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Okay, that's a good idea. Okay, cool. We had an issue with the last interview. Yeah. All righty. So, man, I'm so excited about this interview. I wore green since you're like vegan and you come from the most famous, like, vegan holistic family.

I don't like to use that title vegan, you know, plant-based, alkaline.

Alkaline.

Yes.

Well, I mean, you guys are like really famous. Like, your name is like That's why I was like, I gotta be within the brand, you know what I'm saying? I got to, you know, represent or whatever. So we can have Victor Bowen in a damn wine cellar with no wine, just water only. Okay, you told me I drink too much wine, so I'm not drinking no wine. He told me I drink too much wine over the phone the other day when I asked you to bring me a bunch of products. 'Cause I needed some, I was having issues with bloating. They think I'm pregnant out here, Victor, okay? And it's partly because of my wine. 'Cause wine is highly acidic, right? Yes.

You can use the Cáscara Sagrada over there.

Say that one more time.

Cáscara Sagrada.

I don't.

Secrets bar, you know?

Okay, so what's this? Hold on, 'cause you brought me this.

That's called, it's still in there. It's very good for your nail and skin, you know, for your hair, you know.

So it's a tea?

Yeah, it's a tea.

Okay, all right, and what's this?

This one is called Damiana. It's very good for fibroid, you know, infertility, you know, PCOS. A lot of ladies dealing with PCOS, that's good. Good for the men, for prostate cancer. Okay.

All right, cool. And so this is the— okay, burdock root. And what does this do from your side?

That's good for iron. It's very good for calcium. It's very good for the skin, eczema, acne, anything have to do with the skin.

Okay, I'm going to take that because my team seems to think that I have an iron problem because I'm cold all the time. But I said, no, it just be really cold in here.

Every Black person in America dealing with low iron.

Okay, so it doesn't matter how healthy who you are, we needed a supplement anyway.

Okay, iron fluoride, you know, that's not the iron you go to the doctor, you take one pill, later you have a constipation.

Okay, so then you brought me— okay, this is your daddy's favorite, he lived by this stuff, stand by this stuff, 10 toes down, sea moss.

That's called sea moss. Yeah, that's coming from Honduras. That's the same sea moss Lisa Lopez used to drink, you know, in the village.

Okay, and so do you boil this here?

Yeah, you boil, you know, some people leave it soaking, but the way my father used to do just like boil for like 5 or 10 minutes. Okay, later you with the same water you boil, you blend it, you know, and it creates like that gel. Yes.

Okay, all right. And so listen, I'm sorry y'all, I got my bag full of goodies because I sure did call him 3 times. I was like, I got this going on, that going on. He was like, I got you, I got you. Okay, so the Botana oil shampoo and conditioner.

Yes.

So herbal infused.

A lot of people love it.

Okay, so I'm gonna use that for my hair. Thank you so much for that. Look, I'm going through all of this. So Green Food Plus, chlorophyll-rich, what is this?

That's helped a lot of people. And we know, I got the store in New Jersey, you know, a lot of people coming with diabetes, diabetes 1 and 2. Please take that product, and less than 2 months, no longer have diabetes. We have paperwork, everything, you know.

Even if they still fat and got problems with their pancreas, they cure it?

Yes.

Oh shit. Okay, cool. Green Food Plus, chlorophyll rich. All right. And so, um, damn, you got everything. Lymphatic treatment. What's this?

That's good for cleaning the lymphatic system. It's very good for lupus, you know, that it's clean, the whole entire lymphatic system.

Okay. All right, cool. So I'm gonna be taking these myself. All right. And then, um, bromide. Oh, Sea Moss Plus. Okay, so what is 102 minerals?

Yeah, that's contains sea moss, bladderwrack, burdock root. It's contain another ingredient over there to help you with thyroid. Skin condition, like people dealing with arthritis.

Okay.

So yes.

All right, cool. Do you have an online website where people can order this stuff?

Just go to bolingobalance.com.

What?

Bolingobalance.com.

We just going to spell that out for y'all because I don't expect y'all to know how to—

Bolingo.balance.com, you know.

Oh, Bolingo—

Balance.

Like balance. Balance.com.

Yes.

Your Spanish accent is coming out, so it's hard to, you know, English please. Yeah, it is. Okay. And then you have here the Nourish, the alkaline hair growth.

Yes.

Okay. So I'm definitely going to be using that. And you also have— you got everything. Alkaline salve. What's this?

That's good for the skin. Like people dealing with eczema or dry skin.

Okay.

That's amazing.

All right, cool. And we got 2, 3 more products and then we can get into the wine. I mean, I'm sorry, water. We're going to be drinking water today with Victor Bowman. All right, Dr. Sebi's. You're one of his youngest sons, ain't you?

Oh yeah, I got one younger daughter. Oh, my younger sister is called Taiwa, you know. That's—

how old is she?

She's like 15 right now.

15, and you 24?

Yes.

Wow. And I heard you really— you popping out there in LA right now.

I'm everywhere.

I heard, I heard. We're gonna get into it. Okay, so— oh, this is the— this is the casacara.

I like to call it casacara sagrada. Please, I know the ingredient. Casacara sagrada is one herb from, you know, Mexico. It's helping with clean the colon. I recommend to everybody because a lot of people dealing with colon cancer, you know, because we eating 3 or 4 times a day. Some people need to go to the restroom the whole day, you know. So that help you with constipation, that help you clean your colon, your liver.

Okay, so how much are you supposed to take of this?

You can take 3 pills every day.

Every day.

You need to be careful because you take that, you can't go outside. You're going to be in the restroom.

Okay, I like that, I like that. You stay home. Okay, so stay home. So how often do you recommend that? Like, because I'm going to take this. I told you I was having issues with bloating and stuff like that. So, and I haven't had a colonic. And you were like, don't do no colonic. You told me that. You was like, you got something, which is this, the Cascara Sagrada.

Yes.

Okay. And so how often would I take? Like 3 times a day, but for how long?

You can take it every day. I'm doing right now one 90-day fast. Today is my 20— uh, no, my 45 days of my 90-day fast, only water. So I'll be taking Cascara Sagrada, sea moss, everything.

I feel good. You ain't had no food in 45 days?

No, I'm going to do it for 90.

For 90? That's why you sit up and smiling. I'm gonna do it for 90. Okay, so, um, All right, so, so basically I could take this for 3 days and then stop? Yeah, whenever, just basically listen to my body?

Yeah.

Okay, I cannot wait. And you say you mix it with the sea moss?

You got— you can use it separate, you know, you can take the pills, you can take the sea moss too, because the sea moss is going to help you to, uh, help you to— we are not the different part of the body, that's good for calcium, you know.

Okay, okay, gotcha.

Skin and the cascarosa. Only focus to clean your colon.

Okay, gotcha. That's what I need right there. And then you got Cell Energizer, relief from cravings.

That's good for energy.

Okay, that's the code.

The Viento, my father used to call them the Viento, you know.

Your daddy used to call this Viento, so it made him feel strong.

Yes.

So that's why he got a lot of babies and shit.

We hope you got a lot of babies.

They said Dr. Sebi had that thing. That's what they said, bro. Listen, okay. And then you got— oh, the Parasite Cleanse.

Parasite Cleanse. Yeah.

Okay. So can I take this in conjunction with the Cascara?

Yeah, you can take it together. So many people come and be like, Victor, I can't take it together. You eat rice, bean, potato in the same plate. You know, ask your mother, hey, I can eat rice, bean, potato in the same plate. It's the same thing. This food, you know.

Okay, okay, cool. I got you now. That makes sense.

Yeah.

Okay. And then Iron Plus. Iron Plus.

That's helping with lupus. I am anemia, you know, sickle cell.

Okay, cool. Well, listen, thank you for— how much I owe you? Because I ain't got no money.

That's okay.

What's your website one more time?

Bolingobalance.com.

Okay. All right, cool. I'm so excited to do this interview because, uh, listen, what's wrong? What y'all want? Okay, up to the mic. All right, cool. Um, I'm like, I know this thing ran out of battery life that soon. What the hell? Okay, let me put my little goodies right here. And Jasmine and ever— and Slink, You better not touch my. Okay, look, they over there talking about. Look. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I bet when you move vitamins, you got to have an armored vehicle, don't you? It's getting like that.

Yeah.

It's getting like that. Do you have to worry about, like, your place getting robbed?

And I really don't care about, you know, the government, you know, it's happened. You know, I care more about my own people. Okay, the back of me, you know, so I don't care about the government coming to kill me. You know, it's my own people, you know.

Oh, shit. Yeah, them motherfuckers got to worry about their own people. Okay, cool. Well, listen, I'm excited to have you.

Thank you.

You just— you're— you just went viral. You know that. I know. And a good friend of mine called me and he was like, Tasha, we gotta— we gotta make this happen. And so you were in the viral photo with Wendy Williams. Okay. I assumed because her son, Little Kev, had said that, you know, she was her most healthiest when he was with her— when she was with him because of her vegan lifestyle, like her plant-based lifestyle, alkaline, alkaline lifestyle. And so her memory was starting to come back, her health was getting better. She was just a whole new person. And then when she— when— that was when she was with him. Then when she went back to the caregivers, he doesn't know what the went down. But it seems like her diet is more so alcohol, not alkaline all the time. Yes. And, you know, you happened to see her the other day, and I thought it was an old photo, but turns out it was fresh.

It's new. Yes. You know, I know Kevin for a long time, from 2015. He came to Honduras, you know, with his father.

You talking about little Kev? Little Kev herself?

Little Kevin, you know, Kevin Jr. He came with his father. In 2015 with Shaquille O'Neal, you know. So my father helped him to deal with something he used to do in that time. You know, I know him for a long time. So, you know, that day he called me, be like, yo, I want to go to the store with my mother. He came Sunday, you know. So I respect, I have a lot of respect for him. So I post the picture like maybe like Monday. Everybody start coming crazy for the picture, you know. So he came to the store. Wendy Williams came, you know, we introduced some product to her. The security came, you know, he got interested about that. He made it to honey, a couple of different products, would give it to her. But yeah, she had a little bit of a problem walking, you know.

Okay. Yes. Okay. Now, is it true that you guys had to hold her up during that photo to take that picture?

No.

Okay. Yeah, because my source that put me in contact with you told me that.

No, she walked a little bit, you know, but she had one little— see, she moved around, you know, his security. So yes.

Did you guys have to help her in and out of the car or anything like that? No. So what was her mental state like when she came in?

Uh, she came like, like a little bit, uh, you know, we have a whole conversation. She thought I, I used to be my father. She'd be like, oh, I remember you for a long time. That's my first time meet her, you know.

Okay.

Oh, you look like the same. I'll be like, no, that's his son, you know. Kevin told him told her, you know. So yes, a little bit of a problem, you know.

Okay, now what was like— so her mental state, in your opinion, was, was pretty good?

Yes, a little bit. A little, not like 100%, you know. Yes.

Okay. All right. So, um, you had— let's, let's back up a little bit because see, you got some wine that nobody's ever spilled before. I'm sorry, water. You took— you were there when your— when little Kev was brought to Usher Village when he had smoked the K2. And he has some issues with his, I guess, maybe his brain, his mind functioning well. And so he was flown there privately with his father and his father's mistress at the time. And you were pretty young when that happened, right?

Yeah, like 15, you know, 15. I didn't know too much about the situation. My father told me like, yo, I want you to meet Wendy Williams' son, you know. Okay. I'll be like, okay, you know. My father went to the airport to pick him up because he fly to Honduras in private jet, you know. So I used to take care of, uh, Kevin, you know. He used to be like little.

What was his condition like? Was it, was it pretty severe when he walked in?

Uh, it's like I don't exposed too much, you know, because—

well, I mean, it's gonna sell the, the Usha Village because the Usha Village is still open, right?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's just gonna sell the Usha Village because I'm telling you, anything happened to me, that's where I'm going. Yeah, I'm like, who's running it now?

Um, I think so my sister. I know, I know Twinbow and that, you know.

Okay, but it's still open, it's still functioning, and they're still curing people.

Uh, I don't know too much. I, I've been in United States for almost like 7 years, so I end up going to Honduras. I don't know too much about it.

You haven't gone back?

No.

Why is that?

You know, family issues. You know, my father died. Later, people start fighting for money. So I decided to come to the United States, build my own empire, you know, by myself.

Okay. I mean, you're pretty young to be building your own empire and stuff like that. I mean, it's a good thing, but like— Yes. Yeah.

Everything changed when my father died, you know, when he passed away. Is it true that your mom—

because was with your dad during like his last days and visited him in jail?

Yes, my mom and me, you know, my mother used to cook for my father. You know, my mother used to go to jail, bring the food to my father every day, you know?

Okay.

Yes.

Okay. Do you want to talk a little bit about that? Because your father's legacy is so huge.

I can talk about it because a lot of confusion on the internet. Somebody said this, somebody said that. But I used to be in there with my father. You know, I used to go every Sunday. Sad today to see my father inside the jail.

Okay. Okay. So what— All right. First of all, okay. Why was he arrested?

He went to jail 2 times in the same year. First time he went for like 20— No, the first time he went with the same situation. So he only last like 3 or 2 days in there, in the island, Roatan. Later he did it again. He verified the money here in United States. So when he got to Honduras, you know, people in Honduras started to give problems to my father, you know. So he came to America to pick up the money because he tried to build something in Roatán because my father have a little island over there. So he tried to build something over there. So the people in California never seen the paper where my father took the money because Honduras government asked, you can't show proof whatever take that money from the United States, we can't leave you, like, we can't release you. People in the office in California never seen the paper, you know. So that's why he last 2 months in jail.

All because they were waiting on a piece of paper?

Yes.

Well, what if he just released the money? Then what?

It's not about the money, it's that I want to prove because he got stuck 2 times by the same issue about the money. So I want to only to show proof where he get the money, he going to be released. People in California took so long to release the paper, you know.

Oh, okay, to prove where the money came from. Okay. And so, um, the second time, you guys didn't expect him to be—

No, that's, that's the, the second time. The first time, you know, my father get out from that situation, you know.

Okay, so the paperwork was sent, but the second time, the paperwork took a long time. It was too late. Yes. Okay. What were the conditions like in the jail?

My father used to have everything. He used to have his own TV. He used to have his own bed. I buy the bed with Henry. He used to work in Ushuaia. We went to buy the air conditioning, TV, Wi-Fi, everything. My father used to have everything.

In jail? Yes. That's another thing. I forgot.

Yeah. He used to have his own room inside the jail. Bathroom, you know, we push one bathroom, clean everything. He used to have everything on there.

Okay, because it is like, I do know, like, you know, visiting Mali where my husband is from, you know, if you want to eat, if you go to jail, your family pretty much supports you. They have to bring your food. Yes. They have to bring your clothes. The jail doesn't provide anything like how they do here. You know how they'll provide your food, your clothes, you know, little essentials and stuff that you need as a woman. They don't do that over there. You got to bring everything. Yeah.

No, you can't eat inside the jail, bro. My father, not going to eat that food inside the jail. So my father, you know, my mom used to cook quinoa, you know, mushroom. That's what he used to like.

Okay. So he ate a lot of mushrooms?

Yes.

Okay. What type of mushrooms?

Porcini mushroom, you know?

Okay.

Yes.

Okay, cool. So he was in good spirits?

Yes. But that last week, you know, my mom went with the Nechepita. Nechepita is that girl made that tea, the herb. In Mujabilin. My mother went that week before Friday. She went to see my father. My father told her the only way I'm going to get out from here is dead, in one casket. Sorry. My mother started telling him, no, you're not going to get out in one casket. He said, yes. So Friday my father started getting sick inside the jail. So the people inside the jail took my father to the door, tell the people inside the jail, Dr. Sebi is sick. He throwing up blood. If the people in jail tell him, the people inside the jail, the police told the people inside the jail, like, bring my father back to that room. So the doctor from inside the jail went to check my father. He said, he okay, he not need nothing. The next day, my mother start cooking. I am on phone in the bed. A lot of people like, hey, I remember 8:20. Everybody start calling me, be like, Victor, you okay? I be like, yes, I okay. So I get up from the bed. I went to the TV. I push that TV. The first thing I see on the TV, Dr. Sebi died. I be like, what? My mother throw the food in the floor. I start crying. So we getting ready. We going to the hospital. I recognize my father's body. I went to inside the hospital to be like, yes, that's my father. So people start crying. Later we went to the day my father died, Saturday, we went to jail Sunday. My father used to have somebody to take care of him because in Honduras, it's woman and men inside the jail. It's mixed. So it used to be one lesbian. I'm sorry. Is that the right way to say lesbian?

Okay. It was a lesbian woman. Okay.

She used to sell weed to my father because my father used to make weed tea and wishabillings because helping with the nervous system. She used to sell it. But in that moment when my father used to be in jail, she used to be in jail. So she used to take care of my father. Nobody go to mess with my father in that room, nothing like that. So she told me when my father passed away that morning, my father told her, I'm going to go. My father only put his head in the back, you know, he closed the eye, he died, you know, in peace.

So he went from healthy to throwing up blood?

Yes.

So, you know, there are rumors floating around that somebody poisoned him in jail.

It's because when my father died, nobody, you know, when people die, check your, your body, how you die, like an autopsy. My father never had that.

Oh, so they just put him in the ground?

Yes.

At the jail?

Yeah. So when people being in the internet be like, how doctor say we die for pneumonia, that's— he not used to cure nothing. I be like, which people tell you like he died for pneumonia, you know?

Yeah, that's what the rumor is, that he died from pneumonia in jail, but that wasn't the case.

Yes.

You guys don't know how he died?

Yes.

Oh, well, how do you think he died?

Like, you know, um, it's been about a lot of people, you know. A lot of people only think it's the government, his family members over there involved, you know, because the lawyers— the lawyer used to work on my father's case, he not did nothing. My father died, he paid thousands of dollars to people in Honduras, you know. I still have the paper where my father tried to get another lawyer from here, from United States. To try to help him because he used to trust nobody, you know, because everybody used to try to take care, you know, take it away from him, you know.

Like his money? Yes. Because I was gonna say Honduras, you know, no shade to Honduras, but a lot of countries you can pay your way to get out of situations. So like, this is very different that he couldn't pay his way, being that he was very wealthy, to get out of this situation. No, it's not.

It's because the people used to be in there, you know. I know can't do nothing because I used to be 16, you know, so I can't do nothing, you know. But I, I know how my father passed away, you know. There's a lot of confusion on internet.

So all you guys knew was that he was throwing up blood? Yes. Said, you know, basically he wasn't going to be here in a week? Told the, the lesbian lady that made the weed tea for him No more tea. This is it for me.

No, no. He said, I'm going to go. Like, he closed the eyes, passed away in there in peace, you know.

Damn. Okay, so I'm glad we cleared that up because, you know, there was so many things. Oh, he was poisoned. He had pneumonia.

A lot of people said I used to fast. I mean, like, what? My father used to fast? He used to tell me, like, bring me mango. I used to bring mango to inside the jail, you know. Used to have everything, you know. He used to smoke weed. He used to do everything inside the jail, you know.

Damn. So when you're— so what is your— what does your mom think? Like, how does she think he died? Like, what do you think?

My mom's like, you know, she keep it like everything quiet. First, everybody know how he passed away, you know.

And y'all ain't gonna say nothing?

No, that's Honduras, you know.

Okay. Yes. You don't want no problems with Honduras.

It's not about Honduras. Like, you know, people in Honduras killing you, it's like nothing. Somebody, one Black person dies, like nothing, you know. It's like in here in United States, somebody killing you is going to start investigating, you know. And Honduras, like nothing. You're like one dog.

Where was your dad originally from? Was he originally from Honduras?

He's from Honduras, yeah.

Okay, okay. Now how close are you to Ma'a? I haven't seen her since we did the interview.

Oh man, I always see my brother, sister. You know, I never meet Ma, you know, but she's a good person, you know.

Okay.

I never meet her.

Now, did Ma and your mom have issues?

Oh, no.

No. Okay. Did you see the interview that she did with me?

Oh, yes.

You did?

Yes.

Because I do know— I don't know if it was your mom that reached out and she said she had wanted to do an interview.

Oh, no, no.

With her and Czar back in the day. This was a long time ago.

No, my mom isn't gonna do that. My mom don't even like that interview or nothing like that, you know.

Okay. Now, your mom is— is your The mom, she's done interviews though, hasn't she?

No, she's like—

I'm confused. So who's— okay, is your mama the one with the dreads?

No, that's Sabe's mom. You know, that's my sister's mom. It's called Sabe, you know.

Okay.

Yeah.

So your mom is— we ain't never seen her.

No, she in Honduras called Vilma. That's my mom.

Vilma?

Yeah, Vilma.

Vilma?

Yes.

Oh, okay.

She not like social media. She not do her—

So she's the youngest wife? Is she the youngest wife?

Oh no, she like, she 49. 9, you know.

That's young.

Yeah.

The fuck?

Yes.

Okay, man, Dr. Sebi must was— your daddy must was real charming, bro.

I know. Yes, I know.

Like, for him to be that age and he pulling women by the pound— how many of y'all you think it is? I always ask the siblings this. How many kids do you think your dad got?

Ah, one time he told me he's 20 He told me 25, but I don't, you know, that was back there. Yes, like he used to travel, you know, he used to travel.

He—

so I don't know how many brothers I got, you know.

So you haven't met all your siblings?

Yes, I think so. That's a mistake that my father, you know, before he died, he never puts nothing together with my brothers and sisters. That's why so much drama on the internet. Somebody said this, somebody said that, because my father never puts everybody together, be like, hey, that's your brother, this me, your sister, everybody fighting, you know.

So like, how did you— did your mom teach you about like herbs and things like that, or your dad?

My father, my father told me, and, uh, to start going to high school, being Usha Village, learning about herbs, you know.

Oh, okay. So you worked in Usha Village? Yes. Okay, because that's why I was asking you about Lil Kev, because I was like, you guys brought him back to life.

I know.

Yeah. And that's that. I didn't want to, like, I guess, expose him per se, because I have a soft spot for Lil Kip because he's, you know, even though he's not a child now, but he's, you know, the work that y'all did on him because, you know, sources did tell me like he was pretty much— his brain was gone. My doctors couldn't do anything.

Yes, I know. My father— that's my father, the doctor said. But I never see my father heal somebody less than one week. Like, Did it with little Kevin in one— less than one week.

Less than one week with herbs?

Yes.

So, okay, can you— okay, what can you tell us about it? Because the thing is, there's so many kids that this is happening to over here where they're smoking synthetic drugs, because we know about that. Wendy has talked about that, him smoking K2. Um, and K2, since it's synthetic and man-made in a lab, it caused, I guess, a brain issue and a nervous system issue where he wasn't functioning right. Yes.

I think it's not only the K2. I think so, every weed in United States compromised, you know. I don't recommend to anybody to smoke the weed.

Even the ones from the dispensary?

No, I don't recommend to nobody, you know. That's not the same weed growing in Mexico, Jamaica, you know. And when I came to America, it's still see a different color. I be like, I don't When you go to Honduras, you see that weed is only one color, and here is different color. This Gorilla Glue, this, that, not the one. So it's money in the lab, you know. So that's—

so where you, where you get your weed from? Honduras?

I get some of my weed from Mexico, you know, my Mexican friends.

Yeah. Okay. And they grow it from scratch, you know? Because when I was in Jamaica, you know, my friend, he, his brother got a field of weed, and when I smoked that weed, I couldn't believe it. Yeah, I had never smoked weed like that before in my life. It felt pure.

Yes.

It didn't make me feel no type of way. Like, it was just like, I was just good. Everything is all good. But this shit over here now, it's compromised. Hmm. Because I'm like, what? Why do they need to take it from the plant to this to the tube to, you know what I'm saying? Yes. Yeah. So okay. But, um, so you don't recommend anything. So we don't tell them what he could have smoked and it fucked up his brain and everything like that. But your dad hit— what, what type of herbs was your dad using to bring him back?

He used a lot, you know. It's like, how come— like, the same one I give it to you, this different product. My father used that same thing, you know.

But he put everybody on a fasting diet when they get there?

Yes.

No food?

It's like you're eating fruit, you know, banana, garbanzo, wild rice, you know, soup.

Okay. Yes. While they're administering herbs to Yes. To heal you.

Yes.

Okay. Okay. Wow. And so now, you know, Kevin, he's still— he's still plant-based.

Like, I know.

Yeah. On an alkaline diet.

Yes. After this interview, I'm going to see him. You know, he told me like, we're going to link up.

Yeah, because he do live down here.

Yes.

Yeah. Okay. Okay, cool. I would love to talk to him one day. I really would. So, you know, I know he know I ain't saying nothing about that boy on the internet. Like privacy.

I got privacy.

I know he likes his privacy and stuff like that. But like, he's the only one that could come shut all this bullshit down that's going on with his family and stuff. So our platform is always open and always extended to him. You know, I don't fuck with his father. I know this is daddy, but I just don't fuck with him. You know, like Kevin, Big Kevin is just not a good person to me.

I know.

You said, I know. How you know?

Something I used to see, you know, in Usha Village, you know.

What'd you see?

I come for things.

Like what? Give us one example.

You know, because Kevin used to deal with that, with that thing in that time. He used to be going hard on Kevin, little Kevin, you know. Sometimes I used to tell my father, hey, he go hard on him, you know. My father had one conversation with, you know.

So it is true that he used to abuse Kevin?

Yes.

Okay. Yeah, because my sources, they pretty straight now. Yeah. You know, so I did hear that. And even when he was trying to go through healing, I did hear that down there at Usha Village, he was even being aggressive and abusive towards Kevin while he was— because he didn't— I guess the thing was he didn't know that Kevin was dealing with a nervous issue, nervous system issue and brain issue that bad. Like, he thought maybe he was faking or something. And so I guess he was angry and was trying to, I don't know, be aggressive with him to make him heal himself or something.

Yes.

Yeah. But so you had to go tell your daddy, hey.

Yeah, I told my dad that time, you know.

Okay.

Yeah, my dad had one conversation with him, you know, that's why he pushed my coxy Evelyn with me to take care of Kevin that time, you know.

Okay, so he can get some full healing. That's a down— because so could you imagine if he was aggressive with Lil Kev while he was trying to heal? Probably what he did to Wendy. I mean, because yeah, he was cheating all those years. Could you imagine what the fuck he did to Wendy mentally?

I don't know.

Yeah, like, come on. Like, yeah, it was like a— it was like a rocket scientist to figure out, you know, what's going on and everything like that. But, um, so did you meet Lisa? Were you— I don't think you were old enough to remember Lisa Lopez.

I know his mom. I know his brother. You know, his mom used to come to Usha Village when I used to be in there, when my father used to be— was still alive. So I know his brother too, you know.

Okay.

Yeah.

You talking about— we talking about Lisa Lopez?

Lisa Lopez family, I know. I know Lisa Lopez.

So they still come— they still used to come to the village even after? Okay, okay. You still got— I know your sister's running it and stuff, but I can imagine like with your business and everything like that, because you're in— even though you have a website online, Your place is— isn't your place in LA?

Yeah, got one store in Newark, New Jersey, and another store in Philadelphia too, you know.

So you got 3 stores?

Yes.

At 24 years old?

Yes.

Damn. Okay. All right. How many wives you got?

No. I know. I only have one.

Just one? All right. How many side bitches you got? Your daddy? Your daddy ain't blood ain't running through you like that?

No, I I'm too much trauma, you know. I see my dad, he went through a lot of things. I don't want to go through a lot of things.

Oh yes, my husband said that too. His dad has 3 wives. His mom is the youngest wife. Wow. But you know, in his culture, because you know, they Muslim, Africa, like you got to take care of everybody equally. So like I say hi to all my mother-in-laws. Hi, hi, hi. You know, they all live together. And, um, you know, I tell my husband, I'm like, why you didn't want multiple wives? He was like, you see what my daddy be going through? Like mentally, I'm not going through Yes.

Uh-uh.

He said they used to fight. My daddy used to just leave the house, like, let them fight. Wow. I said, oh no. So 24 years old. Dang, you like really, really like mature for your age.

I know, life made me like that, you know. Maybe growing up fast.

You got kids yet?

No.

You waiting to have kids?

Uh, yeah, I started thinking. I still thinking to have a kids. Not right now.

So where you putting— your daddy would kill you if he knew you was not putting sperm in a woman.

Yes, because when you are doing this, you know, helping a lot of people, you know, travel. I don't want to be selfish, you know. I want to be in their home and sit down. I want to be like, I retire, I don't want to do this later.

Oh, because you're not there full-time, you want to be there for your kids?

Yes.

Do you think it's because maybe your dad had to travel a lot and you wanted him around more? Is that— that's the reason why?

Yes, I don't enjoy my dad too much because he used to travel too much. So I don't want my kids dealing with the same thing I used to deal with my own dad, you know. Sometimes he like calling my my, my father friend be like, how my father used to do this? Oh, perhaps used to be my father, because I know used to be with my father too much because he used to travel New York, Atlanta, you know, come to LA.

Okay, but he put y'all ass to work though. Yeah, that's why he was having kids. He was like, I need y'all to work, I got a hospital.

Yeah.

So are you gonna open up your own hospital here?

Uh, plan to open in Central America, not here.

Okay. Why particularly Central America?

Because like the environment, I think. So here I am like dark skin. I don't want to say like black because it's like label by somebody. So I'll be like black people in America dealing with 3 different kind of stress that thing I dealing here, I'm not going to deal in there, you know, like police, police, environment, the weather. You know, sometimes I go to New York, I eating healthy, you know, but I'm getting to New York. I get sick because the weather is— we're not supposed to be in cold weather, you know. That's why so many people dealing with thyroid issue because the body is stressed, you know. Later, the food is not the same thing. It's not, it's not, it's not the same quality, you know.

I was trying to tell people that thyroid issue is affecting about 50 to 60% of the population now. It's a lot. I have thyroid issues.

Yeah, more the like darker skin, you know, like you, like me, you know, because the weather stress, you know. Black people in America dealing with 3 different kind of stress, you know, police, economy, the food, the weather too is mixed.

Okay, okay. So, um, so is that what you're seeing amongst like when you go from house to house and you travel and you go from state to state? What are some of the most common things that you are getting called in for?

Uh, when I get over there by, you know, East Coast over here, like New York, high blood pressure, diabetes, STD, different kind of STD, you know, breast cancer too.

STD is preventable.

STDs are preventable, like herpes, this kind of thing, you know.

It's preventable, right though, right?

You can cure that, so you can prevent that, you know. It's everywhere.

Okay. And so you said, you said, I'm sorry, I just had, I was like, so I'm thinking like maybe some of the more harsher STDs, like what, like, are you being called in for like what?

Herpes, you know, okay, HIV, you know, this kind of STD.

So you, and you have to go in? Yeah, just like you were in Usha Village. And so you cleaning them up just like your daddy was?

Yes.

Because your daddy went to court for that.

I know my sister, my sister do the same thing. My aunt too, you know, helping a lot of people, you know, it's a lot A lot of people start coming out, I heal this, I heal that. There's no healing nothing, you know.

Damn.

Yes.

Okay.

You're awesome, buddy. He's calling himself master healer, you know, he don't know too much about it.

Okay. Okay. Because they're— and that's one of the things too, everybody— there's a lot of people claiming to be your dad's kids. Is these like kids, are they the real deal? Are all y'all in the business?

It's not too many, you know. I can, I can push my sister, she used to be with my father making the formula, my aunt too, you know, Mr. Sebi, you know. So that's the people I know used to be in there, you know. A couple people come over, then it's like you don't know nothing about it, you know.

Okay, okay. So, um, wow, wow. Yeah, because I mean, that was a big thing too. After your dad had, uh, passed away, there were so many people online claiming to be, you know, your dad's kids and having the herbs and stuff like that and the secret or the—

this is funny.

Why is it funny?

Because, uh, 90% of that people never went to my father funeral, you know. I used to be the only one over there, my two sisters, you know. I say I'm Dr. Sebi Dora. She used to be in there. She never went to see my father in jail. Nobody like Dr. Sebi grandson either. So, you know, he being there on the internet telling people, oh, I'm Dr. Sebi grandson, my father, my grandfather My grandfather showed me the recipe. He don't know nothing about herbs, you know. So he destroyed the name of my father. Like, people come over, he claim I heal this. Later, people don't get healed. Be like Dr. Sebi family, bro. It's not everybody in the family, you know. Yeah, these people in there, but it's like, these people is too much social media, the perfect vlog. So people think like, oh, this is the real deal. You know, you can't pay for interview. If people going to think, oh, you in there because you know whatever you talking about. But it's like, you don't know.

[Speaker:LATASHA TRANSRINA KEBEBE] Yeah, I'm only let, you know, you, Ma'a, and your sister sit down. Those are the only 3 that I've let sit down. Like, because I'm just, you know, I'm so protective of y'all family. I don't play that shit. Like, I just— and not everybody, it's just like, I feel like everybody's now trying to capitalize off things. And, you know, say that they have it just because it's more of a profitable thing, but they ain't got shit. Yes. Yeah. And the fact that you, you even are promoting your sister, and you're not even working in the village. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're like, listen, I'm here, she's over there. So that, that to me speaks a lot.

Yes.

Yeah.

Because the goal is not to make $1 million. The goal is to heal 1 million people. So you know, that's That's the goal my father want to do, that I continue his dream, you know.

So you're not nervous about the government trying to come after you?

No.

Why?

I'm more scared to live in lies than living true, you know. Yeah, because not only the government, it's a lot of people in the internet. I don't know if you guys can say some name over here, you know.

Yeah, yeah, go ahead. No, please.

Um, you have this guy Jackie, you know, he confuse people. It's come a lot of people, a lot of people coming to me with a lot of messenger. Hey, I buy this packet $3,000, it never heal I got this consultation for $700. Yeah, I be like, he don't even know what he talking about. He confused too much.

Shots fired. You know, Yaki has sat here.

Uh, ladies, Chaka Bar. It's a lot of people. It's too much. I exposed Chaka Bar to selling face seamless to the Black community. He come over here, Black woman is God, but he used to sell face seamless to the Black community. That's why he closed his business. You Remember we used to sell fruit and root?

Yeah.

People used to think like, I'm from Jamaica, he used to come from Miami, one mango $10. I'd be like, brother, you're going to sell crack in America to help people in Africa? Like, no, you need to do right over here, you need to do right over there. You know about the whole—

Shaka Barz is pretty popular.

He like to kiss the ass to the celebrity, that's why, you know. He tried to tell me, Victor, push me in contact with Keith Palmer to give you some fruit because I used to help Kiki Palmer for one moment. So he used people, famous people, to get money from the Black community. He didn't even like Black people. He told me, Victor, stop exposing people, only take the money. And that's why I stopped messing with him.

So y'all was friends at one point?

I donated $10,000 to Chaka Bar. You know, I have a whole meeting with Nipsey Hussle and Chaka Bar. Nipsey Hussle's mom is Chaka Bar. Next day, Chaka Bar start talking about Nipsey Hussle's That's my first day I meet Nexxy Hustle Mom. So how you going to be talking about Nexxy Hustle Mom when the first day I meet you, you know? It's like— so later I get up from that meeting, I call Nexxy Hustle Mom, be like, yo, stop messing with Chaka because he talking, you know, garbage about you. So I stop messing with him, you know?

Yeah, he hit me up one time in the DM.

He clowned.

This is, this is crazy. Oh no, I just, I, I always felt like, um, you know, he's really intelligent with his words and stuff and he knows how to market himself, but you know, I was just never like—

He's intelligent, you know, anybody can be say something, some beautiful in there, it's like, wow. But you know, in America it's not too much knowledge, like people in the Caribbean Like we see like, oh, okay, you know, praying. And here in America, cure this, somebody come bring you like some grass, mix it with spring water, it'd be like, oh, this can help you cure cancer. People will start buying, you know. But you go to Jamaica, be like, this product cure cancer, people in Jamaica will ask you, show me paperwork, you know. And here I challenge Jackie to do one challenge because he call it the— I don't want to—

this my Jackie awakening.

Yeah, I tell Jackie, let's bring 10 people for you, 10 people people for me. Let's heal these people. In the end of the year, we're going to show people proof. He never want to. He is scared. Why? You call yourself master healer, sharp black people, poor black people, $700 for consultation. You know, it should be like a lot of people— isn't this no drama? You know, I growing up around sick people, you know, helping sick people, you know, with my father. So this— I feel the pain from sick people because so many people come to me, Victor, dealing with HIV, I want kill myself. Victor dealing with this, I want to kill myself. So I want to be the voice for that people. Like, you know, it's not because it's not about black and white, you know, it's like the devil come in different color. It's coming to come.

So you say Yaki Awaken is the devil?

You know, it's devil, but I only say like it's about energy, you know.

Yeah, yeah, yes. Okay. Damn, son, damn.

I'm sorry to say that because why you apologizing?

That's your opinion.

There's no opinion, it's true.

Okay, then that's the proof. Then you got the seats. He said, you bring 10 people, I bring 10 people. Nigga, he backed off. So I, I— hey, I ain't got no dog in this fight. I know, listen, I've, I've had a few interviews with Yaki, and you know, we've talked about a few things.

And, um, asking yourself, how is you eating only fruit but you still look fat? No, asking you, how you going to eat fruit, only fruit, you look fat? Look at me, skinny. My eyes skinny. Dr. Sebi skinny.

me. Shots fired.

No, I only asking you.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You just b. That man still fat. He said he had suffered from a heart attack. He. He had a heart attack. He was on cocaine. He was on drugs. He was on all types of. And now he changed his life. And so he lost. He lost weight and he said he. He's healthier now. He reverses diabetes. He heart problems. He got rid of the coke habit. He does shrooms though.

No, I, I, no, I only comment to speaking facts over here.

Yeah, no, this is what he said.

No, I know, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see, you know, but it's like everything he said don't make sense, you know, in no way. You know, you go to the healers in Jamaica, you deal with this, you give the answer. He like to break down things He never opened one human body. How you gonna talk about the human body? We healer, we never supposed to open one human body, you know. See, the body is— the human body is supposed to be open. We used to have one seat over here, you know, to open, try to take the heart, and later— no, you're not supposed to open the human body, you know.

Okay, um, anything else you want to share with us?

Whatever. I don't know.

I don't know, like, because I didn't expect it to go that way. Who else be out here? Because you said Chaka Bars, you said Yaki Awakened. Who else should we look out for?

Uh, Nightingale.

Who?

Nightingale.

Nightingale? Who is that?

Uh, you— one guy from the Nation— it's part— I don't— uh, he followed the Nation of Islam, you know. Nightingale, you know, he go over there, you know. Um, the last time, 2019, the Nation of Islam invited me to do one debate, you know. You, you know my English not perfect, so you said 10 keys. 19 Keys.

19 Keys. Oh shit. Okay, yeah, we know him.

Yeah, about that New World Order. Black people start doing this, sending money, scammer people, you know. Ladies selling the gold water, you know. It's one gold water, it's called $50. I'll be like, yo, you're going to damage somebody kidney. Come on, it's about to do it better. I only call these people over here to do better. It's not nothing about drama, you know. It's about to doing better. It's like your mother telling you, Hey, get off from this table because you're going to hurt. You still in the table, you go fall to the floor, you hurt yourself. I don't want for that people because it look like me come from Honduras, in Honduras, you don't make sense. Nobody going to listen to you. But in America, you can no make sense. You sound beautiful. People listen to you, be like, no, my father used to be in the side to the truth. I want to die for the truth no matter what. What?

19 Keys, Goldwater, Lion and Shit, Yaki Awaken, and Shaka Bars. Those are 3 major, major players in the Black community.

How about Prü? Still about Prü, the Shaka Bars. He never going to debate or nothing like that, you know. He know it.

Damn.

Okay, he's only making money only for Black community, no make money from white.

He gets hella donations all day.

I know, but he like to talk garbage about Black people in America. He don't like Black people in America. When you see a shakabar give you some free food, people in America, no, we know where.

That is very true, because he do—

he give you fruit too.

But he take the money, he take the money from us in America.

He don't like you.

Oh, I like you though, Victor. I like you. I like a motherfucker that's with the shit. So like, yeah, um, yeah, because his profile, it's like he just It's like donate, donate, donate, donate, donate, donate all day.

I think so. Black people need to— black people in America need to focus on black people in America. Africa people have so many rich people. Why you not ask to burn a boy?

They are rich. I was trying to tell motherfuckers over there, they rich. You know, them little people they be showing on the side of the street, they don't be hungry, they be hustling.

I know. I see so much homeless people more in here in America than I see homeless people in Honduras. So we need to build here before we build something Africa. We in here, you know.

Yeah.

So that's what we need to focus on, helping here, you know.

Yeah, I, I definitely agree for real. Like, you got, you got to go over there and see it, you know. You got people— not you, but I'm just saying people in general, like, they like to assume, oh, this goes on, I'm not going over there because it is like, you know, every time I go to Mexico with the cartel, cartel is here.

Yes, the car—

we in Miami, the cartel right here, like everywhere. It's everywhere. What are you talking about? There's drugs everywhere, right? So this is cartel. So what's the problem, you know? But, um, it's just a little example. But, uh, Victor, anything else you want to share with us about your business?

And no, I'll be helping to heal people with the breast cancer, you know, HIV, uh, herpes, a lot of different things, you know. So yes.

Okay, okay. What about thyroid nodules and stuff?

Yeah, I'll be helping a lot of people with thyroid issues, you know, infertility too, fibroids. You know, people coming to the store be like, yo, I deal with— ladies, you know, coming to the store be with the paperwork. Hey, the doctor told me I have a lot of fibroids, like 7 fibroids.

They want to do surgery and take everything out.

You only use the female balance, it's no longer have fibroid. We still have other paperwork.

So it shrinks them?

Yes.

Do they have to get on any type of diet in order for it to work though? Alkaline diet.

Yes.

Along with the herbs.

Yes.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, because I was telling you the other day, because when you was like, what are you eating? I was like, I mean, a lot of vegetables, broccoli, beans, cabbage, all types of stuff, you know, some plant-based. And you was like, no, you said that stuff is—

You're never going to find broccoli in a jungle, you know?

True.

You're going to find dandelion greens on the side of the freeway or anywhere, but you're never going to find broccoli or cauliflower, you know?

Do you have a list of foods we should be eating?

Uh, I have a list of the food, whatever you're supposed to eat. I don't like to focus too much whatever you're not supposed to eat because it's too many things you're not supposed to eat.

Okay, but I'm saying a list of food that we supposed to eat. Do you have a list like that?

Yes.

Can I have it?

Yes.

I want it for myself.

Okay, I see.

That's cool. Yes. Okay, I'm gonna get it. Yes. So, and I ain't giving it to y'all. I'm playing. I'm gonna give it. I'm playing. Um, yeah, because I'll be— I'll be confused, like, because I do notice, like, when I do eat broccoli broccoli or cauliflower or cabbage or even tomatoes here, like it really inflames me.

Yes.

Bad.

It's going to have a lot of starch, you know, it's going to cause inflammation in your body. A lot of people be like, Victor, what's good for inflammation? Still eating garbage, you know, do one fasting, water fast, it can help you.

Oh yeah, I love my water fast. I do like 3 days. Yeah. Beautiful. I do like 3 days and everybody was like, wait, how your skin get like that? I'm like, I be fasting.

Yeah.

And I drink a lot of water. Now I know a lot of people think I drink a lot of wine and stuff, I don't. I probably have maybe one full glass a week because I barely sip it. Like, people think I'm like, I'm drinking. I'm like, no, I'm sipping because I can't get drunk and do interviews. Like, they're not going to come out good. I'm not going to be able to keep my train of thought. You know what I'm saying? So it's just about the ambience of it all. You know? So yeah, yeah. But like I said, lately I have been on the broccoli really heavy and I've been bloating. Black-eyed peas is good for you. Black-eyed peas.

No, no.

What'd you say, Shaq? Yeah, okay, sorry. Um, so black-eyed peas are not good. Okay, we're just gonna focus on that. Huh?

Yeah, you take turmeric?

Yes, I take turmeric.

Stay away from that, it's horrible. Yes, we damage your kidney. That's why people in India dealing with kidney failure, you know, because turmeric, you know, when you cook turmeric in the table, you're kissing calamity. It. How long it stay that color? To get off from the table, you're kissing a lot of time, you know.

So that cur— I thought it was curry powder. It's turmeric.

Yes, curry too, you know. Black sea oil, that's not good either, you know that. You know, heard about this herb going viral, it's called shilajit. Shilajit.

Shilajit.

Yeah, that's come from one rock, you know. Two, a lot of people go to YouTube, to internet, start promo that, oh, shilajit is 10,000 times more stronger than sea That's a lie. Stay away from that too, you know?

Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I noticed your stuff is very original. You like your recipe, your, your herbs and stuff hasn't changed. You know, the chlorophyll, the sea moss, the burdock root, you know, these are the ones I read about in books and stuff like that. So I don't see anything like new that you're, you know, you're saying like Garcinia Cambogia, when they came out with that. What do you think about Garcinia Cambogia?

You know, is that—

Dr. Oz said it can help you lose weight.

Cáscara Sagrada will help you to lose weight. No, Cáscara Sagrada, listen, you going to lose like weight. You're going to be in the restroom.

I tell everybody, people be like, whenever you got a stomach virus, I be excited because I'm like, yeah, I'm about to lose some weight. I know, right? I know, I know. Yeah, but I can't wait to try it though, cuz I'm, I'm going take my first pill as soon as this interview's over. Oh wow, thank you.

Yeah, yeah.

No, no, thank you, because I told you, I was like, I'm tired of them saying I'm pregnant. So yeah, because I'm bloated and I'm not fat, like I'm just— my stomach just bloats from the food, some of the foods that I eat.

No, guys, I will help you.

Okay, cool. And you said 3 pills a day? Yes, starting out. Yeah, for how long?

You gotta take it every day, you know, whatever day, for the rest of your life? No, there isn't about this product You know, when you try to fix something, you already fix it. Continue your life. Okay, so what's the line? No, you know, no, go back to eating garbage later.

No, no, no, no, no, I won't do that.

I won't do this.

Okay, cool. Now, all right, so, um, yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait till I get the list and everything like that. Anything else you want to add?

I want to give a shout out to some brothers, you know. Okay, Adam, uh, we're going to do one event there in Atlanta. We're going to get some free herbs, you know. When? I want to come.

It's going to be November 21st. I think I'm on tour. Let me see if I'm not on tour, I'll stop by.

Yeah, we going to another event, the Masonic Temple, Brooklyn, New York, with KT. So yeah, because I travel around the United States, give free herbs to the community, because it's not about money, it's about helping people. So we going to another event in Atlanta. So yes, another thing.

This is a lot, a lot of herbs you gave me.

I know. No, yeah, I want to give it clear to everybody. We know, and the family, no, and boy, and Dr. Sebi Selfood, you know, because a lot of confusion. People think like it's run by the family. It's nothing to do with the family, you know. People used to work with my father, took it to that over.

Okay, cool. I want to see how I can use my platform to help.

Oh, no worry. Thank you.

He's on. No worry, I got you. We'll talk, we'll talk. Thank you. No, no, Thank you. Thank you. So listen, please, guys, if there's anything that you're, you're dealing with, please don't contact me, contact Victor. Because to this day, I still get hundreds of emails asking about Ma, your sister.

Yeah, Ma is good.

I know Ma is good. Her phone though, the number she left, it don't work. So we don't know. So right now, I want everybody to contact Victor. And so Victor, where can people find you? Look at the camera and tell them.

BilingualBalance.com. You know, my store in Newark, New Jersey, in Philadelphia, you know, Herbology is called Herbology. Yeah.

Okay, hold on for a second. I think we probably got the information here. You got it on the back of your—

in the corner.

In the corner. Okay. So BilingualBalance.com. So www.bolingo— B-A-L-A-N-C-E dot com. BilingualBalance.com. Okay. And your store is called Herbology.

Yeah, in Philadelphia. Got another store in Newark, New Jersey, Central— I forget there. You know, it's in there, you know.

Okay. All right, cool. Well, listen, thank you so much. Like I said, I can't wait to take my herbs. And, uh, yeah, we, uh, we out. Thank you, thank you. Okay, cheers! I'm excited. All right, which time's your flight?

Oh, tomorrow. Yes, I'm going to see Osho right now.

Really? Tell her I said hi. Thank you. Oh my God.

Okay, sorry for that, for that picture.

You know, guys, Sorry about shit, that's, that's y'all.