When Success Doesn’t Bring Happiness—Why You Need To Have Balance In Life

Hey, it's Mark Podolski, the land geek with your favorite niche real estate website, www.thelandgeek.com. and I'm really excited to talk to today's guest. But before we get too involved, too deep, right, because let me tell you something, this is going to be deep. I want to introduce my, my Coca Mike, my co host. Because you know him, you love him. Sigma Baby Scott Todd from scotttod.net landmodo.com and if you're not automating your Craigslist postings, posting domination.com thelandgeek Anything else? We should plug Scott before we get started with our interview?

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We finally figured it out.

I love it. We knew, kind of knew it. But like now we're just skipping straight to the good stuff. All right, let's talk about today's guest.

Because he's gonna, he's gonna, I mean, I think this is timely, right? Like him being here with us as we're talking about flight school. It's really timely. Mark.

Yeah. Jeff Slater from jeffreyslater.com he's basically a younger, let's say better looking version of Tony Robbins.

Right?

He is your leadership go to guy. He helps big time executives get to the next level. Right. But more than that, he's not just about the money. He's more about the entire human awakening experience. But I don't think I'm even doing it justice. Jeff Slater, how are you?

I'm great, thank you. I'm even taller than Tony Robbins. I'm just kidding. I'm only about half his size. But really, it's a privilege to be here with you guys. Thanks for the work you guys do. And to the people listening, thank you. Thanks for having me on. I look forward to sharing some insightful Stuff to support people. And that, that gap you're talking about and closing that gap, how are you closing it? How are you closing.

How are you closing that gap, Jeffrey?

Oh, I'm closing the gap for myself is, man, you know, I think earlier you talked about that suck factor. It's just learning about being comfortable with being uncomfortable and continually riding that uncomfortable edge of evolution for myself so that I can but learning to be find comfort in that. In fact, I've also found that when I feel comfortable, when I feel comfortable, at times it gets me a little bit uncomfortable. So, you know, the people listening is if we're too comfortable in our life, maybe it's time for a shift and it's time for some sort of transformation in our life. And so how I close that gap is I look for what gives me butterflies in my stomach, makes me feel nervous, and I do it.

It's so funny that you mentioned that. So. But you obviously, you know, something happened in your life where you kind of came to this realization. So kind of, let's, let's start with young Jeffrey. And then how did you transform into Tony Robbins esque?

Well, young Jeffrey was. I used to think that when I, when I, when I finally made it the world, you know, my first, my first, you know, those. They used to raise, they race those greyhound dogs, which I'm not really a fan of, but they race those dogs and then there's this metal rabbit, right? And they chase the metal rabbit. The dogs all chase this metal rabbit. And we as humans, we look at this, this rabbit and, and we can't believe they're all chasing a rabbit as fast as they do, but it's metal. And, and I used to, when I was, earlier in life I wanted to, I was on the racetrack chasing the metal rabbit and the metal rabbit was, here's, you know, make millions of dollars, get a white picket fence, have some nice cars. And that was my metal rabbit. And so I went after it because I thought that when I finally got that rabbit, I had, I won the race and I'll be somebody. So I went after that and I was one of the few dogs that probably earlier in life that grabbed the metal rabbit. And I shmur.

Ah.

I realized it was metal. And I went back to try and tell all the other dogs that it's metal and it's not real and everything. And they just kind of thought I was crazy at times around that. And then I was like, okay, I guess that's not how it is. So then I made another metal rabbit and Thinking it wasn't, you know, success is, it's not a white picket fence, it's not money, it's not that. And I was like, maybe it's making a huge difference in the world. Maybe that's the next metal rabbit. Maybe I want to go stand on stage with Tony Robbins, Dr. DeMartini and Tim Ferriss. And so I toured all around the world, 13 different countries, speaking to millions of people about business and life and having a life by design. And then I got off stage of one of these big things. About 4,000, 5,000 people got off stage and nothing was different. So I went after two metal rabbits thinking that that was what fulfillment is going to be and finally concluded that I'm never going to find anything that's going to make me any happier than I am right now in the moment. Nothing external is ever going to make me any happier than where I am right now. So. And that's very uncomfortable to know that we're not going to find any answers outside of ourselves. So the only place left to go is actually inward. And the more I journey inward into myself, the more I discover that actually it's an endless, endless discovery and it's evolution itself. And we as the human beings in this world, to step into our true leadership, we have to find our own leadership within ourselves. I have my path. Everyone here has their own path. And so what I love to do is work with people to find their own leader within themselves, beyond the external stuff.

So Scott Todd, you, you chased that metal rabbit. You caught it working. You're an executive for a Fortune 300 company. You caught it, you wrestled it to the ground. You're like, you know what? I'm still a slave, A comfortable slave, but I'm still a slave. Yeah, now you're free. And is what Jeffrey, what Jeffrey's talking about? Is it resonating with you personally or is this too woo woo for you and your ideals?

No, no, I think, I think Jeffrey's right. I think that, you know, you know, like you, you, you follow the path, right? Like you follow the path and you go down that path and then, you know, you, when you achieve it, you kind of look around, you're like, okay, well, I just, I just, I just became a vice president. I don't feel different. Like you're excited, right? Like you're excited and you're like high fiving people and like, you know, you have the support of your family and it's like, man, it's like winning the gold medal, right? Like I did it and then you realize like, okay, though the work might be a little bit more challenging, the demands might be a little bit more challenging, but nothing changed, right? Like I didn't change.

Yeah. You know, I remember this distinctly. I don't think I've ever shared this story. When I was doing investment banking, I made my first hundred thousand dollar commission check, which was a tremendous amount of money for me at that time. And I was going to go out and buy my first home. It was maybe my second home with my wife. You know, my wife is pregnant. And so like we were going to get like this big home. And at that time, like, okay, here's our down payment money. And I remember distinctly going and looking at myself in the mirror, I swear, and thinking to myself, I must be different now. Do I look different? No, I wasn't any different. And what was interesting is it almost was a sad realization that, you know, I still don't feel like I'm not, I'm enough Jeffrey. You ever have that feeling?

Yeah, and I feel like that's part of the human experience to have is many of us have been programmed to not feel enough and just that what you're sharing about looking in the mirror, I remember going, you know, I have time my hands to research and contemplate things and travel. And one time I was, I woke up in the morning and I had read, I'd read on the Internet that if you sleep naked you feel better. Okay. So I was like, I was like, I'm going to try that because it's healthier. So I tried it one night, slept naked, did feel better and that was pretty cool. That's a tip right there. There's one. So then I woke up. Then I woke up, I looked in the mirror and I was, you know, naked. And I was standing in front of myself naked, supposedly naked. And I was looking at myself. I was like, I wish I was a little bit stronger, a little more like Tony Robbins, slightly taller, you know, everything else. And that's that self critic inside myself wishing I was more. And then, then this thought came to me because I'm into this leadership transformation stuff. And I was like, am I really naked? You know, it was deep thought we started to get deep, right? Am I really naked? And there I was standing for the mirror and I was like, I'm not naked, but I'm naked, I'm clothed. With all this freaking cultural programming, this is what success is. This is what makes you happy, Jeff. This is how to eat, this is how to think. And all this programming that I was actually clothed with. And then so I realized I really wasn't naked. And me. And I haven't been naked my whole life as a human being. And I need to do some serious work on myself to go strip away all this programming of what it is to be human. And pretty much everything that I was told in life and through the education system and through just normal society, I've found is pretty much wrong and off and doesn't actually give me the direct experience of what it is to actually enjoy my life. So my question has always been to go back to the original premise of who we are as human beings. Who are we beyond all this? Because we're not our jobs. I'm not, you know, we're not our careers, we're not our companies, we're not any of it. We're not our failures, we're not our successes. Who are we beyond it? And I just started asking really deep questions because when I started to get some answers to those questions, I started to find more, more enjoyment in the little things again. And it's great to make money, it's good to have all that. But man, when, you know, when we go back to the depths of who we are and we match that with some sort of calling in her life, life gets pretty incredible.

Scott, Todd, what are your, what are your thoughts?

I love it. You know, I think that, I think he's on to something. You know, I could think that. I think that you've got to go, you got to go deeper and you.

Got.

You know, you've got to, you got to find that, that piece that's going to accelerate you.

You do. And, you know, I'll say I didn't think I was onto something until I started getting. Because I'll take some people to jungles and do these crazy adventures and things like that with some people that are worth hundreds of millions or billions of dollars. And we're sitting around with these indigenous medicine men and women in their, what's called Maloka's. And we're sitting around and they don't talk about their strategy and their profitability in these places. They're talking about their kids, their families. The conversations are really quite deep. They're about their own relationship to themselves. And so people often will pooh, pooh this stuff. But at the top levels of leadership, they're having conversations about consciousness, about themselves, about themselves as leaders. They're not having what do I do next? Conversations. They're having conversations about their relationship to the universe and themselves and their place in this galactic family and who they are as a human being and what it is to be human. And I used to kind of be a little bit shy about sharing this stuff, but when I spent time with people that are the people that I used to look up to, and sitting in these conversations, I've come to realize actually this is how it actually is. This is normal and successful people. Success. I don't mean success like money. I mean successful people that have their life in accordance to their own soul's journey. The conversations are much deeper and they're more fulfilling.

Scott.

Todd, do you have these woo woo type conversations with your friends?

No, no, not at all. Do you, Mark?

You know, I don't, but I do remember being at a party and I was talking to this guy and he's worth probably over $200 million, right? And instead of kind of approaching him and asking him about business or the economy or what, you know, the typical things that people would ask him just came and I just asked him like, so what are your kids into? And he lit up, right? Lit up. And we started talking about our children and what they're into. And it kind of led to all these other things and had like that kind of a deeper connection. I think that, that what Jeffrey was saying is, right. Like it's, there's, there's sort of this, this cultural thing here where your identity is kind of based on what do you do, right? How many times have you been to a party? Hey, so what do you do for a living? Oh, I'm an insurance agent, entrepreneur, whatever it is. But that's not really what you are. And most likely that's not truly your passion in life, right? It's something that you do that's, you know, being, you know, taking care of yourself in this world. But it's not you and it's your identity because what happens when you lose that job? Yeah. Yeah.

You know, it's funny because, Mark, like, you know, leading a team, if there's any managers that are listening this podcast, you, you probably know this, or at least I hope you know it. The thing about leading a team is that, you know, if you really want to motivate people, if you really want them to execute for you, it's not about like, hey, you know, where are we on this, you know, where are we on this, you know, project? Or, you know, what are we doing there? You got to get this done. I mean, you can demand all you want. That's not what's going to motivate people. What's Going to motivate people is for them to have a desire to perform for you. And the best way to do that is to build that human connection. And like two stories. One, you know, if you're looking for something and you kind of hit on it, if you're looking for something to talk about, well, look at what's on their desk, look at what's on their screensavers. Look at what's hanging in their cubicle walls. It's not, you know, a picture of what success on this project looks like. It's a picture of their wife, their husband, their kids. And you go to them and you say, hey, tell me about your kids. Now you formed a human connection with them, and they will do. Once you have that connection, they will do anything for you. And so I know there's managers out there that really want to be, you know, strict against, you know, I don't want to know anything about the employee. But that's how you connect with people at a. At a human level. It's not about. It's not about the project or what you're working on. It's about the people around them, because that's what motivates them.

I was just going to say that. Thank you. Because it needs to be said after consulting some of these top companies, the days are over where people check their humanness at the door. You want to run companies that are profitable, that have high margins, where there's high engagement, and high engagement equals profitability. Your employees, your teams have to not check their humanness at the door. And so we are human beings, and we need to relate to each other as human beings. And those managers that relate to people as robots, they're going to become obsolete, and they're gone. And the entrepreneurs that do that, that relate to other people as robots, they're gone. Those are obsolete, like dinosaurs. Because where we're going is to an era where we are in. Is an era where humans, we don't check our humanness at the door. And this is the leadership of tomorrow. And we're evolving to where the leader, the leaders, each of us are becoming leaders in our own right. It's almost like the leadership is almost disappearing and we're transcending leadership itself. We're beyond the definition of what a leader actually is and relating to each other even at deeper and deeper levels, which get higher engagement, higher profitability, and retain the people that we want to retain. Retaining good people is everything when running a company.

Well, you know, like, the one thing that separates companies is not necessarily their product or their service. Because Mark even talked about the beginning of this podcast. You know, like the information gap or the knowledge gap is next to nothing. There's no gap. But what separates companies, and I don't care how big of a company you are, is the culture and the people. Right. You know, it's the culture and the people that drive you to do business with the same people over and over and over again. It's not. I'm not buying stuff from Amazon just because they're. They're cheapest anymore. I'm buying stuff from Amazon because I know how they execute and they've built a culture that I wanted to do business with.

Yeah, agreed. I mean, so I guess the people listening is. I know that they're building teams. Is, you know, what's the culture of a company? What, where is it on the walls when they walk in? I was just working with one of the larger companies out here in Australia and the place. And the place was a little bit empty. I said, well, what's the culture? But the guy has a personal culture. I said, get that culture in your company. And how do we express this on the walls? And when people walk in and the meetings and the off sites. I grew up just. This is a. I grew up in an entrepreneurial family. My father was a serial entrepreneur and he struggled with his first couple businesses. And then many people probably know the company now, it's called Odesk or Elance is also up. Merged with upwork, so he's the co founder of that. And now he's no longer there. But look, it's entrepreneurism. And I grew up in Silicon Valley, so this is in my blood. And I have my own company and continue to. I just. What I want to share with you is this is having grown up in these entrepreneurial families, what I found is that culture is key for retaining people that are smarter than you as a leader. And we want to be surrounded by people that are smarter than us. You know, I'm good at what I do. Other people are good at what they do, and we want to put ourselves together. I live in. There's this beautiful beach outside right here. And pretty much if you look it up online, there's like Byron Bay, there's dolphins and they're always surfing outside.

I love Byron Bay.

Yeah, it's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful. And you know what's interesting is these dolphins are outside. And the way dolphins lead is there's no ever one dolphin leads for a while, then another dolphin leads, then another dolphin leads. That's how dolphins lead. And so there's this leadership model between dolphins, which I feel that dolphins might have. They're more connected to nature than. We're never going to do a better nature. But the dolphins lead and then the next dolphin lead for a while. And so really they're just trading. There's no hierarchy inside of it. And it's pretty incredible. And so what I've noticed with these companies is the organizations are starting to become a little more flat in a way, and it's really interesting to watch. I'm not saying that go flat in your organization org chart all of a sudden because that's a little fast. But culture and people becoming the leaders within themselves and they're empowering each other. And that's my experience with it. Something to reconsider.

Yeah, that's great.

That's cool.

Though, also about your dad, you had some good. It's cool about your dad too.

But you know what? I'll share with this. I was flying to Queenstown with my father and there's this one tip, he said, because I've learned a lot from him. And one thing is persistence. And he end. Persistence is key to any driver, to building any sort of company. Persist, persist, persist, persist. Because so if I just take that away. But I asked, what'd you learn from me? And we're. I was taking him skydiving in Queenstown on this leadership summit, and we were on the plane and I said, what'd you learn from me? And he said, son, I built. I built companies. So what I did is I built companies and I started with what I want to build a company. And I tried to jam my life into my company. And he goes, and that was a mistake. He goes, what I've learned from you, son, is start with what do you want in your life? Where do you want to live? How do you want to live? Who do you want to spend time with? And then build a company around that to support that. And then that builds a culture of enjoyment, a culture of fun, a culture of innovation. Because now my. Now my businesses support my life. Where my father at the time, it was still great. But he built a company first and he tried to jam his life into it. Now he's retired, hanging out. And now I think he's found his. His own groove again, his own life.

Jeffrey, what do you say to the guy or the gal. Yeah, Proctor. I always picked on Procter and Gamble. Procter and Gamble, right now they're middle management. They're making 250,000 a year salary. They've got all the Perks. They work 60 hours a week. They don't have a strong relationship with their children because they don't get to see them. They don't have a great relationship with their wife because they're too tired at night to spend any time. Right? Yeah, but they're, they're, they don't know way out, right? They're scared, right? Yeah, they're there. They've got the mortgage, they've got the private school, they've got the car more. They got the car payment. They've got what looks like a great life now. Everyone else is enjoying it. Their children are enjoying it for the most part, or it's so it seems their wife is enjoying it even though basically no one has a strong relationship. And everyone's kind of pretty miserable with that kind of program for the most part. Maybe not. Right. But I kind of hear it a little bit time to time, like, you know, I'm working too hard, I make good money, but I don't have any freedom.

Right.

And my children, I don't even see them that much. And next thing you know, it's Monday. What do you say to that person?

Oh, first I want to cry for him. It's very sad. It's part of the slaving program that, that I, you know, and $250,000 sounds like a lot of money. But when you're living in, let's say, Silicon Valley, you're just kind of getting started, you're making ends meet and it's unfortunate. So here's what I would say. It depends on who it was, but I'd probably have a very. Let's just say the person was open for change. Now oftentimes they're not because they have too much at risk. Because their whole ecosystem and their identity is built into that particular person. I would say how much longer, you know, how much more pain, how much, how much more suffering do you want to experience? But the thing is, the pain isn't enough yet, because it's not. It hasn't really sunk in. But when they're 80 years old and they're sitting there and they look back, maybe that'll be enough. So how much longer do you want to suffer or silently suffer? When is it going to be enough? You know, are you really enjoying your life? Because one day it's all going to end. And when you can face death, when you can face death and look at in the eye and go, hey, someday I'm going to die. Which is something we in the Western world never really actually come present to because we avoid it like the plague. But when we can actually go into the. The mere fact that the person, if they don't have anything to live for, they have nothing, sorry, if they don't have anything to die for, there's nothing to live for in general. So I'd ask them, what are you willing to die for? And they might say they're family. Then are you spending time with your family? How much time do you spend with them? Do you enjoy it? And the answer is probably very minimal. What's the impact on you? And then I'd ask them another question. I'd say, what are you really, really, really afraid of? What are you afraid is true about you that you don't want anyone else to know? And what would you lose if you actually left that job that you value because there's some part of you that values being in these types of positions? And there's nothing wrong with it. There's people that should be in those jobs because they love it. But if we don't love what we do, then we are wasting away. We are taking up space on this planet. And I know that it's not their fault and they have their reasons because they got to make ends meet. But life happens at the edge. Life happens at the edge of what we think is possible. You know, how's it, I'd ask them how their imagination's going. Do they have an imagination or is it killed out of them? Who told them that this is the path and is it their voice that keeps them going or is it somebody else's said this is what actually success is. I'd have them question what they think, what they think perhaps success actually is and we go back to what true success actually isn't for themselves. I'd probably tell them to take a trip and get outside of. Get outside the ant hill and go somewhere else and spend 10 days alone somewhere or with a couple people in a jungle and see what happens as everything seems to strip away. What I find at the core with human beings is when we strip away all that stuff, really human beings we can be quite happy with a lot less. And then from when you get back to that point, if you want to make money and everything else, it's not coming from lack they're coming from. This is just an expression. Actually, when we make more money, we can channel money in good causes. Money's not the money. Often money is considered the root of all evil, when really it's not. We Just need more conscious people with more money. And then I'd actually appreciate the person for doing the work they do because they probably are very hard on themselves.

What a great tweetable quote there, Scott. Todd. We need more conscious people with money.

Yeah, that's true. It's funny because when you get out, like, I mean, you kind of said this and, you know, when. When I broke free of the corporate job, it was. It was kind of told me, they came to me and said, hey, thanks for everything, but we're going to go a different route. And you and 85% of the other people on this team are gone. I had seen it coming and I had planned. I had planned and started investing in land and followed Mark's program. And, you know, I was. I was prepared, you know, like, I. I was prepared. However, no matter how much you prepare and, you know, like, okay, things are going to be okay, it gets scary, and then, you know, you break free and you realize, like, okay, man, I did what I wanted to do. Like, I achieved what I wanted to achieve. And then you start to look at like, holy cow, I did it. But now you start to feel guilty for other people. You know, like, it's almost like I'm saying. And then you start to realize, like, you got money here, and the money. It's not about the money. Because, Mark, you say it all the time, too. You can always create more money. It's not about the money. It's about how do you. What do you do with it? And then how do you help people be better because of what you have? You know, whether it's, you know, donating to your church or donating to just, you know, somebody that you see in need. You can really impact a lot of people's lives just. Just with little. Little changes in your own.

Agreed.

Agree.

I told you guys this was going to be deep. No one believed me at the beginning of the podcast, but, Jeff Slater, you're the real deal. But we are, unfortunately, at that point in the podcast where I've got to put you on the spot and ask to. To give the Art of Passive Income Model listeners a tip of the week. A website, a resource, a book, something actionable where they can improve their businesses, improve their lives. What have you got?

Sure. Write down every area in your life that you lose track of time with. So maybe it's playing music. Maybe it's sitting with your kids. Maybe it's sitting by the fire. Maybe it's going to the beach. Maybe it's. It's being innovative with your friends and having great conversations or listening to podcasts like this that are interesting and compelling with good people. Maybe it's investing in land and those kinds of things where you like those strategy conversations. Write every area in your life that you lose track of time with and then. And then find a way to spend all of your time in those domains because then you'll be more true to who you are, which is we have no beginning, we have no end and we are timeless beings which exist outside of the dimension of time. Time is omnidirectional. Everything they've told us. Time is the biggest lie in the world and time doesn't exist. So therefore when we don't exist in time and we do everything according to note that we lose track of time in we are in flow of our life and flow of our true calling in the world. So make a list. Develop that specific list and then look at the gap between where how much time you spend in things that you are tracking time and that and get do everything possible. Like maybe passive income. Get as much income as you can to actually spend as much time as possible in the is you lose track of time and your life will be magic.

Time to get on the boat. Scott Todd, I know you're losing track of time there, man.

I got to go now.

Right.

Like this is serious.

Yeah, we're going on a hike right outside my house. We got a beautiful mountain reserve and I love hiking.

That's it, guys. And you know what? The companies that succeed, they have a balance of this stuff. We're programmed to be so frickin busy all the time. Busyness is not, is not achievement. We don't take inspired action. And so we got to get. Do it. Do more hikes in the middle of the day. Richard Branson spend time walking around his island for a couple, for an hour a day or so when he's on Necker. Everyone needs to chill out and let the manifestation come to them. And action at times.

I love it. So you know, Scott Todd, this is like the exact opposite of Grant Cardone.

It is. Yeah.

Being said, you know, those guys are having fun, right? That they're. When they're doing what they're doing, they're losing track of time. And again, you know, I know it sounds a little woo woo, but it's not that Jeffrey's anti money or anti success. Right.

It's just guys, I'm fine with it having, you know, have it all. It's all good. Get a Ferrari, whatever you want. Yeah.

But it, but if you're not.

If you're not happy, you're not happy. None of it matters.

No, it doesn't matter at all. Look, I've spent time with two. I've had the money. I've been with people with much more money than me, and if they're not happy, it's all worthless. So might as well get that out of the way and find that while you go make a bunch of money and change the world.

Yeah. This is one of the reasons I'm so obsessed with death. I think about death all day, every day. Like, this could be my last moment, which is why I'm such a foodie. Like, wait, is this going to be my last meal? My last meal, right? What else is more important in life? What else do you do more than three times a day? That's true.

I love good food. I love good food.

And I'm trying to get Scott Todd to stop eating meat and potatoes and eat some Indian food, and he just keeps putting his nose up to it. But that's a whole other podcast, is getting Scott Todd to awaken his culinary senses.

But that's.

There's always the navata korma. There's the pada. There's so much good. There's mango chutney. There's so much good food, Scott. You just suffer after for a day. But it's hard.

I've had Indian food twice with Mark, so, you know, like, I don't know what he's talking about.

The second time, Cole was like, yeah, Dad, I want to do this. It was just the two we got.

We got back to our safe, safe house here, and there's no Indian food.

So I'm shipping you some Tide tonight. Anyways, Scott Todd, what's your tip of the week? All right.

You know, I'm a Mac user, and I love this one. It's called getremotely.com. getremotely.com is an app that you can download onto your Mac, and then you also download an app onto your iPhone. Because if you have a Mac, you have to have an iPhone. It's a rule, I think. Basically, it allows you to access your hard drive from your Mac. The entire hard drive. Not a Dropbox, not one of the file sharing apps. It's your entire hard drive. Check it out, Mark, you'll be a fan.

I'm getting it right now. I love this. Okay. Done and done. You know what? I want to ask Jeffrey one more question before I give my tip of the week, which is going to be go to Jeffrey Slater. I have a link to it. I'll just plug you one more time. Jeffrieslater.com we'll just call him the short Tony Robbins. So it's just easy to put them in that box, right? Jeffrey, I have a problem. I'm not. I'm not ashamed to admit it, but I need help with it. Be curious what you. What you would say to me. I have an iPhone addiction where I will obsessively check my email for something good all the time. I can't. I can't. I should say I can't. It's really hard for me to be present with whomever I'm at if I have this phone near me. Okay. It's like, ding, ding, ding. It's like Pavlovian for me. You got a good one, right?

Yeah.

Help me. Jeffrey said.

Yeah, that's a. It's a very human thing right now that's going on. I would ask you, you know, there's times. There's. There's times when that's important. So I. You know, there's a party that wants. There's probably a part of you, like every human being that wants to stay on top of things. So I really acknowledge your commitment to wanting to stay on top of things and make sure you're looking after yourself and your family, looking after the people that are calling in. So I think we should just give it some gratitude because it's so easy to beat ourselves up for all these things. We're always trying to be better. And so thank you for your commitment to try to looking after people and making sure you're on top of things. It's not easy to be on top of everything. And so I tell everybody, you know, let's give ourselves some love. It's easy to beat ourselves up. So good job.

Oh, thank you. You're. I'm going to tell my wife that. Yeah.

Yeah. And then once you acknowledge yourself, you can decide to do something different if you want. And if you don't want to, that's cool, too, because it's a time to check your iPhone and try to be on it and a time not to be. But you know when that time is, and you know when that time isn't for all of everyone listening, because, you know, we, as human beings, we do this. So when it's the time not to be, just then choose not to. And a good exercise I do is when you. When I, like, I'm gonna go to the beach after this and probably go, and I don't bring my iPhone with me. Like, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. But most time I don't, I leave it. And that's my time away from that thing because that thing can be very distracting from my own soul's journey. And it's a nice challenge to unplug myself from it.

Yeah, I'm sorry. I wasn't even listening on your iPhone. Joking. I'm totally joking. Now you know how my family feels. I just projected it all onto you, Jeffrey. Thank you.

That's cool. That's what humans do. Master projectors. And you know what? It's good reminder for me too, to stay off that thing and choose when to use it. Instead of it running me, I can run my iPhone or my own iPhone can run me. Just like money can run us or we can own money or money can own us. That's a lot about this technology. Technology can own us or we can own it. And we need to go back to owning technology, not it owning us. And that's the next evolution of human beings.

I'll tell you what, I'm coming out there, man. I'm coming to get the Byron Bay. What are those wraps called again?

Oh, there's so many wraps. They have veggie wraps and everything.

It's really healthy town. I love Byron Bay. Tremendous. So learn more about Jeffrey Slater. Jeffrieslater.com yeah, it has a Y in it.

It's got this Y in it. S L A Y T E R.

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Yeah, all good. It's great to meet you guys and thank you for everyone listening. It's been fun.

This is great. Thank you. I have tons of gratitude for you coming on. The only way we're going to get quality of guests like a Jeffrey Slater is if you do me a favor. Subscribe, rate and review the podcast. Jeffrey Slater, thanks again and we'll see everybody next time.

See ya.

Oh, wait, Scott. Are we gonna do let freedom ring next time? It's so awkward now. I don't even think we should do it anymore. It's over. Kill it.

We're killing.