EXCLUSIVE | Milagro Gramz x Tasha K Full Interview | SURVIVING Megan Thee Stallioma

I am so excited, and I'm so fucking petty. Milagro, girl. Oh my God, you look amazing.

Thank you. Thank you.

I told you I was going to clock you when this interview Yeah, I don't know what you was about to say. Why do you use filters? Look at the face. Zoom in. Look at the—

Y'all finna zoom in?

Pull that hair out your face. Yes, we're going to zoom in. Why do you use filters?

I'm addicted. I don't know. When I got on Snapchat years ago, we had a little dog. And it got on my face. And it changed, like, the hue. It made everything, like, crispy. And ever since then, it's like I'm hooked. I don't know. Honestly, because I'm like, no, I'm in real life.

You're gorgeous. The skin is oily. You can't get your thumb off my lips.

Listen, listen, I just— I love them.

No, like, yeah, you're gorgeous.

Thank you so much.

And classy.

I don't— I think that people expect what they get on the show in real life, and that's a part of my personality, but there's a reason and an occasion for everything. So I feel like I'm going to give you what you give me.

I love that you're a superstar now. Like I said, you know, you have fans bringing portraits to you.

I was so grateful for that. I was looking around, and, you know, I was wondering if anybody was going to come, you know, because there was so much internet back and forth about it. But when I looked up, you know, there were people for me. So I was excited about that. And the man that brought that portrait, Like, he's been working on that for a while. And for somebody to think about you like that is so nice. It was really thoughtful, and I'm so appreciative. His name is Mr. Omar. Shout out to Mr. Omar.

Because you the only one got portraits. And you gave you a little shout out too, Jael. I saw it.

I had to. I had to.

I said, it was like she threw you shade. I said, no, she did not. And she did. And I needed that. So—

No, I told him, that's not shade. That's a shout out. Child, the way they always bringing us up together. You know, they was talking about what I had on too. They was waiting to see. So I was like, no.

You came out stepping, girl.

You did that. I think that we should get like a media deal with like these Fashion Novas and stuff like that. We go to court and whatnot.

Exactly.

And we have to dress up. So we should get a little line of affordable clothes for women on down there.

You came in here gagging. You went to court gagging. Came out gagging. OK? In my eyes, you won. Because I'm like—

And mine too, because it could have been worse.

It could have been.

It could have been worse.

It could have been. But listen, you still here. You standing. You know what I'm saying? And shout out to the jurors for seeing it for what it really was, you know? And I like that the defamation didn't stand.

I like that a lot.

Yeah. Like, you know me. I was literally scared for you because I just didn't want you to go through what I went through, and that was just astronomical, you know? Yeah, I'm blessed to have it, but who wants to give it away, right?

And that's all I heard. You will pay what Tasha K paid or more. That, you know, everybody felt like you walking out, it's gonna be millions. So yeah, look at God.

Look at God. 1K punitive damages versus 1.2. Million punitive damages.

Child, if I would have got your numbers, I would have rolled on the floor. I probably would have had some type of stroke or something.

No, and you know what's so funny? You drink wine, right?

Yes.

Okay, so this is— I've never had this one before. It's Astro— it's a product of Illy, Astrabella Black. It's a semi-sweet dark red blend. Okay, okay.

I just opened it. Ain't no Diddy shit going on, child.

Let me know if that's a good bottle. It matches your suit too and off the skin.

That is so good.

It's good? Okay, because I never had this. That is good.

I never had that. Okay, so I'm going to have to try some of my own too.

Oh, I don't want to get none on your— All right, let me get that off.

Thank you.

Make sure it doesn't get on your dress. And so, yeah, I was excited about this. I was praying for you, literally.

I was too.

I was about to send Megan a picture of that to somebody in Africa.

You tried to help me out a little bit. I was.

I was like, somebody got—

This is not right.

Cheers. Cheers to everything that you've came through, everything that you are, and everything that you are going to be.

Amen. Because so many people want to humble women like us. They don't want us to have a space to be who we are, which sometimes it's loud. Sometimes it's very good. Sometimes we cussing and fussing and stuff like that. And for some reason, they feel like we shouldn't be able to speak. We should be tucked away in a corner with a muzzle. So a lot of people didn't want me to have a tomorrow. So I'm just really grateful. People are wondering how I was smiling and happy. That was not facetious. I am so grateful.

Yeah, so she wasn't going to bed because I was like, you know, when my verdict came in, I went home that night and I processed everything. I'll never forget my daughter. She made me laugh. She was like, Mom, I just heard in school that you lost. Did you really got to pay this? I said, yeah. She was like, Mom, damn. I was like, you're not supposed to be cussing. And then we got home that night and I was just like laying in the bed. I said, baby, they want it today or tomorrow? Which one they looking for?

When and how?

OK. Yeah. At Christmas, they got it. I was like, now, how they going to get what we ain't got? What is it?

OK.

Yes. But you know, God came through, and we got it. And we got more. And we're still here. And like, you're still here. And so I think it was only right for us to sit down. I think so too. And get to know you. Because there are a lot of misconceptions out there about you. When I first found you on the internet, You sounded like my auntie. Bitch, motherfuck you. You know you ain't got no fucking business down there. Give me $20. That was my shit. I was like, so who is this? And I immediately started following you. I did. I didn't even know that you would talk about me. And when you did, I was laughing too. I was just like, because it was just so real. It's what I grew up with. It's how my mom my aunts talk to me, how we talk to the kids, how we talk to our girlfriends, our husbands. But as far as you, like, that's what I fell in love with. I did. And I still fall in love with it. And I say this to everybody. I said, we need bloggers like her because that is how we talk. I've had to dumb down, water down my stuff. That's why I have the app. You know what I'm saying? Because commercially, we have a lot of advertisers. They want the platform. And we got a team, everybody eats off of this. But it's you. It's you, you all day.

Yeah.

First of all, are you really from Houston? You really related to Beyoncé?

I am born and raised in Houston. And people think I'm lying, or they think it's a thing to say. I don't get shit from it. But yeah, she's my cousin, coincidentally enough.

How is Beyoncé your cousin?

Um, so her mother's father and my great-grandfather were brothers. My, um—

oh yeah, that's cousin.

Yeah, my grandfather up the line, um, had a family and his wife had a child, her sixth baby. After she had the sixth baby, she passed away, so he remarried. And then so he had other children, and the father is Mama Tina's dad. And so, um, my mother was raised by Ethel Boyance, and she married John Mallett. That's my grandfather. I was born Milagro Mallett, but my grandmother adopted me and my brothers. So she changed her name to Cooper so we could look more unified. So we got different daddies, different last names.

Okay.

So, um, she said everybody gonna have the same last name. So that's why I'm Cooper now. But yeah, it's boom boom. So I'm Milagro Mallett, my mom is Misty Mallett, her mom is Ethel Boyonce.

And that's where Beyoncé got her name from.

Yeah, yeah. And so my great-great-grandfather is Mama Tina's, um, they're her dad, they're brothers.

Now let me get messy. Why would like your cousin, like Beyoncé's your cousin, try to try to spearhead a lawsuit to sue you?

I don't know. I couldn't say that it was necessarily her, but we did find out in court that the office had heard about a lawsuit against me early in 2024. So it wasn't a secret. We've heard about how close the CEOs are supposed to be. And people were in contact talking about having a folder on me since 2022. So with all of the investigating and stuff going on, I mean, I feel like nobody looked to see who this person is that was suing. And it's not like we're hanging out at family reunions or anything else. But I see a lot of similarities with families in court and with people in the industry and not caring about having a relation about— maybe sometimes you need to be silenced more because that might be bad for business if you're not on the same page and rooting for the same team and stuff like that. So I couldn't say that she knows anything, but I would imagine with all those resources and stuff like that, that somebody at some point said, wait a minute, is that such and such's daughter? You know, because she'll be in my mother's generation, not mine per se. But I find it odd too. It's a crazy coincidence.

I think that's why I bounced back.

Maybe it's against the blood, child. She couldn't go through it.

Yes. So born and raised in Houston, Beyoncé's cousin. We could clear that out. I know X is going to have a field day with this.

But, but you know what, I have posted Mama Tina and my grandmother Ethel. Their resemblance is uncanny. Literally look like twins.

I saw that picture.

I posted like my family tree. Other people have posted my family tree after Mama Tina put out her book, you know, uh, Matriarch and stuff like that. So, um, inadvertently they've told my story in a way, you know, and I've seen it online. So like I said, I don't get anything from it, it's just a fun fact. I think we all related to somebody. If we look old enough.

That's true. That's true. I could see that. Let me see. Maybe I'm related to Fantasia.

It might be.

Or Sanaa Lathan.

You look like a chocolate Sanaa.

Everybody say that. But during Love Basketball, the boys would come ask me, oh my God, I saw Love Basketball. You look just like her. And I'm like, what's your dusty-ass way of reading? Whatever. Anyway, but so what was childhood like for you?

Have you ever seen Mississippi Damned?

A long time ago. I don't remember movies that well.

Okay. Well, I kind of compare it to that movie. Mississippi Damned is about this young lady who has a promising future, but everyone in her family has a thing. They're growing up in this hard area, just trying to make it. All kinds of abuse, all kinds of different types of abuse going on. So I feel like there were a lot of good times and a lot of laughs and fun and shit like that. But it was rough. It was not easy. It was not for the faint of heart. And I'm grateful to still have my mind and like not be schizophrenic or something because I feel like going through and seeing a lot of the things I did and having to be the oldest sister, you know, and kind of step into a position of taking care of them or helping to take care of my brothers and be there for my grandmother and my grandfather and stuff like that. I don't think a lot of people could have done it and ended up halfway sane and have a life where, you know, they keeping up with their day-to-day stuff. Like, me even having my daughters past 5, I broke down and was like, I did it. Because in my family, children don't always get raised by their mother, or the mother gets on drugs, or life falls apart. They have to go get raised by their grandmother. So that was a generational curse for me, you know, to have my kids and to have them in a household under one roof with one man and, and to, you know, finish school and stuff like that. So I have successful family members, but I definitely made it through some shit. It was very rough.

I did say I was going to apologize publicly to you about mentioning that you did not have custody of your kids one time. And so I can't remember what the beef was about, but you know, I had said that and I did not think, I mean, yes, that's a nasty thing to say. There's no excuse for it. So I do apologize about that. And so I'm glad that you cleared that up. And so it happened. I know it was long ago, but when, you know, words and a person like me in my position, words, you know, they stick with you. Words actually have power. So, you know, if I, you know, not going to say that at the time, of course, obviously I said it, I meant it. But, you know, when you take a step back and you look at things and it's like, I had no reason to say that because I had no proof that you didn't. Raise your kids. You know, I got that from some random on the internet just to kind of blow back at you. And I can't even remember what we were arguing about. That was the crazy thing about it.

Well, I definitely appreciate that so much, you know, because you could have felt like, I'm not apologizing. So I definitely appreciate that. And, um, you live and you learn. And I say that in terms of, I didn't say a whole bunch of shit that people don't like. And sometimes you don't have the worst of intentions and you're just shooting the shit and it wasn't that deep for you. You didn't mean to cause whatever harm or whatever effect. So I can wholeheartedly accept it and move on. And I even said when you did say something online, it's dead now. Because all I wanted was acknowledgment for it.

Cheers to that. Cheers to that.

A lot of people want that. A lot of people have grown enough to just want acknowledgment and do want to move on. And some people want to have something to hold on to. So it was never nothing I wanted to hold on to. I just couldn't look my kids in the face and come and talk to you or move forward. But that's true.

They don't fuck with you. I don't fuck with them. They don't fuck with me.

I'm the same way about my kids. You know, so that's all. So it's not even— something to lose sleep over. It just was like, child, what? I was like, if y'all see my mama with my kids, call the police. They've been kidnapped. Because I wouldn't even have them go with her, you know?

You mentioned that your grandparents adopted you. What happened to where, like, you couldn't be raised by your mom and you had to be raised by your grandparents?

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Somebody stole two hard drives from Jada's house. So now we getting into why she's even more mad. Jada would watch at the houses. She had her laptop, she would stick her hard drive in, right? Boom. And hook it up to the TV and she could play whatever video she watching. So I'm seeing videos of her and Will and a bunch of other— some celebrities, everything. Cuz remember the last interview I told you, if you don't sue me, I'mma let people know who you been hitting with them dildos. And I said, if you don't sue, I'm going to sue. So I told you, being Muslim, whatever I say I'm going to do, that's what I'm going to do, period. And I gotta have evidence. So she's sitting down here watching, playing with herself, high as a kite, right? Not caring who's in the house, whether kids watching, nothing. She's in her own world. So that's how I was able to see the tapes. I saw them, and I saw some things that were unreal, and I saw celebrities on the team. I'm under penalty of perjury. If anything in here is a lie, my ass going to jail, period. Y'all know I don't play about my hydration or hygiene, especially when it comes to down there. And let me tell you, this Wet Kitty formula made by Officially Pleasure XO on Instagram is everything. It's odorless, plant-based, creamy. I like that it doesn't lock off your pH balance as well. It's actually pH balanced, if you get me, okay? So holla at Officially Pleasure XO on Instagram to copy you some. Like I said, they have this wonderful trio box, okay, that has 3 different types in here. I believe it's 2 clear, 1 creamy. It smells good, feels good, and it stays juicy without doing the most. I'll see you on the website.

Um, so my mother was a very pretty woman and you're gorgeous.

Thank you so much.

Um, she was going to school, going to CSU in Houston, and started to get in videos and on the scene with these rappers. And this is back in the '90s, so, um, like No Limit was big then, right out of Louisiana. Um, Friday was out, so like hanging out with, you know, Ice Cube or Laurence Tate, like those types of crews from Cali to Houston. And all kinds of other people just partying. And so she starts living fast and doing drugs and had already had so much trauma from her childhood that she had not dealt with that by the time she had me, it all just came to a head. And I'm in school one day, she tries to commit suicide. And they had been keeping it, they as in my aunt and maybe, I don't know who else knew, but I know my aunt knew. But she finally called their mom, my grandmother, like, hey, You need to get over here because it's now come to a head. She tried to commit suicide. And my grandmother came to our apartment. I got off the school bus. She said my hair wasn't combed. She said my clothes were disheveled, mismatched. I looked like somebody who wasn't being taken care of. And so my little nickname is Mia. She said, that day I saw you, I told your mama, Mia's coming with me. And so she took me to her house and that started the process of that back and forth. My mama did pretend to fight for a little while once my granny got serious and wanted to adopt us because you can get some benefits. So my mama had a baby daddy that wasn't even my brother's daddy fighting my granny, trying to keep some type of custody. And finally my granny said, "You need to stop and let these kids come with me so I can take care of them. Cut this shit out." And finally they found out that wasn't even his daddy, ended all of that shit. Okay. Yeah, they had a whole scheme. Had this man parading around like this was my brother's daddy and acting like they was living a particular way so that they could bring him into the household and try to look stable. And so we finally, my grandma fought and finally broke that shit down and told her, girl, you need to stop this. And so she finally got custody when my mama backed up enough and went and changed our names and moved forward. I was about maybe in 4th grade when it finally went through. So from 5 to whatever age that was, that was that back and forth. And then after that, you know—

How many siblings?

Um, I have 2 brothers from my mother.

Okay. And did she cut off— it sounds like your grandmother didn't cut access off to you, like, or keep your mom from seeing you guys. She just wanted to provide a stable home for you.

At first, um, she would try to let her come by and send letters and stuff. But then, child, my mom ended up going to jail. So she was gone for a long stint. And for a while, my granny did let the letters come in, and she would let me respond and have them. When it got to the point where I started to rebel against her, I'm starting to blame my granny. You the reason why my mama not here, you know? I'm trying to take this anger out on somebody. And I just think in her mind, it was doing more harm than good having her come in and out the way that she was. So at a point, she cut it off and it turned into, we couldn't even really talk about my mother, could not call her mama. We were to call her by her name. My granny said, even dogs have babies. I'm raising y'all. You going to call somebody mama, it's going to be me, not her. You know, you been got slapped across your face if she hear you, who you talking about? You know, so we had to cut it off and kind of—

And this was her daughter.

Yeah, her baby girl. Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah. But I think that she felt like we were another opportunity to maybe to do things right and to raise us up. And I'm so similar to my mother in some type of twisted way. I think my granny tried to beat her out of me. You know, anything I said a particular way, walked a particular way, or looked like I was in the mirror too long, anything, you know, like, mm-mm. And even in the way I critique myself, I might see a picture and say, "Oh, I look like a cow. Oh, I look like this." Because the first thing, like, I'm hearing is her critiquing something because she would say, "You don't need to be too full of yourself." You need to be humble. You need to bring it down a notch. Always being so afraid that I may go down that same path. So a lot of people hear a lot of what I went through and they don't understand how we can have a relationship. I think it's because intent, that matters. People love you how they know how. So she may not have done everything right, but she was there and she tried. And I don't question if there's love there. I just think she kind of throwed off like a lot of niggas are who needed better tools. You don't have to beat the shit out of somebody to get them to understand something.

Well, I mean, that was their love language back in the day. I got the shit beat out of me, stitch of course, switches, you know what I'm saying? Wooden spoons.

Okay.

Yeah. And sometimes I needed them ass whoopings. Okay.

I needed some, but not all of them.

Some of them I be like, I'll never forget my mama got me so good one day, boy, with them switches. Bitch, I had welts across my legs. She made me go get in cold water.

On top of it all.

On top of it all. I said, oh, she crazy. I said it to her. I was like, this bitch is crazy. Oh, you crazy. I hate you. You know what I'm saying? But I'm thankful for every ass whooping that I got. But you know, I think it shapes us in some way.

Absolutely.

You know, your father?

Girl, he was gone in the wind. He was— first of all, I didn't even know who my dad was for sure until more recently. If you ask my daddy's side of the family, they gonna say they not my side of the family, child. They don't know me. But I took a DNA test with my sister on that side. It came back 99.9. Oh, and okay, so I know that that's my dad. Um, he's dead now, but, um, him and my mother, the way it was told to me, she was dating his friend. He thought she was pretty. She said, child, you got some money? And I've asked her and she's, you know, I got to know her through these jail letters, child. So she says, "Well, you got some money? You know, I mean, you can talk to me. You can spend some money." They start their relationship, which is more transactional, not really rooted in love, and got pregnant with me. He said, "Girl, go get an abortion. I don't want no baby with you." And she says no. And so I think she came back and forth to visit him. He's from Port Arthur, which is a town in Texas. So it's maybe 2 hours away from Houston. And I think they would see each other, but I heard that he was really mean to her and that she just wanted a family and was happy, you know, to be having a baby and thought that maybe it would work out. And it didn't. He went into, he got drafted in football. So he was playing football and worried about that. So she tried to spring me on him at a family reunion he wasn't at when I was 2. And then she went on about her business and kind of gave up. And then per her own lifestyle, you know, got caught up in that. So by the time my granny went to adopt us, I don't even think she knew who to, you know, go to to ask, is this okay to With this. You know, um, there was nobody on my birth certificate but my mother, so it was fairly easy, you know, to go through with that. And I never got to meet him. He lived at a point like 15 minutes away from me, and I was prohibited from coming to his home. I was prohibited from going to family events. Um, I did speak to him and tell him, I think you're my dad, you know, when I went to college. And he said, how old are you? When's your birthday? And I told him. He said, I don't, I don't think the dates add up. I don't, I don't think I'm your dad. Mm.

How'd that make you feel?

I felt like he was dodging it. I said, well, let's just take a test, you know? And he was never open to doing that. His best friend was like, I'll take a test with you. I'll go to Morehead, whatever you want to do, I'll do it. I was like, I don't really think you're my dad though. I don't. I think that would be a waste of time. And ultimately I took the test with my sister and it came back, you know, that—

So he claimed her? Yeah.

OK. And then the rest, I have 3 brothers on that side and a sister.

Okay.

And you guys are close now? No, girl, because he was a pivotal person in their life. And because he did not stand up and say, this is my daughter and we're accepting her, even in death, they still follow behind him. And so they, I have a brother that told me, you're not my sister.

Oh, wow.

Yeah. When I went to him and I said, do you want to build a relationship? I gave him the DNA test. I was like, I just want to let you know, blah, blah, blah. He was like, girl, who you look like? I don't know you. You ain't my sister. Yeah, we got into it. I said, "Oh, you wouldn't have been such a bitch-ass nigga if you would've came up with me. You not finna talk to me like that." We went back and forth, so we don't have a relationship. And then I think my sister feels like she needs to choose, and it's hard for her. So I said, "Well, choose them." You know? So I said, "Moving forward then, then I don't have a daddy's side then. Then fuck y'all." That is crazy.

I couldn't imagine, like, you know, going through that, you know? Being rejected. I'm thankful that my siblings always like accepted me because I was a bastard child.

Okay.

You know, he was married.

Oh, so it was like a thing, like a big thing.

Yeah, but he was— it was like, it was— they were both young. My mom was young, dad was young, but he had her— he had another woman, my stepmom, pregnant and my mom pregnant, but he married my stepmom and was married to her for 30 years. And so she went on and got married to my— who I call my dad, John. Because that's who I know. They got married probably like a year after I was born. And, um, yeah, he, he popped back up when I was 12, and, you know, he been in the picture ever since. So, you know, I got 4 daddies.

That is a blessing.

My mom been married 3 times. Yeah, it's a blessing that my siblings— and one thing I would say, my dad did fight for my siblings to accept me because he got into— I'll never forget, he choked my brother up one day. My brother was like, what's she doing up over here? He was like, that's mine. And you gonna respect her. That's your fucking sister. Somebody play with her, you playing with me. And you need to play with them. You know what I'm saying? So like, I couldn't imagine like, I mean, did that hurt you? Like, you know?

Of course. But honestly, because I kind of expected it from that side because of my dealings with that side of the family. I was hoping it would be different. He had passed away. We had finally taken a test. So I thought that, okay, like we can move forward. And I always wanted a big sister for sure, or a sister period. And then my brothers are not like everybody else because my mother was on drugs and living hard. So I can't say why they turned out how they did because certain disorders you can't pinpoint. But I have a brother with spina bifida, which means that he was born with his spine exposed. And so he can't walk. He has like a shunt on his brain. He has a terminal illness. So he's always been like very sickly. He can talk, has a great personality and everything like that. He still has things that land him in the hospital. He's very, very sick. My other brother had a lot of developmental issues because my mother was on drugs while she was pregnant with him. So when I say they're different, they're not inadequate. And I love them very much. But I didn't have the same type of experience as you would have with brothers where y'all go to school together, y'all can run up and down the street, ride bikes, have those life experiences, you know, where they date and you get to chime in and give your opinion and stuff like that. No, it was always like take care of mode and make sure they're okay because health-wise they had different things going on. They learned differently. Than other people. So I thought when it came to my other side of the family, it would be easier. I thought that it would be more of, um, something I could fall into. I wasn't the oldest. My sister is older than me, and I'm kind of in the middle, and then it goes down. All the boys are younger than me. So I was like, okay, I don't have to be that person taking care of everybody and spearhead anything. Like, I can be the little sister for once. So I was very optimistic about it, but I've dealt with different rejections. In life, you know. When I was 13, I asked my mama, can you go to rehab? And she said, no, I'm not leaving my boyfriend. He been here for me, you know, so I can't do that. And to me, that was my ultimate rejection. So I feel like that shaped my life. Nothing is as bad as everyone over you—

the drugs, the boyfriend over you.

Yeah, and my brothers, they were there too. And my grandmother was there with me, and I begged. It was like my 13th birthday. And I said, I had skipped school with my husband now. And we up in the apartment trying to tongue kiss and dry hump. But when we got caught, I said, I was looking for my mama in Fifth Ward, trying to find out where she was. And my granny felt so bad, she said, I'm gonna take you to her so you can see. Ain't nobody keeping you from her and you can see how she's living. And so they messed around and took us to her. And I said, you know, Mama, will you go to rehab? And she said, no, I can't leave Zach. He's the only one that's been here for me. No. And it was the first time I even saw her with the effects of drugs on her. So I saw her broke down crying. I'm trying to accept who this person even is. And then she's telling me no. And then it's because of a shit. And I'm like, who is this person in front of me? But my point is just that by the time I got to my daddy and my brothers or anybody that feels like no, That rolls off my back. The no is easy because, you know, it's my mother. I love her so much.

So where's mom now?

She's doing better now. I had recently reconnected with her because we hadn't been talking. And so she's like trying to get on track. Like she's been battling this addiction. Let me see, my brother's at least 27, 28, about 28 years. It's her life. So she's trying and she's in a better spot right now. But, you know, it's an everyday, you know, kind of battle. So trying to learn who she is. I find myself kind of like studying her when I'm around her, trying to figure out like, oh, you do this like this. Oh, you like this. You like that. Oh, I like that too. That type of thing. But it's still steps because I feel like when you live a particular way, sometimes you don't realize how much you still hustling. Well, sometimes as a daughter, I feel like, are you trying to hustle me? Can we just talk and it not be about, can I have something or can you do this and that for me? So that's kind of where we are right now, trying to navigate her still needing stuff and wanting to ask, but me feeling like, look, I just want to be your daughter and I just want us to try to build something, you know, that feels real, that doesn't feel like it's transactional. So I'm trying with her. So we going to see.

Man, like, Millie, like, you know, we, me and you, we spend so much time on the internet talking about everybody else's life. That like, when you actually break it down and I'm hearing it, so I'm like, oh my God, like you've been through a lot.

Yeah. But that's why I feel like everybody go, because I'll tell you about all my shit, the shit that don't make no sense, stuff that people feel like it's embarrassing, they wouldn't tell nobody. I'll tell it because you can't shame me with shit I've come to peace with, you know? But that's why I give it up the way I do on everybody else, because we can talk about whatever you want to. You know? And some people don't understand. We come from hard places. You better find your voice, you know, where I come from, and use it and be loud. You gonna get rolled all over. You know, somebody might put their hands on you. Some people do a lot of things to you when you're meek.

So listen, I don't mean to, you know, sexualize you or anything like that, but like you mentioned, your husband was your boyfriend at 13 years old. You were dry humping him. Is this the only partner you've ever been with? No. Okay. I was going to say, damn. But you guys have known each other since childhood.

Yeah, I've known him since I was in 4th grade. He was my first little fake boyfriend. He was my first little tongue kiss. And then I didn't wait to have sex until we got married, but we waited till we were married to have sex with each other.

Well, okay. Well, how long have you guys been married?

13 years.

Wow. How many kids?

Um, we have two daughters. One is my baby girl with him. I had a daughter before we got married.

Okay, okay. And so everybody, Daddy is Daddy?

Exactly.

That's how it is with me. Like, that's my daddy.

Exactly. That's the only daddy that she knows since she was 9 months. We got married when she was like 9 months old.

Oh my God. So you guys are like childhood sweethearts, pretty much?

Yeah, pretty much.

Okay, okay. Tell us about him because nobody ever hears about him.

They call him gay child. What they be saying about him? I don't know, the stupidest shit.

But you tell us about him. Fuck what they say. They said Shake gay too.

They want every Black man to be gay and they want us to—

They gay.

If you have a man, it's a problem. He gay. If you don't have a man, you got a problem and can't get nobody to fuck.

Everybody's gay, okay?

Everybody's gay.

But you tell us about him.

He is a very smart, sweet, like gentle spirit, very laid back person. Okay. He the opposite of me, but he's still, he's from Third Ward in Houston, which is nice, but still urban. He grew up like on the rougher side. So he has that edge to him, which is, well, it even makes sense at all. But he's the opposite in every other way. So I feel like he balances me out, like patience and trying to slow down a little bit and be more reasonable. He's helped me to turn around that mindset of everybody's trying to do something to me. Because I always feel like, oh, what is that about? Or why did they say that? Or why was this like this? And he'll say, maybe from their perspective, they're not even thinking about you with that. So he helps me to be more reasonable, but I'm still queen bitch. Like I'm still, he likes that. Niggas love a crazy bitch.

I know that. I tell him all the time.

He like crazy.

I don't try to change. He like psychotic, toxic, drama-ass women, okay? So he loves what you do?

I think he loves that I'm doing something that makes me laugh. I don't think he likes people all up in his business, trying to be.

Because I don't see him on the internet at all.

I done pulled his ass.

You did?

Get the hell off. Get off of there. You know, he's a personal trainer now.

Oh, okay.

He went to the Army, and then what he does now is personal training. He was trying to train people, child. They on the streams too, taking clips and putting it online. And I said, you can't do that no more. Or if you're gonna do it, you need to dress like this. Your hair needs to be cut. Like, because everything you do, they gonna put this shit on me.

It's a reflection. Yeah, I'll be doing stuff like that. I'm like, baby, haircut time. Come on, right?

And he the type of person, he want to wear a little fro and shit. And, um, he end up looking like Malcolm X. He put on them glasses and shit. I'm like, baby, look, he light-skinned. He think he is. He like a little caramel skin tone, some little hazel eyes. Okay, handsome. So, okay, I'm like, child, if that's what you want to do, it needs to look a certain way. So he's like, fuck it. Then he's sitting up playing his game, trying to enjoy his game. They on his damn game talking to him. So he had to make that more private. So I don't think he loves what I do per se, but I think he likes that it makes me happy and that I'm able to connect with people and what's like come from it. Um, not the negative shit, but Yeah, I think it's some pros and cons.

Well, I mean, it feeds the household.

I know he like that.

See?

Exactly.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Okay, okay.

You know, he's encouraging, but he doesn't give a damn. He don't know what I be talking about. He don't know these people's business. He don't know what's going on with what. He's not sitting up on Instagram, so.

You know what I like?

What you like?

He ain't out here embarrassing you, humiliating you. He ain't arguing with no other bitches. Babies, babies, all babies born in the same year.

That's because I done went to the job and had to act a goddamn fool. Now he done did some shit before. Thank God we wasn't where we are now.

But it ain't in public though.

Right. I'm glad that we where we are now because—

So you done had to pull up on him at the job, child?

Girl, I pulled up like a bat out of hell, was in waiting, in hiding. Waiting on the car to come by. I didn't pull out. I didn't even know a rage could come over you like that. So I then pulled out, stopped the car, hopped out with a pipe, girl, and acted a goddamn fool. They had to call the police, girl. I had to get up out of there. Acted a fucking fool.

Why would you do that to that man? What did he do?

Down there. You go to work, go to work.

One thing niggas gonna do is gonna fuck.

They gonna find somebody to fuck.

They gonna find somebody to fuck, you know? As long as they can get away with that shit. But, you know, yeah, he came back to the house, didn't he? Yeah, because ain't no way nowhere for him to go.

That's how they do it. You gotta come right back here.

Yeah, listen, I'd have been there, done that, child. Me and Shaq been married 20 years.

That's a blessing.

And then people think they ain't been through no shit.

Everybody goes through something.

Everybody goes through shit. That's why I'm like, y'all can't hit me with my wine. I'll tell you first.

Exactly. You know, keep it pushing and go smile.

Absolutely. But the problem, we don't put people in our business, and he ain't out here embarrassing me, right? You know what I'm saying? Y'all ain't gonna never see no Hit the internet, talk about, oh, okay, I had no the fuck— wait, how?

It's so sad how people wait on stuff like that and they hope for things like that.

Yeah. And you know what's so funny is they think that me, like, people like me and you, we go look for shit like that. It's like, no, them hoes be in your DM, don't they?

They send you shit all day. And you would think a bitch would tell you thank you. Not for, you know, just blowing it up, but look, I got a job to do and this is a job and this, right. Now you know what's going on. What you mad at me for? Come be mad at this shit.

You know how many wives I've hit from behind the scenes to be like, hey, we about to go live. I want to prepare you for it. This is coming out. Sometimes they're accepted. Sometimes, oh, I'm going to sue you because they don't want the embarrassment behind it. You know, like John Gray's wife. I talk about that all the time. You know, I'm like, girl, he's on live talking about you don't cook. And he's sending $50 to other girls, talking about making some roast beef and crab legs. And the fact that he would even sabotage his entire church, marriage, and everything for some crab legs.

It's psychotic. And you don't want to know that.

Yes. And then I saw the videos of his micropenis. You know what I'm saying?

The audacity.

Yeah. Just, it's like, and to think that I would go look for stuff like that.

Right. Who want Arthur to wake up thinking about John Gray?

Nobody.

Sexual activities.

Nobody. Not even his wife.

Okay, literally.

So what did you do before you started blogging? What was your, what was your job?

I've never had a like real job.

Shout out to the husband.

Um, okay, before I went to college, I worked at Walmart like as a cashier just to make some summer money. Um, and then I worked at like a call center in college for a little while. I got fired from there. I'm talking shit about the damn supervisor. She done walked up on me. I'm having blogging before it was blogging, child. She didn't hurt me and let me go. And so that was my last real job. And, um, I got married at 19 and my husband was in the Army. So, um, I just went to college and I had my daughter. So I was just raising my babies, honestly, and going to school.

Wow. Wow. So yeah, you guys have been through a lot. I could tell because you, you go through— you, you guys were married during the stage where you supposed to be fucking other people.

Okay.

Like, that's what happens, you know what I'm saying?

So young, right?

Yeah. Yeah. What do you love about him?

I love— I think I love his optimism the most because his world wasn't as dark as mine. Even though he's been through some things himself, as everyone has, I love the way that he's able to look at things in a more trusting way and be more open and receptive to life and experiences, which helps me to realize that, you know, there are good people in the world. There are good things that you can have. Experiences that you can enjoy. So I think that's the thing that I love the most, that he's just really free and open in that way. Because you can have another nigga that'll have you down in the dumps feeling like everybody's against you and try to control you or manipulate you in a particular type of way. And I don't feel like he tries to do that. I feel like he's— the way I talk, y'all would've came and knocked me upside the fucking head about some of the shit that I be saying. So I feel like he lets me, not lets, because I mean, he couldn't control me, but He allows for me to be me and he's accepting of who that person is enough to say, "Do your thing, because I know who you are. You're going to reel this shit back in and you're going to handle business." Does he get jealous with the male, I don't know, your male colleagues?

You hanging around Tory Lanez and his family and stuff like that, bring your ass in this motherfucking house. Especially if they've dipped out, they think that now you got access to like niggas with money.

I think that situations have been really difficult, like the Tory Lanez thing, only because who he is and so many people who asserted that we had a sexual relationship.

Yeah. I thought y'all did.

Previously, I feel like it's been I call myself a sex icon. I touch my titties. I'm sitting up doing all kind of shit. I may talk about sex. I've been and said some of anything. So I think he's more used to that. But I think by the time we got to me covering that case and I really had— I went to that trial, I really was fighting for what I believed in in that case. A lot of people misconstrued that with maybe it's something going on between them because why the hell is she defending him or that situation? So much. And, um, I do think it had a particular impact, like, in my household and in my day-to-day, because people would literally send that stuff to him and say, oh, look at that. They would send him pictures, they would send him, um, little messages, and you know that they— and you know that they doing this and that. Like, they would tell him I was having sex with him, or say I was having sex with other people. They'll throw other names into it as well, but they, they would say that that's what was happening. So I feel like when brought it to me and he like, you know, look at this before, you know, I tell him, don't, don't be start showing me that shit. Don't even make this a thing because then you finna start going crazy in your head. We don't want to entertain nonsense. Like, I'll talk to you about it. I'm not gonna talk to a nigga 3 times about the same shit. If I said that's not what it is, don't keep on asking me. You got something tangible, then bring it to me if you want to talk about it, but I'm not gonna be going over this shit over and over again. So I do feel like it got difficult because if somebody feels the need to come bring something to you and ask you about it, they've thought enough about it. When I'm looking at a nigga face, even coming to his wife to show me that somebody said that I'm having sex with this next nigga. No, I don't think he liked that at all. And I think it caused some tension at times for certain. But child, he be listening to his songs and stuff in the car, so.

What songs?

Oh, Tory Lanez song? Yeah.

So shit.

I think, yeah, right. Yeah, he ain't going nowhere yet.

And where he gonna go?

Where he gonna go?

Okay. Yeah, so I was wondering, because I'm like, you're a beautiful woman. You know, you're very outspoken. And you know, he is a conservative dad. You know, that's considered conservative where you take care of your family, you work, your wife doesn't have to work. That is a very conservative lifestyle. And then you're out here and you know, Raw Ali, you know. You know, she out here, she's a madam.

They done been calling her madam for so long, and there's so many different accusations.

The girls hit me that was with Iman Shumpert during that whole police—

Oh yes, yes.

That was the girl who worked for Raw. That's how Really?

I did not know that. I saw the story, but I did not know that connection.

Rob sent the girl up over there. He wanted a threesome. He was trying to set it up and they call Rob when they need bitches. Everything's alleged. Even my name's alleged.

And you know, people, they'll think you doing certain things too. You know, when you, depending upon the company that you keep.

So, I mean, you know, Richard Lomas tells all her business. He just, he tells everything.

I don't know what happened between him and Raleigh, but I was a casualty of war in that. He done threw me under the bus and called me all kinds of bitches and hoes. I'm like, I thought we was cool.

You know how them gay boys can be. They get real extra for no reason at all.

And you become the worst bitch in the world. Yes. So I know he said a lot about her and me.

What'd you think about working with Raw?

I ultimately feel like she ended it because that was her being honest with herself about the show itself. She came to me one day.

What was the honesty about the show?

Well, she came to me and she said, I don't give a fuck about what these other people are doing. I don't want to do commentary. And I get up dreading doing this show every week. And I felt like it feels like it.

You think that was the real reason or the fact that nobody was watching? Because I felt like when you you joined, it got popping.

I feel like it was multiple things. Um, I feel like she did have a lack of interest in it because I feel like Rob wanted to live a certain lifestyle and wanted that to be what people latched on to. Not talking about other people being the actual content. I feel like that's the type of conversation that she wants to have. But, um, I think she had a disinterest in a lot of different things. I didn't always agree with some of the attention that would be given to certain things if it was a personal matter, like her personal issue with Ahrii Fletcher, where we got to a point where we're recording one day on air and she said, you know, fuck your son. That's Ahrii's son. And I said, not fuck the baby. We're on phones. I'm not even sitting with her. And I'm like, not fuck the baby. Yeah, fuck him. And then had posted a video and was mocking Ahrii in a domestic issue with G Herbo. Where I felt like I had to go back on my platform and say, I don't think that that's funny because I'm sitting alongside her already beating child. What if she send me somewhere and this bitch want to fight me because of something you said, you know? Or I remember when she was going at it with Cardi and they sent threats while I'm in the building that we film in. They done told the location of the building saying they on their way. I'm looking out the window like, am I finna have to try to fight these damn bitches? Like, what the fuck is going on? You can become, you know, per proximity, a part of certain things. So you had to think about that to a certain degree. But ultimately, towards the end, there were a lot of people who said, well, I like Milly and this show is boring. And we already talked about this on Milly's show. I think that stuff started to get to her because she started reading it out loud on the show. And I would be like, why would you read a comment that's coming at you and being divisive towards us? I do think that stuff started to bother her in a way. And when we couldn't come back and give like a farewell and say goodbye, I haven't heard from her since she said, I don't want to do the show no more. And that's been years ago.

So people assume that there was some type of beef as to why the show wasn't there anymore. That's why you guys should have said a farewell.

Yeah, we talked about that and we were supposed to and it just never happened. I said nothing happened between us, so we should make sure we say thank you to the people that supported. And just end it positively. And she said, okay, I'll get the producer to come up with something. I've never heard from her again in my life. And I had been on that show for years, so I just felt like it was like, fuck you, girl. But she did help me to get my station head connection, so I've always been so grateful for that because my YouTube has not been monetized. So I'm somebody like—

Even still to this day?

I just tried to turn it back on to see what the hell they talking about because everything that's going on.

What they saying?

Um, you know, they got to go through those videos and see like if they'll pay something on them or something. But I haven't had a monetized channel. I've had Twitch, which is subscriber-based, but because I had a contract, I was like, okay, I'll just do my contract and I can do my content how I want to. Lost my contract in the midst of, um, this legal situation that I was going through. So it's like, okay, deep breath, and like recensor and just Work, get to work and then figure it the fuck out.

Do you have a Patreon?

Yeah, but look, I need to figure out, I need to sit down and plan and get dead ass, get for real about what it is that I'm going to do and where I'm going to put it because the people have been so supportive that they've kept me up. But I think that now it's at a point like, okay, well, where are you going with this shit? What are you going to do? So I think that's where I got to come in and be like, look, you're going to have to let somebody in. You're going to have to trust somebody and get some help. I do everything by myself.

Yeah. And you've been doing this a lot. How many years now?

Over 5 years. Closer to 10 than 5.

Because I was like, I've been in the game on YouTube like 10 years. And I remember there was a white boy that came to me. He was like, you getting all these views. You should be monetized. I was like, ah, I'll wait till I get like 100,000 followers. I think at the time it was like 10,000 followers. And he had got me monetized. And thankfully, I've never lost my monetization or anything like that. But you know what I do is I censor the stuff that's on YouTube, and then I take the uncensored stuff to tashakelive.com.

Okay, so I get the best of both worlds.

So I don't cuss as much, you know. Like, we just did an interview with Ray Face, Masika's, uh, and she was in there cussing up a storm, and Jasmine didn't like cut the damn F's out. And I'm looking at Jasmine like She said F word and pussy and dick every damn second. Now we finna work for free. Like, I hate that shit. Like, you should have said, Tasha, we need to take this to TashaKLive.com. So like, you know, I do feel like your show needs to be optimized.

And I've been more, not green, but I do enjoy connecting with the people and talking to the people on the level that we do. But it's like, look here.

That's what I got LatashaKebeRinaKebe.com for. I get to be me. I can be like, bitch, I'm on the porch, you know? But like, on top of that, you gotta handle business. You gotta have— and I think now is the time to really take that seriously, even if you have to start another channel.

Okay.

And build from there.

Yeah, because I'm— you can type in every letter of my name and still not find my shit.

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I've had the same subscribers for I don't know how many years. Like, my shit just sits.

Yeah.

I think by the time—

So you need 2 shows. And I can show you how to break that down so you can get it. And then you send them over to the Patreon and say, we're discussing this over here. This is our private stuff. This is how much it is. And we'll talk about this stuff here because I can say it without it getting too controversial to the point where YouTube will demonetize it, right? You know what I'm saying? And then you can pipe that through Facebook, through X, through all the other platforms, and use all of those mediums to funnel everybody back to your private site, right?

That makes sense.

Yes, but you do need some help. You got to hire somebody. Yeah, I would prefer a Black woman or a heterosexual Black man. The gay men can get mad at me all I want, but You've seen my history with gay Black men on social media.

And I have now, I mean, been betrayed in the worst way. Somebody I used to be friends with. Ooh. Child got up on the damn stand against me, lied on me in federal court. You know, I've had some—

Wasn't that one of your moderators or something like that?

Oh, for them YouTube, yeah.

Yeah, see, that's why, you know what? And I don't care if any of the gay Black men get upset with me. There are some that protect us, right? Of course. But then there are some that are out to tear us the fuck down and it doesn't make any sense.

Where there's this like hatred, you know?

Underlying hatred.

Right.

Those are usually the ones that kiss up to you. Oh, I need your help. Help me.

Right. Oh, I believe in you. Right.

Yeah.

That's how this person came to me. Somebody was supposed to be so helpful and love me so much and saw so much for me and ended up talking about they want to throw acid in my face. And child was on the stand lying on me. I was sitting in court just crying because I couldn't believe like this person would do this to me. So I'm gonna have to open up and let some people in. I think they will. Yeah, just do heterosexual men or Black women.

Black women, it don't matter what the LGBT— the LG— the lesbians, you know, they don't care. They'll protect you, you know what I'm saying? But the, the gay— how can I put it? Like, they think they the head in charge, you know, type men like Ski Wiggins. You know, I call them ski wiggles for a reason.

You're talking about Armand? We have a little cousin.

Mm-hmm.

You get on my damn nerves, but I still feel like I like you type of relationship. He came to court. I felt like he was unbiased.

He was rooting for you. I did get my updates from him. Yeah. I know he's upset with me because he thought that we made up, but I said, but you never apologized.

Okay.

You understand what I'm saying? Like, you did all that capping to get into a circle, and still Kim Barbie was chosen over you, right? And now that you see how the industry works, and now it gets on this platform and he's like, oh, I, I should have understood what Tasha K was doing. She was like, F these celebrities, and, and focused on her business. It wasn't— it was like, like, I was like, these celebrities— it had nothing to do with that. It was like These celebrities know my business, and I'm not out to disrespect them. I have relationships with them. And when stories come out, they can't comment on them, but they're not going to oppress me when it comes to what I want to say about it. So that's why I keep it separate. Don't go to their parties. I don't have friendships with them. I don't give a damn who they are, you know? And so, but with him, like, to see him come out and his verbiage had changed because he was like, she really came up, like, She won. Like, I thought, you know, he was rooting for my platform to get taken and branded me as a liar. That's one thing I gotta say about you. You never ever branded my platform as a liar. Like, you've always been very, very truthful about what happened in my case, and I love that about you. But for him, he had this disdain towards me because I helped him. But then when I saw him throwing shade at me saying that I was stealing from him, all this stuff. And I had never met this guy. I had known him like all of like maybe 2 months.

Yeah.

And I'm helping him, sharing his stuff. And everyone knows he had all of 500 subscribers until I start sharing him and getting him in a circle and sending my audience over there. And then you thought you was going to come and disrespect me. Once you show me who you are, I believe you. And please don't— please don't unfollow me. Please don't do this. Don't do that. And so ever since then, when I did that, And he was saying I stole a Dr. Sebi interview from him. I said, how can I steal an interview from you? First of all, you don't interview people. And second of all, I sent Dr. Sebi's people to you. I would give him, once they were done interviewing with me, I would give him, like, go sit with him to help build his platform. But anybody that does an interview with me, you can't talk to nobody until my interview goes up first. That's how it works. But he took that narrative and ran with it for for so long, and then, oh, she's a liar, they're gonna take her platform, she needs it taken down, and stuff like that. And now to see him flip it— and I never thought I would call you out of all people, but, you know, where, where did you get the Nicki Minaj story from? Like, you know, being all butter butter. And I would say, I would never give him my number. He, he hit my assistant. I was like, I would never give you my personal number. I know what you do. I know how you get down, you know. And so, um, I just, with him, I would say personally be careful because you just never know what you're going to get. And he is an extreme opportunist.

I think that it's so, you have to go through things and get to that other side to really know what you know and choose how you're going to navigate. And you do look at people differently from what you've heard once you do get to encounter them after you've seen, you know, different things. Because, um, we didn't get along online. I felt like we met and had good chemistry, and I know he gonna feel like we got up here and was talking down on him, but to be honest and just to be thorough with the way I've talked about it, I felt like he chose Cardi over me. I feel like he threw me under the bus when it came to trying to move forward with her. Um, I've said that publicly, and that's where we like weren't seeing eye to eye, where I feel like when it was convenient to used me, you know, you just tossed me to the side.

That's exactly what happened.

That's how I felt.

That's what happened with us.

Yeah. And that's been the only thing. It's like, I like you and I think that, you know, you're a cool person and I know we could get along under certain circumstances. But when it comes to what you want out of certain situations, you show me you from Hollywood. Then that's why I call him a Hollywood nigga. And I say, when I try to describe where we miss each other at, I'm a hood bitch, that Hollywood shit, and us being able or not being able to just be on the same page at all times and feeling like you will discard me for somebody else if they're more popular, more this or that, that is just where we're just with each other.

Literally. Well, I don't like him. And I don't like some of his work. When he's in his flow, he does very well. Like with the Diddy trial, he did well because he didn't have no relationships in there. I feel like when he's not attached to anybody, that's when he does his best work. But if he has some sort of formal attachment to anybody that's involved, he is going to lean more to their side.

Okay.

Okay. I feel like he can't stand, like he doesn't like the fact that people will not like him based off of, you know, his opinion. So he's a people pleaser.

Yeah, I think so. And I think when he doesn't get what he wants from something. Because we had a situation where I didn't respond to him in, in a timely fashion, I guess. Child, he didn't damn near rip my head off. So I'm just like, I feel like when you think you're not getting your way, or when maybe you feel like, um, you've been rejected in a particular type of way, that whatever he's been dealing with, whatever he's dealt with in life, that comes out and he gets very vicious.

So very—

I think he's really talented. Um, I hope he achieves all his dreams, and I feel like I feel like we would be great if he was born somewhere else, like had been raised somewhere like down south or something like that. I feel like the lights is in his eyes. Well, fuck everybody else.

You can't say, and I've heard him say this on live, I'm famous, I'm influential. I'm like, well, who told you you were famous? Not to knock down on him, but like, I wish I would sit up and tell somebody I'm famous. Do you know how detached you are from reality to say You can't say that you're famous. The public, right? That is for the public to say, right, that you're famous. But because he is so hell-bent on being main character, it gets in the way of his work. And that's what I told him when I first met him. You are talented. You have the it factor. But if you don't self-develop and, and kill that ego, yeah, you're gonna kill your career.

Yeah.

So my thing is like, yeah, I just, you know, I've seen him and you've tried to mediate for me and him and a lot of people are trying to get it. And I got a lot of slack in that because people saw him online crying about me so much for so long. It was like, she must be a terrible person. Why won't she come out here and say anything? And I'm like, for what? What am I going to say? Right. He's done this to Jason Lee. TS Man Hands, Jessica Kahinor, and Jessica Kahinor is a trans woman, by the way. So don't be out here talking about I don't like trans women. Flay Monroe, that's my bitch. But I just don't deal with TS Man Hands. But for the most part, for what you and I do, I feel like they want that position. They want to be the female. They want to be liked by females, and sometimes they get a little help themselves. And, you know, calling me a bitch, I'm not your bitch.

Yeah, it gets really, really touchy because, um, we went at it one time and he told me that I was being dramatic, but he was, um, in Houston and doing different things. He was like, I'm down here and I don't see you, they ain't heard of you.

I think I remember that.

I took that like, nigga, you looking for me? Do I need to get a weapon or something? Like, nigga, what's going on with you? Like, where sometimes you don't know how to receive him because, um, he can be very obnoxious and like flamboyant. Very main character, you know, syndrome. Yeah. Um, I don't think he means any harm. I just think he wants to be in a certain place in life.

He real scary. He real scary.

Willing to do whatever it takes.

The way he been running from— what's the name? The guy named Donut.

Oh, I saw something about like a restraining order online. I was here to rock you. I'm like, what the hell is going on with him?

As much shit as he be talking online, Ski Wiggins left your trial to go file a restraining order on another YouTuber.

I saw that restraining order and they got to go back to court to see what they going to do with it. But I'm just confused as to what the hell, like, how the fuck did we get here?

I don't know, but I feel like if it was a woman, he would be online, da da da. But he don't have that same energy for a man. I feel like he argues with a woman because he knows physically we can't beat him. Okay. But we will verbally get him and we'll have to get a bitch before him. But if our bitches came for him, he would be down there at the courthouse running to get a restraining order because he really thinks that he's one of us.

To be fair, I've publicly said I don't like that. That I don't like that. I've seen celebrities come at him, threaten him, dox him, all kinds of things. And his energy has been very light. But I feel like when it comes to us as Black women, or when he gets upset, you know, that we are everything up under the sun. And I've said, you know, don't say nothing else to a Black woman because this is not the energy you gave to such and such. And I don't fuck with that. So I think there's some different things he could take. And it's a lot of shit people can say about me that I need to fix. I do think sometimes he gets in his own way, and I think he severed some good relationships for some that did not mean him any good, that have turned out to be a slap in his face. I do. And if he would have given other parties, like maybe a me or you, more of that courtesy, more of that empathy, and more of that understanding, we would be in better places.

But I feel like that's only reserved for And I personally feel like, you know, because he doesn't know that when he's dragging us, like the relationships that we have with people, right? And people won't fuck with him based off of like, I've seen what you said, like I don't, and I rock with this person, that person. And I told him too, when he like, I don't fuck with Pissy Lee, but Pissy Lee did put Ski Wiggins in a lot of rooms that he would have never got into. Put him right beside Kanye West, put him, put him in a lot of spaces. And when I saw him burning that man's book, book, crying on live. I said, listen, I know Pissy Lee is not the best person, I get it, but obviously he saw something in you that he liked and put you in his room. Regardless of how— you should just take it on the chin and be like, you know what, he did me wrong. But for him to go live and trash that man and burn his book, I'm like, you know how many industry people he is? And you could be slated to be the next Pissy Lee. Right. You know, but instead you show out like a 2-year-old child every time. And I don't even like Pissy Lee, but I was like, that was disrespectful because nobody saw him doing anything to you. But everybody saw how you responded to him based off of something personally that happened between y'all that wasn't public.

And that is literally why no one has ever heard me say anything negative about Rah. Because when it's all said and done, that was an opportunity for me. She helped to give me to another avenue, and I feel like I have to respect her for that. And I have to— she is not coming at me a particular type of way.

So, as you said, and, and I respect that.

Yeah.

And so my thing is, like, I tell everybody, like, this ain't high school for me, you know. You— who you got beef with, that's between you and that person, you know what I'm saying? And vice versa with me. I ain't never liked her. I ain't never liked Rob. Rob knows, you know what I'm saying? And so when she decided to enter the chat to help to defend DeAndre, I know, here we go, to help DeAndre, I said, who called for you?

Right.

Nobody called. So I was like, now I'm finna get your ass, bitch. You done pulled up to the table when nobody talk about you, when a post says cease and desist of him trying to sue me whole time you done introduced the nigga to Nicki Minaj. That's your friend, I get it. You got a record and so does he.

And that's when you'll see how much people don't fuck with you. Because there have been times where, when I was with Onsite, that I felt like people were saying or doing things that maybe I've been a guest and we would have a conversation about it. And I don't feel like anybody ever came up and said, no, don't do that or don't say that. Would even delete the comment off of the blog, where I feel like it was, it was fine, you know, to go and do. So I think you, you learn a lot when you sit back and you kind of watch.

Like I said, build your own.

You have to build your own shit.

She bought them followers over there. You saw how it went from like 100,000 to a million overnight.

Shout out to the page.

Me, me and another, me and another blogger friend, we We was like, bitch, she was just at 132,000 last night. Why did she get to a million overnight? What happened?

I don't know. And if that's the blogger friend—

But that YouTube page is still sitting at 13,000.

I was going to say that that blogger friend, if that's the same one that I'm thinking about, I want him to let go of whatever he has that he is holding that I feel like is so close to his heart against me. I don't know what— I feel like I know what his thing is. I will set up a phone To let it go because it ain't nothing to hold on to.

I will— to me, I will set up a phone call. I know what you're talking about. We're not gonna say it back because I just don't want no issues.

Of course.

Yes. But I will make sure, like, we set up a phone call, and I promise you, everything that you want to do, everything you want to get off, he gonna— he gonna be like, no problem.

I just feel like it's about— sometimes you just have to connect with a person.

Yeah.

And I feel like People have their little attitudes and egos, and I don't know. I mean, you got to ask other people how you come off to them. I don't think I'm perfect, but I'll really be sitting up like, what is the fuck? Like, what the fuck did I do? I really don't be knowing. I said, I talk too much, or I don't know.

How did you start blogging though?

I fell into it, literally happenstance. Um, a friend had been watching reviews of like Love and Hip And they were like, I feel like, you know, you sitting up, you got the kids, you at home all day, you going to school, you need something to do. My husband was in the Army at the time. So I was in the house way more than what I would have been because we were at Fort Campbell up in Tennessee, a very slow place. And I really was in the house every day. And so they were like, you know, you talking all the time, go do a review. And so I went online to watch a few. I didn't even know what that was. And I was like, "I think I can do that." I started doing that and I've been doing it.

And it took off.

Literally. That's it. So I didn't even have plans or feel like that's what I wanted to do. I've just always been a ham, love the camera, been ready to go if I need to, been really animated and shit like that. So it just worked. But that's more reason why I be like, "What is the problem?" Because I'm just kicking shit. I get along with people. We be laughing and kiki-ing. So when I get online and people be mad at what I said, I be like, what the fuck did I say?

I know, I be trying to remember, like, I said that?

Right, like it sounds way worse. When they reframe it, it sound way worse than what I meant when I had that microphone.

I just sat down with the Gorilla Glue girl. She was like, you dog me, you drag me, you call me crazy, you call me an idiot. And I'm thinking in my head like, well, I mean, putting Gorilla Glue in your hair is pretty fucked up too. But you and Wendy Williams, y'all sent me into suicide. Then she starts talking about I was getting my ass beat. I said, no, no, no, no, no. just. I was shocked. What you like, bitch, why is you wearing a filter? You know, so many more things could have been solved if these celebrities would stop feeling like they're gods and they recognized us as humans like them, that they could come speak to and come talk to us. Just come and let me know. And they could still come talk to us still. Like, if I'm really Just like I was shocked with you, like, bitch, why is you wearing a filter?

You know, so many more things could have been solved if these celebrities would stop feeling like they're gods and they recognized us as humans like them that they could come speak to.

And come talk to us.

Just come and let me know.

And they can still come talk to us.

Still. Like, if I'm really hurting your feelings.

Please.

Just say something.

Say something.

And I'll ease the call. Let me know.

But don't come, bitch, I'ma do this, I'ma send my gang, I'ma do that, da da da. Then I'm like, who you talking to?

Oh, bitch, I wasn't even on there with you. I'm just doing this commentary.

Well, let me really piss you off. Like when Masika, when she was like, fuck you, suck my dick. I just, I brought her client on the show. I said, yeah, let me, he paid you for pussy. Let me bring a client on the show.

I'mma come at her.

But we can have a conversation. Like, I'm not forcing you to the table, but like, yeah, that was the, you know, that's the thing. Like, and I think as new media, shout out to, um, I don't give a damn what nobody said.

The judge and jury, they said it.

You won. You won. You won. Her purse cost more than that verdict. Let me get up.

It did. She had fancy Purses, clothes, hair done every day.

She looks great.

She looks great. She looks like a celebrity.

She did. And I didn't see no hotties up there.

I didn't either.

Down at the courthouse, not nobody. The cameras were more on you. You were on TMZ. And I said, look at Millie shooting. Shout out Tasha K, bitch. Yeah!

They wanted us to be into it so bad, I feel like. But I was like, no, that's a shout out, because I'm highlighting something Tasha K said.

I did. I was talking shit that day. I was talking shit. I was so mad. I was trying to get everything. I was like, this bitch better go down to the fucking bankruptcy court. I was like, goddamn it, Millie.

Okay.

I wanted you.

The people that sent it to me, they said, look, this is what Tasha K said you should do. And when you have all those different voices coming at you and you don't know which way to turn, and you are money talking, bullshit walk a mile. So when you are hoping and praying that people have your best interest at heart, out, you know, and trying to navigate it, it's really difficult to know what to do. And thank God for the attorneys I ended up with, because I was really on an island for a really long time trying to keep up with one of the most powerful law firms in the world. Yeah, so it was a lot.

They sucked.

I don't think that was money, Wilson.

They took that girl money, child. They took her money. They took her money. I said, ooh, they got her. They got her.

There were just so many different areas where I felt like there was room for improvement.

Room for improvement? She had my lawyers that I had during my trial.

If I would've had my people from the beginning, I think we wouldn't even have had a case if they would've had the appropriate time.

Yeah, I think they would've just got it knocked out.

You wouldn't have litigated at all. I think so. I think so. And I did feel like there was much to be desired hurt as I was going through that process and seeing the way that her side—

how does your husband react to approach things?

Um, he just went into supportive mode, which is just, look, it's gonna be okay, you know. And the biggest thing was, um, being away from my daughters. I've never been away from them for this extended period of time since they've been alive. So I was in Miami for like 3 weeks. I missed Thanksgiving for the first time in our lives, you know, with them. Um, because the case extended past that break. And when I say the shit had broke me, I mean broke, like broke. Every penny had to go to somebody into something. And I'm sitting in court relaying it to them. They was like, "Well, what did you do? Have your lawyers been paid?" I said, "Babe, I paid my rent. I bought some groceries. I got a flight. I got my ass to Miami, gave my lawyers what I had." I'm here hoping y'all don't take me for millions of dollars. Like, what are we doing? So I think that from his point of view, the most important thing was him making sure the girls were okay, because he knows that that was at the forefront of my mind. Like, are they taken care of? And when you come from a lot of trauma, you don't get with people thinking they'll harm your children. But I think you walk around feeling like nobody's going to protect them like you do and that you need to be there.

I hate that you went down there by yourself. I didn't even know that.

Yeah, I was solo dolo, head held high, having to just fight.

I would have died.

But I was able to trust that man with my daughters. I even texted him while I was there like, you don't understand the weight it takes off of me to know that my girls are safe. I don't have to worry about my daughters. They're eating. Nobody's messing with them. They're going to school. You're handling business. And I just get to focus on this. So he was just, you know, supportive messages and do what you need to do. Because I'm staying up late with my lawyers trying to figure out what our next move is and being a little paralegal, trying to be, you know, because child, they needed help. We had to work. They didn't have the same type of money and stuff to work with.

And they came on late in the case. So I'm sure you had to bring them up to speed on everything, but it helped a little bit.

One lawyer came in the Friday before we got started. One had come in two weeks before that. And then my main lawyer, like that summer, he came in. So they were way behind and then no money at a certain point. So they were working off the strength of, look, we believe in you. We come from the public defender's office where we, you know, have done this. We handle stuff like this. So we're going to stick it out with you.

A lot of accolades for them. I want to talk to them.

Everybody needs to talk to them.

They may have a job here.

Okay. They a dream team.

I keep a client.

Seriously, they are phenomenal. They really—

watch my lawyers. Oh no, oh no. Yes ma'am, you got to go.

Litigation to go around. Look, yes, yeah, since some cases— oh yeah, I just, I feel indebted. I wish I could hit the lotto and just give them everything that they deserve, you know, because they, they deserve to be paid. They deserve to be compensated.

Well, I already told you what you should do. I ain't gonna tell them on camera, you know. I just want you to move in silence. And yeah, handle your business and, and move on with your life. And if I were you, I would just start, uh, new channels and, you know, build it from here. You know, Millie, I'm always going to share you. I'm always going to post you. I'm always going to support you.

Well, thank you so much.

Um, because you are, you are a Black woman and a Black voice in this space that is needed to tell our story. Because a lot of times these images of women are put up, and this is the image of a Black woman that young boys are Right. You know, but because of voices like us, they don't get to get away and cosplay on our name, on our image.

Right.

And that's what they don't like.

That we are there and we can do that.

Yeah. And we can hold Black women accountable. And I felt like you held, in my opinion, Megan accountable. None of this would have happened if you would have been accountable for self. And I feel like she still, in my opinion, plays victim. My mama's not here. My daddy's not here. I was shot. Something happened to me. Even when I watched her documentary for the first time, right before your trial, something told me to watch it. 'Cause they told me I was in it. I didn't care, but I was on a plane. I had shit to do. So I was like, let me watch it. Normally when I'm on a plane, I get my best ideas on a plane. 'Cause the higher you go, the altitude you go, the easier it is for you to think. So just—

can I go clear my nose?

Yes, go ahead.

We—

and we have this too. Take it. Okay.

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You're talking about the documentary?

Yeah, yeah, I watched the documentary, and I— when I seen her say that she has— she went up— she, she— things had got so tough for her, she didn't grieve her mom. She went right back to work, right? And then, uh, you know, she had got shot, everything had happened. She's upset as to why Kelsey is choosing a man over her. And it's like, no, that's not what Kelsey was upset about. Like, I felt like it was just her, her, her, her, her. Kelsey has sacrificed herself to come help you when you didn't have your mom. And then the moment she gets sick, you start fucking Tory. Whether it was one time, whether it was two times, this is my opinion. This is not you. Because I know you got your own legal issues to deal with. But what I'm saying is, like, from what I gather, and her lying about the nature of the relationship with her and Tory, no, it was wrong. If he— yes, he was convicted. I still have my doubts on how the shot happened. That's my opinion. I just don't believe Tory did it. I feel like the only person that had motive to do it was Kelsey. That's my opinion, right? I don't have no concrete proof on that. But when she said that she needed to take a break and she booked herself this wellness retreat and was supposed to go for a week, but ended up staying a month at this high-end luxury wellness retreat. And when I saw that she was trying to put $240,000 worth of medical bills on you, I said, wait a minute, that's the wellness retreat fees.

Right. One of the biggest misconceptions, and it's really frustrating actually, is this idea that I hate women, I don't support women, and that I will go against a woman in the midst of her going through something traumatic and feel like, aha, to take up for a man. Like, that is the furthest thing from the truth. I've advocated for so many different women, everyday women, celebrity women, whoever I feel like needs to be advocated for.

Yeah, you've corrected me when I dragged some women. You like, Latasha, don't do that. Don't say that. I'm like, well, I said it.

And then I feel like we can't grow if we don't take a step back and say that it's possible that I added to this or did something that ultimately aided in me getting here. Somebody can do something to you and you could still, like I always use this example where a man had put his hands on me once. Before he got to me, I had called him all kinds of bitches and fuck you and this ain't your house. I had emasculated him, was talking to him crazy. He had had enough. He got up and came towards me. So it wasn't my fault he put his hands on me. That's him. But I did agitate him. I did press his buttons. I knew he didn't like that. And that's why I said it.

That's a real conversation. That's context.

Right. And that's all. And I feel like women have got to be able to do that. We cannot sit up and lean on, oh, I'm a woman and I'm this and I'm that and cry. And so many people made the situation about me defending like Tory, it's just about him. And because he's a celebrity, take up for him. He could have been anybody in this world. It's just the fact that I feel like, wait a minute, maybe we need to look at things a little bit differently. Like, maybe we shouldn't— not even maybe, I don't think we should throw people away and act like they're not worth anything, you know. That's what people I feel like have tried to do to me in my life. People that I grew up with, you know, they have discounted us or felt like like, you know, a mistake makes you this terrible person. And so if you don't think somebody did something, you know, on top of everything else, how am I attacking you or laughing at your pain or anything else? All I know how to do is protect women, you know. Um, it like makes me laugh almost because my mother, when I was growing up, was somebody who— niggas that put their hands on her as a child, I go stand in front of my mother. You know, a gun has been pulled on my mother you know, because she didn't have a nigga's money. And I was present and wanted to protect my mother. My first nature is to protect. So I don't have those issues where I feel like, you know, women are terrible and you deserve to be hurt and anything like that. Absolutely not. So that's something that's really frustrating because I feel like I'm on par with a lot of different ideas that people have. And that's how I ended up in that courtroom, you know. Standing up for something that I believed in, whereas everybody else felt like, shut up and protect Black women, but not you.

But you are a Black woman.

I might as well not be, because it feels like protect the Black women you like.

You are a Black woman.

I am. But where is that for people like us or for us on the other side? Like, even if you think I'm wrong, where is your grace or your empathy or the words of encouragement or trying to have a conversation? A lot of people that feel like we speak a particular way are right online doing the exact same thing, but they feel justified in it for whatever their reason is. But fuck how we feel about things and how we decide to express ourselves. It's very hypocritical. And I feel like until you get to a certain point, people feel like you're low level. Before we were established as new media, I was called a grifter. And that was a person who they felt like didn't deserve to be served with a cease and desist to be given the opportunity to retract something or to have a particular type of conversation.

And then because of that assumption is why the defamation is thrown out right now, but you were classified as new media.

And I feel like that's for not seeing us as people. We're subpar, you know, we're little in the grand scheme. And I just don't feel like that. And I feel like it's easy for me to speak how I do about celebrities because they're just people to me. They're not gods to me. And I feel like they bleed how we do. And sometimes they do shit just like your cousin up the street and they trifling just like them. So it's not personal. That's the other misconception that because we can get into what we're saying, that it's this personal thing we go to sleep with when it's just a job.

Let me ask you a question. I know this is a very hard, probably.

Okay.

It may be hard for you to answer.

Okay.

After everything has been said and done, you have, you know, um, you've got over the hard part. I feel like it was kind of like a humiliation ritual before the world, you know?

Yeah, yeah. I'd rather be in Illuminati now.

Welcome, welcome. Um, do you feel like if Do you feel like— and this is hard for me to say because I personally feel, in my opinion, Megan is a liar, right? She has lied. She's admitted that she lied. However, based on her story and her being without a mother, without a father, without really any family— and I'm happy now that she's linked up with Clay and the PR relationship has hit it off and they're real. Girl right now, you know. But I did have people from the label call and tell me that they are trying anything they can to save her because she needs something. What else does she have? The music is not selling. There's a lot of things going on. But I feel like every artist in their career hits those moments where there's a down. But then just like Glorilla hit it one time, they said she was done, and Glorilla came back popping.

I'm so happy for Glorilla. She was just in Billboard's Shout out to Glorilla.

And I feel like everybody has a down moment, and I feel like her story could be a moment for her to channel once she goes through the proper therapy. Not a wellness retreat, but therapy with a qualified psychologist, psychiatrist to help her to internalize, you know, being alone. Because I couldn't imagine being in her shoes. And you know, when you have, when you've lost like she's lost and don't have a mom, don't, and you're dependent and you're in this world by yourself, when you start to take on a facade and that facade becomes a lie, everything about you becomes a lie, then it's easy for you to verbally lie about certain things instead of telling yourself the truth. And I feel like Megan hasn't stepped into that, you know? Do you feel like any type of grace for her, or do you feel like she's warranted an apology, even though you know you didn't do anything personally wrong to her? Based off of everything that she says that you did to her. Even though, you know how it could be like, I didn't do anything to you, but somebody's saying, but it hurt me.

Yeah.

It hurt me regardless. And they just see it that you hurt me and I can't take no more hurt. Can you feel some type of empathy for Megan Pete? Not Megan Thee Stallion, that's a caricature, but Megan Pete based off of everything that she's lost and gone through and her being in her shoes now. You being a lot more mature than her, in my opinion, you have a family, you have kids, you know, you got a husband, you, you, you, you know, you're doing the damn thing. You, do you feel like if she wanted that, could you apologize to her?

I am so glad you asked me that question, and I do feel like I could apologize to her, um, and it would be very easy for me because when I have been doing commentary and doing my thing I was doing it on Megan Thee Stallion. And this is a person who was the Black Regina George who was in a film, A Bully. You know, this is someone who had been friends with people who were saying very mean things towards Kelce throughout the duration of, you know, the process of getting to trial. Um, this is someone who raps a particular type of way, who says, I'm from this part of town in Houston, and you know, this is how I give it up, and I fight, and you know, I do this, that, and the third. So putting out a certain type of energy where when I'm doing my commentary, or had been, I didn't think that I was coming at somebody in a way that they couldn't handle, per se. It wasn't personal for me. So there are some people that I feel like, like a Khloe Bailey, for example, her demeanor seems much more gentle. So when I do commentary on Khloe, I still say what I have to say, but I say it differently because I feel like of the way that she presents. You know, when I was doing commentary on Megan, I feel like this the South Park girl, that's the Regina George that's gonna bully something. Then I didn't feel like I needed to.

She tall.

She's saying it this way, you know? And kind of bossing up in a particular type of way with that type of energy. So regardless of what my intentions were, what you said that was so important was that has nothing to do with the way that somebody receives it. So when I was sitting in court as Mia and I'm watching this woman crying, saying I made her want to kill herself or that she's locking herself in rooms because T. Farris keep bringing the phone to her for whatever reason to show her. What I said. Um, I thought he should have been up there. I said on the stand, he needs to be up here for infliction of emotional distress. He don't want to keep on bringing it. Okay, but yeah, you know, when I'm hearing someone say these different things, I was in tears for her because considering what she has been through with those different losses and her saying it, if she was adding more to it, whatever, but those— that's never what I wanted to do. I never got up on a microphone with the intent of wanting her to go hurt herself or to make her feel like she didn't deserve to be on this planet or anything like that. It was not that for me. And I could be passionate about this art on the wall and I could go into, "Look at this bitch," and da da da, and somebody might hear it and think there's so much vitriol in it. But no, I'm just kicking it. You know, I guess I talk hard. I don't know. But I never meant to do that. And that's something that truly does bother me because because that's somebody in this world, you know? That is somebody's daughter. And even if she doesn't have kids or whatever else, that's somebody that matters. She's a human, so she matters. And that's never what I wanted to do. So that would be nothing for me. That's why I wish she would have said something or someone on her team would have made it clear that, no, this is actually hurting this person when you talk like this or when you dive into these topics. Like, can we stop? Can we pull back? Can we give you some clarity? Anything. And that would've been rectified 1,000%. I never sought to hurt her in that way ever in my life. So that was difficult to take in because you got so many people painting you as this monster that were doing these things against them. And it's like, no, that's not what it was for me. But she has a right to her feelings. And she says that those things hurt her feelings and it impacted her more than Drake and Nicki Minaj and shit. And I'm just sitting up like, Little old me?

Millie, you are a Black woman. You are a Black woman. Her mom's a Black woman. And you know when we speak.

And maybe the way I'm saying it, you know, I was raised by my grandma.

Girl, you Houston all the way with it. You know, it hit different because it's different coming from, you know, one of these political entertainment reporters. Like, Megan Thee Stallion, you know, was shot today by Tory Lanez. But you like, What the fuck you was doing in the car anyway, fighting and everything in there? And you was just on camera. It hits like it's your grandmama and you have disappointed them. And then, you know, when you get in trouble by your mama, it's like, and then she go tell your grandma, she go tell your aunties, and then everybody is on your ass and you don't want to face them. You don't want to hear that. So I was wondering, minus that whole caricature of an artist that that she built. Deep down, I know Megan is hurting. Who wouldn't be? But I feel like you guys have a lot in common. She doesn't have a mom. Your mom was not present for you. You guys are from the same city. You grew up together. So I feel like it was like maybe her homegirl or somebody that she probably really looked up to you at one point because your commentary is so fucking real. It's so dope. I said every day we need bloggers like you, period. If she— I don't know who wants to— my agent. Would you like to apologize?

Um, I don't have a problem apologizing. I just always want everything to be sincere. And they so crafty over there, child. I'm damn near scared to apologize. Are they going to take something I said, try to twist it, and try to make me liable for some Your egos are out the way. Yeah. Do you wanna apologize?

I would wanna say that I'm so sorry for any time that I said anything.

You want me to look at the camera? Like I'm looking at her. See, I feel like I don't wanna do nothing that she thinks is harassing.

No. Your egos are out the way.

Yeah.

Do you want to apologize?

I would want to say that I'm so sorry for any time that I said anything. You want me to look at the camera like I'm looking at her? See, I feel like I don't want to do nothing that she thinks is harassing.

No.

Or like she trying to talk to me, you know, or anything like that.

But it's Tasha K, and we're having a conversation. And if this is something that you want to get off your chest? Because you could have easily said no, right?

No, I don't feel like that. No, I don't at all. I feel like in court I saw somebody who was hurting and somebody who said, this is hurting me this way, I didn't even want to be on Earth. So those are things that impacted me. So I would absolutely say I'm so sorry for hurting your feelings the way that I did. That was never my intention. And, um, for any time that you felt like me standing up for what I believed in was a personal attack on you, That wasn't my aim. I think that it's difficult when you don't know what it's like. I talked to my mama through glass growing up, you know. I have family members or people that I've known who have gone to prison and just dealt with the law and did not get a fair shake. We don't always get that. So for me, it was just about standing up for something that I felt like was important, not necessarily to tear her down, but to ask questions and to say, well, what about this and what about that? So the highway to hell is paved with good intentions. That doesn't matter. I just never meant to hurt her in that way. And I hope that when it's all said and done, like, that at least resonates with her and that she can accept that and receive that because it was not personal for me. There's not one person outside of my sister that I have gotten on air and it's gotten personal for me where I felt like I really feel a way about you as a person. And I am— I mean, I'm angry with you.

Do you feel like if if no cameras involved, you and Megan could have a conversation about everything?

Um, I could have a conversation with her. I don't know what she would be willing to do. I don't know what her attitude towards something like that would be.

But as long as— you know how it is, like, you know how they say forgiveness is for yourself and not for others? You know what I'm saying? And so, um And I know a lot of people are going to say, "Well, Tasha, you've been through this too." And I've always said that it's a damn shame that we've spent a lot of money fighting with someone that I have never personally met.

Right. Right.

And that I would be honored to have a conversation off record, no cameras involved, without lawyers taking from the both of us, and that it was never my intention to hurt somebody. I'm gonna be myself. I'm gonna say what I want to say, but there are times where I can take it too far, and I have to be told, Tasha, bring that back. Yeah, this is a person, remember.

And I've done that too. Yeah, you know, and you have to just learn.

You gotta learn. And I take my L proudly. You know, humbly. And I always speak, and anybody knows this off camera, there's nothing I could say about, you know, the person who I went to court with, their motherhood. I'm not going to say, you know, she's a bad mother. I don't even know if she's a bad person because I don't know her. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Right. And it's a weird thing to be forever tied to a person that you don't know.

But I'm sure, like, based on our, um, the limelight that we're in, I'm sure that we would possibly, probably get along or have a mutual understanding if no one was involved in monetarily in profiting off of the beef.

Yeah, maybe. Other people think I don't like her either. And I tell them, I grew up, people told you about shit they wanted you to fix because they gave a damn.

So that's how I grew up.

So it's like, right? So to me, it'd just be like, we were raised differently, I guess, because what I'm doing is highlighting something I don't like. And if I didn't give a fuck, I wouldn't say anything. If I want you to be better, I'm trying to help you. Now, I may not say it in the nicest way, but that don't mean I hate you or this, that, and the third. I feel like maybe something you did was trifling or maybe like, girl, come on now.

The incident. And like, you know, and I'm not gonna lie, like I've cussed bitches out. Yo, I've cussed them out. But I promise you, I'm not, I ain't never been, you know, I done gotten in fights in high school, but I ain't never assaulted nobody. I ain't never. You know, put no hits out on nobody. My— I think my character speaks for itself when it comes to legally how I handle things. And I would rather have a conversation with someone, um, in a very mature way. And it has nothing to do with the money. I'm still gonna, you know, pay the money. But at the end of the day, I just feel like it's more profitable for us to be at odds.

Absolutely.

Just like it's profitable for the government in our communities to keep us poor than to see us, uh, succeed. And so, um, Millie, I just wanted to ask you that because I think a lot of people thought this interview was going to be us just— or you just laughing at the fact that—

right.

And I told you that's not what this is going to be about because, right, contrary to popular belief, it is very difficult going to court. Yeah. And you— me hearing that you didn't have you, you I was away from Lameen for 2 weeks. That was hard for me. He was a new— he was damn near a newborn, and I had to come to court. And I didn't know that. Yeah. And my husband— and I told him, stay back with the kids. He said, no, I'm gonna shoot, because they, they not gonna think that they can just play with you.

Yeah.

And he was there every day. He went home at night. I stayed downtown to work Atlanta, to work with my lawyers. But he, he drove an hour and a half to the house every day to go pick up the kids so they can have some stability. Yeah. And then every morning he would go drop the kids off at 5 AM and meet meet me in front of the courthouse and walk me in.

And that's love. That's a blessing.

Yeah, that's my baby daddy, 20 years. He can be gay, I don't care. But, um, and so like, you going through that, and I, I pray that, you know, regardless of what my opinion is of Megan, I, I don't hate her. I don't want to see nothing bad happen to her. I just want her to get in the studio and start making some fucking music. That's how we fell in That's how we started liking her. Like, that's how we started liking all the female rappers is like, just get in the studio and make some fucking music so we can forget about all this and we can party together. But all this extra shit, I feel like it's a distraction and easy for them to put their energy into this so that they don't have to focus on this, which is what they're supposed to be doing, which is entertaining the masses.

Right. And then we have something to do and we have families to feed.

Yes.

And it's so crazy to look up and see so many people that look like us be on a bandwagon of wanting us to be silenced or to not have our platforms and stuff like that. And I feel like there's something really dangerous happening in society right now and in our cultures and in what we do in our lane and celebrities where I think that people are getting empowered to try to stifle and shut down voices. And I think that that's really dangerous and people are not paying attention to the fact that We have to protect our First Amendment rights and we have to be able to ask questions and speak for ourselves. Like, you can't champion something because it's your favorite and not understand the full scope of those ramifications. And I think that's the biggest thing. And that was the biggest win to be acknowledged as new media, because do you understand that we now have to be met and treated the way that they would have to treat other people? So that we can't get looked over like that. and there's some people don't get it, but there's so many people that do.

You don't understand what you've done. So my case set bloggers back, right? I did not come to court prepared. I thought my lawyers had everything. I was like, holy shit. Wow. Hey, hey, hey. Every day it was something new. I was just like, holy shit.

Okay.

Um, and I took that out. I was just like, you know what? Let me just focus on what I came here to do. I didn't come here to argue and be in chaos. I have a gift, I have a passion. There's a lot of people, there's millions of people that pay me for that passion every day, right? And then, you know, there is— look, this wine done got me, girl. This might be my 5th interview today. 5th interview today. I had to save the best for last. Yeah, but, um, for the most part, it's like, at the end of the day, it's like we're doing what we what we love to do, what we have to do. Because before, we didn't have faces, people like us that were telling our stories. There were other people that didn't look like us, that didn't come up from the same hoods, that didn't see things, that didn't know how a Megan Peake grew up to be into a Megan Thee Stallion, or this person grew up to be into this person. Like, we could break that down and have them see that, whether it's a good characteristic or a bad characteristic about them. And I feel like, you know, your case helped what my case set back and reestablished everything.

Yeah, I could see that.

And balance— no, it's not— I see that they can't reference my case anymore. They have to reference your case, right? Because you, you made it even. You made it an even playing field for us. And I want to thank you for that.

Not the lawyers, child.

I want to thank you.

No, no, no, no.

I want to thank you for that because now it's not going to be, yeah, they may talk about historically the historic win that she got, but because now your case has set precedent over mine, they're going to refer to yours. Like, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. Whereas I couldn't even defend my case.

Right.

It was deemed prejudicial against her. Whereas you got to actually tell the story, right?

And say something.

Then say something. Yeah. And you know, with all the odds stacked against you, baby, I'll take a $59,000 verdict any day over $4 million.

They told me you gonna lose. There was so many people listening.

I said that because I was just like, listen, listen to me.

They told me, they said, there's no way you are going in there. Out against them and you're going to win. You're going to lose.

I know they're mad. I know they're mad. And I know they're mad. And that's for them personally. Because like they say, when you dig a grave for somebody, dig a grave for yourself. And so all that money down the drain, the only people that won in that situation were the lawyers. Right. And that's who was always leaving one in my situation. I'm looking at my lawyer like, I ain't got this money. So we're going to put you on the channel. What you want? How much promotion you want? Because I know.

Okay. Right.

Oh, so I want to thank you. And I'm even more excited to see what you got coming up. And you're not in this alone. I did tell you. That GoFundMe is ready?

Yeah. I just started a new GoFundMe. Give, Stay, and Go, child.

It's ready. How much you need?

What is— I think it's $60,000 at least.

Okay. Okay. Okay.

Why not?

Winos, we helped out Wendy Williams, right? With her legal fees, right? Did y'all? We did. We cleared it. Let me tell you how badass the Winos is, right? Let me tell you. Wendy went and sat with Charlamagne, somebody she put on.

Uh-huh.

He's her old, like, that's her protégé. Mm-hmm. Don Lemon. Oh, TMZ, everybody. They never posted her GoFundMe to help her. Retain a lawyer to get out of her conservatorship, but they monetized her in every single way. Never said, hey, go to Wendy's GoFundMe, and their audiences could have cleared it, right? I told the Winos, I said, when I saw that, I said, that's some bullshit. So I'm gonna be petty today because I like Wendy, but the way they played in her face on every single platform and made money off of her, and Charlamagne wouldn't even be in the seat that he was in had he would have not been Kevin Hunter's do-boy and set Kevin Hunter up with bitches so that he could be set up with his bitch Wendy to be the up-and-coming gossip queen. Not king, queen, because he's a fucking queen. Shout out to Damon Dash. Listen, I can't stand that nigga. Listen, I feel like, you know, when it— when When it came to that, I said, this is why we as Black women always get left behind, because we don't understand our worth and our value. And we see these platforms and we think they're on our side and they want to help us. So the Winos cleared, they cleared, they maxed it out. She had no choice but to come and say, after I know personally that Wendy has talked shit about what we've done, especially with us calling the hospital on Serena Williams and finding out she had a baby. I was like, girl, you got a stepbaby up here, Sharon. Out. Like, he stuffed her into the rehab and so she wouldn't get the news of the baby. It was all types of shit. And that's what really drove her over the edge. It was—

I believe so—

the breakdown of her marriage and the humiliation behind it. And the fact that she was paying all these motherfuckers and he took her money and bought another bitch a fucking car and house down the street.

That was disgusting.

And Wendy, had I would have known Wendy personally, oh, I would have rolled down on that bitch for her. Yeah, you see me, I tell you, see me at another house, help the bitch. I'm trying to tell you, help the bitch, help that bitch, they gonna need it. And so, you know, when I saw everything said and done and she was in the conservatorship and had lost everything, I was like, why these people didn't help her? So I said, why not? You know what, we're gonna be generous today, we're gonna help Wendy. And that was close to $100K.

I had no idea about this.

Yes, yes.

I literally, I had to start a campaign for my lawyers initially. And then I had to start another one for child after we didn't did the case.

All right. So let me do this real quick. So we get on average, let's say 100,000 views. Give me a second. Calculate it real quick. Because you know, you got to tell them in increments.

Okay.

So we get 100. So you got 60,000 divided by 100,000 people. That's literally a, that's not even 60 cents. Hold on for a second. Give me a second, child.

A dollar and a bowl of rice.

Hold on for a second. Divine, my simple thousands. That's a dollar and 60 cents.

It's a healthy amount.

Okay, so I need each wino right now to go to her, what is the name? It's going to be below this video. This video going straight to YouTube. We're not going to put it on LatashaKebe Live. To go right to the link below. And because you, you, you helped, she helped me out because now like when I go back to court with a celebrity, we get to reference your case. I'm happy to sit in court. Like, like, for real, like, what we finna do? Like, you know, um, that's $1.66.

Them last $2. A per—

that's $2. So can we round it up? $2 $2 per person to her, what's the name of it again?

It's a Gifts and Go campaign, New Media Rising.

It is linked below and I'm going to keep it up and I'm going to do it until we clear it.

Okay.

So every single show until we get $2 per person for you, we're going to make sure we clear these legal fees for you.

That is such a blessing.

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you so much.

No, thank you. Thank you. Okay. And with that being said, Milagro, where can they find you? Follow you?

Oh, okay. So on any platform— Kick, Twitch, um, YouTube— just search Milagro Grams. Um, on Instagram, um, New Media with 3 A's and an underscore. And then on Twitter, Milagro Press.

So, all right, $60K is all we need. $2 per person at 100,000 people.

$2.

$2, and I'm gonna run it because, I mean, I get that in video. So I'm just gonna make sure that until we cap out— and they know me, I'll run it until I'm like, hey, hey, hey, we need $30,000 more, $2 a person.

Yeah, let's go. And I'll even show Tasha like where it's at.

Yeah, no, I'm gonna take it and, and put it below. So like, listen, if you get more, great, great. More wine.

The way I didn't suck this up.

Yes, more wine, more wine. Listen, all right, no, We about to head on down and go support our sister Amanda Seales. She got a book signing down here in Houston. We gonna slide up in that bitch drunk already.

Okay.

Hearing about our history.

Yes, ma'am.

She's a brilliant woman.

I love it.

And look at that camera and say, now you gotta go.

And now I gotta go.

For now.

Listen to us. For now.

Bye.

For now.

Bye.

Cheers. Cheers.

Yes, girl. We gonna get that money. Mm-hmm.