Exclusive | D.L. Whisper Said TOO MUCH… now everybody panicking 👀

So a highly, highly requested interview. The DL Whisperer is in the building.

Finally.

Oh my God.

I'm glad that we could sit down because I know we was talking virtual and then I'm like, in person is going to hit a lot different.

I feel like that because like you have been like racking a lot of people's nerves online.

For nothing. I'm trying to help them.

Okay, so what does the DL Whisperer mean? Like, explain.

Yeah, so of course we know DL men, um, down low men. So, okay, the whisperer part is because I feel like after my experiences— because, you know, I don't shy away from telling people that I have dealt with DL men in the past when I was young and naive before.

First of all, you're talking about in the past? Like, you look like a child.

How old are you? I'm 28.

What? Yeah, but in the past, like 18, I thought you was like still around that age, like 18, 19.

You get that a lot, but I'm not.

You're tall as fuck though, but go ahead. Explain the Whisperer part now. Go ahead.

So, um, you know, I, I got attacked because I, I feel like you're kind of asking like, how did we get here?

No, like what made you like start, you know, like what does your name mean? What made you start your platform?

So, um, I was I'm formerly known as the DL Loverboy. A lot of— you're gonna see a lot of people talk about the DL Loverboy. They're gonna tell you that I was bashing women and, you know, bragging about being with DL men. They'll never show you any video proof. But essentially, when I got attacked by this Indian DL dude that I was dealing with for 5 years, it kind of like brought me back to reality. Because as a person that didn't date, I didn't really know what— how DL men were. I didn't know that they were crazy. I didn't know that they were trying you to keep a secret. You know, I didn't know any of these things. So once that happened—

you don't watch the news?

Well, I didn't— you don't really think about this when you see stuff on the internet. Do they ever say that the man is DL?

No, they don't say that.

So I, I had no clue.

We, we kind of figure it out, especially when it's dealing with like transgender people.

I didn't— that's what— even with transgender people, I didn't know about transgender people until 2020. Like, you know, I had heard transvestite from Flavor of Love growing up, but I didn't I never knew what that was. So in 2020, when TikTok was popular, I saw people transitioning and sticking theyself with needles, and I went against it. 'Cause people always say that, I'm just doing this just now. I've always been against transgender people because—

I heard there's an underlying beef between the LGBTQ and the T's. There's us versus them, and they're not a part of us.

Yeah, they're not.

Essentially, gender has nothing to do with your sexuality.

Thank you. But as you can see, what do the trans women always do? Fight to be a part of every single thing that they can be a part of. So they fought to be a part of the LGBT. The first letter is L. It was started for lesbians. The LGBT was originally created for women. They wanted women to have equal healthcare access, which they still don't have. So that's why I'm like, it was never created for people of gender identity.

So the T is an LGBT?

Think about it, everything is the sexuality except the T. Okay, the T is the only gender identity. But the, the trans women, like you see now, they want to be a part of everything. So they fought in 1960, in the 1960s, to be a part of the LGBT, to be included. And now they're upset because guess what I'm gonna say? You're a gay man. Okay, okay, okay. But yeah, you're a gay man because At the end of the day, if we're going by sexuality, you're a gay man. If we're going by gender, I guess you can call yourself a woman. So they don't like that I refer to them as gay men, but we have the same body parts, we have sex in the same hole, we have the same hormones. At 45, we're all gonna go and get a doctor to stick a finger up our butt for a prostate exam. So we're all men. You're a gay man, you're just hyper feminine. Like I'm feminine, I don't ever deny that, but I'm not hyper feminine. There's never been a time where I wanted to be a woman, thought I was the woman. You know, I don't think like—

metrosexual.

Yeah, well, I don't— I think metrosexual is still not the same. Like, trans women think that they're women. Like, they think that they're you.

Oh, I mean, that's—

they can think that, but they really believe it.

But they can think that.

Yeah, but I mean, and there's science, there's science though. True, but there's laws that protect them.

That's cool. I mean, we— yeah, I mean, we have laws, but laws could be undone.

Yeah, that's what I'm working towards. So you are actually trying to undo the laws when it comes to trans people? Yeah, I want to lobby. Yes, I want to lobby. I want to grasp through it. I want to raise money because—

So you're trying to get into politics when it comes to this?

I didn't want to, but I don't really— I feel like I don't have a choice. I'm seeing that it's hurting more women than anything. It hurts women and children. That's why I'm like, when I started as the DL Whisperer, I was just being the DL Whisperer. The trans women, who do they always protect? DL Men. DL Men.

I just was confused when it came to trans women because, you know, a lot of times— and I don't like to call them women, I say trans people.

Yeah.

You know, I'm not saying trans man, I'm not saying trans people. Yeah, I was repeating what you were saying. So because everybody has a right to be called what they want to be called, but you are a trans person. So, um, but I noticed a lot of times, like, Young Buck— I, I have to, I have to speak on Young Buck in Young Buck's I'm gonna jump over this fence here. Because even though there's been rumors circulating around his sexuality and things like that, Young Buck was never married, you know what I'm saying? From what I knew, he didn't have any commitment to any woman. And so there was a trans person that had set up a camera in his room and you saw the trans person giving Buck head. But he said that, "I thought it was a woman that I was talking to. I did not think it was a man." And when I asked, penetrate. They said, she said, the person said the period was on. So of course they gave me head, you know what I'm saying? So to hear that this was an actual man in a wig, he said he was Florida. So my thing is, it's like, if you want me to call you a woman personally, why are you outing men?

Right.

So if you're outing a man for sleep— you're not outing a man for sleeping with a woman, you're outing a man for sleeping with a what?

A man. Because they ultimately know, like, it's beneficial for men to dress up as women and cosplay as women. Like, it's financially beneficial, um, even with—

towards a lifestyle.

Yeah, it's the lifestyle. Yes, it's beneficial. So a lot of them— and I use the word transmaxxer Okay, what's that?

I've never heard that.

Okay, so a trans maxer is a gay feminine man that couldn't make it as a man. Because let's just be very clear, these trans women be ugly as fuck as men. They be bad body as fuck. They be everything that nobody— let's talk about the gay community. No fats, no films, no uglies. So a lot of these trans women are fat, film, and ugly. So, you know, a lot of— and that's why you hear them bring up— every time you get into an argument, they're gonna bring up men. Oh, you're just mad because we get these— that's the only reason they transition, for money and for men. They transition to sell their bodies because when you have boobs and you have a dick, people are gonna find that more entertaining for the people that love porn and people that love perverted things. So of course they're gonna pay for it. I've never seen a trans woman give up their dick for free. So, you know, they're gonna make money. And then with the whole appearance, they get to kind of like trick people and kind of cosplay as women. So it's just beneficial to them ultimately. Like they couldn't make it as me. You see me, I'm a gay man, proudly.

Wow.

I'm just— this is the truth.

Like, look at—

let's flirt. But I'm saying, like, look at T.S. Madison.

I'm like, I'm innocent in all this. I'm just— I'm, I'm just a realist, a very practical—

me too. That's why I like you, you know?

But like, I can't, I can't say those things the way you say them because like people's feelings get hurt. I mean, I do refer to the ones that out men as wigs, right? Like, you're not— and you don't bleed, you know. And there's a lot of videos, a lot of footage of them trying to attack me and, you know, beat me down.

Cherry— that when I was about to fight Cherry, I was like, wasn't you trying to fight Tasha K? I had brought up like all of them trying to fight me.

She could try, right?

But I mean, but the point was is that why—

make sure—

why are you trying to fight women? Why you won't fight a man? Because when I tried to fight him—

But isn't he like the main person that's like on the internet, like exposing people? And I have trans people that are my friends. Like Flay Monroe, that's my heart, you know? And I gotta tell you, the stuff that we talk about behind the scenes, he's like, I don't know what these new T's are doing. That's not what we do. We did this to, as you said, to dress up, to cosplay, to entertain. Yeah, but now they're getting into the whole exposé, extortion, right, of it all. Yeah, you like the one which I'm—

yeah, I do, which I'm not mad at them exposing those DL men because to me, do you feel like they should be exposed if they're—

if they're in relationships? Yeah, but what if they're not in relationships and they don't sleep with women and they don't try to be with women? That's probably their sexuality be outed.

No, that's the closeted man. See, that's the difference. DL and closeted are different.

Oh, okay.

So yeah, let me break it down a little bit.

Cheers. Okay, break it down.

Because see, and a lot of people, this is why they hate my content, because a lot of men, as a gay man, you're going to start in the closet. Like I always tell people, 2016, when Obama done what he did, that kind of opened up the landscape for people.

What did Obama do?

He signed a bunch of laws that allowed gay people to get married and, you know, some other stuff with gay rights. And I feel like that opened the door for people to be openly gay because I I was closeted until 2016 when I graduated high school.

But you weren't DL?

But I wasn't DL, 'cause I've never been sexually into women. So I always knew that I was gay.

So you're talking about the ones that intentionally sleep with women.

Right, that's DL.

And then go off and sleep with a man, but will try everything to hide it.

Boom.

I didn't even know there were two definitions.

Yeah, and I was closeted, whereas I just didn't want people to know. So when I started even dating DL men, because I was so unaware and oblivious, I didn't know that there was a difference. So when men were telling me that, that they're DL, I'm not equating that to, I probably have a wife, probably have children. I'm just thinking he just doesn't tell people his sexuality. But that wasn't the case. That's what I'm saying. Like, I didn't— if you're not in that world, you won't know.

Oh, they gonna try to beat your ass.

They already have. They're scared of me though. Look how big I am.

You are very tall.

That's why I said when people try me, once we get in person, they don't have the same energy. Me at all. Because a lot of people think that, you know, the fancy lip gloss or, you know, the feminine look— like, I'll still beat you today, okay? I'll still beat your ass though. Like, I'm still in at the end of the day. So that's— and the trans women, they're still too. So that's what I try to kind of remind people, because I feel like what you see them trying to fight women, and I just don't like that. I have women friends, my— I have a mother, I have a grandmother, so I have women all around me. So for me, every time I see women being mistreated, it makes me feel some type of way. Like I said in the video, if my friends call me about a baby daddy, a boyfriend, I'm going to beat them up. So this isn't news to me. I'm just now on the internet with it because also, besides me being attacked, then, you know, I had to expose the Indian Ruby Rose, got into it because that was her best friend. And I want to get into that bit. She called me monkeys and You know, she don't even identify as Black, so it's so crazy.

Ruby, okay, so what happened with Ruby Rose and her best friend that happens to be an Indian DL man?

Yes.

He's married or something?

No, he was dating women and all of this, but that's who attacked me and tried to kill me.

What did he do? Allegedly, what did he do?

It ain't no allegedly. I'm talking about for me. I don't care.

Do you wanna see the receipts? Okay, I wanna see the receipts. Let me see the receipts.

Okay, let me get the receipts.

Okay, but what happened though? Tell us the story.

So essentially, it was, 2022, I had told him it had been 5 years. So we all went to college together. So I know Ruby, him, all like Playboy Cardi, like all of us was, you know, in college.

That's what you giving me right now, or is Playboy Cardi giving you?

I think he giving me, because you know, he wasn't always gay. So now that he gay, I feel like now he—

because he won't put on the outfit like yours and you will see his thong.

You will see his thong, right? I'm not doing all of that though. Like, that's, that's—

do you think Iggy Azalea turned him that way, or—

I think he was already that way.

You think he was already—

Ruby was eating.

That was just a shot at Iggy.

ass. So you know how I say eating ass? If you eating a man's ass, sometimes that's gonna— you know, she ate DDG ass too. That's why I say, Sandrew, we ain't even— basically, let me get to the story so I can tell you. So after about 5 years, I essentially was like telling Sandrew, like, okay, what are we gonna do? Are we gonna get married? Because, you know, I'm like, yeah, 5 years. So he was like, he never getting married, um, he don't want to be gay. Cool. I cut him off. This February. So March, you know how you in that mood? It's like 3 o'clock in the morning, he texting me, I'm up, come over. Because I mean, I wasn't sexually active with anybody else, so I'm just like, you know, come over. Like, he loves to eat butt, like you were gonna eat my butt, whatever. And he did. But the problem came into play is because of course he wanted to have intercourse, he couldn't get hard. So instead of him just getting up and leaving, he had to try to take his anger out on me, and I know I just touched my mic, my bad. He tried to take his anger out on me and he tried to attack me for not essentially giving him the sexual gratification that he needed. And he felt like I was gonna expose him. 'Cause this was the first time I ever had got on social media and I was building a platform, you know, just off of me, like not the DL Whisperer. So he felt like, well, you have a big platform, so you're gonna expose me. And that's why I always say DL men will come up with their own paranoia in their own head. 'Cause after 5 years, like I told him, like, I caught you recording Ruby sexually playing in her pussy. I caught you doing all this other stuff. And you— if I was going to expose you, don't you think it would have been those times? Because see, that's why me and Ruby really don't like each other. See, before I knew she was just a whore, I had saw him with videos of her playing in her pussy. But he tried to play it like, you know, because he is a videographer, and he was trying to tell me that she was just like selling these videos. But at the time, I didn't know she had OnlyFans. Now I know she got an OnlyFans, so you know, had I knew that in 2022 and in 2020, I wouldn't have felt the same way because I'm like, why do you got her pictures and stuff in your phone? But I get it, you're a videographer, but that's your best friend. I wouldn't record my best friend pussy. Like, I don't care if, you know, I just wouldn't.

Yeah, that is a bit much, right?

So then that's when I had hit up DDG, all of this, because you'll, you'll probably see that. So I had hit him up and I had custom threw me out.

So in 2022, when she was dating DDG at the time, at the time, right?

So I was trying to tell him like, oh, I pretty much saw her pussy in his phone. But of course he put her up to being a prostitute, so he didn't give a fuck. I didn't know, I didn't know any of this at that time though. So of course in 2022 when Sandra attacked me and tried to take my life, once the police came and they told me like, oh, don't expose him because, you know, he's fragile, After this bitch beat me up, tried to use knives, this bitch hit me with a candle, this bitch took my iPad, my wallet, like he done all of this shit in my apartment. And they told me not to expose him. So guess what I did? Exposed the fuck outta him. So when I exposed him, Ruby felt like because her ugly ass had a bigger platform that she was supposed to come and defend him. So her defense of him was calling me monkeys, doxxing me, getting her other friends involved, and you know, doing all of this other shit. And I went crazy. So after that, I got off the internet because I, I have received a lot of hate. I'm not even gonna lie.

Okay.

But then I realized, like, because women kept wanting me to come back and get them signs on DL, man, but I wouldn't do it. But what I realized is that me exposing the man that I slept with wasn't going to help anybody. Like, unless you're sleeping with them, unless you're Tamar Braxton and, you know, you need to know that your husband is DL, or if you're these other people that I've talked about.

How did Tamar get in this? What do you know about Well, Vince was my first sugar daddy.

You gotta listen, listen.

I need a minute. I need a minute.

You gotta listen. It's a lot that you gonna find out. That's why I gotta move out of Atlanta because everybody want my head. Because you gotta think, I wasn't always Misty, so I used to be in the fold. Back it up, back it up.

You said Vincent Herbert?

Yeah.

And I'm gonna say allegedly, allegedly, was your sugar daddy?

Yes.

How did you meet Vince?

Um, I met him at a restaurant, Gus's Fried Chicken. So I was going to Georgia State at the time, and he frequents there. He was frequent there a lot. But, um, so I would always meet him when he went there because see, Tamar would wait in the car and he would always Gus go in, and, you know, I would just kind of meet up with him, see him there, because nobody didn't really— this was—

you're talking about when Vince had money?

Yeah, when he had money. And this was like 2015, 2016, because I was just graduating high school. I know, I know, I know. But, um, nobody didn't really know him, so we would always go to Gus's because I, I don't know if you know Georgia State, but I lived at Piedmont North.

I know exactly where that is, which was just down the street.

So then we would meet up sometimes, but That's not my only sugar daddy that I've had. I had a TV show.

Sexual relations?

No, I don't fuck sugar daddies, let's be clear. I just get money and, you know, give them a fantasy. So I didn't— I never slept with him, but he wanted to help me through college. Like, you know, at this time I was—

What would you do for him? Let him see you or something?

Like, um, talk, you know, pictures, videos. Like, I'll entertain it like that, but as far as letting me, you're not gonna fuck me. But I'm not gonna tell them that.

How much money did he give you?

Not, not that much. Maybe like $5,000 over time, because this did carry on for a couple of months. But at a time, maybe like $500 at max. And you gotta think, I was young.

So would you consider Vincent a DL man?

Of course. Tamar know that though. That's why— why do you think she's doing prob? She knows that her husband is DL. She knows that that white man all also was a little, you know, that's why she's talking about the lawyer, the white— no, no, no, Jeremy, he's a lawyer. Yeah, I didn't know that.

The one she met on the, like, the dating show. Yeah, yeah, he's a lawyer.

Yeah, he's a lawyer, like a bar-certified practicing personal injury lawyer.

He one of those lawyers.

Oh, he a personal injury lawyer. Okay, that's why I didn't know.

You know, they go after insurance.

Yeah, I was about to say, yo, that's not the same as, like, what I was thinking, but What were you thinking? I mean, I thought she meant like the actual attorney. Like, to me, personal injury is like— I— that's why I'm like, I wouldn't consider that the type of law that I was thinking. But, but she knows. I mean, you know, that's why even if you see recently when I had posted me a picture of me and Vince— oh, you didn't see that?

No.

T.S. Madison had posted that interview with Tamar Braxton. That's why I was like, T.S. Madison kind of know what's up. But TS Madison need to speak to, did you fuck Vince? Because you and Tamar really close, but do Tamar know a lot about TS? I'm gonna sip my tea. That's why I said people hate me because I am— I do know a lot. I wasn't always messy. I'm messy now, which is what I hate, because you know, people now, they don't want to be around We are very grateful.

We are very grateful for this. It's a lot more than you. I know you do. You got time. I got a lot. Okay, you got time. So I did see a little bit of the back and forth between you and TS Madison. What happened there? I'm not biased in this situation. You know I don't fuck with TS, but at the same time, like, what happened?

So, you know, in the DL, Whisperer, like, women ask me questions. So a lot of women were coming to me asking, like, If my man is into trans women, if he's watching trans porn, or if he's telling me that he has any thoughts about trans women, is he gay? And of course, what am I gonna say? Yes. They're not women. So if he wants a trans woman who has a penis, he's gay. So T.S. Madison didn't like that, but he didn't say anything. But the reason why he said something to me is because I guess when he done that interview with Nene Leakes, I responded to it because again, women are asking me, T.S. Madison said those men aren't gay. So all I did was come in correct. Didn't say they definitely are, you know, just simple.

If you like and you're a man, you're gay. You're gay.

Even if it's hyperfemininity.

If you like and you're a man, you're gay.

Thank you. That's all I said. T.S.

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Somebody stole 2 hard drives from Jada's house. So now we getting into why she's even more mad. Jada would watch at the houses. She had her laptop, she would stick her hard drive in, right? Boom, and hook it up to the TV, and she could play whatever video she watching. So I'm seeing videos of her and Will and a bunch of other— some celebrities, everything. Because remember the last interview, I told you, if you don't sue me, I'm gonna let people know who you've been hitting with them dildos. And I said, if you don't sue, I'm going to sue. So I told you, being Muslim, whatever I say I'm going to do, that's what I'm going to do, period. And I gotta have evidence. So she's sitting down here watching, playing with herself, high as a kite, right? Not caring who's in the house, whether kids watching, nothing. She's in her own world. So that's how I was able to see the tapes. I saw them, and I saw some things that were unreal. And I saw celebrities on the tape.

Ooh.

I'm under penalty of perjury. If anything in here is a lie, my ass going to jail, period. There's no if, there's no ands, there's no buts. Watch this full program and other exclusive content on www.tashakalive.com.

You know what my issue is when it comes to Black women and T.S. Madison is that T.S. Madison would fuck their husband and not tell them.

Of course, that's the way.

And they support that.

Yeah, but it's starting to change though. It's starting to change.

I don't know because TS is booked and busy and it's mostly by Black women.

Oh, well, we'll see how long that lasts. Because you know, well, you don't know I'm suing him. Um, I'm hoping—

You suing?

Yeah.

You suing TS Madison? For what? What happened?

Because I want him to have a RICO charge. Like, after people have doxxed me, threatened my life, he's incited violence against me.

He doxxed you?

Yeah, he's gotten trans— other trans people to doxx me.

And he got mad when we put out a We did a gender reveal with the passport.

I'm going to sue you though, because even like Dominique—

You doing the same thing, TS, and then you get mad when I did a gender reveal. I just did a small gender reveal. Talking about, oh, you put my address out. I never put the address out. And everybody knew that address, because she used to have Queens Court over there. So I don't need to put out your address. But I wanted to point out that it said male on the passport, that he did not transition. And he is still putting on wigs. For sure. So, um, that part there, and you know, yeah, but go ahead.

But yeah, so I'm definitely gonna sue him just for the false information and because I want a RICO charge. Like, it's not really about the litigation, it's about, like, me and my lawyer have already discussed, like, I do my own— if I, I could probably be a lawyer myself. So, like, I already looked up what were— what satisfies a RICO charge. T.S. Madison has satisfied that. Multiple times. So of course I need to go after him civilly to make something criminally come up.

But what is the beef though? Is TS upset because you're exposing the men that pay him?

Essentially, because he also wanted me to come on his show and he was telling me that I have too big of a platform to say that they're still men and to say that those men are gay. He was like, basically I'm doing them a disjustice and I need to tell people that they're women. You know, trans women are women and that those men aren't gay.

I know I'm gonna get flack for this. I feel that I respect white trans people more than I respect Black trans people because you don't see the white folks exposing their clients. Yeah, I don't see that. Yeah, I mean, I don't see them beating up women beating them to the point where they want— just because we won't acknowledge you. It's like they understand their— I don't see that going on in the white trans community, but in the Black trans community, they will literally physically try to fight me into saying that they are women. And I'm like, how could I? I am not delusional. I am a woman. When I squeeze my titties to this day, I had two kids I've nursed them both till they were 3 years old. I still get milk that comes out. Yeah, that's why my titties get big during the month, you know, my menstrual cycle every month, and they go down. Yeah, my pussy bleeds every month. That is not a good feeling. You do not get to just parlay around here saying, oh, you got the good parts of what a woman is, but you don't know what being a woman really is because you're not that.

You're not that.

Yo, when you going to the doctor, they are holding your dick, telling you to cough, right?

Prostate exam. Tia Madison just turned 48, so prostate exam is on the horizon. And I agree with you, and that's why I said like I wasn't inciting hate. Like them telling people, yeah, I don't want to see anything happen to them.

I don't think they should die. Thank you.

I think they should be beaten, but let's be real that you're a man.

We're not doing that. Yeah, yeah.

But you will see that they Why hasn't somebody found him and killed him? Like, they stay trying to get me killed or inciting violence.

Because you're making it hard for them to make money?

Well—

'Cause essentially, I mean, that's how—

Is it making it hard though? Like, am I really gonna stop their money? Like, I feel like, to me, it's more about, they always bring up, well, these women support you, or like, I feel like they want women to just fall in line with them. But now that I'm like speaking up against them, like women are now becoming more vocal. And T.S. Madison doesn't like that because he typically—

they bully people because his platform is almost 90% Black women.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And he don't like women. Like, I know he gonna say, well, he got a mother.

That is very true.

He's misogynistic. Yes.

Yeah, of course. He picks and chooses what days he wants to be a nigga on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I don't like that. Be a nigga every day.

Yeah, but calls women like Just Hilarious, Gary Coleman, all types of shit.

Yeah, and people think that's okay.

But you get upset when we don't— we misgender you. But we're not misgendering you. It's your gender on your passport, because I saw it, because your team gave it to me. Said male. You did not even have a sex change. Yeah, but here's the thing, and I will give it to RuPaul, like the old teas, like, you know, the Flaming Rose, the RuPauls, they stay out of that mess. Messy stuff. They do. They are very— and I don't even think RuPaul, he don't identify as the woman.

He's drag. Yeah, he just dragged. Yeah. And that, that caused more confusion because, okay, how do— how are you doing all of this but you're telling— you're more like them but you're saying that you're still a man, but then we can't say that they're a man but they're doing the same thing as you?

Do you think he lives by the old school principles like, I can be this for a check, but I still have to operate as a man to get respect and get paid.

Correct. I think so.

Okay.

Yeah, because I, and I, I, I could see that.

But I heard he had like a wife and kids.

RuPaul?

Yeah, that was the rumors back in the days, like, oh, he just did drag but he has a wife and kids.

I think he wants to be trans. I just think that it was the time that he was in. I don't think it would have— I don't think he he knew that wasn't smart, essentially, because now we're just getting to the point where trans people are becoming visible, in my opinion. You could be a drag queen and that would be accepted, but trans is just very, to me, it's still not even accepted. We're trying to become accepting of it, but they show us every day why we shouldn't.

[Speaker:Latasha Transrina Kebebe] I think there needs to be a lot of education behind it, and there needs to be some reality set in. Us trying to blur lines.

And right, you know, it hurts the women because like I said, women shouldn't even have to— I shouldn't— I don't go up to women or even think like, oh, are you a man? But some people will. But if we didn't have people transitioning, that wouldn't even be a thing. And that's misogyny, but you get what I'm saying. Like, the trans woman will say, well, this woman looks masculine.

Or, you know, I saw a video the other day on TikTok and they were going up to the women in Thailand, and they were asking, are you a ladyboy or a lady? And the ladyboy said, I'm a ladyboy. They don't say that they're women. They say ladyboys. They tell you. They don't lie about it. They don't try to hide it. There's no deep— there's no— oh, you know exactly what it is. What you see is what you get. So, but I just think in America, we're just used to, just like we did with straight slavery, trying to erase it. And trying to erase what it is and allowing doctors to now, you know, allow people to pick exactly what they want to be.

And it's like, and that affects women and children. That's my biggest thing.

Why do you say women and children? Why do you say that?

Okay, so women, like I always say with T.S. Madison, them, I would have been supportive of them, but every time I hear them talk, it's never like— I have women friends, so I'm hearing about the hysterectomies, I'm hearing about the my friend got to keep going to the doctor lines to get a breast reduction or, you know, hormones that they can't receive because they're not gender reaffirmed. Like, so I'm seeing all of these issues and I'm like, if y'all are women too, why aren't y'all—

It's okay.

It's okay.

Hey, Jay, can we get some— You good? Let me get you.

Oh, no, you is okay. I know, but I didn't want to be—

No, no, no, you good. You good.

Let me start popping my pills.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, it's just about helping women.

Like, I see my women friends go through so much shit. Okay, like they have to work so much harder. Like, it's a lot of shit that they go through. So even just outside of the DL, man, like, I'm like, well, this is where I can help. But now when I start to see the trans issues, it's like, okay, there is more issues than just DL, man. Because, you know, a lot of people don't— might not agree, but I think trans women and DL men are the The only difference is DL men are hyper-masculine, trans women are hyper-feminine. But they're both still men that are cosplaying as things that they're not. They're both still manipulating women, taking advantage of women. And the reason why it impacts kids, because you're not gonna be born trans. They're not gonna convince you and I to be trans, but who can be convinced that maybe they're trans? Where do T.S. Madison want to put this trans stuff at? In kids' stuff. Because kids are the only— you think they can convince me as a grown adult who knows that there's two genders, even with the furry thing? Because let's get into that too. All of this is grooming the kids. Explain the furries. Okay, so furries are animals, but if you go to Atlanta, they have this furry convention every single year, and it's basically a bunch of grown white nasty people that just costumes in animal costumes. So now that kids are identifying as furries, that's why I was like, how the fuck would kids even know what a furry is?

I did stumble across a parade, Pride, one day, and I was a bit blown away at the— it was just very obscene graphic images. And my son was on the street and they had rainbow flags, they had sparkles, they had glitter, but their penises were out, and the men had on wigs. And I said, is this— is this Pride? Is this celebrating your gender or your sexuality? But I felt like it was a porn festival. I felt like it was an orgy festival.

Bestiality. Why would people identify as animals? Like, you— like, that's why I'm like, kids don't understand. Like, even when it comes to sexuality and gender, I'm like Kids don't understand, which is why they can be convinced that maybe you are trans. Like, you're a kid, you don't even know. All you know is male, female, so you're impressionable. That's even like with the whole gay thing. Like, you know, I said gay people, a lot of the times you might go through some trauma that leads you to be gay. I feel like it's the same when you're grooming kids. Like, we don't need to push sexuality on kids at all. I would never tell kids that I'm gay.

When I was a kid, we couldn't even watch people people kiss on TV. I had to close my eyes. I couldn't watch rated R movies. I couldn't watch, uh, obscene music videos. Um, none of that. They protected the children to allow us to be kids. They didn't want us, you know, all that over-hypersexualized stuff. But then they said, well, it makes it hard because when the kids are trying to be this— and it's like, a kid should be trying to figure out exactly what they want to contribute. What is their part in the world? Your character. What you do in a bedroom should not be front and center.

No, that's why I think kids shouldn't even know. Even if they know what gay is, they shouldn't, because they shouldn't know what I'm doing in the bedroom. Like, they should know that I'm a man. Yeah, I might be a little feminine, but as far as being gay, that's why I say I think it all goes into grooming. And I mean, and we kind of seeing this with the politicians. Like, I didn't want to get into— like, I don't want my platform to become that, but I'm like The biggest issue, it always comes back to kids because a lot of these DL men, a lot of these broken people, it happened— things happened to them in their childhood that led them to where they are now. So if we start protecting kids, then maybe they can grow up normal and we can focus on their character and not their sexuality and be grooming them and, you know, creating these hypersexual men. Especially because to me, it's like women aren't raised to be hypersexual, in my and women are raised to be like independent, strong, like the head of the household, like have morals, have like, you know, some self-worth. But we don't, we don't raise men like that though.

Let's go back to the sugar daddies because, you know, you dropped the bomb with that Vince Herbert.

You know, I love sugar daddies.

Yeah. So have you had any other celebrity sugar daddies or was he— was he— he was—

he was really the only celebrity one. I'm trying I think. Let me make sure, because I mean, when you say sugar daddy, that's pretty specific. Now, if you want to hear about other celebrities, like, yeah, have you been with any celebrities that I can talk about? Yeah, online.

Yeah.

Um, because see, that's what I'm saying, you know, I still live in Atlanta, so it'd be a little, it'd be a little dangerous. That's why I'm like, who can I talk about? Like, him, I'm not worried about this. That's not— but like, when we start getting to some of these other rappers because like in May my life was threatened by Freebandz Gang. You know who Freebandz is?

I've heard of him, right? Isn't he with Future's crew?

Okay, well, that Freebandz is the crew. Okay, but um, yeah, because um, I gotta make sure, like I'm trying to make sure because like people be trying to, they won't Like, people will try to— like, I, I know I'll be joking, but that's why I don't talk about certain people. Like, Future is one of those people because essentially, like, I, I know DL men that are with him every day. So I'm not saying that he's DL, but what I'm saying is that these DL men will also try to get me to sleep with their friends. Like, they never tried to get me to sleep with Future, but I feel like DL men flock together, but when I tried to like show the men, like they have pictures with him and everything, it just— I got threatened and it was a lot of shit. But, um, and you know, like other—

who else?

Athletes that I can say. That's why I'm like that, I can say, because I don't want to— like, I do be I'm trying to— because I don't be trying to hurt people. I know I, I could be a little bit messy, you know, or whatever, but I don't be trying to necessarily hurt them. But I do think that some of them should be exposed. But, you know, maybe I'll have to tell you some, some stuff on the— like, uh, you know, only because I don't want to Are they married? Maybe not married, but I feel like when I say stuff, I like to have the proof to, you know, show the people. And I feel like that it's gonna get real messy. Like, and like I said, I still live in Atlanta, so it'd just be a little bit—

Why do you still live in Atlanta?

Because I'm trying to move. I am, I'm trying to move, but I was going through a separation and, you know, some other stuff, so You know, I'm trying to rebuild myself and then, you know, and because I just became the D.O. Whisperer. I told you I wasn't always messy. Like, people used to love me.

I think they still do.

Not the niggas.

The truth hurts though.

Like, I used to be around Ghana, Hood Rich, like, you know, I used to be around the niggas. Like, I don't get to do that no more. And I'm upset.

I'm not—

don't get me wrong, I'm not upset, but I used to be around the niggas. Like, I'm pissed that I now am looked at as this messy-ass person and now people don't want me around. What you do?

Gonna dress?

Well, no, it was just basically I was friends with some plugs, you know, sell drugs, like more DL men, and they used to bring me around. Like, basically I was the— I was gay, but I would still get to be brought around. Like, DL man would still bring— like, you're gonna respect my gay friend. Like, you know, I'm— they'll play it like they just cool with gay people, and then, you know, all of the homeboys wouldn't always be gay, but the ones that would, they would know we're gay. They might try to get me to have a threesome, or, you know, it might turn into something like that, or I just might be around with— gone.

But hey, you've slept with celebrities though?

Yeah. Are you surprised? Celebrities are the most gay.

No, I'm not.

It's just that I feel like they had the most access, like, especially living in Atlanta. I used to work at the Red Phone and that's the Red Phone Booth. It's the membership-only cigar bar for, you know, and I worked at a, um, I used to internship at the, the— what is the little houses called, like, with all of the rich people? Country clubs. I used to intern at the country clubs for hospitality. So I would meet these people through, like, working at the Red Phone Booth, membership-only, like T.I., Ludacris, like like Floyd Mayweather, 50 Cent. Like, these are the type of people that will come there. The country club, of course, like, only rich people there. So that's kind of how I was getting in contact with these people. And I would be one of the only Black people in these spaces for the most part. And I'm tall.

Okay.

And like, as far as masculinity, or like, as far as like a man, this is what a lot of men want.

They want tall, attractive.

They want tall, they want dark, white teeth, like, based— real basic, like the same shit women want. Like, they want somebody tall, smart, educated, like, you know, I mean, I have my own money, so it wasn't really hard. And I think I'm, I'm easy to talk to. I think that's why I get a lot of men. Like, I'm not— I don't care about who you are, like, I can just talk to you.

Okay, okay.

Yeah, so, um, it's a lot that you You spilled, but it's not even all.

Well, what else you got? Let's go, it's your interview.

I know, I'm trying to— I was trying to let you lead it because it's, it's so much. And of course I know what I'm trying to say.

Something on your mind, right, that you want to just get off right now? Because I know you said that you're facing a lot of backlash online.

Yeah, what's something that you, um Really, you know, the backlash fucked them. So if they're listening, if they want to fight, we can do that. We don't have to. Like, yeah, I want people to really understand, like, I'm not here to be violent and aggressive. And, you know, I really was here to help women. I'm still going to continue to help women. But if you're going to pose a problem, I'm going to always handle any problem. So that's why I say, like, yeah, there's misconceptions, but people people thinking that I'm pandering or that this is for money. I don't even do this to make money. I was— I wasn't monetized on, uh, TikTok for the whole time I was on there. The little time I was— Instagram doesn't pay you except for back— like, you know, the, you know, the, the bag. So I hate when people try to act like, you know, I'm doing this for money. Like, no, I really give a fuck about women. Like, I don't have to sleep with them to give a fuck about them. Like, I have women friends. Like I said, I have mothers. So I— that's like my biggest thing.

You My favorite video that you just did was on Blueface. Oh, I don't think nobody caught that but you.

And why Hazel? Oh, okay, let me hear this.

What happened with Hazel?

Nothing, she was just, you know, saying that their relationship is real.

And no, it's not. It's not real.

You think she just told me that?

Yeah, of course. She wants people to believe it's PR. Uh, Blueface has never had a relationship with a celebrity, so they're trying to move him into a different realm. So, you know, his baby mama, Chrisean, were very at the bottom. He brought them up, so now they're trying to give him somebody equal, you know. So that is— and Hazel knows that that's— it's fake. Oh, you think it's fake? Yes.

You think she would have just lied to me? See, I'm naive. I'm naive. Yes, I'm very naive. Yes, because I believed her. I was like, I've been supporting her though.

I believe he works in PR. She's been a PR agent really for years.

You think she would trick me though?

Yes.

It ain't no—

for no reason, because it's PR and it's a check. She's getting a check.

But, but we were talking privately. You think she would just—

there's no private when it comes to her. She knows you have a platform.

I didn't post it though.

You see what I'm saying? So you could change the narrative because your video went viral. A Blueface getting out of jail, and the first thing he asked for is booty lubricant, right? She was like, I don't need— he said, you got the lube? And she was like, my what? And he was like, well, how you know I want your pussy? I want the booty. And it was like, you just got out of jail, you supposed to be craving. And I've always felt like, you know, due to him being abusive to, you know, his baby mama, both his baby mamas, Chrisean and, uh, Stewie, and just his hatred for his mother. Yeah. And, uh, and the way he treats Carlissa— and I interviewed Carlissa— and the way Carlissa neglected him, I can tell that he does not feel safe with women. Like, he, he, he entertains them, but behind the scenes, men have always been there for him. And I feel that emotionally, when he was very young and his his mom was leaving him in the house by himself with no lights, no electricity, no water, no food, and she would be gone for weeks at a time, and he's moving from house to house. I just felt like his faith in a woman and what a woman should be, even though his father was too responsible, but because she was nasty to him, and you see how Carlissa is, you know what I'm saying? I feel like he just has an underlying disdain for women.

Women. Because I kind of had this thing upbringing, and that's why I say like, I, I think I'm even better at picking out the old man because they're just secretly gay men. Like, I'm a gay man. Like, I think a lot of gay men, if they have a bad relationship with their mother, that will push them in quicker to be gay than anything. Because I can remember back to like admiring my mother the most out of anybody, but I can also remember when All of that changed and I hated her for a long time. So that's why I always say like with those men, like even in my PowerPoint, that's like the first thing that we talk about is mother trauma because if a man hates his mother or the woman figure that raised him, he's probably going to hate women more than likely because that's his example of women. And you always hear men saying—

I'm sure that was his first heartbreak 'cause I have a son and my son, he don't give a damn who in the room. I'm in the room, his whole world feels safe. If I was to break his spirit, I could tell. That's like breaking his heart. And men don't love too often. They love their mothers, definitely love their grandmothers, you know what I'm saying? And the more you love on them, like the more they want to like help and support and be there. But if women are neglecting them and putting them down, and they find love in these gangs, these other DMs, because I feel like gang members, in my opinion, are just—

they are, they deal. Their gangs are based off jail. So let's, let's get— that's why I say a lot of men, gangs are based off jail. So anytime— and jail is based off slavery. So the conversation— and a lot of people don't listen to me because they think I think every man is DL. First of all, I don't think every man is DL. I think 1/3 of men are DL. I think 1/3 of men are straight, and I think 1/3 of men are openly gay like me. But as far as the slavery in the jail, like, when we're stressed out about anything, including debt, there's so many other detriments to our lives. Our health, our family, our friends all can see it on us. And then when you become debt-free, you can start focusing on things that truly make you happy. It really is true. Happiness. I've had many individuals make up with family members after going through bankruptcy because they don't have the stress. It really changes your mindset and it allows you to have the freedom, the mental freedom, to take care of what's really important. And I certainly recommend it for everybody because, as we all know, life is too short.

We don't get enough liquid D3, we don't get enough vitamin D, and so I personally have to supplement this particular vitamin D that I travel with all the time, and I make sure that I never run out of, is, uh, 10,000 IUs, gluten-free, vegetarian, has a vitamin E and vitamin C base. Okay, and so it's very highly absorbable. There are some fantastic reviews on shoptkdeals.com of women who claim that they couldn't even, like, lift their arms, and by taking vitamin D3, which helps your body to absorb calcium, and the calcium feeds the bones. Um, they can now raise their arms, they're less pain and things like that.

As far as the slavery in the jail, like, when you look into the tactics that they use post-slavery, um, it was kind of like the same thing they're doing with slavery. Like I always tell people, jail is modernized legal slavery.

Yeah, because they do work the plantations, right?

And yeah, you know, just Overall stuff that men go through in jail, like how they're broken and some of them have to fight for their booties, some of them might be taking booty. But let's just be clear, it goes down. Even the word fish, a lot of terms came from jail. When you hear faggots, okay, not faggots, but when you hear punks using the word fish, that's the jail term. That's like a new person in jail. That's the fish. You know jail has women. The trans women, because you know you can transition in jail for free. You didn't know that, did you?

Well, I know they're putting it in the food, so that helps to keep the testosterone down and them from fighting and stuff like that. So I know they've been doing a lot of that by putting a lot of the hormones in the food. So yeah, so the jail legally transition in jail.

Yeah, they can legally— like, they, they—

taxpayers are paying for it.

Yeah. And I, I was telling people, like, they don't even realize, like, people in jail people aren't even their own person. You belong to the state. So how can you say, "I want to transition," but you can't even consent to having sex in there? I was like, if a guard or the prisoners, they're not supposed to have sex. They're not supposed to have sex with each other. The guards are not supposed to have sex with them because when you're in jail, you belong to the state or you belong to the federal government. You're not your own. You can't decide for yourself. So I was like, how could they decide to be trans? What we're seeing is that a lot of people are going to jail and they're transitioning to get moved to women's jails where it's gonna be easier. If you're a man in a women's jail, what are you gonna, what kind of problems are you gonna really run into? Let's be real. What problems are you gonna really run into? Not really many. And a lot of that is happening, which is why we're seeing these ex-cons become trans women, which is also, you know, bad for that. But, um, it's the— to me it goes—

so you feel that Blueface is, in your opinion, gay?

I think Blueface is gay. And I mean, one of the times—

not bisexual?

Well, I don't believe in bisexuality. I think that's semantics.

Interesting.

That's semantics, boo. Like, if, if I'm a man, if I'm into women, I'm straight. If I'm into others, I'm gay. Simple as that. Either you're straight or you're gay.

I feel like this clip here is going to piss a lot of people off.

People say bisexual because a lot of people are sensitive. Like, a man, if a man tell you he is into other men or something, he won't let you call him gay. But if he say bisexual, he feel a whole lot better. What's the difference? You're 50% gay and you're 50% straight. You're still gay. Like, to me, I don't think that, I don't believe in all of this pansexual, all of this demisexual. To me, that's just making people feel better. If you're not straight, you're not straight. For my process, women want heterosexual men. So if you're into any others, I don't give a fuck if you— what you identify as. I know, I'm sorry. Ah, you good. I don't give a fuck what you identify as. Like, that's not how that works. Like, you're gay. Like, if you— like we just said earlier, if you have a dick, if you have a prostate, if a man knows that you were born with a dick, he knows that you were born as the male, he's gay. And even if the trans women that get the surgery, which is only 10%, That vagina doesn't look real. Have you ever saw it?

No.

You should look it up one day. It doesn't— you know what a vagina looks like. If a man— that's why they don't want the trannies with the surgery, because it literally just looks like a hole on top of like— look it up one day. It don't look real.

So you're saying when gay men or DL men go for trans women, they're going for dick?

They're going for dick. Men are gay for dick, not ass. You have— women have ass. So they wouldn't need to be gay for ass. They're gay because dick. That's why trans women always are tops. I don't know too many trans women that are not topping these men. And when I say topping, I mean bending them over. I don't know too many that don't use their penis. That's why they're not getting it cut. Because I always say like—

So they make money off of their penis?

Yeah. Dick is valuable.

T.S. Madison made a lot of money doing porn. Calling, you know, himself the big bitch.

People like a circus though. I always tell people, like, think about how a circus operates. People go and watch a circus, so of course they'll pay for the trans stuff. And you got to think, they watch porn and they're perverted. It's always a lane for somebody. And I'm not even saying that I'm against that, like, they can do whatever they want, but just know that they're putting theirself in danger, they're putting women in danger by— because I feel like a lot of people will look to trans women to speak on women issues, or they'll think that what trans women are going through is what women are going through, and it's completely the opposite.

Who said that?

If you look online, like a lot of people, that's why I said like, it pisses me off. Like Essence, why weren't you at Essence? They had more trans women at Essence this year than anything.

Then it's a trans festival then, I don't need to be there.

But Essence was created for women. That's what I'm saying. They want to be inclusive, but to me, you don't need to be inclusive. I don't want to hear a trans woman speak about women's issues, because bitch, you're not a woman. Speak about some nigga issues. When I go ask women how they feeling, do you think I go ask trans women? No, I go ask women how they're feeling. I don't go ask no trannies, because I don't care. You're a man with a dick. I don't care how you feel. And that's just to be real. I'm not being mean. I know that sounds a little rude. I know they hate it. But they got me to this point because I want to knock them the fuck out. Like, I want to beat the fuck out of TS Madison. I want to beat the fuck out of Sherri. I want to beat the fuck out of Dominique. Bitches have doxxed me. They doxxed my family. Like, TS Madison's mama look a fucking mess. So for this bitch to sit up and talk about my mama ever, he got another thing coming. Mary can barely fucking walk. He need to get her a fucking walker or a fucking motorized scooter so she can stop being pushed around in a motherfucker. Computer chair around her kitchen cooking. Because see, I be being nice to them, but I'm not being nice anymore because at the end of the day, trans women are aggressive ass. So you know what, I gotta be an aggressive ass nigga. And I know some people don't like that, but I don't give a fuck. And I just want to say that because I know that TS Madison is going to listen to this. I know that the trannies are going to listen to this, and I need them to know, like, you don't have to keep looking for me. We all know I live in Atlanta. You see me sitting down with a person in real life, so we know I come from behind the closet. So if they need any issues, I can give them that. Because I mean, it's on site. Like, Cherry wouldn't come outside. Like, I went to his house. Like, let me— I had to like look in his background.

You chat Cherry about me one time. I remember that.

Yes, I was trying to find— that's what I'm saying.

Like, when I, I said, see, I was slapping— I said, see, let me stay out of it because this is nigga business. I said, see, I'm a lady, I'ma stay out of nigga's business, you know. I, I look, I watch, I laugh. I'll be damned if I get into it with a nigga. I submit to my men.

Yeah.

And like I told TS Madison, I will always submit to you. I would never try to fight you or anything like that because I serve God and God says to serve man and man is the head. And I will always bow down to Cherry Da Boom and T.S. Madison because they are men. I want to—

well, I'll beat them up for you.

That's what I'm saying. That's why I said I'm gonna let you handle that. But you was like, bitch, I came to your house. You out here talking about you gonna fight Tasha K twice. You went twice to Cherry?

We used to live down the street from each other when he was trying me. But, um, you know, his door got set on fire, so then he— all he did was move down the street from the house.

Does he get like, like ran down on? Because like, he exposes a lot of men, and there's some talk about the blood being hot. I don't know.

I think the blood is hot. I think he's infected. I mean, I, I call him Infected Cherries. I mean, we had a little argument. My whole thing is you ain't saw him post no So, but I mean, my whole— and, and what goes into that, I wouldn't be surprised. Like, if you're selling your dick for $50 to $100 and your rent is over $2,000, you gotta fuck a lot of people. Then you gotta eat, and you got a car that's not paid off, and you got insurance, and you got these other things. So you're gonna fuck a lot of people. That's why he used to live right next to the Hilton and the Marriott and the Ritz, because all his customers are people that are traveling in town. All he gonna do is get on JackGrindr or ListCrawlers or ForRentMen and sell that 9-inch.

So you mean to tell me out of all this publicity that, uh, Cherry the Boom got, he's still having to sell?

Clout— I was just telling one of your people, clout doesn't equal money. And I— and that's something I want people to know. You need to tell people that clout does not— I have had clout In for the beginning, I didn't make no money.

I don't have clout.

You do have clout.

No, I don't. The content has clout.

Okay, you have— everybody— that's what I'm saying. Like, people might not even know your content, but they know you. That's clout. That's clout. Cherry doesn't have clout. TS Madison doesn't have clout. Their content isn't even being watched. That's why I say, like, they're always upset with me, like, you have too big of a platform. Like, well, bitch, I'm just being myself. I don't— I, for the longest, I didn't even keep up with the numbers or, you know, the analytics or any of that because I just truly wanted to help women avoid DL men. That's it. Like, it wasn't about popularity. It wasn't about, you know, being liked or any of that. I feel like they care about that type of stuff though because social media is their whole life. I have 2 degrees.

And what?

I have a BA and I have an MBA. Oh, yeah.

Okay.

So, you know, I— and I worked for Emory for almost 10 years. And I work for Georgia State and I work for the government and I've sued a couple of people and companies. So that's why I be trying to tell them, like, I don't have to do everything for money. I can, I can do anything that I want because that's what I want to do. Like, they have to do all of this stuff for money.

And so you could be taken care of without having to go from hotel to hotel to hotel.

I don't do hotels.

Porn.

Yeah. My home is paid for. And, you know, I mean, I'm not knocking them though. That's what— and that's what I want them to realize. Like, I don't hate you. I don't hate anybody.

But let's be real, thank you though, because you know, that's what happened. I was hosting a Now That's TV, uh, reunion one time.

I saw that.

Yes, I had no idea what I was walking into because I had watched the season and I had questions for them, but I wasn't coming on some rah-rah. What happened was, I don't know if they told the full story on the episode, was a trans woman was beating out of a woman. I'm sorry, trans person was beating the fuck out of a woman. And I said, yo, what the fuck is this? I'm looking at security and standing back. They scared.

I'm surprised they let that happen.

And then they was just like, well, she was talking shit. I said, but you're a man, right? You know that you can beat this woman. Was she fighting back? No, you're a man. You're a man. So that's when kids, it was like, who's a man? I said, men are men, women are women. Well, what'd that mean? It meant what it meant. Men are men, women are women. And I'll never forget, like, oh, my mama will eat you, bitch. I'm a— I got kids. And I'm like, where they came out, your asshole?

Right?

Because you put a dick in somebody to have kids, right? You didn't give birth to kids. That doesn't make you a woman because you got two kids.

Like, but you see why I say it hurts the women the most.

That's what I'm saying. And then when they tried to fight me, my husband, that man right there, when I tell you, had Kenzie on the ground, foot on the back, with the wig. And I didn't— my makeup didn't get messed up. My hair— yeah, I was sitting. I said— they was like, Tasha, get off the side. I said, escort me off the stage like the lady that I am, right? Because a true woman, I'm not gonna fight no man. I would never even I never put my hands on a man, but they was trying everything in me because of their hatred for women.

And it's sad though, because they want to be women. So how can you—

So you're trying to out me out of the picture, beat me up, fuck me because I have something that you want. You want this position. Like, I don't have to wake up and say that I'm a woman. Right. I am a woman.

You don't have to announce that every time. I don't have to announce it.

No, I'm sorry.

Thank you, God. And it's not like you even recognize—

But even if I was a man, I would and I was born that way, I wouldn't have to say I'm a man. I'm a man whether you're gay or not. You're still a man, bro. Like, you understand what I'm saying? And I tell people that all the time. Forget your sexuality at the end of the day.

Thank you. Because people do that to me. They're like, you're feminine.

Like, you're not a woman though.

Exactly.

You're a man.

You see me in person.

Like, my husband said it best. He was like— I had said something about, uh, stud women, and I was like trying to be masculine. He said, Tasha, women can't be masculine. And I said, what do you mean? He said, because women are women.

Women are women. Yeah, I don't think they can—

you can act masculine, but you're not mad. You, you're not that. You're feminine. So you can try to be what you want, but at the end of the day, you are feminine. And I, I was like, wow, like, I, I really didn't see it that way. But when And they saw that I didn't have to lift a finger. And there was, I mean, the cast was fighting for me. They called in other trans people to fight for me because they was really trying to get to me because I was like, I would never, ever acknowledge you as a woman.

And I don't blame you.

I'm not hating you. I don't wish death on you.

I'm not saying that's not even hate. That's just the reality.

I don't want to see nothing. You are a human being first. I don't want to see nothing happen to you. I don't feel like y'all should be hurt, right? Nothing. I, I get disgusted when I see men them or try to hurt them.

You're in Florida, I'm sure you saw. Yes, girl Lala got by that, her boyfriend.

Exactly, you see what I'm saying? Like, I just saw that, and rest in peace to Lala, and my condolences to the family. That is wrong. Like, for real, that is so fucking—

nobody deserves—

nobody deserves that.

And that's what I'll be trying to get get them to realize, like, but I feel that, that lie is what's hurting them. Thank you.

Like, we're not doing this.

Thank you.

Men are not doing this to you. But like, the more you lie and the more you participate in the delusion and the more you help these men to lie, thank you, makes it dangerous for you. That has nothing to do with me as a woman. You don't need a law. All you need is the truth. And I swear to God, if you walk around owning your truth, right, I'm a ladyboy, right, I guarantee you, I see trans women that make it into their 90s to 100. They don't have no issues. But when you want to force us to believe the delusion and acknowledge you as such, and then when the man comes, oh no, no, no, but hey, I have nothing to do with that, you should have been truthful from the beginning. No, because if you lie about that, you're about anything.

I agree. And I'm glad that you said that though, because see, a lot of them don't realize like feeding into that delusion is what's putting them in danger. Like, because they're like, well, I'm being myself, like he knew what I was. But okay, you knew that he also didn't even acknowledge what you really were.

Like, and you gotta stand on that shit. Like, if you're trying to force us as women to accept you, why don't you force these that's paying you? And I said that to TS Madison. I said, let me tell you something. I said, let me tell you something.

Right.

I said, before you come at me trying to get me to acknowledge you, why don't you— all the niggas that done paid you to be quiet. Because I'll never forget when, um, Masin Elgin came out and exposed Dwight Howard, and this was his second time exposing like an athlete. And T.S. Madison took to be like, would you shut the fuck up because you're being paid to shut the So my thing is, like, you want me to be loud and proud for you, but you don't have that same energy for the niggas that are paying you to keep quiet, right? You give them grace.

Thank you.

Why they get grace? But why do I have to be beaten and canceled and, and not booked and busy because I don't acknowledge you for who you are? But if they pay you, you'll gladly carry their secret. And that's how she got that house, by DMing a man. But go ahead.

That's how I operate though. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you really just pay attention, like, trans women have been socialized as men because they are men. Like, for them to truly— for me to respect it, they would have to go through what women go through in life. They don't, they don't, they don't, they don't even try to understand though. That's why I'm like, if you hear them talk, you'll know they don't have no women friends because all they talk about is and body surgeries, cosmetic surgery.

Well, I know T.S. ain't talking about nobody body surgery because that one, I'm like, if you're so rich rich. Why haven't you gotten your body redone?

Oh, he— you couldn't tell TS that his body is not T. He's talking— TS think his body— he was talking about my body.

That's why I'm like, the dresses— he only can wear dresses because there's no pants to fit over and smooth out the lumps. Like, he can't wear tights.

Oh, see, I didn't—

you understand what I'm saying?

I don't watch trainees. I only saw TS.

I saw it and I was just like, oh my God, like is terrible. And my thing is, like, you brag about how rich you are. RuPaul looks amazing.

You think TS Madison rich?

Flamer Ro— I'm just, I'm just saying, she's— he says that he rich. From Flamer Ro's body is tea, is wine. Like, Flamer Robin, like, who did your surgery? Like, who did— you know what I'm saying? But TS, TS body looks rotted. Like, it's in the muscles.

Cuz he don't got no money.

And no, No, because I'm— and I think he's—

he might take the $800,000 that he got from the government to do a little something.

But you're talking about the PPP loan?

Uh-uh, I'm talking about, um, so you know that starter house? He got a grant from the government for HIV/AIDS, $800,000. That's why I was like, the RICO is gonna hit because that money laundering and moving money— like, nonprofits are public. That's why I say he— when he realizes that he fought with the wrong one, because I'm not stupid. He thought I was gonna be like these trannies and these punks that sell their bodies. And now he learned. Now that's why every time you see him, he's like, well, let me stop talking about him. It's too late. I want him in jail. I want him in prison. And I want him to lose some weight so if we do fight, it could be at least a little fair fight. Because when he tried to fight me and we was trying to link up, once he realized what was going on, he didn't want to link up no more. Him, Chi Chi, need none of them. That's why I'm like, I don't— I'm not worried about them. But if you're gonna fight somebody, fight me. Don't go fight women. Don't go fight Tasha K. They don't fight Quan.

They would never fight me. They would never even get to me. I had men.

And Cherry was like, oh, I don't want to actually fight you. I just wanted to do this on the internet. And I was like, bro, see, this is the thing. I don't do shit for the internet. So when people— that's why I was like, when people be coming back like Oh, I don't actually have a problem with you. It's too late. Why did you fake have a problem?

For clout.

And see, I hate that.

And you still running in secretly in Marriotts.

Exactly, in Hiltons.

That's gotta be very, very sad.

It is, that you let a stereotype—

Nobody will walk into an Applebee's with you and have a date.

Nope. I feel bad for them. I might cry.

Here you go.

I mean, only because, you know, I love people. I want them to do better as trans women because honestly, here's the thing, like, I don't— I want to protect women, so it's hard for me because some of them you can't tell that they trans. So how the fuck am I supposed to decide which women to protect if I don't even know? You get what I'm saying? That's why if we don't stop at all How do I know?

And I tell women, that's what I get, you know, cosmetic surgery and having cosmetic surgery. But I tell the women, like, you gotta understand, like, the trans women think that y'all are in competition with them when y'all go get these surgeries, y'all go get these lashes, these wigs, these wigs. That's they shit. We never needed wigs and lashes. And when I— when a real— when you see a heterosexual man he don't need all that aesthetic. He want clean, right? Well, you understand, like, you don't— that's why you, you ever hear that keeping that bitch over there barefoot and pregnant, right? She ain't never dressed up, but that hoe stay pregnant, you understand?

And that's where they fuck up, because trans women put out this hyper-feminine, like, appearance of what women— it's like, essentially, it's It's men turning into what they think a woman should be. Because you don't have to have a face feminization. You don't need a nose job. You don't need— you don't have to even get a boob job. You don't have to do— because you were born a woman. So you wake up, and that's what I be trying to get the trans women to realize. Like, whether you put on a wig, whether you put on makeup, whether you put on a bra, yeah, you're still a woman.

I got—

they're not a woman. That's why I'm like, I gotta put in that self-lubricates on its own. Don't tell them that. I don't Don't tell them that.

My titties, like, they are—

And I don't even be trying to compare them to women because I feel like we should be pushing for women to be in better positions and in better places because as trans women, they have male privilege. People listen to TS Madison, sadly.

Because he's a man.

He's a man. Thank you, Latasha.

That's why men run the government.

Men run this.

So it's like an extra privilege that you have.

Thank you. So they can make shit change.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If they truly felt like they were women, they really thought they were gonna get rid of women and like impregnate eggs.

Thank you. Which you see, they still trying to— even in the scientific world, like, they're trying to do away with the word women, like woman. Like, they're trying to like— because it's a construct or whatever.

Because women, like, when you really think about the history of a woman, they made it to where men are now running it, but women always ran the world. They've always been in high political positions. They've always— that's why there weren't like wars didn't start until men took over. And we still see as women, like, we fight, we cat, but we can sit down and have a conversation. We ain't gonna blow up no women's children. But there are men that are sitting in very high positions that don't mind dropping bombs on cities where women and children are, right? Because they lack that, that nature-nurture from their own mother. And that to me is a sign of hatred. And that's why I know that there's a lot of LGBT like not just LGBTQ, but just a lot of just men and DL men specifically that are sitting in very high political places. Because it's like, how could you make the decision to blow up a city knowing that there's women and children there and fund scientific research that you feel that can help to advance more people like you so that you can have, you know, your cakes and eat it too?

And that's because As a woman, you hold the ultimate power. You have a womb. Men, yeah, it takes a man to create a child, but men aren't bringing, like imagine being able to bring a whole nother person into this world.

They don't have that type of power.

They don't have that type of power.

And they're mad that they don't.

It's the jealousy thing. That's why I'm like, instead of appreciating that and understanding it, it's like they want to take control of it. And even when we talk about patriarchy, Black women are the only women that haven't been conquered by men. Because when you think about it, Black men were broken so bad because— and then they assumed that Black women were gonna fall because they don't have a man. Because these other women, if they— the other groups, if they don't have a man, what happens? They typically can't sustain. Black women had to keep going. My mother raised 5 children by herself. My great-grandmother raised generations of children by herself. Like, you know, so I'm just like, Black women are strong and they hate that. Society hates that because they're not— they don't want you to be strong as a woman. They don't want you to be aware. They want you to be broken. They want you to be falling into all of these stereotypes. And I don't think Black women do it.

So what's your story? Like, when did you know that you were gay?

Um, so it's kind of loaded. I was molested by my older brother.

I'm sorry.

No, it's okay. So I always tell people, I don't know if I would have been gay, because I was kind of like feminine. And I think about my mother, like, having so many different men in the household. Yeah. And not like a consistent one. I thought that that's what I was supposed to do. Like, I'm seeing my mother date men, so it's not really registering to me like, this is something women do, this is something men do, because my mother wasn't really, you know, focused on letting me know gender roles. I'm just with her. Like, so I told you, like, she was the person I know for— I can remember there were these times times where she couldn't go nowhere without me. But then, um, you know, she, she went through some stuff where she was molested too as a child, so she ended up turning to drugs. Then I can remember like her going to jail.

I am—

I can remember her going to jail, and it's months later, like I haven't heard nothing from my mom in months, and then all of a sudden they're like, well, she been in jail. And after continuously going through that, I feel like it made me hate her because it's like, you clearly don't give a fuck about me. You keep going to jail.

So you're— when your brother— and I hate to bring this up.

No, you're good. I mean, you're good. I went through counseling.

So you obviously have a connection with your brother because he's your brother. And then did you register that he was molesting you at the time?

Because I was like 10, 11. And he's 7 years older, so he was graduating high school while I was in elementary school. So I didn't know. And that's why I always say, like, I didn't know what was wrong.

So you and your brother were actively having— Yeah. Mm-hmm.

I didn't know what was wrong until—

Yeah, you're 10.

Yeah, I was about to say, but some people knew it was going on, but they didn't stop it. But I guess because it's kind of like, I don't know if I would have truly been gay but I think that that played a part. Like, I really do. But, um, you know, I didn't talk about this. I was 21, so that kind of plays the part into—

Where's your brother now?

He's still around. He's been in and out of prison, of course. Um, crazy. You know how that go. Like, of course, of course he would be crazy though. I mean, he was molesting, you know, people. But most people don't look at like incest molests— like, most people don't think that their kids could be touching each other. And my mom was in jail. So, you know, it's kind of like, to me, I think why I resented her is because it's like, you kind of let this happen because why are you in jail? Like, and at the time I didn't understand, like, okay, you went through your own trauma. So this is why you're now stealing and, you know, doing things that are going to land you in jail. And I just kind of hated her for a minute. But once I became an adult, I realized like, okay, you're like this even though it's not an excuse, but you didn't heal from your trauma.

Have you ever been with a woman?

Um, I tried to be with a woman, but this was like, I was in 5th grade. That doesn't count. Okay, so no, I haven't been with a woman.

So if you feel like I wouldn't have been gay, because there are women out here that are, that just love men.

Yeah.

You know, I remember having a conversation when I was in the restaurant industry years ago and how much women enjoy watching gay porn, um, because they just like men the same way women— men enjoy watching women and women be together. Like, you can't help that you like women. So, um, there are women out here that are very accepting of men who are just, you know, it doesn't matter if you're gay or not. Have you thought about trying?

Well, I'll tell you about my experience. So in this, this all happened, I was in 4th grade, so I had a MySpace This is 2008, 2007. I shouldn't have been on MySpace, but you know how they used to have the little games on the side where you like shoot the duck and you win the iPhone? Yeah. It took me to a porn site. You know how the pop-ups will take you to porn? And the first vagina I ever saw, it was so stretched out. Oh my God, I can still remember it to this day. It was— the lips were so stretched and it was just like, it turned me completely off. I'm not gonna lie. But I shouldn't have been looking at porn in 4th grade, 5th grade. I couldn't understand the body. But from that moment, it was just like, no. And then I saw a white woman, and this is what pissed me off now that I'm older, because I saw a white woman and it looked nothing like that. So when I was interested in vagina or had like an interest of it, it was only white women. Because the one that I originally saw, like the Black one, that's why I was like, the media done that on me. On purpose, of course. This is 2008, 2009. It's not a lot of Black people that they're going to showcase in porn. So they showed me something.

They don't get budgets. They don't get—

Right. So, you know, I'm not knowing that as a kid that, okay, it's mostly white people because they want you to think that white— you know how white supremacy works. So when I saw that Black woman, it was stretched out. I assumed all women, Black women had stretched out vaginas. I didn't know that until I got older that they didn't. So for that, all of that time from 5th grade up, I'm just like, ew, because you know how they say roast beef? When I say it was so stretched, like the lips were so stretched, like it was crazy. And it just was—

they have surgeries for that now, right?

I was like saying, now you can get them curved. But at the time, again, in 4th grade— and that's why people also have to monitor their kids. I should have never been on MySpace.

Yeah, that's very true.

So I'm like, I don't know if I would have been gay because It's like, if I wouldn't have saw that, would I have been, you know, completely turned off? Because I like women, like I dated women, you know. So that's why I'm like, between my brother and the porn, I just can't.

You feel like you didn't have a fair shot?

I didn't have a fair shot, right?

Because like, once you're— once you go there, it's like there's no coming back, right?

And that's what I was about to say, and I didn't know that even doing stuff with my brother was wrong.

Are you familiar with King Daily? Yeah, he ended up trying, uh, vagina and went live about it.

Did he like it?

He said it was the best thing. He said, and they don't need no lubricant.

See, I'm scared.

It's a muscle. It squeezes you when you want it to squeeze.

I'm scared. What if I like it?

You gonna go your whole life—

I can't stop being gay now. I don't be gay.

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I can't stop being gay now. I don't be gay.

You don't be— you gonna go your whole life and not taste?

But I've been gay, like, I couldn't go— I can't imagine my life not gay now. Like, you know, the thing is, you like holes, you like penetrating holes, right? I've never—

you've never penetrated anybody? And you didn't like it?

I actually did, but I don't think for the right reasons. Like, I was being really aggressive and rough, so I don't think that's the way— because of course it was based off porn. Porn is mostly violence against anything feminine. So at that time, you know, um, so that's why I'm like, with women, I don't— I wouldn't be able to— my version of what I think of sex isn't something that I think is a good representation of what women would want. Because again, my, my version of sex is based off porn. Porn is really a lot of violence for most men though, sadly though.

And that's why a lot of women— and I tell them to give men time— if they grow up watching porn and then you're having sex with them and you're not having an orgasm, right, like a lot of them do become gay by default because a woman typically, they say, can understand another woman. Okay, that's cool. But like, for men, women have to actively teach men how to, to do it.

I agree.

You have to, because they just get in and it's— this is what it is.

Like, porn. A lot of men don't know that those are like drugs.

Take your time. And we are teachers, we are nurturers.

Nurture that man and teach him And once you teach him, um, what were you— were talking— but you were saying that, um, about the abuse and how men—

yeah, like, I just feel like women need to give— they need to start teaching men. And that a lot of them don't have the patience to do it, and so they end up going to, you know, studs. Yeah, to do it.

And it's like, but I don't ever hear too much— like, my friends that get fucked by studs, They always say the studs can't really put it down like a man, or, you know, the thrust that comes with a man as opposed to plastic.

I'll never forget the first time I tried like a, just a dildo in general. I was like, what the fuck is this? It has no motion, it has no, no veins, no blood flowing.

Like, you can tell it's fake.

You can tell. Like, no, thank you.

That's why I always say when women are putting dildos up their man's ass, he don't want the real thing. Like, A dildo, listen, you can— it doesn't feel the same. It doesn't feel the same.

Okay, so I interviewed Chris Blake, a stylist.

I love Chris.

You shout out to Chris, okay.

I like him.

I'm very upset with my team because Chris did reach out to us last week to say that Stefon Diggs did in fact file a lawsuit in circuit court. Not federal.

Oh, he went to circuit court.

Ooh.

And somebody put him up to it.

Of course.

Um, and so, of course, um, Miss Prep, let me just, you know, what you're doing there.

But here's the thing, um, so Chris had been going viral for about, I want to say, 2 years because, you know, his story has been the same that, you know, he was styling for Stephon, and there was a night that happened. He's not alleging that Stephon did this all the time. He's saying there's a night that this happened to me, and he claims that he wasn't going to say anything until he feels that Stephon Diggs, according to him, sent his brothers and his people to come and beat him up and rob him, which we did see that video.

Even if that wasn't his brother brother. Somebody robbed him.

It was his brother.

So, and I was about to say it was his brother though. That's why I'm like, even if it wasn't, but we know it was.

And so, but he said, I would have never outed him. I just felt like maybe he was high, he just had a moment. But now, like, you playing with me, you playing with my life, so now I'm going to expose you.

Which I'm glad that he did.

Why you say that?

Because I went through a lot with football players, like the Kansas City Chiefs, then just other people. I feel like athletes have put me, 'cause I used to only date athletes, by the way. You don't know that, but. So I went through a lot with athletes, and to me, people always act like I was so delusional. Because of course, in college, I dealt with athletes. Some of those athletes have went on to be professional. But I always challenge people, like, why the fuck do you think that all of these women athletes are gay, but no males are gay? So when that happened, it just kind of gave me the floor to be like, shots fired, let's get into it now, you know? Because I also know that a lot of people look up to these athletes. That's why I said I believed everything Chris said because he kept the same story in it.

Yeah. And he— I mean, when I took the interview, of course the story was already kind of out there, and, um, he came with a packet of receipts, text messages, and I, I still have it. So When I saw that, and I was very upset with my team because Chris had reached out to them last week to say that, you know, even though he hadn't been served, he knew that there was a lawsuit filed. And for TMZ to cover a story that they've never covered, right? They've never covered the story from the beginning. So why are you covering it now? Because there's an incentive to ensure that, oh, he's hitting back at the allegations of him allegedly sexually assaulting.

Because why he didn't hit back when it came out in October of last year.

It's infringing on someone else's brand.

Thank you. Because the inner— to me, the NFL, which is kind of— this is why it's so confusing to me, because I do think the NFL set this up, because I think they've done the same thing with Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift. But I think they already knew he was gay, because even if you listen to some of them players, like the way that they talk about him and the things that they say, I think they knew he was gay, but I think that they needed him to have an image to distract us from the fact that he's really gay. Now he got 4 baby mamas. Like, who's focused on the fact that he's gay? Nobody, because it's all of this other shit. But before all of that other shit, it was pretty obvious that he was gay. Like, he would— why he just now calling Chris the liar? Chris been saying the same shit since October 2024. So why now? Why do you now have 4 baby 3 mothers in the same year. Why do you now— like, that's why I was like, to me, I know how the old man work. They're gonna always try to cover things up. Like, I don't think—

so does he feel like this is a money grab? Like, he's just basically trying to use his money to overpower Chris because Chris doesn't have that kind of money. And then he filed it in circuit court, so I don't even take that serious.

Yo, I don't either.

It's like, why not go to federal court? How do you feel about hypersexual men? Do you feel like—

okay, like You can't be— if you're hypersexual, how is a woman— and that's why I always say a woman isn't going to satisfy them most of the time, these hypersexual men. If a man is stuck with over, like, because I'll say 100, that's a low number. If a man is sleeping with all of these women and not building any emotional connections, nothing serious, he's not into women emotionally at least. He might like you sexually, he might just be into women sexually, but I wouldn't ever think that he's he's gonna be serious with them. Because a man that truly likes women, like I always say, the simps, like, they're not gonna be in all of these commitments with all of these different women. Like, they're not gonna— Stephon Diggs has 4 kids that are going to be 1 at the same time. Like, 4, 4, that's not normal. Like, and it's like he wasn't already doing that, so now all of a sudden you have rumors about you being gay. And of course, you know, the NFL, you can't be gay. You can't be gay.

It gets in the way of the masculinity.

It gets— thank you. And men mostly support the sport, so they don't— they're not gonna push gay figures in that sport. And I feel like they clearly need him.

He's really trying to break into fashion, really, really.

But do you think he— I don't think he'll leave football. I don't think fashion ever pay him that much. What you think?

No, I don't think it—

I don't think— I think football is like what a bread and butter is going to get. Yeah, that's the biggest he's gonna get. But I think the problem is, even the NFL, they had a gay flag this year, but they're not that far along. Like, I know plenty of coaches and men in the NFL that aren't open.

Yeah, I just felt like, what took him so long? Like, yo, Chris Blake has been saying this, and I would—

but I think he hates him. Like, I hate that he trying to act like he not gay, because it would have been better if he would have admitted it, because the whole way that Stefan approached him, like, he liked the way you dressed. Because let's be clear, Chris made it clear that he technically wasn't trying to be his stylist, he was trying to be his friend. Like, he didn't want to style him. He would help him dress, but it was a friendship.

Yeah, like, he called them all gay. He was like, they all—

thank you— they're all gay. I— even the boxer. Why the fuck he— even him? Like, you was the lying all of these, and you want us to believe that all these other are gay except you? And you know that they're gay because you saw stuff, or you know stuff was going on, so you were complicit in it. You're just as gay. You're just as gay.

I do know Chris Blake did say he was going to, uh, try to move it to federal court. Yeah, cuz I feel like circuit court, it's not as, as public, and they— right, it's like they stall it in circuit State court does not move as fast as a federal court. Federal court, you have to be on point. But state court, he can delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, and there'll never be discovery. And then all it is is just like, oh, he sued the man, and nothing ever comes of it. You know what I'm saying?

Crazy though that they're doing all of this, because I mean, it's like the DL shit is crazy this year. It really is. Like, the fact that he got exposed and thought like, let me sue him even though I completely believe Chris, like, I think that this lawsuit is baseless. I think that he done that because he know that most people are ignorant, and when they hear, oh, well, he's suing him for defamation, that, oh, it must be false, like, because he would have never sued him. People sue people all the time, like, legal. What people don't realize about legal is like, it's all about in that moment who can prove what.

Like, Chris went to the police and put it in the police police report.

Why would he do that?

This is why they're coming after me. This is what happened.

Did you believe him? Because you sat down.

I believed Chris. Chris was way too detailed.

He was detailed. I believe him. That's why I was like, this lawsuit— of course a lot of people are going to say like, well, he wouldn't be suing him if he knew it.

Don't nobody give a damn about no goddamn lawsuit. When it comes to celebrities, it's about whose legal team is better, who knows how to manipulate the legal system better. And if you're not in that realm, you're automatically going to lose and the narrative is going to go their way. But deep down inside, people know that motherfuckers sue because shit be true.

And I'm glad that you say that. That's why I like you.

Man, I get it all the time, bro.

You don't sugarcoat it.

And when I started emailing, I was just like, if Stephon come up over here talking about suing, the packet is right here. This is not a malicious campaign against you, brother. I could care less whether you're gay or straight. You're not married to anybody. You don't have a commitment. And if you are gay, you should be able to come out and say that I'm gay proudly.

Okay, and people lie. Like, he could easily— like, because people always think I should get sued because, you know, I'm always speculating. But like, I always challenge people because they know nothing about legal. He would have to— if I say somebody's gay, which is something that when you met me Did you assume that I was gay?

I knew you were gay.

Well, I'm just saying, but you would assume because that's something that we're gonna innately do. Like, when you meet people with certain characteristics, certain things. Yeah, but as far as sexuality goes, like, I always just challenge people. I'm not discriminated against people. I don't hold the power to say, well, you're gay, so I'm not gonna hire you, I'm not gonna book you. So when bitches want people to get sued, they're gonna have to go against the bitches that discriminated against them because I don't give a I don't give a fuck about you. I'm not stopping your bag.

Anybody else you want to call out?

Justice.

Hey, hey, hey, Justice. I stand with Chris Blake. I do. You know, I feel like he's being bullied because of a 14-year-old.

Like, that's why I'm like, that would be alleged. But to me, if there's smoke with gay rumors, there's usually fire. I've never heard a gay rumor or gay stuff about a straight man. It's always about niggas that there's usually something there. Because why— people don't just wake up and think that you're gay.

I never really thought about it when it came to Stephon. I just— it was the hypersexuality, the hypersexual activities that gave it away.

Even though his— did you see the pictures with him and Chris? They look like a couple.

I saw the, um—

and I guess because I used to be coupled up with—

I think because last week they were like— people were putting a sex tape of him like in our DMs. And I was like, why is this sex tape out all of a sudden? And so I guess they thought I was gonna post it so they could legally like get me into it. I was like, y'all, that is illegal to disseminate that type of content. And it's like they were doing that to prove his masculinity. But when I saw the video, I was just like, I think that he—

because the dick wasn't worth posting.

Did you see it?

Yeah, that's what I was about to say. I saw it.

They got mad at me. I was like, my whole— I got— you see how little my hand is? I was like, my whole hand can just cuff it.

So yeah, I did definitely see it because I mean, I thought it was going to be way more than what it turned out to be. But I mean, that's her dick. That's not for me. Like, I don't want the dick. It's clearly dirty.

Anything else you want to add before we wrap this up? Because we don't want you to miss your flight.

Um, I mean, did we get on everything? I don't feel like we could ever even talk about everything.

No, we can definitely—

you need—

no, I think we covered a lot.

Did we cover everything though?

There's no way that we could cover—

let me think of some DL niggas that I didn't talk about, just to say their name.

Are you allowed? Okay, just run down the list of DL real quick.

Okay, Safari. Okay, Vincent. Okay, and you talk about celebrities, right? You probably wouldn't know those coaches from the Chiefs, so I wouldn't say them. But let's put the Chiefs in there. Okay, because they want us— they want some championships, but it's the coaches of the Chiefs. Okay, um, let's put Tyler Perry on there. Okay, let's put Lil Keed, let's put Gunna, let's put Hoodrich, let's put Future. Um, who else do we need to put? I think that might be enough of Atlanta.

Where can they find you and follow you?

Um, you can find me at DL Whisperer on every single platform. Now, as far as that tea, that's something me and you will talk about. I don't really talk about it. I usually just try to give out the signs of who's DL, because of course, if you're not Future, you're not Vincent, you're not Safaree, you're not these people, it doesn't really— it's not gonna matter to you.

Yeah, but we regular women, we marry regular men, so we need to know, right? And you're gonna keep us updated?

Of course.

Okay, cool.

Of course.

DL Whisperer, I enjoyed every bit of this. This is my type of content. Now we got to get you an Uber, get to the airport, because you do got to catch a flight. So listen, because I feel like I wish we could talk more. I know, we will, we will. I got you. Thank you.

Thank you.

So now we got— now I gotta go for now.

Yes, I gotta go for now, but I do appreciate this experience, this opportunity. I do thank you. I, I appreciate everything that you're doing. I see you. Um, I know a lot of people don't give you credit. Trust me, they're, they're jealous. Like, we see you. I— and even you're unbiased as fuck. That's why I'm like, I like everything that you do because you're not— you can tell that it's not malicious. And I know a lot of people, you know, come at you or whatever.

Oh yeah, we don't.

And like, I always ask them, do you know her personally? Because I've met you now. They can't say that. Yes, they don't know you. That's why I always say, like, if you don't know a person personally, you can't really— because I met you and it was nothing but kind of—

they're there, the ticket sales are there, the product sales are there. We're good.

Yeah. And I'm not— your vibes are great and I appreciate it.

You look great.

Oh, thank you.

Always a vibe. It's a vibe. It's the vibe, it's the vibe. Doggy.