No Permission Needed To Be Yourself—How To Break Through Your Fears

Hey, it's Mark Podolski, the land geek with your favorite niche real estate website, www.thelandgeek.com. and today's guest is what I like to say, the coolest guy in the room. But before we get to our guest, I'd be remiss if I didn't properly introduce my co host, Six Sigma. You know him, you love him. Scott Todd from scotttodd.net landmodo.com and and most importantly, if not automating your craigslist and your Facebook postings, posting Domination.com TheLandgeek Scott Todd, are you properly caffeinated for today's podcast?

I'm ready to go, Mark.

I'm ready. I'm ready. Today's podcast is sponsored by TL Folio.com which does not stand for Tate Litchfield, by the way.

It does not stand for that, but it's funny that people think that it is, right? It doesn't.

It doesn't. But sell your notes and get paid. It's pretty much unlimited funds. Learn more@tlfolio.com let's talk to our guest. His name is Odile Ozil de Bastos. Yes, that's his real name. He's a podcaster, a proud Gen Xer and a digital marketing strategist for Houston based creative marketing agency Record with a K. His goal is to provide early stage solopreneurs and creative, simple practical lessons that that Ozil has learned along his extensive creative journey. His mission is to share his journey with you of how to create, give and help a community of entrepreneurial minded individuals achieve their personal goals. And he knows what it's like spending endless hours researching, watching every webinar you can come across and suffocating yourself with information. And he's discovered the more you consume, the less you move forward with real action. Ozil, how are you?

I'm doing great. How are you doing?

I'm great, I'm great. Let's, let's rewind the clock, shall we?

And by the way, fantastic intro. I have have mad respect for podcast hosts that can rock an intro like that, Mark. And that's the best intro I've heard so far, man. So much respect and I love it.

Thanks, Luzee. I appreciate that.

Absolutely.

By the way, my head just got really big.

It's growing. I see it, dude.

I know. Scott, you better keep my ego in check on this podcast.

Yeah, you got it man. Just keep it rolling, Mark.

Keep it rolling, keep rolling. All right. All right, Ozil, let's go to your. Let's Just talk about your big aha moment. Tell us about that and what you learned from it.

The big aha moment. Wow. Let's take it back. So I was always growing up, have a lot of memories, just being fascinated by musicians and performance and so performance, expressing myself creatively. I was a breakdancer where it was travel and I was breakdancing all over, had breakdance crews and was involved in performance, and I was always the shy kid, the shy break dancer in the circle that was the last one to kind of get out and show and bust a move. So it took me a while to kind of crack that shell, but one day there was this big dance battle, dance off. And I decided to kind of get out there, and I was the last guy to get out. I was like, all right, man, what's your turn to go on? And I decided to step out of my comfort zone and express myself. And I remember there was a lot of people watching, and I was nervous as hell, but I went out there and just rocked it. And I remember everybody was like, you know, hollering and really just giving me a lot of respect. And it was kind of that aha moment that really broke me out of that timid Ozil shell and really kind of helped me get into that world of just. Just expressing myself and being who I was. So it took me a while, but that was kind of the aha moment from a personal standpoint. And that really kind of was. Was the pivotal moment in kind of giving, getting me involved in business and getting involved in helping other people as well. So breakdancing, breakdance battle actually got me. That was my aha moment to get out and do my thing. So.

Scott, Ty, what are your thoughts? Our first break dancer?

I wish I could break dance. I don't know. It's. It's cool story.

So, Ozil, how does that translate? That getting out of your comfort zone, that sort of taking this, you know, let's say this hidden sort of talent, right, that a lot of people can't do. But, you know, certainly, you know, judgment could be coming your way, whether positive or negative, right? And you just said, you know what? I'm gonna be me. And then how does that translate to you today with your podcast? No permission needed and just the things that you're doing creatively.

Right? So the name of the podcast, as you mentioned, is no Permission Needed. And it really was that moment where I had to give myself permission just to be myself. And it was a declaration, it was a statement that meant so much to me. And I remember getting out and seeing a lot of creatives struggle with being themselves, embracing business, becoming creative entrepreneurs, which back then it was unheard of, where we're just kind of the struggling artists. So that was. That's where it ties in. The no permission needed. It really ties into myself being this timid teenager, but that had so much potential, had so much in him to express himself to the world and share so much with the world. But I couldn't break that shell. Was always seeking validation, seeking opinions and criticism and just a fear of that. And I think that's something that relates to a lot of solopreneurs, freelancers and entrepreneurs at an early stage where they kind of are seeking that validation, are afraid to be themselves and voice. Right, to voice what they want to share with the world. So no permission. No permission needed is a declaration for those timid, those shy entrepreneurs that in the beginning stages that don't know how to quite be themselves. And I think that's important, and not so much from the business standpoint, but from a personal development standpoint, which I think goes hand in hand with entrepreneurship.

So let's say Scott Todd comes to you and he started this new company called TL Folio, and he's insecure about it, right? He wants to make a big splash, but then he's. He's got fears, he's got doubts. How do you help him break through? What would you say to Scott?

I think it has to do with figuring out, pinpointing exactly what he's afraid of, But I think it's just kind of scaling back and helping him either write out or record. And that's the reason why Mark and Scott, I'm so passionate about this online media economy, this world that we have so many things, whether it's voicing what we want to share with the world with podcasting and other platforms, video, written word, and I think just writing things out and just kind of writing the things out that he believes in his principles, his values, and I think just kind of peeling back the layers of that. I think it's a great start to kind of get somebody to a point where they can actually be themselves and. And really just face on. Just face the fears head on. Right? Face the dragon, face the thing that you're afraid of, and attack it. Attack it. Whether if you're afraid of sales, you know, asking for a discount, you know, afraid of marketing, kind of really stepping out and sharing that voice, or that thing that you're trying to promote to people. And I think it's just facing that specific thing. So I think it goes back to just a lot of personal development and really pinpointing the thing that you're afraid of most and then attacking it head on.

Scott, what are you most afraid of?

That's a great question.

I don't know.

You know, like, I don't know. Like, if you asked me, Mark, if you asked me like a year ago what I was afraid I'd say, like, standing up on my own and kind of not, not having a corporate job today.

Today.

I don't, I don't know. I guess more of what I fear is kind of like economy stuff or stuff that I can't manage at all.

Right.

Like, it's, it's stuff that's outside of my, My, my control. And so then, you know, I just bring. I just come back to. I can only focus on the stuff that I can manage or I can control. And beyond that, I just have to react when something happens. I can't. I can't worry about unknown factors or, you know, for example, like the economy. You can't worry about that because what am I gonna do about it?

No, it's true. Ozil, what's your biggest fear?

Oh, the biggest fear. Great question, Mark. Sometimes I've. I think that one of the biggest struggles that I've actually faced up to this point, Mark, and Scott is just really asking, you know, selling. I think a lot of creatives, the creatives that are listening, I think that's the biggest hurdle that we have to face and we have to jump over is. Is asking for that sale, saying, hey, listen, would you like to purchase this? I remember early on, I was. My first entrepreneurial business was actually selling Breakdance videos. I would go on, you guys remember AOL chats?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Old school days. Then that was, you know, that was the way we connected and chatted with each other. So I remember trying to sell Breakdance videos, and I was very shy. I was always kind of like undervaluing. I was, I was getting, like. I was building these relations with people. Break dancers from all over the world, Japan, Germany, they would send me these videos. And at the time was kind of illegal, but, you know, whatever. It was my first little project. So I was selling them, I was dubbing them, selling them. But I remember just being afraid I would give them away. And people were like, dude, why sell them? You know, why are you not selling these videos? They're international. They're things that people want to buy here in the States. So I think that's Kind of my biggest fear still, and I still kind of struggle with, is the sale, But I've gotten a lot better since then. But I think that's probably one of the things that I think a lot of creatives struggle with, and I still somewhat struggle with. Again, I've gotten a lot better, but it's always a challenge.

Yeah, I mean, I think one of my biggest fears now is kind of like, you know.

I'm at that.

Kind of that point in my life now where, you know, I have more than. More than enough. Right. You know, I work when I want, where I. Where I want, with whom I want. I have freedom, I have flexibility. I have all these amazing things. And so I think for me, the biggest fear is all of that kind of going away. And what does that look like? Could I, you know, how would I handle that? Right. And so I think for me, what helps is actually, like, what you said is actually voicing it and leaning into it a bit and feeling it and then kind of going through this mental model, well, what would life be like? And at the end of it, not much different, honestly. Like, I would figure it out. I've already figured it out a bunch of times. I'd figure it out again. I'd get on the phone with Scott, Todd, we would brainstorm for a couple hours, and boom, we're back.

There it is.

But it is the fear. I mean, Scott, you ever have that fear of, okay, I've got all the success. What happens if I lose it all?

Yeah, I mean, that's what I was saying about the economy, for example. You sit there and you think about, okay, well, man, what happens if the economy tanks? What am I going to do? And you can't live in fear of that because it's going to happen. It's just not. We know it's going to happen. So what can you do about it? Well, I can save some money, right? Like, I can build. Build savings. I can start to think about, like, what. What is plan B? Like, what is plan B?

Right?

Like, what's the backup plan?

What.

What game plan or strategy am I going to execute if this begins to happen? And, you know, so I think you start to think about those types of things, and then you can start to deal with kind of the unknowns. But if you're just focusing on, like, oh, man, I can't do it because, man, the stock market's going to tank any day now, boom, Then you live in fear. You don't take action at all. But, Mark, like what you said, if Something happens, then we brainstorm and then we take action.

Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing is that even in an uncertain world which we all live in, and there's so many things we can't control, you know, what we can control are our thoughts and our actions. And I think having that confidence can get you through a lot of things when you, when you embrace it. Ozil, when, what do you think of when you hear the word successful?

I think of being spiritually successful, financially successful, but just also, I mean those are just different elements. But the important thing is doing what you love and then pursuing the thing that you actually give yourself permission to pursue. And I think to me that's success. I've learned early on, Marcus Scott, that the money and I've never been a money chaser. I've always been just a bonafide creator where I really was always doing the thing that I love to do. And although early on I didn't accumulate a lot of financial wealth, there was a lot of spiritual and a lot of self fulfillment that I got from doing the thing that I love to do. To me, again, to answer your question, specifically, specifically is success is doing what you love to do and being, and owning it. Being completely just satisfied with saying this is enough. And of course there's a next level, but I'm going to embrace where I'm at now and then be present with it and just move forward. So that's to me the definition of success is just saying this is who I am now. This is what defines me right now. And I'm evolving and of course it can change next year, but this is who I am and just again, owning it, to me I think that's success.

All right, well Ozil, this is one of my favorite questions.

Yeah.

So you're having a dinner party and you can invite any three people alive in the world right now. Whom would you invite and what one question would you ask each one of them?

Man, that's a good one Mark. Good question. That's one of those rats. Like can I just stop and think who would I. There's so many people that I would probably reach out to. I'm trying to think just three though. Woohoo. Oh man. You know what I really admire from an entrepreneurial standpoint? Actually, no, I'll tell you what, I would be Elon Musk.

It's your party, Ozil. I think Elon Musk would be like, Ozil, come on, really? He'd be like, I'm working 100 hours here to Save the planet.

Right?

Exactly.

Right. No, I'm kidding.

I'm working 100 hours and losing money every day.

You're serving this Ozil. No, I'm kidding.

I don't know. There's just so many.

You know, Elon Musk is great.

So.

Okay, Elon Musk, assuming he'd be a good dinner guest.

He would be a great dinner guest. Oprah Winfrey, I would like to interview. Yeah, yeah. Oprah Winfrey and who else? Who else? Man, that's a tough one.

Oh.

Oh. I was. I was gonna say, if he was still alive, Prince would have been, because that was my idol, my musical idol.

So let's resurrect Prince. You got Elon Musk, Oprah and Prince.

Yeah.

What one question would you ask them?

This is such a great question. It would probably have to be. When was the moment when you decided when you gave yourself permission to do the thing that you love, that would be it. I love that pivotal moment. I think that that is a great question because it, to me, it opens up the floodgates of their story, and it really kind of pinpoints what were they thinking and in that moment where they conquered fear and decided to do their own thing. So, yeah, that would be the question.

I like it. I like it.

Who'd you pick, Mark? I'm curious.

Three people. Three people I would probably invite. So I just hate you about Elon Musk, but probably Elon Musk.

Elon Musk as well, you said.

Okay. Elon Musk. Yeah. Yeah. Is it Elon or Elon? I never know Elon.

Yeah. And why, by the way, why are you fascinated? Because I.

Because he's such a big thinker.

Yeah.

He's so fascinating. And I would just want to know, like, how do you, you know, like, what do you think about when you wake up in the morning? Like, how are you thinking? So much bigger.

Yeah.

Than everyone else. I mean, it just is. The way his mind would work would fascinate me. The way that he executes fascinates me. I just find him. I think I find him fascinating from a business standpoint, from a creative standpoint. I'd love to talk to Jay Z. You know, creativity as well as business and combining the two. And I know he would have some amazing stories as well. And then, you know, a guy like Ray Dalio, who's this billionaire. He's the billionaire hedge fund from Bridgewater. You know, transparent, you know, this radical transparency, this radical honesty, and just kind of delving a little bit deeper and hearing it from him. And arguing with this guy and just watching him, like, you know, argue and see how it works in practice. I don't know. Scott, who would you pick right now?

Jeff Bezos.

All right, okay.

So I'd like to have Jeff there. I would like to have President Trump there.

All right.

At my dinner.

Yeah.

And I think my third choice would probably be. Mark Cuban.

Yeah, that was wild.

You know, Cuban and Trump are going to go at it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You got a little bit of, you know, you got a little bit of tension there.

That's why no sharp knives in the room.

That makes sense. Exactly.

No, no, we're eating seafood, reading, you know, scallops. We're not eating steak. All right, but look, I think. I think from. From Jeff Bezos, I'd want to know, like, you know, essentially, how. How do you go from an online bookstore, you know, that he had the whole thing. Maybe he didn't see the whole picture at the time he started, Right. But he knew it was bigger than big. And when you think about what he has grown Amazon into, the thing is just massive, right? Like, it's just. It's massive. We all use it in some fashion, whether we know it or not. I mean, even down to websites, you know, in terms of being on his infrastructure, the guy is just, you know, all over the place. And, you know, he's built a platform that really has transformed E commerce and transformed the world. I mean, you know, just think, like, think about everything in your house that comes from Amazon. It's amazing.

I would have bought my actual house on Amazon if I could have.

Yeah, right. You know, like, the guy is just, you know, it just gets better and better and better and better, and there's no end in sight. You know, like, it just. They just keep creating. From Mark Cuban, I think I would like to kind of understand, you know, kind of what he sees, what he's looking for, like, in companies, Right. Like, you know, on Shark Tank, for example, because he's very vocal in terms of, like, when he's out, he's out. There's something that he doesn't like. If there's something he doesn't see that he likes, he's out. I mean, like, there's no. There's no gray area. He's either in or he's out. Right. And I think that when you can. When you have that type of a focus, that type of kind of this. I know this, boom, you're off to the races, right?

And then.

And then from President Trump, I think I'd like To understand really, you know, kind of the whole concept of thinking big.

Right.

Like, you know, he's well known for saying, like, you know, if you're going to think, why not think big? And all of his projects are all huge.

Right?

Like, everything in his life is huge. And, you know, he doesn't go through and like, hey, let me try this little deal here. When he's going, he's in, man. Like, he's building, you know, the tallest skyscraper there is. He's, he's making it great. He's not necessarily trying to make it just mediocre or just kind of test the waters. He's either in or he's out. And so I respect that piece of him. And then as a kind of, as another side note or something, if him and Cuban get into it about business, I need to change the topic, then I would really talk to him about kind of his, how he raised his children in terms of. I mean, they truly are his business partners. And when you look at, when you look at how much faith he has in all of his kids, I mean, it's, it's amazing to see how he has groomed all of his children.

Yeah. I mean, you can say whatever you want about Trump, but those, those kids are, you know, they're top notch, man. Like, pretty solid.

Pretty solid kids. Right?

You know, like for growing up, you know, as billionaires.

Yeah, not bad. Not bad.

So that's who I would have. Those are some great guests, guys.

So, Ozil, can you tell us about a dark period in your life that you went through and how you came out of it and what you learned from it?

Yeah, a dark period. You know, one of the things that. It was a challenge. And I was, I was. Went through a period where I was living paycheck to paycheck, struggling artists. I was in a band for many years. I devoted about 10 years in my 20s just trying to. At that time, you know, it was trying to be a rock star and get a record label deal, which. Who needs a record label deal now, right? It's changed. But back then it was, it was a big deal. And I remember doing that and I was, I was pretty much putting things on my card. I was just. I went all in. And I had this dream of making it as a paid musician, you know, traveling band, touring band, and would just rack up this credit card debt and got really heavy, you know, above ground, which, you know, to over 20,000. Just heavy. Just. I was paying equipment, studio room, you name it, and I was paying for everything. I was the band leader. So it was one of those things where. And then I lost my job and couldn't make, you know, got to a point where I couldn't make rent. I couldn't pay for the credit cards statements. And it was just really a rough period. And that was a moment where I really was a very entrepreneurial moment there, guys, because I decided to pick up side hustles and learned I was bartending. And then I really got into bartending private events and it was just more bang for the buck. I was making some crazy money and I started just funneling this crazy cash flow to pay off my debt and got out of debt in a year and a half doing that. So I came out of that. But it was a really dark period. It was scary. It was scary, you know, facing the fact that I didn't have money in my account. And it was, it was, it was very. It was one of those moments where I'm like, I never want to be back in that position again where I can't, you know, make rent, I can't pay these credit cards. And once I got out of debt, it was like, ah, that was a big aha moment because I discovered that could make money on my own terms. You know, I took a skill set that I learned, took it to a different industry which, where it was private events and created a doing mobile bartending. I guess that's another story. I'm not sure if I ever shared that story with you, Mark, but I did that and it was a really. That was really where I cut my teeth, started learning about business marketing and sales where I really kind of started making some. Some serious cash. So that was a really, really dark period. But there was also light at the end of the tunnel and that fact that I really disc my entrepreneurial bug and really came out of it and I'm okay now, so because of it. So it's, you know, there's light at the end of the tunnel. So always when I tell creatives, you know, pick up something that you're good at, some a skill set that, you know there's something in you. Everybody has a skill set. Some people always come up to me, say, well, I don't know what I'm good at. I said, you know what? I believe there's something you can do. And this is the beautiful thing about this online world, as you know, Scott and Mark, that you can take that now and make that into a business. Side hustles is a huge thing. And that's where I'm at Right now, guys, is really helping people. And I believe it's just a great gateway to entrepreneurship is building, creating that, taking that idea, hobby, passion, turn it into a side hustle, and then come out of the darkness if you want to become an entrepreneur through that side hustle, until you learn and you cut your teeth and there's a lot of things that you'll learn out of it. And that's something that I always give credit to. So I'm a big believer in the side hustle, and it got me out of that dark period.

All right. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Now we're at that point, the podcast Ozil, where we're going to put you on the spot and your mentorship has been great. But we're going to ask you one last question. Your tip of the week. A website, a resource, a book, something actionable where the art of passive income listeners can go right now, improve their businesses, improve their lives. What have you got?

Improving your life. Your lives, guys. Definitely check out, if you guys have checked it out yet. But it's. It's a Netflix documentary called Minimalism. It's a documentary about the important things you got to check out, is one of the most amazing documentaries you will ever see. And it really puts perspective on having enough and being okay with having enough and really scaling down and embracing minimalism as a lifestyle. So I'm not sure you guys should have them on the podcast. I think its name is Josh and I think Ryan, and they run a podcast called Minimalist. And I believe they have a blog, theminimalist.com I believe. But I'm just inspired. And these are guys that were completely. They were successful entrepreneurs and they just gave it up to pursue this message and share this message with the world about minimalism. And they just let go of money. They said, you know, f the money, we're going to go ahead and help people shed away this notion of having a lot of money and the need to have a lot of money and to have a lot of stuff and really pursue the things that truly matter, you know, family and the things that you love to do. So highly recommend for all your listeners. Check it out. Minimalism, a documentary about the important things. And it's, I think, only available on Netflix. So highly, highly recommend. It was a game changer and put perspective in my life for sure.

All right, I've got it right here on my phone. My new fancy iPhone X.

What do you think?

Which isn't really minimalistic now. I'm ashamed of it.

That's the only Gadget you have, Mark, if that's the only thing you're just.

It's. It's the only gadget I have. I actually. I live in the iPhone 10.

Do you like it, man, by the way?

No, I love it. I love it. It's the best. It's by far the best phone I've ever owned.

Okay.

It's. It's phenomenal. And the only reason I have it is because Scott Todd had it before me. Oh, my life was just fine with the iPhone 7. Yeah.

Hey, Mark, I'm thinking about getting a Samsung note.

Watch out. Are you serious, Mark?

He's joking.

No, I'm serious. I've been. I've been on the fence with it.

Why won't you get an iPad?

I got an iPad.

Why would you get a Samsung note then?

Yeah, good to replace my iPhone X.

Ooh, you don't like the iPhone X anymore?

I like it. I like it. Next year, though, I might be switching. I might leave apple for samsung because Samsung's had all of this technology that's in the 10 for years, man.

You know, Scott, it's funny you mentioned. I was talking to a friend of mine, and I've been having. I've been an Apple user for a few years now. I've had the Samsung. I have the Galaxy 4 and enjoyed it. Never had an issue with it. And then I switched to iPhone. And I like. And I just. I've been having Apple products ever since. But I also have been thinking about making the transition. I know Mark is probably like, no, what are you guys talking about? But I was thinking about that. I was. I went to best buy the other day and I was like, these Samsung galaxy notes are pretty nice. I don't know.

Yeah, that. That note, man, I went and looked at. I was like, you gotta be kidding me.

Yeah, Mark.

Mark, speechless.

But he put us on mute.

I mean, you know, this is. This is like, you know, obi wan kenobi saying, no, I'm kind of toying with the dark side. I don't know, because, you know, that lightning thing is pretty cool. I can shoot lightning out of my fingertips enough with these elegant lightsabers. So that's to be determined, Mark.

To be continued.

For now.

I'm gonna stick with you on the Apple side. But, like, here's my tip of the week.

Yeah.

Okay, Mark, check this website out. It's mailcaster.com. it's M A I L C A S T R mailcaster.com. and what's cool about this is it's a. It's a plugin for Gmail and it creates a signature, you know, like, hey, how's it going? Signature. Professional looking signature. But there's something really, really cool in there. And that is real time email tracking. So, you know, based on this signature, if they're opening your email, whether they got it or not, historical data so that you can kind of make some better decisions. Like, you know, essentially if you're sending an email and they don't respond to you and you're trying to sell a piece of land and they don't respond to you, and you go back and you look and they opened it, well, then they're kind of telling you something, Right? So maybe now you can tweak what you're saying or the way that you approach something to try to get your kind of response rates close rates up. It's kind of pretty cool. And you know what, you can even get the, like the pro version or whatever it's called. The other upgrade. Yes. Like the Pro version for $1.90 a month. $1.90.

It's not bad when you pay it.

Annually, so like less than 25 bucks a year.

But Mixmax does it for free.

Yeah, well, you know, does it give you web dashboard reporting?

Yes.

Does it give you, does it give you unlimited event tracking? Is there support?

Is there?

It's free.

Yeah, it's free.

You know what you say, man? You know what you always say.

I know it's free.

How you know they're gonna stay in business?

All right, well, they do have.

Check them out.

All right, I'll check it out. Mailcaster. Great, Great tip.

Okay.

All right. My tip of the week is, you know, learn more about Ozil, listen to his podcast, get some digital marketing tips at thinko, zeal, o Zs and zebra e a l.com thinkozil.com I'll have a link to his site. And you know, Ozil de Bastos. Are we good? We're good.

Thank you so much for the tip. I'm honored. And I got Mark's tip of the week, so.

Yeah.

Yeah, dropping that.

Much appreciated, man. And thank you so much for. And you and Scott, it was great meeting you to be on the show and have an opportunity to be able to share the no permission needed message with the rest of your listeners. So thank you so much, man. It's an honor.

Well, thank you. I can't speak for Scott, but I know just talking to you and spending time with you, I do feel a little cooler. Even though, you know, I'M a huge geek. I do feel like some of that cool is going to be rubbing off on me. What about you, Scott?

I'm Mr. Cool, man. I might just have to, you know.

I don't know, take us some break dance classes. Maybe. Maybe.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I always, like, I try to impress my wife sometimes by doing the worm.

There you go.

And she just laughs at me when I'm, like, crawling around on the floor in pain. But I just.

I just popped and locked while he was. There we go.

There we go.

So popped and locked.

Everybody's seen the movie Breaking. Come on, man. Everybody.

Yeah. Come on.

Turbo. Nozzan, what's up?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good stuff.

You know, many a fight has been avoided just through the. The power of calling someone out and dance.

Yeah, Breakdancing came out of, like, actually in the Bronx, where there was gangs there that were just kind of beating each other up, and a DJ started playing some music on a record, and that's where the DJ came from. And then these thugs, these gang members, decided to drop down their knives and started fighting each other through this form called break dancing. So, yeah, I'm glad. Thank goodness for breakdancing. It saved in New York City back in the late 70s and early 80s. At least some parts anyway.

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