BREAKING | Diddy Jury Reaches a Partial Verdict on 4 Counts! | Live At The CourtHouse

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Without you.

I don't know where you'd be either.

That's not a—

that's an eviction notice?

What the hell?

Okay, so I'm the source of all of our problems or something?

I've been here less than 5 minutes and problem.

Where's Malcolm? Malcolm, where's my money? I have noticed you're behind on the rent. Is there anything I can do to lighten the load?

Lighten the load? I'm calling to let you know that you are out of line.

Check your Cash App.

What?

You're not gonna do it, are you?

Tanya. It's not the time for jokes, Keith. Malcolm, I need my money. I'm not a TV bitch.

I'm a bitch that's on TV. You understand that? I'm not one of these TV fucking bitches. Like, no bitch, I will rag you off camera. I don't even want the TV moment. I really want you to know what time I'm on.

Cuz if I don't get a 'I'm sorry,' I'mma stomp it out. Turn the fuck camera off! Fuck this shit, bro! The fuck? They almost took me down. They was too heavy. What brings you in, Travis? Say something to me!

I'm sorry.

Better question, what are you going through? We're not fucking, Travis. So what do you do for sex? It's called life. Life? Or wife?

What's up, T?

I can't find any groundbreaking stories. This stuff is like Groundhog Day. Nothing new has came up. I do have a When we start the show, keep it clean.

Okay, but you know the rumors out there, right?

I don't give a damn about the rumors.

About Shorty. Can't anything be traced back to you? I mean, I do help with little things here and there. Like what?

What, you paying her rent?

Look at it this way.

We are getting older and not so attractive. More so you than me.

What better way than to pull the wool over your eyes than sex?

So what the fuck happened again? The bitch set me up with a trans and I didn't even know it.

Oh Lord Jesus.

So is it true?

The blogs and their unending desire to ruin our relationship.

So why is that picture of you with some bitch in a hair salon, Travis?

I said I'm gonna go in the clay room. Now mind you, when I'm in this clay room, playroom.

I said, this nigga come in here in the next 2 minutes with fully dressed telling me to go, he's gay.

Is this true?

How you gonna ask me something like that?

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I'm doing quite well, thank you. Thanks for having me on.

Anytime. Watching the World 777. How long you been waiting for us down there? I'm so sorry.

Over an hour. It's okay.

I'm sorry. I am sorry. So listen, hold tight. We're going to go ahead and introduce our lawyer that I'm sure you probably— do you know Jay Carter?

Maybe when I see her.

Have you guys met? Because she's been down there at the courthouse as well too. I don't think she's there today, but she's been sitting in on the trial as well. So we're gonna go ahead and introduce, uh, Jay Carter with the Black Lawyers Podcast. She's going to be joining us as well too. How you doing, Jay Carter? You're muted, mama, you're muted.

Hi, Tasha. Hi, everybody. Hi, Winos. I'm actually a Winos, so it's interesting to be—

shout out to the Winos.

We like that.

Yes, we love that, we love that. I'm gonna go ahead and bring Mel back in here so all three of us can go ahead and get into the specifics. Um, is there any way we can reposition their cameras real quick? Yeah, can you guys move your cameras down? Are you able to move your camera down, Mel, so we can all— yeah, there you go. Jay Carter, Mel, are you able to reposition or no?

Is that good?

A little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more.

How about that?

All right. Okay. Now, you know, we don't usually run these like CNN-style MSNBC Lives, you know what I'm saying? We have a different structure over here, but I said, why not? It's the first time for everything. So I'm glad to have you both. You guys have both been down there really putting in the work. There's some feedback. Who's giving me feedback real quick? Who's giving me feedback? Okay. All right. So you guys have been down there really putting in work and observing what's been going on. Over 7 weeks. And so real quick, Mel, you're down there now, okay? And jury deliberations started yesterday, and already I hear that the jury is, is up in arms. They're passing all types of notes and stuff like that. Can you give us some insight on what's going on in that courtroom with that judge and them jurors down there fighting?

Yeah, yesterday morning, you know that the judge gave the jury their instructions. And so after they left and went to deliberate, they came back with a statement saying that one of the jurors refused to follow the instructions of the judge. Okay. So right before day closing, they asked the question about drug distribution. In other words, if you ask me for a Percocet and I give you one, is that drug distribution. And the short answer, the short answer of that, according to the prosecutors and according to the judge instruction, is that it is.

So that's a problem because when you look at the verdict form, um, that's kind of one of the questions that they have on the verdict form to determine whether or not he's guilty or not guilty for that particular offense.

Yes, it's one of the predicate acts. For the RICO.

Okay, what were you saying, Jay Carter?

I was saying, so that's one of the predicate acts. So in order to find a RICO, all they have to do is find that he did 2 crimes within 10 years, but there's specific crimes, and drug distribution is one of them. The other one is transportation of prostitution, sex trafficking, forced labor, witness tampering, bribery.

Hold on for a second, Jay Carter, we're getting some Jay Carter, hold on for a second. We're getting, we're getting some feedback, your Wi-Fi issues. Slow down just a second. Are you on, are you connected to a Wi-Fi router? Because we really need to hear this information, like for real. Are you connected to a Wi-Fi router? Go ahead and give me, hey, my name is Jay Carter real quick. Okay, what I'm gonna do. Yeah, okay. So what I'm gonna have you do, and I'm gonna continue to talk to Mel for a second, is you're gonna pop back out and pop back in using that same link, okay? And then we'll bring you back up when Jasmine sent you backstage. Could you get Adrian on standby to help with people backstage for me? Could you have Tiffany get with Adrian? All right, Mel. So that's— go over exactly, pick up what Jay was saying.

So in order to have him convicted of racketeering, which is count number 1, they went through 8 predicates. There's 8 predicate acts. One is drug distribution, Another one is kidnapping, and they tried to tie that to Capricorn Clark. You also have, uh, uh, aiding and abetting when it comes to, uh, let's see, arson when it comes to Kid Cudi. And there are several others of those, uh, predicate acts.

But I thought that they weren't going to argue those. Didn't they send in a note to the judge saying that they weren't going to focus on the arson and the kidnapping and all that stuff in their closing arguments?

Well, that wasn't true. The ones that they dropped were the attempting kidnapping, attempted arson. It wasn't the underlying count or predicate act.

Okay. Okay. Well, I'm glad we cleared that up because, you know, listen, I'm not down there following it. You guys are. I don't want to pretend like, you know, I have information that I don't have. And so that's why I kind of rely on you guys to correct that. And so Um, I want— I do want to say something because we do got to get Jay Carter, uh, back in here. Um, so we're working on getting her in here because she's an actual lawyer as well. And so over the last, uh, 7 weeks, um, I guess what now with the jury deliberating, in your opinion, short and sweet, how do you think it's gonna go? Because I don't think it's going the way that the prosecution is hoping that it would go because we're already in day 2 and they're still having issues with the jury, which in my opinion is a good sign, right?

Just so you know, that is a possibility. I think at best you might have a hung jury, but as far as having everybody come back saying he's not guilty, I think it's a shot in the dark. Just so you know, we're having a fight across the street, so it's a little distracting, but What kind of fight going down down there?

Who's fighting?

Oh, they're fighting every day over line issues and everything else. So just so you know, that's what's distracting. But to get back to your particular point, the prosecutors have been laying down a solid case, believe it or not. They've been through each of these predicate acts and they've broken it down. There are some that are a little shaky. Let's say, for instance, the arson, When they boiled it down, it was a lady that DNA on the bottle for the Molotov cocktail. So they never could really tie that to Diddy. So there are some that are loose, but for the most part, they've proven their case.

So you feel as a, you know, after watching it for 7 weeks, that the prosecution has pretty much proved that Diddy is guilty of all of the things that they've accused him of?

For the most part. Let me give you an example. Sex trafficking with force, fraud, and coercion. It could have been just one of those that they broke down. They broke down all three.

How? Elaborate.

Okay, when it comes to force, they have the video. They show you the leak from CNN. They show you that Diddy is showing force. Cassie took the stand. I saw her personally. She talked about how that day She was involved in a freak-off. Diddy punched her in the eye. He went to use the bathroom. She made a run for it down the hall. Then you see her in the video. Diddy comes down the hall behind her and he's starting to drag her back. If that's not force, then what do you call force? Okay, fraud is this one, and I think it's going to affect all men in America. Diddy would promise Jane Doe that if she fly to Miami where he was, he was winding down a really sweet And so she's saying on her airplane ride through Wi-Fi, she's saying, well, I don't want to have a freak-off with these strange men. Simultaneously, the Fed shows a chart, and they have documented everything. And when I tell you they document everything they do, they show simultaneously Diddy has ordered a sex worker when he's telling her, I'm not gonna do this to you. And he's ordering this sex worker. She gets to Miami And he throws up. They call this— okay, they call this fraud. So they call this fraud because he told her a material fact that he wasn't going to do this to her. So the defense stood up and they said, listen, this is what we're concerned— the prosecutors are trying to show that we have— they have her diary where she says Diddy is a pathological liar. So her state of mind shows that she felt like he was deceiving her. So that shows you fraud. So if a man is making promises to women and don't deliver, and maybe try to throw them into an orgy or something like that, you're going to be in hot water. The other one, the last one, is coercion. Okay, you want me to explain?

Yes, please, please. Is Jay Carter back? We can pop her back in, but go ahead and explain coercion.

Okay, sex trafficking with coercion. They started off with Cassie. They showed that she— when she met Diddy, she, um, she became his artist. He did a 10-year contract, 10 albums with her. Basically, she did one album and then he threw her into this back-to-back cycle for 10 years of freak-offs, sometimes with 4 men for 4 days straight with no food, no sleep, just a bunch of drugs. So that's coercion because they're saying he took away her ability to make money and then she couldn't really leave. She had no other choice to be involved in this freak-off, right? The other one is with Jane Doe, and I'll be brief. Jane Doe, did he spend $10,000 a month for her rent even to this day? $10,000. He even paid for her attorney during this trial. So the argument is, right, this is the argument that— excuse me, step back. Okay, the, the argument is that she, she couldn't— he's actively paying her rent, and the argument is she can't leave because if she stopped doing the free calls, she's gonna be out in the street.

And we're talking about the 30-year-old— we're talking about the 38-year-old Jane Doe, right? Right. The one that has only dated high-profile celebrities and been taken care of by the high-profile celebrities, right?

The one that gets $4,700 a month in child support, correct.

And so between, um, Diddy and her baby father, she get about $15,000 a month, right?

Yes.

To sell pussy, right? Okay, Carter, that ain't got nothing to do with you, Mel. I'm just, I'm just That's just mine.

Real quiet on that one.

That was like, listen, so guys, I'm out here on the street and people are walking up on me, so just so you know.

Well, tell them you live with Tasha K.

Let them know.

Aya J Carter, welcome back. How you doing?

I'm, I'm great. Um, okay, I think Mel did a great job kind of breaking down why they can get to their charges, but here is why it can go left. And I think some of your— I think some of your winos have already said it. At the end of the day, you have to get 12— not 1, not 2, not 3, not 6, not 11— 12 people to all agree. And so Mel is in there listening to all the legal analysis. He seems to be very reasonable. But I'm gonna be honest with you, sitting in there looking at the jury, even being around the people in the overflow room, They're not buying it. They are not buying a lot of the prosecutor— the way that their expressions are, the way they react, the way they look in the audience. They, they— there is reasonable doubt. And so while Mel is correct, I think he did a beautiful job analyzing how you get to RICO, how you get to, uh, the, the violation of the Mann Act, which is the transportation to engage prostitution, how you get to sex trafficking, right? Those are the three main charges. If a juror who is not necessarily as reasonable— you know, most of the— I don't think any of them have a legal background. You know, these are going to be— these are common people deciding this. So if we don't get all 12, Mel can be absolutely right in all of his analysis, but if they don't see it that way, you're gonna get a— you're gonna get what they call a hung jury.

The other thing I wanted to mention, but he opened up saying that he feels like it's, it's going to be a hung jury because of all the issues that's going on now with the jury. I don't think that they're going to come out unanimously. I just don't.

Right. And if they do, I don't know if Mel agrees, but if they do come out unanimous on anything, it may be the, uh, the violation of the Mann Act, which is the transportation to engage in prostitution. That's the only place where I feel like the prosecution kind of had a slam dunk because they showed all the texts matching the credit card receipts showing sometimes Cone Enterprises paying for the planes for the prostitutes to be flown in. That's where it's almost like, okay, there's somewhat of a slam dunk there, but you still got to get all 12 to agree. Um, I also want to say about them fighting in the jury room, so just a little detail on juror number 25. Okay, so he is a 51-year-old Gabe White, so gay and white, PhD in molecular biology who studied veterinary science. That's the one that was causing issues yesterday. That's the one that they said was not following the instructions. Now we don't know if he's following— not following the instructions to favor the prosecution or the defense, but that was one of the complaints. He was not following the instructions. So I'm like, if you already have someone not following the instructions That's the whole jury right there. If, if he doesn't cooperate on all, you know, 5 of these charges, you know, 2 each being for Cassie, 2 for Jane Doe, and 1 being the Rico— if he doesn't cooperate, you're gonna get a— just get a mistrial based on that.

So, and is it true that they started having issues within 2 hours after deliberation? So it happened that fast?

Yeah, it happened right away. You, you want me to tell you? Want me to just tell you real quick what I think happened? Okay, so basically it looked like there was a dispute as far as, uh, whether giving drugs to someone, right? So it seems like 11 people thought, according to the drug— the judge's instruction, that this is what had occurred, but he thought— he said it was not He says that he's not guilty. Basically, that's where it's heading.

So he said that?

Well, that's what they're thinking in the background.

Okay, okay. All right, so let's, let's, let's take it, let's take it back a little bit because, uh, surprisingly enough, people are calling Diddy crazy for not having a single witness defend him. He's not taking the stand. You know, he didn't want to take the stand. And they felt like the federal government targeted him, which, I mean, it's clear what happened. They weren't coming after him before the Cassie lawsuit. It happened directly after the Cassie lawsuit. And they built this case based off of Cassie's allegations. And so she is the main witness. Uh, it was supposed to be, uh, Jane Doe 3, which we, you know, heard from. 50 Cent baby mama. And, um, Gina was supposed to be a victim too. Victim 2 or victim 3, one of the two, I can't remember. But, um, all of this came after Cassie's allegations, which in my opinion you really can't trust because it's like she's— she never went to the authorities. She went straight, you know, down to the money court to ask for money because she was in a very bad position financially with 2 children and living with in-laws and/or in-laws or her parents. And, you know, her husband is a personal trainer. And so, it makes it suspicious as to why she even went down. You know, why is she participating in a federal indictment when the whole goal was to get money for her being talentless? Because let's be honest, Cassie is not talented. But I say this to say, you know, to kind of get to my question is like, When it, when it comes to Diddy opting to not testify and not put a, a witness up to defend him, a lot of people will call him crazy. But when I sit back and think about it, I think it's kind of genius because it's like, if the prosecution brought this case, you need to defend these allegations. They went up and created reasonable doubt. And when we get Jay Carter back in the room, we'll, we'll talk a little bit more about that too. They created reasonable doubt amongst the witnesses when they cross-examined them, and then and they allowed the prosecution to rest their case. It's like, Diddy really doesn't have anything to defend here. You brought this, you prove it. Do you feel like that could go, you know, go against him? Or do you feel like that could be for him? Like, it was a, it was a good move?

I feel like it was a very bad move.

Hold on, you're breaking up. Get, get, uh, Flame on roll, uh, okay, okay, go ahead. Yes, yes, I can hear you.

Okay, I feel like it was a very bad move because I feel like if the case does not work out on his behalf, everybody's gonna say, why didn't you bring in an expert witness? Why didn't you bring in various people to substantiate that he's really a solid guy? So I think it was a bad idea, but the defense, I think they feel like it shows that they're confident that the prosecutors did not prove their case.

Because why defend something if you didn't do it?

Right, exactly.

And it leads the way, you open the door to certain conversations. So if you bring somebody down there to testify on your behalf, the prosecution can cross-examine them, and then it creates more doubt, and then it opens the door to other things that they could possibly add, maybe add more charges or more witness tampering, things like that, right?

Exactly.

Okay, okay. Is Jay back? Okay, all right, so we, we getting Jay. We need our lawyer back up here. We need our lawyer back up here. So day 2 down there, uh, what's going on, Mel?

So basically we're waiting on verdict watch, and so everybody's basically, including the family, sitting in the main courtroom. We also have people in 2 overflow rooms But we're waiting for the final verdict to come. But again, today there were some questions asked from the jury. Right now they're just at the point of the first two witnesses. They asked a question about Daniel Phillips, who was the sex worker that I talked about the last time I was on your channel. They wanted to know or see the transcripts about what occurred with him and Cassie at the Essex Hotel in New York. They also want to see the transcripts of Cassie. At the Intercontinental Hotel with Diddy to see what she had to say about it.

Oh, okay. So they're having some questions about the testimony that was given, right? That's kind of— I'm gonna be honest with you, it sounds like Diddy got a— he got a future somewhere, somewhere, because it's creating doubt. And, and Jay Carter, before you left, you were talking about that doubt um, that, you know, was— that was happening amongst the jury, even amongst the people that was watching. Mel, I'ma just pass the, uh, the mic to her for a second, so just hold right there. Let us know when you got to go, Mel, because I know you outside the courtroom, okay? So let me know when you got to go and come back.

Okay, no problem. Thank you.

All right, cool. Go ahead, Jay, get up on there. Now, as you were saying—

yeah, I was saying that again, I mean, I'll be honest with you, even in the overflow room, I couldn't find not one pro-prosecution person. Like, any and everybody I met— and again, these are just everyday people attending. So I'm just saying, if the overflow room is any indication of what the jury looks like, right, because you are being judged by your peers, and his peers were also in the overflow room, I, I just couldn't get anybody— no one said that what he did to Cassie was right. Nobody's ever gonna say, oh, what he did was right. I think everybody has established that that was wrong.

But it was domestic violence. It was domestic violence.

Exactly. But they keep saying, why make this a federal case when it's really a state case? That's what I kept hearing, that regardless of what he did, you shouldn't force this. It's almost like forcing a square into a peg. They took essentially Cassie's civil lawsuit and tried to figure out a way to make it a federal lawsuit, essentially. Because think about it, if Cassie's lawsuit did not come out, there would have been no groundwork for the federal lawsuit. And this is why you have people that are scared, like Tyler Perry. Even Jay-Z knew criminal charges could come. Like, civil is just about money. That's why Diddy was still Diddy bopping and still doing freak-offs up until his arrest, because civil is just money. And at the end of the day, His insurance company paid Cassie, okay? Diddy didn't give Cassie anybody. His insurance company paid her, right?

What's the name of his insurance company? I need to know.

But, but I think he at this point has exhausted it. And I think at this point, this is why it's interesting that people are still— and I'm not saying don't sue, but don't expect to get the money that you putting down in that complaint. Because at some point, if you're smart, you know, you're like, oh, I'm not gonna just sue him, he's gonna run out of money. I'm gonna to sue his businesses, Bad Boy Enterprises. That's why you see the— when you see the civil lawsuit, it's such a long list of names because you're trying to go after who really has the money. And the business has this— that's much Diddy has the money, the business has the money. So when all these civil lawsuits come in against Diddy and Tyler and Jay-Z and just the list goes on and on, they're really going after the business. But what does that do? It gives the green light to the federal prosecutors say, hmm, this involved a business. Could this be a RICO? Could this be a RICO? Because remember, the reason why this case is even in federal court is because it involves a RICO. It involves a federal statute, right? So my thing is, if you don't present any evidence— so let's just say Diddy did everything. Okay, he did, he did the kidnapping, he did the arson, he did the bribery, just the whole list. Let's just say he did it all. That is not a RICO. Why is it not a RICO? Because that's just him personally doing things. You have to show how it was the enterprise that participated with him, other individuals participating. And I know Mel can speak to this Every single time the prosecutor would make the RICO point, they would put up a little chart. It would have a headshot of Diddy, a headshot of KK, Christina Korn, his chief of staff, um, and like bodyguards and other people. They always wanted to make the point that this was not just Diddy, that this was other people working with him. Sometimes I think they drove the argument home, sometimes it was weaker. And where it was weaker, it's not a RICO. Again, if Diddy did all this stuff, it doesn't matter.

It—

that means it's a state crime, it's not a federal crime. It should not be in this, in this courthouse. It's only when he participated with others. Um, what was something else I was going to mention? Oh, but just, you know, just, just a little side note, okay? So Diddy was looking good the other day. He had an all-white—

all white.

I can't even spin my chair with you.

All the way home. I want Latasha K. The white people down at the lawn crying. And then here we go, them sex workers was looking good though. Well, he's wearing—

he wore the other day an all-white outfit. He's looking very godly, matching his white hair, because you know he can't dye his hair.

Yeah.

And he was just sitting back. So every time they would do something he didn't like, say something he didn't like, or if they played that tape— they played that tape so much. I'm gonna get to the tape in a second. They played that tape over and over again with Cassie, right? So every time they would do something he didn't like, he would just kind of push away from the table, cross his little legs, he would look away. Even checked his reaction of his kids, like his kids were like right behind him. And I know some people say, well, why bring your children into this? You are actually more likely to get convicted statistically if your family is not there.

Why?

Because if your own family doesn't believe you and support you, why should a jury?

Exactly.

That's what it— that's what it appears.

Yeah.

Also, people say, well, why didn't he take the stand? Because most defense attorneys don't tell their— their— even if they really are innocent. Why? Because it opens them up to so much cross-examination. You can say the wrong thing even if you don't mean to.

It's just—

it's just not—

it's called opening the door, and then more allegations come out, things accidentally getting said. And it's just hard when you got that many witnesses and you're putting together a sizable case like this. But I did want to jump in before Mel responds to exactly what you said. You know, when a federal prosecutor is looking at a case and a broke federal prosecutor at that is looking at a case, Diddy's empire is worth $400 million. And so for them to be asking for assets to be seized, even assets that have been transferred, pre-transferred, dating back to a certain date, It just— I couldn't help but think the other night when I was putting together the lineup for this show is that you don't see them going after big drug dealers no more. You remember how it used to be like drug dealer after drug dealer after drug dealer. And yet we have the— when you look at what drugs are doing to the community now, you don't see any of those cases being tried at all. It's like, what's going on with that? The fentanyl crisis. They even got the zombie drugs. Like, it is bad, right? And that used to be just kind of what the feds did, which to me was a great thing to do. And now it just seems like they're just going after entertainers that are somewhat supposedly be, you know, supposedly the criminals. And it's like, why? I feel like because it's an easy money grab for them. $400 million is going to be transferred to the Justice Department and they're going to put that into retirement funds for, you know, federal agents and, you know, into manicuring the lawn. And into protecting sources and witness protection and things like that. And so it's like, why go chase, you know, why go across the border to chase China and chase the fitnah when we got it right here at home? And I think it's, I don't know, I just, it's just something, it just doesn't sit right with me. It really doesn't.

It shouldn't sit right with you. It's called what they call the low-hanging fruit. Remember, prosecutors have a 95% prosecution rate. 95%, that's extremely high. So they don't typically bring a case if they don't think they gonna get a guilty charge on at least one of the charges. And one of the last— outside of R. Kelly with the sex trafficking, the last last RICO charge with the Entertainer was Irv Gotti, rest his soul. They wanted him to take a plea. But if you think about it, if you look at that case, that's the same thing they did— they tried to do with Diddy. They tried to say with Irv Gotti, you're, uh, what is it, Murder Inc. Murder Inc. is really not just a record label, it's this criminal enterprise selling drugs, doing this, doing that. And Irv Gotti stood 10 toes down. No, it's not. It's not a criminal enterprise. I don't care what you say, it's just music. So guess what? You're gonna have to prove this case.

And he still—

and he, he beat that prosecution charge to this day. It's amazing because you usually do—

because you don't ever— you don't ever see that happen. Mel, let me, let me let Mel get in here. Mel, you want to respond to some of the things that were just said?

Yeah, when it comes to the whole racketeering case, I think we have to be careful and look at a little bit closer because Let's think about the predicate act, drug distribution, right? The prosecutor explained, and also the judge came back and reiterated, that you do not have to sell a drug to an individual in order to have a predicate act. I can give you a pill as a family member. We could be sitting on the stoop smoking the blunt. You know, in New York, on a federal level, weed is illegal. So if I'm passing that to you, They make it seem like that's a predicate act of drug distribution, giving someone else a drug. Another big issue when it comes to sex trafficking, they have sex trafficking as a predicate act under racketeering. And so they put 27 sex workers on the screen. I counted them. And some of these men, like Jules, they flew from New York when they when they showed the chart that she just mentioned, they just mentioned, they showed you that Jules flew from JFK to LAX. They showed you Diddy paid for it with an American Express. They show you that that very day Jules is texting with Cassie. Cassie's all hyped up about having a freak-off, and Diddy is talking to Cassie, yeah, we're gonna have the freak-off. So that's a real problem because when Jules came to town Diddy's leader of the enterprise, Christina Korum. He's the one that arranged for the sex worker to leave the airport and come to the hotel. So now you have the person that's running POM Enterprises also putting her tentacles or her hands into the hands of a freakoff. That's a real problem.

So do you think that's the reason why they're going with a RICO conspiracy and not an actual RICO?

Well, I would have the attorney—

you have to conspire, you have to conspire with others. So in this case, could it be intentional?

Or because you can unintentionally conspire to do something. Like, I don't think his team conspired to do anything. I think they were paid people and what their boss was asking them to do, they did, right?

But I guess they still consider a conspiracy because it involves more than one person. And I think Mel is right, if they do get the RICO, which I'm not saying they will, but if they do, it's because they are going to be able to approve drug distribution with that very low-level definition, right? Because that's such a low-level definition of drug distribution, easily appealable, right? So they're gonna get it because of drug distribution. And then remember, there has to be 2 in 10 years So you only need two. So the second one would be, as Mel said, the transportation for the purpose of prostitution. So if, if they get the RICO, it will probably be under those two things. I still think you can argue obviously the other side, but if they get the RICO—

but if Cassie—

let me come—

go ahead, go ahead, Mel, go ahead.

Okay, I just want to challenge you, and this is, uh, friendly fire, by the way. The biggest problem for me that I think that they have is the bribery, because when you have the event that happened at the hotel with Cassie after the beating, the guy Eddie Garcia, I saw him take the stand. I'm in the main courtroom. He talked about he came to work that day at 2 o'clock. He said that he heard about the incident that happened with Cassie and Diddy. He received a call from Christina Corum, also known as KK, and she's like, listen, my boss did something, he was really high, he was drunk, he wants to see the video to see what occurred. He says, listen, no, I'm not going to do that because it's against the rules of the company at the Continental Hotel. But then he said later on that day, Christina Coram comes into the lobby, she calls him and then calls him to the lobby. Now she's offering him to sweeten the pot, something monetary to make this go away. He says no. He writes an email to his managers. Now Diddy calls him and says, listen, I want to make this go away. What can we do? So Eddie Garcia went and told his manager. His manager says, tell Diddy for $50,000 we can make this go away. And guess what?

Shout out to Eddie Garcia. Shout out to Eddie Garcia. Go ahead. Because it was a lot more than what the Intercontinental Hotel was paying him.

And this is probably the reason why they had to pay Cassie additional $10 million. But let me just get back to the story real quick. So yeah, Eddie Garcia proceeded to go and meet with Diddy, and they brought him the original of the video. They made the video go away. Diddy gave them $100,000. And you know what Diddy called Eddie Garcia? He called him Eddie My Angel. So that's where he got his nickname from. So basically, you have someone paying for a video to go away. They call that bribery. The defense said it's just him trying to control the narrative. He didn't want this bad publicity to get out, so he gave them money. But according to what the, uh, judge instructions are, that may not fly.

And what were the judge instructions?

Well, they broke it down.

They— so the list of the list of things that you have to prove for the RICO. So bribery is one of the— so remember, there's only 2 crimes within 10 years. So they go through each one with bribery. If you want to go with the prosecution's argument that, hey, they weren't paying for bad press, then you could say that's bribery. If you want to go for the defense, defense is saying, oh, that wasn't a bribe, that was just— he just didn't want bad press. He wasn't trying to prevent himself from being charged for crime.

It— and here's the thing, it was a state crime. It wasn't a federal crime.

Well, so for a RICO, if you commit even two state crimes, so kidnapping is—

Well, they got a three-strike law or some shit? Well, no, no, no.

So the way they enforce the RICO, at least in this context, is even if it's a state crime, if there are at least two crimes, and again, they give you the list of crimes, so it's not every single crime in the world, in the world, but there are a list of crimes that they say if you do at least 2 in a criminal enterprise, meaning not just you, you and other people, in 10 years they're gonna consider that a RICO. Bribery, even though I know you're saying that's a state crime, that is on the list. But what I'm challenging you, Mel, to think about is, as you said, you can argue it either way. If I'm a prosecutor, I don't need people arguing stuff either way. I need slam dunks. Slam dunks. To me, the only two slam dunks they have, because they're very basic definitions and they don't require a lot of thinking, is drug distribution and the transportation for pros— to engage prostitution. To me, those two don't require a lot of thinking. The other things, like kidnapping, arson, robbery, witness tampering, forced labor, sex trafficking, that's a lot of argument back and forth. It's not gonna be that many arguments over drugs.

So you think that he about to get a RICO?

I feel like if, if they can get all 12 to agree on just those 2, 2 that I just said, yes, that would be a RICO. But again, you gotta get all 12 to agree, because what if, what if one person says, I'm sorry, then having freak-offs and exchanging drugs and buying drugs while they're having these— because I don't consider that drug distribution. Some people just—

I'm gonna let you respond, Mel, but I think, and this is where the public come in, because I'm just a public person and I've dealt with a lot of entertainers and people that are in that entertainment and that fast lifestyle, that as that, that juror that was acting up, the 51-year-old gay white man, and so if we're just going to say hypothetically, we know how gay men get down, okay? We know that they like to party. Okay? And so, um, in those parties, people show up to party. And you cannot tell me, as a 51-year-old gay white man, that he hasn't been to a few parties that involve the sliding of drugs and the sliding of penises in different people. Okay? And then maybe somebody gets too high, maybe somebody says no, but like, if everybody is high and drunk and you came here consensual, nobody is taking anything from you. So that's what makes me think that I don't feel like everybody's going to be on the same page because if there is one person and he kind of fits the profile, he's, he's 51, he's gay, he's a white male. He was born during those times, during the '80s, you know what I'm saying? When that shit was going down and he's a professor, right? So which means there's, there's a lifestyle. He lives very diligent by the day and at night that motherfucker is spinning. You understand what I'm saying? I know the profile. I probably would have made a good detective, you know what I'm saying? So that's probably why he in there like, no, he's in there like, he's probably like, no, this instruction doesn't make sense.

And he may not admit it out loud to them, but maybe he will. He may have said, well, I passed the molly, I passed a party, am I guilty of drug distribution? Like, he may be saying that, and there could be some other jurors saying, yeah, He's right. Like, if I ever passed the joint— if I— so now all of a sudden it's the drug distribution. Even women getting on planes— just want to briefly talk about sex trafficking. A lot of women are concerned now if they're getting flown out by these entertainers and athletes and stuff that they can get caught up in a sex trafficking trap. Like, it— like, at some point we got to draw a line with consent versus not consent. I do like how Mel broke down, uh one example of how Jane was mid-air making it clear that just coming to have a good time and have fun in New York with you— nope, no free calls, right? And he's like, oh yeah, no free calls, don't worry. And then midway, she's midway in the air, he changes it. Oh, I'ma still need you to—

but she could have turned her ass back around.

She could have, she could have, but I think I think Mel gave that example because one of the things that's interesting about the sex trafficking charge is they said you do not have to find— so they make this clear to the jury— you do not have to find every instance of the freak-offs to be sex trafficking. So let's just say Jane, who we know who she is, had 100 freak-offs with Diddy. Okay, let's say 99 were consensual, and let's say the 100th one was not. They're saying that's enough to find him guilty of sex trafficking. I know, it's ridiculous. No, I know, I know. But the prosecutor made sure she put that in there. You know why? Because jurors were probably thinking, she's up here talking about the man is still paying her rent, she's signing love contracts, she paying the lawyer. Y'all, this is so consensual. In fact, what I will say, if any testimony hurt the prosecution's case, it was Jane Doe. They should have kept her out. I'm gonna be honest with you, they should have just stuck with Cassie. Gina was on the run, but I wouldn't even brought Jane Doe.

They found Gina down there at the Whole Foods. I saw TNT. Now, how did they conveniently find her after the trial was over?

That's what I'm trying to say.

Gina was at Diddy house, the one that's up for sale. Did it— she She was standing there. Yeah, Gina, Gina wasn't gonna do this. Gina wasn't gonna do this. The only reason— and I'm gonna talk to you about Gina in just a second because everybody's been trying to interview me in terms of Gina. And you know, I've been taking my precious little time because I'm like, why would I give you my content? I talked to Gina. Gina good. Uh, Mel, do you want to respond to this? And then we're going to take a, um, a call from one of the viewers that may have a question for you too, or just may want to give comment on it. Do you guys think in the, in the comments, did he do it? Did he not do it? If you were a juror, what are you voting? This is a live verdict watch. Go ahead, Mel, uh, respond.

I just want to make it clear for the audience when it comes to this case that this case, in my opinion, was targeted because Cassie, nor did Jane, none of these individuals came down here to the Southern District and reported Diddy. They went to file a civil case. So it really, as the defense painted, is like a witch hunt. And when he said that to the jury, that you cannot trust the government, that this is a bad case, the judge really came down hard on Mark Agnifilo for saying that you can't trust the government. So there was a lot of contention, and the judge immediately corrected and said, in this courtroom, basically, we do not talk like that. So I just want to make that clear for the case, that this case does have some major issues with it. Now, Jay, for you, I just want to bring this out. When they brought out those carts that you mentioned, right? How do you think— they already have drugs pretty much sewed up. You could probably say that, okay? They also have 27 sex workers, which multiple of those were flying around. But what do you say when you actually see the documentation and the charges are transportation of interstate, across state lines for the purpose of prostitution, How do you explain when Daniel Phillips says he was paid $3,000 to $4,000, the prostitute said he was paid $800, $1,200, or $2,000 on several occasions, and King Kong couldn't ejaculate, so his fee was lower.

If you, if you produce semen, that's $4,000 to $5,000.

Based on performance. Male, but it doesn't matter even if it was a dollar.

Go ahead, man. I'm sorry, man.

It's all right.

You're saying there were different amounts, but to Tasha's point, it was based on performance.

It was based on performance. I spoke to two of the male, uh, uh, workers. We're gonna talk to one later today. We got him loaded up for around 4, 5 o'clock. One of the male sex workers, okay, he was actually subpoenaed by the grand jury. He's gonna be joining our live here shortly, uh, as well. And we got Ray J and a few others. Okay, but here's the— go ahead, Mel. Go ahead. Damn it. I just had to jump in there because that's why he got paid $800.

So when I first came on, I was distracted because people out here walking up to me. Now it's pouring raining, guys. So I only have a limited amount of time. I'm so sorry.

Yes, please. Please.

So, Jay, what I want to say to you as a lawyer, how would you explain when they have the documentation that if it's across state lines, he flew someone from JFK to LAX. How do you explain that?

So, I mean, you're explaining it. So currently right now I'm a law professor, so I'm not— I'm not practicing, I teach. So this is how I break down the law to my students. The minute you get on a plane, you are in interstate commerce. Tasha, not only did they say this— I thought this was interesting— they also said it was interstate state commerce commerce, because the baby oil had to go through interstate state commerce, the Astroglide had to go through interstate commerce, the telephone communications went across state lines. So when they say interstate, it wasn't just the prostitutes going across state lines, it was the products and communications across state lines that makes that the violation of what Mel talked about, which is the Mann Act, which is you cannot engage transport.

Same thing, R. Kelly locked in, locked up under right now, and he should fucking stay there listen, because he was dealing with children. So yeah, um, that's just my opinion.

That's the predicate act. So there you go, you have 3. So that's 4 already that they could choose from that I've broken down on this.

But remember, but remember, I still remember they break the charges. Really, it's, it's, it's technically 5 counts. So let's just review really quickly because I know Mel is getting ready to jump off. We got, okay, one, which is the RICO, right? That we have count 2 and 3. 2 is sex trafficking as it relates to Cassie, and then transportation of prostitutes, prostitutes as it relates to Cassie. And then count 4 and 5 is sex trafficking as it relates to Jane, transportation of prostitution as it relates to Jane. As I mentioned before, I don't think Jane is a very good witness. I actually do— I don't— if they— I don't really find— they're gonna find him really guilty of anything as it relates to Jane. And if they do, maybe the transportation of prostitution. So I think, again, if they're going to get him on anything, it's going to be two of the lesser charges on Rico and, uh, potentially sex trafficking on Cassie. Because what they're gonna say is that the 2016 Intercontinental video is one example of where she was literally forced to come back. She was forced to come back to freak off that she didn't want to participate in. They're going to say on video, here is an example. Also, really quickly, as it relates to the videos, the videos actually, Tasha, believe it or not, had the opposite effect that I think the prosecution wanted to have.

Yes.

So originally the prosecutors were like, oh, let's just play. So I was actually there a couple days when they were playing the videos. We just had to sit, okay, silence, because we couldn't see it. They turned the screens, okay, put on earbuds. But you could just tell by the facial expressions of the witnesses what they were watching, right? So what's interesting is in the beginning, the prosecutor said, oh no, let's just take this, these couple of seconds here, let's just show that. And the defense was like, oh no, if we're gonna show the video, let's show the video. They want to show long clips because they wanted to show how consensual it was. Because if I show you something and it looks consensual, there's no crime, versus if I show you just a little bitty clip, it could have been consensual, could have not been consensual. So they just wanted to make sure that the jurors saw as much of the freak-off tape as possible because they really wanted to show that these people were not being held against their will, that they were having fun, uh, that, that, that, that it was consensual. So it actually kind of had the opposite effect. Also, what kind of started to have the opposite effect was the 2016 video. I think when they first played it, it had this boom effect and everybody was like, oh my God, Diddy is such a terrible person, blah blah blah blah blah. But you know, people get desensitized. The more you play something over and over and over again, it actually desensitizes. And I think the jury, after a while, they have been like, okay, we've seen this 100 times. Like, this was a domestic violence situation. You want to convince us that this should be a part of the federal charge, fine. But again, I don't think it did what they wanted it to do, interesting enough.

So do you want to start, man? We're going to take a question from the viewer. How much longer we got with you, Mel? Because you know I wanted to keep you, but I know it's raining.

It stopped raining, so I could stay on a few more minutes.

Okay, so 10 minutes. How about 10 minutes?

10 minutes.

And then we gotta— we got one of Diddy's, uh, uh, actual male sex workers that's going to be coming to join the live here. Uh, to join us here shortly. Okay, but go ahead, uh, Mel.

Now you talked about how the defense, um, wanted to show the video to show that the ladies consented, and I noticed that day they showed 3 clips and some of them are like 17 minutes, right? And I agree with you, but they also showed those videos. You want to know why? Because they showed that Jules was hired to fly from New York to LA and he did the do. They wanted to show he actually did the sex because that's a part of the, uh, the instructions that the judge gave. And but the key thing here, they said that the person— it's all about intent. So he could have flown to LA and never had sex, but because they started it, that he still just is guilty. That's the point that's actually on the instruction.

Also, you don't have to— another key element of the transportation of prostitution, they also instructed the jury they did not have to be forced. So the prostitutes did not have to be forced, they just had to be paid with the intent to have the sex.

Okay, so let me get this.

But niggas fly pictures on IG all the time, cross state lines, so that's everybody's sex trafficking?

It's over, it's over. No more of that. They're gonna lock your ass up for that.

To the BBL models, no more selling pussy to pay off the care credits, okay? Because it's getting locked up. Go ahead, Mel. We're gonna go ahead and get a caller loaded up. She got a question or a comment. Uh, got, uh, he, uh, you guys, if you want to call in and give your, um, perspective, thoughts on what's going on, or ask either one of these, uh, J. Carter or mail a question because they've been following this case, uh, you know, very adamantly, uh, throughout the 7 weeks of the trial. Please hit the link, it is, uh, in the description box as well as in the comment section. Uh, what's his name? Who's calling? Who? Fatherhood. What is your name? Fatherhood.

Fatherhood. Yeah, that's the hood I represent.

Okay, Fatherhood. All right, where you calling from?

Calling from Michigan.

Shout out to Michigan. What's your— do you have a question or a comment?

I had a couple comments.

Um, okay, let's keep it short. We don't want too much time because, you know. Okay, but go ahead, go ahead.

I feel like this man, um, should be acquitted. Now, in the court of public opinion, yeah, he did a lot of wrong things, but the, the, the DA or USDA was very sloppy. Um, they basically ruined his life. But coming from a social moral standard, wrong, totally wrong coming from a man. But it. I think that these were adults. Um, they were consenting to this. Um, and, and if he is charged and convicted, I think that there should be others just like Cassie. I mean, she did the same thing. She was right there getting drugs delivered, ordering prostitutes, traveling state lines. So why is it that only Diddy is being charged when all these people that are so-called witnesses are actually accessories to the bullshit that he was doing.

Immunity. They got immunity.

Yeah, and that's what I want to hear. When we hear that, then yeah, if that's really true, then he should get off then, because he should just get off. Like I said, his life is ruined, um, others are guilty, and we can't judge him in the court of public opinion. It has to be the law and They were sloppy with it. They're dropping charges in the last week of the trial, and I've never heard of that. So I think if the judge wants to do the right thing, he'll slap him with a big fine, some probation, and let that man go home to his family and his kids. That's it.

Okay. And I got to ask you a question, Fatherhood. Have you ever transported anybody for the purposes of sex across state lines?

No, not state lines, but, uh, city lines. I mean, you know, you gotta think about it, man. You know, I'm 42 years old, so back in my times we had cabs. Wasn't no Uber or nothing, nothing like that.

But I don't have a little thing, thing like, here, get me over there.

I've got you a cab. I said I got some drugs over, some weed, a bottle over here.

I got some Netflix. See, you can get some McDonald's or Checkers if you want it.

Whatever you want, it's all on I thought that sounds like a date.

That sounds like, you know what you're going to do. Yeah, and these women were grown. I could see if we was sitting up here arguing about children, that's a different— these are grown-ass women that could have worked. We just lost Mel for a second.

Not only that, but Cassie got whooped up and then went back to her mom, showed her. Her mom takes pictures and sends her back to this guy.

What parent did—

come on now, that don't even make sense.

Okay, yes, I, I get you, I get you. I appreciate you, uh, Mel, uh, and keep— thank you for keeping it 100 for sure. Yes, all right, um, you see what I'm talking about? Everybody— he said city lines, but hey, I don't be flew out. You know, I, I done been flew out, I done been transported via Greyhound when I ain't had no money, or the dude ain't had no money, they bought a Greyhound ticket, you know what I'm saying? Like, is that against—

he's echoing what, like you said, these jurors are not lawyers, they're not legal analysts. They're going to be looking at it like, well, what have I done in my past? Can they bring me up on charges? They are going to look at this this as, yes, these are the instructions. But in reality, is this what really happened? I know they're not supposed to do that, but truly, the judge can instruct as much as he wants. They are going to do exactly what they want to do in that jury room.

Okay, you want to respond to that? Go ahead.

Yeah, this is why so many people, especially Black people, are so upset about this case about Diddy, because a lot of the things that are happening that the government is taking him down with a technical note. It actually— this is what people do every day, like passing the blunt or what have you. They give away drugs, they give it to their girlfriend. You can't give your girlfriend anything, you see what I'm saying? So this is where it gets really complicated, and that's why people feel like there needs to be a rising up against this case. Denny, the time does not match the— the crime does not match the time that he would Diddy did not have blood on his hand like a lot of these mob bosses that they're trying to make them out to be. Diddy had baby oil and Astroglide on his hands, but not blood. We might as well say, spin it one time, Toxic, spin it one time, guys, spin it. That's right, no blood, just, just baby oil.

Baby oil. We had somebody pop in. We got a question from a viewer. What's the viewer's name? Why? How you doing? Why? Where you calling from?

Uh, actually I'm calling from Salt Lake City, Utah.

Tasha, shout out to Salt Lake. I'm gonna get up there one day.

No, you don't have to, I promise.

Don't make that 7% comment on this. It's okay. This is the comment that I wanted to make, okay? Okay.

Whenever you walk through life, we put things in our basket that we're purchasing based on our actions in life.

Life, right?

Okay, let Diddy pay for his groceries.

That's all I'm saying.

He need to slide and glide his ass up to the register and pay for everything that he has done to these people.

Some people were voluntary and some people were victimized. But keep this in mind: a woman in servitude to a man by lust, love, or money, okay, is a victim of her own circumstance. Okay, now those those professional ass whoopings that he was giving to Cassie. And I promise you, I've seen ass whoopers, and he was a professional, okay? The only thing it was, he had the wrong audience, okay? Okay.

This man need to pay for everything he did to those people, voluntarily, involuntarily, or whatever the case may be.

You cannot walk and take your big clumsy feet and step on people in life like this and then walk away with a new pair of shoes. No, it don't work that way. So if he needs to lose all of his riches and fund the federal government, because Lord knows they gonna need the money when that man with that orange cat on his head get through with they ass, they gonna need all of that money and more.

Okay, sad part, we ain't gonna get none of it, but that's irrelevant.

But what I'm saying is that Diddy need to go ahead and just pay the piper.

That's just all it is to it. If God claps, you should dance.

Dawg, God is clapping for us right now. He's telling us that these people cannot continue to squash and step on people because they don't have money. You can't use money to victimize people. You just can't.

So let him go up there and pay for them groceries, the eggs and the sausages.

Oh no, all right, sausages. She said he should pay for the groceries, and I think the feds is asking for him to pay for it and everything— the baby oil, the KY gel, the house. The jet, the boats, the kids going up in there too. Um, listen, everybody coming. The braids on the little girl's head, they giving them over to the feds as well too. So, um, yes, we— thank you so much, I appreciate it. And y'all are asking me, am I Team Diddy? No. Uh, but did he do it? Yeah, he did that shit. Don't ask me nothing. Don't ask me nothing. All I know is I got uncles that was whooping my auntie's asses, okay? Ain't none of them did no fed time behind whooping ass. Ain't none of them did that. The only time they did fed time is when they was out selling dope. But doing dope, they never did fed time. They did city jail time, okay? You get caught, you're doing a little drugs, you may be petty offenses. But when they started moving up to the federal offenses with drug trafficking and stuff like that, but I never seen them go to jail for slapping the hell out of one of my aunts and one of my aunts clapping back with a steel iron. I've never seen it happen.

And I think your sentiment, Tasha, is what— because I know you, you know, you play devil's advocate.

You're—

you do good in your edutainment. I call it edutainment. You do a very good job of doing both sides and, and being, you know, entertaining while you do it. Again, I agree with you. I don't think it's necessarily I, I'm not telling you, I'm not team anybody. I think the issue is, should a person be found guilty of federal charges if in what he actually did was a violation of a state crime? That's really the question.

No, no, you're saying no.

No, when you say no, that doesn't mean that you're team Diddy. You're just saying this, it needs to be handled accordingly.

And back then, the LA County has already said they have decided to not prosecute Diddy. It is out of jurisdiction, like, uh, statute of limitations, all of that stuff, right? They have decided to not do it, right? Cassie didn't run her ass down there to press charges. Cassie ran her ass down to the check cashing place. She had two children, she had married the trainer. Diddy wasn't paying neither one of them, so they decided to go cash in. That's all I'm saying. So the crimes that he's charged with, Diddy should be be spending fair time for shooting that lady in the face. That's what federal charges— that's what I thought they was gonna go back and reopen. When Sean did that time, now he want to come out here and say, well, I didn't do the shooting. Well, why you ain't say that before? You want to say something now that they got Diddy locked up? Then there was a little boy that got shot allegedly by Diddy's son and Diddy in the studio. Cassie wrote about that. They didn't even say shit about that. And that is recorded. That is in the paper in Miami, okay? That shooting happened in his studio, and Cassie gave great detail to what happened. Why they didn't bring that up?

So you're just saying they had an opportunity to build a federal case, right? But instead they picked these other things. And to be honest, I also think they picked these other things because it was salacious. A, B, they already had civil, uh, Cassie's civil lawsuit to really work, work with, right? I mean, just think about it. We would not be sitting right here today even talking if he had just settled with Cassie and let this quietly go. There would have been no public civil lawsuit, and there would have been never a federal case being brought based on her suit.

Her suit— I think his lawyers— that's where his lawyers kind of failed, because I'm sure they told him, let her go to the public. This is not anything the feds can get you on. These are domestic violence. This is just pure domestic violence. Okay, but the other stuff that she put in there, like I said, the shooting of that boy that happened in his studio, and then the Wale situation—

wasn't it?

No, I don't think she mentioned the Wale situation, but she did mention something along the lines of him dangling somebody over a balcony. And then there was another singer that came and confirmed saying that it was Wale. Mel, go ahead, what you want to say?

Yeah, I'm gonna have to go, but I wanted to just break this down in accordance with what was just said. We have all these charges on Diddy, and I don't have a dog in the fight, but we have all these charges. Now, one police report in regards to Diddy— not one police report. Here's the other thing you just mentioned in regards to Bono. Bono had testified that on September 26, 2016, Diddy had her hanging off the balcony. Then he took her and threw her on the furniture on the patio. And she had pictures with metadata to back this up. Do you know what, uh, Diddy's Black female attorney from Atlanta did? Uh, Nicole Westmoreland, she showed that Diddy was saying that Trump Plaza in New York wasn't even out in LA at the time. That's just like, if the glove don't fit, you must to quit. That's— it's just that serious. So basically, they were lying on Diddy for this particular occurrence. But not only that, when Deontay, Nash, Mia, and Vonna came to the stand, or different people, they say they're still talking to each other and talking to Cassie while they're taking the stand. So how can you have all the witnesses still in cahoots all the way up to and beyond their testimony in court? So I'm just saying that there's something not right about this trial, and I'll stand on that.

All right, well, listen, Mel, we hate to see you go. We know that you, you've been out here, um, you know, uh, waiting, you know, and I appreciate that. Um, I hope you could join back in. We will be, uh, verdict watching tomorrow as well too. So, um, we do want you to join us again, uh, for that live. And so, um, guys, I want you to take a second and just thank Mel for, you know, being so patient and coming down and just being so knowledgeable. Again, we hope to have you back tomorrow. So our producers will be in contact with you. Are we, are we on schedule? We good?

Anytime you need me.

All right, thank you so much. So real quick, Winos, shout out to Twitch, shout out to Facebook, shout out to YouTube. Jay Carter, hold tight, Mel, we're gonna go ahead and drop you down. We're reset because we do have another commentator that's coming to replace Mel. We also have one of Diddy's male escorts that's going to be joining us here shortly in about maybe 5 minutes or so, maybe, maybe 5 or 10 minutes. Okay, so hold tight for that, winos. And he's going to be here. He's an open book, and he's here to answer any questions that you guys may have for him as well. And then we also have Sean Davey Way that's going to be joining us. So as well, who's done a slew of Surviving Diddy, um, uh, pieces that, you know, um, people just are, just are now getting privy to. I mean, he was covering Surviving Diddy before Cassie even thought about, um, you know, suing Diddy or any of this, okay? And so, um, I'm, I'm glad to have him join us. We're just going to take a short break and then we'll be right back. So Jay Carter, hold back for me. Wineos, hold that thought. Make sure you like, share, and subscribe. We'll be right back after the break. We got sponsors we need to brag about, which means Boley raise a glass too! Let's go!

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He was saying some awful things. You You bitch! That coochie is just oozing. You my old lady. In the name of the Holy Light, I cast you out. Leave this man and never return. Your abusive sexual desires, the fornication, the mishandling of your wife. She gave you 40 years, Robert. 40 days. 40 days. In the name of the Holy Light, I cast you out. Leave this man and never return. Watch this full program and other exclusive content on www.tashaklive.com. Girl, you know damn well I ain't brought you no damn flowers. I'm still waiting on my check to come through from a property that I sold 2 months ago. I can take it to the check cashing place.

From?

Girl, I don't know where it got— Open it and see.

Thinking of you.

Oh, from Calvin.

Really?

Oh, that's so cute. It's so cute that you still receive beautiful gifts like this, girl. I am still receiving gifts to the clinic, child.

Your baby daddy.

What's that? No, that's why you still going to the clinic, cuz your baby daddy. I'm supposed to go to the clinic. That's my baby baby. Uh, that's the problem. There's two places that I go to. That's why I'm trying to put you on the abortion and the STD clinic. I stay there. No, Tasha, no. Why?

I'm trying to give you a wholesome man. Kelvin's brother.

What you know about wholesome and Kelvin's brother, girl? No, I need a nigga to burn me. See, I need him to have an experience with fucking. Okay, listen.

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Ah, my bad. It wasn't Jasmine, it was me. I didn't want a hot mic, y'all. All right, guys. So at least they were reading my lips, okay? All right, so we're back. Thank you guys so much for tuning in for the show. And so before the break, we had Mel, an actual legal analyst down at the court. He's been observing the case for the last 7 weeks, okay? He joined us for about an hour and a half, giving us commentary on what he observed and what's going on down there right now at the courthouse amongst the jurors, okay? And so he's gonna be joining us throughout the week as we watch to see what this jury is going to do. We also have Jay Carter from the Black Lawyers Podcast giving her legal perspective on things that she's observed while watching the trial, as well as the jury while they're deliberating as well. And so I want to thank them both for coming through. We also have Jay Carter is going to be joining us. Mel is not going to be joining us for this second half. We do have a few celebrity guests that are going to be joining in. a little later on the show. And we also have an escort that was paid by Diddy for about 8 years, according to him, to sleep with Cassie.

Okay.

And so we did interview him on TashaKLive.com. It was an explosive interview. But now that the jury is deliberating, I do want to hear his thoughts on, you know, kind of how he sees this going. Okay. And so we're going to introduce Jay Carter. Jay Carter, how you doing? Welcome back.

Thank you. Thank you. And before we, you know, I didn't say this before, but Tasha, let me tell say something about Miss— yes, okay, here I— and I know a lot of your winos will agree with me— your resilience in your own court proceedings. Oh girl, I have so much respect for you, just your, your own resilience, and also just your ability to persevere, keep going. I don't think people— I think another reason why some people like, oh, why are you you, Team Diddy. People don't know how it feels to be accused of something, and you're like, why am I here? I didn't really do this. So until you are accused of something— it doesn't have to necessarily be criminal— but until you're accused of something, peered across the line, you don't know how that feels to be in that hot seat of the defendant. You've been in a hot seat of a defendant, so you know how that feels.

So I do think stressful time of my life. I was like, I wish that I had a— I wish that I had a girl with my gut instinct to look and be like, hey girl, what you need? Videos taken down? I just— perfect. We would have been done because I mean, I was away from my kid for 3 weeks. I had a newborn baby. I was away from my newborn baby and everything to argue over somebody feelings being hurt. Like, stop. Stop the cap. But listen, I appreciate that. And it is because of the winos that I was able to get through it and why I'm able to keep going. And so I love what I do and my loyalty is to my viewers, um, and it will always remain with them, okay? Whether I'm right, wrong, or indifferent, it does not matter, okay? And so we're— and that's why we don't block over here, um, just like I cuss people out, they can cuss me out and cuss other people out because we're all grown adults and we all come from different walks of life. And so our opinions are different, but at the same time, we can all come together cohesively and make a decision. And I really feel like this is a state case and the state should have proceeded accordingly, but we all know how Los Angeles get down, okay? The money makers walk That's why New York has had to step in to get Harvey Weinstein and all these other people that was, you know, violating people, because Los Angeles refused to do it because they was getting kickbacks as well too. But listen, we got Sean Davey Way, um, that's going to be joining us. Hey Sean, how you doing?

Hey, hello ladies! Hi Tasha, hi Jade.

Hey, look at you at work early today. You know we got a film later today for Shoot Your Shot.

Absolutely, I can't wait, I'm excited.

I know, I know, I know. Welcome! So listen, uh, you guys know Sean Davey Way. If you don't, get to know him. All right, he has covered Diddy extensively for years. You've done docuseries on Surviving Diddy before this whole thing like shook up and became a federal case. What made you— first of all, welcome. Thank you.

Absolutely. Thank you for having me.

Okay, what made you pursue and, and, and, and put together a Surviving Diddy docuseries?

He's gross. That, that's where we're going to start off there.

Okay.

And I'm a firm believer where there's smoke, there's fire. Okay, so I understand what public opinion— everybody wants Diddy to go down. Nobody wants Diddy to go down more than myself because of the extensive research that I've done, reading old articles and old interviews from people that have had lawsuits that didn't go nowhere, from the people that's pointed at him red-handed and said he did that back in the day. At the club, I was there, I saw him, and all of their voices were to me unheard. So that is what inspired me to do it, because again, I just saw so much evidence proving that these people are telling the truth. Like, there's no lies being said here. So once I started, it was like I couldn't stop, and I just kept going and going. Is that me?

How many episodes do you have right now?

Uh, about 8.

Damn. And they're all an hour or two or maybe three.

The first one that I did almost has 2 million views.

So that's how deep it was. That's how deep he got. Them things was banging. Have, have they picked back up since, uh— uh-oh, we lost him for a second. I believe too because it's raining too a lot in other parts of the country. He's going to be right back because I do, uh, want to talk to him. Uh, who do we have a caller backstage? Okay, huh? Yeah, go ahead. We have a caller backstage. We're gonna let them give, um, their account while we wait for Sean, uh, to get back. Um, and so do you have a question or a comment? What's your name?

Well, my thing is a comment, and I think it's, um, it's more about Diddy's wrong.

What's your name?

Oh, my name is JB out of Dallas.

Okay, shout out to JD out of Dallas. Now, Diddy is wrong.

Go ahead. Now, Diddy is wrong for what he does. And that is put his hands on women. Um, you know, that's a coward, period. You can't defend that. But at the same time, when it comes to charges like distribution, we— and we— everybody in the neighborhood is distributing when they smoke a blunt, when you puff it and you hand it to the next person. When, when someone with a crack habit gets a 20-piece and he gives the next dope fiend a little crumb just to put on they pipe, Everyone's handing someone some type of narcotic or something, and that don't mean that they're distributing it, they're just handing it to them. I don't believe Diddy ever sold it to him for $10 or $20 or sold kilos, so he never distributed anything. What he did was gave people that had a free will and a free choice to have whatever habit that they have, to be able to have whatever they want, just like McDonald's. You can have it your way. If you do this, you do this. If you drink this, you drink this. You already had this habit before you came to me, but now you want me to rot in jail for something that you will be continuing to do even while I'm in jail, just with someone else, or either by yourself. So why should I go to jail for something that you were already doing? When I beat you, I'm wrong for beating you, but you as a grown woman that was beat left me, but you came back into my presence for what I give So why am I wrong for you wanting to continue to be around me and you know how I am? So I'm wrong, I should be in jail right now for domestic violence. That's the most that I could see Diddy doing. Now I believe his karma from the things that he done that was not right to other people has put him in this position. So even if he is acquitted, he will be in big million-dollar mansions by himself. Because I believe the lifestyle that he once had would never be the same. And this world is so crazy that I think even if he is found, um, to be innocent and come home, people will continue to still be around Diddy, party with him, do what he wants to do, because those are the type people that he connects to because they like to be connected with the people that they're— that they are. Birds of a feather flock together. So after all this comes around, there still will be women that's willing to sleep with them. There's men— there'll still be people that's wanting to do drugs with them. So what he's doing, I don't see that as being a crime of this sort where he should be facing federal time at all.

Okay, well, thank you so much for calling in. That was well detailed. And he, he said something that, that I personally feel. And so for you guys are saying, did it— you, you You team Diddy? Each one of them went back, including Gina. I talked to Gina. I talked to Gina. Gina called me the day the feds had brought the case and was asking me could she do a second interview, but for this interview she wanted to be paid. I said, Gina, you know I don't pay. But she was adamant. I need to be paid, Tasha. Can you send— I said, no, Gina. The only thing we do is take care of your flight and your hotel and some food. And if you need a babysitter for that baby, because Lord knows she take that baby everywhere. That baby done seen her get kicked down the stairs. That baby probably don't see her do freak-offs. That baby ain't miss a beat. Okay, Sean, come on now, fix your Wi-Fi. Let's go, let's go, Sean. Call them people and pay the bills. Listen, I need this, I need them deets. But I talked to Gina, and so they said they found Gina right after the case. Gina ain't going to work because Gina's always been Team Diddy.

Even today, even today with TMZ catching her in the, in the parking lot, you know, they asked her directly, they said, you know, because she mysteriously appears after the case is over, they said, well, do you think he's like a danger, you know, to society? She's like, no, I don't think he's dangerous. He said, well, do you, do you feel in danger? Like, if he were to get off, do you think that your life would be threatened? She was like, oh, absolutely not. I mean, the tune that she's singing is night and day from, um, your, your record-breaking interview that you—

yeah, that nobody believed. But the reason Gina sat with me and I asked her, I said, why are you here, Gina? She said, because Diddy cut me off. I said, well, what you mean cut you off? She said, he cut me off financially. He moved me from wherever she was from, okay, gave her $5,000 a month month, put it under the marketing budget, okay? And that's how she paid her bills. So when he cut her off, she wasn't mad that he beat her, she wasn't mad that he kicked babies out of her stomach, she wasn't mad that he was sleeping with Cassie or any other girl, she wasn't mad about any of that. She was mad because he cut her off financially. And guess what? After that interview, he called her, he sent a private jet— matter of fact, he had his son call her, sent her a private jet to pick her up from where she had did the interview from. I think we did that interview in Atlanta. So he sent the private jet to her to get her, brought her back, apologized, and upped her pay from $5,000 to $10,000 according to her. And she has been there ever since. And that's why you saw her pop up on the internet with Yung Miami, fighting with Yung Miami about I was here first. And then Yung Miami was like, well, you were either. How does she know that? Because they all get down together. This is how Diddy gets down. And by the way, somebody is, uh, circulating, uh, tapes, uh, on Lori Harvey.

Really?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

Yeah. And I literally— I saw the image and I deleted it because I did not ask to receive this information. But apparently that's why she's been so quiet, according to sources.

The videos with Diddy, allegedly, of her and Diddy.

I don't know who she with. I just know that there's tapes of her. So was it Future taping her? Was it the— what, what's the little young actor name? The little— who? Dancin' Idris? Was it Diddy? Who got Steve Harvey's daughter allegedly in a tape is the question. The only person we knew around here that was taping shenanigans, and her hair looked like it had a lot of baby oil on it in the back, was Diddy. I said, oh no, this This is— oh, absolutely not. Not—

well, I mean, like father, like son. Justin Combs was dating her too, so—

that's right, dated her. She tries to— she tries to kind of pivot when people try to bring that up to her, but yeah.

Well, he dated Draya. Draya, uh, the model, uh, you know, My Holiness Can Be Deleted, Basketball Wives. Draya dated both the son and Diddy at the same time too.

I didn't know that.

Okay. Oh, the pictures are online. Wow. But she got her legs wide open, breasts open, and son right there, and, and, and, and Diddy right there. They both going in it. Yeah. And we're gonna say allegedly in case it gets too thick.

But Sean, as you were saying, so public opinion I get with Diddy, a lot of people don't like him and they want him to pay for so many other sins that he has committed. This is why when they do juries, they make sure that it's an unbiased approach, meaning that they don't know much about the person. It's not that they don't know them at all, but they just don't— haven't been keeping up with the keep up. So when they do sit down and hear both sides, they can decide based off of no usually preconceived notions. So with that being said, with people not necessarily agreeing with Diddy, but it's these charges— we do agree that Diddy is guilty of a lot of stuff when it comes to Tupac and allegedly Kim Porter and stuff, but that's public opinion, not what he's being tried for. What he's being tried for— and again, my opinion— I believe that the prosecution were more so worried about their rate, their conviction rate, than worrying about making sure that these charges stick and that he goes down. The African charge and the racketeering charge obviously are the two biggest ones that carry the highest his prison sentence. So that's why I feel like they were gearing for those things. But just like Jay said earlier, in order for these RICO charges to go through, they have to prove that this criminal act happened with many people underneath his umbrella. We get that Diddy was the mastermind, like no one is knocking that point. It's proving that point is where the problem is going to come in, because you have to collect that evidence that you have against the other parties his staff and other people that they knew that this was going on. Again, if I'm your assistant and you're paying me to do certain things and you tell me to go put candles in a bathtub full of baby oil and Astroglide, I'm just doing what you are commanding. What does that have to do with me being a part of a criminal enterprise? And I thought that that was the prosecution's job to differentiate, to differentiate that. And what— who knew that this was a criminal enterprise as they were doing these things, and who didn't. And I don't think they did a good job with that at all. I feel that they lacked in those areas. There's all type of holes in those stories. And I also agree with Jay when she stated earlier that Jane Doe was a terrible witness. Yeah, she should have just been left completely out. Just rock with Cassie, because Cassie, the longevity, the history that she has with him the information that she came forward with. Again, they built this whole case surrounding what she wrote inside of a lawsuit, but then there's, you know, error when it comes to that because a lot of the things that Cassie stated in her lawsuit, she did not state in this trial. She did not.

She— listen, and she kept going back even while she was still married to say that, oh, he— Diddy raped her when they went for a reckons— like a closure date. But then later on that night, she gave gave him some pussy.

Like, yeah, and you could drop a pin when the prosecutor— so when the prosecutor was doing the closing arguments, right, they had to kind of go through the summaries of each victim. So when they did Cassie, you could hear a pin drop when she said that, well, she was raped or assaulted— sorry, I know this is YouTube— but then she went back. She— that night, the same night, not only went back to have consensual relationships with him. And what— and, and so what they did in the trial, and again, I'm not saying they did a good job of it, yeah, but the prosecutor tried to bring on a psychologist to explain to the jury why in anyone's right mind would they be sexually assaulted, be all these bad things that, you know, Sean talks about in his series and things like that. Why would you go go through all of that and knowingly keep returning, keep returning, keep returning. The way they tried to combat that was with a psychologist talking about, you know, almost like Stockholm syndrome or how victims, um, react. The problem here is there's truly a price tag with all these women, right? And I think, as Tasha mentioned before, that is what drove them returning back more than anything. I'm not saying— because again, I'm not a psychologist— I'm not saying some of the mental stuff didn't drive them back. Absolutely. But it was the price tag. For you to say Gina's, you know, allegedly her money went up after your interview, for, uh, Jane Doe to still be receiving $10,000 a month for her rent to this day and having her lawyer paid, which I don't know why that's a conflict of interest. I don't know why was not brought up. The fact that she still has legal representation paid, she still has a home, all these things. It is the price tag, unfortunately, that drove these women back. And it's just crazy to me that— and I'm not saying any amount of money would make this okay, so let me just preface it with this— but $10,000, you were making that as the Fashion Nova mom. Remember Remember, she was originally— yeah, that's the Nova model. We're alleging is Jane Doe. So I'm like, they pay a lot. Like, I don't— you were doing other things before him. Because why is $10,000 so attractive? To me, that's not a lot of money.

Remember how she, she started eyeing him? Her friend, her best friend was fucking him. So when the best friend went and got married That's when she moved in and pursued Diddy. She was targeting Diddy for his money, and she still gets it, right?

But I just— to me, again, I'm not saying sell yourself for any of that.

Ain't nobody— they flying you in. Ain't nobody dragging her down no hallway by her hair, right? Ain't nobody did that to her, right?

Yeah, I, I think Like I said, it was the price tag that drove these women. And you know, even when certain witnesses— even when they were describing some of the things that Jane talked about in the closing argument— so a little, a little inside tea. Yeah. So what's her name? Is it Sarah, the one they call Pumpkin?

Uh-huh.

Is it there? So Sarah and Misa were in the audience, and every time they would talk about something that happened with Jane, they would kind of turn to each other and nod, like almost like they were maybe recalling some of the things going on. So it's not that we don't believe that none of this happened. This is not, oh, they're not believable and things like that. The issue is, even if you are to be believed, if most of what you're telling me is consensual, then we have a problem with the case. The minute— that's why they played those longer videos of the freak-offs. They wanted to show how consensual it was. They showed all the consensual text messages and, and all sorts of things. And so I don't know, I just think—

and let me jump in, and Sean, I'm gonna let you respond to that, but let me jump in. I, I'm just gonna play devil's advocate for a second, okay? As a woman, you know, sometimes we want to Sometimes we don't, right? And then sometimes even when we don't fuck, we understand the man that we love still wants to do it. And so we do it. Is that coercion? Is that rape? Or is that, you know what, let me just open my legs. True, all I do is receive. I ain't got to do nothing but lay down, give him some, and be done with it.

I don't know if it's sexual assault, but it could be considered coercion when you look at the elements that they kept driving home in this case. So they said coercion as it relates to Jane Doe and Cassie are the following: the drugs, when he would hit them, when he would threaten to take money away. Even with Cassie, I mean, supposedly he would take away her laptop, her phone. He would take their items and their money away.

So there's something like a child that was on punishment, right?

So They're saying, dude, so sex— so to meet the elements of Cassie or Jane Doe being— okay, they had to, either through fraud, coercion, or force, made to have sex across state lines. So you break down, well, what's the fraud? That a male talked about the fraud, how he would lie to them. Okay, I don't think that's that strong, but whatever, that, that's the fraud. But the coercion is if you're drugging the people, if you're beating up on them. The 2016 Intercontinental video, they're claiming that was a freak-off, and that is an example of her trying to leave and her— him physically forcing her to come back. I mean, let's be honest, if they did not have that tape, they wouldn't actually have much of a case, because that is the strongest example they had, again, of an alleged freak-off.

Thank you.

But you know what's interesting, and I I need to, because like I said, and I did say this from the beginning, I am not your lawyer. This is not legal advice, but we are discussing legal topics. Um, but something that's interesting, and I gotta, I gotta think, I gotta go back to a colleague and figure this out. Males— not male, but fatherhood. The guy that called it a few minutes ago said something that was interesting right before the, uh, closing argument. Or right after the closing argument— no, no, it was before the closing arguments— there was this thing like, oh, they dropped charges, they dropped charges. So they didn't actually drop charges. What they did was they dropped legal theories to support the RICO charge. So what I'm trying to figure out, according to the prosecutor's letter, they said that the jury didn't have to consider arson, they didn't have to consider, uh, arson or kidnapping. They took that away from RICO. So what I'm trying to figure out, Tasha, is why is it still on the instruction sheet? Maybe, maybe they printed—

that's what I was trying to figure out. Why is it still there?

I think it was a mistake because literally there's a letter from the prosecutor that says, again, this is jury instructions: jury, when evaluating RICO in this case, you no longer have to consider the following things. And they said 3 things. They said you don't have to consider arson as a to the RICO, any allegations of arson, kidnapping, and they actually said aiding and abetting prostitution. Those were the 3 things they said. Again, as it relates to RICO, you don't have to consider those things anymore because you do have to consider the other thing.

So, so I don't—

I'm gonna have to find out. Maybe they print— again, they may have printed out the sheet before.

Well, to me, that's, that's grounds for a possible, you know, things that he could appeal on, or under the Rule 29 of them asking the judge to acquit altogether. So I need to find out why they can go there.

Yeah, it shouldn't be on the sheet.

Sean, Sean, what do you want to add?

Um, so to jump back to the, um, Cassie going back after he allegedly, you know, R-A-P-E-D'd her, I don't feel like it's fair to leave out that their, their long-standing history. Now, I'm not going to go into traumas and all of that best stuff, because again, I'm not a doctor, so I can't state if Cassie was going through any Stockholm or anything like that. But just due to the longevity of their relationship, rather she came in using him or not, she was underneath that spell. Diddy does— I've never encountered him before, but just watching how he moves and whatnot, there is a certain presence that he has that is very intimidating. So I can definitely see her returning to do something when you have your— your life is set up through this man at this point. So he controls everything that goes on with you. So in her mind, she may have been going back and forth like, did he just r-word me or did he not? Did he just r-word me or did he not? And then there's also being thrown in there that she was with Alex at the time. So was this just a ruse so that Alex didn't leave her because he found out or had clue that she had been dealing with him still after this. He, as he comes in as the heroic, you know, Captain Saver when it comes to Cassie, because a lot of people do look at Alex like that. It's like the hero of the story. He came and he swept her off her feet and married her and had a family and whatnot, got her out of this horrendous lifestyle. But at the same time, Alex works for Diddy. Alex and Cassie met through through Diddy. Cassie was cheating on Diddy with Alex. So at that point in time, when her still dealing with Diddy, at that point when she said that he ordered her, were they still together? Because at that time with him, he, or when she was with Ryan at the beginning, he was— she was technically cheating on Diddy with Ryan. Ryan was Diddy's, um, trainer and also his son Justin's trainer for football. And it went from that to Diddy letting Ryan train Cassie as well. And then their relationship allegedly brewed off of—

you mean Alex? You mean Alex?

Alex, Cassie. So then it's like Alex kind of ran away with the plug when it came to Cassie, because he was just— that's how I mean, that's how I look at it, you know. He ran off with the plug. So at that point, was Cassie still with Diddy. So was she conflicted, you know, at that point? She's in her eyes like, I'm not supposed to be doing this, I'm not supposed to be with you, because she's left multiple times. Even while dating Kid Cudi, she was leaving her boyfriend Kid Cudi's house to still go do FOs with Diddy. So again, we have to— all of that has to be added in there, you know. We can't just say like, oh well, you get R-worded by somebody and you come right back. Well, look at the hotel video. If somebody does that to most people, you— they probably wouldn't return, but she did. And that is to me an example of Cassie going through DV. And I have to add another point. Was Cassie ever— based off of the testimony, was she ever really his girlfriend? I heard, based off what— from what I'm getting from the transcripts and everything, I hear a pimp and a hoe. Oh, that's what I got. That from it, you know. Again, being the main B, uh, with pimps and whatnot— I've said this before— they are abusive towards their prostitutes, you know, and whatnot, their escorts. They do the— all of the people that are working for the pimp usually wants to be at the top, you know, of the totem pole. We've heard examples of her being jealous of Kim Porter on the stand, somebody that wasn't necessarily treated how she was. She was given the keys to the kingdom, and Cassie seems as if she wanted those things, that keys, but Diddy was not offering it to her. So it seemed that at times she was desperate to make herself matter more. So again, all of those things have to be factored in. Was this even a relationship at this point when you— the same charges that they're trying to charge Diddy with, they have given Kathy immunity for? So you can't look at Diddy for being guilty and not look at Cassie the same way. We have to look at the charges Diddy has, not public opinion of all of these crazy outlandish things that he's done to me. But we know Diddy needs to pay, we get that, but it has to be done properly. It has to be done the right way. So again, when it comes to Cassie and that situation, it is a horrible, um, place to be put in, a horrible predicament to be put in when you do feel that you have been R-worded because it's all up to you and your body. If your body is telling you this is not right, this is not something that you want, then to me you are being violated. But if your body's telling you something else and you're just kind of unsure within that moment in time, then I guess it's still kind of like up to you, you know, to figure out what actually transpired. And she may still be confused by that, or she could have just been using that as a crutch within this case to make his charges seem more genius at the same time. You can look at it.

And thank you, those were some good points. And I did want to add, because I forgot to add this major point, um, when it came to Gina. So Gina calls me when the indictment comes down, and she's basically, um, asking me to pay her. She said she wants to do a second interview, but I need you to pay me. I said, Cass— I mean, I said, uh, Gina, you know we don't pay. And then she was like, but I need to be paid. I said, no, we can fly you in. She said, I could fly myself in. She said, I'll fly myself in, just pay me. So at that moment, I was like, no, I'm not paying her. Why does she want to be paid? Because she is trying to use that as leverage, in my opinion, to say that everything that she said on my platform that I paid her to say, that it wasn't true, so that they could discredit that interview that the feds were already looking at anyway, because that was full testimony. And so to hear that she disappeared, I'm not shocked because Like I said, she told me personally the only reason she was sitting down with me was because Diddy cut her off financially. And you gotta understand, these, these women— and, and talking to Gina, like, beautiful girl, beautiful girl. I don't like to say you know, just because a person has a certain job that they may not be intelligent, right? Because I've seen people, servers at Waffle House, and I just— when I was a manager, if a server told me they work for Waffle House, I wouldn't give a damn if it was 5-star restaurant, I hired them. Because their memory was a lot sharper than somebody coming in off the street that just wanted to serve or served in other restaurants. They just moved a lot faster, you know what I'm saying? They were just a lot more attentive. They, you know, they're getting they getting juice, they doing a lot of things. Whereas one server that came from another 5-star restaurant was slow as hell. Just slow. So I don't like to use that, but Gina was probably— talking to her intellectually was like watching paint dry. So you just feel like she didn't have a lot of options. No, she didn't have a lot of options. She's a beautiful girl, but like, this is— I mean, how big does it get? And like they said, Cassie had the money. Stated to one of her friends, like she had quoted, you know, Jay-Z's taken, so where would I go? Who else would I date? Who's bigger than Jay-Z at the— at that point in the entertainment world? And so when it comes to Gina, and like I said, Gina, Gina definitely wasn't all there because she wanted to party when she was in Atlanta on our dime, and she asked me to watch her baby.

I said, Gina, Wow, it's interesting that, uh, something that— again, I just like to get inside, see just things that I'm—

go ahead, go ahead, real quick.

Sean said something about Diddy's presence, and, and, and it is interesting because I wasn't even that far away from him, but there is something about his presence that pulls you I mean, even the judge seemed a bit mesmerized. I mean, at the end he said, oh, I've never heard a judge in a federal criminal trial, oh, how you feeling? How you doing? You doing okay? You know, it— there is something about him, whether it be man or woman, that pulls you in and does make you feel a certain way. So I, I say that all to say that I'm not I'm not saying there's nothing to the psychology claims, like Sean says. I do think there's some psychology in there that pulls the woman in. But when you look at all the evidence that showed that so much of this was consensual, when it shows that they went back so many times, I think again that is what's going to create reasonable doubt in this case. And if there is a hung jury, because again we talked about this in the, in the first half of the live. You have to have 12. It can't be 11. It has to be 12. So we got 5 charges— 2 for Cassie, 2 for Jane Doe, and 1 RICO. We got 5. We gotta get 12 people on all 5. I don't see that happening. Now let's say we get 12 on one. He's still found guilty, but obviously he won't do as much time. And as Tasha Latasha Kebe said he'll probably appeal it, uh, and so it should be interesting to see what happens. Um, I don't know if we're gonna get any more intel about the jurors, but they definitely said Juror 25, the gay white 51-year-old PhD, and how they get down.

I know you probably ain't— I don't know, we ain't gonna assume, but like, did you The 51-year-old white male that's a gay man that's juror is having issues with the intent to distribute, distribute sex party versus sex party, you know what I'm saying? Consensual versus consensual. We're gonna take a viewer's, uh, uh, call right quick. Who is— who's waiting? Kiki. Kiki, what's your, uh— sorry, where you calling from, Kiki? Hey, I'm calling from Florida. Okay, shout out to Florida. Okay, what do you want to, uh, say? You want to give comment? You want to give a comment or you want to ask a question? I want to give a comment. Okay. I'm reading the chat, right, the comments in the chat, and I don't think that people realize how karma works, how reaping what you sow work. Like, at the end of the day, from the naked eye looking at this case, it does look weak unless you literally go into the legalities of it and see, okay, if you piece this with that, then I see how they can get to the that.

But if you look beyond what's being—

what's going on now, saying that the case is weak— before this trial started, the internet was in an uproar. Oh, he did this to rest in peace Pac and Biggie and Kim Porter, which we don't know, we're not there. However, if he, he did what we assume he did, we don't get to choose when we pay or how we pay, but what, what we put out there, 90% of the time we get it back. This case, you're saying this is a spiritual— this is a spiritual war pretty much? I mean, to me it is. I'm not religious by far. I've lived, but I'm very spiritual. And I believe, like, I've seen some people do the worst things in life, go through 20, 30 years later. One little mistake can take— can change your whole life. So even if we want to this case is weak. I mean, it can be, but do you really think that lady from the club who got her face separated by a hot leg care if Jane Doe wanted to do a freak-off? That woman don't care. She want them to get him regardless of how they get him. She want him done. Like, I'm quite sure Cassie mama don't care whether or not he hung somebody over a balcony. You turn— like, that was—

you turned my daughter into a a fucker.

So I want you gone. Like, I don't care if you did what they're accusing you of now. If you did what people assume you did, then yeah, you're gonna have to pay one way or the other. It may not seem right because, hey, he didn't do this, he was— this wasn't so bad. Like the last caller say, well, you know, just passing the blunt can't be distributing. Well, sir, put the dope down and you won't even have to worry about it. But at the end of the day, in the eyes of the law, you're going to jail if you get caught. Like, it may seem small, however, you have to think about what you put out there. Eventually you will have to pay for that. Thank you, thank you so much, Kiki. And yes, that, that is another spiritual factor that we do have to factor in, is that, you know, the universe only understands what you give it, and what you give it is going to definitely give back. So what you, what you ask for. And so, um, I do know if he does get off, he's gonna have probably one of the biggest, um, brand endorsements with baby oil, with Johnson Johnson. Um, they are definitely going to capitalize off of this, and he's probably going to throw the biggest party ever out of the country. Um, Diddy party. And a lot of people are going to be paying a lot of money to go slide in baby oil pools. It's going to happen. Okay, we got another caller real quick. Um, what's your name and where you calling from?

Hi, um, my name is Fax. How you doing?

I'm good, how are you? And where are you calling from?

I'm calling from Texas.

Okay, shout out to Texas. What do you want to, uh, what thoughts do you want to give on this, uh, trial? Do you think he's gonna— you think he's gonna get time or you think he's gonna get off?

I don't think that the case is strong enough. I mean, okay, he's been painted a picture in the media and we all believe that he should be under the jail for the things that the media has been displaying about him. A lot of people have been saying that he's been sex trafficking children. They saw children at the parties. They're going on interviews talking about these children, but none of this is coming up in the trial. Where are all these people? Why weren't they called as witnesses in regards to sex trafficking? Because that would be clear, you know, that he was sex trafficking. There's children, they're involved in sex I mean, I'm not seeing it. I feel as though the case is weak. Um, they didn't provide enough evidence to prove that this man is trafficking anyone.

I mean, from what I'm hearing, these are people that are escorts.

They do this for a living, with or without Diddy. So he's paying people to do what they actually do.

So I don't really—

I don't, I don't see how it's sex trafficking at all. I don't understand how any of the things that they're saying in regards to Rico, it's, it's just weird.

So now I'm starting to believe rather than—

I mean, yeah, he's a monster for doing all the things he did to this woman, but again, she kept going back and going back and going back and going back. At some point, we have to look at it for what it is. These people were just involving themselves in a nasty person. Now, should he be convicted for the rest of his life for it? I don't think so, because I'm not seeing where they prove it. I did want to make a clarifying point though.

Thank you so much, I appreciate you. But go ahead, uh, Jay Carter. Uh, Jasmine, you, you, you got that? Okay, coming up. Okay, so go ahead, Jay.

Just really quickly, because I have about 2 more minutes, the sex trafficking actually doesn't relate relate to the escorts. Actually, the escorts, they do this for a living, right? Okay. Sex trafficking charge is as it relates to Cassie and, um, Jane Doe.

Okay.

Escorts is for that third charge, which is the transportation of prostitution. So look at them separate— separately. They're not saying the escorts were sex trafficked. What they're saying is, okay, should not have been flown across state lines for sex Okay, all right, so a good point.

Um, Sean, how do you want to respond to, uh, what she just said? Because I know you want to see his ass under the jail. You want him to get life, don't you?

I do. I absolutely feel like, um, again, I wish the prosecution would have had a stronger case. I do think that they have enough for the jury to convict him on some of the charges. I just don't think it's going to be a slam dunk with all of the charges getting a full conviction. I do not feel that way. Um, But I did want to watch a Carter say before she leaves, earlier the question was asked, like, Diddy getting on the stand, a good idea, a bad idea? In my opinion, I feel like it was a great idea. And did he— for Diddy's defense team to not let him get up there, because if this is retried or anything like that, they already know the prosecution's defense, they already know what they're coming with. But when it comes to the defense, they're completely— they have no idea how the defense team is going to come. And also, with him not bringing any character witnesses and whatnot, if it did come to— or they have to do the trial all over again, then they could do all of that then, and that would throw the prosecution off because they have really no idea how Diddy's defense team would come. So I think overall, win, lose, or draw, it was good for Diddy's defense team to not let him get up there. Like, regardless of him further incriminating himself or saying the wrong thing or anything like that. I think that was the least of their worries. It was more so of, if this don't go our way, we at least need the best defense prepared for when we go after them again, for whether we're appealing this or, you know, whatever. So I know the verdict is not in for the people that are saying that, that's more trolling. And then what they're going back and the, with the, the women that were a part of these FOs and stuff like that, going back, going back Now to us, a lot of us can see that it probably did— again, no doctor— stem towards a trauma. Not all of the women were going back to Diddy simply because of his money. It's his presence alone is hypnotizing. So a lot of them were going back for many reasons. Do I think that money was the main one? Yes, 100%, because what is all of this for? What is the repetitive coming back and forth knowing what type type of treatment that you're about to endure and whatnot, but you will endure it. So you're getting something out of this beyond just being around him, beyond being in a nice home or on a vacation or something like that. There's more to it. Why this keeps getting brought up is because, again, the jury does not follow these stories how we follow these stories in the public. So when they're hearing that these women are going back and back and back and back, they're going to be thinking in their mind like, okay, well well, why are you— why did you go back? And they're not going to say something like, oh, Stockholm syndrome, and oh, well, they probably did. They don't know the background of these women. They don't know how long Cassie and what she endured and how he did basically groom her into becoming a madam. Because in my eyes, that's what Cassie was. Cassie was a beautiful glorified madam. Is that simple? Now, do I think that that was her intention? No. I do think that Diddy transformed her into that and transformed her into the mouthpiece. Like, I look at Diddy like Nino Brown from the movie New Jack City. All of these things were going on, but he made sure that he wasn't touching them. So when all of the drug deals and all of that stuff was happening with Nino, they could never catch him because he always had other people doing these things for him, which would bring in Rico, you know, the assistants and people that work clubs and the apartment buildings and stuff that he owned, they were doing a lot of illegal things. Now, those people, you can't convince me that when the raids were happening, them bagging up stuff, you know what you're doing is illegal. You know what you're doing is wrong, rather than an apartment building, a convenience store. All of this is wrong. But in Diddy's case, with the racketeering charges and the RICO charges, his employees, it's easy for them to say they did not know what was going on, that they did not know that this classifies as a crime, that this is a federal crime that they are committing when their boss is telling them to book a hotel room, when their boss is telling them to make sure that there's candles. And like, how can you put— like, and I don't think that the prosecution did a good job in differentiating the two so that we can see, like, red-handed that that you knew, Christina, that this was happening. You know, the only one that did was Cassie. Cassie knew that this was criminal and the things that she was doing. Then he could have did it himself. He could have found people himself. He made sure Cassie did everything. That's how I— why I feel that Diddy should go these charges, because he did know that he was running a criminal enterprise. He just had his employees in dark. So a lot of them were in the dark. But I do think, like Christina, I think she knew what was going on.

Of course Christina knew. Did my boss ask me to do that shit and he paying me $200,000, $300,000 a year? What do you need? What time do you want me to slip and slide on the baby oil into the room? Okay, uh, seriously, that's a part of what I'm supposed to do, is serve my boss, and I'm serving my boss. Jay Carter, do you have to go?

Yes, I have to go, but I wanted to just thank you, Tasha, for doing your own live coverage of this. I do consider you now one of the big media resources. Like I said, you may—

thank you—

very small, but the fact that they are always taking your stuff, quoting your stuff, repurposing your stuff— yes, you, you have— you have made it. We appreciate what you do with your edutainment, as I call it. As I said before, right now I'm a law professor. I host the Black Lawyer Lawyers Podcast. If you guys are looking for an attorney, you can go to theblacklawyers.com. There's podcasts, we have a free directory so that you can look for an attorney. We have a podcast where we bring on lawyers, judges, celebrity advocates, um, and the law. So please check us out. I'll definitely, um, make sure your team knows my schedule for tomorrow so I can maybe plug in a little bit.

Thank you.

I'm back and forth between New York and DC because you just never know when it's gonna drop. But definitely, I will, I will stay tuned in for your winos for sure.

I appreciate you, and we'll see you tomorrow. Thank you so much. As we're watching the jury, shout out to Jay Carter at the Black Lawyers Podcast. We will definitely be in contact. Uh, uh, stay right there, Sean. We're gonna load up some of the footage from the, the male sex workers that we, uh, interviewed. Okay, um, and so So I definitely want to hear from the viewers. I want them to give commentary on the, on the particular coverage. A lot of people didn't even see this. And so they don't even know that this exists. Okay, so we're just going to take a few moments, we're going to reset, we're going to upload those clips of these sex workers that actually worked with Diddy for many years and multiple times. One was dedicated to Cassie for about 8 years. And actually, he is about to sue Cassie in about 5 days. And so we're gonna hear from him when he comes back, as well as the other, uh, sex worker. If you are a TashaKLive.com subscriber, you've already seen this, or you should have, uh, on the platform, and how just extensive, um, and how graphic some of these, uh, sex sessions would go, okay? And so we're gonna exclusively put them out now on, uh, YouTube, okay? And so because it was slated only for our private site— and we'll be right back after the break, we got some we need to brag about, which means boldly raise a glass to Holt backstage. We'll be right back, okay? Let's go. Without you, I don't know where you'd be either. That's not, uh, that's an eviction notice. What the hell?

Okay, so I'm the source of all of our problems or something?

I've been here less than 5 minutes. Dancing problem.

Where's Malcolm? Malcolm, where's my money?

I have noticed you're behind on the rent.

Is there anything I can do to lighten the load?

Lighten the load? I'm calling to let you know that you are out of line.

Check your Cash App.

What?

You're not gonna do it, are you?

Tanya. Not the time for jokes, Keith. Malcolm! I need my money! I'm not a TV bitch.

I'm a bitch that's on TV. You understand? I'm not one of these TV fucking bitches. TV fucking bitches is like, no bitch, I will grab you off camera. I don't even want the TV moment. I really want you to know what time I'm on.

Because if I don't get a, I'm sorry, I'm gonna stomp it out. Fuck this shit, bro! The fuck? They almost took me down. They was too heavy. What brings you in, Travis? Say something to me!

I'm sorry.

Better question. What are you going through? We're not fucking Travis. So what do you do for sex? It's called life. Life? Oh, life.

What's up, T?

I can't find any groundbreaking stories. This stuff is like Groundhog Day. Nothing new has came up. I do have a few. When we start the show, Keep it clean.

Okay, but you know the rumors out there, right?

I don't give a damn about the rumors.

About Shorty. Can anything be traced back to you? I mean, I do help with little things here and there.

Like what? What, you paying her rent?

Look at it this way.

We are getting older and not so attractive. More so you than me.

What better way than to pull the wool over your eyes than sex?

So What the fuck happened again?

The bitch set me up with a trans and I didn't even know it. Oh Lord Jesus.

So is it true?

The blogs and their unending desire to ruin our relationship.

So why is that picture of you with some bitch in a hair salon, Travis?

I said I'm gonna go in the clay room.

Now mind you, when I'm in this clay room, I said This nigga come in here in the next 2 minutes with fully dressed telling me to go, he's gay.

Is this true?

How you gonna ask me something like that?

Everybody talks to somebody. We're back. It's hot mic because we talking to people behind the scenes, so I apologize about that. All right, so we're back. We are watching, uh, the verdict, okay? And so just in exclusively, okay, and so they've selected, I believe, juror number 5. Shout out to Peaches Royale, okay, is the 4th person. And so what we're, uh, exclusively getting now is that— let me read it, let me make sure I get it— is that jurors in Sean Diddy Combs' federal criminal trial said they have reached a verdict on 4 of the 5 counts, but they cannot reach a verdict on count 1, which is the major one. That one carries the life sentence, which is a racketeering conspiracy. What happens next? Both prosecutors and defense attorneys said that they want the judge to push the jury to continue deliberating. In their note to the judge, the jurors wrote that we have jurors with unpersuadable opinions on both sides. That's a good thing for Diddy right now. I'm sure he's happy to hear that. Okay, and let me see the charges. Combs, 55, is charged with 5 counts: 1 count of racketeering conspiracy and 2 counts of sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution. If found guilty on the most serious charges, he could face up to life in prison. Okay, and so count 1, as we've all said, is not that, uh, they didn't have a strong case for it, in my opinion. Sean, come back. Come on back up here. How you doing, Sean?

I'm doing great.

Did you hear what I just read?

Yeah, I'm reading it too. Um, CNN, they're live right now. I'm discussing it again. Prosecution, they did not do the best job with this count, so it is going to be hard. It's not going to be an easy decision to sit there based off of the evidence that they have. I think it would have been easier if it was a true slam dunk. If it was a true slam dunk, then they would already be— the verdict would be in, fully in. They would be ready to announce it. But, and then on both sides, it's a good thing for Diddy but a bad thing for him too, because that means that if, if cooler heads have to prevail and come in, I think that I, I just don't see them finding them guilty. And I wanted to, as much as I wanted to.

They haven't, they haven't.

I don't think that they will. I, I don't, which is unfortunate because the other charges are kind of basic.

Did he do this? Yes or no? Yes. Like I said, as a juror, if I'm going by the law and it's, it's low, like, it's like, you know, like, uh, Jay Carter was saying, it's kind of low-hanging fruit. It's easy. Distribute, did you transport for sex? That's yes. Okay, but for the racketeering conspiracy, that this was a criminal organization when this was done in his bedroom. This was his private life, you know. And there were all sorts of theories and conspiracies out here that all these other celebrities were invited into Diddy parties, and the only one that we have confirmation on is Kanye.

Yes. Oh, not, um, I think that this charge that they're having a— the issue with is the only charge that I feel that Diddy would truly, truly try to appeal. I think this is the charge that I'm going back to court, like, no matter what. If he gets found guilty of this, he's definitely going back to court as soon as possible to appeal it. This is another reason why I feel that the jury just may go with, you know, not guilty on this life sentence charge, because with what prosecution brought forward, does he deserve to go to jail for the rest of his life based off of a conspiracy?

That's weird. Conspiracy, not he actually did it. They're saying that he intentionally or unintentionally conspired to do that. And if they don't win on that, I'm telling you, they failed. The prosecution has failed. And it already seems like that. Who are they going to convince to come in now to turn, to change their mind? No one.

They don't have anyone that could come in because it's over at this point. This is why they're— they should have went hard on discharge instead of going hard to prove to us that he is the freak. Like, we get it, he a freak, he get down like that, he's sweet, right? That boys, girls, everybody, monkeys, dogs, you know, all the— like, we get it, okay? But did you prove that he needs to go to jail for the rest of his life based off of a conspiracy of a criminal organization that you are taking small bits of information and off of a witness. Because don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Cassie, but I don't think that her testimony— it's the cross-examination to me that really has the jury conflicted. Because yeah, Cassie could have gave up a lot of that information prior to being cross-examined if she just would have been honest about it. Like, yeah, there were certain things that happened. Cassie did stay on the stand that she treated people a certain way, and she regrets how she was treating people and whatnot. When those audios came out of her threatening people's lives and stuff like that, we— if that— I can only imagine what she did to other people and whatnot. So I don't think that Cassie's testimony was strong enough to state that this is RICO. Let's convict him of RICO based off of Cassie's lawsuit and her testimony. I just don't feel like it was enough.

I gotta get Mel back on the line because he's down there in verdict has been reached. I don't think that they're going to be— I don't know, it's almost what, it's 5 PM now, so this verdict won't be probably read until in the morning. What do you think?

I'm agreeing. I think that it'll be in the morning because it is first.

We'll be live. I'm Jasmine. We got to get up. We got to get up 9 AM. Okay, we got to get up 9 AM. We got to be outside the courthouse. I need Mel, I need everybody back on. Listen, Sean, stay here for a second. Hey, our guests, wait backstage. I wanna play some footage, okay? Whose video are you bringing up first, Jasmine? Okay, so this is Dave. Dave was actually subpoenaed by the grand jury. Okay, and he had to answer questions for prosecutors. Uh, in his defense, he claims that he did not say the things that the prosecution wanted him to say in terms of, you know, saying that all of this was forced and that, you know, Cassie looked forced. And so, um, we interviewed him extensively, and his interview is just— it's crazy. And so listen, we have snippets. Uh, the entire interview is live on TashaKLive.com. I would say viewer discretion is advised, but we're going to go ahead and hear from Dave. Uh, Jasmine, go ahead and play this clip real quick.

She's lying. She was a part of this.

So what was the hotel video about? Did you know the specifics of that particular freak-off and what happened?

I don't, but I have something to say about that. From what I've read about that freak-off, they were with another guy, Jules Theodore. If there was a male escort in the room, why didn't that male escort testify to the fact that Cassie was trying to escape. Here's what I believe, that that guy would have testified that the argument was not because Cassie was trying to escape the freak-off. It was probably because she was jealous because he was texting other women from his phone. Because I saw her get like that. She would watch to see who he was texting. She was his girlfriend. She gets jealous. He's a billionaire and he's a hoe. She know he got a bunch of girlfriends. She know he don't want her. So of course she's on a stance where she has to make sure that this guy is not cheating on her. She wants to know. So they probably were in the room, um, she went through his phone, she might have saw something, she thought he was texting a woman, she decided to leave, they got into a fight, he got caught up. Now here's the interesting part. I heard during this trial when I was watching that about 3 weeks after, they had a freak-off in Miami with me.

These are the texts that I heard.

Now they have this fight, she gets beat up, she has to recover. A couple weeks later they decide to have another freak-off. She tells him they need to change the energy, they need to change the person. The next thing they do is fly to Miami. They call me. How is this someone who's being sex trafficked? And she clearly tells you we need to change the enemy. Then she calls the same guy because this was what, 2016, 2015 when he beat her? By then I was sleeping with her 6 years, 7 years by then. She deliberately calls me from New York to have sex with her in Miami. Money 3 or 4 weeks after he beats up in this hotel and is making her have sex? Make it make sense. She's lying. She was a part of this. They were fighting, probably because he had a woman. She didn't like that. He beat her up. She got over it because the truth is she wasn't loving.

Sean, yeah, unmute yourself. Unmute yourself. Wow.

Again, I think that you would have to be be really close-minded to not think that at some— although I still view Cassie as a victim, you're a victim is a victim, but I do feel that she's way more involved in what was going on than what she wanted to lead on. Cassie is not innocent when it comes to a lot of these situations with these FOs and also organizing the situation so that it benefits her the most. She was definitely benefiting out of all of these situations, and I think that she would have continued. I think the only reason Cassie stopped doing it is because of the image. Everyone saw that she was with Alex when she had got married and whatnot. I think that was the main reason why she's like, okay, well, I truly can't do this anymore. But I don't think that stopped Cassie from wanting money. I don't think that, that did that. And Diddy had to have been taking care of her for 10, 11 years. Purse, and you don't want that to go away. Ryan— or Ryan— Alex, her husband, he doesn't bring in much money. So with that being said, I think it's probable cause for Cassie to go after Diddy for financial compensation. When you're used to living a certain lifestyle and having more children, financial woes— she's been taking care of people like her mother and whatnot for a very long time, which gives more incentive for her mother to push her back to Diddy, which she did. You know, like, oh well, you know, Cassie's mom, you know, this is justice for her. It's like, how? When you were encouraging your child to go back to this individual knowing what was going on.

We know what background her mammy come from. We already know. We already know, girl. Where you gonna go? What you gonna do? You can't stay here, baby, so you got to go do what you got to do. Your mama sold a little pussy. Everybody sold a little. I done took a few slaps. Get your ass down there now. Listen, let me hear from one of the viewers. Um, who's waiting backstage? Queen Lovebug. So the verdict is in. They got, uh, they can't agree on, uh, the RICO conspiracy, but all the other counts, 2, 3, 4, and 5, I believe they reached a verdict on. How do you think this is going to go?

Oh, that's—

I knew that the other charges would be a little easier, um, but the RICO charge, I do agree that, um, the prosecution could have done a better job for— because these are average everyday people who, who you're going to give instructions to, um, and in regards to what law to follow in order to reach the verdict. And it could be pretty difficult to—

I mean, we have 12 different people, 12 different personalities and opinions.

So that's very difficult in just— if you just pull 12 people that you know together who has knowledge of the case. Like, I can't, I can't say that I can pull 12 people together that's gonna all, you know, agree on the same thing. Um, I do think that, I think that maybe some jurors may think like, I like, okay, like the bribery charge with the hotel, I think that's pretty obvious. Um, because the— he paid the $50,000— well, he actually paid $100,000, um, to, um, to the, to the guy, to the manager, as well as the guy that testified. Okay, so that's obvious. Um, but it has to be two. They don't have to be this, um, the same two. It could be any two. Me myself, I can see two, but I'm just one person. It doesn't mean that.

Do you think guilty or not guilty? Real quick before we move on to the next caller.

I, I say guilty, but as far as the jury goes, I don't think that they will find him guilty.

Okay. All right, thank you so much.

A lot of persuasion.

Yes, yes. Okay, uh, real quick, uh, Sean, I want you to listen to another clip from one of the sex workers. Okay, uh, Jasmine, go ahead and play this real quick. Or Rico on the stand?

No, because they knew we were going to say that she was complicit.

Like, I feel like they have to do some, some changes when it comes to the laws behind that, because if girls are choosing to have a pimp and the pimp is there to protect them and ensure that they're not getting mistreated during their encounters with men and stuff like that, and they have to pay the pimp for protection because like, how is he going to make money? You know, to me, even though yeah, he did all this shit, but I feel like the feds, they love a big cash out. $400 million is at stake that they're going to seize. I don't even think he'll have money for an appeal. The Justice Department will inherit $400 million that was, I guess, made off of sex trafficking or illegal criminal crimes using his organization, Bad Boy Records and all that stuff. And meanwhile, they get to retire off of that money. And it's like, why are you allowed to retire off of money that you say is made illegally and y'all get to use it to pay federal witnesses and pay for y'all retirement as well too? The money should be burned, right? Nobody should get the money.

True.

And it should definitely go to the true victims, some of the male prostitutes that this has happened to.

Sean. And to the viewers, Sean, so he is— Dave exclusively told us today that he is about to sue Cassie in 5 days.

I feel that he is well in his rights, and I also feel that other FOs should sue her as well. Um, that I, I don't think that— I don't think— I don't think you should be the only one. I don't. Number one, a lot of these men, they're health was definitely risk. Out of the whole trial, you hear nothing about Diddy nor Cassie nor anybody on that team doing any rapid test, making sure that anybody was checked and cleared before. This is why I don't feel like it was a criminal organization. Like, they, they didn't know, because that would be protocol. One of the first things to do if you're going to be finding prostitutes and escorts and whatnot for your boss, well, you want to make sure this person is clean. Because we heard nothing about protection being used, even when the freakout tapes were being watched in court, no one stated anything about contraception or anything like that. So again, she was putting a lot of people's health and whatnot at risk. Also pain and suffering. Look at all of the embarrassment that these people have had to deal with.

That's what Dave said. He said no one is considering the mental health and just us having to live every day because we're being plastered all over the media that we have to come out and do interviews. They're not. But if this was a woman, Dave said, quote, during our interview, if I was a woman, my identity would be protected. Why is the Jane Doe protected but why are the sex workers not?

Correct. And not only that, they are also being labeled things that they're not. Two of the men, the male escorts that got on the stand and testified, stated that they were not prostitutes, and they also stated that they were not trafficked. So I agree with him when he said what, no RICO charges, because he already knew or they already knew, that they would say that Cassie was complicit, that Cassie wanted these things to happen, that Cassie was no victim, she's like the boss. And also, we can tell, although I don't like Diddy, that this is a witch hunt with them going after him, because all— pretty much everybody that was involved that was supposed to be helping him with these RICO charges are all getting immunity. He's the only one that wasn't offered immunity. Community, but everybody else gets it. So everybody else gets to walk away from this scot-free, although the enablers— people say all the time need to be dealt with as well— none of the Diddy enablers are being dealt with, including Cassie, because she was an enabler as well. Whether you like it or not, flip it, turn it, dip it, she enabled everything that was going on with Diddy, even enabled him to continue to hurt and harm her. Again, that hotel video, you returned right after that, regardless of him dragging you back to that room, you still came back on your own two feet. You still walked back to him willingly.

That still happened.

In our interview that we did exclusively with Dave, the one who, uh, claims he serviced Cassie for 8 years and ended up getting her pregnant, uh, said to me in his interview on TashaKLive.com exclusively that there was a time where he felt like Cassie sexually assaulted him because she called him over knowing that her period was on, did not disclose that her period was on, made sure the lights was off during this particular encounter, and then came all over him. And then when he woke up, he said it looked like a crime scene. He said he could not even fathom what had just happened. Like, why would you do that to me? Why wouldn't you tell me? I asked him, I said, did you smell the period blood at least? He said no. He said she always smelled like lavender.

I mean, again, trauma, trauma. If he used that as an essay, why— I mean, I, I can't knock him. I can't tell him he's wrong. Just like with people with Cassie. Cassie said that she was R-worded by Diddy, so since she said that, we can't tell her that she's wrong. It would be being insensitive to say, oh no, that didn't happen to you, Cassie. But there is a different standard when it comes to men. Like with Cassie, we have to be careful with what we say and make sure that we are considering her and her feelings. But when it comes to these FOs, these men that were involved, there's no consideration. And they're also being labeled things that they're not. They're also being said that they went through things that they didn't. Cassie getting on the stand and telling them that she had bumps in her mouth, she had bumps around her vagina, that she was consistently having sex with these men with UTIs. Why wouldn't she be doing it on her menstrual if she's doing it with UTIs. So again, I would have to say, if that's how he feels, then he should sue. I believe all of the men that were involved with Cassie should sue her 100%.

She involved all the money that she's already been paid out from Diddy as well as the Intercontinental Hotel and spread it out and spread it out.

She is not the only victim. Why is she the only one getting paid?

I need to hear from the winos. Do you guys feel that the sex workers should sue? Please bring a viewer up in here while we're waiting on Flame Monroe to load up, um, right now and get his mic together. Sean, I hope you can stick around, uh, with Flame and, and, and give us some more commentary. I know I got y'all for free, so, you know, I appreciate y'all, you know, working for free for the winos. Hell, I'm working for free too. This live ain't monetized shit.

Girl, this ain't free. You had over 10,000 people up here. You can't pay for this type of promo.

Thank you. Yeah, we are streaming on Twitch as well as Facebook as well. Shout out to all audiences, everybody, all the wine, those spare girls spread out across the world. We got to get TikTok back on the live stream as well as, uh, X. So yeah, uh, who, who's waiting backstage? Birdie? Birdie, where you calling from? You got yourself muted, Birdie. Make sure y'all mics is on and ready to go, guys. We got a lot of folks waiting backstage while we, uh, conduct this verdict watch. The jury has reached a, uh, decision on counts 2, 3, 4, and 5, but on count 1, they cannot, which is the, the one that carries the life sentence, which is, in my opinion, a good thing. So, uh, who's next? Oh, Flame is here. So guys, please have your mics on. We're gonna have my friend— hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, we'll give Flame just a second. So we got a viewer that has a question. What's your name? What's your name? Hello guys, mics on. Producers backstage, could you make sure everybody has their mic on please? Who's next? Choose. How you doing, Choose? Where you calling from?

Minnesota.

Shout out to Minnesota.

Thank you.

Anytime. You think the sex workers should sue Cassie?

Absolutely. Trauma begets trauma, and although she was traumatized, she traumatized— it seems like she traumatized other people so that—

wow, yes, she better get the hell up out the country.

I mean, if that's what they want, if that, you know, literally if they feel like they were sexually assaulted, which, you know, Sean just explained, absolutely, you, you're complicit in your part as well, you know. And just like we've heard that Diddy had some, some issues. So, you know, it's just something that I, I don't— I recognize that when it's a man, it is, it is very much overlooked. It is very much, um, different. It's always more of a— in a sexualized way, like we just— they just must enjoy it just because it's sex. And that's not the case. So absolutely men can be assaulted.

Absolutely.

Absolutely, whatever she did, if she did something to hurt someone, she absolutely— whoever she hurt, they should sue.

Okay, well listen, thank you so much. We're gonna go ahead and take another caller. Shout out to Minnesota for repping the Winos. All right, we're gonna go ahead and introduce my friend and comedian extraordinaire Flame How you doing, baby? Hey, hey, baby.

That's my baby. Hi, boo.

How you doing?

You know, Tasha, I'm good. I'm fantastic.

How are you?

Fantastic. Glad to see you. I'm glad that you took a few minutes to come out and, and spend some time with us today. And I know you were in between like gigs and everything like that, so that's why you you in the car. And I was like, get Flame on now, because unfortunately we won't be able to get Ray J on today or any of our other guests, but we are going to be verdict watching tomorrow, so we'll have them on tomorrow. So, but Flame, as far as your thoughts on this entire Diddy trial, a verdict has been reached. Uh, the jury could not come to a decision on count 1, which was the, the big one, the RICO racketeering. Um, they have reached decisions on count 2, 3, 4, and 5. So we should expect them to be reading tomorrow or being forced to deliberate. Um, so that should be interesting tomorrow. But what are your thoughts on what's going down with Diddy?

Diddy, Diddy, Diddy, can't you see sometimes your baby will hypnotize me?

You know what, uh, I'm not laughing at, at the situation.

Uh, I think it's terrible, first of all.

For all parties involved, especially the women. Secondly, for the people that knew about it, didn't say anything, to hell with them, because you knew this was happening. Money.

And now the same situation is happening with the situation that we're in with this country. We're from the top.

You're allowing this shit to happen and go on and on and on without saying anything, which it doesn't make you complicit, but it makes you a coward that you're watching injustice justice.

And you watching things happen to women that we claim to actually love and respect. And a lot of men sat around, and a lot of women sat around and watched these things unfold and said nothing because they were afraid of losing their situation or possibly their life, from what some of these reports are possibly saying.

I don't know whether Diltie is— he is guilty or innocent, but from the tape that I saw, he kicked Cassie. I'm not with that at You don't— men don't— first of all, you're gonna fight a woman, but then for you to kick her repeatedly, and we saw this, you cannot unring a bell. If they lock his ass up, they lock his ass up.

That's how I feel.

And I don't want to see the trial, I want to see the tape. I want to see who's on the tape. By the way, when tape number 17 dropped, that was not me, that was AI.

That was not me, that was AI.

I want to see the tape. What was doing up in there. So Flame, you've been in Hollywood a long time. You done been around the big ones— Dave Chappelle, everybody. You ain't never been to no freak-off?

First of all, Dave don't do freak-off parties. And no, I have never been to a freak-off.

Have you freaked off on your own though?

Now you getting in my business, Latasha. Get out my business, lady.

Get out my business, lady. Girl, get out my business.

Look at her.

Shine, get your girlfriend.

Get your girlfriend. Do you think you're— what is it, 25? The gay white man, do you think that he is more so a Team Diddy because he sees a lot of Diddy himself like a fellow gay, or—

no, see, now that, that's where it gets a little cloudy for me. I don't want to say that all gays agree with each other. As you know, that most of the gay community don't even agree with with my point of view, especially when it comes down to protecting and defending a biological woman. So I'm not going to say that because then that's just putting them all in a box. I just believe that Diddy's lawyers threw enough doubt in it to say, hey, we're not sure.

That is where he is paying these lawyers the big bucks, because all you have to do is plant a seed of doubt to say, I don't see it like this, and you can win.

He's been paying great money to make these lawyers throw seeds of doubt in these judges' minds so he can get off on this case, and he may get off.

Okay, well, listen, we got an update I want to read to you both. The judge is now addressing both sides' proposals. The judge is back on the bench now. This is updated about 4 minutes ago, addressing both the prosecutors' and defense attorneys' proposals on how to move forward. The government has asked for a modified Allen charge. Okay. The defense says it's too early for that, and they seem to want more gentle language. Uh, an Allen charge is a set of instructions that asks the jurors to reexamine their own views and opinions in order to reach a decision. So basically, they're trying to force the jury to make a decision. What do y'all think?

I think that they are very— they're indecisive. I think it's 5 against 6, uh, 4 against— like, I think it's like more so closer to an even number.

They said it's 8 men and 4 women. Yeah, so I— like I said, I think everybody agrees, yes, him beating Cassie, him doing drugs, him, uh, flying prostitutes in and stuff, those are basic things, but the conspiracy. I just don't think it should have been a federal case. That should have been something that was handled at the state level. Flame, what do you think?

I think they're trying to do it on a federal case because I do believe that if he gets off, I, I believe that Donald Trump will pardon him.

I believe that in my whole spirit.

When he said that about a week or two ago, that if Diddy got off, would they—

they asked would he pardon him.

I've seen older tapes when, when Trump was a younger man and he was hanging out with Diddy.

There's no, there's no telling whether he are is on the tapes or not.

We don't know. But I do believe that he may pardon him because they hung out, they were buddies, they might know secrets about each other. That it is coming from way up high. Uh, I hate the fact that a lot of young women will see that and see the things that happened to Cassie and so many other women. And if he gets off, they'll think that that's okay, that that's the way life is. That is not the way life is, unfortunately. But if he gets off, it's sending a message teach.

There's so many younger women and men that this is how the way life works, which is not.

That's a heavy one.

I wish I would have been to a dinner party.

Cassie got paid. Do you feel like, huh, women, women are freaky.

Let me say some women are very free. Some women are very free.

Shaky.

Let me say that because they always say it's just a man, it's just a man. And she got paid, and I don't care that she got paid.

Abuse is still abuse. Pay me but don't kick my ass. Pay me but don't whoop me. Pay me and— but don't make me feel less than. Treat me at least as not— if I'm not your equal, at least treat me like that publicly.

But he humiliated her not only publicly but privately. And unfortunately, we saw those tapes. You cannot unring that I don't know what they're going to do, but I do believe Trump's going to pardon him. If I was Diddy, when Trump said he was going to pardon me, I would have been out in 3 days.

You were breaking up. You said when Trump said what?

That he would pardon Diddy. He would possibly pardon Diddy.

If I was Diddy, I would have fired all my lawyers that day and saved whatever money I had left. And just waited and pled guilty and got pardoned by Trump.

Okay, we just got another update from the judge. He says he intends to tell the jury, I ask that you keep deliberating. And so, um, Judge, uh, I don't even know how to say his last name, I don't care, A-Ran, A-Ron, um, said he intends to tell the jury, I ask that you keep deliberating, and that, um, then recite some of the lines about the deliberations in his instructions. So he's basically forcing their ass back into the room. I know they ready to go home, but I just don't think, um, they're going to make a decision because it is a very hard thing. And I knew that when they were fussing in the beginning, sending notes, it was— it had to do with that big one. The other ones are a slam dunk.

So, well, the big one, federal court. The other charges are state charges. The, the conspiracy charge is the big boy. That's the one that got the prosecution to be able to bring this into— make it a trial in the first place, um, based off of Cassie, which to me is a walking humiliation herself. Um, I don't think that she necessarily needs Diddy to humiliate her. Again, I'm all for victims, and Cassie to me is a victim, but I could say the same thing about Diddy. If Diddy was doing all of this stuff, then I'm sure somebody victimized him as well, but it does not excuse his behavior. It does not mean because somebody did this to you or showed you the ropes that you have to go around and do these things to other people. You did not. And the same thing goes for Cassie. Because Diddy showed you these ropes does not give you the right to go and create victims and just say that you're sorry later. Diddy did the same thing, although he lied and said that Cassie's lawsuit was fictitious and that none of those allegations were true. And then the hotel video dropped of us watching him pummel that girl through that hallway and whatnot. Then he comes with an apology video and he states that he was sorry. Well, Cassie did the same thing on the stand. She apologized to all of the people basically in the past while she was kicking it with Diddy that she victimized, ridiculed, and treated like shit. Kim Porter's own best friend stated that Diddy made Cassie make Kim Porter put a used tampon in her mouth and whatnot just to humiliate her, to show Kim Porter that I am above you. Allegedly, that source comes from Kim Porter's best friend and whatnot. So again, he— I understand that Diddy made Cassie do a lot of things, but when are you going to be accountable for the things that you did yourself? You are a public— yes, but at some point in time, you went rogue. You did things on your own. Not everything Diddy did. Please, that is an excuse. Yes, we have people in our lives that control us, that manipulate us, that gaslight us, that love us, but there's a way of coming out of it. There's a way of getting away from that and whatnot, and she did. So now that she has, be accountable for your part. She hasn't.

Let me jump in real here. Flame, do you want to add to what he's saying? I know you, you gotta go, and I want you for tomorrow for the jury deliberations because I gotta share your thoughts. But I know we're having some connection issues. Do you want to touch on that before we drop you down? It's frozen. Flame, please come back, log out and come back in. We have a special guest waiting backstage that just joined. Is he ready? Okay, Bizino, welcome to the live. How you doing?

Why?

What's popping?

I'm good. Why is you naked outside? Where you at, down at the courthouse?

No, no, no, no, I'm at, I'm at, um, uh, Aquatica.

It's a water park.

Okay, you with the kids today?

Yeah, I'm with the kids.

Yep, with Ashley.

We over here, we just having a good time. Tiffany called, I didn't know what it was about, so I just, I just hit you up. How you been?

I appreciate that. Now we want your thoughts on this, uh, Okay, so the jury found, uh, the jury came in and they made a decision on counts 2, 3, 4, and 5, but they can't seem to agree on count 1. What are your thoughts? You know Diddy, man.

I'm, I'm gonna be honest, man. You know, I'm praying for the victims. I'm praying for Diddy, his family. But me, I'm not with none of that, none of that, uh, none of that violence, none of that crazy Diddy shit, putting hands on people, making people do stuff. I'm not with that. Now, you know, this— when, when all this first happened, everybody was kind of against Diddy, and it's good to see people supporting because we have to support our own. But, but to me, I think they proved transferring prostitution over state line. I think they proved that, okay? I think that's, that's kind of proven. Um, I think now as far as everything else, when they started asking about the drugs and, and about distribution, they wouldn't be asking about that if they didn't find him guilty on the other charges. You see what I'm saying? You know, so, so it's, you know, only God knows at this point. But I do, I do think that one count is 100% gonna stick, and that's Transferring prostitutes over state lines.

The Mann Act.

Yes, yes. But I mean, which, Tasha, a lot of fuckers would, would be guilty of. Okay, all right.

So, Zeno, let me ask you a question, because you, you was, you was big league at one time with The Source. Were the fans ever watching y'all at this level?

Listen, I ain't—

no, me, I'm a private person, you know. I wasn't, I wasn't up at Diddy's parties, you know. Stevie was my friend, and Stevie and Diddy are good friends, but you know what I'm saying, it was— the separation was there, you know. I really never, I really never dealt with Diddy on that level. Dave, my partner, dealt with him.

Being a Source owner, and you remember the Source, it kind of ignited in some instinct, the East Coast versus the West Coast beef, all that shit went down at the Source Awards when you owned it. Like, did the feds ever try to target you and your companies?

Listen, so I got indicted, but for tax evasion. But that, for 2 years, they was investigating me for much bigger. It was the RICO. Like, I was being investigated for 2 years for RICO. They interviewed 160 people. Um, it was extortion, money laundering, two counts of murder, all kind of shit. And God rest my— God rest my mother. They— the feds went to her and said, look, tell him to cop out to 25 because he's going to get life if he don't. So, you know, I didn't cop out. They wired the accountant at the source for 8 months, and I ended up getting indicted for tax evasion. So I took that to trial and I beat it. You know, I, I beat the federal government.

How beat that? That's, that's unheard of. How did you beat that case?

Well, because, you know, our accountant was wired. Our accountant was supposed to be doing my taxes. I'm, I'm a guy from the streets. I don't know a W-9 from a W-7 from a W-2. It was his job to file my taxes, not wear a wire to get me caught up. And I think that's what the— I think that's what the jury was, all-white jury, you know what I'm saying? And, and they came back not guilty 3 hours.

I like—

I couldn't believe it. I was only looking at 5 years, but still, you know.

I mean, that's still a long time. And I mean, I mean, I mean, there's a trend when it comes to cases. At first it was the drug dealers, then they started going after artists like, uh, Wesley Snipes, Lauryn Hill, all these people for tax evasion.

You—

now it's the RICO with the CEOs of the record labels, you know what I'm saying? Irv Gotti has been the only one that beat an indictment of this size. You have. They couldn't put one on you. And I would think out of everybody, especially— what's that noise? Especially with everything that The Source that they said represented, especially igniting cases, you know, just beefs between the East Coast versus the West Coast, that they would definitely have some type of concrete evidence in trying to put a case of this statue on you. But they couldn't even do it on you. But then they come back and it's kind of like I feel like Johnson Johnson should be sitting in the courtroom to defend why they sold baby oil to Diddy and why we was out of baby oil during COVID Go ahead, Benzino.

Listen, my thing is this, of course it's an assault on Black men. If they hit Diddy with the RICO, they could take all his money. You see, the RICO enables you to take the money from every business possible because they feel like you're making money from a criminal enterprise.

Guys.

So that's why it was important. You know, this is about taking down black men and taking their money. If they're going to use women, you know, that's the number one tool against us right now, is using women. So people want to say it's the powers that be, yeah, but they're using the black women to bring us down, our black women to bring our black men down. And that's what's happening.

Well, these women weren't black.

Listen, my thing is I don't condone I don't condone no violence. I don't condone none of that raping and none of that shit, you know what I'm saying? But you know, all that, all that— hey, Tasha, you crazy.

These women weren't Black.

They weren't Black.

Yeah, well, I mean, you know, some of them were, you know.

Even the women that's coming after, uh, uh, Shannon Sharp, they're not Black. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm just saying, you know, I'm just saying it's women in general, but it surely shouldn't be be us against us, you know, using us, right? We got to be smarter, you know what I'm saying? I'm, you know, we got to be careful because we don't, you know, you know, you see what I'm looking at? Tyler Perry. I hope Tyler Perry ain't, you know, that's a white man. He's the last one left as far as having money like this in the entertainment industry, you know. I mean, they went after Russell Simmons, everybody. Man, man, we got to be wise They already suing him for $260 million.

That's where it starts. Tyler got too big and too cocky and you think you gonna take down Hollywood? Hollywood coming back to get that. We gonna get that, come back and split that. It's already happening before our eyes. He knows. That's why he's so adamant about rallying his audience to say, you guys know that I employ more black people in a paid job more than any one, but he also has a white boy that's suing him that's saying that he paid that white boy more than he paid Taraji P. Henson that's out here campaigning for him. But some asshole— I didn't even know asshole cost a million dollars, man.

Um, I think it is more important for prosecution when they are going after these Black men. To me, it's more entertaining to the world to watch Black men go down.

Okay.

You got like this, the lead of, uh, Amber Crombie and Stage, you know, he's a white male. That really doesn't get the attention that it needs because he's a white man. People find that boring. But when somebody's Black, people are tuned in immediately because us as Black people, we are deemed more as it's possible that all of this stuff is true, you know. But then when it comes to another race of nationality going through this, and it's a higher probability that a lot of these things are allegations instead of facts. But when Black people are being listed for something, then it's just like, oh yeah, let's get them, let's take them down. And then they want to throw it on the back of Black women, which is weird because a lot of times Black women are not believed.

Hold on for a second, Sean. Uh, Benzino, I'm gonna let you get back to the kids. I appreciate you hopping in real quick. They sent the jury home for the day, okay? So we will be deliberating tomorrow. Let's see if they can figure out, you know, a verdict tomorrow. But I was gonna ask Benzino. I said, damn, Benzino, she Jasmine. Um, Zeno, do you feel— I know, real quick, yes or no, you think Diddy's guilty? You think he going to jail? Damn, he gone. It's the second person this done happened to. Shit, I appreciate— all right, bye, bye, Xeno. We'll have to bring him back tomorrow. He, he out with the kids. That's what's happening today. All these— you know what my irritation is with my, my industry friends? They don't take life serious at all. I mean, that's a good thing, but like, if I tell Ray J 2 o'clock and he called me, oh man, I got caught up in something, I'mma come, I'm coming. Well, what time is that? I'm coming. He ain't nowhere to be found. And then he gonna call me tonight, tell me, let's go live, right?

Correct.

When you about to lay down, like, I don't do 1 o'clock in the morning. I got kids at the house that I gotta be there for. So I apologize, Juanos, but this is what we've been going through all day. That's why I be liking the serious people like us, because they asses be out partying.

You know, Reggie only up during demon time.

No, I don't think he knows what time it is right now. I said we said 2 o'clock. Anyways, but that's crazy. Shout out to Benzino for coming through. Shout out to, uh, Flamer Row for coming through. Um, and tomorrow we got a lot more, uh, lined up. However, uh, Jasmine, play, uh, a clip clip from Rico real quick. Do we have any clips from Rico? Did you watch that interview, Sean? Hold on for a second, Sean. Give me a second. Sean, did you watch that interview with Rico?

Yes. Before— I gotta hurry up and get in for Jasmine.

I know Jasmine be like Bobby.

That's gonna be quick on the draw. Jasmine like, okay, come on. Love Jazzy Faye.

Okay, and, uh, what did you think of Rico?

I think that Rico has some explaining to do.

What type of explaining? Rico was a sex worker, and so, uh, for Diddy, he serviced, uh, Jane Doe, okay? Um, and got $5K a pop for serving, uh, Jane Doe for 3 hours, sometimes 4 hours, 5 hours. Yeah. Uh, what, what kind of— first of all, let us hear from from Rico real quick, then I want your thoughts, and then we're gonna take some more viewers, and then we're gonna wrap this up for today for our live, uh, uh, jury watch. We'll be back, we'll be back tomorrow, probably all day tomorrow, so hopefully you'll be able to join us tomorrow too. I know we working the shit out of you, um, but yeah, go ahead. We're gonna hear from Rico. And this shit hurt. Was there any condom worn or anything? Yeah, I wore a condom. Did they ask you not to?

He asked me to come up and she was like, yeah, I'm I'm cool with that.

Now, there was some testimony in the court where one of the male sex workers said that they felt like Diddy and Cassie were going to the next room and Diddy would lick the semen off of—

what the fuck?

I can't believe you.

No way. I ain't see no shit like that. You said that they said they would go in another room, so how did they know if they go in another room?

Well, that's what he's saying. He's like, why would Diddy ask me to cut her vagina then take her into the next room and they would be gone for a long time? And I couldn't help to think— and maybe he was just over-observing, trying to picture what was going down in the next room. But yeah, he said, I couldn't help but think because she didn't take a shower or nothing, that he—

that fucked me up too, because that's when I, I was— I went in the bathroom bathroom to take a shower, right? And that's when I see the bottles of baby oil. Like, I walk in the bathroom and I'm like, what the fuck? Because I know she— it was like a baby— she used up damn near the whole bottle of baby oil on me. Like, at one point I was like, it's too much oil. Like, it's enough, you know what I'm saying?

Sliding up and down, y'all just—

yo, like, I'm like, it's too much. Like, enough of the baby oil shit, you know? It's a possibility that, yeah, it could have been some, uh, Some nasty shit going on.

I've been married 20 years. When I'm done, I go take a shower. Me too.

That's what I'm saying. I'm in the shower thinking to myself, I'm like, damn, shit.

Right?

Like, are you going to come take a shower? So if she laid there and he went behind you and it turns him on for him to see something like that, yeah, what the male sex worker said on the stand kind of makes sense. Like, Diddy was licking Y'all semen off of her and then her. That interview is available now on TashaKLive.com. It is unpermitted for YouTube. So is the interview with Dave, the other freak-off worker. And trust me, it'll be the best $12 that you've ever spent in your life because it goes down. Um, over on tashaklive.com. Maybe it used to go down in the DM. No, it goes down on TK Live. Okay, um, Sean, what are your thoughts on that? Then we're going to hear from some of the viewers.

Um, I was excited that Rico is actually attractive because I was getting really confused, um, by the FOs because the majority of them were ugly. So I honestly, like, the list, like, Cassie, the people that she— I was like, you poor thing.

Like, my God.

Like, it is like it was just getting worse and worse. So, um, that he is a nice looking guy, so, you know, shout out to him for that. Um, but I wonder what I really want to know from these freak-offs. Did y'all feel like gay in the room with him? How did it make you feel? Like, where did your mind go to trying to perform with a male there and you are the object of his affection, not the woman, because he can have her anytime he wants to. You are what he's interested in. He's not interested in the female. So how did that— I want to know, like, how did that make you feel knowing that? Because so to me, how I feel like Diddy does these FOs, in his mind he is the woman when he is doing the production, when he's telling them what to do, how to do it. I think that sitting these men, because Diddy likes straight men. I think that Diddy is attracted to heterosexual men. So the whole point of— it's not a swinging thing, a voyeur thing to me. It's Diddy trying to vicariously live through the woman and her sexual experience with a male that would never go after him. So that— I think that's his fantasy within that moment. So how does it make them feel knowing that you are the desired one in the equation, not the woman. That's why they're just a dime a dozen.

We don't care. They did mention in his interview that's on TashaKLive.com now that there was a time that Diddy kind of sort of asked him if he was— no, I think it was Rico. Rico, it was Dave. And Dave talked about like Diddy going down on Cassie, but he went down on Cassie in front of him, and he made sure that his butt was backed up to Dave.

Correct.

And every time, like, Dave would move to see Cassie, Diddy would move so his butt would be in the view of Dave.

Mm-hmm. Diddy wants to be a light-skinned or a beige woman, an ethnic or exotic woman. That's why he has a type when it comes to the FOs, not just the type in general. When it comes to FOs, they all are similar looking to Cassie. So with the baby oil and body oil and lube and whatnot, with the bodies glistening, that's a part of the fantasy. That's the part of fantasy. He wants to be glistening. He doesn't like ash or anything on himself. So that's why he makes sure that the woman and the male are both like overly done with the oil so that the fantasy that he has in his mind, he could truly live out within that time. Because he has done things with men. That's not allegedly. No, he absolutely has done things with men.

How do you know?

How do I know? Besides 4 lawsuits of men that have come forward.

That is true.

And I've been waiting on the details of those lawsuits, but they haven't been uploaded into the system yet. I was trying to bring that information to this live, but they're not live in the Los Angeles Superior Court. So hopefully by tomorrow when we're deliberating, we get to go and see what, what, what, what do some of those men say? I know one that's in jail said he was sodomized by, by Diddy. And it is on record that Diddy went to see him. And it is on record that Diddy offered him a settlement of $2 million to drop his case. Case because he was suing Diddy and is actively suing Diddy. And so Diddy was like, hey, come take this money now. He said that he was sodomized by Diddy at a party years ago.

Well, Jonathan Adi, um, one of the men that sued, um, Diddy back in the day, the reason why Diddy allegedly settled so quickly with him, it wasn't due to the herpes allegation inside of the lawsuit. It was actually admitted that he and Diddy were having consensual SCX with one another, and Cassie was definitely there while it transpired. That's why it's hard for me to really rock with what Cassie's saying throughout her testimony, because she's leaving a lot out. I think that she is aiming things to help the prosecution arrest him but not telling the whole story, in my opinion. I think that it got way freakier than what is led on, because I don't think— again, And some people may be embellishing and not necessarily telling the truth when it comes to lawsuits, but I do think that these men are telling the truth. And why they don't come forward, this is why: because they're not believed when they do. If he's done— if he's watching his alleged girlfriend sleep with all of these other men, these men were Tyler Perry style men. Yeah, but what, what interest would you have in that woman then? My woman to me is going to be sacred. Most men, especially heterosexual men, their women are sacred to them. They'll go out in these streets and be with all type of, you know, loose women, you know, is what they'll go out there and do. But when it comes to what they have at home, that's usually sacred, whether it's their wife, girlfriend, fiancée. They usually don't—

I think that's very hypocritical, Amanda. They go out and they hit everything else, but then they want to us to stay in the house and wait for them to bring back what they done got from that hoe.

True, that is extremely hypocritical. You know, they could cheat 50 times, you cheat on them one time, then all of a sudden— oh, you get the house on fire, you know, all of that. You know, just one time is all it took, you know. Yeah, it is a double standard. I do agree with that. But I do think that with Diddy using these women like that, the Jane Does, the Ginas, the Oh, did you hear that, uh, Gina, um, was on TMZ?

Yeah, um, they called her down there at the Whole Foods in the parking lot saying that she wasn't scared of Diddy. She can't wait for Diddy to get out because Diddy's gonna— Diddy's gonna pay her.

Well, she's still Team Diddy, and so it's like Caresha and all of them, because they're, you know, they're waiting for Poppy to come home.

Yes, they are. Okay.

Huh?

Okay, so I just got a $20 tip to spin my chair. Hold on for a second. 1, 2, 3, go Poppy! Go Poppy!

Go Poppy!

I need a Go Poppy sign for tomorrow. Jasmine, can we make one please? I'm going to have it up.

Go Poppy!

Says Carisha. Carisha, girl, you was supposed to be out here out of everybody saying And go Poppy!

She know better.

She know she done lost so much because of Diddy. She lost her reality show deal when he get out. They were almost done filming. It was almost wrapped.

I still drop it, man. Now she know how much money she'll make.

Well, the network canceled it, not her. She didn't have nothing to do with it.

I'll be like, give me my shit back, bro. I'm going to YouTube.

I heard that allegedly Peacock, um, was interested in her story too and picking it up, but they changed their mind and went with Nelly and Ashanti.

We got one more surprise guest that's gonna be coming through in like 8 minutes, Sean, and then I'm gonna let you go in like 20. How's that?

That sounds good.

Okay, cool. I do want to hear from one of our viewers, uh, who's waiting backstage. Jay, how you doing? Where you calling from?

Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Oh, you from Wisconsin? Turn your volume down just a little bit because you, you just— okay, what about now?

What about now?

Very, very good. So what do you want? What is your take on everything that's going on? You think Diddy going home?

Um, I don't know. I think that the real victim is Diddy. I think that, uh, here's why I think— here's why I think Bitty is the real victim. Because anytime a Black man get money, right, he's subjugated to people to come attack him, to tear him down. Primarily it's going to be women. We have seen that with Tyson. We have seen that with R. Kelly. We— even though they did— I don't see— it's almost like when you have a lot of money, especially as a Black man, you don't really got that much power as a white man with a lot of money. So even all you have, you are extremely vulnerable, although they tell you that you are powerful. But you are powerful in certain areas. But it's so easy— majority of the black men that has been successful been took it down from a woman, from a sexual, from a sexual abuse or sexual allegations. When you think of all of our prominent black men, right? Um, Um, also, I think, I think, uh, this jury— we should start having cultural-based jury, meaning that the way, the way, uh, white folks party is different from how we party, right? We party totally different from everybody else, but we get— it seemed like our Black way is being criminalized. Everything that Black people— I think Diddy have enough money that he did. He ain't doing nothing that nobody else, especially Black in America, have done in these parties. Everybody go out drinking, popping ecstasy pills, doing all kinds of— at all kinds of stuff in these house parties. But Diddy just got enough money to, to, uh, actually act out his, um, act out his fantasy and it's been criminalized.

I don't know.

I do not see, uh, Cassie as no victim.

Any—

only time I see a woman or a man a victim is something happened. I wish we go back to the old school victims. Something happened to you, you call the police, they investigate, they find out, you get it done right, right then and there.

Boom.

Oh, okay, I'm okay with that. But if you participate in crimes Not one, not one week, not one month, not one year, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, you are no longer a victim. This is how they decided to put down Bill Cosby, right? And then people coming out, sorry, I lied. So I do, I do think that Diddy probably done pissed off somebody and they trying to show him the lesson, right? And they got many ways. It is also my last, one of my last points is this. This is, this is very intimidating to Black men that want to aspire to be somebody, because all I see every time a Black man becomes somebody, it seems like they, they use our very own women. They don't have to be just our race, but just women in general. It's, it's like booby traps. We always get taken down, always. It's very few Black men who have made it that made it scot-free to their death, right? Majority of Black powerful men get taken down from a woman. Sexual allegations, abuse, or it's something like that, of that nature. Why is that?

I'ma start. Listen, I appreciate your, your advice on it. I ain't never went to no party, did no ecstasy, no shit like that. So I, you know, the house parties I went to, they passed blunts, they had gin, Seagram 7, you know, shit like that. But I ain't never seen none of that. None of that. Okay, uh, hold on for a second. And thank you so much for, uh, coming through, uh, J Prince. What's going on, Mel? Who's that? Who's that?

This is, uh, Mama Combs. They about to pick up. We just, we just missed the whole family. I was trying to cook. But anyway, let's— we'll give Mama Combs— we just missed her.

Yeah, take her your phone so I can speak to her.

See if she gonna say hi to Tasha K. Ask Mama Combs.

All right, yeah, let's give it— let's give it a minute, then I'll come on early.

Now, 9 AM in the morning—

9 AM is when the judge is going to come out and give his two— his, uh, I couldn't say two cents, but his, uh, spiel. So I could come out right after that so I can bring you the We have breaking news, but I just want to show you Mama Combs.

All right, where's Mama Combs at?

She's coming out.

You think she can hear me? Move the umbrella, move the umbrella! The umbrella's in the way.

Okay, all right.

Are they picking her up or dropping her off?

At the end of the day, and she's getting back in her vehicle.

Oh, she's getting back in.

Okay, okay.

Can you guys see it okay?

I hope Mama Cone's health is okay because, you know, she older. There's a lot of, a lot of, uh, stress to be up under.

She shouldn't have raised the demon.

They allowed to touch the car like that?

No, they're not supposed to, but it is what it is. So it's, uh, there's a wild bunch out here.

Okay.

Yeah, it's a wild—

I know they sent the jury home, Mel. I saw that. Um, the judge told them to keep deliberating. Where she at? Come on, Mama Coles! Hey, Mama Coles, where she at? Yeah, give us a good view. Yes. Okay. All right, Mama Coles, we are live streaming live, guys. We have mail from Watching the World 777. He's been actively in that courtroom for the last 7 weeks listening to all of the testimony and everything that's been taking place. And so he's going to be with us. He was with us earlier today during this live. If you're just now tuning in, he'll be with us tomorrow. We also have Sean Davey Way here, our fellow YouTuber who has done several docuseries on Diddy himself before Diddy was even indicted. Okay, and you can find those on his channel. All right, Sean Davey Way. And all you got to do is type in Surviving Diddy, and I think those will come up if you, if you put Surviving Diddy. So yeah, is that Mama Coles coming through right now?

I don't see a blonde wig yet.

I'm done. I am not finishing this session today.

There she go, there she go, there she go, right there, there you go.

There you go.

Mama Coles!

Janice, your phone going down.

Mama Coles, it's Tasha K. Just say hi. Walk to the camera. Mama Coles, it's Tasha K. You look good, girl.

Don't lie to her.

Yes, she do. Hey, Mama Coles, it's Tasha K. Say hi.

Janice, you look a mess. You look a mess, Janice.

Mama Coles, we praying for you. It's Tasha K. Call me, girl. Okay, look at them. Like, who the hell is that? All loud. Can they hear me, Mel?

Oh, who is that, Mel?

They heard me yelling. Yeah, I'm so ghetto because I would sure do that in person. I would sure walk up over there. Mama How y'all doing? Shout out to the Combs family. Look at me all groupish and everything. Hey, Mel, Mel, thank you so much for that. Will you join us tomorrow? Mama Combs, say hi to the camera. Hi, Mama Combs.

It's a shame you can see her wig through that tent.

No, you can't see the wig. Listen, we gotta Mel, can you hold? Can you give us 10 minutes, Mel? And then we're gonna wrap this up with you. We got a special guest waiting backstage that I gotta show the winos, okay? And then we're gonna be right back to you, okay, Mel?

You got it.

All right, all right, winos. Sean, you know I gotta be nasty. Yes, go ahead, give my guest for the day Why is your clothes on? That's not what we discussed.

What was the discussion?

The discussion was shirt off, correct? Yes, take it off for the— I don't know what Diddy paid for. We stand up, let them see. We just saw Mama Combs on the live. Okay, that's where So, all right, you see what Diddy paid? Did he pay how much, like $20,000?

Jane Doe.

Jane Doe paid $20,000. You gotta bring Sean back. Where he go? Okay, all right, cool. Bring Sean back in here. Shout out to Rico. Rico, uh, real quick, because I know you're, you're a busy man and everything like that, the jury cannot come to a decision when it comes to Count 1, which is the big one, the RICO racketeering conspiracy. But they have reached decisions on Count 2, 3, and 4 and 5, if I'm not mistaken. And the judge has instructed them to keep deliberating. So I'm sure that they'll come up with a decision tomorrow of some sort. So do you think Diddy is going to jail?

I don't think so.

Turn your volume up.

I don't think so.

Why, why is that? Because I mean, one of the questions is, did he transport sex workers across state lines for sex? I feel like that's the Mann Act.

Consenting adults traveling to have a good time, more so, you know what I'm saying? That's my perspective. If anything, that's all he's going to get charged for. I think everything else isn't going to stick because it was consenting adults from my perspective of what happened.

Okay, okay. Um, needless to say, you— if Diddy called you when he get out, would you go? No. Why? Why you change? That was, that was a good lick. $5,000.

I know, I'm good though. It's too much drama that I can't find it. 75K, 100K, you know what I'm saying? Something out, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, I need to be between me and Jane Doe. You don't need to be nowhere in the building, you know what I'm saying?

Okay, so what about Jane Doe?

If Jane Doe hits you up, would you I would consider for the right amount. Yeah.

So Rico is no shame in his game. So you sell dick? It's for sale?

No, no, no, no, no.

He did flex the muscle.

That means yes.

That mean call me though. Listen, he tried to admit it's hot out here These fans is watching, 'cause they could come back and charge y'all. That's the thing.

No, we good.

So did they offer you immunity? Like, when they did— yeah, like, didn't you think that was strange that they offered you immunity but you still said, listen, we was all consensual adults? I didn't see anything that gave kidnapping, coercion, or anything like that. You said Jane Doe was into it.

Yeah, but they, they offered the immunity before, beforehand, before I even like talked or seen them, you know what I'm saying?

Damn, damn, damn, damn. So listen, um, yeah, so this, this, um, I don't know, like, what, what, what are people saying about you? Because, you know, you did my platform. We still have yet to put the whole interview out. I wanted to wait until, you know, the trial got you know, the verdict was in, and then I was going to put the entire interview out, but it is streaming now on TashaKidLive.com. What are some of the reactions that you're getting from appearing publicly? Do you feel like, as a— that's one question— but as a sex worker, somebody that was paid by Diddy, one of the sex workers said he is going to sue Cassie. Do you feel like the male escorts or sex workers have grounds to sue because their pictures are being plastered everywhere and they're not being protected and all these allegations are being made up against them in some cases. Like, how do you feel since you've entered the public and, and what other sex workers are going to do?

I feel like some of them, because it does have its negative effects, you know what I'm saying? Some not so good shit happened. And, and if they feel that way, then, you know what I'm saying, they obligated to their opinion. But still, there was consenting adults in those situations, you know what I'm saying? They didn't get forced to do anything that they didn't agree to doing, and just it coming out is the consequences of agreeing to do that, you know. But that's on them how they feel. But I don't think I'm going to try to sue. I'm not— I was a consenting adult. I chose to do it, you know.

So did you enjoy— you enjoyed yourself?

It was good. Yeah, it wasn't too bad. Has this affected your business since since, like, um, I've actually booked more parties, but, um, it affected some relationships that I had with some people now that it's public because they didn't know prior. Like dating? Yeah.

Okay, like how they don't want to mess with you no more because you was selling dick to Jane Doe? What?

I just heard that, like, their friends and family are, like, sending them the interviews and it's coming out and I'm talking about it. So they're more so, I would say, embarrassed, you know what I'm saying?

Oh, you mean to tell me— hold on, wait a minute, let me, let me get something straight. So you got people in your life that don't know what you do?

They didn't, they didn't know to that degree, really? Yeah, really. But they know now. So you're saying like the majority of the people that you knew knew you was a hoe, but now they know you're like a slut? Oh, y'all gotta take Sean off. Yeah, because I mean, if it's out there, you know, like, I mean, but if you're not telling them like everything—

he got muscles now, please. I don't want to see him see you on the street, shy.

He be like—

I seen him upside down on his head before. Like, I have. I— on videos. He has a—

flexible.

So he can do a backflip over top of you and wound up, you know, inside on point. Like, just What's your OnlyFans, Rico? What's your OnlyFans?

It's Rico Showtime.

Rico Showtime on OnlyFans. And trust me, you will definitely get a show, okay? And but I wanted to say, so, um, I know you said that you don't ever want to get married, but I mean dating, do you feel like this is going to mess up your dating life now that to have publicly come out? Sort of like how what women go through, how they be, you know, like, shall we say, like a slut, like slut-shamed for what they do in the bedroom?

No, the people that fuck with me fuck with me regardless, you know what I'm saying? And they knew, a couple of them knew, so it is what it is, you know. So, okay, booster— I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't actually say that. It's, it's not really good, but it is what it is. Is, you know what I'm saying?

Okay, okay. Well, listen, um, I know, you know, we only have a short time with you. Um, what do you want to say, um, to, to Diddy and his team if they are watching? Because I know you said that your testimony did not go in the direction that the prosecutors wanted it to go, and that's why they didn't put you on the stand, but they did mention you, um, on— in court when they were in, you cross-examining Jane Doe, 50 Cent baby mama. Um, what do you want people to, to know, or his team?

Um, really nothing. I don't feel like I was forced or she was forced. I don't— I didn't see any wrongdoing in my situation. I can't speak on the Cassie situation, but it was just consenting adults in my situation. So I feel he shouldn't get convicted of anything because of that.

Okay, all right, cool. And, uh, you, you, you are for hire, of course, for your services and things like that. Where can people book you?

They can book me through my social media and through Cowboys for Angels.

Cowboys for Angels. Okay, all right. So, um, thank you so much, Rico. Hopefully we'll have you back here soon.

Okay, I'm supposed to be dancing on your tour. You gotta let me know when your birthday party is.

I will.

My birthday is coming up in March next year. However, I will, because the winos requested, have you on the tour. And you're going to bring your buddies, right?

Yeah, yeah.

And my winos are going to bring their cash.

Okay, let's run that.

All right, let's run that. That's right, Sean is on the tour.

Sean is on the tour.

Who?

Tasha K presents Cal boys only. Thank you so much, Rico. Can you show them what you working with real quick? And you said what, Rico? Showtime on OnlyFans? Showtime Vegas. Showtime Vegas. All right, there, there it is, y'all. If y'all want to see more, uh, where is Sheck at? Sheck is right here, and he gonna drag me down the hallway like Diddy did, Cassie, after this show. Okay, all right, thank you so much, Rico. I ain't got no hair he can hold on to. Oh my God. Bye, y'all. They know I be laughing about everything up over here. I don't even give a damn. Okay, so listen, um, you said Rico for hire, just give me $20 million, I'm done. Rico, Rico, Rico like that, ain't he, Sean? He get, he get the bag.

He could, he could. Little piece, little piece of something. I got $20 over here.

Did he got excellent taste?

I said that he wanted him. He, he wanted him. Did he wanted him? But I think it's interesting that all of the people that were, you know, escorts, um, The men, none of them are like, did anything wrong. That's interesting. They also—

except for Dave. Dave told us— yeah, Dave told us that he is gearing up to sue. Yes, he is. So, um, Cassie, and he feels that he— I'm thinking he should probably sue the prosecution since they done plastered all their pictures and everything everywhere. Okay, cool. Uh, all right, so yes, Mel, Mel. All right, so closing statements for today. Welcome back, Mel, from Watching the World 77. He's been covering the case, uh, for the full 7 weeks he's been with us and will continue to be with us until the jury, uh, to the verdict is read. And so, Mel, what are your closing thoughts on everything for today?

Well, when I went back in the courtroom after coming on your channel panel, I noticed that everybody was circled around Diddy and they started to bring in the courtroom reporters, so I knew something was about to happen. And also they were passing around notes trying to figure out something. So anyway, that's when they came on and they said that the jurors had come to a conclusion on 4, but they couldn't make a decision on racketeering. They did say that the jurors were heavily unpersuaded in both directions to make it seem like it's a big clash going on. So they brought the jurors back out and they told them basically, you know, we'll give you a little bit more time to try to come to a conclusion, but try to work this out, and if not, we'll start tomorrow morning at 9. So they let the jurors go back in, and then less than 3 minutes later, the jurors sent a note saying that they were done for the day. But as they were walking out, you could see they had faces like like they had went through some kind of a major fight and like, you know, they were looking at each other like, here we go again. So I think it's going to be very interesting to see how this goes.

Okay, well, listen, we're gonna pipe you in tomorrow, uh, from the courthouse. Uh, you'll be live. Thank you so much for all of your hard work, guys. Please follow Mel on Watching the World 777 everywhere, okay? Um, and Mel, I have a question from one of the, uh, viewers here. Happens to be a female. They want to know if you're married.

Yes, I am. Thank you.

Male said don't be trying to sell him no pussy. Don't be trying to put a case on him. A divorce is a case. Stay away.

She watches Tasha K. Her name is Latasha. She watches Tasha K. So her name's Latasha.

Oh, she don't play.

Oh no, no, no, no, no.

He said, hell no, my wife don't. Uh, hi to the wife. Hi, Tasha, how you doing, girl? I just asked the question, but he stood 10 toes down and said he is married. Okay, look, the audience was like, oh damn, damn, damn. Well, listen, that's good news for your wife. That means she got her somebody, you know what I'm saying, that somebody else won't. Go ahead.

Two things. Uh, James testified that one night he was going to take down 3 men in one night, and they couldn't find the, the sex workers. So did he text her, Rico is available? And I'm not sure if he got down with Rico, but he caught that Rico charge. He caught it, you know. So he got a Rico, but it wasn't the Rico he wanted. Um, the other thing is tomorrow morning with the judge Right, with the judge. We start at 9, so I won't be able to come on your show until after he gives instructions. So it's like around 9:20, 9:30, I'll be available.

We'll play it for 10. We'll go live at around 10, 10:30. How's that? Maybe 11, just to be on the safe side, because I don't anticipate the jury being back, um, at all. Uh, I don't think he's going to make them come back if they're that heavily divided. I just don't see it happening. But, um, I, I'm sure you, you'll update us and, uh, keep us Um, oh yeah, you know, keep us going. Thank you so much, Mel. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and let you go. Go ahead.

I just want to say thank you so much for all you do. I really appreciate you. You perform at a high level. You're the best out there, and I don't let anybody talk, uh, shit about you. All right, so thank you.

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He was saying some awful things. You bitch. That coochie is just oozing. You my old lady. In the name of the Holy Light, I cast you out. Leave this man and never return. Your abusive sexual desires, the fornication, the mishandling of your wife. She gave you 40 years. In the name of the Holy Light, I cast you out. Leave this man and never return. Watch this full program and other exclusive content on www.tashaklive.com. You know damn well I ain't brought you no damn flowers. I'm still waiting on my check to come through from a property that I sold 2 months ago. I can take it to the check cashing place. Girl, I don't know. Open it and see. Thinking of you. Oh, really? Oh, they're so cute. It's so cute. To think that you still receive beautiful gifts like this, girl. I am still receiving gifts to the clinic, child.

Your baby daddy.

What's my baby daddy?

No, that's why you still going to the clinic, because your baby daddy.

I'm supposed to go to the clinic. That's my baby daddy. That's the problem. There's two clinics that I go to. That's why I'm trying to put you on— The abortion and the STD clinic. I stay there. No, Cashina. Why?

I'm trying to give you a wholesome man, Kelvin's brother.

What you know about wholesome? And Calvin's brother, girl, no, I need a nigga to burn me. See, I need him to have an experience with fucking, okay? Listen.

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