Exclusive | My 27 Year Secret Relationship with Keith Sweat " I was Deceived & Controlled! "

We're going to break into lunch, um, as a team, and then victory is coming over them. All right, we're ready to go. Well, no, I need my wine. My wine glass. Shake took the glass. You told me not to drink. Oh, he went to wash it out. Okay, cool. All right, girl. There you go. You know, this is your platform. You say whatever the fuck you want to say. I ain't got no judgment here, girl.

I need to drink responsibly because he has a bad habit of taking people to court for miscellaneous reasons.

You know, I don't give a fuck, so I stay in court, child. I stay in court.

It's like, we ready to go.

Really? Yeah, girl, yeah. With these celebrities, child, they love going to court with me. Yeah, it's like taking me on a date. Listen, like, are we ready? All right, cool. All right, so we got Trina Gamble in the wine cellar. Yes, welcome all the way from Atlanta. You're already sipping. I need to go ahead and join with you because you have 27 years.

27 years.

Of wine to unwind between you and Keith Sweat.

Mr. Keith Sweat.

Make it last forever. Oh my God. All right, so here's the thing, here's the thing. When you wrote in, I told you I was at first a little skeptical about the story because I thought you were that woman that's been contacting us for years saying that she was in a relationship with Keith Sweat via Instagram. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, that's not real. Like, somebody's trolling you.

Yeah.

You know, but turns out you are his on and off girlfriend for 27 years.

27 years.

You guys never married.

Never married. And, you know, I kind of wanted to talk about that because, you know—

Cheers, first of all. Welcome. Welcome, baby. Welcome. Welcome.

I know.

You ain't got to be nervous, honey. I'm your girlfriend. We're in the wine cellar. It's happy hour. Let's go.

This is my first interview. I know. He stifled— my growth. And so, you know, he tried to keep me, you know, small. So this is me stepping out on my own, just kind of, you know, putting myself out there. And this is a new era.

So, well, congratulations for taking your independence back. So, because like I said, I never knew, like, nobody's ever came forward to say that they were with him. Nobody's ever said anything. Like, he usually leads a, I don't know, like a pretty private life when it comes to his love life. And so, but like, you've provided us videos of you backstage with him, like pictures together. Like, you guys have been together from what I see for a long time.

Long time.

Live together?

Long time. I've lived at his house before. So 2014 to 2018, we broke up for 6 years. And then we recently got back together in March of this year.

Okay.

Yes.

And so I guess that's why you're sitting here now. Yes. Like you've had enough. Enough.

So this is your fucking, I'm fucking dying Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm mourning. This is my— I want to say the start of my healing phase and mourning the end of a 27-year friendship, you know, unfortunately, you know what I mean? You have to care about some people from a distance.

So you just blowing up the whole fucking shit like, fuck this.

Yes.

Okay. Okay. I'm ready. I'm ready. So how did you guys meet?

We met at his concert in 1997. He brought me out on stage. He saw me, you know, in the audience.

Okay.

He brought me up on stage.

So how old were you at the time?

I was 17. I was 17. So, yeah.

How old was Keith?

40. And I didn't know his age for a long time, so I just found out, like, right now. People might think that he is, you know, younger than what he really is. So he's— he always told me, I believe he said he was born in 1962. Or in the '60s, but you know, I fucking love my child.

Oh my God, wait a minute. So you were 17, he was 40 at the time. What song came out in 1997? What was y'all dancing to at that time? Um, you know, what was his hit single then?

Was it Twisted? Twisted.

Oh shit.

Album.

Okay.

Yeah.

And so when he brought you up on stage, Uh, what happened after that?

After that? Yeah, we exchanged information and he flew me to Atlanta, and we've just kind of been off and on ever since.

So he was 40 sleeping with a 17-year-old? Oh, you just come out the gate with the shit. Oh my God. Oh wow.

Yeah, so I mean, and your mama let you go and shit like that?

I mean, like, what's your mama say? Yeah.

She was just, you know, she wasn't really around that much and she just gave me a lot of freedom. I was grown basically at 14, so I was just kind of out there, you know, hanging out with my friends and going to concerts and, you know, meeting people. And just, I guess, just when I was young, I didn't really think about it and, you know, just living life.

How did it feel to meet Keith Sweat and be sleeping with him at 17?

You know, when I first saw him at that concert, Backstage, he was kind of looking at me and laughing. You know, I thought, oh, he's not checking me out or anything like that. He's my parents' age, you know. I didn't find out about Keith Sweat until my mom gave me his CD. So, you know, it was just like—

Shots fired.

OK. You know what I mean? So it was just strange how he kind of was checking me out. Because when he brought me up on stage, that's how I knew, OK, yeah, he is. I guess shooting his shot, you know?

So, okay.

Yeah.

And so what city was this in again?

Houston.

Okay. All right. Shout out to Houston.

All right.

Yeah. We're going to be in Houston for New Year's Eve for our end of year winos party. And so tickets are on sale. Make sure y'all get those tickets and attend the New Year's Eve extravaganza in Houston. TashaKOnStage.com. We're going to have to bring you there, girl. Like, listen.

I would love to.

Hopefully, you know, no memories won't trigger you, you know? So you guys. So immediately, like, how fast did he, like, fly you out? Like, was it immediately?

It was immediately. It was, I want to say, um, maybe the next weekend, the following weekend. Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he knew you were 17?

He doesn't ask, and he likes them young. So the younger you are, the better for him. But he doesn't ask your age, and he doesn't really tell his age.

So age ain't number the number then.

Yes. So he could date a 16-year-old or meet a 16-year-old right now and like her and would never know her age because he doesn't ask, basically.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay. That's— I guess that's one way to stay out of trouble, you know? How was I supposed to know? We never talked about that. Yeah. Okay. So, um, all right. So immediately, and then was it immediately a relationship or was it a sexual relationship? Like, what was it? Were you guys— first met?

It was just kind of like we got together and one thing led to another, just like anybody else in a dating situation. Flying out, shopping, going to LA, doing music videos, and just kind of living life.

Okay.

Yeah, so, you know, just, he was so busy at the time, even more busier than he is right now. So, Yeah, just whenever we had time to spend together, we would spend time.

And did you eventually get around to talking about your age?

I did tell him, I think when I was 18.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right. So when you're 18, so he knew. If you turned around when you was 18, he met you when he was 16 or 17.

Yeah, when I was 17. And then I believe when I was about 18, I told her, I said, you know what? Do you even know how old I am? I said, I told him I was 18, you know, because I'm like, why does he keep calling me? It was just kind of like, I used to look at him like, what is he seeing in me? You know, it was just kind of strange. But I mean, he just kept calling. He didn't, he didn't—

And the shopping sprees were probably pretty nice, huh?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, cool. And so I guess you guys developed a liking for each other because you kept seeing each other. And so did you eventually— I take it you eventually fell in love with him?

You know what, um, we did. We, we did. Um, so I was 18 and, and he, you know, I didn't even know this, but I just recently, in 2014, I found out, um, when I first started dating him, he was still married. And I said, you didn't tell— I didn't know you were married at that time. He was like, well, you knew I had, uh, you know, I had Jordan. And, um, I was like, well, I didn't know you were married. He was like, yes you did, yes you did, yes you did. It's like, wow, like a lot of things I didn't really know about him until years and years later because, you know, I always let him lead and I never really asked any questions. So, um, so, you know, submissive, very submissive. I mean, that's the problem.

You were 17. That's what children typically do is they let their parents or adults lead, those that are older, because you're used to it. So, all right. Um, now you— when— so things— how long were things good between you guys, even though he was married and courting you at the time? Like, how long were you guys— like, was it good?

So we were off and on. Um, let's see, that was '97. And then we kind of was off and on for years. Nothing serious until about 2014.

Okay.

And then that's when I think I was living in LA and I contacted him. He flew me to Atlanta to come visit him. And really, we were— we always talked about business and things like that. But when I got there, you know, he was like, well, I don't want you living in LA, you know, come stay with me. And so, you know, we tried the relationship thing out. It was good. You know, it was good. And I appreciated him, you know? And I was like, oh, we gonna be together. I can tell he really cares about me. We were gonna get married, 'cause that was always his way of getting my attention. You need to come get married to Keith Sweat, you know? And saying that, he said that a number of times. But guess what? Those was just words. Those was just words. And so—

The way he would say it, get married to Keith Sweat. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Yeah. You don't have to worry about a career or anything like that. You're going to be Keith Sweat's wife. That's what he made me feel like. But yeah, you know, I learned a lot through this situation, and I don't want to place blame on him. You know, I just want to highlight the lessons that I learned, you know, going through it.

And now, were you allowed to see other people, like, in between y'all breakups? Did you see other people?

I did. I did.

Okay. Any other celebrities?

I had a baby. I had a baby. Yes, I had a daughter.

With who?

Yeah, so my baby daddy is Tila. I don't know if you've ever heard of him.

I know Tila. Yeah. Long time ago.

Yeah.

Okay. Okay. And how's that going, that co-parenting situation? Did it go well?

It went good. I mean, it went good. It was good. Okay.

How did Keith feel about you having a baby with Tila?

He doesn't know Tila. We never talked about Tila.

So he didn't ask you where the baby came from?

I told him that I, you know, that I was pregnant or whatever, and he's— and I told him it was a rapper, and he's like, oh, his whole time, you know, was like, oh yeah, you had a baby with that rapper and blah blah blah, you know, and all this. But, um, yeah, okay, okay. So I mean, he, you know, Keith, he, he helped me raise my daughter, um when she was in high school from 2014 to 2018. She was 14 at the time. Okay. And by the time she was 18, you know, I— she was just— she was there for me, you know. I didn't realize how much energy I was getting from her, but I was with Keith. And, um, once she graduated high school and went off to college, You know, that's when I just felt the emptiness just seeping in. It was just like, I was like, wow, like I'm with Keith, but it just is not feeling like I'm full, like my love cup is full. You know what I mean? So that was part of the reason why I had to leave, you know? And then I moved back to Houston in 2018.

Okay.

So yeah, it was real rough.

So what, like, okay, so what were some of the things? Because I know like in the email when you wrote in, let me pull it up. Hold on for a second. 'Cause I know it can be hard on a platform like this and you never speaking out and it's like, you know, you want to say it, but there's just so much to say. And you feel there's like not enough time, but we have time. We have time. Nobody's rushing you or anything. And, you know, you basically say you're the ordered-off ex-girlfriend for 27 years, a long time of your life. Okay. And let's see, basically he's perverted. And he's abusive. And it should be exposed. So tell me about the perversions you're alleging.

I'll say, um, you know, just he likes the women young. He loves young women. He loves them young, and he loves empathetic women. And I'm starting to realize, you know, it's because he— maybe he thinks we're weaklings or something, you know. It's something about that. Every woman has to be very, you know, empathetic. What do you call it?

Impressionable.

Uh, just like kind-hearted. Kind-hearted. Yeah. Vulnerable. Yeah. So, but, um, to me he has a lot of narcissistic tendencies. Um, very controlling.

Well, controlling like how? Give me an example.

So, you know, like I remember him telling me that, um, I couldn't wear shorts. He was like, don't, don't wear shorts. So the next time I saw him, I had on a skirt and he was like, didn't I tell you not to wear, uh, stuff like that? I was like, what do you mean? Um, so I'm like, well, I can't wear skirts and I can't wear shorts. And then just recently, um, he wants to control even the color of my lipstick. You know, you can only— I can only wear certain lipstick colors. You know, you need to wear— you just want to, you know, control my outfits, my wardrobe, everything, like, you know, things like that.

So, okay. And, um Did he ever bring other young women around you? Did you ever catch him with younger girls and stuff while you guys were together?

Um, so just recently, you know, um, when I moved into his house, um, you know, I— okay, well, everything was better. Everything was okay. And you know, the conversations we had before I actually moved into his house. Yeah, everything was going good until I actually moved in. And then that's when he switched. It was like a light switch. And he started bringing like, this is embarrassing to talk about.

[Speaker:Latasha] It's okay, go ahead, girl.

[Speaker] But he started bringing like a wardrobe of women's clothes. And I was like, oh, I was like, he's so sweet 'cause the stuff wasn't like my size. So like, is this my stuff? You know, he brought it in. But he never said it was mine. And he brought like some shoes as well. And these, the ones that I have on, Tom Ford. And those are cute. So he was like, the shoes are yours. And he said, but the clothes aren't. So I was like, what is it? What is this? So anyway, I was like, well, maybe this is a joke and these really aren't my clothes. But come to find out, they were never my clothes. They were never my clothes. And, you know, the whole time—

Whose clothes were they?

Tasha, you tell me. You ask him.

Were they his?

I didn't ask him. Thank you. They had to be his. I was like—

Like he's wearing women's clothes?

Yes. That's what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking. Either that, or I also thought about, you know, maybe he's on some R. Kelly type stuff and he's trying to bring other women in here. I didn't know what to think. You know, but, um, yeah, okay. I don't know. I really couldn't—

now, when you say perverted, like, what do you mean? Give me an example of perversion.

Like, um, I just, you know, like, I just feel like he's too old to, um, to be hanging out with some, some of the, the young girls that he likes to date, you know.

Because he's 70 now, right?

Yeah, he is. He really— he's almost 70. Yep. Yep, yep, yep.

Okay, and so you would see him with some of these young girls and stuff, or—

I was one of them.

Okay, okay, cool.

I was one of them.

Alrighty. Um, and abusive as far as like the clothes and stuff? He ever put hands on you?

No, he, he didn't, but I had to leave, um, because his attitude was so bad. And, you know, um, he was just treating me so bad, the worst he's ever treated me when I moved back to Atlanta recently. And it got to the point to where I felt like I didn't feel comfortable even just going around him. And, um, what do you mean like bad?

Like, give me an example.

Like, like with the clothes, you know, with the clothes.

You didn't know if you're gonna say anything? The lipstick?

The lipstick.

Okay.

And, uh, You know, him calling, and, and at first, you know, was all like, hey, I'm looking for a house, you know, um, either in Texas or, uh, Nevada. He was thinking about buying a house in Vegas.

Okay.

And so, you know, it's— that's how he drew me in because we were— because I have a real estate license in Texas. And so we were talking about business, and I was helping him, you know, look for houses and things like that. And, um So when I got to Atlanta, it all changed, and he just started complaining about finances, about, you know, his overhead, about, um, taxes, you know what I mean?

What's going on with his taxes? He owed taxes?

Yeah, that's what he told me. He told me he owed taxes.

A lot of taxes?

That's what he said.

Like how much?

He told me a million dollars. He told me Damn. Yeah, I was like, hmm, okay. Yeah, so I was like, well, it was just every, every day.

So he was stressed out and taking out his stress on you?

Maybe that's what it was.

Okay.

Yeah, but, but I gave— I was in Houston for 6 years and I was doing just fine, and I even gave him an out, you know what I mean? I said, hey, you know, do you just want me to come visit more often? He was like, you know, he was adamant. He said no, he wanted me in Atlanta. So I put in my notice and I give him my keys and I come to Atlanta and the whole time he's tormenting me and torturing me with just, just, just talking about, just insulting me, you know, insulting me. Like how?

What kind of insults?

Well, he would just about my shoes.

Okay.

Uh, he didn't, he didn't like my shoes. He didn't like my hair. He didn't like nothing. It was just like, I can do nothing right. I could do nothing right. And, um, it was just almost like, why am I here? Why am I even here? And then, okay, not only that, it's like neglect. We go weeks without seeing each other, you know.

And you in the house?

Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's where he liked me. In the house.

So you can't go nowhere?

If I wanted to go somewhere, where would I go? Where would I go? You a grown woman, girl.

You get up and go. Goddamn it, we got Uber, Lyft.

I mean, I would— I didn't— I don't really go out. And then I have my daughter in Atlanta. OK. So we would go out to restaurants and things like that. But going out, I don't really do that.

Okay, cool. At 70, was y'all having sex like that though?

I mean, was y'all having sex? You know, were we? You know what? He did say something about that. What did he say, girl?

What did he say? He should have been fucking, not talking.

This is another thing that he said that made me feel like, why am I here?

Okay.

He said, "I don't even need no woman like that. I don't even need this, that, and the third." And I'm like, "Well, why am I here? Why am I here?" And, you know, saying things like that.

Okay.

And also, you know, I'm out shopping, he would call and, you know, embarrass me in front of everybody. Just always starting arguments for no reason. He likes to argue and he loves chaos. And I had been in peace for like 6 years. So, you know, going into something like that, I was like, it's not worth it.

He nagging like how women nag?

Yes, ma'am.

Yes, ma'am. OK.

Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. All right. Damn. Keith, shut up. Shit.

Right.

That's what I said.

And I was waiting for him to come around. I was waiting for him to come around and just kind of take a step back and then you know, you know, revisit, you know, what we had going on. But the whole time, Tasha, he was just—

you think he wanted you to come take care of him?

I would have been more than willing to, um, to take care of him.

Is he getting senile a little bit, Tasha?

That's what I was saying. I was like, either we need an exorcism for him, or he has some type of early onset dementia, because I'm Tasha, I'm— it's not—

so he ain't gonna remember this interview after it go out?

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm a little worried. So, um, I mean, I thought about that too because he— it's like I don't even know him and he was acting like he didn't even know me. And I'm like, what is happening? So he was just acting so just unpleasant. He was acting so unpleasant. To where I tell him, he was like, well, you know, let's come to my house and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Because mind you, I'm living in his other house.

Okay.

And because he does a lot of business in his main house. So wait, what? Yes. Hold up.

Wait a minute. Hold the fuck up. Okay. So you're living in his second home?

Yes.

Yeah. And he brought you to Atlanta from Houston, put you in his second home.

Yep.

But you didn't go to the main home.

Um, yeah, I was there, you know, I spent nights there, but mostly, you know, I would be at his other house, a house that he bought in, I believe it was in June last year, in 2023. And I was there with him when he was looking at that house. And he ended up closing on it. And he just like redid it. And, you know, this, that, and the third. And I was asking him, why are you buying this house?

And, uh, so he didn't officially move in.

His stuff was there. Yeah, a lot of his clothes were there.

Yeah, but how often did he stay?

Whenever he felt like going, felt like coming to his house, his other house. Yeah, that's different. Yeah, and that's probably why it wasn't so toxic. It could have been way more toxic, you know, and I'm just grateful that we didn't, we weren't just like, you know what I mean? Like on each other, you know, every day like that. 'Cause it could have got bad. 'Cause he is so mean. He is a mean, he's a mean person.

Mean old grouchy man.

He's mean, girl. He's just mean. He's a Cancer. He's just mean. And like, I love Cancers. My daughter's a Cancer. My best friend is a Cancer. And the women I have good relationships with.

Okay.

But the man, he's just so mean. He's so mean. I don't know what it is.

Just a mean old man. That was it.

Especially now. Yeah.

Okay. And so were you guys sexually active though?

Yeah, we were.

How was it? Was that mean too, or was it nice?

It was— it wasn't aggressive or anything like that. It was just kind of the normal of what we've always done.

Was it great? Mm-hmm.

Of course. Of course.

Oh, OK. So Key Sweat puts it down in the bedroom.

You don't want to know, but— I do want to know.

That's why I'm asking you. What are you talking about? I do want to know. Is he good at what he does?

After 27 years, of course, girl. Of course.

OK. I'm just checking. I'm just—

Yes, girl.

You know, because you could be mean to me outside the bedroom, but in the bedroom, locals, you holding it down.

Oh, see, that's the thing. When we started fighting and things it stopped being fun, I cut it. That's when I just was like, oh, I don't— I can't do this, you know what I mean? I'd rather not.

Okay.

And so, oh, how about when I said that? I was like, you know, this is not gonna work for me, you know. He was like, what are you gonna do? And I was like, um, I'ma move. I'ma move. And girl, he wanted me gone like that. Oh, so he was like, get your shit right now, right now, right now, today. Right now, today. Yeah.

So he put you out?

He tried to put me out, and I was like, what is happening?

You had mail coming there?

Yes.

So then he couldn't put you out like that.

He was trying to. He said, I can get you out in a week. I got cop friends. You know, all this, that, and the third.

He cannot. He has to evict you.

Yes. And I was like, well, you know, I was like, I moved here from a different city. I'm not about to just up and leave right now. I need to think about what I want to do. I was like, because I'm gonna have to find a job out here or I'm gonna have to go home. And, um, he didn't want to give me time. He just wanted me to leave. And, you know, I told him, you know, give me 2 months and I'll be gone. He didn't want to give me 2 months, so he ended up, uh, he was like, well, I'm gonna have— girl, he named his daughters— he said, I'm gonna have my daughters come get you out. Uh, he was just threatening me about people he was going to send over to get me out.

That's so nice.

That's what I said. I was like, really, really, really? I was like, okay, all right, this man is crazy. And, um, girl, how about he sent 4 guys, 4 big guys, to that house for little old you?

Yes.

To that house. And girl, I was so— I was just— every night I was just kind of like, okay, what's gonna happen tomorrow? What's gonna happen tomorrow? What's gonna happen tomorrow? Because he wasn't letting off of me. It wasn't like he was like, okay, I understand, we, we've been knowing each other for 27 years, you know, I'm gonna give you some time, you know, I did bring you all the way out here. Nothing like that. It was just hate. It was just so much hate. And I'm like, what? I just couldn't understand it.

But, um, so do you think that you were the only woman in Atlanta put up at a house of his? Is he at a main house?

Um, his main house, his children, I believe he wants his kids living at his main house.

So he don't want his women?

No, he has a studio at his main house. It's people in and out of his house, uh, rehearsing, you know, all kind of people in and out.

So, so do you think that there were other houses with other women?

I thought about that. I thought about that. And what did you, what did you come to a conclusion? Uh, I didn't find that out. I did not find that out. Um, no.

No.

Okay.

Did he give you like a monthly budget to spend?

He did. He would give me money like, it would be like maybe a couple of times a month. Yeah.

So he just put money on a card for you and you just do what you want to do?

He gave me cash.

Oh, okay. Okay, he's a cash man.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay. And so he paid all the bills at the house and everything? So you were a kept woman.

Yes, absolutely.

You just couldn't wear no skirts, no shorts.

That's what he said. He said, you're a kept woman. So by him saying that, It was almost like he could just treat me any type of way he wanted to treat me.

But you said hell to the no.

No, no, I cannot. Like, it's just, it's just some things, it's like life is too short, you know. Um, I don't know, I just, I just felt like I don't have to put up with that, and I'll go through hell and high water to, you know, make something else happen. I'm not gonna be sit, you know, like neglected and, um, feel like I'm a problem or not included, you know what I mean? He made me feel like I wasn't included a lot of times. He kept me in the house. And then, so what is so crazy is, is, um, he would— he would— some of the ways he would get me back would be, oh, come be my— come be my—

put the mic to your mouth—

come, come be my, um, my backup dancer.

Backup dancer? What the fuck?

Yeah.

I was like, what? What the hell?

All this stuff was outrageous, and I should have known it was outrageous.

OK. All right, cool.

And then he also said, well, come be my— come sing background for me. OK. You know, that was another thing he said. So, you know, when I would get into his atmosphere, none of that stuff would come into fruition. So I'm like, why was he saying all that kind of stuff? Maybe it's because he wasn't really finna marry me, so now he's just make me feel like I can work for him or something. It was always, come work for me. Or, you know, it was always, let's get married, come work for me.

You could marry him with a million dollars owed in taxes now. They would have came after your ass too. Yeah.

Yeah. What?

Oh yeah. Yeah. They coming for their money. You know, that's why a lot of people, you know, that's a whole nother topic. But yeah, like, so I think that, you know, God kind of saved you in that point because his debt would have became yours. By default. Like, if he owe child support, you got a job to hit you too, you know. They're gonna get that money.

Yeah. So that was another thing I found out, uh, when he started telling me about, um, tax problems. And then he was like, well, the house that you're living in, I may have to sell it, you know, saying all this stuff to me, saying all this stuff to me. And I was like, wow. I was like— so I started trying to look on the internet, like, what kind of tax problems do we have? Do— is he in court for taxes? You know, like, is he telling me the truth? You know?

And what'd you find, girl?

I found out— first of all, okay, I found out that, um, he had two paternity lawsuits against him that I didn't even know about. And I'm not sure about one.

Girl, you live in the second house. The main house got all the business.

Yeah, yeah.

What'd you find out about the paternity suits?

So one of them went through.

Okay.

And that's his baby he doesn't claim. This is according to what I've seen in court records.

Do tell, do tell.

Okay. And, um, but you know what, this kid is grown too. This is a grown— I believe that one's a daughter.

But he owed back child support.

But he was on child support. That's how I knew that was his baby, because he was on child support. But the other woman, she put the lawsuit in and, um, I don't even know what happened with that one, but I didn't see child support on that one. So I'm not sure if he has two additional kids.

Now, were these babies that he had while he was with you?

Okay, so the first one was, oh Lord, I don't know if this is true or not, but somebody said that his first wife was served papers for the paternity, like for child support.

Oh, so you was one of the women on the side too when he had to watch? So it was kind of like he was cheating on the wife with you and other women. I get—

apparently. So I really don't know. I really don't feel like, um, anyway, that was just somebody else he was cheating on her with and had a baby with her, his first wife. That baby is like 30 years old or something like that.

How many kids does he have, child?

5 that I know of.

That you know of?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right. Do you know Teddy Riley?

No, I don't know him. I mean, I've met him before with Keith, but I don't know him personally. Okay.

Do you know the dynamic between him and— Teddy Riley?

Yeah, they're like besties. They work together. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cool. Give me one second. Hold on. It has nothing to do with you.

Oh no, it's okay.

It's just a question my producer told me to ask if she wants to find out if you know anything. That's all. What about Teddy Riley, child?

What about it? Oh no, Slim was telling me that him and Teddy Riley used to be in the houses. He saw Teddy Riley used to be in the house. Teddy Riley was in the main house. She said he was in a side house.

So Teddy Riley lives in— was always in the main house with, uh, Keith Sweat, and you was in the side house. So it's what my producer is saying. So he's trying to see maybe if, you know, what type of relationship dynamic did they have.

Did they, you know, um, the only time I was around Teddy was at, uh, Keith's Jamaica Fest.

Okay.

And they were working together. And then another time, uh, Teddy was married, I believe, and he had just had a baby. And he was living with a woman, but I've never seen him at Keith's house.

They never seen him sleeping there?

No.

They said that my producer said he would sleep there. Is that what you were saying? And they were sleeping there in the studio. Okay. All right. We just wanted to know what information you had on that there. Okay. Thank you so much, producer.

All right.

All right. Cool. And so, all right, so yeah, I think it just sounds like you were a kept woman. You were supposed to look pretty, spend the money, don't ask no questions, let him yell at you when he wanted, let him fuck you when he wanted. And you're just supposed to just be there.

Yeah. I mean, I just can't fight with people. You know, I felt like I was vibrating at the lowest of the energy chart when I was around him. I didn't even— sometimes I didn't even know who I was.

I was like, who?

I just felt like I didn't know I was— he always made me feel less than.

Who are you?

I'm Trina. I'm Trina. Like, I'm not Keith Sweat's wife. You know what I mean? I don't have that title. So, um—

What do you think he's going to say when he sees this interview and it's you?

Oh, God. He's going to be baffled. He's going to be baffled. He won't believe it. He won't believe it. He's going to be like, oh, not her. You know what I mean? Not her. But—

Ever been pregnant by him?

I've always been on the pill, honey.

That is crazy of you. Why would you do that?

Because he just never made me feel like he— loved me enough to make me want to have a baby. I had one, I already had one.

You said, "I'm in love?" What the fuck?

I already had one that was tough. That was a tough pregnancy.

It's about the maternity suits.

Yeah. But it like—

Oh, you're such a good woman.

I just can't, like, even going back this time, it wasn't about, "Oh, I'm going back trying to get married," or— I would have been okay not even getting married. I was just his friend. I would do anything to, you know, be there for him. And do whatever I can do to help him out. So it was, maybe that's what it was. I was real with him and I was a genuine person to him, but he just wasn't, he wasn't with me. Or he just took it for granted. You know, like maybe he felt like, well, why, why are you like this? Why are you so nice to me? You know, and maybe he just didn't have respect for me because I was nice to him when he's such an asshole.

Yeah, nice people finish last. That's why I say if he had, you would have turned into one that had a paternity suit. He would have been real nice to you. Because he would have needed something from you, you know, like a negotiation on child support, right?

And did I tell you he took me to court?

For what?

He took me to court, Tasha.

For what?

Because it was false allegations. He, he tried— he, he, he— okay, first of all, he didn't inquire with no lawyer. He was just trying to do any and everything he could do to push me out of that house because I told him that I didn't— I didn't— I was gonna move on, you know what I mean?

What did he lie about? What did he tell the court to lie about? What did he say about you? I know it was something crazy. Go ahead.

But yeah, he— first of all, it was, uh, he sent his tour manager to the courts. And, uh, first of all, he told his tour manager was representing him. I'm like, what? You, you know, this is— this is not right if you got your tour manager representing you and not a lawyer. Okay, because I guess he probably did talk to a lawyer and said, oh, you can't. They're going to throw this out because, you know, she's established residency there.

Exactly.

So he just wasted everybody's time.

That's embarrassing for you.

He wasted my time. He wasted his friend's time. And he just wasted everybody's time. You know, it was just like, what is all this for? And I had to really, like, go to court.

But what did he say? To the court about you?

He said— what he said? Oh, he said, um, I was trespassing.

Oh, okay.

I was trespassing. I was like, what? I was like, what are you talking about? Like, like I'm some crazy fan who just showed up in your house and I'm just here? So the judge—

I think he thought she was fucking somebody.

Probably.

Yeah. He was like, oh, you want to leave? Where the fuck you gonna go? Who you fucking? You need to get the fuck out of my house. So he wanted to drag you out of there by any means necessary.

Maybe, maybe, maybe.

No, that's what it was. But he was like, who you gonna find better than Keith Sweat?

But is that— if that's the case and he didn't trust me, why would he have me living at his house, in his other house, and not in his main house? You know what I mean?

Because he You were there for him.

Yeah.

At his beck and call when he wanted you.

Mm-hmm.

Just like R. Kelly had them girls living in a house, many rooms and stuff. You was just, you just had the whole house. Yeah. And when he wanted to come and when he wanted to come to the house and come, he wanted to come.

Right. I'm like, I mean.

When's the last time you guys were together sexually?

I want to say like June.

Of this year?

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

June.

And how was that?

Uh, it was, it was, it was, it was what it was. It was what it was.

It still work at 70?

It still work? Uh, he probably take a little something.

Ah, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah.

All right, I'm sorry that you had to go through that. I can understand why you wanted to call me. You was like, you gonna go to the court on me, motherfucker? You gonna try to put me out of your house and all these guys? That is kind of fucked up after he done told you to move here, and then he beats you down and verbally abuses you, according to you, and everything like that. And yeah, you just a nice person, so you didn't deserve that.

Right.

Right, but he felt like, because he kept you, gave you money, gave you a big nice house to live in in Atlanta, you were Keith Sweat's girl, that he could just treat you any kind of way he wanted.

I really don't know what's wrong with him.

Okay. It's called old and senile.

Maybe that's what it is.

And he's a superstar. Well, was.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's just crazy.

So I take it no more Keeps What concerts for you?

No. No, I think it's the end of an era. You know, I wish him well, you know. But, you know, it's just, I just feel like if his attitude is gonna be the way that it is, which is very callous and very mean, Have you ever told anybody fuck you before? Have I? Have I told him that? No.

Have you ever told anybody fuck you?

Maybe not in those words.

Okay. Okay. Certain words and certain expressions can be very liberating. And I could tell that you have lived a very poised, very meek meek life. And that's why men of a certain caliber like you, because you tend to not probably talk back or argue. You just take it, right? But you coming to this platform, I believe this is your moment, as you said, to take back your independence, to say no, to say fuck you, right?

Yep.

You are tired of being people's punching bags and being just this beautiful woman that is just on people's arms that, you know, is seen and not heard. You're tired, aren't you?

Oh, very much.

Very much.

Oh, yeah.

So can you do something for me? I want you to look at that camera and I want you to say, fuck you, Keith.

Fuck you, Keith.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We didn't feel that. No, no, no.

That was too nice.

Okay. That was too nice. Nice. All right, so, um, you— I don't want you to care about your hair, your makeup, you know. Um, I want you to say this with your soul, okay? Would you look at the camera? We're talking about 27 years he has held you back, you said, right?

Yeah.

He has dimmed your light, and you're a very bright woman.

Thank you.

Bright in skin color and bright, you know, intellectually. You know, you worked for everything you got. You're not the scallywag that, you know, could have trapped him with a baby like those other hoes did. You're not them, right? So you look at him. You left your life.

Yep.

And you say, fuck you, Keith.

Fuck you, Keith.

One more time. One more time.

Fuck off, Keith.

Say it again. Say it again with your stomach.

Fuck off. Fuck off. It's the end of an era. And it's the straw that broke the camel's back. This is the last discard.

Say it again. And you better say it like it's the end of the fucking world.

Fuck you, Keith. This is the final discard.

Okay, we gonna take that. That's the start, okay? That's the start, okay. I want you to go in the mirror when you get home, and I want you to practice saying, "Fuck you," okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I learned a big one though. You know, I learned, you know, just setting boundaries and sticking to it.

Yeah, exactly. And don't be letting people run over you. Just treat you any kind of way. Now, and when you get home, say other stuff. Fuck you, you Viagra-using motherfucker. You fuck you. That's why you owe a million dollars in taxes, bitch. Fuck you. I hope the tax— the IRS come take every motherfucker thing you got.

Right, right, right. Fuck you.

I was the best thing you ever had. Yeah, say that part.

Yep.

Fuck you. I was the best thing you ever had.

Fuck you, Keith. That was the best thing you could have ever had.

Thank you. Thank you. And say, now you gotta go. Now you gotta go.

Now you gotta go. Bye!

Bye! How do you feel?

I feel good. I feel good. I feel like a new me, right?

As you should, girl. So when you get out here in these streets, fuck these niggas. This is a song I want you to listen to. You listen to me, okay? Because I can tell you ready to get outside, you ready to get lit. Fuck all this shit. I got one more song. I got one song. You make sure you leave this in here, Swank, okay? Because I'm telling you, there's a new era There is a new wave, and women ain't taking no bullshit no more, okay? We are not just sitting at home cooking and cleaning and clean up your funky ass drawers while you go use them funky ass drawers on some other bitch. Nah, we're not doing that. Uh-uh, uh-uh. Hold on for a second. Hold on, hold on. Exactly, exactly. Okay, give me one second. This how This is her. I want you— this is a song I need you to sing. This is your new anthem, okay, Trina?

Okay. You heard this on the phone?

Yeah. Ready?

I ain't got no nigga and I'm gay.

No, no, no, no. Trina, say this. I need you to rap this shit. Let's go. Let's go. You ready? Come on. You ready? Come on, girl. Throw that hair.

7:45.

Hey, 95 degrees, I ain't got no nigga and no nigga ain't got me. Fuck you, Kate. Now we gotta go.

Yes, ma'am.

Bye, Latasha. Bye, Latasha. I love you, Trina, honey. When I come to Atlanta, I'm calling you and we're gonna say it's 7:45, 95 degrees, we ain't got no nigga and them niggas ain't got me. Okay. New Year's. New Year's. All right. New Year's.

Yes.

And now with that, we gotta go.

We got to go.

All right. Bye. Bye. I love it, girl. Give me a hug, girl. You just claimed your independence. You ain't going to put me out, bitch. Look, I love it. You're so fun.

Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Anytime. Anytime, girl. So listen, just don't let these motherfuckers run over you.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Next time, pour gasoline, burn that goddamn house down like the girl from TLC did. Burn that bitch down. And you see, he still took her back because niggas like hoes. They like toxic. They like crazy.

That is so chaotic. And that's just not—

but niggas love crazy hoes though.

And that's why I was acting crazy, girl. I gave him a run for his money this time, okay?

I made him take me to court. Okay, cool. That's right, that's right. Now you're on a platform to all the people.