ROUND TABLE—Got Land Stress? Ways To Get Over The Overwhelm

Hey, it's Mark Podolski, the land geek from your favorite niche real estate website, www.thelandgeek.com. and for this week's roundtable podcast, I'm excited. It's a little small. It's a little intimate. Tate Litchfield. Tate, how are you? The big papa.

Doing well, thank you. How are you, Mark?

Good. How's that baby?

She's cute. She's cute.

She's cute. It's good, it's good. And of course, we can't forget about Team Eric. Eric Peterson. Eric, how are you?

Good, good. Nice mug.

I'm drinking from my Team Tate mug, by the way, and it tastes delicious. Eric Peterson just goes down so smooth. You guys can tell I had too much caffeine. Oh, look at that. He has Team Erica. I love it. And last but not least, we all love him. We all know him. Six Sigma man himself, Scott Todd from Scott Todd.net, landmodo.com and most importantly, you're not automating your Craigslist and your Facebook postings. PostingDomination.com TheLandgeek Today's podcast is actually sponsored by. By posting Domination.com TheLandgeek let's just get into it, guys. Let's talk about Eric Peterson's property and what we think we should do with it. Eric, let's talk about that deal.

Okay, so my question is, would you buy it? I have a property. It's five acre property. I have an offer for $500 on it, and I'm about to close. I've known all along that there's a structure on the property. The seller told me from the beginning that it was a old structure, probably falling apart. But, you know, it's there and it comes with the property. And as I'm about to close, I just am having second thoughts about it. I mean, I think I'll probably go ahead and close. It's a good price, but just wanted to hear you guys thoughts on it. There's a driveway basically cut into the back of the property. And that's where this structure that appears to be falling apart sits.

Tate Litchfield, we got a call. 1-800-Junk on this deal. What do you think? Would you close on this deal?

Well, Eric sent me a picture of it, and I'm looking at it, and based on this image, you know, for $500, you can't go that wrong. Right. And what are you gonna sell it for?

Yeah, I mean, I think it's probably 3,500, 4,000. Pretty easy on cash or terms on cash.

What about terms? I don't know why you don't sell on terms, Eric.

I do.

No, I know you do. Why would you do this deal in terms. Why would you do every deal in terms of.

I do. I just kind of. My go to price is the cash price, you know, when I'm talking about the value of the property, but the terms price is there too.

Yeah.

Team Tate.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like it. I mean, I like the fact that it looks like there's some sort of road to the dilapidated building. Before I bought the property, I definitely call the current owner and just be like, hey, have you run into any issues with it? I'd also probably do some homework and call and see what it would cost, worst case scenario to clean the property up, because let's say you change it, changes hands, you know, ownership, and then the county all of a sudden realizes, well, the deadbeat previous owner wasn't going to do anything about the trash, but maybe this new guy will. So I definitely want to know ahead of time what that fee could be in theory, so. Right.

And I didn't mention, but I don't believe that the building, whatever is there is permitted. I mean, I don't see anything when I look at the assessor's information that there's any improvements on the property. So my guess is it's probably unpermitted.

Yeah, I mean, 500 bucks with the time, with the kind of return, cash return, you're talking, you know, I'm playing that hand. That sounds like a good. The odds are in your favor on that one.

May the odds ever be in your favor. Eric Peterson on this deal. Scott Todd, would you shy away or are you sending Eric a check right now to partner? Here's the deal.

I don't think that. Me personally, I don't think I can ever go wrong buying a property for like 100 to 5, $500, right? Like, how can you lose? Like, I don't see any way of.

Losing even an environmental issue, Scott, because you know that that could be an issue.

Okay, okay. Maybe an environmental. But in this case, I don't see an environmental issue.

Right.

And, but man, like 500 bucks. And then what I would do is, I like, Mark, we have. We know somebody that does, like home flipping, right. Like he does home flipping. And he doesn't. He doesn't do anything to the properties. He just like buys them, turns around, sells them with owner financing.

Right.

I would do this like, hey, small cabin needs repair as is. Right. Like here. Like, I would put the Positive spin on it and see if I can get someone to like unpermitted, you know, dream.

Yeah, that's true. Because people love buying something that's already started for them. Right. Like they love the idea that hey, it might be junky and run down and there's a ghost living there, but it started for you. People love that. So I like Scott's approach.

Yeah, I mean Tate and I had a deal where the guy actually built like a shed and he was going out there, he spent a lot of time on it and then he got into some financial trouble. We were going to take it back and we were all excited about it and then. But he was. Go ahead.

We were kind. We were kind.

We were very kind.

We tried to work with him. He put a lot of money into that property. Probably what, 20 grand and maybe.

Yeah.

And he ran into some hardships and we renegotiated his monthly. We gave him a couple months.

Well, we resold it and it was so easy. We sold that thing today because it had a shed on it.

Yeah. And we sold it for like ten grand. Twice as much.

Yeah, it was a lot more. But we didn't close a deal with our new buyer because he, you know, he found the money. I think that was the right thing to do. I mean, absolutely. He was absolutely the right thing to do.

He was a good client, you know, and stuff happens, Right. Life's hard.

Yeah. We're not, we're not the bank. Go ahead, Scott. What are you gonna say, Mark?

I was gonna say I saw a property the other day. It was a. It was a 40 acre property in northern Nevada, which, you know, that's probably like, that's probably like $20,000, $25,000 somewhere in that range. Our price on terms. Okay. And the guy was selling it through a realtor with a shipping container on it for $35,000.

So.

Case in point. Right?

Just put it just.

Maybe we should all go buy some shipping containers. Just drop it somewhere on the land and just charge $10,000 for this thing. You could probably buy for like 500 bucks.

You can pick them up for two grand. I know where.

Oh, really?

That's too much.

Is that right off the interstate?

Tate, the property locations that I would stick them on is like maybe a mile from the interstate.

No, the guy you're gonna buy em from is he off the interstate in Vegas. I see that guy.

Yeah, but they're two grand delivered. Delivered anywhere. Anywhere within like, I think he's got like a hundred mile radius.

Oh, I need it much further than that.

Well, not all of us live in Florida.

Well, you know what we could do is we could pre sell it with a shipping container, get our money on the down, and then pay off the shipping container, and that way we're mitigating our risk.

Oh, that's a genius idea.

All right, I gotta go do that. Gotta go take stuff right now, guys. Good chat.

Right? Right. So, Eric, I have to agree with what Tate and Scott said. And, you know, there's part of me that is so just furious with you because of that Colorado deal that you took for me that I almost want to give you bad advice. Oh, he just did. Hashtag Team Eric. I want to give you bad advice and say, no, no, no, don't do that deal. Pass it off to me. Let me take the risk on it. But I would say, you know, definitely close that deal for all the reasons that Tate and Scott said, and come back and let us know how quickly you were able to. To sell that property. It's not from my seller, is it?

No, it's not.

Okay, that's better. Okay.

But he's my seller.

Our seller. Our seller. So let's just. Let's just move on before it gets too nasty. All right. There is a treasure trove of hidden treasures at the county recorder. And a lot of times we're finding that our clients are not able to see these hidden treasures. So, Scott, can you give us an example of some of the hidden treasures that we can find at the county recorder, and how do we approach it?

Yeah, I mean, like, first off, any single, like, document that you ever want, like, you want to talk about, like, a whole, like, law library of documents, that's where they are. They reside at the recorder's office. Right. So, you know, like, whenever I need a form, like, I'm not sure how to do something, you know, or someone says, hey, you need this type of affidavit. First thing I'm doing is I'm heading over to the recorder's office in that state. It doesn't really matter the county, because the counties don't make the laws. The state makes the laws. So it really. I just go to the recorder's office in that state, just look up one and just start typing in what you're looking for, like, hey, affidavit. And then pull up that affidavit, for example, and just keep searching, search and searching, searching until you find what you need. Sometimes it's an affidavit of death of a trustee or death of a joint owner. Or maybe it's a deed. Maybe you need a deed. And everybody wants to go to deeds.com. great. But you can also get it free just from the county. Yeah, you got to retype it or. But, I don't know, have somebody else retype.

Yeah, I mean, go to our, you know, vas. The landgeek.com. they'll do it.

Yeah. But, you know, I think that. I think that what sometimes we miss is that there's so much information there at that treasurer's office. You know, one of the things that I love to do is I love to spend time on their website. Maybe it's being nosy, I don't know. But start learning the tools that you have there at your discretion, because it's all public information. So, like, Mark, have you done that?

Well, I mean, I don't talk about this enough, but the recorder and the assessor and the treasurer and planning and zoning taught me the land business. Now, I didn't know they were teaching me the land business, but they actually taught me the land business. So whenever I would close on a deal, I would just start calling, not calling. I would actually physically be at the county, and I'd be pulling maps, and I would be asking questions, and I'd be pulling deeds because I was freaking out. I knew nothing about anything. I didn't know anything about deeds. I didn't know about assessed value. I didn't know about market value. I didn't know about plat maps. I didn't know about GIS maps. I didn't know about planning and zoning. I didn't know any of it. So I had to get a crash course because I was buying these properties at tax deed auction. Now I own the property, and I have to go in, and I'd start talking, and they taught me the business. So it is such a valuable resource. And today, even if we go to a new county, we're on the phone, we're calling them, we're asking them questions. And sometimes they're helpful and sometimes they're not. Tate, what do you think of the county departments and recorder for the. That stuff?

I mean, it's one of the. It's the first stop for any, you know, transaction that I have to do. In fact, this morning, I am looking into a new county and a new state, and I don't know much about it. The numbers look good, but I was a little bit hesitant. And so I wanted to know how the deeds differed in this state versus the other states that I worked in. And so what did I Do. I went and pulled the most recent deed recorded, and sure enough, I'm familiar with that. You know, that layout. I'm comfortable with it. I feel like I can proceed there. So I use it every day. Honestly, when I didn't know anything, I didn't know about a warranty deed versus a quitclaim deed. I was going to the county, I pulled up one of each, and I was reading through it and comparing it and recognizing the differences there. So, yeah, for me, it's the encyclopedia when it comes to legal documents.

Absolutely. You know what I think would be really fun to do is after you flip that property tape. Yeah. Is send Eric the sale and do like, hashtag Team Mark Team.

I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just kind of like. Like rub it in a little bit.

Maybe I should.

Here's the deal that we're doing, but, you know, and we'll, like, have to cross out, like, where it's at so he'll have no idea.

I like it. I like it a lot. It could be like a treasure hunt for him.

It could be. And we could, like, like, leave, like, little, like, Easter eggs around. Like, okay, it's in a warm climate.

Right. Why don't you just give them the GPS coordinates?

Come on, Scott. I'm not gonna give it away.

Eric's a. You can always count on Scott to come to Eric's defense on any kind of ganging up on this podcast.

Absolutely.

It's wonderful to watch, actually. It's. It. You know, it's. It's. It brings out the best of humanity when, like, a bully, like, when you, like. Because, like, let's face it, we're bullying Eric and Scott is standing up to our bullying. And I think it's. I think it's commendable, and I really think that we need to see more of this in life.

Well, I wasn't going to tell you, but, you know, I think I just bought the neighboring property yesterday.

So.

Mark.

Mark. Mark is like. I don't even see Mark right now. Like, I don't even hear you notice that. No one's even talking here. Mark is not even talking.

I'm like, I'm.

We gotta be careful. He'll end the podcast early on us.

I know, I know. Eric Peterson, let's get back to the. The seriousness of the podcast. How do you use the county departments and especially when you first started.

Yeah, I mean, I think you guys pretty much covered it. The only thing I was going to add is, like, you know, if you can become friendly with those people that answer the phone at the recorder's office, at the assessor's office. Get to know their names, you know, ask them about their day. Just be nice to them. And most of the time, they could be so helpful to you. And, you know, a lot of counties will, once again, if you've talked to them and you're nice to them, you know, they'll review your documents and tell you, you know, you're missing something or this looks fine or what have you. So you just got to spend the time and, you know, use them. They're a great resource.

Yeah. You'd be absolutely amazed what a, you know, a gift basket of chocolates will do for a county department. Now, you can't send a gift to any one person at the county. You can send it to a department, and it typically needs to be, like, you know, $50 or less, and it needs to be during some kind of holiday. Right. Otherwise, it does not look good in the county. Departments will have to reject it because it's a gift. Right. They can't really accept gifts. But I, you know, did this on a regular basis to my biggest counties, right. On the majority of my property. And I would call them up and they're like, hey, Mark. I mean, they were, you know, the attitude towards helping me was very different than, say, when, like, an Eric Peterson might call up and ask a question who did not send any kind of gift basket, Right? So there you go. That's a little. There you go. Little. Little roundtable tip. Scott's searching.

I just, you know, like, I didn't see that one coming. You know, I should have, like, been ready with the bat to, like, block it, but I didn't see it.

You know, it's okay. It's okay. I'm good that way. Years of practice. I had an older sister, you know, I had to constantly be on my toes. So there you go. Let's go into our final topic. And I think this topic is one that we talk about, and we talk about it a lot, and we talk around it, but it's so important and it's so pervasive in the lanky community that it deserves its own sort of segment on the Roundtable podcast. And that's about just feeling overwhelmed, because we give out so much information and we give so many tips of the day and so many tips of the week and so much geeky sort of stuff out there that it's so easy to become overwhelmed. So, Tate Litchfield, what can someone do to sort of ignore the shiny object syndrome and get back to the basics, this business, how would you help them?

I mean, I think it goes back to that old phrase, kiss, right? Keep it simple. Stupid, right, or stupid simple. However you want to do it, right? I think you just got to focus on what's most important in this business. And sometimes going out there and learning all sorts of automated features right away is not the right thing to do with your time. Ultimately, you got to focus on your mailing, you got to focus on your ads. If you do those two things, eventually you will have time and you will grow to the point where you need more help. And that's when you can start implementing those tools and those other geeky tips that we share.

I mean, Tate, how do you actually execute on that? I mean, do you use like a, like an app like Focus that will kind of shut everything off and shut everything down, and until you get your mailing and your marketing done, you don't do anything else?

I think practice makes permanent in a lot of these things. Every single day when I sit down, I do the exact same things to start my day. I send out my offers, I respond to my buyers, and then I do my mailing, and then I focus on my marketing. Whatever time I have left over, that's when I spend time working on county research or other things. I've developed kind of a formula for success that applies to me personally. It's four simple things I must do every single day. As soon as those things are done, I can have time for whatever else I want to do. So, yeah, focus. Staying off the iPhone, staying off Facebook, I mean, just getting rid of distractions. Turn off the music and just focus.

I love it. Eric Peterson, what about you? How do you stay focused to get the things done in your business that really move the needle?

Yeah, I mean, pretty much the same thing I do for the most part. The most important things in the morning, you know, taking care of offers, answering buyer emails, you know, getting through a lot of those kind of key pieces of the business, ads, all that stuff, first thing. And then I, you know, have the rest of the day, once those are done, to work on other things. Early on I, I used, what's it called that, the Pomodoro principle thing. Like there's an app, I forget what it's called, but so I would, you know, utilize those 20, 25 minute blocks and focus on a task and, you know, work within that. And it would beep when it was done and tell me to move on to the next thing. So that was helpful early on.

And Eric, having a Full time job as, you know, and being able to sort of shut down that distraction in of itself, I mean kind of walk us through like what time you wake up, your morning routine, you've got kids and then the time you can actually devote, focus, time, devote to the business, how long does it actually take and then you know, do you go back to it maybe at night?

Yeah, I mean right now I kind of, I mean I pretty much feel like I've got two jobs. So yeah, I'm up early in the morning, 5am Most days, do kind of my morning routine, I take the kids to school in the morning. So by the time I'm back in my office, it's about 8, 8:30 hopefully. Prior to that I've answered all my buyer emails. I've either started the ads going out for the day or they're almost done kind of thing. And then yeah, I mean I work my regular job and I do have a lot of freedom in that job. I do work from home so there's a lot of flexibility. I'm able to answer the phone during the day, I'm able to answer emails, do different things for the land business throughout the day and then just kind of replace that time later on for my regular job as needed. And then you know, around dinner time, five o' clock or so I quit for a while while the kids are home and we have dinner together as a family and then we usually do something for a while and then you know, the kids have sports games and different things. So then you know, by the time the kids go to bed, a lot of times I'm back up in my office working again. So hopefully, you know, it won't be that way for too much longer because my wife doesn't see a lot of me right now other than coming down in the kitchen for a glass of water or something. But yeah, I mean that's, it's really important to me to have success in this business and you know, that's kind of the pieces I put together in order to do that and you know, it's working and I see the light at the end of the tunnel. So.

Yeah, I mean, I think Eric brings up an interesting point, Scott, that you probably don't also don't talk about enough, is that you've got to make sacrifices if you want to achieve your goals in life. There's no such thing as balance. Right. You're not gonna be able to spend an equal amount of time on your business, in your business, with your family. Right. It's just, it's just a reality of life. And if you're feeling, while you're working, you should be, you know, with your kids or your wife or out to the movies or, you know, with friends or whatever it is. You're not going to be as passionate about that work because your mind somewhere else, your heart is somewhere else. And if you can go into it knowing this isn't forever, right, I'm making the sacrifice for my family. I'm being intentional about it. This is going to buy me time for the rest of my life to do those things I really want to do. I'm going to sacrifice now. Then it's much more palatable, I think, to get up at 5 in the morning and do those things. What do you think, Scott? I mean, you, you lived it. Yeah.

I mean, and that was kind of the deal. It's like I. There is a sacrifice that you, you have to like, forego. You cannot, you cannot continue to, to do everything. It's just not possible. So, you know, one of, one of the things that people did, you know, they don't see is that like when, when I was trying to, to. To get out of the, of the corporate job, you know, I would take my son to his lacrosse practice and I would sit in the car and like, scrub a list or I'd sit in the car and write some ads, right? Like, yeah, okay. Like, I wasn't there for my son, but in a way, I'd glance up and I'd see him out there practicing. And guess what? It was kind of cold at that time too, right? Like, it was like, you know, little winter. So I didn't mind sitting in the car, being a little warm. I could still glance up and see, guess what? He didn't care, Right? Why? Because he's playing the game. He's not falling, focusing on me. I was there. I drove them. I was supportive. Didn't mean I was. Was there, you know, like, had to be right there on the field, what, talking to the other parents. So what? I was antisocial. Guess what? I don't know any of those people today because I've moved on. So you have to look at that and think, like, you know, what is important to me right now and it's not being selfish. For me, it was really about. Is about protection. Protection to my family. You know, I felt like I had to do this for my family. And then at the end, you know, I think that the other piece too is realizing that there's nothing saying that you have to move at this pace. So if the pace that you've put yourself under is too stressful, well, then back off of it. Get to the mailing, into the marketing. And I think that a lot of people, you know, Marc, you know, I think that a lot of people, they. They also struggle with little things. Like, you know, we talk about, like, hey, PayPal doesn't like our business.

Right?

And so then. Then they freak out that, oh, my God, I can't accept PayPal. Why not? Why can't you accept PayPal? Because I've accepted PayPal. I've paid for land through PayPal. It works until PayPal says it doesn't work anymore. So it's not necessarily like this thing that says that. What we're saying is you. You maybe you shouldn't plan to scale your business with PayPal, but if PayPal is all you have today, great. No problem. Use the tools that you have today at your convenience without having to go worry about, like, oh, man, I got to go set up Stripe or I got to go set up all this other stuff. You're putting too much stress on yourself.

Okay.

Just keep it simple.

Yeah. And, Scott, getting back to the original question, I mean, how did. How do you avoid overwhelm?

I think that you just accept the fact that it is what it is.

Right.

Like, I'm just going to. I'm just going to focus only on the things that I can control today. If I can't control it or it's outside my scope or if it's too much, I'm just going to take a break from it. So you can control the amount of stress that you're under in this business. That's what's great about it, is that you get to control the amount of stress that you want to take here.

Yeah, absolutely. And I always start my day with the thing I like to do least. Absolutely. And that, you know, I feel like, okay, I'm doing it, you know, and hopefully I'm in the Kaizen mindset and I'm, you know, improving every single day.

Wait a minute. Is that why our calls are always in the morning?

Oh, no, Tate, I've gotten my stuff done. I looked. I look forward to those calls. It's. It's when I get a box. Eric Peterson.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes more sense. It's just early.

He just showed his cards. Because I normally talk to Mark later in the afternoon.

You do? Oh, I thought, oh, geez.

Yeah, Mark, you know. Yeah. I mean, there are some, like, accounting things I just dread, and I get those things. Done, like, you know, first thing, and then probably have to vox Eric about something, and then. But then the rest of the day is, like, totally free and open, and I can totally enjoy it and do exactly what I want to do because the two, you know, dreadful things of boxing, Eric and accounting are over. So Scott. Scott's like, okay.

I'm not letting you, like, go.

All right, all right. Yeah. I'm digging my own hole in a way.

Yeah, you are.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. All right.

When everybody shows up to boot camp, everybody shows to boot camp with, like, a Team Eric, team Tate, and team Scott shirt. And there's no team Mark shirts. You'll really regret it.

No, I'll know. Okay. The roundtable hazing of Eric Peterson has backfired completely. Absolutely. And the thing is, like. Like, Scott, like, it's easier, like, with Zane or David, like, because they kind of fire back, like, he's so nice.

Yeah, he is.

It's. It's, like, ridiculous. Yeah.

You know, you. You mentioned, like, being the bully. Right? You know.

Right. It's a total bully move.

I want to tell you that. You know, the. The. The kid that used to bully me in. In elementary school, even today, he still takes my money when I go to Subway.

Oh, doesn't that feel good? That felt great. That felt. Yeah, that felt good. All right, well, Eric, I'm still waiting on my Team Eric mug, but right now, my Team Tate coffee tastes delicious. So good. All right, enough hazing of Eric Peterson, because we get to go and ask Eric first tip of the week. A website, a resource, a book, something actionable where the art of passive income listeners can go right now. Improve their businesses, improve their lives. Eric Peterson, you know, it's out of love. It's all good fun. And we're so excited to hang out with you in Orlando in a couple weeks. What's your tip of the week?

All right, so my tip of the week is for Mac users only, so if you use a PC, I'm sorry, but Automator on the Mac.

Automator. Ooh, Scott's, like, shaking his head. What's Automator?

You can. You can just set up different tasks for it to automate. For example, yesterday I had a huge folder of images and I needed to add. I wanted to set them apart from some other ones, so I wanted to add a character to the end of them. And rather than renaming all those files, you know, one by one, taking forever, you can just set up a simple automation in Automator to add, you know, a letter. What's Your favorite letter, Scott. It's n or. No, it's number nine.

Right.

To add a number nine to the end of all those file names and, you know, it'll just go through and process them all in like a second and you can move on. But I mean, that's just that beginning of it, right? I mean, you can do a lot more with it. But that's just an example I use on a regular basis is just running through a folder of images like that.

Yeah. I mean, Scott, why don't we use Automator instead of Hazel?

I think that. I think that Hazel, like, for me, I think that Hazel is better. Like, Automator is good. I mean, it has a lot of things. Automator can be, like, really, really deep.

Okay.

You can like literally program Automator Mark with like, in depth. Like, you know, the. In the terminal. You can program it. Right, Right. So for me, Hazel.

Yeah, I can get. It can get pretty geeky for sure.

That's cool. All right. Awesome. Awesome. Tate Litchfield, what's your tip of the week?

So I've got a quote. Fill in Mike Zano's shoes today. And I really like this one. It's from Grant Cardone, and it says, approach every situation with an in it to win it, whatever it takes Mindset sound too aggressive? Sorry. But that is the outlook required to win nowadays. So I just really like it. I mean, it's pretty self explanatory. Anything you want to do when it comes to this business, you've got to be in it to win it from the get go. And if you have that mindset that you will succeed, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. So you can apply it any way you want it. And it worked for Grant Cardone, so it'll work for you.

I love it. I love it. Kind of a cop out tip, but not bad.

Yeah, definitely a cop out tip. But I thought we declared a truce today.

No, we did not.

I thought we were going to do no tips because we didn't want people to get distracted.

Declared a truce.

Tay paid for a truce before the call and we said no.

Sorry, I've been out there closing deals, haven't been able to scour the Internet for tips.

Wow.

Wow. Dropping the mic.

So me and Grant are just going to take off. We'll talk to you guys next week maybe.

All right.

All right. Todd, what's your tip of the week?

Well, Mark, my. My VA just brought me a tip of the week. Oh, Tate, see what I did there. All right. It is for the Mac. Okay. And Mark, how much do you love your like dock on your Mac? You know that little bar thing on the side? Like I have mine on the left side.

Yeah. Okay. So I actually moved my dock. It was always on the bottom for years and years and years. And then Scott's like, wait, I get more real estate on the left. And I changed it. I love it on the left.

Yeah. Well, check out this, this app. It's called ubar. It's by Bower software, Bowersoftware.com Products is.

On the Mac app store or just.

I don't know, I don't know, maybe bar.

I'll check the app store.

I just sent you the link to it and I don't know. But essentially this is a all new dock. Like it will replace your doc.

Okay.

You can have like, I don't know, I guess it may be as I'm looking at it looks like a Windows dock or something. But man, it is, it is cool. And if you're using multiple, multiple screens, guess what? It goes across the entire screen. Like all, like all of them. So instead of having like go to one, you can go to the other. You can customize it. It's multi monitor support. Man, this thing, it flashes like if you have email, all the distraction crap that you want, it's got your app activity, what's eating your CPU is in ra. You will never get any work done because this bar will give you too much information.

So you're saying don't get the bar.

I'm saying look at the U bar. U bar.

I'm looking at you bar. But now you're saying like, it's going to give me so much information. It's going to be distracting. Well, did you get the U bar or not?

I.

Or are you just trying to distract us with the U bar?

I'm on the free trial right now. I have not paid the $30. I'm on the free trial and I like it.

You do like it. You know, I'm definitely on the side of keeping up with the Todd's.

Just, just try it. Just try the free app free trial. See what happens.

All right. And by the way, since Scott started flying and taking flying lessons, I thought I would, you know, because I don't. I'm scared. But I started seeing these paramotor gliders. Oh my gosh, that looks so cool. So I talked to my wife. I'm like, I want to take paramotor gliding lessons. She said, absolutely not. Wait till the kids are out of school, but I still might do it. Tate Litchfield, are you in?

Oh, yeah, I'm in.

Because think about. We could. We could have the. We could have the webcam and fly around our land, and. It's awesome.

I think it's gonna be great. It's gonna be fun.

Eric, would you fly around and glide around your property? Or I should say our property in Colorado?

Sure.

Sounds like fun. I don't think my wife would let me either, though.

I know that's a tough conversation. I showed it to somebody, and they're like, that looks like a good way to die.

Mark. My flight instructor says to me the other day after I had, like, some bad landings, because I'm learning how to land right now, right? I've got bad landing after bad landing after bad landing, and we're, like, taxiing back to the ramp. And he looks at me straightest face of all and says, you're really, really close to being able to solo. And I'm like, look, dude, I gotta learn how to land first. He's like, yeah, you need more practice. And I'm like, no, duh. Like, you're talking about soloing. I'm like, every. Every time I'm landing, I'm like, am I gonna get this one? And he's like, don't worry. Don't worry. You'll get it.

You'll get it.

There's, like, this magic thing that happens between lesson 20 and less than 200. He's like, it will just connect with you. And I'm like, okay, great. And so I get to go out tomorrow, and I'm knowing that tomorrow's the day, right? Like, I'm just gonna just. I'm not gonna accept this thing. But, you know, if. If it doesn't work out, like, for you, you could always go to the power parachute. That's good. Yeah.

I mean, I think there's a. I think there's a backup parachute, too, if the glider breaks or something. I don't know. It looks really cool. YouTube Paramotor gliding. So you guys all know what I'm talking about. It's just cool.

I just sent you guys a link, too. You can see it. It's pretty cool. I like it.

Yeah. Okay, so my tip of the week is check out. Don't hit publish dot com. Don't hit publish. Is your blog post good enough to publish? Well, this is going to analyze it for you, and I think it's free. Those guys, like, Brian Harris from Video Fruit is one of the creators. So Kind of cool. Check it out. Don't hit publish.com. i think a good. Also add on to that not to overwhelm you is Grammarly. Chrome plugin Grammarly. So don't hit publish.com in Grammarly. I will give Eric Peterson the first comment if you want to just say something. Eric.

Well, so I looked at it this morning. Right?

Right.

And I tested it out. I put in a blog title, and then it asks me to rate my blog article. So I had to, like, choose the number of stars for each category. And my expectation was it's gonna look at my content and tell me something about it. Like, I don't know, you know, you need more keywords or, you know, there's bad grammar or whatever it might be.

Right.

And it does none of that. So I was disappointed in it, that's all.

Okay, good to know. Tate, any pot shots?

Never seen it, never used it. I don't know. If it doesn't do what Eric just said, then I don't see why it's important. But, I mean, then again, it did come from you, so it's good. Maybe.

I don't know exactly because I am drinking tons of caffeine out of my team tape mug today.

Yeah, I'm sure it's a great tip, everybody, to use it. It'll be fantastic.

All right.

It's kind of like a checklist, you know, like, make sure these things are going on before you post your blog. I mean, that's how I looked at it.

All right, Scott, Todd, any inflammatory remarks? Anything discouraging?

I think that you got duped.

Because.

You know, like, that website looks like an email clickbait to me, like, just to get your email address and first. And then second. I think I already gave Grammarly as a tip of the week. But it's okay, Mark. It's okay.

Okay. Again, today's podcast is sponsored by postingdomination.com forward/the land geek. And also, I just want to remind everybody, if you're not posting on landmoto.com, a phenomenal resource as well, I think Land Moto is very slowly and methodically going to eat, like Pac man, all the Land sites. So there you go. I'm. I'm just gonna curl up into a fetal position after this podcast and soothe myself after that tip. But enough about me, because it's all about you. And hopefully everyone's getting value from the Roundtable podcast. And also hopefully, you know, we're putting a smile on your face and we're lightening it up a Little bit as well. So check out postingdomination.com landgeek. Also landmodo.com. if you haven't been on Geek pay yet, check out GeekPay IE Eric Peterson made a great video testimonial about it, and we're going to put that on the website as well. And, you know, go to the lank.com as well. Training and learn about the next flight school coming up in October, as well as the September class will have been full after you listen to this podcast. Guys, are we good?

We're good, Mark.

We're good.

Yep.

All right. One, two, three. Let freedom ring. All right, that wasn't so bad. So, Eric, I think it's interesting, like, both our wives are like, no, don't do it. But Scott's wife is like, yeah, go fly. So I'm thinking that, you know, there's.

Something going on there.

Yeah. But, like, Tate's wife is very adventurous.

She's.

She'd be like, oh, Tate, go fly.

She told me I could go ahead.

What did she say, Tate?

I was gonna say, hey, Scott's taking flight lessons. She's like, oh, that'd be cool. He needs to fly to Vegas, and you guys can go fly the airplane together. I was like, I can't believe this is happening to me right now. Yeah, absolutely. When he gets his license, I'm totally going with him. I don't know where we're going, but we're going.

I did tell my wife, like, what the instructor said, like, hey, you know, like, you'll be ready to solo soon. And she looked at me and she's like, I'm not ready for this yet. And I'm like, don't.

Yeah. I mean, it's. It's really cool, though. Like, what. What is the feeling when you're up there? I mean, is it. Is it like. I mean, what do you get, like, a rush of endorphins or. I mean, what does it feel like?

So, you know, there's there, like, they always say, like, there's two. There's two, like, exciting moments. One when you're taking off, and then the other when you're landing. And I've got the. I'm not going to say my takeoffs are, like, perfect, but I'm taking off. When something's not right, I know how to correct it. You know, I'm good there. Obviously, you can always learn. It's like any other skill you can always get better at. So I'm not. Not proclaiming to be a takeoff expert, but I get the logic behind it. And then, you know, you fly around, and that's a great feeling, man. Like, just. Just controlling the plane and looking around and. And, you know, going places where I am in my train now, we're actually going to, like, some other airports, which, you know, close by, but it's still kind of cool to go there. And then you come to the landing, and you got to set the landing up. You got to set the plane up for landing correctly, and you got to be in the pattern correctly. And so then. Then what it does, Mark, is it literally, like, takes all this excitement. It's excitement.

It's.

It's like. Like, this is the main event, right? And you're bringing this plane down, and, like, you've got to. You want to bring it down so gently, and you think, like, this Runway is so big, and from the air, it doesn't look that big. And it just gets. You know, it seems like it's big, and it seems like it's wide, but then you're trying to bring this thing in right on the center line, and it's like, man, it wants to drift sometimes, and the wind's blowing it, so you've got to figure out, like, I can adjust the wings, and all of a sudden, all of these emotions, endorphins, whatever, excitement, it all comes out, and then your heart's, like, pounding, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And then you land, and you're like, I want to go again. Let's go again. You know, and so it's almost like going on a roller coaster, I would say, you know, like, there's all these fun things.

That sounds great. That sounds great. All right, well, this was a good podcast. Thanks, guys.

Thank you, Mark.