Tasha Kai can run it up. Let's get into them endorsements now.

Introduce who you are. So you a Laverne witch?

Yes.

Okay, you've been behind the scenes in Hollywood for almost 30 years? Yeah. Okay, and do you mind if I mention Who referred you?

I don't mind at all.

Bilal.

Bilal, yeah. And we worked together on that same set.

What?

Yeah, so one day he was gone.

We're talking about the set.

There was a couch and Will was bent over on the couch and Dwyane was standing up killing him. Murder, like murder. It was murder in there.

LisaRaye was there. Dwyane Martin.

You.

Bilal.

Will Smith. Bilal left that day.

Yeah, we didn't see him after that day.

There's just so much, um, uh, to you, but you say Jada Pinkett wrote a book, right? People putting folks in books and it's not true.

Just the part about early, how she got started, that's where I come in.

Even the nature of her relationship with Tupac.

When Jada moved in with me, we were on Hughes in Culver City. She ran ran out of the bathroom and she's like, Tupac's here, he's taking a bath. And you know, she came out with deer headlights.

You even got a little wine with Whitney Houston.

Well, you know, we went on tour.

Whitney did drugs in front of you?

Yeah, we'll see. Okay, you gotta remember, you gotta remember this. In the '80s, you're on tour, it's sex, rock and roll, drugs.

You said Robin had to come in the room and kind of check you about Whitney because exactly 'Cause it was so wild because, you know, Robin would leave the tour, I don't know, a week or whatever, and she'd come back.

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I don't know what it's about to be, but I feel like it's about control. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can— you controlling it. Because even when TikTok— when every— when Facebook and everything else went down, TikTok didn't go down. You know what I'm saying? Like, it sure didn't. Yeah, they want— they want to control TikTok because they already got control over Facebook, Instagram, because they got control over Mark Zuckerberg. You feel me? So it's all about control. But they take— or you take time to learn how to cook. I go on there and look up recipes and all that good stuff, man.

Like, it took TikTok for you to learn how to cook?

I mean, I know how to cook, but I had to learn— I learned some more stuff, man, you know what I mean? TikTok, TikTok a tool, bro. Like, it's control, man. TikTok is all about control.

That's really control. Cigar Blogger, what are your thoughts on TikTok in this future ban?

Like he said, it's all about control. Think about it, when all those other social media platforms crashed. What, what was happening that day it crashed? It was Super Tuesday. We were voting. They were voting in the primaries. And mysteriously, all of those platforms crashed at the height of people across this country— it was 15 states during Super Tuesday voting— and those platforms crashed. And TikTok didn't crash. And like he said, it's all about control. You have to look at what's really going on. They don't have control of TikTok. Like they do with Zuckerberg and his platform. It's all about this and control. You control— if you control the media, you control the country. If you control what people see and hear, you control the country. TikTok is a free standalone platform. They can't control what goes on it or what comes off it. So people, you know, about stuff going on across the world that you would never get to see on the other platform because they ban stuff or they censor it. They don't censor TikTok.

TikTok is not a— look, I'm not on TikTok. Um, to me it's like, it's goofy, it's a lot. But I do feel like this, I do think it's about the money, and TikTok did not want to play ball. And because they play ball, um, they're being iced out. And this is why it's so important for our young men and women and our older men and women to go out there and vote. You know what I've been saying as a TikTok creator? I would have been like, baby, they trying to stop our bag. They trying to get in our bag. I'm telling you right now, I will not vote, and I will be screaming it from the rooftops about who is in my state if you vote, uh, to ban TikTok. And I will be putting it out there with the pictures. I know y'all can do that because I've seen the videos. They always come across my timeline or on any platform. I will be out there with the X, Y, to the Z. And I feel like a lot of TikTok users are not using that platform to vocalize what's going on because once you're in your senator's pocket, you got them. And they want to make that money and they want your vote. So use it to your best benefit. To me, I don't know if it's a dangerous tool or not, but I never got with it, not ever. Um, especially how I feel like they do some of the Black content creators versus the non-Black creators. But I don't want nobody to miss out on a bag. I'm always for get your bag, baby, get your bag. Are y'all on TikTok?

I am. And that's what I was about to tell you, the funniest thing that happened to me. I did 2 videos on TikTok just playing around with it. Um, the cops were doing a drug raid and I put the video up and I was making my commentary, cracking jokes. That video got me 250,000 views. I did another one with these two drug dealers, they getting chased by the cops and they dropped their stuff in, in this abandoned lot, and I videotape them and clowning them because they came back looking for their money and they dope. I got 500,000 views off that little TikTok video.

Now she working for the feds.

And then everybody was in the comments, oh, you the op, you the snitch, you did I said, no, these fools were getting chased by the cops. I happened to be on the street when they got chased down the street, and I put my phone out and I recorded. And then I had this gay dude and his boyfriend, they ran out of gas in the entrance to the gas station, and they were screaming for people to help them because they were both drunk. And I'm like, only in Cleveland would this happen. I did, and that one got me 125,000 views. So I mean, it's easy to monetize. Like you said, the minority content creators Soon as you get too big, your channel mysteriously disappears.

So we need them banned anyways. They acting like the ops anyways. Um, I see where a lot of people are saying national security and all this other stuff. Yeah, we could go with it, right? But anytime you sign up for the app, they're out here selling your information. Didn't Mark Zuckerberg get caught up with that? So I don't believe that's a problem. I really think it has to to do with the money and them not playing ball. We saw TikTok lose the Universal Music Group. We've seen these celebrities, these artists, these influencers screaming how they think it's unfair. And Troy, you said you have TikTok as well?

Yes.

Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do.

Are you running up the numbers over there on the tickety-tock?

No, because I don't really use it like that. I go on there and I just, I stroll or whatever, um, and, you know, look up how to do or look up recipes or stuff like that. But it's, it's, to me, I know that it's, um, more so of control. Like, you can't trust the government, dog. Like, they had us down here in Florida burning, talking about get rid of your orange trees, you feel me? So y'all burnt— everybody had to get rid of their orange trees. They was burning your orange trees down and taking them out your yard just so y'all can sell us fake orange with no seeds. You know what I'm saying? So I don't trust the government. Like, yeah, they say, they say, oh, national security, but everybody saw our information. Even Google doing— yes, everybody's selling our information no matter what you do. Everything requires us to give us our first name, last name, email address, date of birth, date of birth.

Oh yes, because remember the MetaPlace, they say you got to put your real name. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. With those— get the money, stay long, Jessica.

Okay, the thing about it is too, like, I know I've seen some things where they say like China, over, over in China, the stuff that we see on our TikTok platform, they don't see on there. Like, there it's more educational. I don't even know if that's true. I don't really believe that either, you feel me? But TikTok lit, man. TikTok. You know what, different news that we can't see here. Like the news going— like on your regular local news station, they gonna censor a lot of news. They're not gonna put everything out. But you go on TikTok and you type in that subject, oh, it's up. They telling you everything. You got personal journalists, everybody giving you the real rundown. Like, you don't really get about that boring— I ain't gonna even go down there, man.

Look, I feel like this. TikTok is lit because we got the Reese Atisa story from there. We got, uh, yeah, more overseas on there. We're gonna keep it monetized, you know, monetized friendly, because, uh, Tasha K needs all her sponsors. Although, um, I think it is a great tool. I believe there is some dangerous parts about it, but I don't know all the ins and outs because who can we trust? You really can't trust nobody. They say one is bad just so the other can flourish.

But exactly, it's a money game.

You are an app developer or maker, now is your time to get to the money because baby, they got TikTok back against the wall. I've never seen a TikTok creator come out ever, and then now all of a sudden he's speaking and he wants to do a message to the people. So I feel they all playing games if you let me tell it. They all playing games, honestly and truly. They're Cigar Blogger, what did you have to say?

If you look, you got some of the apps that require your face recognition. They do face recognition. Um, you looking at— I have been on Facebook and type in on my Google search, I might be looking up a recipe for, uh, Kung Pao chicken. Next thing I know, I go back to Facebook and all in my news feed is Kung Pao chicken. I'm like, how in the heck They sell your information. Oh, so if you see a lot of stuff coming up in your Facebook newsfeed, they, they are looking at your Google searches and then it is migrated right over there because they sell your information back and forth.

Do you think that's happening?

And all them Instagram nude models popping up in your newsfeed because they know you nasty. Oh, I'm sorry.

Target marketing. Target marketing.

That's it. That's the term.

Target marketing. So do you think, um, they're doing that over there on TikTok? When you search something, do a whole bunch of it pop up? The same thing.

They give you suggestions about, oh, you might like this profile, you might like this person, you might like this content. It's the algorithm. That's all it is, the algorithm. They know what your search history is like. So they start feeding you stuff that they know you like to look at.

That's it.

Yep.

Yeah, one or the other. So are y'all here for the TikTok ban, yes or no?

No, because the Supreme Court gonna toss it out once it makes it to the Supreme Court. It's freedom of speech.

It's a Chinese app from China.

Don't matter, American citizens are using it. We have a right in this country of freedom of speech. An expression, and that's all right. You can't infringe upon that.

Oh, they gonna, they gonna make TikTok bow down then, baby, because in order to play ball in America, you have to— they need a, they need a percentage. My job, we being audited right now, and it's all about where they can find that. They looking for that money. We didn't gave money away, so they got to make their money somehow, and TikTok I'm here to tell you right now, either play ball or you'll be banned. That's how I feel about it. But moving on, let's get into our final topic of the day. Bishop Lamar Whitehead is found guilty, guilty, guilty. Bishop Bling Bling is going to be getting sentenced in July of this year because, baby, they said you was out here committing fraud. He just stole all that money from that elderly woman. He was in there getting caught up with only $6 in his bank account, and he had the nerve to have on the latest and greatest Fendi, Louis Vuitton, Prada, Gucci, Dior, YSL with a church in the hood. Baby, it don't get no better. I'm gonna start off with you, Cigar Blogger, because you have firsthand knowledge about Bishop Bling Bling.

Yeah, because I've talked to him on the phone a couple times. I talked to him the first— last time I talked to him was the first day of his trial. Um, uh, obviously him and Tasha are not on good terms, but God bless America. Uh, but I don't— I'm not here to say whether he's guilty or not because I wasn't there. But what I will say, if he's guilty, he gotta— he gotta pay the penalty. Um, he's facing up to 45 years in prison, anywhere from 20 to 45 years. Um, and the fact that he has a prior criminal history is going to weigh heavily in that sentencing. Uh, I find it odd that he can be brought to trial so quickly, and here we have a guy that's running for president with 91 counts, and he hadn't even, um, put his hand up to do anything yet. So it's very interesting. It's just, it's two justice systems, one for them, one for us.

So, uh, but that's why you have to be the best representation of you because Bitch of bling bling.

What did y'all say?

Quiet luxury, baby. He had the Fendi Louis products. He was hood rich.

He was hood rich. He was hood rich. Now he was hood rich. Uh, there's videos out there, social media, of him walking through his closet showing off those clothes and jewels and cars.

The prayer closet.

Yeah, yeah, the prayer closet. When you move— when you moving like that, you need to move in silence.

Ooh.

I had the pleasure when I lived in New York, and I didn't even know who the man was until I walked away. I was playing chess in the park with Frank Lucas and didn't even know it until I walked away. They said, you know who that was? You were sitting there playing chess. I said no. And they told me, I said, you lying. Frank Lucas was sitting in the park, unassuming, regular clothes. He wasn't flashy, just playing chess, shooting the breeze. I played with him a couple times, didn't even know who he was until the last time I saw him. He was never flashy. The one time he got flashy was when he got popped. If you watch American Gangster, when he was at that Ali, uh, Frazier fight, he had on that fur coat. That's what got him popped. When you flashy, you get popped.

Troy, what are your thoughts on Bishop Bling Bling?

He was doing too much, man.

Like, you know what I'm saying? You, you a bishop, you, you over a congregation, you, you supposed to be this pastor, man. You gotta He was too fleshy, you know what I'm saying? It was too flesh, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, the word say come from among, come from among thee, you know what I'm saying? It can't be— you doing way too much to be a pastor. And it's like, then you, you taking money from people in your church, like you defrauding your church members, allegedly, you know what I'm saying?

Like, not allegedly, he was found guilty.

Yeah, he was found guilty, so I could say that.

Transactional reports. He was in the email, he was on the voice note. He told that lady, I can get you a house, and took her house and bought more bling bling.

You know what I'm saying? Like, he— what he— whatever he finna get, he deserves. You know what I'm saying? Like, we gotta— we gotta do right, though. Like, we— we cannot be out here just—

you—

I don't— I'm not— I'm not for fraud, but okay, you defraud the system in the corporate, cool. When you come to your community, you're doing it to your community. You're using your influence as, um, a way to, to steer from the people that really trust you and believe in you. You up here every Sunday preaching the word or whatever. Nah, bro, I ain't rocking with that. So whatever happened to him, man, may God be with him, you know what I'm saying? He better, he better get on his knees and repent and, you know, go before the Lord and get that right.

You know, he needs a jail now.

Oh, listen, well, here's my question. Do y'all think he was being targeted because he has connections to Mayor Eric Adams?

Yes, that's what they really want. That's who they really want to bring down is the mayor.

Yeah, if they get him, they get— yeah, yeah, he—

that's who— Whitehead is just a pawn in this big game. They want the mayor. He used to be the head chief of police. And now he's mayor. He's a— in New— in the state of New York, he's probably one of the top 5 most powerful people in the entire state. He could easily run for governor or senator next.

Well, not into that— not into that essay allegation clear up that, uh, yeah.

So I mean, they, they really want him. Now, Whitehead with the cop a deal, because Whitehead— I saw an article yesterday He already said, I'm not snitching on Mayor Adams. It was a quote by him. I'm not snitching on Mayor Adams. Because you know the feds gonna pull him in and say, look, we'll knock some of this time off.

Absolutely.

They gonna squeeze him. That's how the feds do.

Listen, I'm telling y'all right now, I'm not going to be inmate nothing, Orange Is the New Black. I'm telling you, that's why I don't commit crimes. I, I can't do it. I, I'm one of them. Do the crime on your own time.

I get you, but you cannot even be doing nothing and get caught up. You could just be like the three of us. I get caught, and because you are affiliated with me, they throw some charges on you hoping that you can tell on me and get more dirt on me because they can't.

I'm gonna be like this. Y'all know I don't know that man. And then I'm going after— I'm going after the PD and the prosecutors and the DA.

But you're gonna be doing all that from jail. You already gonna be in jail. The first story we just did, that woman had 50 people up under her. How do you think they got her? They got the bottom person and they flipped, and it just worked their way up the chain until they got her. She was the mastermind, but they didn't come after her first. They got the bottom people. That's how they do when the feds— the feds watch you for a year to 2 years before they even come get you. They stack up their, their audio, their everything, all their evidence. So when they hit you, they hit you with at least 10 counts. So even if you beat a couple of them, they still gonna get one or two to stick. So you still going to jail.

Yeah, the feds, they, they try to—

the best rate is over 95% conviction. When the feds get you, you pretty much going to jail unless it's a miracle.

In the state of New York, their Fed rate is 99%. So the fact that he took it to trial, he was found guilty— baby, they gonna throw the book at you because they use the taxpayers' resources. New York is a strange— especially New York City is a strange place. Like, they don't play. They won't clean up them rats that are the size of poodles, but baby, when they want to throw the book at you, they gonna do it.

I, I don't understand.

It's dirty, but they want you to play clean. Trust me, it's a nasty state. But again, to you, Troy, do you feel like they are only going after him for Mayor Eric Adams?

Yeah, I mean, you gotta think about it, man. They gotta knock the house down, so you can't go to the top, knock the house down, because the top is clean, clean up their tracks. But you start down the low level and you start knocking down at the low level and you work your way up, you gonna get your man, you know what I'm saying? So it's, it's a, um, that's where the RICO act come in at eventually. That's it. So they gotta, they gotta do their work. The feds, like, like bro said, the feds don't— they ain't just coming in sloppy. The feds, years, they build their case up for years. They watching, they watching who he on the phone with, who who he going to lunch with. Oh, the work that the feds do is nasty because when they hit you, you're gonna wish like hell you never did what you did.

But I go back to what y'all said, like, look what he was wearing— Gucci, Louis Prada— who love Bishop in the hood, you know. You got hood, he was hood curtains. You didn't even have the decency to put real hangers up there. Like real rod work, you know, thumbtack curtains. You got people in the parishioner— the parishioner's giving you $90,000 because you gonna teach him how to flip a house or something, he said. Just everything about it was scheming and scamming and defrauding. And he really thought he was gonna walk away.

You in a Rolls-Royce with a drop-top, you got the big Cuban bust-down Cuban on. Like, bro, you way too flashy and flashy.

Got at least $10 million in it, bro.

It was crazy. I seen that. Like, man, please misleading, man. He gotta be quiet, bro. You gotta move in silence. You do what you do, but move in silence, bro. I know some people really living like that and they ain't, they ain't, they ain't loud and been out here. I know somebody now who been out here since 7th grade, ain't loud. Since he's been in 7th grade, out of middle school. Ain't loud about nothing.

What you just heard from, uh, Troy is a fictitious story because we don't know anything about that. We're just trying to entertain. We are entertainers up here, just in case. It's not loud.

Well, I know quite a few people.

We can talk about them. Oh, please stop.

No, I do feel like these— I do think when he decided to go against Uh, allegedly Larry Reed. I believe everything that was said, that Larry called them people and them people paid. He did. This is why you have to know who your opponent is, know who your enemy is, because people do not fight fair. And as you could see, New York was waiting for someone to flip, waiting, because the way they snatched him up so quickly, so fast baby, this case, it's only been not even a full year.

They've been watching him longer.

They prosecute fast, everything.

And you decided to fight with Larry, and Larry called them people.

Yeah, when you call them people, you have to also know that somebody gonna call them people on you one someday.

Hey, you dig a pit, you'll fall in it.

That's right. The hole you dig for me is one for you too.

It's sad. It's unfortunate. I'm praying for his children because his wife and his kids, man. Yeah, his children, they don't deserve— listen, uh, I had a friend who was in the feds, and seeing her cry behind that— look, I was one of them. I brought her lip gloss. And me and the correctional guards was about to fight because I said she can't handle that class. They was like, what you trying to do? I was ready. But you got to understand, if you put yourself in those type of situations, what do you think is going to happen? You was out here in the Rolls-Royce, the Maybach, you out here fighting the women in the church, you knocking them upside the head, you out here popping your ish on the Instagram. Like, when you fighting them people them alphabet boys. Sometimes you gotta lay low, clean it up. You gotta be in, in the, in the courtroom in your, in your black non-label suit.

Well, he did. He didn't go to court.

It's fake. I would say it's all fake.

He didn't go to court dressed like that. He didn't go to court dressed like that. He was very dressed down. He was way—

and now look at him. He, he fighting for his life. Come July. Are y'all gonna go out to New York to interview to see what's going on for the sentencing?

I'm gonna call him. Let me see how he doing. I'm gonna give him a call.

Look at you being a good friend.

I mean, I ain't got no beef with him. I don't. I really don't.

I think he's very entertaining, but this is unfortunate. I wonder if he's gonna do a sit-down with Tasha K. That would be—

that would be—

break the internet.

That would break the internet.

That would break the internet. Yeah.

That—

now that would be a cat.

Come over here and break the internet.

That would break the internet. That would break the internet, especially with, you know, the history with them. Oh man, that would be—

tell it all. You are a black man. We want to hear your story. You want to hear your story?

That would be a good one, Tasha. Call him. Hey, that would be a good one. You couldn't tell me that everybody wouldn't tune in for that. Everybody would want to hear that one.

Yeah, and he has to be honest. I mean, getting, getting the conviction, she got to go to New York. Okay, she's on her comedy tour. Bishop Bling Bling, sit down with Tasha K.

Yeah, the two of them sitting down.

Oh God, pull up, Bishop. We want to hear your side of the story before you go in.

But coming to an end, y'all. This was Amazing. We're gonna do one more commercial break and then we're gonna close out with our guests' platforms where you can find them. So let's get into that commercial break.

Introduce who you are. So you're a Laverne Witch?

Yes.

Okay, you've been behind the scenes in Hollywood for almost 30 years?

Yeah.

Okay, and do you mind if I mention who, who referred you?

I don't mind at all.

Bilal.

Bilal, yeah. And we work together on that same set.

What?

Yeah, so one day he was gone.

We're talking about the set.

There was a couch and, um, Will was bent over on the couch and Dwayne was standing up killing him. Murder, like murder. It was murder in there.

LisaRaye was there. Dwayne Martin.

You.

Will Smith. Bilal left that day.

Yeah, we didn't see him after that day.

It's just so much um, uh, to you. But you say Jada Pinkett wrote a book, right? People putting folks in books and it's not true.

Just the part about early, how she got started, that's where I come in.

Even the nature of a relationship with Tupac.

When Jada moved in with me, we were on Hughes in Culver City. She ran out of the bathroom and she's like, Tupac's here, he's taking a bath. And you know, she came out with deer headlights.

You You even got a little wine with Whitney Houston.

Well, you know, we went on tour.

Whitney did drugs in front of you?

Yeah.

Well, see, OK, you got to remember.

You got to remember this.

In the '80s, you're on tour. It's sex, rock and roll, drugs.

You said Robin had to come in the room and kind of check you about Whitney because—

Exactly, because it was so wild. Because, you know, Robin would leave the tour, I don't know, a week or whatever, and she'd come back.

All right, winos, if you enjoy shows like this and would like to see more with me on stage in your city, well, I'm coming. Tickets on sale right now, link in the description box as well as the bio. Hurry up now while tickets last, okay?

Yes, make sure y'all tune in to tashaklive.com so you can get that exclusive content. Let's push Tasha K to interview all the people, the people we want to see, and I definitely want to see that interview because it's going to be everything. April 14th, she's going to be in Baltimore, Maryland. Shout out to the B-Mark crew! Get your tickets at tashakonstage.com, baby. You never know who's going to be pulling up in a city near you. Now before we end this beautiful Wine Is the New Tea, starting with Troy, how can they find you?

Oh yeah, you can find me on, um, on your Instagram YouTube and, uh, Facebook on Talk with TP Show. And on Instagram, I also got a personal page, Troy Patrick Realtor, all one word. And you can also follow my family page with Fun with the Patricks. That's Fun with a P-H-U-N with the Patricks on all platforms.

Yes. And now to the Cigar Blogger, how can they follow you?

If you really want to hear me cut up and not be politically correct, go to YouTube and just type in Cigar Blogger. The Cigar Vlogger on YouTube, but my website is right below this here. Uh, more entertainment. I'm a filmmaker. Um, I do documentaries, music videos, and feature films.

Yes, that's awesome! And listen, y'all already know how y'all can find me. I am Kotori Bey on YouTube, your favorite blogger's favorite blogger, pop culture phenom. We have a meet and greet coming up April 26th through the 28th. I cannot wait to see you guys there. It's gonna be lit in Yes, but thank y'all for tuning into this awesome Wine Is the New Tea every Tuesday and Thursdays, 12 PM Eastern Standard Time. You never know who's gonna pop up in the wine cellar spilling that good wine. And wrap us up, y'all, we had a great time. Drop those wine glasses in the chat. Hey. Mm-hmm.