Trading Dirt For Paychecks—It Doesn’t Get More Simple Than Land

Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Land Geek Podcast, the Art of Passive Income. This is the roundtable edition, and we have a very fun topic for you guys today. Mark is off today, so it's just the six of us. We got Mimi Schmidt, we got Eric Peterson. Scott Bossman is on the phone. Bear Land, Aaron, and of course, Tate Litchfield, and me, Scott, Todd. So we're going to jump right into today's topic. Today's topic is something that I think what might be pretty unique for us land investors, maybe other real estate investors, too, or heck, maybe people outside of even what we do. But I was dealing with a problem yesterday. Yesterday, I had a very leisure day. It's a Monday. Yesterday was a Monday. Very leisure day. I'll tell you about my day later on in the podcast after we've gone around everybody else. But it was very leisure. I felt guilty. I had, like, survivor's guilt. And I literally got on the phone, I started boxing Mark, like, Mark, do I. Am I missing something here? I feel guilty. This can't be. I feel guilty. Shouldn't I be out there slaving away?

And.

And then he reassured me with what his day looked like. And so we thought we would just randomly, which was really good, by the way, and we thought we would just randomly pull the group and see what did your yesterday look like?

So.

And wait, so three questions. What did your yesterday look like? Have you experienced survivor's guilt? And if so, what do you do just to move on? Like, don't you feel like you should be working harder? Mimi, you're up first. Go ahead.

I always feel like, yes, there's more that I can do. So Mondays, my husband and I, since he works late on Sundays, flying, we could have a breakfast date. So we go to this cool coffee bar, and we both sit in the sunshine and get fancy lattes and work on. He works on his stuff. I work on my business. I love it. And then I come home and I start knocking out business stuff. But when I was working, I'd take a break and I'd go get coffee or something, and someone would hit me up for a raise or tell me they're not getting along with someone or. You know what I mean? I'd have to deal with all these other things. Whereas now, if I take a break, I go putz around with my flowers and pick the dead ones off. I water them and look at how pretty they are. I love it. And it's in my house, like, out on my porch with my feet kicked up, working on my land. Business. So, yes. I always feel like even if I have a leisurely day, I can sit there and be working on my laptop. So I still deal with it, but it's much more enjoyable than what it used to be.

I mean, that is a valid point, you know, like, you could. Like, if you ever got away in your corporate gig, like, if you ever got away, man, all of a sudden, like, there was. There was. You were gonna pay the price, right? Like, you'd come back, a boatload of emails or whatever. And now it's just like. Like, Mimi, like, let me just go pick the flowers. Let me go weed the garden out. Like, oh, let me go think. Let me just think for the day. It's amazing. That's a.

That's a cool.

That's a cool Monday tradition, though, that you guys have, too. Like, coffee, you know, breakfast together. That's really, really cool.

We couldn't fit it in before, right? And now it's. It's really nice. We still get to work, but it's in a really nice location, and we could talk, catch up.

Awesome. All right, Eric, what does Monday look like? At least yesterday's Monday and survivor's guilt. And do you ever feel like I should be working harder than this?

Okay, so yesterday was pretty typical day. I took my youngest to camp. He's going to art camp this week, so I spent the morning driving him over there. Had a couple errands to run after that, got back home a little bit later before lunch and spent a couple hours just catching up on some things, but then took a slow lunch, made myself a nice little lettuce wrap thing, and. Took a longer lunch. I sat on the porch, enjoyed the weather, and then came back to work for a little while in the afternoon. But all in all, it was a pretty slow day for me. I am in the middle of hiring some additional VAs right now. So I did focus on that most of yesterday in the times that I did work in terms of survivor's guilt, you know, I think for me, it most comes out when I see other peers around me that are, like, working a 9 to 5 or they're like, hey, I can't make it to that game, or could you come get my kids and bring, you know, them to the game or whatever, because they're working. And that's when it really hits me. I mean, I don't really think about it otherwise. You know, I'm home, and I'm just kind of doing my thing. But when I'm interacting with others that don't have the freedom that I have, that I start to realize, like, man, this is pretty special. And, yeah, it can definitely make you feel like, well, maybe I shouldn't be able to do that. You know, maybe I need to be locked up in the office working away.

So, yeah, yeah, it's really cool. Like, you know, like when you can help out other parents or they're like, man, wow, maybe Eric can take our kids to wherever, to the game or whatever because we can't make it. But Eric does something like shady. He doesn't even work or something. I don't know. Yeah, they might learn that. Bearland Aaron Survivors Guild. And what did yesterday look like?

Well, first thing I did yesterday was I went on a motorcycle ride and looked for a Cheesecake Factory.

Like an Amish horse and buggy ride?

Yeah, no.

He had to go a long ways to find a Cheesecake Factory, so.

He never found it, I don't think.

Yeah, I didn't find one. We don't have one.

So.

No, honestly, I did ride, but I helped my son, you know, kind of start his, you know, working on starting his business. So I helped, you know, helped him do some things. I've been working on some WordPress stuff lately. So, you know, I came back and did that. But as far as survivor's guilt, I don't know. See, I still push a lot of the business myself, so I don't have the, you know, there. There's not this. It's all completely automated or handed off yet so that I have these big blocks of time where there's nothing to do. But I can tell you that I do have the freedom to, you know, schedule my day in a way that, you know, I want to. I help with our kids band a lot, you know, building props and with a couple other parents that have some more flexible schedules and stuff. And, you know, and that is nice. I don't feel guilty about it though, because, you know, I guess I still do quite a bit as far as my business goes. But, you know, I'll get there and I probably still won't feel guilty.

I would say that. I would say that one of the things, though is like the mere fact that you can, like, stop working when you want and go, go help your son or the mere fact that you can stop and go on a ride, you know, that's something that you could not do in really any, like, to me, any other business. Right? Like, just go look at anybody that has a business of their own, right? Like, you know, the sandwich shop owner or the, you Know the place where I go get my postage, like my local mailbox. The going postal, I think is what it's called. You know, like when you look at these owners, they're there, right? They're there working 50, 60 hours a week. And you know, I had even talked about like last week the story of like these entrepreneurs at that seminar that I went to where the entrepreneurs are slaving away 70, 80 hours. They're in tears, they're crying. They're not going on a motorcycle ride, they're not picking the plants like Mimi, getting the weeds out of their bit, out of their garden, they're slaving. They're like they have another full time job. And I think that that's really kind of cool and encouraging to hear your side of it too, because you may not experience that survivor skill, but you know, what is that? You benefit from kind of the business that you're creating, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

That's great. Scott Bossman. I mean, what are you going to do, man? Mark's not even here. Like, just me. You don't have the bro fest that you normally have. It's just, oh, Scott's here.

I know. I'm not feeling the love as much as normal sad. All right, so yesterday, yesterday was pretty low key for me since I've been home. I've been home now for about six months. I think a busy morning for me is when I feel like I have to focus, I have to leave the house. So I'll go to Panera and I'll camp out for two or three hours and get a lot of work done. On a lazy day like yesterday, my new routine is exactly like Mimi. I sit on my deck every morning and I have an iced coffee with my feet up on the other lounge chair and my dog sitting next to me. And it is the most amazing feeling in the world because I don't know, I mean, I was in healthcare and half the time I used to work in a nursing home. And I don't know if you guys can appreciate or know how absolutely chaotic it is in one of these settings because you go in at 7:30 in the morning, you leave 5 in the afternoon. You don't sit down all day, you don't get time to eat, you're constantly doing something. And I was in a role where I was speaking not only with patients, but family members and nursing and doctors and I mean, it just, it was insane how stressful it was. So now to be able to sit there on a Monday afternoon on my deck, sip Coffee and work a little bit on my computer and wait for a. Wait for a wire to come in yesterday morning for a cash sale. I'm like, this is insane. And then, you know, I definitely feel survivors guilt. When I mostly feel it is when I go into cover, I go in. I still work just a couple hours a week whenever they need me. If somebody needs to be evaluated at the nursing home, I'll go in, but it's like an hour, an hour and 15 minutes. So I kind of walk in all sheepish, and I leave all sheepish because, you know, I'm joining people who are working really hard, and then I'm leaving an hour later, leaving them working really hard.

I've seen some of your posts on Facebook of your view in the morning, and it's beautiful. I don't know if you. If it was from your house or from a vacation Spotlight. There was snow, and it was absolutely beautiful.

Yeah, I've taken a couple of them lately, so I'm not sure where that one was. But, yeah, we have a beautiful backyard, and it's amazing. Definitely blessed.

Yeah, it's rough when you, like, have to go to Panera Bread, you know, to get away and work, and then you go to the Cheesecake Factory for lunch. I know, it. It's okay.

All right.

I think that we made what, like, I'm gonna guess we've probably made, what, like, 10 or 12 podcasts in a row where we've mentioned the Cheesecake Factory. It's gotta be, like, the longest stretch ever. And, like, Cheesecake Factory, anybody from that company is listening. Show us some love.

Like.

I deserve a kickback for all the hazing I've endured.

Yeah, right. You know, it's crazy.

I mean, I'll just go there before the morning rush, right when it's not loud, and I'll enjoy a meal. No problem.

Cheesecake.

Hey, I don't get any kickbacks from the Amish community.

There's no kickbacks to be had there, buddy.

All right, Tate, I can only imagine what a Monday looks like for you, but all right, let's go with yesterday. What did yesterday look like? And come on, man, I know you've got to have some serious survivor skill, because all your buddies your age, they're all like, oh, my God, I got to work so hard to get ahead. Oh, my God, I got to get a wet rage. And Tate's like, hold my beer, but it's my coke here. So tell us today. Tell us about yesterday.

Well, I think, Scott, you got to back it up. Right. Because it's not like my weekend started on Saturday, right? I mean, I was up in Idaho and I fished the salmon fly hatch. Prior to this, I came home and I was set to work yesterday. I guess it was so my Monday morning. I actually was busy yesterday. I had a lot of stuff going on. I woke up early, I rode my bike out to the Hoover Dam with two buddies, came home, met my wife, we went for brunch with the baby, came home, put her down for a nap. I had a coaching call. So I got to work with a good buddy of mine who just surprised me and told me that he's just about two. He's about one sale away from hitting $8,000 a month passive income in nine months. So that was really exciting. In the afternoon I hung out, I grilled some meat. So started something on the smoker and watched that for a few hours. And that evening I went and I actually fed the homeless. So that's what I did yesterday. So one hour.

Wow.

Wow.

I mean, you had to go with like, I fed the homeless.

Well, I mean, that's why you said like, what did, what did your Monday look like? I was like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna have a drop the mic moment here because it doesn't matter how lazy the rest of you were. Good for the world.

Yeah, you. Yeah, right. Like now, now I'm feeling good following it like.

So, Scott, tell us about your day. How was the boat, you know, like, party again? What were you doing yesterday, Scott?

Well, mine really doesn't matter at this point. You know, like, we'll just drop off at yours, man, like, I should have known and like left you like to the end. I don't know, like, mine sounds very self serving at this point.

But Scott, you can't have. I mean, I know you said I probably deal with survivor's guilt. The main time I deal with survivor's guilt is a lot of times in Nevada when I'm riding, we have these amazing bike paths and they go over the freeways. And in the mornings I'll ride over the top of the freeways and I'll just see the traffic bumper to bumper to bumper for as far as the eye can see. That's when I have survivor's guilt because I think to myself, man, those poor people are just sucking on an exhaust pipe for an hour each morning. That's terrible. I'm out here in the sun, enjoying some fresh air, getting my exercise in, playing with my buddies, and that's when I really start to count my blood. Scenes and go, you know what? This truly is the only life for me. I'm 100% unemployable now. Like I'm broken. I can't work for somebody. Oh, I'd be the worst employee.

All right, so here's my Monday, man. Like here it is. So yeah, what spawned all this was basically I had a very leisure Monday morning. Like I don't know, I didn't even look at my email yesterday. Like I don't think I looked at email at all yesterday. Like at all. And I'm sitting there and I've been reading a book. So yesterday I ran some errands in the morning, had lunch with my wife, came back and basically sat, sat by the pool, just sat by the pool and read a book. Like literally just sat there and had no desire, no interest to even look at my email at all. Just like I didn't know what was going on in the world, didn't know anything about, like no news was on. Like I don't know what happened yesterday. It's just like I lived in my own little cocoon yesterday and it was about, it must have been around like 3:30 when I started feeling guilty. Like man, like I didn't work today.

And.

I've got a busy week with my some family stuff this week and I'm probably not going to do much work at all this week and then next week we're going on a week long vacation. So I'm thinking like, man, I'm not going to really be around to do much for the next two weeks. It's like I'm going to be around, I'm going to be able to look at it at the email if I wanted to or whatever but I have no desire. Like no desire. And then you look at the numbers and it's like the money still came in the door. Like everybody's surviving. And I, that's when I boxed mark around 3:30 and I'm like, mark, I feel guilty man. Like I'm not working, I feel like a bum, right? Like I feel like, I feel like I'm not being productive, all of these things. And then about two hours later he voxed me and said, don't worry about it. I had the greatest day. I had a two hour lunch with my wife. It's fantastic. I'm going to go home, I'm going to go swimming now because it's too hot. I'm going to swim, I might take a nap. And this is all being driven from obviously the passive income, right? When you have that passive income that we're able to create. All of a sudden, you're able to go back and create the lifestyle that you want. And today I had another weird experience about this because, like, whenever people see me or ask me, like, hey, so what do you do now? Or what do you do? I don't really know what to tell them, right? Like, I tell them I'm a real estate investor. But, like, how do you tell somebody that you make your living selling dirt and that people literally, like, keep sending you paychecks? Doesn't that feel weird?

Mimi?

Do you feel weird when people ask you, like, oh, what do you do now?

Yeah, they don't really believe it. They don't really get it.

Yeah, like, oh, I'm a land investor.

What?

How does that work? You can cash flow this stuff. I mean, is that not a weird conversation?

Mimi, can I tell? I love this. When I first set up my LLC with my bank, I went in and talked with folks, got it all set up. I tried to get a $15,000 loan. Couldn't get any money to start my business, right? So now it's been a couple years. I go in there every week or every other week to either get a cashier's check or for a cash sal, sign the deed over. And I've been talking with the notaries and the bank manager. The bank manager will come out now and find me when I walk in. And he can't believe, because I'll tell him, oh, you won't believe. I bought this one for this much. I sold it for this one in a day. I double closed. I'm getting the money before I'm even paying for it. And he wants to become a Lange, the manager of my bank. He's like, you have to send me the information, because over the years, I've sold him. And he's like, you know, we have great rates on business loans now. Like, I don't need it. Thanks, though.

Well, it's funny, Mimi, I had that same conversation with my wife just today. I said, you know what? It's the weirdest thing. Like, back in the day, when I was starting off, like, I ran out of money. I bought all this land, and I, like, ran out of money. I went to the bank, and I'm like, hey, look, here's what I got. I, like, showed them everything I have, and I'm like, can't I get some loan from all this stuff to keep it rolling? They're like, well, you know, you could do a home equity loan or whatever. And I'm like, no, no, I want it on the business. I don't want to take it out of my equity, of my house. And like, no, no, no, you can't do it. Well, like today, like you said today, I don't need the loan, I don't need the money. And it's the nuttiest thing because you walk in and every time I'm there they're like, you know, typically I'm like, hey, here's another deposit or I need to open up another company, llc, whatever, and all this other stuff. They know me, I walk in and they're like, what can we do for you today? And they always ask me like, can we have the commercial banker call you? And I'm like, no, I don't need your money. And they're like, what? And then today like I went to go and I'm like, buying something. And they're like, would you like to finance this? And I'm like, no, not really. And they're like, why? And I'm like, why pay interest? I can pay cash, what's the problem? And they're like, well, it's kind of cheap money. And I'm like, I don't need it, I'm good here, let's keep rolling. And I'm telling my wife, like I can't even fathom they even understand. Like they can't under. They see the world like I see the world differently than they see it now. And that's a really cool thing. So it's funny that you brought that up.

Yeah. You're going to be meeting my branch, my bank manager at one of the boot camps soon, I imagine.

Eric, what do you tell people? Like, what do you do?

Yeah, I don't like that question because I never know how to answer it, you know, I mean, you say you're a real estate investor and then they're thinking, alright, you know what, you own some apartments or you know, a single family home you're renting out or what is it? You know, and it, it just turns into like a longer conversation than a lot of times you want to have. But when I do take the time to actually explain it, people are always just kind of blown away by it and they're, they're like, that is really cool. Sounds exciting. And often, you know, they want to know more about it. But yeah, it's, it's one of those questions I don't enjoy too much.

It sounds nutty. Because they don't understand it. They think it's weird. I don't know, bear land. Maybe you're maybe, Maybe your neighbors, they all get it, but maybe not. What do you say?

No, it's. I kind of have that same feeling as Eric, but usually when I get the question, you know, I tell them I'm real estate investor. I buy and sell raw land. It's kind of like flipping houses, only with just land. And then they give me that blank stare, and that's about it. So, like, hey, it was nice to.

Talk to you because it's like, what, What? It's crazy, Scott. What happens over there, what happens over here?

Same thing. I try to keep it brief. I work at home with some real estate investing, and if they press the issue, I'll tell them a little bit more about it. But it's funny, the reaction you get every once in a while. I saw an old coworker a few weeks ago who I hadn't worked with in about four or five years, and I'll see her occasionally, but she's like, so where are you now? Where are you practicing? And I said, well, I actually hung up. The pt, the work. I still work a couple afternoons a week for an hour or two. She's like, what? I said, yeah, I'm in real estate investing now. What kind? Well, you're going to think it sounds funny, but I buy and sell raw land. She's like, what? She Completely, completely off guard because I, you know, at that time when I knew her, I don't think that she would conceive the possibility of me doing that.

Yeah. I'm telling you, like, it's. It's so crazy. And then the thing is, it's like people never even think about land. It's. It's the nuttiest thing because it's right there in front of them. We walk on the earth, it's beneath our feet all the time. And it's like. You ever heard, like, something so simple, like, you know, the simplest things are the. Are the best things. You can't get any simpler than land.

It's.

It's crazy when new people, when you meet someone and like, hey, what do you do?

What do you.

What do you tell them? Like, you know, like, I'm independently wealthy. I don't know.

Like.

Like I used to, I used to. When I. When I bought my house, my neighbors were all really curious about me, and I used to just tell them, I'm an import and export, right? And they looked at me like, what is. What does that mean? I was like, you know, shipping. And they looked at me like, yeah, this guy is. This guy's lost it who just moved in next door. Now when people ask me, my wife doesn't like it when I allude to the fact that I've got a shady career choice. So I just tell them I'm in real estate. And you know, people always pry and it's like, it's pretty, you know, it's not exciting. You wouldn't probably like it, but it has to do with. With vacant land in the middle of the desert. And they look at me like, all right, next in line. Like, even my in laws, I'm not sure they fully understand what I do for work. I mean, first of all, I don't think I work, and that's probably not earning me any brownie points. But, you know, I mean, it's a funny question to ask because I do, you know, have a lot of friends that are very curious about what I'm doing and why I'm home and available to do anything they want to do at any given day or time of the week. And, you know, they're definitely curious. But it's a niche market and the competition is honestly non existent. Nobody's ever met another land investor, right? I mean, before this, had you ever spoken to anyone in your whole life, Scott, that was in raw land?

No, it's. It's the, it's the nuttiest thing, man. It really is.

So when you tell somebody, it's like the chances of you meeting like a rocket scientist are probably greater than meeting a land investor. So it just goes to show you how small the competition market is. I mean, there is no. I'm not worried about other people. That's why we do these podcasts, right? Like, the more the merrier, honestly. But yeah, it's a weird question when you get asked that, but it's good to pull people's legs and make them think that you do what you do. And they could never understand it because the reality is they don't. They have no idea that this marketplace even exists.

You can always tell that you created the ipod.

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

There's an Adam Sandler movie where that was the line, I created the ipod. Oh, really?

He's like, yeah, I created the ipod. And then everybody just kind of drops.

It, like, oh, wow, sounds great. Yeah, it's all good.

I do tell people like, oh, I'm on a weekly podcast. I tell people that.

I'm on a weekly podcast. Like, I don't know, we talk about.

They like that. They get that. And there's a wow factor. Yes. I'm a professional podcaster. They come to my house and they see the cool, funky light. Oh, wow, you really are.

I had a friend come over and he, like, came into the garage Mahal and he saw like my. My podcast mic and like the computer and everything set up. And he's like, whoa, what's going on here? And I was like, oh, you know, I'm on a podcast every week. And he was like, oh, oh, yeah, yeah. So that's what you do. You're a podcaster. I'm like, it's one of the many hats I wear.

Well, you know, it's funny that you bring that up because, like, I've got, you know, like, I always joke, I got a TV studio here, right? Like, I've got high end cameras, lights, microphones, all this other stuff. And when, especially at night when I'm doing flight school and the lights are bright and it's all on, sometimes I'll go outside and look up and you just see these big white soft boxes up there because the blinds are open. And I'm thinking like, anybody walking by must think like, man, is that guy on, like, Fox News, cnn, cbs? What network is that guy on? You know? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it.

We're on the Land Geek network.

They probably think you got some sort of illegal grow operation up there with the license glaring. It's like the second sun of the earth coming out of Scott's upstairs.

Yeah, I'll have to take a picture one night and like, put it. I'll put it out there. Maybe I can do that tonight. Like, put it out there. Just what the neighbors for the rest of the day.

That's what you could do.

I could get that set up. That's right.

Yeah. That could be your afternoon.

Yeah, but I don't need to do anything. It's already set up.

Well, you can plan for it.

So this week, Mimi has a tip of the week. Mimi, what do you have?

Okay, this is the coolest thing. So I bought a couple properties lately, and people go out on the weekends and I'm so excited. They're going to visit my property and they'll call me and they'll say, I can't even imagine how you build on this slope.

Like, slope.

Oh, my goodness. Right. So I can go look at the elevation. But I found this website. It's called top of you by the US Geospatial Survey. Okay, so when you click the link, bring your Cursor down and click there somewhere. I just use Costilla. It'll show you all the maps that it's got from like 1880 up to the present. Okay. And if you click on the word show, I don't know if you can. It'll put like the old map. Like right now I've got a map from 1954. And you can move this transparency bar up, up and down or back and forth. And you can see how it's changed over time. Like, Sanchez Reservoir is like six times as big as it used to be. There used to be a railroad track through there. So I think it's the coolest thing. And all you have to do to download the picture, you can just press this JPEG arrow, Kamzi geotiff or PDF. It even tells you how big before you do it. So you just press that. Or you can, of course, you know, click it where your property is and then do a screen grab, you know. But I think it's so cool.

Wow, that is really cool. All the way back to 1880, you know, potentially.

Yeah. It'll show you the list of all the maps that it's got. So some of these street names I haven't been able to figure out. And I got them out of here, so it's cool. Geospatial tool.

And look at that.

I mean, like, I went back and looked this one area I was looking at, I went to 1954. And when you compare it to 2016, there's actually weird changes in the elevation too. Like elevation of the ground is changing too.

Yeah. When you ride it back and forth. So. And it's got a lot of things listed in it that I didn't know were there. So. Always useful to learn about the area.

Wow, that's really cool, Mimi.

I just booked Mark this. This is. That's cool, actually, that, you know, you.

Can always use it to enhance the pictures that you've got for the property since we don't get out there to actually see them.

Which is another funny story.

Yes, I completely agree. You buy it and you've never seen it.

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Jeez.

Aaron actually did it. No. Oh, you didn't. I thought I heard you. No, no, that's what was up then. I think we were trying to go slow for you.

Oh, sorry.

All right, so what are you guys doing the rest of the day? Nothing.

That's it.

I'm gonna go.

Moses.

Revamping our website.

All right, real fast, Tate, are you done or still working today?

I'm done. I'm gonna go get some froyo.

Alright, so for you, it's lunchtime. Froyo, bossman. What are you doing?

Mowing the lawn Right now at 2:45 in the afternoon, which none of my neighbors can do. And then I have two baseball games tonight for my boys.

Well, it's three, three, four, three here. I was getting ready to go like go see the mess the pool guys made when they mowed the lawn and threw all this, all the debris into the pool, but raining. So I'm gonna wait a little bit. Bear land. What are you doing? Working on your website.

Working on a website. Gonna go run first, I think then I'll probably help. Help my son with some stuff at his work to get him set up for the next week.

Are you.

Are you taking the WordPress class on investor ninjas.com?

I just finished it and it was excellent.

Excellent.

There was, yeah, I gotta say, because WordPress, you know, updated to this Gutenberg and I had been kind of procrastinating on fixing some website issues because I thought, well, it's something else I have to learn, you know, it's gonna take time. And then this class showed up on the Investor Ninjas site and I'm like, oh, that's perfect. I went through it and now I've got a great understanding of all the things I need to do. It was.

It was perfect.

And you know what's really cool about that is that they're going to keep it updated. So any changes, they take care of it. That's cool, right? You'll. You'll always be able to go back and get the most latest update. All right, Mimi, you got to go pick some flowers, some weeds or what? What are you doing?

We have a coaches call. I think we have a coach's call. I got to finish an offer on a 10 property deal. I got to set up the payment my sale from this weekend and then I'M done.

Nice, Eric.

What you got?

I'm going to review some applicants on upwork. That's about it.

That's fun.

Me.

We're going to punch out now, so appreciate you guys joining and we'll see everybody next week.