Love Beyond Boundaries: Navigating Color, Age, and Success Together" Tasha K x John & Najlah Malot

Just what we do.

You're good. Don't be nervous. See how I was just talking to y'all?

Yes, we're good.

See, that's a whole podcast right there. Don't even be nervous. You look beautiful. And let me see that ring, girl. Let me see what's on it. I'm blinded. I'm blinded.

It's the combination. It's the combination.

I told you. I'm glad you know who I was, right? You know what I'm saying? He didn't, but I know you was probably like, oh shit, like what did my husband?

I know when you walked in, I was like, wait.

That's funny.

What are we doing here? Take off the glasses really quick. So we have John Mallett and your beautiful wife, Najla. Najla.

Malat.

Malat. I'm so sorry.

That's all right. We've been called way worse. We've been called way worse.

It's the country part of me. You know, I said mallet, you know what I'm saying? Like all the time. But no, welcome to Fort Lauderdale. Welcome to the wine cellar. I told you I reached out to your husband in the DM. It was all professional. Okay. Although it did kind of turn me on a little bit. I ain't gonna lie, I'm married, but I was just like, I like a white man. Love me a good white man that puts motherfuckers in they place. Okay. And so my winos tagged me in a post that he posted on his page of you, and it was the first time I heard of you guys. Okay.

Yeah.

And it was a wedding picture of you guys, and then he titled it Bed Wench. And so I was like, what the fuck going on? Why is this white man posting this Black girl in a wedding dress for my bed wench? Hold up. And then it was like, to the ignorant man— now you wrote this— yeah, to the ignorant man that called my wife a bed wench, the meaning as he used the term historically, the phrase bed wench described Black women enslaved by white men for sexual purposes. I can assure you my wife is in no way enslaved. As a matter of fact, whatever the opposite of that, that is what she is: equipped, empowered, obsessed over, loved, protected, and provided for. Only a real man would understand this.

Oh, hearing that again makes me feel good. Cuz that's it.

I jumped to your DM, I said, Mal— I said, Malot.

Malot.

I said, now listen, on this show we say niggas and crackers, right?

That's okay. I've been called a cracker ass cracker before.

Listen, I'm from Florida. White people call themselves crackers, you know what I'm saying? We call ourselves niggas and we, we eat, drink, eat seafood together, you understand what I'm saying? I said, that's some gangster shit. I said, yo, could you do a podcast? I need you here. And then you come in and you tell me He does this all the time on Facebook.

Yeah, I've been, you know, look, because I'm constantly defending a relationship that should not be defended. But it's social media. And I used to, I used to get in there hard with people, and I'm swinging. Now, I've tamed it down a little bit. And I'm getting good at blocking and deleting. So when nonsense and ignorance— because that's where all hate comes from, is from ignorance.

Yeah.

So when I get, when I get these ignorant people, I'm getting really good at blocking because she's like, I'm 2 o'clock in the morning doing battle with someone. You need to go to bed.

You know, you make too much money. I know, because you got too much of your time.

Too much time. She said you need to get— go back to work, come out of retirement and do something with your life instead of—

well, you got time to come back. Haters, that's how you know you're making too much money.

You got to start another business. Well, and we're— we do that too. Well, and I saw it was happening on TikTok too, and she's like, you're probably arguing with a 13-year-old kid. That's true though, that, you know, that's trolling.

I had to stop that one time. One time I was arguing with a 17-year-old. I was like, oh my God. Yes, I had to check myself and I was like, where are your parents? They don't have none.

That's the problem.

They don't have none. So listen, um, thank you so much for coming to share your story and stuff like that, but I want to, I want to dive into all things. I want to know how you met, how much money you made, what attracted you to him. You, you say you've always been attracted?

Always. Yeah, there it, it just is what it is. Like, I, I, I can't tell you why. I could just tell you in junior high When Brenda walked by, I looked, you know, when—

what Brenda looked like.

Brenda. Brenda had the booty. LL Cool J, I think, described her one time. But Brenda with the butt.

Listen.

And then, you know, Karen, she didn't have all that. You know, she, she just doesn't do anything for me.

Okay.

This is junior high.

Damn.

So, yeah.

Were you raised in, like, an all-Black neighborhood?

I was raised in mainly Hispanic. Okay, it was Hispanic and Black, majority Mexican, and then Black, and then me and my brother. And we were white boys with red hair.

So eyebrows are like ginger.

So yeah, so okay. So imagine, you know, two white boys running around wild as hell with red hair in this neighborhood. Well, we couldn't get away with anything. There was always the two white boys with the red hair.

You know, they live over there on 34th.

That's funny, because it was 30th. We live right on 30th. Yep.

Now where did you grow up at again?

Milwaukee. South Side.

Oh shit.

Yeah.

I didn't even know Milwaukee had a hood.

Oh.

Yeah, until recently. We had a young lady hit our line and, you know, somebody took her fiancé on Love Hip Hop. And she called and she was like, bitch, Milwaukee will walk down that bitch. I said, no you won't. Not today.

Yeah, Milwaukee's different. I tell you, that's a different hood mentality.

I had to leave.

I had to leave. Because it was killing me. My first felony arrest, I was 15 years old.

Felony? What the hell was you doing?

I robbed a movie theater at some point.

I was gonna say, you had to be robbing somebody.

Yeah, I was.

A movie theater.

A movie theater.

It was their fault. I wasn't there to rob them, but—

They left it unattended?

Well, they asked me to leave 'cause we were disrupting the place. And what they didn't know, in the back of my Louisville starter jacket that I used to wear that represented the colors of our neighborhood, I sewed a towel in there and it housed my gun. And so when he asked me to leave, I said, well, give me my money back. And he said, well, your ticket stub says no refund. So my dumb ass pulls out a gun and says, well, give me everybody's money back. Yeah. Funny then. Or funny now. Not funny then. Cause that was 18 months of my life gone after that incident. And yeah.

If I was your mama, boy, I would've—

Oh.

Your daddy.

My dad. My mom had left early. My mom, she had other plans.

So your dad, he raised y'all.

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, what happened, my dad got, my dad was a steel worker. In Milwaukee, which is, you know, it was a big, you know, blue-collar area. But my dad got hurt at work. Flight for Life picked him up one day from work. I was 14 years old. And at that point, my brother and I raised ourselves. Mom was gone. My dad was in intensive care for a year. Damn. Almost died. I mean, it was, even to this day, he still deals with stuff. But then when he finally got out, he was in a wheelchair that you lay, flat on your stomach and you roll like this because he couldn't— it tore his whole back apart, ripped off. I mean, everything, all the muscles gone. So it was a tough time. And my brother and I just ran wild in the streets. My brother's been same thing, in and out of prison. He's been dealing with the drug issues and all that for a long time.

Damn.

Yeah.

I'm sorry to hear that. Your dad's okay now?

Yeah. Yeah. My dad's a gangster. He's a good dude. Yeah, he's good. He's good. Yeah, he was 17 when I was born, and so, you know, he was, he was trying to figure shit out too. Yeah.

Now, Najla, now he said your name means something because it's absolutely beautiful.

Thank you, it does. It means beautiful eyes.

I knew it, I got it right.

Now, now, he's, he say you young. How young are you compared to him?

Tell the truth now because she be lying on social media.

We're only 23 years apart.

Only 23.

I'm 29.

Okay, so you're old enough.

Oh yeah.

How long you guys been married?

I met her at a club. She— if she— look, if you're old enough to get in the club, then you're old enough to hang out. That's the way I saw it.

How long you guys been married?

Married 4 and a half years.

Congratulations.

5 June 1st.

Okay.

Together, what, 7?

Together, 7 years.

Yeah. We have two stories that we tell. There's, you know, for, for are Christians, okay, we tell them we met in the library. But for everybody else, we tell them the truth. Oh, yeah, we met in the club. You know, I was, I was going to my table and she was leaving. And I was like, you cannot leave. You have to come. You have to come back in here.

Oh my God.

And that was it.

Now, what attracted you to him? I could tell. I could tell. Okay. But I want to hear from you.

Yes.

Yeah.

The funny thing about it is me and my girlfriends, we were leaving the club for the night. It was kind of early. I was like, it's kind of dead. Let's go home. I think there was like 5 or 6 of us and we walk into this club called Mint. We do a little lap, you know, just see what's popping, leave, walk out. There's this guy who's a club promoter and he's like, Naj, what are you guys doing? My boy, he's coming over here right now and it's his birthday. You guys should hang out. And we're like, I don't know, maybe we'll see. That was like, and I mean, and then like 2 minutes later, this guy comes up to me.

Me.

And he's saying, come inside to my table. I was like, I can't like leave my friends.

Right.

And he's like, well, just bring them.

Bring them all.

Yeah.

More the merrier.

Now you a real friend because, you know, the women these days.

Yeah, it would have been different.

Well, the girls, not the women, because the women we know. You don't leave your girlfriends to go nowhere. You either all go or we all going home.

Exactly.

And that's how you probably knew he had some money because he said bring them all. Bring them all. You know you hit a lick. Did you know in that moment that you hit a lick?

No, you didn't. But what's crazy is that the guy that he was talking about was John already, but he didn't get a chance to talk to John.

I didn't know that he was trying to connect us prior.

Your type or something? Yeah, yeah.

If you're around me for 2 minutes, you know my type.

Oh, shit.

So he didn't even have to introduce us. John, just—

I introduced myself. Yeah, I can't be waiting for people. You know, we don't wait. Gotta seize the moment.

But what really caught my attention— so this is like a hip-hop R&B club. It's his birthday. So I guess I understand why you were dressed like this. But Actually, every time I ever saw him go out this day forward, he always wears like a full suit, like jacket, pants, shoes out in the club.

I'm like, yeah, you know, I, I, I used to dress— I don't, I don't do it.

That's efficient outfit.

Super, super fire. Yeah, see, that's the truth. She understands.

I do.

And nobody else looked like me. Nobody.

Like, I I was telling my— who was I telling? Was I telling that to my husband? Because the way my husband's mannerisms are, and I'm like, a woman that understands like wealth or something could look at a guy, how he's dressed, and his mannerisms. If you're quiet and you just sitting over there and you minding your business, but you look good, but you're not trying to show off, that's how you know when a man got his shit together and he don't want to draw all that attention and stuff. So he knows what he wants, then he'll come get it.

And I knew You came and got me, and I never, never let her go at that point.

Oh, what attracted you to, like, about her? Like, I know it's first it was obviously because she's beautiful. Yeah, but like anything about her character?

Well, no, for sure at first it's always looks. I mean, that's the first thing that, that catch all of us.

So please tell me that, because they be thinking like, man, just look and be like, oh, I see your heart. No, they see your penis first.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I didn't see her heart at first.

I fuck her. Then we'll talk about that other shit, because that's why it's my birthday.

Like, I had plans for myself that night, that whole weekend. So I already knew, I already knew what I was getting myself for my birthday. She didn't know yet, but I knew it. But I, but I, so what ended up happening, because I had been doing this, I had sold a company and I had been, I was free for 3 years. I was out, you know, I was out doing, you know, 5 nights a week. Clubs for clubs.

I thought you had some money. How much you sell that shit for?

Millions.

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

It was, it was, and you can, I burned through millions too. So I, I can, I can make it and I can spend it. And that's what I did really well. But it was that, it was my birthday weekend that I was like, okay, I've been doing this for 3 years. And after this weekend, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get my shit back together. I'm gonna, I'm gonna get, and so anyways, when we, after that night, We end up hanging out, and I, I just expected, okay, young girl, um, she ain't gonna really have much together up here. We're gonna hang out, have a good time.

Yeah.

Okay.

And yeah, not, you know, not that young, because some people get— some people get it mixed up. Listen, no. Yeah, we don't— we don't— yeah, if you can't get into the club, then we, we can't— you know, we ain't talking.

Glad you pointed that out. Yeah. Thank you.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, they'll be like, oh, pedophile, all this, because I hear this shit too. I'm like, no, this And then she lies online about her age. So I'm like, you're making it seem—

I don't lie about my age online.

You told someone she was 25 or 24 in person. All right, see, so they start calculating and say, oh, all right, yeah, yeah. Now people become private investigators.

You know where they got that from? Because there was a viral pic of us, of our wedding photo, a couple years ago.

Oh, the Daily Mail.

The Daily Mail.

She's 20 and he's 70.

Yeah, some crazy— or 60. Yeah, so why are giving me age and taking age off of her. They're adding to mine.

Yes.

But yeah, in that Daily Mail article, I went crazy. But she was saying that it was my dance moves. My dance moves.

So you can dance. You got rhythm.

I got a little something. I got 3 good moves. I got 3 good moves.

You got the Diddy move.

Well, first, it's the 2-step with a drink in my hand. I got that one down. So I look like I know a little something.

Okay.

It just, it just depends on the, it depends on the music and depends on if she's in front of me or not. So.

Okay.

But anyway, so that's what happened. So we, we, after that, like we hung out. I won't even tell her, tell everybody that she, she did ditch her friends later on after the club. She said they're all going home. She, yeah, she was naughty, naughty girl, naughty girl.

You? The girl you came with the pussy on the first night? Yes.

Tell the truth. Shame the devil. That's what I'm talking about.

You know why? You know why? I tell women that all the time. You 22. You need a hoe phase.

Yes.

But during the hoe phase, you do not have a baby.

Nah. No, she—

You do not have a baby. And you use protection.

Yes. Right?

This was a great phase because I didn't want to be in a relationship.

Right, and you need to discover what you want. The worst thing you could do as a woman is go into a relationship with a man who's been around the block, and you pure or whatever, yeah, you ain't got no experience, that man gonna— he gonna beat you mentally, gonna beat you emotionally, and then he gonna go fuck prostitutes on the side.

Yep, man, you got— you just broke down the whole world.

My dad is a hoe, my other dad is a hoe, my brother, my cousins. I grew up around all men. So when they say these men online, oh, we want pure women— no, you don't, because you constantly paying for pussy. Yep. No, they don't. So you go do you. They just don't want you to up them or have your confidence to say, you know what, you can go out here and do this, I can too. All right, so I'm glad that you tested that out before you say, you know what, he got money, I don't want to stay because of the money, he got to show me something else. I'm glad. I know the money was there, you know, but if a man can't fuck, it's like, okay, I'm gonna get what I can and I'm gonna leave. Obviously she stayed.

She stayed and she keeps coming back for more. She was making me do it 3 times a day. For a while. I'm like, dang. Which, yeah, after you get married, you get down to 2 times a day and then 1.

Well, shit.

Well, now we got, you know, now we got to, we got some work to do from time to time. Sometimes we travel all day.

Yeah, you're tired.

Like, come on.

18 years. Okay.

Congratulations, by the way.

Go take weekends.

Yes.

And be like, no kids. Right. Oh, well, get it all on the table and come back.

Like, come back.

Like, yeah, so I get it. But I'm glad you did that because a lot of women are afraid to say that. Like, oh, if I fuck on the first night, I won't get married. It is, it is crazy to me that people will make a man wait 90 days, right? Especially a good man. No, then you get 90 days, you got feelings for him, but he can't fuck.

Yeah, and now you're trapped.

You trapped.

Now you're stuck. Like, you trapped on both sides.

And then 7 years down the road, they calling me during happy hour. I'm ready to cheat. No, you're not. You're gonna be honest with this man. Either you're gonna teach him how to fuck you, okay?

Yeah.

Or you're gonna, you're gonna be grown and, and tell them the truth because you got kids now and all that.

Yeah.

So I'm glad that you got that out of the way. So obviously he's great in bed. Okay.

Thank you.

White men get the best head.

I— well, I do like, I do like it, you know. So I think if you, if you love doing something, you're just gonna do it well, you know what I'm saying? So I happen to really like doing that.

It's a nice setup.

It's a setup for just like last night. It was a perfect setup for what came after. So, you know, we're in Miami on the balcony. I'm like, come on, baby. Let me help you. You got too many clothes on. No, they couldn't see us way up there. And it was dark. But no, look, man, when we've been married now, we're going on 5 years. So I've been married before. And the key is to keep it fresh. The key is, is, is to be a little wild. The key is to be playful. The key is to have sex. Like, I was in a marriage that was sexless for a long time, you know what I mean? So a guy— I'm a guy. Yeah, several times. I was more single. I was more single in my first marriage. I've been— this is my third marriage, by the way. I was more— but we were so young. And she didn't want to be anything. She didn't want to leave Milwaukee. You know, I love her to death.

Black girl?

No, well, she's Sicilian, so if you ask her if she's white, she's gonna say no, which is funny to me. She's kind of olive-ish.

People tell me Italians argue with me all the time. They be like, I'm Italian.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Italians, they don't—

I say white, and they're like, I'm not white. Yes, you are.

They will argue with you over some spaghetti and meatballs, talking about they ain't white. Anyways, I'm like, all right, whatever you claim. That didn't work out. That didn't work out. And then my next marriage was a Black woman. And we have— so first marriage, I got 3 beautiful daughters. And second marriage, I have 1 beautiful daughter, 14. And then that was 9 years. And great, great woman. But we just didn't click. We built businesses together well. We did really well. And then when we cashed out, we're looking like, what, what do we do now? Like, we, we clearly didn't like each other.

Like, because I, I was telling a white man this on the plane the other day because he was trying to say he was, you know, Italian. I said, you're white. Literally was sitting beside the pilot.

Yeah.

And he was like, you know, I want to build, but I, you know, the women that I'm with don't want to help me build. And I was like, well, who are you with? He was like, white girl. And I was like, I ain't trying to be funny, but if you really want to build some shit You gonna have to get you a black woman.

Get a black woman. I'm telling you, I can tell you this, that bitch gonna hold it down.

Coretta Scott King let Martin do whatever he fucking wanted to do and spend the money, you understand? So he was like, you really think so? Because he want to go into politics.

And I said, 1,000% right.

Yes. I said, that lady— I said, or get you somebody with Hillary Clinton energy. I said, because she gonna understand that it's about the business.

Right?

Yeah, you got a dick. Okay. But at the end of the day, dick don't pay bills.

No. Well, Black women have a hunger. You know, because I always say you got to have 3 things. You got to have burning desire. That's critical. You got to want something. You know, people that are comfortable, they ain't going nowhere, you know, or they've already had it, or they haven't. So they stay in their comfort zone. You have to be willing to work. And you got some people that they might be hungry, but they ain't willing to put in, in the work. And the third thing is humble, or the definition of humble is teachable. So if you got those three things, magic can happen. And that's what happened with Najla. She was— we were in bed talking pillow talk, and I'm an entrepreneur, so I'm always talking about the businesses, money, things are happening. And she started talking about like her business and her personal training business and the fitness stuff that she does.

Yeah, I was gonna say, are you doing something?

Oh yeah, her body, yeah, her body was showing it When I saw her, I was like, oh, dang, dang. So we start talking and she— and I said, be careful what you say to me because she said she would like to build a business. And I said, as soon as you say that to me, my mind immediately goes into, well, we'll start another business. We'll start a company together. We'll build something together. And so that's what we did. So 3, 3 and a half, almost 4 years ago, we launched our nutrition brand together.

And what is the name of that?

Oh, Snap.

Okay.

Okay.

So it's the Snap Packs, which no one ever seen before. So We introduced the world to a new delivery system for liquid nutrition. So these SnapPaks are— you snap them and it's liquid energy. I usually—

yeah, I want some of this.

Yeah, I already snapped it because I always have a reverse in my purse. Let me just show you. I'll show you so you can see, because this is a game changer and we're taking it all over the world. So this is what a SnapPak looks like. This one's already snapped, but it's basically you put it to your mouth and you fold it, squeeze the liquid out, and boom, you got it. And this one's energy, clean, plant-based, vegan, sugar-free, chemical-free, everything.

Yeah. I got you.

Yeah, before we leave, I'll give you— Please do. Yeah, we got, you know, 4 different ones. Anyway, we launched that and Naj is a killer. Again, when you take hunger, willing to work, and humble enough to learn, because she was humble enough to say, I don't really, I don't know. And so she listened and she was such a great student that she became an incredible leader in the company.

Let me tell you something, and I know I'm about to piss a lot of motherfuckers off, right? And I was telling this white pilot that on the plane when I was like, you got to get you a black woman. And he was like, you think so? I said, yes, I know so. I said, when the rejects from England came over here.

I love you.

Girl, I'm telling you, over here everything goes different.

I didn't know what to expect, but I'm loving this.

When the rejects got thrown out of England to come over here and build this land, right? And then they went and got niggas from Africa to come build it. They put the niggas on the field and went and fucked the Black women. Moved the Black women into the house. They never fucked they wives that was white. They did that for unity. But they was out there talking and fucking with the Black woman. And the Black woman was running his house with the white woman inside. And she was running the plantation. Do you understand? Even though it was misused power. Yeah, it was misused energy. But the Black woman, when she— and he started impregnating her, having babies, and that's when the mulattos came. Yeah, but white men were constantly making and in relationships with Black slaves that were Black women and built this shit over here.

Yep.

People don't understand that.

No, it's the truth. Thus my post. So when someone— so when someone does say Bedouin, I get I get it. I just, I just need to remind them, right, that the times have changed. I wasn't around back then. Yeah, it's a whole different deal.

Slave master chose you, but we're not— they're not doing that no more. Like, who chose him? Like, just like how Black men—

yeah, sometimes I feel like I'm the slave. So sometimes, yeah, like, she tells me what to do. I'm like, damn, you know, she, she has— Black women have a— all women have a power.

Like, I teach my daughters, you have a power, but we the only ones that are carry 2 babies on our back with a basket on our head full of fruit, 2 kids and a nigga that ain't doing shit, walk to work, take care of the kids, come fuck him, have more babies and keep everything going.

That's why you get a Black woman as a business partner.

Thank you.

I'm just telling you, like, that's the secret sauce right there.

On the plane, he was like, I can't believe you just said that. What? It's the truth.

It's the truth.

It's the fucking truth.

It is. A thousand.

And that's why they like to label us as masculine, or we're, we're men, we're this, we're that, trying to degrade us because they're trying to— I said, that's why Trump, then all them fuckers got black women beside them, you know what I'm saying? Because they understand black women gonna be in the paint.

Yep.

Because it's about us and our children and our legacy, whether the man wants to get on board or not, whether he black, white, Italian, it don't fucking matter. Yeah, like, we're gonna hold down for our children.

Well, a weak man is gonna bring out masculinity in a woman. So that's, that's where the challenge is. If you ain't, if you ain't handling your business, then she should manhandle you. She should bend you over. I'm just, I mean, I see it all the time. But, but a strong man is going to allow her, you know, her, she can, she can say what she got to say. But she knows in the end, she understands that I'm the man in the house and she's the woman. But I learned a different philosophy from Miles Monroe, one of my early mentors. Myles Munroe talked about too many men got this, um, I'm the head of the house syndrome, which they think means, you know, uh, your woman is second to you, your woman is subject to your will, or whatever you do is okay. What Myles Munroe taught me, he says, look, you're the head of the house for sure, but that means you're the foundation for the house. Your job is to lift, to hold, protect. If she falls, you're there to, to, to catch her. It's like in real estate. In real estate, they have laws like they're not going to condemn your house if the shingles are falling off or if the windows are broken. But let there be some issues with the foundation and you got a condemned house. So the man's job is to be the foundation and let the woman do her thing. Let the woman be out there and create. Like, Najla has a discernment, and most women do, that I just, I just don't have. She'll tell me after we meet someone, she's like, there's something off with that dude. And when I don't listen to her I lose money messing with them, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, but sometimes you just gotta let them go out.

Yeah, she does.

And I'm like, well, I tried to tell you, but I ain't gonna hit you. Yeah, but I tried to—

she still lets me go make my mistakes.

Yeah, gave him $30,000. I knew, because we know a lick when we see one.

She really does. And I'm learning. And now, even though she says mentally I'm 15, I'm, I'm becoming, uh, more mature in my dealing with it, because I'm always so like— I love everybody, so I'm always giving people, and I always let people in that belong. Um, it's even back in the day when I would go to the club. I used to go to the club with my friends and they would just suck the energy and the money.

And pay— you pay and the girls.

And the girls. So they take the best girls too. The girls don't know, oh, my buddy's sleeping on the couch at his mom's house.

He's the one paying for the whole—

he's pretending like it's his table. So they're— I'm like, I just want to tell the girl, please don't get pregnant by this dude, you're going to hate your life. But they don't know any better cuz they— cuz he would be gucci'd out, you know, diamonds, bling and everything. Half the shit's fake anyways. But that's what, that's what these women would see, or these girls would see. And later on, I stopped. I started filling my tables up with girls. So like my birthday weekend, I was already done with hanging out with guys. So when I go to a club, I show up by myself, I got a big table, bring all your girls over. It would be me and tables filled with girls. Because if I'm gonna pay, yeah, I'd rather pay for women to be in there. Let's have a good time and let's see where it goes.

That's dope.

Yeah. And that's—

so you had a great time that night.

Yes, you did. Yes, we did. We did. Well, and that's— and then after that, after we— then, you know, of course we, we were inseparable forever, pretty much after that.

Yeah, every single day.

Every single day. So we were having these conversations, and it was, it was refreshing because I, I was really not messing with I don't think I was really messing with any girls under or over 30 at that point. So it was always in their 20s.

True that men have a cutoff age or something.

Well, it wasn't, um, it wasn't by design, but it was the places I was hanging out. That's where, that's where these girls were. And I was, I wasn't looking for anything either. So for me, it was, I figured out relationships, it's either going to be transformational or transactional. Okay, so for a long time I was cool with transactional because it was easy. So I meet you in the club, we do what we do, I buy you a pair of red bottoms, we're done, next. And that was kind of— that was transactional. And they, they— I mean, they were willing to give up the most valuable thing they had for a pair of red bottoms. And what is that, to be exact?

That pussy.

That's— I mean, that's the most valuable thing a woman has. And they give it for, like, for me, a pair of red bottoms was like, you know, going to In-N-Out Burger. Yeah.

Yeah.

Because it didn't mean anything. That was meaningless to me. And now it meant something to her. But I would, I know, because I would tell her, I would go date strippers and stuff and I would try to educate them. Like, listen, you only got so much time to do this. So number one, you're not paying your taxes. Number two, you're not saving your money. So at some point you're going to hit an age where your knees don't hold up anymore.

And they getting these air shots. It's just like more pressure on the ankles and knees.

What are you going to do? Because these guys, now there's a new breed, a new fresh batch of 18-year-olds that are willing to do what you can't do or won't, you know what I mean? And so you have to prepare yourself. But when I met Najla, it became transformational. Because I saw someone who had the characteristics I look for in business, you know, the burning desire, willing to work, and humble and coachable. And by the way, I didn't ask him for anything either. Yeah, she never asked for shit, which was, you know, that was a whole different deal.

Yeah. You know, because, man, yeah.

And I said later on, you had the best game of any.

But my mama told me that early, like, you know, it's just kind of like when you know it's the one that you want, like, yeah, just it's kind of like, what do you bring to the table? Able, like, especially if you know that this can be long-term. And so I know she, she knows. She knew her mama raised her away.

Oh yeah, her mama's an old school player too. So they all— that whole family's got game, trust me.

So the family loves you?

Yeah.

Oh, they were—

well, they were really concerned about Dad at first, and then they told me Dad was an entrepreneur, and I said, just get Dad to the house. And, you know, so You know, I have a house on the top of Camelback Mountain, 4 stories with elevator, the whole bit.

Once Dad is here, Dad's gonna be fine as long as his daughter's in good hands.

Exactly. And that's exactly what happened. We walked around the house, he kept saying, man, because you could see the whole city, and he was like, he's like, man, just, you know, take care of, take care of my baby. And, uh, and we just had a good conversation. And, and yeah, him and I are buddies. And, and Mom loves me because every now and then I slide her $100 bill when we're at dinner. And, and, uh, you know, of course, of course.

No, but I love her.

Like She really— because my mom left. So, you know, when people— I don't say, I don't say that's my mother-in-law. I say that's my mother. My mother's from Trinidad.

And have you talked to your mom though? Like, has she left?

We would— Nazluk encouraged me to reach out and I didn't. And she just— yeah, she's not interested. Yeah, she's just, you know, she's got issues, you know, a lot of emotional trauma. She grew up in that same neighborhood, which was destructive to the human spirit. And especially destructive to women. Hard enough to be, you know, a boy growing up in that. But you have, on top of everything else, you have the music that kind of directs young women now. I mean, I can't even imagine growing up, you know, listening to Sexyy Red as a 15, 16-year-old girl and thinking— and I, you know, I listen to it now because the beat is great, and you— but you get caught up in this playing in the clubs. But I'm thinking, man, this stuff is being Programmed.

She's smart. And I don't have to tell her.

My 14-year-old, to Aaliyah, there you go.

She's very old school, got an old spirit, you know what I'm saying? So I'm glad. She was like, uh, sexy? Who? No, no. Like, yeah, she's like, uh-uh. And she was like, I don't even hang with girls that look and act like that.

Yeah.

So it kind of depends, you know.

Yeah.

Have a certain demographic that they're going after. My daughter's just like, no.

And thank God, because— and I'm glad to hear that. And that's Because I believe everything you put up here is being registered somewhere. That's why, you know, if you see enough— a person sees enough violence, you become desensitized by it. You see enough sex, you become desensitized by it. And if you got people talking shit— and I mean, again, I see these young girls, and because I have 4 daughters, and it's the reason why God gave me daughters.

I was gonna say, most men who are abandoned by their mothers have an underlying hate towards women. And I think God did you a number by giving you daughters. He for sure did have a mother.

No, because my dad was like, fuck bitches, they ain't shit, because of what, you know, his experiences. So my brother and I kind of, we inherited that. And then when my first daughter was born, I was— I said, I don't need no ultrasound. I know for a fact it's a boy. There's no possibility that I'm making a girl. Lauren is born. I'm like, are you sure? They said it's a girl. I said, are you— double check. Maybe it's just a little smaller than—

so you don't have any boys?

No boys. And, and it was, it was my dog. I tell the story of the, my second felony when I was 24 years old and how it was, it was Lauren, my oldest daughter, who just made me a granddaddy 2 weeks ago, by the way.

Congratulations.

Thank you. And so that's where my boy came from, okay, as a grandparent. But it was sitting on the bullpen floor in the Milwaukee county jail. And because I got arrested in front of my 2-year-old daughter and all that, I was stuck there for 4 days sitting on that floor. And what kept playing in my mind was Lauren's face as I was being led out of my home. And something that I have now tattooed on my arm that I got when I was in a drug rehabilitation program, it said, a good man leaves an inheritance for his children's children. So here I am, 24 years old, supposed to be a grown man, sitting here about to face some serious time for what I did. And all that I kept thinking was Lauren's face. I kept seeing her face crying. She didn't know exactly what was going on. And that a good man leaves inheritance for his children's children. Here I am, I can't even take care of the one I got.

Get your shit together.

And I made it, you know, you ever, you ever drink too much and you're over the toilet saying, God, just let me out of this. I'll never drink again. Yeah, that was me. Like, God, just let me out of this. I will not commit another crime. I'm going to get my shit together. And I made a decision on that bull— I had now had to deal with the legal ramifications for my deal, but I never got arrested again after that. Never had those same type of issues. But it was because I had daughters. My daughters became my reason why to be a better man, to be a better father. Because had I had a boy, I probably would have carried on my dad's legacy. Not that my dad was a bad person, but my dad was dealing with his own issues and spilled over to us. And we watched, I mean, my brother and I watched the, the, the turmoil in that house, you know. And the whole neighborhood knew. The neighborhood knew us because, you know, you're, you're on top of each other. These neighborhoods were packed in a house, you know. There's 3 families in one house. Next door there's 5 families. We're just everybody. And, and they fought like crazy out in the streets. And, you know, and we were kids watching this shit. And, and that's— that was what I had. So I never had peace in my home. Until— well, now I have peace in my home all the time. So it's, yeah, it's a, it's a good, it's a good feeling when you have someone that wants to see you do better. When, when you have someone that, that watching what you eat, making sure that you exercise, is concerned about your longevity, and you being healthy, you know, I mean, I see I'm on Instagram, and you guys are working out together.

You're doing businesses together, like you making dollars a month for him and shit. I know I had put out like that Tina Knowles wine. We call it wine when we spill the business over here.

I love it, I love it.

Not tea, it's gonna be strong.

I like the wine better.

I had announced, you know, Tina Knowles wasn't with her husband no more, you know, Richard. And I said, and I said, he gaining some weight. You know, stomach was getting big. And Tina on the road with Beyoncé. I said, so she neglecting her husband and she didn't wish him no happy— I said, see what I'm talking about? That's when you know a man got a woman that love him, you know what I'm saying?

There's no question.

All the time, the stomach kind of coming out, baby. He get— he got that, right?

Okay, well, it's funny, on social media I'll have brothers come on there and tell me, oh, if you didn't have any money, or or she's just waiting for you to die.

Or—

and I'm like, bro, I know, but I'm like, she's trying to keep me alive. What? Like, your philosophy is wrong because she's got me eating better, doing all this shit that's going to keep me around longer.

And who gives a fuck? Yeah, men buy pussy, women sell it. It's a problem.

It's insane.

I've been married 18 years and I literally have to make deals with my husband. He said, so you want this, right? I'm like, yeah. He said, well, well, what you gonna do for it?

See, that's from the beginning of time. This is how we do it. Wake your ass up. Wake your ass up. Let's go.

All right, fuck it. He said, see, I'll tell you yes anytime you want. Just tell me yes, I'll tell you yes. Yes. I'm like, but I can make my own money. He said, but I, I could save you some time.

I could save you some energy. Just wake your ass up right now. We don't need a long time.

So, Najla, so you grew up pretty traditional?

Um, sort of.

Both parents?

No, no parents. Um, my mom was a single mom for some time. She has 6 girls. Damn, I'm the 5th. There's one younger.

A lot of women in your family.

Oh yeah, that's why I knew I was—

all my sisters have daughters. I have 6 nieces.

So it's so Girls galore, women everywhere.

Um, didn't grow up with both my parents. Um, I think they divorced sometime around when I was born.

Okay.

My dad has other kids too.

Are you the baby?

Um, with my mom and dad's.

Okay, so she's remarried? And well, she did.

She is remarried now. Okay. But yes, she did. One after me, and then my dad had about 4 or wait, 2.

How many does your dad have total?

My dad has 16 kids.

All right. Okay.

So he had 4.

That's pretty normal.

Yeah.

My dad got the same amount too.

Yeah. So yeah, my mom, she raised us, a lot of us. We were strong and she's from the Caribbean too. So.

Oh yeah, they be cleaning, they cook, they, you know, they say stuff about their mom, but I'm like, your mom, right? Like they're—

Yeah.

Like this our house is always organized. It's always clean. There's always home-cooked meals. And that came from Sharon. Mama Sharon.

Wow. Now, did you always date white guys?

No, but in my later—

I mean, now this is an equal opportunity opportunist.

Yeah, I think around— so I did in high school date Black men, but I dated all races.

So it's just whatever, like Black men do.

Yeah, so I just liked everything.

Yeah, she is Chinese. She's told me stories, Indian, like everything. She's been around the United Nations, like, of dating.

But everybody else, yeah, I had an Asian guy. It was, you know, I tell us all that he owned a beauty supply store and Oh, so you got a hookup? I did. He has money and stuff. I said stick around, right? He couldn't stick and I couldn't stick.

Yes, I just, I just read between the lines. You guys were scissoring? Like, what the hell?

Pretty much.

Yeah.

Goodness.

Um, and so like, okay, so you've always— so you had no problem Now, have you ever, like, you know, where you grew up— where'd you grow up?

I grew up in Scottsdale, Arizona.

Okay, so growing up, you know, Arizona, you know, any Black kids I meet from Arizona, they pretty much are— they date anybody. And a lot of the Black men that come out of Arizona only date Latin women or white women. They rarely ever— because they say it's not that many Black girls around anyway in Arizona. So, and the ones that do, like, I guess you gotta have some money, you know, like, women kind of know their worth. But, um, yeah, yeah, so they went to the big bone white girl, you know what I'm saying? They ain't caring with a bob and some hoops.

Oh, that is that love reject. Oh my God, but listen, you are wild. You are wild.

All that short, big titties, you know what I'm saying? So they didn't have many options, you know. So I said, it's throwaway white women, there's a throwaway black man, make all the babies they want.

Oh my goodness.

But every race. But so coming up, so have you ever, like, people have ever called you like names for dating white guys or guys outside of your race? Or is this something that you only experience on the internet?

I experience it now because there's two factors now. He's older than me, so we're age gap and we're interracial. So now the two together is just people just hate it. They first talk shit about the age thing, and then after that's done, they'll talk about the race. But it's just— it never happened until recently because we just— John, we post everything.

So that's awesome.

Well, that's what— that's really what it is, is that we don't really get it like walking down the street. Like, yeah, most of the negativity comes from people behind keyboards. It's very rare. Like, you know, every now and then we'll get something like at a nightclub Um, but it's, it's pretty rare. And it's just online. Yeah, online is where all the, the big gangsters apparently are. Um, they don't—

so no Black men have ever tried to like come up on you and check you for being with her?

No, no. I've had, um, because it's mostly Black men, ain't it? Well, it's—

yeah, yeah.

So, but when I'm out, I'm usually with Like, I'm— the places I go, I'm surrounded by my friends who happen to be Black men as well. So if there is somebody that would probably want to say something and they see who I'm with, they usually don't. They don't, you know what I mean? Because it has happened a couple of times, and then my friends will usually get involved, or I don't have to even say shit. So, but it's rare. It's rare that happens outside. It's almost 99% on online?

No, it's Black men and white women. I was gonna say, yeah, older white women.

And see, white women, the problem with them, just like how the white man was fucking the Black women and asking them what to do with their business and how to build and what slaves to buy, all types of shit. Black woman was running all that. Yeah, the white women was fucking the nigga slaves. Yeah, they even, they was the reason why people say, oh, 'Oh, you know, uh, white women moved us forward because they were being oppressed too.' No, they didn't want to go to jail or be beat for fucking on niggas. So that's why they did that shit. Now, yeah, it has some other things, but they ultimately was the one that freed us all because, you know, Emmett Till, anything. Yeah, they just got tired of that because they would get punished too. Yeah, but the Black women wouldn't get punished for fucking on their husbands that was a plantation owner. So it was kind of like this, yeah, you know, why— hold on, why do I get in trouble but you get to do right? So they got tired of being oppressed. Can't vote, can't do that, can't fuck. They man ain't fucking on them, so what are they supposed to do? So they end up falling in love with the slaves and stuff like that. So that's what I was going to ask you, you know, because the white women, especially down here where I'm at, they bold. They walk right—

you would think they would stop being so bold. Like the whole term Karen, like Like, I would be— I would not want to be labeled a Karen.

Yeah, you would.

You— have you not been on social media, lady? Like, don't even say it. I know what you're about to say.

I'm a Black Karen.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Call the police on you.

Oh, that— yeah, all right, I got that.

If I feel that my life or somebody else's life—

well, yeah, I get that.

I'm gonna try to Fight you, I'm trying to kick the car, and then I'm calling the police on you, you know what I'm saying?

Like, Black— hey, Black women can fight too. In junior high, that's one thing every white boy knew. You, you, you could fight the Black boys. Do not, do not mess with the Black girls. Yeah, because they fought different.

Oh no, we, we fight.

They're— yeah, they had the energy, they had the stamina, they had the nails. Yeah, you, you would come out messed up. You can't get beat up by a girl.

So what was the income gap between y'all when you met? You gotta be honest.

Significant at when we met.

Sure.

22, just graduated.

What'd you graduate school for?

I went to school for speech therapy. So speech pathology, teaching kids who have speech impediments or like—

She's helped me a lot.

Or adults who may have had a stroke and they need help rehabilitating their speech.

So yeah. Oh shit. Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

So she had— and so it was funny because she had a job doing what her degree said she should do, but it was messing with our travel shit because I'd be like, well, let's go to Mexico or let's go to Europe or let's go whatever.

And then did you say quit that fucking job?

That's exactly what I said. I said, you're going to have to go quit because Yeah, and she— yeah, she didn't give me a hard time.

Money? No job?

Shit. I offered her— I offered her—

well, I just broke my lease and just moved in.

Yeah, so that was right after that.

How long after?

2 months.

Damn. So yeah, and I did— I did pay for her lease to be, you know, because she still had plenty of time. So I negotiated with her. Yeah, I negotiated with her apartment complex to let her out. And that's just money. And we took care of that. And she moved in. And that was it. And then we were— then we were traveling. We didn't— for like the first 3 years, we didn't have anything to really do. But hang out, travel, eat.

Did you get pregnant?

Yeah, she stayed on the birth control.

That's good. Yeah. So that probably said— that's probably said a lot too. Like, she She ain't pregnant yet.

No, she—

everybody always wants— is asking us about babies.

But girl, wait, we're living.

Yeah, hey, come on, chill out.

I was the one at first like starting to push it a little bit. I'm like, well, it would be good, it would be great to have a boy. And so, you know, now money can also help guarantee you a boy. So I'm like, so we actually went to a fertility thing and saw the different options that could happen to make— because I knew I'm gonna, I'm gonna have a girl if we do it naturally. I'm most likely— because my track record so bad. And then all these girls on your side. So we're going to turn to science. But then the world is different. First off, there's so much hate. You got, you get the black-white, there's a lot of that. You have political hate. I mean, just hate. We're divided in so many ways. And then you have this thing in school where, you know, like, I don't, I don't necessarily want my boy to go to school and then someone teach them maybe they should be a girl. Yeah, I don't, and I don't even know how that works or how that goes. But you hear stuff. So I'm like, I want to deal with this stuff.

They won't teach us about money.

Teach us money. That's what I'm— what the most— the biggest stress you're gonna have when you get out of school is what? Money.

They won't teach you about money, but they teach you about all other shit that they got.

Don't teach these kids that shit. Once they get their financial lives together, then they can go sex change if they want.

See, he ain't here.

That's a diff—

that's—

I don't know why we're doing that in America. They ain't doing this shit in China. They ain't do— man, we're teaching these kids to do TikTok videos, but we're not teaching them how to manage checkbook or how to start a business. I mean, and that's going to be their biggest stresses in life.

Yeah, so that's, that's, um, I'm glad you, you know, you're on to something. I can see why you always on podcasts and stuff like that because you got a lot of knowledge. I haven't had a chance to listen.

Thank you.

To a lot of the podcasts that you do do. I know you guys have your own podcast, right?

I did. Well, I had the Build Your Empire podcast because I own the build— I own the Instagram Build Your Empire page.

So you teach people how to build?

Yeah, I teach people entrepreneurship, like like teach you how to become self-sufficient, you know, how to not be dependent on somebody or something. That goes for women too. Like, the minute you are dependent on a man, men take advantage of that shit. You spoke on that already.

I try to tell them, I want a man that makes 6 figures.

No, no, that—

first of all, there ain't no more fucking money.

Yeah, yes, I was gonna say 6 figures. Yeah, you ain't living anymore. No, 6 figures a month, now you're talking.

Going to the IRS because it's Taxes are going up, inflation. You're gonna be realistically making $50,000, $40,000 a year with somebody, you know what I'm saying? So like, but women don't see that and they think they can just have all these babies off of that. And that motherfucker talking shit because he know his paycheck ain't shit. And then never, you know, you divorce, you ain't got no backup plan because you depended on being a motherfucker housewife. You can do both at the same time. So yes, that's what I do. I just don't get it today. I'm gonna have you back here.

Yeah, I would love to come back.

Absolutely.

But we should, we need to be teaching financial literacy early. Kids get it. You kids want to know about money. They want to learn.

Absolutely.

So if we take the time to show them and how this stuff works, it's like, it's like my mentor Jim Rohn would say, you should have a bike to ride and a bike to rent. You start teaching kids this early, they, they're not going to be in these dead-end jobs. Then, you know, I see these people coming out of, uh, college 10 years later still paying for college. How you still got student loans? You're still in debt. You could have been— or go do a trade, go become an electrician or a You know, some of these trades, you can, you can make, if you want to make six figures, that's the fastest path.

My daughter just asked me the other day, she said, Mom, what's a trade school? I looked at her.

They don't teach, they're not even teaching these kids this stuff.

They don't know what a trade school is. I was like, damn. So I had to break it down to her. She was like, are you serious? You could just leave school and just go learn what you learn? I said, yeah, you could be able to do that. I know in Europe they do it. You know, you go right into being an accountant and working as an accountant or working as a lawyer. I know an anesthesiologist that went to school in 4 years. In, in the UK. Oh wow. You know how long it takes to become an anesthesiologist over here and how much debt you're gonna be in, right? This guy was already a multi-millionaire by the time he was 30, sold his anesthesiology business, and he was traveling the world. See, in the UK, like, he's like, we, we go right out of high school into our— what we're doing here, they're gonna make—

this is money for everybody. Everybody's taking a piece of all your shit.

Everything.

And then, then the tax man is because he waiting at the end. You don't got nothing if you ain't make— if you ain't making $100,000 a month today, you are gonna— you, you're gonna struggle, shit, right?

So yeah, I'm gonna definitely have you back for entrepreneurial experience.

Yeah, I would love to.

That stuff. And you too. And so the thing about it is, what I want to ask you was, um, for both of y'all, because I know you go through a lot of online hate and stuff, and I, I would love to keep y'all here, and I know y'all got to go, you know what I'm saying? But You know, do you— how can I put this without—

yeah, don't start being politically correct now.

What would you tell— what would you tell women today that want to find love, that are waiting on their knight in shining armor? And I say it all the time, your knight in shining armor is just a Black man. That's it. It's just a fucking Black man. Like, it ain't nobody. He ain't coming to ride through the same shit. You understand? Yeah. What would you say to women, to young women out there these days and these times where Black men now, and I know you see them being boisterous, they're high value, they're this, they're exercising their options, and Black women are just dead set on, I'm waiting for my knight and shine it on, right? And he ain't waiting for them. What would you say? Um, just now getting the mic, girl.

I would say that stop focusing on, um, on the color of like who your man is. Like, just as long as he's a good person and he can take care of you, provide for you, um, treat you with respect, which is number one before anything, and and just lift, lift you up every single day. Like, I, I see online like comments, I could never, I could never, you know, just because they're white. But you haven't been in a relationship for almost 10 years, so what are you waiting for? You're waiting for this man that might not be there for you. You might be single for the rest of your life, or you might settle for something that you might not like. So just don't Look with your eyes, look with your heart.

Oh, and make sure he can throw down in the bedroom. So otherwise, it's gonna go south.

And what would you tell Black women? Because, you know, they're— the numbers are here. Like, there's more Black women out here that are single than ever before. They're making more money. The men— the, the— because men are in prison, you know, because of what's happened over 400 years and stuff like that. Yeah, men are in prisons, they're underpaid. You know, it's just a lot going on out here. So the options are low, but they're waiting. You know what I'm saying? Are there a lot of white men that you know?

Oh, man, I got—

with money that don't—

they, they are— now, as I talk about this, we in our circle, yeah, my white boyfriends are coming up because They want to be with Black women. Black women are intimidating to most white men initially, and a lot of it has to do again with ignorance. They're not sure, you know, there's, there's cultural differences, there's what the media portrays Black people to be. And, and so, but today it's different. Today times have changed. Like, the white boys around me, they want this. They want, they want a relationship that it's, it's together. They want a relationship where they're building. I think you're more likely— and look, I Most of my, most of my friends happen to be Black. Well, I, I believe that— see, I have people on my Instagram recently say the ancestors are rolling over in their grave. Now I'm gonna, I'm gonna get to a point. They're gonna say the ancestors are mad about this relationship. I said, well, listen, what I believe, if we go far enough back, like, I believe that we all come from one— again, if you read ancient scripts, so let's just say you believe in Adam and Eve or some version of that. Most likely that didn't happen in the United States. That was probably somewhere in Africa. It happened in Africa, which would, which would suggest to me they didn't look like me. Adam and Eve didn't look like me. They looked more like you. So that tells me that our ancestors, if you go far enough back, were Black. And then I watched a program called Journey of Man where a dude did DNA testing, which basically proved this out.

Out.

Yeah, that, that DNA testing, mitochondrial.

Yeah, everybody's related to the mitochondrial.

We all came from the same damn place. So we get so hung up on the color of skin, and I, I get Black women in my, my DMs all the time now saying, do you have a brother, uncle, whatever? And yeah, and my—

they even take your dad.

Yeah, they'll say my dad's— I have one lady, I'll take your granddaddy, whatever, which told me, which basically sums up— if I'm seeing that all the time, it's telling me they're having a hard time finding what they're looking for. And sometimes because of the pressure from society to stay in this lane, and that lane might not be good for you. And that's what— and a lot of times I see these women, they have pressure from their families. They have— because we'll get a— she'll get them too. Like, I'm dating a guy who's older than me, but I can't tell my family. I love this man, but everybody thinks I'm a gold digger. And so they never engage in that relationship, or they never— and then it does become, you know, because they're worried about what people—

they're worried about people think too much, what people think.

And I'm telling Black women, stop giving up what other people think, because you're going to end up at some point, you're going to end up at a certain age alone and lonely. And that, that man could be out there 50, 60 years old messing around with 20-year-olds still making babies, still doing whatever the fuck they want. And I just see, I see women wasting their time looking for the guy to pull up on the night in shining armor. It's the Black man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. It's the man.

Yeah, I see it all the time. It's like I teach my girls, you know, my second oldest daughter is so much like me, you know, she has a Black boyfriend. She's so much like me, That's mine. Yeah. And, and she's got that gene, whatever it is, she's attracted to Black people. And I know there's Black women that are naturally attracted to white men, but they can't say it in their environment. You know what I mean? So I don't know, man, you— I think you gotta, you gotta dig deep and say, who the fuck am I?

Black men have never been shy to say that they were attracted to white women or Asian women. They are so bold getting online saying, I don't date Black women, I don't do this. I think I saw a video years ago with a football player who was toasting up— they had a bunch of white women at the table, there were Black men, and they were like, shout out to our light-skinned kids and our white women and everything like that. And I was just like, these niggas is bold, right?

Yeah, but if you do that, if you do that, right?

Oh my God.

Oh Lord, they're coming for you.

But you You know what, I don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, it's like, it's about you being happy. And so my thing is, if they ain't gonna go to Africa to get no black man, it's crazy because I'll have American black women that won't even date an African because he's not from here. Oh, he's this, he's that. What? Yeah, that's the original fucking— he ain't inferior to nobody. Like, man, as inferior— where is black men here? We're trained to be inferior to white men.

Well, African men are some of the most positive people about our relationship. It's American men that have an issue.

Yes.

But men in Africa are like, they're inviting us to come to their house, break bread, come meet their families. Like, they fucking love us.

Yeah, they don't see— they don't see— and when you go over there and see— so I'm like, listen, if you're not gonna take your ass to the Caribbean to get on, nigga, you're not gonna take your ass to Africa Well, where you gonna go? To the prison? You gonna go down there and wait for him to get out? That's who you waiting on? And then you complaining that he ain't making the same kind of money as you, but yet you got a white man over here. And I used to bartend a lot, right? Whether it was in strip clubs, whether it was in restaurants and stuff. And I'm gonna be honest with you, they— I was the only person working the bar because it was only white. I only worked in establishments where white people came and patroned, and I would be the bartender working, or the server, And these white men can be married to white women, baby, by themselves.

I already know.

I would rack the fuck up every day. I would tell them so bad. I'm like, Jim, you came in here and tipped me $2, give me your wallet. He's like, Tasha, I just gave you $100. Give me that shit. And they would come like— they— I would— the bartenders would leave for 3 hours and every one of them are walking home with $200, $300 and I'm still staying open to close, and I walk out with $1,000 working a bar in a restaurant, you know what I'm saying? And I'm talking to white men, they're like, can you come work for me? Can you be my wife? I'm sorry, I'm already married.

I'm gonna let you in on a little secret.

Go ahead.

White people want to be Black people. Just think about it just for one second. When I was growing up, all of my heroes were Black, from Michael Jordan, um, Denzel Washington. I can go right Like, you, you, in every category, it was, it was Black people dominating in every category. Everything that I was into, from music— Will Smith was, was, you know, whether he was on The Fresh Prince or starting to make movies. I can go on, on NW, all the stuff I listened to, it was— and this was most white people, they, they came up, at least my generation, Gen X, came up with Black people dominating Everything from sports to entertainment. And so when I see this, this division now, it's not reality. It's a manufactured division for political— but now, am I saying all white people are not racist? I'm not saying that. But I am telling you, I say it all the time, these white people, they want to be around Black people. They want to be Black people. They— yeah, Black people are cool. Black people can dance, they can jump, and we go on and on. White, white people are considered corny. Uh, they can't dance, they can't jump. All the things you don't want to be, white people have that label. So I'm just telling you.

And that's why I like to take it a little deeper too, because people are like, well, where does white supremacy come from, right? Yeah, it comes from the fact that— and I say this, and I'm telling you, I'm public enemy number one— white men understand that if they don't protect the white race, we will turn it— there's no more white.

Yeah. Yeah.

And that's the— that's what they are afraid of. Like, we're going to be extinct. But you have to understand, it's not that you were extinct. You came from us.

Yes.

And you will leave from us.

It's the dominant— it's the dominant gene. There's again It's a damn dominant gene. I have red hair. My shit wasn't dominant. My shit's getting washed out.

Like, you gotta understand that. So, and I was telling the pilot that when I was flying. Well, you know, because he was going to another plane, so he was sitting beside me. We were talking, and I said, you have to understand, I said, black men, you know, black men are not a threat to white men physically, but they are a threat generationally. Generational wealth.

Yeah.

So they had— it's like there's this group that just wants to keep it pure because they understand that once you start mixed breeding and stuff, it's like, where would the white race go? And so they're just trying to protect that. And it's like, but if God wanted to protect it, he wouldn't have made it to where y'all came from us, then you're gonna leave from us.

Yeah, I, I look, I believe that. And I, and every chance I get to, to— and, and because I— that's what I believe. And, and I have, I have an incredible wife, I have an incredible family. I have my 14-year-old Cody. Shout out to Cody, my little— she claims Black, my little, uh, my little mulatto baby. And it's the most incredible thing because like Cody, she goes— she can pass for anything. We're in Hawaii, they think she's Hawaiian. We're in Mexico, they think she's Mexican. You know, as soon as she gets a little sun on her, she turns really Black. So she like this kid— I, I tell her, and I'm still like, you can go anywhere and be anything you want. You're not limited you know, because you're, you're everything. You just take the best of both worlds.

Yes.

And that's why the royal family was so— we've been trying to keep this shit pure.

Yeah, they didn't like that so much.

Harry, the only chick around here, they're trying to find out who his mama is.

Yeah, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like, and that's why they're like, we're not giving them— but you can't escape this. So no, no matter how much they try to keep or try to teach Black people that we're— you are beneath us. No, we're not. No. We're here, but we don't seek to destroy. You know what I'm saying? Because we feel threatened. I told them Black people would have never discovered a motherfucking thing if white people didn't show up. Y'all came to us. We was on Africa chilling, hanging knees in the shoreline. We went to get fish and come back. And it's still like that. I said, but only white people have sought out to conquer. I'm telling you, because they're afraid, like they can really take us out. You understand what I'm saying? They could take us out genetically, physical-wise. They can do things that we can't do. And so I tell them that all the time, but I'm like, but Black people, we just seek to have a good time and mind our business.

And white people are always on edge. It's like, you know, Chappelle, like white people are always testing the cliff. Bungee jumping, jump out of airplanes.

They think somebody gonna come collect one day. And I'm like, no, the collection is through the DNA. That's where ultimately it's going to end up, and there's nothing you can do about it. So, and that's what they're trying, and I hate that because it's like, we're supposed to, we weren't supposed to integrate. It wouldn't be that way, but we are.

We are.

And I'm glad that you guys are living so boldly. I love that you're in love. I love that you're, even though you're young, you get it. You ain't finna struggle for no motherfucking body.

And she shouldn't, and you shouldn't. And Women should not. It's my mandate to protect and provide. So when someone calls her a gold digger, I'm like, well, what am I supposed to— what do you think I'm supposed to do? My role on this planet is to protect and to provide.

And love don't pay bills.

And I wouldn't even let her. I wouldn't even let her. You think I'm gonna let her pay my shit? I would feel less of a man. Like, to me, I'm proud of the fact that I go out and earn big-ass money to do what I do. You know what I mean? I like— I don't know, when I hear guys, so I just say, that's— you're clearly— you're fucking broke when you're, you know, you're talking shit like this. You clearly have no money.

You say can't compete, and a man knows. And I know that because my mom taught me the game real early. Motherfucker gonna try you the way you let him try you. Yeah. So he comes to the table with no money or nothing to give, like, for Black women, we'll take it. We'll take a dream real easy. But if— here's the thing, You better put forth that action first, you know what I'm saying? I gotta see the work ethic. You got the work ethic, we can build any shit.

Yeah.

And as long as— and two, you gotta keep your dick in the house. Yes. Only because—

and it's easy to do that when you have the right person and, and we're on the same page and we cover it. Look, think about the ground we cover from a business standpoint. It's the ultimate. Yeah, Black, whites covered. Covered. Less mature, more mature. It's all covered. You know, millennial, Gen X. I mean, we caught mentality like, you can't stop us. How are you going to stop us? When we're in business, the shit we can do together. Like, if I, if I know I can't cover that, she got it. She can't cover that, I got it. That like, you build a relationship. And I'm not saying like, because sometimes people think, especially white people, they end up marrying people that look like their brother or sister. And, and somehow that's okay. But because we don't look like brother and sister, somehow that's wrong.

But that baby, if you have a son, that's gonna be a Black man for sure. He can— he's going to be perceived by the world as a Black man, right? And so, and you taking what your ancestors taught you and putting that in a Black man, what does that do for the Black man?

Powerful.

Who is that Black man gonna somebody that looked like his mama.

Yep, yep.

You know what I'm saying? So, yep, I love it.

I love it.

I love y'all. Like I said, that shit was gangster what you said on social media, and I said I need that cracker here right now, right?

I'm glad you— I'm glad you— I'm glad you did. This was— this was—

listen, thank you. So enjoy your life, enjoy your money, enjoy each other, and I'm definitely gonna have you back, especially entrepreneurial things, because we do talk a lot about that, and I'd love to get back, you know, especially to, you know, the community as a whole, you know, and especially women, because we, we, we cater to 95% women. And, you know, them understanding what it takes as a woman, what type of man they need in their corner, you know, to do the things that they deserve to do. No Black woman should have to struggle and work hard, even though we do that anyway because we got it in us, but we can make it easier. And so I love that you got it real early and, um, you gonna continue to get it. And don't let nobody tell you nothing different. Fuck these broke ass niggas. Fuck them. I'ma clip that and put it out. Fuck you if your wallet can't match his ass. Fuck you. Thank you, thank you so much. And please tell everybody where they can follow you, your businesses, all of that shit.

Yeah, well, for me, Instagram is probably the best place.

Uh, it's, it's at John, J-O-H-N, dot Malott, M-A-L-O-T-T, and, um, at Naj Malott, N-A-J-M-A-L-O-T-T.

Okay, and your business?

Oh, business, oh snap, Active Lifestyle.

So it's, it's without the H, so O-S-N-A-P, Active Lifestyle.

Okay, are you vegan, plant-based? What are you?

No, I eat meat, but, um, I try to stay away from dairy. I'm mostly dairy Okay.

Yeah, like, like we, we're very healthy people, but you don't have to just eat grass all day long to be healthy, right? So, you know, we had a little lamb the other night and we got a reservation at Carbone because Drake said it's hard to get. So I said, let me, let me go get a reservation there.

Poppy's is better. Poppy's Steak.

Okay, we'll try that too. We hit them all. We hit them all. And anyone that tells me it's hard to get a reservation. That's where I— that's where I'm going.

Poppies, if you got the money, they gonna be like, move your shit, let's go, get up.

We went to Queen the other day, it was good.

It was good.

Oh, you gotta—

Queen is— yeah, that's the venue's insane.

Okay, okay, I'll try it. Definitely.

Yes.

So thank you so much, appreciate y'all taking like your personal time out to discuss your personal lives. I'm from the Wild Ones, gonna eat this stuff. And all you gotta do is look at that camera way. Now I gotta go.

Gotta go. Bye everybody, thanks for tuning in.

Thanks to the Malats. I appreciate y'all.

See, that wasn't bad. No, that was— see how simple that was?

I was still quiet. You were, because you're—

I love—

she's so submissive. I'm the same way. Like, I talk a lot, but my husband talks—

yes, when he talks.

Yeah, she just lets me go. And she sometimes, like, she'll tap because I can go. So typically that tapping up.

Yeah, no, that's good though. You gotta put that knowledge out, like you gotta put it out. So like I said, I would love to hear— I think, Ernie, is it like a long time here for you guys?

No.