Cassie Working With The Feds, Kanye West is Being Sued and Chance The Rapper Headed For Divorce

Hello everybody, I'm sorry about that. Welcome to the Echo 4th edition of Wine and Zooty. How you guys doing today? Hello? Go ahead. Can you hear me, Shonda, everyone?

Yes.

Okay, I said welcome to the April 4th edition of Wine and Zooty. How are you guys doing today?

Oh my God, we're doing great. How are you?

Yes, I'm doing amazing. I don't know why you guys couldn't hear me when I first came in, but that's okay. So we have a lot to talk about today. By the way, Sean, baby, why I always watch you on here, I get so excited. Your energy is amazing. DJ Jordan, you coming with the olive leaf extract. I'm always, always excited to join you. So today we have a few topics coming up. We have Lizzo up for discussion. We're going to get into JLo and her ticket sales. They are suffering. Okay. And then of course we're going to get into some more of that Diddy tea, specifically the people that are speaking out on him, you know, more so than what's going on with him since we're already abreast to the home raids and everything. So first up, I want to talk to you guys about Lizzo. Lizzo claims that she is quitting the music industry just for her to get on air about 24 hours later and turn around and say, just kidding. Um, Sean Davey Wade, do you think this was all for attention? Was she crying wolf? I honestly thought she would at least have a Jay-Z type of retirement. You remember when he went on Total Request Live and said that he was retiring from rap and it lasted for 3 years and he hung up his jersey with Carson Daly? Child, not, not only did it like not last 3 years, it was only 24 hours. Sean, anyway, what are your thoughts?

My thoughts are shout out to Lizzo because Lizzo has done great things in music. She's made a huge fan base and worked with a lot of incredible artists and whatnot. But, um, she came forward and stated that she wasn't simply saying that she was completely retiring, like, from music. It's more so of the energy, um, the negative energy, negative comments that people say about her is what she is retiring from. Lizzo can't right now. The reason she can't is because she is contractually bound to still making albums and music. She still owes the label and whatnot, so she's not walking away. That I don't feel like she meant that. I think that she's— I'ma just keep it real. Lizzo, look at here, you still round and big in here, little piece, and you don't like it, okay? You felt like you transforming your body and whatever, which I'm proud of her, you know, shout out to her, she looks great. She does, she looks great. But I still feel like she feels like it's not enough. So those insecurities come through, through everything. When you don't like what you look like, you don't like nothing. I mean, if you can't stand in front of the mirror and appreciate what's in front of you, how can you appreciate anything else? Um, like when it comes to life. So I think she does need a certain validation that the industry still has not given her. And I think she's ready for surgery, honestly. I think she's ready to do surgery and wants our salute instead of, you know, you pop up and she's like Adele. You know, Adele was, you know, petite, you know, pleasant. Yes, you know, she came back and it's like, whoa, like, who's that? So I think Lizzo's over it. I think she's over it.

You said she's ready for surgery, but I mean, not saying that you can't work out and eat healthy and change your lifestyle, but it looks like she's already made some changes. Um, I would like to take a look at her video first and then point out some things. I want to make this video because I just need to clarify. When I say I quit, I mean I quit giving any negative energy, attention. What I'm not gonna quit is the joy of my life, which is making music, which is connecting to people. Because I know I'm not alone. In no way, shape, or form am I the only person who is experiencing that negative voice that seems to be louder than the positive. If I can just give one person the inspiration or motivation to stand up for themselves and say they quit letting negative people win, negative comments win, then I've done even more than I could have hoped for. With that being said, I'm going to keep moving forward. I'm going to keep being me. Once again, I just want to say thank you The love that I've received, whoo, means more than you know. So first of all, um, we are giving such a serious speech about the state of our career half naked. Um, I don't see the difference, the differentiation between her and any other Instagram baddie that wants to show off their butt, but then they try to pair it with some type of quote about God To me, she was beat. The makeup was flawless. The wig was laid. Lace, where? Where was the lace? And her body is actually looking a lot more snatched and streamlined. So it does look like she kind of just wanted a little attention to, you know, her new upgrades, 'cause she was looking good. What are your thoughts, DJ Jordan, with her making these, you know, claims while half naked looking good? Is this a cry for attention? Um, do you think she has some type of Ike Turner type figure behind her where she was serious about it but he got her together and made her go back on there the next day and tighten up and get back in there? What do you think, DJ Jordan?

You, you know, I, I think Lizzo looks a lot better now than she has in a long time, uh, but I don't— I think that she's still not where she wants to be, you know what I mean? I think she, you know, I think her goal is to be a much slimmer woman. You know what I mean? And so I do think at some point she's going to go ahead and have that surgery. Otherwise, she's still going to be dealing with the poor self-concept, which is to me a lot of where the attention seeking comes from, that need for validation and that lack of self-confidence. You know, if you're confident in yourself, then there's no need to even respond to the negative comments. You know what I mean? Because you know within yourself, you're doing— you're not only doing what you want to do, you feel good about yourself while doing it, you know what I'm saying? So this is just a classic kind of like defense mechanism. But of course, we know in that industry, that's kind of what it, what it requires, you know what I mean? Seek the attention, and then when you get the blowback, the negative blowback from the attention, speak to that too, you know what I mean? And that way your name stays, stays relevant. So I get it.

I totally agree with that. Um, I don't know why when you've had such a successful career you would focus on the negative. They have a good saying, Feed the positive, starve the negative. But obviously Lizzo knows nothing about starving at all. Sean David Way, I have a theory. Um, do you think that her sexual harassment allegations in the workplace and all that's going on with the rest of these empires crumbling, do you think that that was a reason that shook her up a little bit, that made her want to exit before everything hit the fan?

Um, I think burglar Lizzo still feel like burglar Lizzo. Um, I don't feel like it has anything to do with, um, the allegations because she's not necessarily concerned about those. I think she's more concerned about her, um, her appearance and how people views her. I, I really do.

I—

and because she goes straight to the negative, negative comments. Out of all the positive comments that people say about you, if you go straight to the negative comments, and that means that that's how you feel internally, that's how you feel, you relate to this comment, you can't even go past any other comment because this negative one— because it's the voice inside. The voice inside her is that voice she was talking about in the video. It's It's not the social media, no, girl. It's that pizza inside you. What's that lasagna pan over there on that counter, girl? That garlic bread that keep calling you, calling you, calling you. Now, my girl, but you want to look like everybody else. And I'm a girl, all right?

I totally agree. Well, Lizzo, um, we're still rooting for you. You definitely came through and held it You definitely came through and held it down for an underrepresented, you know, class or genre of women. I think you still need to carry that torch, but I would also like to see you, you know, push health first, and then you'll feel better about yourself in your career. And, you know, it'll be— it'll be only up from there. Now, in other news, someone else that the people seem to not care for Miss J.Lo. Miss J.Lo has rebranded her This Is Me Now tour as This Is Me Live. She's had several show cancelings because of weak ticket sales. Um, Sean David Wade, what are your thoughts about her rebranding? Do you think this will save her tour? Does she need to hang it up and go back to the block? What are your thoughts?

I think J-Ho has been over for a long time. Um, now look at here, she's been stealing people's songs and looks and styles and men and managers. Look at here, J-Lo, hang it up. Flat screen, um, is where we are. She just came out with this lieumentary. Um, it's supposed to be a documentary, but you know, she's right, right, lying. I'm a girl, and it's very annoying. It absolutely is. So JLo, a lot of people didn't even know she was on tour because we just don't care about her. Um, we— when Diddy left, but we did too. So, um, when she came out with this new tour, she renamed it and tried to rebrand it because she felt like the name is why it's not selling. No, sweetie, it's the person. It's you. It's not— it's not the name of the tour, girl. It's you, girl. Um, people aren't supporting you. A lot of JLo's music is you know, from On the 6th and all this. Like, people are over, um, that because you have people like Beyoncé and so many other people that were doing music around the same time she was, and they're still legendary. They have no problem. Nicki Minaj is on tour right now. She's not having a problem selling those tickets, selling out those arenas and whatnot. She doesn't have to rename the tour. Beyoncé didn't have to rename her tour to say— she didn't have to do any of that stuff. So at this point in time, I just feel like J-Hope should just hang it up. She bouncing, she out, son. We got to leave her alone. DJ Jordan?

No, I, I think you're right. I think JLo is a classic example of a middle-aged woman that then stayed away too long, you know what I mean? Yeah, way too long, and the whole industry has changed. I mean, if you've been around since the '90s, 9 times out of 10, you, you know, you need to just be on the acting tip, you know what I mean? And, and, and like you said, she's been She's been all over the place. I mean, she still looks good, she's still healthy, but the sound that she's been known for, that's not even a sound anymore, you know what I mean? People don't even—

yeah, well, it's been said that it doesn't belong to her, right? Ashanti not only wrote a lot of J.Lo's hits but sung in the background, and then J.Lo covered it. And yeah, you know, it's been said that her ticket sales would have like performed a lot better had she included other people in her tour. You know, she's more of like a, a group tour music festival type lady. Had she went on tour with Ashanti, that's when we would have got some ticket sales. So honestly, this tour is giving narcissism on her part. Yes.

Would you go on tour with somebody that stole from you?

If I had a baby on the way and needed every coin I could get.

Oh. Okay, well, that's different. You're right, that's a little piece of different. You're right.

Now, and then at the end of the day, she doesn't really sing, you know what I mean? And she can't— I'm pretty sure, as in shape that she still is, she can't move like she was moving on In Living Color. It's just not— it's no— it's no physical way that she's able to, to still, you know, move like that. So, you know, at the end of the day, like I said, she's just a classic example of a middle-aged woman who stayed away too long and now wants to try to make a comeback, but just at this point, stick to acting.

Yeah, I totally agree. Well, JLo, um, we wish the best for you.

Um, and what did they—

what did they do to you, son?

Everything.

The hell?

Everything.

I don't— you and Lizzo, okay?

No, I— there's no shade against Lizzo. I love Lizzo. I think Lizzo is a beautiful woman. I just wish one day she thinks the same thing. That's all.

Yes, it is said that, um, her, her This Is Me Now tour is actually the love story of her and Ben Affleck. So, you know, that's all I got to say about that.

The person she left for being a gambaholic, and then they got back together years later. That love story.

Could you, could you tell us more?

Well, yeah, um, when Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck were dating back in the day, they did the movie Gigli, um, or The main reason they broke up is because he would just blow hundreds of thousands of dollars at casinos, and his drinking was really bad, and you know, all of that. So I mean, that's the main reason she left him in the first place. I didn't say nothing about no alcoholic or nothing. And there's a lie you meant to read. There's a lie to her. Where's the alcohol, JLo?

Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Well, the tea is hot. The tea is hot. Oh Lord. Speaking of rocky relationships, Like Bennifer, we are sad to announce that Chance the Rapper and Royce Christen have filed for divorce. It is speculated that the video that went viral of him at Carnival, um, was what initiated the process on top of things that went on behind closed doors. I would like for us to play the video first and then we can get into um, the aftermath. Lord, Lord, Lord, excuse me, I just had to walk away, honey. One thing I don't play about is public disrespect. I mean, please don't do it behind closed doors either, but I mean, that was just embarrassing. And when I said that, I was like, I don't know if they're gonna have a PR person to clean this up or what, but I mean, this a no-fly. I don't play those games. Everybody's like, oh, they're just grinding, but oh, he's just married. DJ Jordan, um, number one, what are your thoughts about just a man in a serious relationship having a moment like that just in general, and then also being caught on camera, and then the third level of that, knowing that he's a public figure, and then we'll get into the divorce specifically.

You know, I In and of itself, I don't, I don't have a problem with the, with the video. I, I don't. It, it all comes down to the type of understanding or the type of relationship he has with his wife, you know what I mean? And, and even in addition to that, it's, it's Carnival. So, you know, he's drinking, the lady probably drinking, they, they both under the influence, caught up in the moment, and, you know, those types of things when you just in that particular carnival energy, you know, it's the same reason why, you know, women during Mardi Gras throw the shirt up, you know what I mean? They, they don't go around doing that every day. They just in the moment, you know what I mean? And so, um, I think, I think that that has a lot to do with why it went viral, number one. But then also, number two, you're going to have a certain number of people, a certain percentage of people who put pressure on the wife, like, girl, you see what he doing? He embarrassing you. He not respecting the institution. And, and maybe she gave in to that pressure. That's actually what I'm thinking. She gave in to the pressure that comes from the people over the embarrassment part of it.

Sean, Davey, what are your thoughts about, um, this video? First of all, um, that moment happening.

Okay, I want to start off with— you said at the beginning that we were sad about them divorcing. I'm not sad about that. Um, and, um, I also want to say, um, about this video that, um, there— to me, there's nothing wrong with this video, okay? I can understand the people that, you know, will probably be feeling some type of way, because I feel like only one person should be feeling some type of way, and that's who he's married to. Now, she feels some type of way about the video. She's entitled to that. I'm not going to tell her how to feel, you know, just because if I was in a relationship with him— because I would rather if you were with me, you do it publicly, then— because some men do this, the same stuff, they just do it in more— in a more private like strip clubs and, you know, things. So to me, I don't think it's a big deal. Um, this is Carnival. Um, it's a celebration. Beautiful women, just good energy in the air, you know, a lot of drinking and stuff like that. So to me, I feel that you would have to be really insecure for that to have been a problem, which, going back to them separating, if they are allegedly separated, the cell phone is the reason they is allegedly getting a divorce. Because to me, if you would allow your man to go to a strip club What is wrong with that? So Chance has never been to a strip club, you know, or anything, and the strip club is worse, and all type of other stuff could go down, you know, while they're— this is in the public. So she simply danced, he does what, no big deal. I wouldn't have felt no type of way, but I get the people that'd be like, not my man, not my man. But I'm— a lot of people too, like women especially, that would be like, no, no, it was wrong, that was disrespectful, okay. So Chance seems like a good man. Every man has the flaws, but he seems like a good man. So are you truly about to lose this good man over something as immature as that? Like, it's bigger reasons for me if I'm gonna separate. Now don't get me wrong, he would have got yelled at. We would have argued a little bit. He would have got some, you know, I'm not talking, don't talk to me, don't touch me, nothing. Go, go back to her. Go, go back out. Go, go get her. Now, I would have been a little bit of that, but I'm not risking my relationship relationship over something like that. That's trivial to me. But go ahead, how do you feel, Ashley?

Um, first of all, even if I seen a video like that of my man in the club and everybody had their clothes on, we would have a serious problem. Um, these women— first of all, my father's still married to my mother, and so, you know, me and my man about to get married, I definitely know that there are just, you know, universal rules and understanding of what's okay in terms of trying to sustain a healthy relationship. Okay, so again, I would have had an issue had a video came out like that and everybody was fully clothed. Her cheeks were out. Mind you, I'm also a woman from Georgia. I'm from Georgia. My dad will go to the strip club with his brothers. Come on, my dad was home every night. Like I said, they're still married. First of all, my mom got the craziest badonkadonk in the whole world, so it's giving very secure. But at the end of the day, I saw growing up that a man could go to the strip club and, you know, it doesn't mean anything. At least where we're from down south, that is part of the culture. A lot of business gets done, you know, in the strip club. Even, you know, um, I went to college in DC and then got my first job out there, and I would leave work, go to happy hour at Stadium DC. I would go in there for the New Orleans wings. I'll be eating my chicken, and I could be in the strip club for about 2 hours and not think about sex one time. You know, I, I just don't correlate one with the other. Now what you're not going to do is sit out here as somebody who's famous— we're married. At the end of the day, let's call a spade a spade. Uh, what's her name? Kristen? Kirsten? Um, you know, she does have a hard face. She— so, you know, she might be dealing with some insecurity issues, and at the end of the day, I don't think that this made it any better, okay? These women don't slap the shit out they man no more, and it shows. Those are my thoughts, honey. Um, I, I just pray for the best. And also, the last thing I want to say is, and this is not just them, all celebrities do this, you got on Instagram and let the people know you're getting a divorce Excuse me, let's read this. After a period of separation, the two of us have arrived at the decision to part ways. We came to this decision amicably and with gratitude for the time we spent together. God has blessed us with two beautiful daughters who we will continue to raise together. We kindly ask for privacy and respect as we navigate this transition. Thank you, Chance and Kristen. Um, excuse me, Kirsten. And I just don't understand how you're gonna volunteer a statement like that And then ask for privacy. I hate when people do that. That is so Aggie. DJ Jordan, do you have any closing thoughts on, um, the, the alleged divorce between Chance and Kirsten?

Yeah, I think that that's another opportunity to just kind of make the headlines with, with that statement. You're right, if, if you seek privacy, just shit, get privacy, you know what I mean? You don't have to make an announcement saying you need privacy. I mean, privacy is one of the easiest things to get. You know what I mean? Just don't move in the public space, shit, and, and you got privacy.

You know what I mean?

That's, that's, that's it, right? Right. You know what I mean? So nah, I agree with you on that 100%.

Yes, her and Lizzo, it's just all attention-seeking behavior.

Lizzo got real talent though.

Yeah, JLo, she does. JLo was trying to attention-seek and the people said, we don't want to see you, girl. Okay, so we have to pay some bills. Coming up after the break, we're going to get into how Gerard Carmichael got curved by Tyler, the Creator. Um, it appears that human resources at Dunham Academy need to have a word with our boy Kanye. And 50 Cent files for full custody against his little sex worker baby mama. Coming up after the break. Browns, why no? Hey, Miss Tina Brown.

Tina Brown.

Okay, Shane Brown, you ready? Now, I ain't gonna lie. Like, I love Bobby Brown. You and Bobby, how close were y'all? Very close. What was it like living with Whitney? It was fun. You smoke crack with Whitney, you said? That's pretty—

Absolutely. You don't know that?

We only know Bobby and Whitney. And every time he's sitting down, he talk about Whitney. And I'm like, how, as a new wife, do you deal with this?

Like—

That's why I hit that bitch with a bottle.

And it dwindled down to— It dwindled down. You know, some people that's—

It dwindled down to my brother touching 3 of my daughters. Who? Bobby? Yes.

Sure about it? Yes. You know.

Yes.

I'm just—

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I can't hold it no more.

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The reason I wanted to talk to you on camera is that I kind of felt like a distance between us.

I have an idea of what it is.

What do you think that is?

It's because I told you I have feelings for you and we didn't talk about it ever.

That was like weird.

I don't know if it was just too awkward to talk about or too—

I don't know.

I don't know.

Like, it's just like, I feel like you left me hanging out there a little bit.

Like, when you said that, I think I replied with like something super mad normal, regular.

Like, you laughed and called me stupid bitch.

Just tragic, honey.

Tyler, the Creator said, young man, there's a place you can go but not here. Honey, this man got curved. Sean, baby, wait, what are your thoughts about this tragic chain of events for our old boy? Gerard Carmichael.

Gerard is not fetch, um, is what that is giving. He absolutely is like, can't sit here. Um, I do not blame Tyler for calling him a stupid bitch because it's just like gross. It's like the audacity. Do you really think I'mma go from Will Smith's son to you? Like, yeah, that's just not—

gross.

Um, so yeah, I, I, I get it. Um, Tyler is definitely a jokester. He's a player. Tyler doesn't do like the whole serious relationship thing. He is bisexual. He does, you know, do both. I mean, if he curbed, um, Jaden— because Jaden on stage called Tyler out as his man, and Tyler looked like— Tyler like, no, don't, don't do that. No, gross. Um, is what Tyler did. If he do that to Jaden, why did Jared think it was gonna be anything different from— for like, it's not what Tyler does. Tyler, he had a whole pranking show and whatnot with his friends. Um, that's not his personality. If he does get into a serious relationship, I would be like shocked. Um, with Tyler doing that, he's just not that type of guy. He just plays around, plays the field. Um, I don't think this is embarrassing to Gerard. I think if anything, he just feels some type of way about— because if you already told him that you have feelings for him and he just— like you said, the dynamic of your relationship changed when you told him that he had feelings. So he was clearly disinterested, like he had no interest in you, so why keep poking at— like, don't play yourself. So to me, he playing himself. I hit up Rihanna, she like, uh-uh.

And then I see her in public, I'm like, so Rihanna, you know, she said no?

Absolutely. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I mean, in another lifetime. But, um, yeah, you know, he know what it is. Like, he tried to tell you in private, you know, kind of You know, let you down easy and private, but you want to make this like global, like let the world know how you don't want me.

Tyler like, okay, y'all remember when, uh, y'all remember when Joe Budden proposed to Tahiry in Times Square and she shut him down? This gave me one of them moments. Now let me say this, living in LA, honey, so you had Coachella, you got Rolling Loud, can I— and I've been to my fair share of music festivals. Tyler, the Creator owns and runs a music festival called Camp Floggnaw. Honey, that is one of the most fun music festivals. I've been to them all. It is so fun. It is well organized. They do this amazing thing where all the carnival rides there are like organized in a way where you can still see all the performances on the stage. I mean, it's clean cut. Between that and other things that I've observed around town, the guy definitely has a bag. So I See Gerard Carmichael trying to move in on it and secure it. Um, and I'm kind of not mad at him for it, even though it didn't work out for him. He needs to be a little more of a baddie than that. DJ Jordan, um, what are your thoughts?

First off, Tyler is creative, right? It's so, uh, just, just, you know, that moniker alone lends itself to somebody who ain't looking to settle down, you know what I mean? And, uh, and then also, you know, if, if he moving like he moving sexually, then that, that, that doesn't even lends itself to somebody who's looking to settle down, you know what I mean? So I think the handwriting's been on the wall for a long time, you know, with bruh. And the people that's, you know, that are in this circle just got to respect that.

Yeah, you're Uggs to him. It's okay.

Yeah, that's, that's it.

All right.

And you know that going in, so don't even expect more than that. Correct.

Well, um, I'm really— I'm, I'm still very embarrassed. I wish that didn't happen to him. On camera. He really got played. And, um, yeah, I'm just trying to see what the aftermath, um, for this will be. Um, and I really hope that, you know, um, Tyler just didn't feel like the guy was low-key like a predator. He hit it, you know, like, I really— Tyler was really giving just like Pretty Woman in the mall guys, like, hey, hey, y'all didn't need— like, oh my God, no, you know. So yeah, um, uh, Prayers to Gerard Carmichael. Um, so speaking of, um, somebody else who probably needs to get sat down and talked to, our boy Kanye West. It appears that, um, Kanye West is the next on the list of being sued. It looks like human resources will have to talk to him because people over at Donda Academy have said that Kanye— first of all, a lot of employees are complaining that he'll yell at them, but then he'll yell at them in a Mario voice, like, 'Eat the bean, Mario!' And then he tells them that he'll give them another chance to, to live after this, which, you know, at the end of the day, I definitely heard him tell that girl who said, 'You ain't God,' And he was like, shut up before you get exiled. So I hate to believe it. Now, I can't lie, I am genuinely disappointed at the timing of this because I was just— seriously, I was just bragging on Kanye. I was like, no matter how many rocks people try to throw at this man, I'm just like, look, all these lawsuits and sexual harassment allegations are coming out and y'all don't see Kanye's name nowhere in the filings. I've been bragging on this guy, and so, you know, I still want to root for him, but it's like, I can't keep defending you every 3 days, Kanye. Sean, what are your thoughts about this?

Um, this is a worthy lawsuit.

Absolutely.

Um, I feel that this lawsuit is, uh, worth it because, uh, Kanye Polo is, is a lot. Okay, Kanye, y'all seen how he walked on that damn stage with, uh, Taylor Swift and, and just interrupt her and say So imagine him in a board meeting, you know, or something like that. Okay, everything has to go his way, and yelling at teachers and telling them certain things like, uh, I'll give you one more life if it— like, but what is wrong with you? Like, Keith not in or has ever been on any educational board. He doesn't know how to run a school or anything like that. He should have been more so of the person that puts stuff— because he causing hell and havoc under his own deceased mama name. Like, you named it Donda. This should be a beautiful place, and you creating all of this destruction and chaos. All of this, you know, Kanye is not an easy person to work with. Like, he is not. So I can only imagine, um, with these teachers, with the structure that— because I mean, he building houses and tents outside in the desert, and, uh, these girls, he just weird girl. So I can only imagine how difficult somebody like him is to work with. And his— like, he wants to pull you into how he thinks. And to some people, Kanye, his way of thinking, it— there's no structure to it. So how you—

usually common with geniuses, to be honest with you, you know.

Um, musical genius, see, that, that's different than being inside of an educational board. Because you know your keys on the thing, you know, you know how to produce a song. Don't mean you know how to produce a graduate, you know. It doesn't mean you know how to do those things. It doesn't. She a musical genius, like no different than Robert Sylvester. He was a musical genius, couldn't even write, can barely read, but musically talented. Same thing with Kanye. Genius does not mean overall mean you sit down and you mastered the SAT, you got a perfect score. That don't mean that. It does not. Now, you may have gotten with a musical. Go ahead.

You said that because I've made the mistake as a woman, you know, living in LA, and especially at first being not blinded by the glam, but like everybody, you know, want to date somebody who's on. Everybody wants to date a boss. So, you know, like I've definitely had a boyfriend or two that is doing extremely well in their career, a lot of times music. And I made the mistake. I've learned by my age, but I would look at how they're performing in their music, in their career, and think that translates over to everything else they're doing, especially in their personal life. And 9 times out of 10, it never does. And that is something that I had to really go through and learn. So I'm really glad that you pointed it out. Now, it is said that Kanye told employees if they got fat, they will be fired. DJ Jordan, do you believe he said that?

I believe it because he getting fat.

That part, you know, big people don't like other big people.

No, you know, you hit on so many good points in that, you know, education for the most part is a structured environment. And Kanye is everything but structured. You know what I mean? His whole approach to fashion, to music, to life is, you know, is unstructured. You can say creative. But I can see why he would create unintentionally an environment that's chaotic. You know what I mean? Because to me, that helps with his creativity. But to your point, that doesn't lend itself to education for children. You know what I mean? And so at the end of the day, or education really for anybody, because most of us need a structured environment in order to learn. We got to kind of know what we're going into. Each day, right? And so without that, you're just kind of all over the place. And you can be that way once you're an adult and on your own, and— but trying to, trying to learn to navigate, you know, educationally, socially, and all these things, life, you need a structured environment, you know what I mean? And nobody is on what Kanye is on but Kanye. That's the problem.

Yeah, I'm such a music lover, and I'm actually kind of like spanking my own hand right now because I'm just thinking, um, you know, this man is, uh, the leader of a, of a school. First of all, before I even, um, before stuff even hit the fan, like, I have a friend, um, his name is Abdul, DJ Damage, formerly over at Hollywood Unlocked. How you doing? Uh, he sent his son over to Donda, and I know for a fact that he pulled him out just, you know, voluntarily because of things that he saw. And then, you know, just me not really taking stuff seriously. I need to think about this. This is somebody that leads a school for children, yet you're getting caught out on gondolas in Italy getting blowjobs from your wife. Like, imagine you're going to school as a kid and then the owner of the school is getting a— the principal DJ on a gondola.

Yeah, it's not a good look.

What's going on here? Um, Sean, do you think he's going to beat these allegations? Do you think more stuff that's going to come out? Um, do you think this is the beginning of a domino effect like in the Diddy situation?

I just feel like the teachers should be compensated for wasting their time. They could be at other schools with real syllabuses and following them, teaching students, instead of over there with whatever he got. Okay, what, what the diet syllabus, and I'm a girl, and you want to change it every other week. A syllabus is for the whole structure of while a student's rather in that class, that school, like it's year by year. So you want to change it every other day and put things on there that shouldn't be, having kids learn things that they shouldn't be learning. That's why a lot of parents took their kids out, was because of what they were learning. Okay, we're sending our kids to school for reading, writing, and arithmetic. What that is, what that word, what you doing over there? Absolutely not. Like, uh-uh, we're good on all of that. And I think if he was going to open up a school, it should have been focused more so towards the, like, music, because Kanye is great with that. So like a performing arts school, um, or something like that, I think that would have been a great idea. Then him coming in, giving his structure and how he feels certain things should be going to create stars, I'm all for that. And I think the parents would be too. But no, you're teaching my kids, so whatever you put out here is going to affect them. So I do think some of these losses will be successful. And with— good, right? Again, you wasting these teachers' time. They could be somewhere. No different than Diddy's Academy School too, just being shut down as well. So, um, yeah, same thing. I hope they are compensated.

Yeah, you make a really great point. He probably should have just focused on, um, running an extracurricular program or just, you know, funding music programs over at schools, you know, um, instead of trying to run a whole you know, institution by himself. And now we're seeing why that wasn't a good idea. Um, I really respect his free thinking. Um, you know, it is getting a lot harder to keep, you know, defending him because it's always something. Um, and I mean, I know, Sean, you're gonna be like, forget them, but I really do hope for the best with all of this now. Speaking of people who have to make urgent decisions on what's best for their kid, 50 Cent has filed for full custody on his son with Daphne Joy, who has been linked to the Diddy sex trafficking scandal. Um, so it has been said by Daphne that 50 Cent has only seen his son 10 times in 2 years, and now he wants to file for full custody. Um, I have a myriad of thoughts, but I want to start with you, DJ Jordan, before, um, you know, I share mine.

No, with, with this particular story, I, I think that 50 Cent failed, just straight up. If, if you're, if you're children's mother becomes a sex worker in the industry that you're a part of and you haven't secured her, I look at that as being on you, you know what I mean? If he had the type of relationship, even obviously with the relationship being over, the intimate relationship, y'all still have a relationship because you have children, you know what I mean? And there's just certain things that 50 Cent being 50 Cent, like, this is the guy that brought you know, 48 Laws of Power to the forefront of the hip-hop community, you know what I mean? So think strategically, bro. Everybody that's connected to you in that type of way, you got to make sure they straight and that they don't even have an option or a thought of getting involved with certain type of behavior, because that's a reflection of you at the end of the day. And the fact that he hasn't really had a relationship with his, with his children, you know, that's, that's another L. That's another—

you know, his oldest son took to the internet and really, really— I'm not gonna say crowd wolf, but definitely, um, exposed. You know, just like even when we were, uh, reporting on the Snoop Dogg and her and his daughter, um, story last week. You know, I just really don't feel people taking family business to the internet. And 50's oldest son already let us know what a father-son relationship, right, could actually be like. Um, Sean David, wait, before I ask your thoughts, I wanna you know, put some— throw some things in there that I came across when I was doing some deep digging because I want to know your thoughts. But then I also want to know your thoughts about this. So my question was, well, where did this Daphne Joy come from? Because like I'm looking at her going back and forth with 50 Cent, I'm looking at her history. Very beautiful woman. I do know that she was linked with Diddy, which is one of the many sources to, um, you know, why the two were feuding or are feuding. And so I'm doing my research and I come across the fact that she was first introduced on the scene by D. Ray Davis. She was originally— that's how she got in the game as far as the entertainment dating realm. DJ, uh, D. Ray Davis brought her out, um, and then from there she got on Smooth magazine, you know, which is kind of like the startup for, for baby mamas. And then after doing some deep digging, I come across a deleted tweet from D. Ray Davis, and it said, how you gonna model for Smooth if your box is bumpy? And so then Smooth Magazine, bumpy box. D-Rae Davis's words. He deleted this tweet. So then I keep doing more digging, and Floyd Mayweather, you know, he's going in about 50, and then Floyd Mayweather says out his mouth, how are you gonna tell the world that you got the bubble lumps, the herpes, from DJ? This was said by Floyd Mayweather. And then I did some more digging, and it was alleged that Diddy, amongst his other sex workers, knowing that he was already feuding with 50, had Daphne first sent her over there with the herp-a-lurps to kind of catch him up. Um, the ultimate get back. Uh, a lot of these things are, are adding up. Um, It's very, um, unfortunate to find out that DJ may or may not have the bum bumps. Uh, Sean David Wade, what are your thoughts about these findings?

Oh, no problem. Um, so you're wondering where she came from? A brothel. Because, um, clearly, uh, all of that, that sounds, you know, like, you know, a brothel. So, um, and now my girl, let's start with the whole Stephanie Joy saying that 50 Cent only sees his son 10 times, right? Then why not file for full custody yourself if you're the full-time parent? This man does not see your child. Why not file for yourself? Okay, it's weird. Must be the money. So, um, here, please. Of course, um, it must be the money. So, uh, just to start there, because that doesn't even make sense. Um, and then DJ Jordan me. I agree with some things that you said, but some things that you said were gross. Because if you— if now, um, a wife that you have a child with, even if you get into a situation, you have a child, y'all get married later or prior and have a child, however you do it, right? Um, I would understand him looking out for somebody like that. But knowing that you're with a smut— because he knew he was with a smut. That's why I said that 50 was trolling Daphne when he said, oh, I didn't know you was a sex worker. That was a joke. He knew she was, because how did you meet her? He met her for being a smut. He didn't meet her for being a good woman, everything. No, he met her knowing that she had been around. He knew that sometimes you catch feelings, sometimes, you know, the physical thing goes a little further, you know, when I got to spend a lot of time together. And I feel like that's how it got to the point of them kind of dating. But 50 wasn't like ever out really like claiming her, um, and stuff like that. So yeah, he already knew what was up when he got with her. So I would understand him not feeling like, I need to keep you in a mansion and this and that. Like, no, that's not his responsibility. If you were doing these things before me, you're going to do them after me. So again, a wife I could get. You know, Shaq making sure Shawnee good makes sense to me. You know, them divorcing, getting separated. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

I could get that for real.

Correct. And she wasn't out here doing what, you know— Shawnee was a wife regardless of what was going on in her marriage between her and her husband. It was a wife. So I can understand, you know, and they had a life together, they built a family together, have a lot of memories, good, bad, and indifferent, you know, when they stood before God, you know, what vows and that— whether you're married or not, you still uphold that person, you still look out for them, you still make sure that they're good because it's the death duty part regardless. You could get with somebody else, get remarried, or what— it's still, to me, your responsibility to make sure that that person is good.

But let me, let me ask you this. You don't think because they have a child, and knowing that that's always kind of like a soft spot, um, for any parent, you know what I mean, you don't think that he would— he should have looked out for— on the basis of them having a child together and what that could possibly, you know, the look that it could create for him being, you know, being a public figure?

I feel like he does. Okay, child support, he makes sure that his son is good, you know, and whatnot. Not to say child support— child support is not parenting to me. It absolutely is not. Kids need way more, um, than a check. But it seems like to the mother that that's okay because she said he saw her kids 5 or 10 times since she lived there how many years. So clearly that's okay with her because a real mother, a good mother, the time would be more necessary. Necessary. That check is clear, good enough for her. She said, oh, I'm tired of upholding this image for you. What do you mean upholding what image? If he's not doing the right thing, say he's not doing the right thing. You've been fine with it until this issue arose to where now it's public that you are an ex-worker. Now what's the problem? Now, oh, I've been making sure everybody looks at you as such this good person. Why? Must be the money. So y'all don't feel sorry for that. Um, and she has been around. She absolutely has. Not just D-Ray, there's been plenty of other rappers including people like Meek Mill, um, singer Usher that she has been linked to. I mean, the list just goes on and on and on and on. So yeah, I don't feel sorry for her at all whatsoever.

Linking her to Usher does not help her beat those herpes allegations, I know that much. DJ Jordan, um, do you think that you can turn a hoe into a housewife?

No, not, not, not at all. Because again, as soon as the pressure come, they go back the whole ways, you know what I mean? And, uh, and, and that's, that's the whole point. You, you, you know, you know, with that whole child thing, it's— that's a soft spot, you know what I mean? Because that—

it seems like—

yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's an innocent child, you know what I mean?

So I know what I'm trying—

right, right, absolutely. So now, but I definitely understand Yeah, I do.

Yeah, I get it for a good woman, but I'm not right. No, no, slow.

That's what's up.

Yeah, and I mean, really, them, um, them using her, her body and her sexuality is like collateral. And I mean, like, Diddy literally sending her to allegedly get this man infected with an STD is like—

well, that's her body though.

Symbolicical.

That's her body, so it's not men using her for her body. She's allowing it. She feels that that's her worth. Someone—

yeah, she wasn't— she wasn't an innocent bystander. She was an active—

correct. So yeah, this is her. This ain't got nothing to do with the men. It has everything to do with her because she could have—

she could have easily said hell no and walked away.

All that— she chose not to.

Um, I have a question for you, Sean Davey, um, and then we're gonna go into to a commercial break. So, you know, 50 Cent, he is a legendary troll, um, but that includes— nobody's safe, including his baby mama. So with him saying little sex worker, not only did he say it once, he said it twice, he said it on stage, uh, I believe he even said it on stage performing at Nicki Minaj's concert. You know, he said, I love each and every one of y'all, even you if you're a little sex worker. He said that on stage. Sean, uh, what are your thoughts about 50 Cent taunting his own child's mother? Should he draw the line somewhere?

Um, I— no, a troll is a troll.

A troll is a troll.

A troll has no limit. 50 troll his own son. Who the fuck is she? He told his own child, like, Why?

Why?

He told Tierra Marie, correct? He told Tierra Marie lawsuits. I was like, he's a troll. A troll is a troll. That means they troll everyone. No one is off limits. So no, you don't have to like your kids. It's plenty— you literally got Sexy Red running around here right now talking about my baby daddy. So if she can make songs and anthems and stuff about that, what's wrong with 50? Like, what's the problem. Everybody loved the song Scrubs, but then when they made the song Pigeons, the other— no, y'all was in Scrubs, turn it up, but then Pigeons come out, it's just like, oh, how dare you?

All the time.

Yeah, like he can troll who he want. He's a troll, so no, I don't feel like he has to.

Yeah, and I'll tell you, I'll tell you this, ain't no beef like that baby mama, baby daddy be.

My goodness. Yeah, it run.

Jesus. Well, Daphne, you knew who you were having a child with. Um, one thing about me, I don't have to wait till something happens to me when dealing with a person to see how they are and make decisions for myself. Uh, you walk right into a relationship with the legendary troll knowing about all of your stuff wasn't clean, and he had plenty of ammo if he chose to go that way with you. So, um, not gonna say that I'm praying for you, but I do hope you develop thicker skin in the decisions that you've made.

I'm not praying for you, Sean.

Don't see it for none of y'all. Okay, so, um, after the commercial break, uh, more on this Diddy stuff. Cassie up $100 million from a 24-hour settlement and still cooperating with the feds. Um, we're gonna get into some more conspiracy theories on Diddy, uh, more specifically conspiracy theories that are being spread by Claudia Jordan over at Fox Soul. And Stevie, in regards to Diddy, says, I'm gonna stand beside him. More after the break. The Browns, why knows. Hey, Miss Tina Brown.

Tina Brown.

Okay. Shane Brown, you ready?

Yeah, I'm ready.

Now, I ain't going to lie. Like, I love Bobby Brown. You and Bobby, how close were y'all? Very close. What was it like living with Whitney?

It was fun.

You smoke crack with Whitney, you said? That's pretty—

Absolutely. You don't know that?

We only know Bobby and Whitney. And every time he's sitting down, he talk about Whitney. And I'm like, how, as a new wife, do you deal with this? That's why I hit that bitch with a bottle.

And it dwindled down to, you know, some people that's—

went down to my brother touching 3 of my daughters. Who, Bobby? Yes.

So what? Yes, you know. Yes, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, I can't hold it no more.

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I think this is wonderful. I think this is incredible. Um, shout out to Cassie, okay? Um, for just doing what needs to be done The reason I say I think this is incredible is because, one, this is something we already knew. Um, when Cassie sat down with Diddy— or she sat down with— well, she didn't, like, literally, but their lawyers sat down with each other before the lawsuit came out. So Cassie could have settled behind the scenes. Cassie wanted this information public by filing that lawsuit because she— well, her— Diddy's original— so this is why he fired them. It's because they came to Cassie. Cassie said, look at here, because he was offering upwards between $1 to $10 million for Cassie to walk away, and it was just with the lawsuit part, but she had a tell-all book too. So she's like, look at here, I got a tell-all book and it's already ready to go. So no, I'm not—

do you know what she was gonna say in it?

I have no idea. I, I hear that there was a big chapter about Kim Porter, and I would have really loved to have read that chapter, um, and to see what she had to say about Kim, because they were really close. Well, closest they could be. Um, so that's when, uh, Cassie was like, look here, $30 mil and I'll walk away. The tell-all book goes away, the lawsuit goes away. So Diddy and his team agreed to give Cassie $30 million. What Cassie did was smart. She filed the lawsuit. So then that's why it was settled so quickly, because they had already settled outside of court. Technically. They had already like, okay, this discloses this amount. So that's why I feel like it's way more than $100 million. I, I don't think it was $100 million that Cassie got in that settlement. I think it was way more than that.

More?

Okay, some are saying less. Yes, based off of the shortened lawsuit that she has submitted. The original lawsuit was supposed to have been upwards of like 300 pages. So to keep it light She just put— but because everything she put was criminal.

Him, R-wording, $100 million.

Yeah, very so much. Um, because she was going to go into detail about a lot of things, and this is why I believe it was more than $100 million, because lawsuits start off as civil, but if you are listing crimes in the lawsuit, then that becomes criminal. So now you're switching courts. So then the judge is not going to sit there and ignore a woman suing for being R-worded. That is a crime. So there, a charge has to come about for it. So this is why he never wanted any of this information out in the first place, because he knew that RICO and criminal charges could stem from the things that she was going to say, because she has proof. Cassie also has audio, she has pictures, and so much, and so on and so forth. The doctor records from the doctor's office. And so she has so much, um, against him. So I believe Cassie was always planning on this takedown when it comes to Diddy, because she's been working with the feds for years. So this is not unexpected. That's why I said it's wonderful, because for her to sue, then that means that she's ready to talk. So if she's ready to sue him, then she's ready to testify against him, is how I looked at it. Because you can't close Pandora's box. Cassie submitted that lawsuit, those criminal charges are coming. She was definitely going to be subpoenaed either way, um, it went. So her working with them willfully is great because, yeah, it just means she's ready.

I think she was definitely, um, you know, she, she made amends after the settlement. Um, I do think she was okay with, okay, we've settled this, but when the feds come knocking, you got to cooperate or you incriminate yourself, you know what I'm saying? And I mean, that's something that he did or did not think about. Maybe the settlement kind of, um, will alter how much she exposes to them, but she has to talk to them whether she wants to or not, or she's going to get, um, in very big trouble. Um, I know a lot of people are like, oh my God, how can you take that money and still do that? But again, when the feds come to your door, even if you don't answer, honey, they're gonna come in there like Homeland Security did. DJ Jordan, what are your thoughts about Cassie working with the feds?

No, I, I think that this was the worst-case scenario and the perfect storm against Diddy. You know, like you said, the civil part he could handle. That's totally financial. You know what I mean? Even though it resulted in him being forced to step down from Revolt and all of that due to the sponsors and the advertisers and all of that, he could handle that and still salvage his reputation. But given the nature, and this is just what I'm thinking, given the nature of some of the allegations that were in the suit that she had to, you know, put in there. The feds, the feds had to look at that, you know what I mean? They had to look at it. Was no way, like you said, you can ignore the R-word there, you know what I mean? You— there is no way that you can ignore allegations of, yeah, sex trafficking and, and underage people, you know what I mean? And so at some point, I think Diddy was probably hoping that it wouldn't get picked up by the feds, but But it's, it was, it's the worst case scenario. And, and, and, you know, like we all know, and you just said, when the feds come asking questions, you got to answer, you know what I mean? She, she already got her money. And so at the end of the day, there may still be a little bit of, of, of get back, you know, and I'm sure there is on her part because according to, you know, what she said, she was absolutely dogged out for the better part of a decade. Like, that's That's some real shit to go through, you know what I mean? And so, um, I, I personally don't think dude is going to survive this. I, I don't, I don't, I don't see, I don't see how. I think it's just a matter of time that they end up in— that it folds, because the people around him are not going to stand up. There's no way that they can stand up against those charges and defend him.

Yeah, uh, well, and Lou, and speaking of somebody, um, who is ready to talk but also knows much more about Diddy than what we're saying or what they are saying. Uh, Claudia Jordan alludes to Diddy having something to do with Al B. Sure's coma, on top of recklessly listing out a list of people who are allegedly slain at the hands of Diddy. Now there's a lot to unpack here. I also live in LA, um, I know my fair share of people, and I want to speak on some things after you guys comment. But I want to get into a video of what she said first. I want y'all to just think about something real quick. Al B. Sure and Diddy are the only ones that are alive from that record company, right?

The only ones.

That are alive. Allegedly Heavy D was working on a book about his life, dead. And this is all on the internet.

You—

I think Jaguar talks about this. Um, Andre Harrell supposedly was going to talk about his life, dead.

Al B.

Sure supposedly was working on this before and then went into a coma. I remember this. Al B. Sure is a friend of mine. We used to work out together in LA.

I know him.

Right before this coma, y'all, he was training for those celebrity boxing matches and then falls into this coma and he almost died. Like they said, when they open up his insides and did the surgery, it was liquefied. So when things like this happen in your life, will you be a little bit more tight-lipped about things? Could that be a reason why maybe you didn't act the way we would normally think someone should act? I also think, in my opinion, because when Kim Porter, when she passed, she had nothing negative before she died. She had nothing negative to say about Abby Short's parenting skills. You never heard her say that he was not a good dad. Never. I believe he was pushed out by Diddy. I believe Diddy wooed Quincy. I believe Diddy offered the fun stuff. You know, you see he takes his kids drinking and hanging out and partying. What young, good-looking, uh, kid is not going to want to go along with that? Like, I just believe he was wooed away from his real dad with, with things. And I think Al B. Sure finally feels comfortable. This is my opinion, y'all. This is my opinion. I think he feels comfortable speaking on it now. I do believe that there were suspicious things around Al B. Shore going into a coma. I do believe in it. Al B. Shore is not a thirsty guy. He's not. He's never been. He could have released a book when Kim passed. He could have done this a long time— he could have done a lot of stuff that he did not do. So I don't know, but I, I don't think he's a clout chaser. I don't. I really don't. Oh no. Uh, okay, Sean Daveway, before we really get into the get into, uh, what are your thoughts about this whole hit list that Claudia Jordan went down in terms of her allegedly, or accusing Diddy for allegedly, taking out pretty much everybody that had something to do with the foundation of Uptown Music Group?

No, I think what was displayed by Claudia— um, shout out to Claudia— um, I think what was displayed is obvious. Um, some things people just don't think about until you think about it, and some things people just don't know about. So when it comes to Diddy allegedly taking people out and whatnot, I completely um, would believe that. But I mean, having a list means you have proof. Um, there's— again, there's a lot of speculation, but there's no proof of any of these things that are being stated. So with the whole Kim Porter writing a tell-all book, Heavy D writing a tell-all book, again, these could be coincidences, or it could be that Diddy had something to do with it. I'm a firm believer in keeping information information, and instead of making a rumor information. A rumor is not information, you know, it's just what it is. So if you're basing what you have off of some type of proof, like there's proof that Diddy is connected to things that happen to Biggie, there's proof that Diddy is connected to things that happen to Tupac. I, I don't— I've never seen any proof of Diddy being connected to anything Craig Mack or Heavy D, you know, but I've heard things, you know, I've heard rumors, but that doesn't mean that they are actually True. Um, even back in the day, Wendy Williams, she said a lot about, um, certain people disappearing around Diddy. And then you looked up, Diddy was on her show. They went from having smoke to— because Diddy hated Wendy Williams. And then you looked up and he was on her show. So I, I don't know, we'll see. Uh, shout out to Claudia Jordan if she has proof of these things she's saying. She has— she is an industry insider. She has hung out with Diddy. There's pictures of them, um, out there and whatnot. I do know she does know Al B. Shore, so she has proof of these things. Cool, I'm all for it. But other than that, it's just speculation to me.

I would like to piggyback off of what you said, um, and my, my sources here in LA are definitely, uh, my sources. There are women that don't have to be famous to be inside, know what they need to know, know who they need to know, see text messages. It is not my ministry to divulge stuff to that information. But with her going down this whole list of people that he possibly murdered, which is a very reckless accusation when it comes to something like this— we're all commenting on things that are public discussion. There are a lot of people that know more, you know, about the behind the scenes, including myself. But me personally, I'm trying to not say certain things until there is a conviction, because every little thing that is said about this Black man is going to contribute, you know, to him being found guilty, if that's the case. Now, um, I talked to some sources, did a little digging. My problem with Claudia is she went down this list of, oh, this person is not here, this person is not here. She has so many comments and thoughts about his alleged sex workers and his girls, but she failed to mention to y'all that she was once one of them. Um, if you guys have a picture, uh, yes, Claudia Jordan. Uh, first of all, can we just take a moment of silence to look at the body language in this picture?

Oh my God.

Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Now let me tell you something. One thing I do is get men, and I know my body language when I'm with the men that I've been dealing with. And that— who mess with Diddy? How dare you get on here and try to tell people, you know, inside tea that's not inside. All you're doing is regurgitating everything that Jaguar Wright said. Who? Jaguar Wright. You know, she, she gets on blogs and she inside details about Diddy. A lot of times they are, uh, they do end up having a lot of validation and backing, but you know, it's still hearsay at the end of the day. But all she did is regurgitate everything that Jaguar Wright says, and it's like, how dare you have the audacity to try to expose something like that and fail to mention that you were once one of his women? Riddle me this, riddle me that. He can't even sell you because you gave out free trials on your cat, honey. You know what I'm saying? Another thing that's really pissing me off about this is one thing that I'm never gonna allow to happen. I get along with all people of all races. I have a very colorful life, but we are not going to negate the fact— negate the fact that Claudia Jordan is half white. And she was raised by a white woman. Okay, we are not going to overlook the fact that this is a tale as old as time when white women have come on to black men wanting a piece of that. And then once the black man experienced them and they're not impressed, then they want to run to the public, play victim, claim the R-word, knowing that that's going to result in that Black man before, uh, before, um, integration getting lynched. And in today's time, you're on here claiming he killed so-and-so, but not failing to— failing to mention that you came on to him back in the day knowing that's going to contribute to a public lynching of him.

You don't like her, do you?

Very irresponsible with your platform right now, Claudia. I'm very disappointed in you. And you did all of that, got hit by the whole industry, all for what? Just to end up in a middle seat on a panel just like I am, on a platform with half the subscribers that we have over here on Unwind with Tasha K. DJ Jordan, what are your thoughts?

Wow. Yeah, um, I'm, I'm, I'm processing. Because I didn't know, I didn't know Claudia was at one point into all that, you know what I mean? I didn't even know she would.

She still is. Stop playing with me.

Well, I'm trying, I'm trying to give it the benefit of the doubt because, you know, I know y'all notice we got the same last name, so prayerfully we ain't, we ain't no, no, no, no. Well, well, we disinvited her from the cookout in the family reunion. But now, but, but seriously, I, I think she should have been transparent with the relationship, you know, first and foremost, because—

hold up, transparent how?

What's that?

Transparent how?

At least mentioning the fact that at some point she had a romantic relationship with Diddy, and that would have helped to create context around some of her comments, right? But to mention—

to say, before I say this, guys, I was a freak-off for Diddy. But now—

and then projected freak-off, that's what he's mad about, right?

And then even with that, you know, the audience could have taken her as having some inside information because he was once inside of her, right? So at the end of the day So at the end of the day, I think that that would have went a long way to, uh, to help, you know, buttress some of her, uh, some of her statements. But at the same time, because again, she's talking about people that have been unalived, you know what I mean? Those are accusations that there's no statute of limitations on that. So you, to your point, he can find himself being investigated for those types of allegations 20, 30 years from now, you know what I mean? Because there's no statute of limitations. So you have to be able to give full context and full disclosure to those types of things. And the fact that she didn't do that is, is disingenuous, to say the least.

Exactly. Don't be getting on here and talk about some, oh, I'm just gonna speak my truth on it, and not tell us the whole truth. It is a very big key component. You and your friend who shall not be named— again, that's not my ministry unless it comes up on my show rundown, okay— used to go put on your little ho suit and run out with Diddy and another well-known, um, rap mogul, okay? And not— it doesn't matter who they were married to or with at the time, y'all used to slide. And now you are playing victim because he does not want you, and you are a woman scorned on the internet, and you're telling everything except for what we really need to know, and that's that you are one of his rejected freak-offs. Sean Davy Way, do you have any closing thoughts on Miss Claudia Jordan recklessly, um, alleging that Diddy, um, is a murderer?

Um, I, I, I, I believe that there's some truth to a lot of these things, but I haven't seen any proof of them. So until I see proof of them, then yeah. And I like Claudia. Um, I don't know, now you're saying she's a freak-off, cool. I'm gonna look into that because I had no idea, um, of any of this information. So, um, but yeah, but shout out to Claudia Jordan. Um, yeah, I look forward to seeing what she has to say in the future.

Yeah. Um, half white, um, it's still— you have some white in you. And honey, what we're never going to do is get on a platform that's also ran by all white people and make these allegations and play Karen against a fully Black man, wrong, right, or indifferent. Me, my fully Black self from Georgia, I don't play that, honey. Okay, if you gonna be real, be all the way real. Okay, um, another person involved in this whole Diddy debacle, we got our guy Stevie J. Stevie, um, Stevie J is Standing beside his man Diddy, uh, he said that, uh, he ain't never seen, uh, Diddy do anything. I want us to look at a clip of his words and then get into it.

So I was at his crib working in the studio. I was sitting outside the studio door and I heard a big boom. Now mind you, before we get into this, I'm, I'm not a spring chicken even though I look fire, stuff. But I've witnessed some historical events of excessive force, but none like this since, um, Saddam Hussein or El Chapo, Pablo Escobar, even Osama bin Laden. I heard a big boom, so I'm thinking like, you know, a lot of people do work on the island all day long, so I'm figuring someone dropped some materials. Heard it again. Turn my head, I'm hearing armored vehicles. 3 big armored vehicles come, dudes jump out. I got 50 dots on my shirt screaming, yo, get on the ground. I'm like, yo, really? I'm the only one here. Someone does in their bedroom, that's what they do. I don't got nothing to do with that. I'm just here to say that I've never seen my man doing anything foul like they talking None of it. All of it. I mean, I've never seen it. I've known him for 29 years.

Well, it's hard to see things when you are knee-deep in some under— never mind. Uh, Sean David Wade, what are your thoughts about Stevie's, uh, never seeing any— anything foul from Diddy?

Um, Stevie is gay. Um, so he just sat there and said that Um, you know, I ain't never seen nothing weird, you know, and all this stuff. But then he goes right back to say, it don't matter what you do, I don't care what you do in your bedroom. What do you mean? What do you mean you don't care? That gives gay. When hetero dudes say— when heterosexual men, alleged, because he's alleged, okay— when heterosexual men say, I don't care what you do in your bedroom, or what you do in your bedroom ain't got nothing to do with me, that is code for I don't care about you being gay. I don't care about you letting him hit you when you're booed. Like, that ain't got nothing to do with me, you know what I'm saying? You up in there shooting that thing up, letting it roll, that's between y'all two, okay? Y'all in there to put the butt darts, you know, and all of that stuff. I just don't get down with that. It's what that is giving. So if you're saying these things, I don't— you know, what you do in your bedroom, that is cold. But he is gay. YMCA gay. I'm a pony gay. Is what that were. So Stevie coming forward, sticking next to Puffy, makes complete sense because Diddy has been paying his way for quite some time. Okay, they've been doing— even Eve.

DJ Jordan, I want to know some of your brief thoughts on that, and then, yeah, finish your thought, Sean.

I like where you were going with it.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I took a moment to—

no, because It was a moment of silence back in the day when Stevie J was dating Eve. Stevie and Eve had a tape that was going around. Stevie was putting certain objects inside of her, you know, and whatnot in the video. And these are the same objects that, if you remember Gene Deal, which is Diddy's old bodyguard from the '90s, stated when he went to an adult store with Diddy that Diddy bought toys. The same toys that Gene was talking about was the same toys that Stevie was using on Eve in the video that they made back in the day, and I'm a Girl. So it's definitely very so much giving that Diddy was there with Eve and Stevie J, that that was a freak-off, um, if you will. So Stevie and, uh, Diddy go way back with the freak-off days and the partying days and the African days and the girls longer. It goes way back, way far. So of course, if one person is going to stick by Diddy, it's going to be Stevie J. He has too much to lose. If Diddy goes, so does Stevie's check. So you best believe he's gonna be out here cheerleading and doing what he needs to do for his man. He absolutely is. DJ George?

Nah, you— I concur 1,000%. You know, it's definitely sending them type of vibes just for the length of time that, you know, they've been knowing each other, right? But given the fact that in that length of time you have nerve enough to come in front of the people and say you've never witnessed anything, that's, that's impossible. You know what I mean? That's impossible for you to know this guy and be in a relationship with this guy for, for 30 years. You, you know a lot more than what you're saying. You know what I mean? You were, you were somebody that was really close with him. That is still close with him when you probably had hundreds of people who have come and gone over those last 30 years. You've stayed the whole time. So what does that say? You know what I mean? You know more than what you— than what you're speaking to. And then also the fact that you wanted to have a physical altercation with 50 Cent because he began to put some things out there by way of social media alleging the relationship. You also felt a way about that to the point to where you wanted to put hands on 50. So there's a lot more you know what I mean, that Stevie J knows and what he's admitting to. And I, and I get it, you know what I mean, because if your whole persona is being a heterosexual man or male and you're not that, then you feel like you got a whole lot to hide.

I agree. Um, so with— first of all, they're definitely still close because Stevie J said that he was actually one of the only people in the Miami house when it got raided. Um, recently Uh, like you said, he's going to do everything he needs to do to cheerlead for his man, his friend, to, um, keep— what's it called? Freudian slip. Um, he's gonna do everything he can for his homie, you know, to clean up the image. He's going to keep that check coming in. Uh, Stevie J recently posted a video saying this is what a Diddy party actually looks like. Could we roll that video, please? Happy birthday to me!

Everybody put your glasses up in the air.

Let's take a toast to Sean Combs, Puff Daddy, Ken Porter.

Let's go, everybody, take a shot! So first of all, this is me looking for CVJ in that video. Uh, in my opinion, he's nowhere to be found. Also TV, we don't want to see what the party looks like from 8 PM to 12. We want to see the after-hours footage. That is what's at question here. Sean David, what are your thoughts about Stevie J posting this video? This is what a Diddy party looks like. And what are your thoughts about the images that you saw?

Um, I thought all the gays was in the back. Um, I saw a lot of spiked drinks. Um, I saw minors. I saw all of the predators. I saw Justin Combs. Uh, I saw all of the people that's preying on people and, uh, uh, uh, gays. They said all the drinks be spiked and all of that stuff. Yeah, it was a whole bunch of underage. The Combs twins. I saw everything. Everything he been accused of.

That's what—

that's what I saw.

He—

they showed the entrance. That was everybody coming in. That's all that work. That's it. All the unholy stuff, because it'd be the same stuff going on in the back, just everybody naked.

You didn't see Black excellence?

Where? DJ Jordan, what are your thoughts about Stevie? What are your thoughts about the video? And then what are your thoughts about Stevie posting the video going so hard for Diddy, talking about some—

this is what a Diddy party looks You know, that, that, that video kind of gives me Hugh Hefner, Clive Davis, Quincy Jones type, type vibes. And we all know the nature of those situations. That's, that's what it reminded me of. Looked like they was trying to capture some Harlem Renaissance or, you know what I mean, back in the day. But we all know, like you said, it's the afterparty. That, that's, that's really the real party. You know what I mean? So there's the face that the public sees, and then there's, you know, the backstage backstory. You know what I mean? That, uh, you got to be one of the chosen to even be a part of. So, um, so at the end of the day, it's— none of this stuff is a secret, you know? And, um, and I'm just surprised that it took this long to really come out, you know? He's obviously been flying high for the better part of 30 years, and now it's just time for that thing to crash. And it's going— it's going to be tragic. It's going to be painful. And a lot of people are going to be— I think a lot of careers are going to be destroyed as a result of all of this.

Piggybacking off of what you said about you think that it's gonna come to an end, it's gonna crash down, what I found very interesting about that footage is it really puts you in the mind of a scene from Great Gatsby, how they used to party during the Art Deco era, which is very interesting that Jay-Z is also executive producer on the version with Leonardo DiCaprio. But what I would like to point out about the story of The Great Gatsby, Jay Gatsby, is he was this man of pomp and circumstance, luxury, opulence. He threw these amazing parties. He had the who's who and everybody around him. Nobody really knew the source of his money. He would say one thing, but it's like, okay, even though you did this, how did you get this much money though? How does Jay Gatsby get his money? And when everything came crashing down, all of those people that always frequented his parties, they were nowhere around. And so I find that very, very similar because, you know, just as many people— well, the few people are sticking up for him, like Stevie, you know, Slim Thug and Cry Reese. But, you know, again, you saw hundreds in those videos, and a lot of them are silent right now, which puts me in the mind of the story of Great Gatsby.

Sean David, subpoena. I thought room full of subpoenas, a room full of subpoenas, that's all that were. Because again, for this to be such a great party, why weren't you there? Were you still locked in Star Mansion in the studio? Did he not let you out that night? So, um, and my girl, because that's what it gives. Stevie J fits the complete description of a freak-off. Looking at Cassie's, um, lawsuit she displayed that Diddy wanted her to go and get some BBC, okay, some big black, um, and I'm a girl, um, is what she wanted Diddy to go and get. So Stevie J fits the description of exactly what he was looking for, um, in his freak-offs and whatnot. So, and it's also alleged that Stevie J is in a lot more paperwork than he think, um, that he is in. I think that's why, uh, Diddy is clinging so close to him right now.

He's—

because some people have jumped ship. Not everyone, but some people have jumped ship. So he's trying to keep his whole little— everyone that could, that he— that's touchable, he's touching. And Stevie J is one of those people to keep on his side because he's gonna need these people. Because as you said, all of those people in the room, you only seen a few people come forward and defend Diddy and back him. So So those other people are against him pretty much, or want no dealings, because he can't even get Jay-Z to answer the phone. Jay-Z done canceled two events this year thus far. He canceled the Rock Nation brunch. There's a festival that Jay-Z normally throws, um, around this time of year. He canceled that as well. Made in America. Um, so he canceled that as well. So, and Diddy has been a part of his Made in America events before, and some of his artists have performed there, like French Montana, you know, and people like that. So yeah, a lot of people are backing away from him, so he's trying to keep as many people on ship as he can because the ship is sinking. It's like the Titanic right now.

Yes, it is. Yes. DJ Jordan, do you have any closing thoughts about Stevie J and the rest of these people who— by the way, I mean, can we point out the fact that Stevie J this whole time has identified with being the member of the creep squad? Like, one thing I know about men is They don't— good men don't identify as certain things. Like, I had an ex, he would always do these little Rusty freestyles and he'd be like, I'm a bad man, I'm a bad man. And then like when time and years unfolded, that was like 6 years ago, he really was a bad person. I don't think people be running around calling themselves bad boys and creep squads if they were angels. Um, so DJ Jordan, any closing thoughts about—

no, yeah, there's definitely, you know, a lot to that, but, um To Sean's point, it's sinking like the Titanic, you know, and it's going— it's— while it's interesting, um, you know, I hate to see the demise of another Black man, you know what I mean? But I think that, you know, the time has come. Katt Williams mentioned so much of what was going to happen in 2024, and it's happening, you know what I mean? He also said that there would be some other people, uh, you know, brought to the light, so to speak. And it's going to be interesting to see because we're not even halfway into the year yet, you know, how the rest of this thing plays out. And I'm already, I'm already knowing that 2025 is going to be off the chain as well because I'm sure that's where probably where a lot of these trials and, and, and court proceedings are going to take place. Now is the, the season of investigation, uh, allegation, uh, innuendo, but it's all going to come you know, to the light. And, uh, the feds are involved now, and, you know, they, they, they got fat while everybody starved, you know.

Yes, yes. So well said. As DJ Jordan said, now is the seasoning of reckoning. What a time to be alive. There could not be a better time for Tasha K to come through and bless us with a rundown show. Like wine is the new tea. Literally, the people are keeping this show going. We don't even have to work that hard, and all we have to do is show up to work and make comedy commentary on what's going on. Um, you guys can catch us back here every Tuesday and Thursday, um, 12 PM Eastern Standard Time, 9 AM Pacific. Sean Daveway, can you tell them where they can find you and what you got coming up?

Absolutely. My name is Sean Daveway. I'm incredible, and I'm over here on YouTube and also on Ko-fi, K-O-F-I, underneath the same name. Everything is spelled the same. Shout out to Tasha K, shout out to Wine Is a New Tea. I really appreciate being here. Absolutely awesome.

We always enjoy you and your energy. DJ Jordan, can you tell the people what you got coming up? Tell them where they can find you and also tell them about that awesome olive leaf extract that you have.

Absolutely. Shout out to Tasha K and shout out to all of the winos. You can catch me on my podcast. I just created a podcast a couple months ago called Relax and Take Notes. On YouTube, RTN Podcast. On Instagram, RTN Podcast on Instagram. And you can also find us with our product line, olive leaf extract, at shopmyoliveleaf.com. shopmyoliveleaf.com, where we do all things wellness from high blood pressure, diabetes, cholesterol, eczema, candida, you name it, we deal with it. shopmyoliveleaf.com.

Awesome. We always enjoy you and we also enjoy your sponsorship over here. Well, DJ Jordan. Absolutely, Jordan, where the money resides. As for me, I am comedian Ashley Burgess, the actress. I do my own stunts. You can find me here again on April 16th, hosting live, having a good time. And you might even see me pop up at one of the locations on Tasha K's tour. Again, you can go over to tashakonstage.com and check out her tour dates. She's going to be in Baltimore at Baltimore Comedy Factory on April 14th. Please go get tickets now. And again, April 21st, West Coast. Tasha is crashing the scene. Pleasanton, Oakland, San Francisco area. She's going to be at Tommy T's Comedy Club. So again, that's April 21st. Make sure you guys go over to tashakonstage.com, check out those tour dates. Also check out some more interviews and Tasha K Live. And, um, yes, we're gonna see you guys back here on Tuesday. Thank you.